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SammyWestI'm curious, can you actually program on ubuntu touch? or do you have to use a external ide?04:33
Stanley00SammyWest: what kind of program?04:33
SammyWestpython, c, c++, c#, assembly? things like that04:34
Stanley00SammyWest: the default ubuntu touch image doesn't have any compiler...04:34
Stanley00SammyWest: but, you can code with python and bash04:34
SammyWestok sweet, does it have a built in make script?04:35
SammyWestfor open source stuff?04:35
Stanley00SammyWest: make script for all ubuntu touch? I'm not sure04:35
SammyWestyou know how regular linux distros have the make file for installing programs right?04:36
SammyWestdo they have that for ubuntu touch lol04:36
SammyWestor dpkg installer? or any other basic bash commands?04:36
Stanley00SammyWest: ah, I see04:37
Stanley00SammyWest: first, the system partition is read-only, so you can't do as much as with your pc04:37
SammyWestyeah i was dissapointed when i found that out when i first bought it, sense then been looking for ways to hack into the rom lol04:38
Stanley00there's apt installed, but you can't use it to install04:38
SammyWestyeah i noticed lately they haven't been working well with the ppa repositories and stuff04:38
Stanley00SammyWest: well, you can always remount /, but I will not recommend that :P04:38
SammyWestyeah thats true, i had to install linux on a uefi laptop i had cause i didn't want windows on it lol04:40
SammyWesti could probably hack it that way lol04:40
Stanley00SammyWest: I personally prefer another chroot system on sdcard04:42
SammyWestsuch as a partition?04:42
Stanley00SammyWest: which is actually archarm, and I installed all my needed cli apps there04:42
Stanley00SammyWest: I just use a normal folder04:42
SammyWestahhh, wait is it a ntfs file system or journaling?04:43
SammyWestor does that really matter on arm04:43
Stanley00SammyWest: well, I think I missed something, the chroot is actually on my ~, not sdcard, sorry04:44
SammyWestand i think my os is directly on my rom, no sd card in my nexus04:45
Stanley00SammyWest: well, you know, you can always loop mount an ext4 rw image file04:47
SammyWestsweet, ill have to goof off with it, i can always access my books and stuff from the store anyway. I appriceate it! ill have something to do while im off work this week now lol04:48
SammyWestoh, one quick thing, any roms you might reccomend for programming directly on tablet? or would ubuntu touch allow for that?04:49
Stanley00SammyWest: I once compiled keyboard plugin for my ubuntu touch within my chrooted ubuntu image on the phone, but it's bad for the phone, I should have used cross compile on my pc instead04:51
SammyWestahh so you'll still need the external ide?04:52
Stanley00SammyWest: yeah, I can run cli app with chroot, not GUI, so no IDE there. You must use PC for IDE.04:53
SammyWestok i appriceate that!04:54
Stanley00but I heard that BQ M10 has something insteresting about running X apps, so maybe, you can run IDE in future.04:54
SammyWestnice, well i was wanting to program tkinter on android rather then the apk04:54
SammyWestwell mr stanley, thanks for the techno talk! needed to figure that out a bit. i gotta get to bed. have a good one!04:58
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kaisozhi06:57
Stanley00kaisoz: hi06:58
sebsebsebhi07:44
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FlohackMorning! Anyone here to help with Mir/EGL issues on a port?09:35
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duflusil2100: This should say "released", no?   https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+milestone/1310:00
dufluIt's apparently not marked as released yet10:00
sil2100Oh, possibly yes, let me do that10:01
sil2100Thanks for noticing! It's always Pat doing this cleanup10:01
duflusil2100: No worries. My work here is done.10:01
greybackFlohack: it's better to just ask your question, and if someone knows, they might chime in10:26
FlohackOk here is my question: is there a custom EGL config necessary for new devices? Found this in the compositor log, which I dont have right now: No egl config found or smth like this10:26
FlohackAlso, inches for the display and size are 0. Resolution is detected correctly.10:27
FlohackSee screenshot in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-x/help/ubuntu-touch-hox-experiment-device-t345746110:28
greybackFlohack: egl configs are coded into the egl implementation, you don't set them yourself. That message usually means setting up the egl context has gone wrong10:29
FlohackYes Im afraid this is true. Any way to debug this?10:30
greybackFlohack: maybe grab https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris/blob/master/hybris/tests/test_egl.c and see how far it gets10:31
greybacklogcat may have errors that might be useful10:32
FlohackOki thanks. By the way, how is the spinner being displayed? is this via framebuffer or smth like that10:32
greybackframebuffer10:32
FlohackOki clear. But already this graphics is damaged10:32
FlohackLogcat is here: http://pastebin.com/RCcBULBy10:32
greybackdamaged how?10:33
FlohackLook at screenshot in XDA thread ;)10:33
Flohacksee above10:33
greybackFlohack: well I see a bunch of "E/libEGL  (    0): validate_display:262 error 3008 (EGL_BAD_DISPLAY)" errors in the log, definitely something to investigate10:36
Flohackgreyback: I checked with another device, this seems to be perfectly normal during startup10:36
FlohackThis is lightdm log: http://pastebin.com/w9iF8bFU10:37
greybackFlohack: with my experience of gl, if something is wrong, first place to look is gl errors10:37
FlohackFirst I want to know why I get broken spinner graphics. Seems to not use the framebuffer in the right way or idk...10:37
greybackFlohack: unity-system-compostor is not a good thing to debug. Stop it, and try using mir-demo-shell and some simple clients to check rendering10:38
greybackthey'll be more verbose if things are wrong too10:39
greyback(install mir-demos)10:39
FlohackIs there any documentation on this? Im at work and can only try in the evening10:39
greybackI agree the framebuffer looks misconfigured somehow10:39
Flohacke.g. the compositor is called by lightdm scripts? Where to comment/replace it? Im fine with upstart scripts, but I can´t twist my head around this bringup of the GUI...10:40
greybackFlohack: pretty basic: http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/using_mir_on_android.html10:40
greybackFlohack: correct, lightdm brings up USC. "sudo initctl stop lightdm" <- should stop it for you10:41
FlohackOki and mir demo shell can then take over (or not)10:41
greybackyeah10:42
greybackthere are tests in the mir-android-diagnostics package which are good to run too10:43
Flohackgood. will try to do this. Besides I also dont have network now... Should the wifi interface be visible immediately after boot?10:44
FlohackOr more precisly how is Ubuntu handling the Android wifi drivers10:44
greybackFlohack: no idea about the wifi, sorry. I assume wifi operates through usual kernel interface, so usual tools should work (iwconfig, networkmanager, etc)10:54
FlohackOki thanks. Dont have it in the list, however kernel is dealing with it: [    4.072102] endeavor_wifi_power: Powering off wifi10:56
FlohackSo it seems to be disabled maybe, and need to be switche don again?10:56
FlohackIs there a cmdline that controls the WiFi radio being on or off, or how is that communicated from the GUI to the kernel10:59
greybackFlohack: "rfkill" can enable/disable wireless, use "nmcli" for more advanced wifi stff11:05
Flohack[   13.381118] rfkill: input handler disabled11:07
Flohackhmmm :)11:07
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la_juyis_hi! anyone has tried using an otg cable to both use a pendrive *and* charge at the same time?13:18
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dobeyla_juyis_: is there an otg cable that can do that?13:50
jgdxLaney, hey, what do you mean by “disruptive” in https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1631997/+merge/308065 ?14:01
Laneyjgdx: release is in two days14:01
jgdxLaney, but if yakkety is yakkety overlay, then we're good?14:02
jgdx(in bileto)14:03
LaneyThat's out of my remit :P14:03
pmcgowandont we need this for the yaketty unity8 session at release?14:03
pmcgowanor ok to sru?14:03
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kaisozhi there14:13
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FlohackHi14:17
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Laneypmcgowan: it's in the release already14:33
Laneytrunk needs to be synced back up14:33
pmcgowanack14:35
la_juyis_dobey: apparently there's a double ended cable, with a female and a male usb connector15:02
dobeyla_juyis_: i guess it might work. better would be a cable that had both a female micro-usb as pass-through, and a female usb-a or usb-c for the otg15:05
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om26eroSoMoN: around ?16:21
oSoMoNom26er, not for much longer, but yes :)16:21
om26eroSoMoN: my browser got no sound in unity8 desktop session, help ?16:21
om26erits been like that for a few months, reinstall didnt help16:22
oSoMoNom26er, do you get sound in unity7 ?16:22
om26eroSoMoN: yes, i do16:22
oSoMoNom26er, can you check app logs and apparmor denials?16:22
om26eroSoMoN: wait actually no16:23
oSoMoNno sound in unity7 either?16:23
om26eroSoMoN: there is no sound in unity7 as well16:23
oSoMoNom26er, and I assume other browsers (including chromium) do have sound16:23
om26eroSoMoN: yes chromium works fine so does firefox in unity716:24
om26eroSoMoN: want me to show any logs ?16:24
oSoMoNom26er, please file a bug report and attach app logs and any relevant apparmor denials from syslog16:25
oSoMoNhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+filebug16:25
om26eroSoMoN: will do, quickly if this rings any bell16:26
om26eraudit: type=1400 audit(1476203137.626:287): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="webbrowser-app" name="/dev/shm/lttng-ust-wait-6-1000" pid=11539 comm="QQmlThread" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=100016:26
oSoMoNthat one should be harmless16:26
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flohackHi again17:50
flohackso I am searching my WiFi interface... ifconfig doesnt see it, rfkill doesnt see any switch...17:50
dobeyflohack: maybe you are missing the driver, or the binary blob isn't being loaded for some reason?18:00
flohackno the android container is fine it seems... hmm18:01
flohacklsmod gives18:03
flohackmac80211              419397  1 wl12xx18:03
flohackst_drv                 23308  4 fm_drv,gps_drv,btwilink,hci_if_drv18:03
flohackcfg80211              175220  2 mac80211,wl12xx18:03
flohackwl12xx is also loaded ;)18:04
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