=== _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem [04:33] I'm curious, can you actually program on ubuntu touch? or do you have to use a external ide? [04:33] SammyWest: what kind of program? [04:34] python, c, c++, c#, assembly? things like that [04:34] SammyWest: the default ubuntu touch image doesn't have any compiler... [04:34] SammyWest: but, you can code with python and bash [04:35] ok sweet, does it have a built in make script? [04:35] for open source stuff? [04:35] SammyWest: make script for all ubuntu touch? I'm not sure [04:36] you know how regular linux distros have the make file for installing programs right? [04:36] do they have that for ubuntu touch lol [04:36] or dpkg installer? or any other basic bash commands? [04:37] SammyWest: ah, I see [04:37] SammyWest: first, the system partition is read-only, so you can't do as much as with your pc [04:38] yeah i was dissapointed when i found that out when i first bought it, sense then been looking for ways to hack into the rom lol [04:38] there's apt installed, but you can't use it to install [04:38] yeah i noticed lately they haven't been working well with the ppa repositories and stuff [04:38] SammyWest: well, you can always remount /, but I will not recommend that :P [04:40] yeah thats true, i had to install linux on a uefi laptop i had cause i didn't want windows on it lol [04:40] i could probably hack it that way lol [04:42] SammyWest: I personally prefer another chroot system on sdcard [04:42] such as a partition? [04:42] SammyWest: which is actually archarm, and I installed all my needed cli apps there [04:42] SammyWest: I just use a normal folder [04:43] ahhh, wait is it a ntfs file system or journaling? [04:43] or does that really matter on arm [04:44] SammyWest: well, I think I missed something, the chroot is actually on my ~, not sdcard, sorry [04:45] and i think my os is directly on my rom, no sd card in my nexus [04:47] SammyWest: well, you know, you can always loop mount an ext4 rw image file [04:48] sweet, ill have to goof off with it, i can always access my books and stuff from the store anyway. I appriceate it! ill have something to do while im off work this week now lol [04:49] oh, one quick thing, any roms you might reccomend for programming directly on tablet? or would ubuntu touch allow for that? [04:51] SammyWest: I once compiled keyboard plugin for my ubuntu touch within my chrooted ubuntu image on the phone, but it's bad for the phone, I should have used cross compile on my pc instead [04:52] ahh so you'll still need the external ide? [04:53] SammyWest: yeah, I can run cli app with chroot, not GUI, so no IDE there. You must use PC for IDE. [04:54] ok i appriceate that! [04:54] but I heard that BQ M10 has something insteresting about running X apps, so maybe, you can run IDE in future. [04:54] nice, well i was wanting to program tkinter on android rather then the apk [04:58] well mr stanley, thanks for the techno talk! needed to figure that out a bit. i gotta get to bed. have a good one! === Tims_Tech_ is now known as Tims_Tech [06:57] hi [06:58] kaisoz: hi [07:44] hi === sdk_ is now known as sdk === steev is now known as Guest70458 === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson [09:35] Morning! Anyone here to help with Mir/EGL issues on a port? === kaisoz_ is now known as kaisoz === galeido_ is now known as galeido [10:00] sil2100: This should say "released", no? https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+milestone/13 [10:00] It's apparently not marked as released yet [10:01] Oh, possibly yes, let me do that [10:01] Thanks for noticing! It's always Pat doing this cleanup [10:01] sil2100: No worries. My work here is done. [10:26] Flohack: it's better to just ask your question, and if someone knows, they might chime in [10:26] Ok here is my question: is there a custom EGL config necessary for new devices? Found this in the compositor log, which I dont have right now: No egl config found or smth like this [10:27] Also, inches for the display and size are 0. Resolution is detected correctly. [10:28] See screenshot in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-x/help/ubuntu-touch-hox-experiment-device-t3457461 [10:29] Flohack: egl configs are coded into the egl implementation, you don't set them yourself. That message usually means setting up the egl context has gone wrong [10:30] Yes Im afraid this is true. Any way to debug this? [10:31] Flohack: maybe grab https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris/blob/master/hybris/tests/test_egl.c and see how far it gets [10:32] logcat may have errors that might be useful [10:32] Oki thanks. By the way, how is the spinner being displayed? is this via framebuffer or smth like that [10:32] framebuffer [10:32] Oki clear. But already this graphics is damaged [10:32] Logcat is here: http://pastebin.com/RCcBULBy [10:33] damaged how? [10:33] Look at screenshot in XDA thread ;) [10:33] see above [10:36] Flohack: well I see a bunch of "E/libEGL ( 0): validate_display:262 error 3008 (EGL_BAD_DISPLAY)" errors in the log, definitely something to investigate [10:36] greyback: I checked with another device, this seems to be perfectly normal during startup [10:37] This is lightdm log: http://pastebin.com/w9iF8bFU [10:37] Flohack: with my experience of gl, if something is wrong, first place to look is gl errors [10:37] First I want to know why I get broken spinner graphics. Seems to not use the framebuffer in the right way or idk... [10:38] Flohack: unity-system-compostor is not a good thing to debug. Stop it, and try using mir-demo-shell and some simple clients to check rendering [10:39] they'll be more verbose if things are wrong too [10:39] (install mir-demos) [10:39] Is there any documentation on this? Im at work and can only try in the evening [10:39] I agree the framebuffer looks misconfigured somehow [10:40] e.g. the compositor is called by lightdm scripts? Where to comment/replace it? Im fine with upstart scripts, but I can´t twist my head around this bringup of the GUI... [10:40] Flohack: pretty basic: http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/using_mir_on_android.html [10:41] Flohack: correct, lightdm brings up USC. "sudo initctl stop lightdm" <- should stop it for you [10:41] Oki and mir demo shell can then take over (or not) [10:42] yeah [10:43] there are tests in the mir-android-diagnostics package which are good to run too [10:44] good. will try to do this. Besides I also dont have network now... Should the wifi interface be visible immediately after boot? [10:44] Or more precisly how is Ubuntu handling the Android wifi drivers [10:54] Flohack: no idea about the wifi, sorry. I assume wifi operates through usual kernel interface, so usual tools should work (iwconfig, networkmanager, etc) [10:56] Oki thanks. Dont have it in the list, however kernel is dealing with it: [ 4.072102] endeavor_wifi_power: Powering off wifi [10:56] So it seems to be disabled maybe, and need to be switche don again? [10:59] Is there a cmdline that controls the WiFi radio being on or off, or how is that communicated from the GUI to the kernel [11:05] Flohack: "rfkill" can enable/disable wireless, use "nmcli" for more advanced wifi stff [11:07] [ 13.381118] rfkill: input handler disabled [11:07] hmmm :) === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:18] hi! anyone has tried using an otg cable to both use a pendrive *and* charge at the same time? === barry` is now known as barry [13:50] la_juyis_: is there an otg cable that can do that? [14:01] Laney, hey, what do you mean by “disruptive” in https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1631997/+merge/308065 ? [14:01] jgdx: release is in two days [14:02] Laney, but if yakkety is yakkety overlay, then we're good? [14:03] (in bileto) [14:03] That's out of my remit :P [14:03] dont we need this for the yaketty unity8 session at release? [14:03] or ok to sru? === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [14:13] hi there === dandrader_ is now known as dandrader [14:17] Hi === Tims_Tech_ is now known as Tims_Tech [14:33] pmcgowan: it's in the release already [14:33] trunk needs to be synced back up [14:35] ack [15:02] dobey: apparently there's a double ended cable, with a female and a male usb connector [15:05] la_juyis_: i guess it might work. better would be a cable that had both a female micro-usb as pass-through, and a female usb-a or usb-c for the otg === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [16:21] oSoMoN: around ? [16:21] om26er, not for much longer, but yes :) [16:21] oSoMoN: my browser got no sound in unity8 desktop session, help ? [16:22] its been like that for a few months, reinstall didnt help [16:22] om26er, do you get sound in unity7 ? [16:22] oSoMoN: yes, i do [16:22] om26er, can you check app logs and apparmor denials? [16:23] oSoMoN: wait actually no [16:23] no sound in unity7 either? [16:23] oSoMoN: there is no sound in unity7 as well [16:23] om26er, and I assume other browsers (including chromium) do have sound [16:24] oSoMoN: yes chromium works fine so does firefox in unity7 [16:24] oSoMoN: want me to show any logs ? [16:25] om26er, please file a bug report and attach app logs and any relevant apparmor denials from syslog [16:25] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+filebug [16:26] oSoMoN: will do, quickly if this rings any bell [16:26] audit: type=1400 audit(1476203137.626:287): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="webbrowser-app" name="/dev/shm/lttng-ust-wait-6-1000" pid=11539 comm="QQmlThread" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000 [16:26] that one should be harmless === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === Mikaela is now known as Mikaela_ === Mikaela_ is now known as Mikaela === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [17:50] Hi again [17:50] so I am searching my WiFi interface... ifconfig doesnt see it, rfkill doesnt see any switch... [18:00] flohack: maybe you are missing the driver, or the binary blob isn't being loaded for some reason? [18:01] no the android container is fine it seems... hmm [18:03] lsmod gives [18:03] mac80211 419397 1 wl12xx [18:03] st_drv 23308 4 fm_drv,gps_drv,btwilink,hci_if_drv [18:03] cfg80211 175220 2 mac80211,wl12xx [18:04] wl12xx is also loaded ;) === steev_ is now known as steev === salem_ is now known as _salem