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zmoylan-pinever saw captain kirk as a quitter...00:51
* diddledan messing with juju05:26
diddledanand maas05:26
diddledantis funkynuts05:26
knightwi1emorning diddledan05:31
knightwi1ehow are you05:31
diddledanmornin05:32
diddledansleepy :-p05:32
diddledanotherwise I'm good05:32
knightwi1esame here"06:07
knightwi1elong day today06:07
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diddledanalso, in addition to juju and maas, ipmi on servers is awesome07:20
sebsebsebmorning anyone about?07:42
dwatkinsallo allo07:54
SuperMattSome mothers do 'ave em07:55
foobarryhi de hi07:55
SuperMattyes, minister07:56
foobarrygoodnight sweetheart07:56
SuperMattthe good life07:56
foobarrydid anyone see that one off goodnight sweetheart they recently made?07:58
foobarryit was actually watchable. so is the current red dwarf series07:58
SuperMattdammit man, you were supposed to say something else, and then I was going to say mornington crescent and win07:58
diploMorning all08:01
davmor2Morning all08:06
sebsebsebdavmor2: hi08:06
sebsebsebdavmor2: so Facebook adveritisng for my event sot of working, but....08:06
sebsebsebsort above08:06
Gargoylemornin'08:06
knightwiseBeen watching Westworld08:11
knightwisepretty pleased with the first two episodes08:12
TwistedLucidityIs it better than the movie?08:13
knightwiseIts a little "deeper"08:13
knightwisealthough I LOVED the movie :)08:13
knightwiseScared the crap out of me as a kid08:13
* knightwise still thinks about the scenes in the long tunnels08:13
davmor2sebsebseb: was there meant to be something after the but...08:15
foobarrythe movie was a bit pervy in the same way star trek is just a bunch of horny teenagers08:16
foobarrytaps into fantasies about a saloon bar whorehouse08:16
sebsebsebdavmor2: well yeah :d08:16
sebsebsebdavmor2: so it's Linux and Creative Commons event08:17
sebsebsebdavmor2: but...08:17
sebsebsebbut for some reson the Facebook adveritsing is  mostly targetting woemn, altough in the right kind of age range at least,  like 25 to 33, but guess what that means?08:17
TwistedLucidityYou will have lots of female attendees?08:18
sebsebsebTwistedLucidity: heh that would be nice actually I guess08:18
sebsebseb,but  yeah your close08:18
sebsebsebloads well only like four so far it seems, but may bring in more08:18
sebsebsebTwistedLucidity:  the  more correct answer is going to get artists and such hmm08:19
davmor2sebsebseb: if it has a facebook page just let popey know about it and then most of the UK will know about it ;)08:19
TwistedLucidityWhich fits nicely with CC stuff08:19
sebsebsebso looks  lilke really going to have to try   harder to make this Creative Commons aspect good08:19
sebsebsebthat takes time and work~!08:19
sebsebsebuhmm  was doing to look for more "suitable" music now, but got  distracted by the mostly unsuitable Severed Fifth h eh08:19
TwistedLucidityAlthough there is a slight irony in promoting [GNU/]Linux and Creative Commons over Facebook.08:19
sebsebsebdavmor2: a Creative Commons uk page you mean or ?08:20
sebsebsebTwistedLucidity:  what's the irony? and just one of the attemped ways to try and get some more people in08:20
sebsebsebbut got to go through a few hundred or so each time, not interested people,  before getting the few that are, it seems,  on Facebook that is08:21
TwistedLuciditysebsebseb: Promoting freedom over a closed platform is what I meant. I know why you're doing it, it just amuses me slightly is all.08:21
davmor2sebsebseb: no I mean if there is a page or facebook page that advertises the event let popey know it08:21
sebsebsebat least the cost is still low, but I wonder by next week, if my budget of 30 pounds ( which I might up a bit with reason ), will be all spent08:21
sebsebsebfor the Facebook  marketitng08:21
sebsebsebTwistedLucidity: well it's aimed at general public,  they use Facebook!08:22
TwistedLucidityThat's because they don't know any better! :-P08:22
sebsebsebTwistedLucidity: not using Twitter for this, uh to that, one is enough like this for  this one.08:22
* sebsebseb doesn't like Facebook or Twitter08:22
TwistedLucidityI wonder how GNUSocial is going these days? I really meant to set that up and well....life08:23
sebsebsebhttp://identi.ca was good,  but then the community split in half.  those who wanted to carry on on pump,io and those who wanted to continue with the old status.net on another site08:23
sebsebsebTwistedLucidity: yeah I used to use identica  quite a bit for a while at one stage08:23
sebsebsebbut well that's differnet, and that was nice, and yeah08:23
sebsebsebTwistedLucidity: actsaully I got ot meet the guy who started identi.ca at FOSDEM one year as well :)08:23
sebsebsebwhich year I don't remember exactly, I been five years now. uhmm I guess it was 2013 or something08:24
sebsebsebTwistedLucidity: indeed promoting freedom, bingo exacly what it is, but software, and creative commons multimead stuff to08:25
sebsebsebloads of artists music peopel etc, won't een know about CC yet08:25
TwistedLucidityMatt Lee come to our LUG to give a talk. We couldn't get enough folks together (very small LUG) so we had beers instead \o/08:25
TwistedLucidity(Matt Lee of GNU Social fame)08:25
sebsebsebTwistedLucidity: which LUG is that, also I have mett Matt Lee :)08:25
sebsebsebin 201408:25
sebsebsebsince I decided to go on a special visit, to attend one of his talks etc08:26
sebsebsebthat was happening a train ride away, longish one08:26
sebsebsebTwistedLucidity: would be nice if these more open sites,  federated sites and what not08:27
sebsebsebwere all more popular08:27
sebsebsebbut nope08:27
sebsebsebnot with the society we have etc08:27
sebsebsebTwistedLucidity: companies really dominate things08:27
sebsebsebmoney this money that, oh and brexit will be something to h eh08:27
TwistedLucidityIt's hard for a non-techy to do though. And you have to worry about redundancy, back-ups etc.08:27
TwistedLuciditySecurity....08:27
TwistedLucidityTricky stuff08:27
sebsebsebapparnatly petrol will go  up five pencce a litter soon since that to etc  etc08:27
sebsebsebTwistedLucidity: a non techy to do what?08:28
sebsebsebhard for08:28
TwistedLucidityInstall, say, GNUSocial, ensure it is secure and so on08:28
sebsebsebTwistedLucidity: yeah I guess, but there are quite a few sites out there, using that08:28
sebsebsebI think08:28
sebsebsebor well for status.net  there still are08:28
TwistedLucidityI'm still not convinced my ownCloud install is safe to use. :-S08:29
JonTheNiceGuy[m]TwistedLucidity: have you seen sandstorm.io yet?08:29
TwistedLucidityJonTheNiceGuy[m]: Uh, nope. That's a new one.08:29
sebsebsebTwistedLucidity: so what are the details for that, so someone can get in easier :D08:29
JonTheNiceGuy[m]It's a very secure, self hosting platform08:30
sebsebsebJonTheNiceGuy[m]: aww going to have to look at sosme other music sources to08:30
TwistedLuciditysebsebseb: Hire someone who know's what they are doing, just as you would a plumber. :-D08:30
sebsebsebJonTheNiceGuy[m]: shame about the lack of a serach feature and by genre as well08:30
sebsebsebTwistedLucidity: so is that what I Want, more female attendes in 20's to early 30's :D08:31
sebsebsebTwistedLucidity: trying to promote tech to a not that interested woman, can be differnet, to a not that interested man08:32
TwistedLucidityJonTheNiceGuy[m]: Sandstorm looks neat, maybe even more overkill for my needs than ownCloud is TBH. Still...might give it a punt at some point for giggles. I know folks who might have a use for it08:33
TwistedLuciditysebsebseb: Is it? I've little (well, no) marketing experience.08:34
sebsebsebTwistedLucidity: can be08:35
TwistedLucidityI guess there can be a cultural slant to things.08:35
sebsebsebhmm maybe ths song can be used , not that keen on  it, but it's not that bad I guess08:36
TwistedLucidityRight...supoort calls...who hasn't read the blasted instructions today? :-|08:37
GargoyleTwistedLucidity, Maybe you should have a look at https://github.com/facebook. The product might be closed, but Facebook as a company has done a lot more than others for open-source development of large scale web apps.09:08
TwistedLucidityGargoyle: I am aware. I still won't use Facebook.09:08
GargoyleFair enough, I don't use it either (other than for development).09:09
GargoyleThere's no irony to using it to promote a Linux event though.09:10
foobarryis there a way to show nicklist in irssi only for certain chans?09:11
foobarryits super useful for small chans , sucks for biggues09:11
JamesTaitGood morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Ada Lovelace Day! 😃09:13
brobostigonmorning boys and girls09:27
foobarrynot sure i like these skullcandy headphones09:28
foobarrythe EQ seems odd.09:28
foobarrynot flat09:28
davmor2JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSfBmlXlqio cheeky one it's from ada lovelace the musical :)09:47
davmor2JamesTait: and yes I had to look that one up :) I didn't want to spilt it between songs like last time :)09:50
danielmxhi on ubuntu 16.04.1 adding a network printer. i click find printer with the associated ip address. it finds the printer but keeps repeating the ip address until the printing software ceases10:52
danielmxcan anyone point me in the right direction10:53
davmor2danielmx: what manufacturer is the printer by?10:55
danielmxHP10:56
danielmxadding printer work on another linux machine10:56
davmor2danielmx: hmm normally that works fine11:03
davmor2danielmx: you can try add the hp-lip app and access it via that11:04
danielmxseems to be fixed i was logged in as guest user11:08
danielmxlogged out and logged in as admin and was able to add printer and print test page11:09
danielmxdoes this mean any user that logs in as guest can now use printer11:09
danielmxor shall i test it to be sure11:09
davmor2ah yeah you would need to be an admin to enable it11:12
danielmxthanks for your help, very much appreciated11:16
GargoyleIs there something specific you have to do, or does gnome just not like to remember the position of app windows between runs?13:00
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daftykinsGargoyle: the old ctrl+click rule do nothing i take it? not that i know whether that was ever cross-platform or not15:58
Gargoyledaftykins, Nope.15:59
GargoyleMaybe it's just a Mac thing I had gotten used to.16:01
daftykinsguess you didn't have multiple screens there then, i've always heard and seen first hand how Macs can't handle multiple displays :)16:03
GargoyleSure do. The last few iterations of OSX have been MUCH improved in that regard.16:04
GargoyleSeparate exposé per screen, etc.16:05
daftykinscan't stand the OS myself - and the business practices of the company simply immoral16:05
daftykinsyay i gave android pay my first try today, having repaired my phone \o/ waitrose had some self service machines in which supported it :)16:05
Gargoyle4 years ago, I would have told anyone that it was the best desktop. Unix like sub-system with a well polished UI. But over the last few versions, they have crippled it from a hobbyist/techie perspective in favour of making it more of a consumer product.16:07
GargoyleWhich was the final push to make me switch to linux desktop! :-)16:08
daftykinshmm, i find it gives very little UI feedback in most operations as to anything going on - so for example adding accounts you have to sit and hope awaiting a result16:09
daftykinsbut the sale of outdated components in fixed configurations that are often not upgradable (or take a while to be reverse engineered) due to the Apple Way(TM) is just unforgivable for me :)16:10
Gargoyledaftykins, Yeah. But that's part of the consumer focus which Apple has always had to some degree. "It just works". None of this nonsense about only having the choice of 1 resolution option! ;-)16:15
daftykinsGargoyle: sounds like you're talking display res? did i misunderstand?16:15
GargoyleYeah I am. I have to run the nvidia tweak tool thing every login to change my screen res down a bit (MBP Retina).16:17
GargoyleI'm not that bothered though. After Christmas I'm going to build a dedicated desktop system. The laptop will become a tool for the 2 days a month I am in the office until it dies.16:18
GargoyleI'm sure with a bit more playing, I could get xrandr to play ball or something. Haven't really had the time to dig into it too much.16:20
daftykinsah i didn't mean to allude to that, but definitely the scaling settings are a joke versus manual control, and is an example of Apple dumbing things down too much16:20
Gargoyleyup16:20
GargoyleSpeaking of running out of time - must go and get a haircut before I forget what my ears look like!16:22
Gargoylelaters...16:22
daftykinsenjoy o/16:22
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