[00:00] lol [00:00] I think shadeslayer like ruby [00:00] *likes [00:00] shadeslayer: do you like Ruby? :O [00:01] oh dear, I need a system restart [00:02] I may or may not be back [00:02] o/ clivejo [00:13] acheronuk, clivejo: if KCI isn't up and running by after school Monday, or we at the very minimum have no progress, I'll make some hacky KCI scripts that will be our KCI for the time being. :P [00:14] :/ [00:14] in Python :P [00:14] because we need a CI, no matter how hacky! [00:15] on that note [00:15] * clivejo goes to bed [00:15] bai bai clivejo [00:45] mm I can't get this package in YY: Package libpng12-0 is not installed. [00:45] it [00:45] it's missing in the archive for YY [01:00] valorie: since I have tomorrow off I'm going to go though those wiki pages [01:00] need to make a few VMs for 16.04 and 14.04 then [01:11] oooo, awesome [01:11] thank you ahoneybun [01:11] I am out of energy to do it [01:12] did y'all contact anyone about artwork for the website? [01:12] if not, give me a couple of email addresses and I'll do it [02:13] No new images yet here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/368/builds Good night all. [02:30] niters mparillo [02:32] yeah, zsync still reports 1008 [02:32] 3 days ago [04:22] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Yakkety Final] has been updated (20161012) [04:22] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Yakkety Final] has been updated (20161012) [07:14] mparillo: we have new isos now [07:44] Good morning friends, I'm working on Packaging guide on the train this morning. [07:45] Its nice to be out and about. [07:53] firefox is missing from our is for some reason [07:53] *iso [07:53] morning Rick :) === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [08:24] TY acheronuk and valorie. I got up early and see the new images at: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/368/builds [08:24] !testers [08:24] Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip, mparillo for information [08:24] ^^^ [08:35] mparillo: another iso respin will be on the way shortly [09:23] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1632616 [09:23] Launchpad bug 1632616 in firefox (Ubuntu) "firefox missing from Kubuntu YY ISO" [Undecided,New] [09:24] todays isos are final ? [09:30] I hope not. Neither of the two bugs I encountered were fatal to me, but I think putting a web browser on an ISO is a good thing. [09:35] clivejo: I would not know [09:52] What did I ask you? [09:58] soee_: In the backlog, mparillo: another iso respin will be on the way shortly. I missed that when re-configuring konversation. [10:00] Unless it comes soon, I may not be able to test a re-spin on real HW for maybe another 10 hours or so, and in a VM, I have been getting: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/1627348 [10:00] Launchpad bug 1627348 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Live DVD boots to black screen with mouse pointer" [Undecided,Confirmed] [11:07] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1632616 [11:07] Launchpad bug 1632616 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "firefox missing from Kubuntu YY ISO" [Undecided,New] [11:19] No pleasing everyone! [11:19] ^^^ testing of current iso spin still required while that is being fixed/looked at [11:20] I expect a £500 Amazon voucher! [11:21] If we were doing this for the money, you should add at least a zero on the end of that [11:22] [12:19] acheronuk: Kay. I'd prefer to respin once and call it done rather than do a new image for every bugfix, so the more testing, the merrier. [11:46] !testers [11:46] Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip, mparillo for information [11:46] isos need testing http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/368/builds [11:47] there will be a new respin later, but needed testing now so that can be the last one with as many bugs squashed as possible [11:47] Firefox missing on the iso is a known issue [12:08] Qt 5.6.2 https://blog.qt.io/blog/2016/10/12/qt-5-6-2-released/ [12:10] https://blogs.kde.org/2016/10/12/resurrecting-yakuake \o/ [12:12] \o/ [12:15] :) [12:16] thank you Sho_ I look forward to this very much [12:18] same! === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [13:20] Hiyas all [13:21] hiho BluesKaj [13:21] Hi soee [13:25] ScottK: with delay, but yes [13:25] any word from DO? [13:28] did you contact through https://www.digitalocean.com/company/contact/ ? [13:32] Rick Timmus was to email them [13:32] they offered $400 of credit before, but it was never followed up [13:33] oh i thought our KCI was there and was gone no? [13:33] you talk about new vps ? [13:34] our KCI is on pangea on bluesystems [13:34] or was..... [13:34] and it is still dead ? [13:35] jenkins is alive, but no keys and slaves [13:35] essential its dead [13:36] essentially [13:36] Phil could probably restore it, but he is not about [13:36] or partially restore, anyway [13:36] long term, somewhere else might be best [13:37] or at least worth investigating in case the current one is irrecoverable [13:37] Riddell: ping [13:38] yo clivejo [13:38] you still have a AWS account linked to Kubuntu ? [13:38] nope, never had one [13:38] I paid it from my account them claimed it from ubuntu fund or kubuntu fund [13:38] Amazon no? [13:39] oh right, but there used to be a packaging server that could be started as I recall? [13:39] of course since Kubuntu has 10,000£ in the bank that should pay for quite a few AWS instances [13:39] thats earmarked [13:39] althouh they're changed in $ so better use them soon because that'll end up as a few minutes use before long [13:39] earmarked? what for? [13:39] thats a secret! [13:40] gosh [13:40] those must be some expensive stickers :) [13:40] LOL [13:40] Riddell: Haruld killed KCI and we looking for a box to try configure a new KCI [13:42] I just remembered that you have a few images you could spin up over at AWS [13:42] and the one from BS can't be restored ? [13:43] I dont know what Im doing and dont want to mess around too much with the one on pangea [13:43] and Simon wants to rewrite it in Python :/ [13:44] and cant we use the old version, work on it and replace with python version when it is ready ? :) [13:44] soee: sitter literally ripped its heart out [13:45] the keys are gone unless they can be recovered from the slaves [13:45] sitter: ^ canit be restored ? :> [13:45] hes tried [13:45] he also mentioned it been leaking keys [13:45] so that should be resolved ASAP [13:46] :| [13:46] I think its more humane to just put it out of its misery [13:47] I remember yofel saying something about the filesystem was almost shot too [13:50] at the moment hes the only one can recover the current one, but if we had another box then we could also be working on KCI-NG [13:53] I repaired everything but the nodes, which I can't because I have no access to them and apparently no one else either [13:54] and given the amount of whining one would think that you would keep backups given the importance of it [13:55] the scaleway node is Phils own [13:55] sitter: when you said it was leaking keys, can you tell us how? [13:56] lacking [13:56] oh leaking [13:56] I dunno [13:56] oh maybe I misunderstood that [13:56] I though you said the other day it was leaking [13:56] I said it might be leaking or the recovery just recovered a lot of garbage [13:56] as in a security issue [14:09] well, it takes over 3 mins to boot to the desktop on YYand the logs and it shows a stsrt job running for a dev-disk that doesn't exist [14:10] in fstab or anywhere in /home or root or /media [14:17] yofel surely has keys and can recover the nodes? [14:17] just that he's not available [15:15] I still cannot get a successful install in VMware. [15:17] Differing symptoms: Sometimes a black screen, somtimes I can get to a plasma desktop (once without the wallpaper at all, never with file containment containing the installer) and launch the installer. It appears to be successful, but I can never boot afterwards. It works fine on real HW. === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [16:16] !ninjas [16:16] yofel, clivejo, acheronuk, tsimonq2, santa_: we need your attention! [16:17] We're getting really close to release... [16:17] what's left? [16:18] testing iso. hoping Firefox goes on it in next respin [16:18] Ok [16:19] Cosas buenas [16:19] What else? [16:19] calligra seems out if the FTBFS emails I got are unfixed [16:20] too late for anything else i think. release team are busy enough [16:22] I replied to the planning doodle assuming UK times, have no clue what timezone it actually was [16:22] but that is a week away, so can sort that [16:23] maybe see if we/you can help clivejo access the linode KCI nodes later? [16:31] calligra is about to be finished [16:32] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-misc/+sourcepub/6997512/+listing-archive-extra [16:32] :) [17:14] Oh shoot @acheronuk [17:14] It didn't do that for you?!? [17:15] The doodle? nope. did not have anything to indicate timezone [17:16] If you're logged in, then it's the timezone you told it you live in. [17:16] Otherwise, IIRC, UTC. [17:16] :( [17:16] Ok [17:23] Time-Zone Support: If you’re scheduling an online event, such as a Twitter chat or a video conference, you can enable time-zone support to keep participants across the country or across the world on the same page. [17:24] just not very obvious when making a poll how to get that right [19:29] gears start turning on new isos......... [19:32] Good because I am back home and I can test on HW. I had no luck at work using VMware. [19:34] uppers wont allow linux on the work pc? [19:34] Setting up firefox (49.0+build4-0ubuntu2) .... [19:34] only in a vn [19:34] vm [19:36] santa_: there is no error message [19:36] Hangs at Uploading calligra_2.9.11.orig.tar.xz: 191445k/191446k [19:37] Right. We have RHEL and SUSE VMs in the data center running on ESXi, but no, my work PC is Win7. And they block the IRC ports. [19:37] So I use IRC webchat at work. [19:37] so Ive edited my /etc/dput.cf to use sftp as that usually solves this issue when I use this mode to upload to PPA [19:37] oh [19:38] for some reason large uploads fail over ftp [19:39] plus my internet is slow so this might take a while to retry! [19:40] don't you have a linode container like rik? [19:40] I do, but its already local [19:41] it should work this time [19:41] you would think uploads to the archive would be sftp :/ [19:41] by default [19:43] but that means you have to get the ssh configured doesn't it? [19:56] santa_: could you take over that changelog please [19:57] https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/calligra/tree/debian/changelog?id=39a3dd16b5722a85dee0b277380e493f6a046861 [19:59] thats an old weaker key Im trying to phase out [19:59] maybe Ill just resign it myself with new key [20:06] clivejo: what do you mean take over? pushing something like this to kubuuntu_yakkety_archive: https://paste.kde.org/psqi5zqwi ? [20:06] Hai [20:07] well its signed by my old ID [20:07] its ok, Ill do it here [20:08] ok [20:18] santa_: regarding the gbp-archive script, could it be made to check locally before downloading the source tarball [20:20] clivejo: it's suposed to do that, for non fw/plasma/apps if the tarball already exists in the build area it doesn't download it [20:20] oh === ximion is now known as ximion-afk [20:21] so if you didn't have it in build-area it was downloaded [20:21] it was in the build area [20:22] but is downloading it again [20:22] 3rd time lucky! [20:22] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Yakkety Final] has been updated (20161012.1) [20:22] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Yakkety Final] has been updated (20161012.1) [20:22] acheronuk: ^^^^^ [20:22] dances [20:22] clivejo: do you have an updated kubuntu-automation clone? I had that bug but it's suposed to be fixed in master [20:23] not in about a week [20:23] i hit the bug, precisely when I was working on this calligra update [20:23] LOL [20:23] do a git pull then [20:23] its a beast! [20:23] yeah, I think it was split for frameworks [20:24] I know there's already out there standalone kexi and krita packages [20:24] !testers [20:24] Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip, mparillo for information [20:24] New builds are here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/368/builds [20:24] i plan to dig into them once zz[top] is open for development [20:25] clivejo: \o/ [20:25] Heh I was too quick, at first zsync was going "could not read control file from URL" [20:26] Hrmm, still doing it for the i386 one [20:26] take your time! [20:27] :D [20:27] can you guys please backport 2c4feeb0c9107732399f8ae3dacea3124572f345 to ktexteditor 5.26 [20:27] otherwise without it the text search is a bit broken [20:27] clivejo: ↑ [20:28] keithzg: Ugh. I got the same thing. Running zsync again. [20:28] maybe it takes LP a while to publish the ISO's [20:29] tsdgeos: is the an LP bug open for it? [20:29] i don't think so [20:29] fancy doing the honors? [20:29] kind of boring given i already built myself a fixed package [20:30] but i'll do it [20:30] bug or no bug in launchpad let's just, lets just do it [20:30] let's see if it gets me a fixed package [20:30] s/me/the rest [20:30] s/lets just// [20:31] now if launchapd was less bad [20:31] it would be amazing [20:31] I thought I was the only one had issues with it! [20:32] the only way i get to places is because i know how to build urls that bring me where i want [20:33] iso booting :) [20:34] * clivejo shakes head [20:34] and Im STILL downloading calligra [20:34] its only 180Mb ! [20:36] clivejo: santa_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktexteditor/+bug/1632848 [20:36] Launchpad bug 1632848 in ktexteditor (Ubuntu) "Fix search on yakkety" [Undecided,New] [20:37] heyyyyyyyyy [20:38] ick. firefox still has fugly GTK+3 theming [20:38] acheronuk: is that a bug of some sort? [20:38] guess that has to wait for FF50 [20:38] ok [20:39] FF50 is the first version that will cope with new GTK in YY [20:39] :DDDDDDDDDDDD [20:40] I use beta and dev on FF, so I don't see the ugliness [20:48] Uploading to ubuntu (via sftp to upload.ubuntu.com): [20:48] calligra_2.9.11-0ubuntu1.dsc: Permission denied (publickey). [20:48] Unable to connect to SSH host upload.ubuntu.com; EOF during negotiation [20:48] E: Error uploading file. [20:49] clivejo: did you see this in #ubuntu-release? [12:44] clivejo: have a ~/.dput.cf with something like https://paste.ubuntu.com/23314473/ but use your LP username [20:50] yes [20:50] its using sftp [20:50] but not allowing my key [20:50] clivejo: is the SSH key on that machine added to Launchpad? [20:50] yes [20:51] have you talked with jibcha about the issue? [20:51] no [20:52] sounds like he is willing to help [21:01] FF is on the new YY ISO [21:04] ^^^ yep :) [21:05] (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/krbRgyuO/file_775.desktop [21:06] Grrr............ [21:07] acheronuk: what's the grrrr for? [21:09] stupid telegram desktop client and plasma panel. sometimes clicking on it's taskbar entry and then telegram copies the desktop file as file into telegram [21:09] as above ^^^. [21:10] ah [21:10] * acheronuk closes telegram desktop [21:10] don't really need it at the moment [21:10] I fixed that with increasing one of the mouse event timers [21:11] when switching between windows I was dragging shortcuts around the place [21:12] I'll have to find that setting then [21:14] santa_: I cant get this to upload [21:14] upload.ubuntu.com wont accept it [21:15] via sftp === mamarley_ is now known as mamarley [21:15] so far so good with the new iso :) [21:16] open failed [21:16] E: Error uploading file. [21:16] ScottK: do you know what I might be doing wrong? [21:17] calligra seems to fail when I use ftp to upload, so Im trying to use sftp [21:17] Did you sign it? [21:17] yes [21:17] I'd ask in #launchpad then as that sounds like an LP issue. [21:17] gpg: Good signature from "Clive Johnston " [ultimate] [21:17] Good signature on /home/clivejo/project/calligra/upload/calligra_2.9.11-0ubuntu1.dsc. [21:18] wgrant may be able to check logs and see. [21:18] Let me see. [21:19] clivejo: It's definitely upload.ubuntu.com, not ppa.launchpad.net? [21:20] well thats what dput is outputing [21:20] OK [21:20] Uploading to ubuntu (via sftp to upload.ubuntu.com): [21:21] I added [ubuntu] [21:21] method = sftp [21:21] login = clivejo [21:21] to my dput.cf file [21:21] and its trying to do it [21:21] clivejo: Have you set path=/ubuntu too? [21:21] er [21:21] incoming=/ubuntu [21:22] no, but thats in my default dput.cf file [21:22] clivejo: Oh actually, it should be incoming=ubuntu [21:22] No leading / [21:22] It works for FTP for backward compatibility, but not for SFTP. [21:22] add that to my home dir ? === mariogrip_ is now known as mariogrip [21:22] clivejo: Yes. [21:23] done and working! [21:23] thanks wgrant! [21:23] Great. [21:23] SFTP error reporting is a bit bad. [21:23] a bit?!? [21:23] open failed [21:23] E: Error uploading file. [21:23] "open failed" is technically correct :P [21:24] why does regular ftp stall? [21:24] with just 1kb left? [21:25] clivejo: Hm, that usually means there's some unfortunately buggy router between you and LP. [21:26] LOL or several [21:26] SFTP is a bit less 70s, so isn't quite so easy to break. [21:27] it only seems to do it with larger sources [21:28] calligra being one of the bigger ones we have to work with [21:39] tsdgeos: do you have a deb diff for your fixed package? [21:40] i have no clue what that is [21:40] you mean https://paste.kde.org/pbbgsl3yq ? [21:42] well thats the patch you applied to fix it [21:43] but deb diff shows all the changes to the packaging [21:43] clivejo: you're speaking swahili to me [21:46] debian packing docs could well be written in it from what I've seen! [21:48] The general problem is once you know enough to write them you know too much to recapture the beginner perspective. [21:48] It's really important for people to contribute to docs while they are learning. For many of us it's too late. [21:49] yes, I've done a lot of proof reading and often encounter that in technical writing [21:49] and once you set it up, it tends to just work and for me I forget how I did it! [21:50] I'm AFK now, so good luck. [21:51] clivejo: git push --tags @ calligra [21:51] thanks for your help and advice :) [21:52] santa_: was calligra sync'ed with the archive and debian? [21:52] clivejo: with the archive, not with debian [21:53] unfortunately we have entirely different packaging histories [21:53] I think that "lack of merging with debian" comes from the svn/bzr era [21:54] oh yes! [21:54] it wasn't so easy to merge back then [21:54] anyway [21:54] I have the impression calligra is going to get split after frameworks porting, so we will continue from there [21:55] its already splitting off? [21:55] krita is standalone isnt it? [21:58] krita was increasingly standalone already [21:58] except for some shared libs or so [22:17] santa_, acheronuk, clivejo: can we PLEASE get Apps 16.04.3, Plasma 5.7.5, and Frameworks 5.26 in backports already?!? [22:19] In the old days of Kubuntu, if you simply ran the development release, it was almost like rolling. With a nicer community [22:19] we're not nice? [22:20] it has been pretty much rolling here, running yakkety.... [22:21] just a few big bumps in the road to roll over this this [22:21] in the old days, we almost always had someone paid to do this full-time [22:21] we def. miss that now [22:24] Meant nicer than the famous rolling distro [22:25] ha [22:25] not had much to do with them! [22:25] well, Arch aren't hard to beat in the friendly department [22:25] Right. Just this cycle, YY did not feel much like rolling; more like targeting the Launch date. [22:26] oh for sure [22:26] this cycle was a trial by fire [22:26] usually packages are uploaded as they are done [22:27] and everything is more relaxed [22:27] +1 on Trial by Fire :P [22:28] !info gpgme [22:28] Package gpgme does not exist in yakkety [22:28] !info gpgmepp [22:28] Package gpgmepp does not exist in yakkety [22:28] good start ^^ [22:28] !info python-gpgme [22:28] python-gpgme (source: pygpgme): python wrapper for the GPGME library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3-1.1 (yakkety), package size 25 kB, installed size 96 kB [22:29] eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy [22:30] !info libgpgme11 [22:30] libgpgme11 (source: gpgme1.0): GPGME - GnuPG Made Easy (library). In component main, is optional. Version 1.6.0-3 (yakkety), package size 112 kB, installed size 580 kB [22:30] oh ok [22:31] acheronuk: we needs 1.7.1 [22:31] and qtwebengine [22:31] that [22:31]