[04:33] <SammyWest> I'm curious, can you actually program on ubuntu touch? or do you have to use a external ide?
[04:33] <Stanley00> SammyWest: what kind of program?
[04:34] <SammyWest> python, c, c++, c#, assembly? things like that
[04:34] <Stanley00> SammyWest: the default ubuntu touch image doesn't have any compiler...
[04:34] <Stanley00> SammyWest: but, you can code with python and bash
[04:35] <SammyWest> ok sweet, does it have a built in make script?
[04:35] <SammyWest> for open source stuff?
[04:35] <Stanley00> SammyWest: make script for all ubuntu touch? I'm not sure
[04:36] <SammyWest> you know how regular linux distros have the make file for installing programs right?
[04:36] <SammyWest> do they have that for ubuntu touch lol
[04:36] <SammyWest> or dpkg installer? or any other basic bash commands?
[04:37] <Stanley00> SammyWest: ah, I see
[04:37] <Stanley00> SammyWest: first, the system partition is read-only, so you can't do as much as with your pc
[04:38] <SammyWest> yeah i was dissapointed when i found that out when i first bought it, sense then been looking for ways to hack into the rom lol
[04:38] <Stanley00> there's apt installed, but you can't use it to install
[04:38] <SammyWest> yeah i noticed lately they haven't been working well with the ppa repositories and stuff
[04:38] <Stanley00> SammyWest: well, you can always remount /, but I will not recommend that :P
[04:40] <SammyWest> yeah thats true, i had to install linux on a uefi laptop i had cause i didn't want windows on it lol
[04:40] <SammyWest> i could probably hack it that way lol
[04:42] <Stanley00> SammyWest: I personally prefer another chroot system on sdcard
[04:42] <SammyWest> such as a partition?
[04:42] <Stanley00> SammyWest: which is actually archarm, and I installed all my needed cli apps there
[04:42] <Stanley00> SammyWest: I just use a normal folder
[04:43] <SammyWest> ahhh, wait is it a ntfs file system or journaling?
[04:43] <SammyWest> or does that really matter on arm
[04:44] <Stanley00> SammyWest: well, I think I missed something, the chroot is actually on my ~, not sdcard, sorry
[04:45] <SammyWest> and i think my os is directly on my rom, no sd card in my nexus
[04:47] <Stanley00> SammyWest: well, you know, you can always loop mount an ext4 rw image file
[04:48] <SammyWest> sweet, ill have to goof off with it, i can always access my books and stuff from the store anyway. I appriceate it! ill have something to do while im off work this week now lol
[04:49] <SammyWest> oh, one quick thing, any roms you might reccomend for programming directly on tablet? or would ubuntu touch allow for that?
[04:51] <Stanley00> SammyWest: I once compiled keyboard plugin for my ubuntu touch within my chrooted ubuntu image on the phone, but it's bad for the phone, I should have used cross compile on my pc instead
[04:52] <SammyWest> ahh so you'll still need the external ide?
[04:53] <Stanley00> SammyWest: yeah, I can run cli app with chroot, not GUI, so no IDE there. You must use PC for IDE.
[04:54] <SammyWest> ok i appriceate that!
[04:54] <Stanley00> but I heard that BQ M10 has something insteresting about running X apps, so maybe, you can run IDE in future.
[04:54] <SammyWest> nice, well i was wanting to program tkinter on android rather then the apk
[04:58] <SammyWest> well mr stanley, thanks for the techno talk! needed to figure that out a bit. i gotta get to bed. have a good one!
[06:57] <kaisoz> hi
[06:58] <Stanley00> kaisoz: hi
[07:44] <sebsebseb> hi
[09:35] <Flohack> Morning! Anyone here to help with Mir/EGL issues on a port?
[10:00] <duflu> sil2100: This should say "released", no?   https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+milestone/13
[10:00] <duflu> It's apparently not marked as released yet
[10:01] <sil2100> Oh, possibly yes, let me do that
[10:01] <sil2100> Thanks for noticing! It's always Pat doing this cleanup
[10:01] <duflu> sil2100: No worries. My work here is done.
[10:26] <greyback> Flohack: it's better to just ask your question, and if someone knows, they might chime in
[10:26] <Flohack> Ok here is my question: is there a custom EGL config necessary for new devices? Found this in the compositor log, which I dont have right now: No egl config found or smth like this
[10:27] <Flohack> Also, inches for the display and size are 0. Resolution is detected correctly.
[10:28] <Flohack> See screenshot in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-x/help/ubuntu-touch-hox-experiment-device-t3457461
[10:29] <greyback> Flohack: egl configs are coded into the egl implementation, you don't set them yourself. That message usually means setting up the egl context has gone wrong
[10:30] <Flohack> Yes Im afraid this is true. Any way to debug this?
[10:31] <greyback> Flohack: maybe grab https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris/blob/master/hybris/tests/test_egl.c and see how far it gets
[10:32] <greyback> logcat may have errors that might be useful
[10:32] <Flohack> Oki thanks. By the way, how is the spinner being displayed? is this via framebuffer or smth like that
[10:32] <greyback> framebuffer
[10:32] <Flohack> Oki clear. But already this graphics is damaged
[10:32] <Flohack> Logcat is here: http://pastebin.com/RCcBULBy
[10:33] <greyback> damaged how?
[10:33] <Flohack> Look at screenshot in XDA thread ;)
[10:33] <Flohack> see above
[10:36] <greyback> Flohack: well I see a bunch of "E/libEGL  (    0): validate_display:262 error 3008 (EGL_BAD_DISPLAY)" errors in the log, definitely something to investigate
[10:36] <Flohack> greyback: I checked with another device, this seems to be perfectly normal during startup
[10:37] <Flohack> This is lightdm log: http://pastebin.com/w9iF8bFU
[10:37] <greyback> Flohack: with my experience of gl, if something is wrong, first place to look is gl errors
[10:37] <Flohack> First I want to know why I get broken spinner graphics. Seems to not use the framebuffer in the right way or idk...
[10:38] <greyback> Flohack: unity-system-compostor is not a good thing to debug. Stop it, and try using mir-demo-shell and some simple clients to check rendering
[10:39] <greyback> they'll be more verbose if things are wrong too
[10:39] <greyback> (install mir-demos)
[10:39] <Flohack> Is there any documentation on this? Im at work and can only try in the evening
[10:39] <greyback> I agree the framebuffer looks misconfigured somehow
[10:40] <Flohack> e.g. the compositor is called by lightdm scripts? Where to comment/replace it? Im fine with upstart scripts, but I can´t twist my head around this bringup of the GUI...
[10:40] <greyback> Flohack: pretty basic: http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/using_mir_on_android.html
[10:41] <greyback> Flohack: correct, lightdm brings up USC. "sudo initctl stop lightdm" <- should stop it for you
[10:41] <Flohack> Oki and mir demo shell can then take over (or not)
[10:42] <greyback> yeah
[10:43] <greyback> there are tests in the mir-android-diagnostics package which are good to run too
[10:44] <Flohack> good. will try to do this. Besides I also dont have network now... Should the wifi interface be visible immediately after boot?
[10:44] <Flohack> Or more precisly how is Ubuntu handling the Android wifi drivers
[10:54] <greyback> Flohack: no idea about the wifi, sorry. I assume wifi operates through usual kernel interface, so usual tools should work (iwconfig, networkmanager, etc)
[10:56] <Flohack> Oki thanks. Dont have it in the list, however kernel is dealing with it: [    4.072102] endeavor_wifi_power: Powering off wifi
[10:56] <Flohack> So it seems to be disabled maybe, and need to be switche don again?
[10:59] <Flohack> Is there a cmdline that controls the WiFi radio being on or off, or how is that communicated from the GUI to the kernel
[11:05] <greyback> Flohack: "rfkill" can enable/disable wireless, use "nmcli" for more advanced wifi stff
[11:07] <Flohack> [   13.381118] rfkill: input handler disabled
[11:07] <Flohack> hmmm :)
[13:18] <la_juyis_> hi! anyone has tried using an otg cable to both use a pendrive *and* charge at the same time?
[13:50] <dobey> la_juyis_: is there an otg cable that can do that?
[14:01] <jgdx> Laney, hey, what do you mean by “disruptive” in https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1631997/+merge/308065 ?
[14:01] <Laney> jgdx: release is in two days
[14:02] <jgdx> Laney, but if yakkety is yakkety overlay, then we're good?
[14:03] <jgdx> (in bileto)
[14:03] <Laney> That's out of my remit :P
[14:03] <pmcgowan> dont we need this for the yaketty unity8 session at release?
[14:03] <pmcgowan> or ok to sru?
[14:13] <kaisoz> hi there
[14:17] <Flohack> Hi
[14:33] <Laney> pmcgowan: it's in the release already
[14:33] <Laney> trunk needs to be synced back up
[14:35] <pmcgowan> ack
[15:02] <la_juyis_> dobey: apparently there's a double ended cable, with a female and a male usb connector
[15:05] <dobey> la_juyis_: i guess it might work. better would be a cable that had both a female micro-usb as pass-through, and a female usb-a or usb-c for the otg
[16:21] <om26er> oSoMoN: around ?
[16:21] <oSoMoN> om26er, not for much longer, but yes :)
[16:21] <om26er> oSoMoN: my browser got no sound in unity8 desktop session, help ?
[16:22] <om26er> its been like that for a few months, reinstall didnt help
[16:22] <oSoMoN> om26er, do you get sound in unity7 ?
[16:22] <om26er> oSoMoN: yes, i do
[16:22] <oSoMoN> om26er, can you check app logs and apparmor denials?
[16:23] <om26er> oSoMoN: wait actually no
[16:23] <oSoMoN> no sound in unity7 either?
[16:23] <om26er> oSoMoN: there is no sound in unity7 as well
[16:23] <oSoMoN> om26er, and I assume other browsers (including chromium) do have sound
[16:24] <om26er> oSoMoN: yes chromium works fine so does firefox in unity7
[16:24] <om26er> oSoMoN: want me to show any logs ?
[16:25] <oSoMoN> om26er, please file a bug report and attach app logs and any relevant apparmor denials from syslog
[16:25] <oSoMoN> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+filebug
[16:26] <om26er> oSoMoN: will do, quickly if this rings any bell
[16:26] <om26er> audit: type=1400 audit(1476203137.626:287): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="webbrowser-app" name="/dev/shm/lttng-ust-wait-6-1000" pid=11539 comm="QQmlThread" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
[16:26] <oSoMoN> that one should be harmless
[17:50] <flohack> Hi again
[17:50] <flohack> so I am searching my WiFi interface... ifconfig doesnt see it, rfkill doesnt see any switch...
[18:00] <dobey> flohack: maybe you are missing the driver, or the binary blob isn't being loaded for some reason?
[18:01] <flohack> no the android container is fine it seems... hmm
[18:03] <flohack> lsmod gives
[18:03] <flohack> mac80211              419397  1 wl12xx
[18:03] <flohack> st_drv                 23308  4 fm_drv,gps_drv,btwilink,hci_if_drv
[18:03] <flohack> cfg80211              175220  2 mac80211,wl12xx
[18:04] <flohack> wl12xx is also loaded ;)