[00:51] never saw captain kirk as a quitter... [05:26] * diddledan messing with juju [05:26] and maas [05:26] tis funkynuts [05:31] morning diddledan [05:31] how are you [05:32] mornin [05:32] sleepy :-p [05:32] otherwise I'm good [06:07] same here" [06:07] long day today === knightwi1e is now known as knightwise [07:20] also, in addition to juju and maas, ipmi on servers is awesome [07:42] morning anyone about? [07:54] allo allo [07:55] Some mothers do 'ave em [07:55] hi de hi [07:56] yes, minister [07:56] goodnight sweetheart [07:56] the good life [07:58] did anyone see that one off goodnight sweetheart they recently made? [07:58] it was actually watchable. so is the current red dwarf series [07:58] dammit man, you were supposed to say something else, and then I was going to say mornington crescent and win [08:01] Morning all [08:06] Morning all [08:06] davmor2: hi [08:06] davmor2: so Facebook adveritisng for my event sot of working, but.... [08:06] sort above [08:06] mornin' [08:11] Been watching Westworld [08:12] pretty pleased with the first two episodes [08:13] Is it better than the movie? [08:13] Its a little "deeper" [08:13] although I LOVED the movie :) [08:13] Scared the crap out of me as a kid [08:13] * knightwise still thinks about the scenes in the long tunnels [08:15] sebsebseb: was there meant to be something after the but... [08:16] the movie was a bit pervy in the same way star trek is just a bunch of horny teenagers [08:16] taps into fantasies about a saloon bar whorehouse [08:16] davmor2: well yeah :d [08:17] davmor2: so it's Linux and Creative Commons event [08:17] davmor2: but... [08:17] but for some reson the Facebook adveritsing is mostly targetting woemn, altough in the right kind of age range at least, like 25 to 33, but guess what that means? [08:18] You will have lots of female attendees? [08:18] TwistedLucidity: heh that would be nice actually I guess [08:18] ,but yeah your close [08:18] loads well only like four so far it seems, but may bring in more [08:19] TwistedLucidity: the more correct answer is going to get artists and such hmm [08:19] sebsebseb: if it has a facebook page just let popey know about it and then most of the UK will know about it ;) [08:19] Which fits nicely with CC stuff [08:19] so looks lilke really going to have to try harder to make this Creative Commons aspect good [08:19] that takes time and work~! [08:19] uhmm was doing to look for more "suitable" music now, but got distracted by the mostly unsuitable Severed Fifth h eh [08:19] Although there is a slight irony in promoting [GNU/]Linux and Creative Commons over Facebook. [08:20] davmor2: a Creative Commons uk page you mean or ? [08:20] TwistedLucidity: what's the irony? and just one of the attemped ways to try and get some more people in [08:21] but got to go through a few hundred or so each time, not interested people, before getting the few that are, it seems, on Facebook that is [08:21] sebsebseb: Promoting freedom over a closed platform is what I meant. I know why you're doing it, it just amuses me slightly is all. [08:21] sebsebseb: no I mean if there is a page or facebook page that advertises the event let popey know it [08:21] at least the cost is still low, but I wonder by next week, if my budget of 30 pounds ( which I might up a bit with reason ), will be all spent [08:21] for the Facebook marketitng [08:22] TwistedLucidity: well it's aimed at general public, they use Facebook! [08:22] That's because they don't know any better! :-P [08:22] TwistedLucidity: not using Twitter for this, uh to that, one is enough like this for this one. [08:22] * sebsebseb doesn't like Facebook or Twitter [08:23] I wonder how GNUSocial is going these days? I really meant to set that up and well....life [08:23] http://identi.ca was good, but then the community split in half. those who wanted to carry on on pump,io and those who wanted to continue with the old status.net on another site [08:23] TwistedLucidity: yeah I used to use identica quite a bit for a while at one stage [08:23] but well that's differnet, and that was nice, and yeah [08:23] TwistedLucidity: actsaully I got ot meet the guy who started identi.ca at FOSDEM one year as well :) [08:24] which year I don't remember exactly, I been five years now. uhmm I guess it was 2013 or something [08:25] TwistedLucidity: indeed promoting freedom, bingo exacly what it is, but software, and creative commons multimead stuff to [08:25] loads of artists music peopel etc, won't een know about CC yet [08:25] Matt Lee come to our LUG to give a talk. We couldn't get enough folks together (very small LUG) so we had beers instead \o/ [08:25] (Matt Lee of GNU Social fame) [08:25] TwistedLucidity: which LUG is that, also I have mett Matt Lee :) [08:25] in 2014 [08:26] since I decided to go on a special visit, to attend one of his talks etc [08:26] that was happening a train ride away, longish one [08:27] TwistedLucidity: would be nice if these more open sites, federated sites and what not [08:27] were all more popular [08:27] but nope [08:27] not with the society we have etc [08:27] TwistedLucidity: companies really dominate things [08:27] money this money that, oh and brexit will be something to h eh [08:27] It's hard for a non-techy to do though. And you have to worry about redundancy, back-ups etc. [08:27] Security.... [08:27] Tricky stuff [08:27] apparnatly petrol will go up five pencce a litter soon since that to etc etc [08:28] TwistedLucidity: a non techy to do what? [08:28] hard for [08:28] Install, say, GNUSocial, ensure it is secure and so on [08:28] TwistedLucidity: yeah I guess, but there are quite a few sites out there, using that [08:28] I think [08:28] or well for status.net there still are [08:29] I'm still not convinced my ownCloud install is safe to use. :-S [08:29] TwistedLucidity: have you seen sandstorm.io yet? [08:29] JonTheNiceGuy[m]: Uh, nope. That's a new one. [08:29] TwistedLucidity: so what are the details for that, so someone can get in easier :D [08:30] It's a very secure, self hosting platform [08:30] JonTheNiceGuy[m]: aww going to have to look at sosme other music sources to [08:30] sebsebseb: Hire someone who know's what they are doing, just as you would a plumber. :-D [08:30] JonTheNiceGuy[m]: shame about the lack of a serach feature and by genre as well [08:31] TwistedLucidity: so is that what I Want, more female attendes in 20's to early 30's :D [08:32] TwistedLucidity: trying to promote tech to a not that interested woman, can be differnet, to a not that interested man [08:33] JonTheNiceGuy[m]: Sandstorm looks neat, maybe even more overkill for my needs than ownCloud is TBH. Still...might give it a punt at some point for giggles. I know folks who might have a use for it [08:34] sebsebseb: Is it? I've little (well, no) marketing experience. [08:35] TwistedLucidity: can be [08:35] I guess there can be a cultural slant to things. [08:36] hmm maybe ths song can be used , not that keen on it, but it's not that bad I guess [08:37] Right...supoort calls...who hasn't read the blasted instructions today? :-| [09:08] TwistedLucidity, Maybe you should have a look at https://github.com/facebook. The product might be closed, but Facebook as a company has done a lot more than others for open-source development of large scale web apps. [09:08] Gargoyle: I am aware. I still won't use Facebook. [09:09] Fair enough, I don't use it either (other than for development). [09:10] There's no irony to using it to promote a Linux event though. [09:11] is there a way to show nicklist in irssi only for certain chans? [09:11] its super useful for small chans , sucks for biggues [09:13] Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Ada Lovelace Day! 😃 [09:27] morning boys and girls [09:28] not sure i like these skullcandy headphones [09:28] the EQ seems odd. [09:28] not flat [09:47] JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSfBmlXlqio cheeky one it's from ada lovelace the musical :) [09:50] JamesTait: and yes I had to look that one up :) I didn't want to spilt it between songs like last time :) [10:52] hi on ubuntu 16.04.1 adding a network printer. i click find printer with the associated ip address. it finds the printer but keeps repeating the ip address until the printing software ceases [10:53] can anyone point me in the right direction [10:55] danielmx: what manufacturer is the printer by? [10:56] HP [10:56] adding printer work on another linux machine [11:03] danielmx: hmm normally that works fine [11:04] danielmx: you can try add the hp-lip app and access it via that [11:08] seems to be fixed i was logged in as guest user [11:09] logged out and logged in as admin and was able to add printer and print test page [11:09] does this mean any user that logs in as guest can now use printer [11:09] or shall i test it to be sure [11:12] ah yeah you would need to be an admin to enable it [11:16] thanks for your help, very much appreciated [13:00] Is there something specific you have to do, or does gnome just not like to remember the position of app windows between runs? === Seeker`_ is now known as Seeker` === Seeker` is now known as Guest83293 === Guest83293 is now known as Seeker === brmbrmca1 is now known as brmbrmcar [15:58] Gargoyle: the old ctrl+click rule do nothing i take it? not that i know whether that was ever cross-platform or not [15:59] daftykins, Nope. [16:01] Maybe it's just a Mac thing I had gotten used to. [16:03] guess you didn't have multiple screens there then, i've always heard and seen first hand how Macs can't handle multiple displays :) [16:04] Sure do. The last few iterations of OSX have been MUCH improved in that regard. [16:05] Separate exposé per screen, etc. [16:05] can't stand the OS myself - and the business practices of the company simply immoral [16:05] yay i gave android pay my first try today, having repaired my phone \o/ waitrose had some self service machines in which supported it :) [16:07] 4 years ago, I would have told anyone that it was the best desktop. Unix like sub-system with a well polished UI. But over the last few versions, they have crippled it from a hobbyist/techie perspective in favour of making it more of a consumer product. [16:08] Which was the final push to make me switch to linux desktop! :-) [16:09] hmm, i find it gives very little UI feedback in most operations as to anything going on - so for example adding accounts you have to sit and hope awaiting a result [16:10] but the sale of outdated components in fixed configurations that are often not upgradable (or take a while to be reverse engineered) due to the Apple Way(TM) is just unforgivable for me :) [16:15] daftykins, Yeah. But that's part of the consumer focus which Apple has always had to some degree. "It just works". None of this nonsense about only having the choice of 1 resolution option! ;-) [16:15] Gargoyle: sounds like you're talking display res? did i misunderstand? [16:17] Yeah I am. I have to run the nvidia tweak tool thing every login to change my screen res down a bit (MBP Retina). [16:18] I'm not that bothered though. After Christmas I'm going to build a dedicated desktop system. The laptop will become a tool for the 2 days a month I am in the office until it dies. [16:20] I'm sure with a bit more playing, I could get xrandr to play ball or something. Haven't really had the time to dig into it too much. [16:20] ah i didn't mean to allude to that, but definitely the scaling settings are a joke versus manual control, and is an example of Apple dumbing things down too much [16:20] yup [16:22] Speaking of running out of time - must go and get a haircut before I forget what my ears look like! [16:22] laters... [16:22] enjoy o/ === bashrc_ is now known as bashrc [17:20] Happy Coming Out Day ! https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=%23NationalComingOutDay&qpvt=%23NationalComingOutDay&FORM=EWRE