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| zzarr | when will OTA-14 come? (I know that OTA-13 just were released) | 07:58 |
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| davmor2 | zzarr: when it lands there there abouts | 10:41 |
| zzarr | davmor2, are there a feature list? | 10:57 |
| davmor2 | zzarr: not that I am aware of | 10:58 |
| zzarr | I wounder if the mms bugs are fixed? | 10:59 |
| zzarr | (I can't receive mmses at all) | 11:00 |
| davmor2 | zzarr: are your settings correct? | 11:00 |
| zzarr | yes | 11:04 |
| zzarr | I have checked them, it used to work until OTA-10 | 11:04 |
| davmor2 | zzarr: have you reported a bug? | 11:08 |
| davmor2 | zzarr: also check your cellular data connection is on something other than 2g | 11:09 |
| zzarr | I have reported "me too" to an existing report | 11:10 |
| zzarr | it's on 4g | 11:10 |
| zzarr | the data (e.g. browsing) works | 11:10 |
| davmor2 | zzarr: hmm then I'm outta ideas sorry :( | 11:11 |
| zzarr | no problems | 11:11 |
| zzarr | by the way, I can send mmses | 11:12 |
| zzarr | which should only be possible if the settings are correct | 11:13 |
| davmor2 | zzarr: the send a receive work the same way so it should just work. Have you tried sending one to yourself? | 11:13 |
| zzarr | yes | 11:13 |
| zzarr | when I send to myself or anyone else does then there's nothing | 11:14 |
| zzarr | when I send to anyone else it works | 11:14 |
| zzarr | I would like to have a look at the message app, where can I find the code? | 11:16 |
| fairiestoy | Buenas. I have a little question. Are there any plans yet to add more locking options to the lock screen? | 11:29 |
| davmor2 | zzarr: it's all in launchpad | 11:31 |
| davmor2 | fairiestoy: probably not no password, fingerprint, pin and none will probably be the defaults | 11:32 |
| fairiestoy | For anything else, one has to hack it himself i guess? | 11:33 |
| davmor2 | fairiestoy: why what do you think is missing? | 11:36 |
| fairiestoy | Not missing. But maybe a more safe way to lock my screen. I thought of more using the fact, that we have a touch screen. | 11:40 |
| fairiestoy | As an example, something like the old safes with that spinning wheel with a random starting point. | 11:41 |
| zzarr | okey, thanks | 11:52 |
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| dobey | zzarr: if/when ota14 comes it will mostly be all bug fixes | 12:58 |
| dobey | fairiestoy: a combination style UI would probably be doable, but remember that any implementation really needs to be usable on all devices, including standard PCs, for convergence | 12:59 |
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| zzarr | dobey, is there a page where I can see the bugreports/status? | 13:08 |
| dobey | zzarr: launchpad.net/canonical-devices-sytem-image | 13:10 |
| fairiestoy | dobey: So is it in general a bad idea to implement something, that is more suitable for smaller devices (mobile phones) that for PC's? Since you are taking much of potential out of a platform or am i getting this wrong? | 13:12 |
| zzarr | thanks dobey | 13:13 |
| dobey | fairiestoy: remember that the goal of ubuntu is convergence. that means using the same interface and software across all types of devices, as well as for example a phone being plugged in to a large external display for usage in PC style format. you need to be able to unlock the device while it's plugged into the external monitor as well as while it's a phone. so any implementation needs to consider all these factors | 13:15 |
| Qwertie | Is it possible to run ubuntu touch in a VM on my desktop | 13:31 |
| davmor2 | Qwertie: use ubuntu-emulator | 13:34 |
| Qwertie | Do I need -images and -runtime as well? | 13:34 |
| davmor2 | Qwertie: you can only use the stable channel and it only works as expected on xenial | 13:34 |
| davmor2 | Qwertie: you run sudo ubuntu-emulator create --channel ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu <Name of vm eg stable> then run ubuntu-emulator run stable | 13:36 |
| davmor2 | Qwertie: it's slow but it should give you an idea | 13:36 |
| fairiestoy | dobey: The question that pops up my mind is, how much more work is it, to have a situational interface? As example if we have a phone and plug it to a larger display, use another unlocking mechanism? Im aware, that this is quite some effort, since its easier to just scale or modify existing mechanisms to fit a new display size. | 13:37 |
| dobey | Qwertie: you can run unity8 in a qemu/kvm vm if you want | 13:38 |
| davmor2 | Qwertie: you can also install unity8-desktop-session on a standard vm or on your pc for the pc experience of unity8 | 13:38 |
| Qwertie | Is unity8 on desktop and ubuntu touch pretty much the same thing? | 13:39 |
| dobey | fairiestoy: i don't know the code for the lock screen, and haven't worked on the designs, so i can't say how much more work it would be. i simply know that it is something that must be considered | 13:39 |
| davmor2 | fairiestoy: that is a silly idea from sysadmins in most places users can't remember their passwords from one week to the next having to remember more than one on a device is madness I tell you ;) | 13:40 |
| dobey | fairiestoy: it's not just considering the display size though, but also how one interacts with the system. you can have a 24" touch screen, or a 5" screen that doesn't do touch. then there are goggles/glasses with a display, or a VR headset, that one can use | 13:41 |
| dobey | Qwertie: yes and no | 13:41 |
| zzarr | I didn't find a bugreport about the mms problem, so I filed a new one | 13:43 |
| zzarr | https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1632715 | 13:44 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1632715 in Canonical System Image "Can't receive MMS messages" [Undecided,New] | 13:44 |
| zzarr | I hope I filed it in the right place | 13:44 |
| dobey | zzarr: did you verify the APN is correct for your provider? | 13:48 |
| zzarr | yes | 13:48 |
| zzarr | and I can send mms, just not receive | 13:49 |
| zzarr | I have even had contact with my providers tech support | 13:49 |
| zzarr | I used to be able to receive mmses until OTA-10 | 13:51 |
| zzarr | I forgot to write that | 13:51 |
| fairiestoy | davmor2: Hmm yeah ok that's a good point ^^ | 13:52 |
| fairiestoy | dobey: I see. It was just a quick idea in the first place and its interesting to see the points to consider. | 13:54 |
| zzarr | now I have edited the report, I hope it's getting assigned to someone | 13:55 |
| dobey | fairiestoy: yes, someone made a design for such a lock screen a long while back, even. but it was only for the phone. i'm not sure how it would be adaptable to other interaction models | 13:58 |
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| morf | hello | 14:54 |
| morf | is it possible to run ubuntu touch on samsung galaxy s5 (klte)? did it anybody? thx :) | 14:55 |
| dobey | !devices | morf | 15:09 |
| ubot5 | morf: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 15:09 |
| morf | "no activity" :) | 15:09 |
| morf | i guess supporting many devices is no fun at all... | 15:10 |
| wligtenberg | Just read about this: http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/hp-elite-x3-lap-dock-features-specs would that also work with ubuntu touch? The laptop part at least. Since it is using miracast, I would almost assume that it should "just" work. | 15:19 |
| dobey | not sure if it will work or not. not all miracast things are equal | 15:20 |
| wligtenberg | dobey, somebody should really check that (probably from Canonical) because it might be a boost for their convergence idea. I would like it, for sure. | 15:26 |
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| tedg | mariogrip: Howdy, so I got a N5 and installed from ubports | 15:58 |
| tedg | mariogrip: It seems that on the OTA13 image the browser doesn't work because of a hybris mismatch. | 15:59 |
| tedg | mariogrip: I downgraded to OTA12 and things seem to all be okay. | 15:59 |
| tedg | mariogrip: The browser seemed to have the same issue on rc-proposed | 15:59 |
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| flohack | Good Eve | 16:35 |
| flohack | greyback: Who was the guy for Mir you mentioned yesterday? | 16:35 |
| greyback | flohack: kdub can help with egl and mir | 16:36 |
| flohack | kdub: Are you alive? :) | 16:36 |
| kdub | yes | 16:36 |
| flohack | I got an issue with non-functional Mir server on HTC One X (endeavoru) | 16:37 |
| flohack | Basically now I am trying the various tests | 16:37 |
| flohack | e.g. this one: http://pastebin.com/iUr9kPVK | 16:37 |
| flohack | mir_demo_standalone_render_surfaces and mir_demo_standalone_render_overlays works on the other hand | 16:39 |
| flohack | sorry overlays does not work. | 16:39 |
| flohack | mir_demo_standalone_render_to_fb works | 16:39 |
| flohack | Ending mir_demo_server_minimal with CTRL-C gives: ^C*** Error in `mir_demo_server_minimal': corrupted double-linked list: 0x0109ebb8 *** | 16:41 |
| flohack | Aborted (core dumped) | 16:41 |
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| flohack | kdub: still there? | 16:42 |
| kdub | well, probably need a backtrace if its segfaulting | 16:43 |
| kdub | and you can disable overlays with MIR_SERVER_DISABLE_OVERLAYS=true | 16:44 |
| flohack | Ok can I use a debug build somehow? | 16:46 |
| kdub | flohack, debug builds are available https://launchpad.net/%7Eci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+sourcepub/6988261/+listing-archive-extra | 16:57 |
| flohack | Oki will take a look. Need now internet on the device, also not so easy... | 16:58 |
| kdub | yknow, what's probably going on is | 16:58 |
| kdub | its the cpu mapping, and not the overlays that's being the problem | 16:59 |
| kdub | because render_to_overlays will try to draw with the CPU, and then post via hwc | 16:59 |
| kdub | and the diagnostics tests says that fails as well, so that might clue you in | 16:59 |
| flohack | hmm | 17:13 |
| flohack | kdub Im a porter, not a developer xD | 17:13 |
| flohack | But its not in Mir, look | 17:14 |
| flohack | kdub: root@ubuntu-phablet:~# test_egl | 17:14 |
| flohack | Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 17:14 |
| flohack | so the libhybris test is also failing | 17:14 |
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| Bray90820_ | Is there a usb device I can plugin to my tablet to see the battery percentage? | 18:47 |
| Bray90820_ | Wrong channel | 18:47 |
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| flohack | Can I find debug symbols for libhybris-test somewhere | 19:33 |
| flohack | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. | 19:33 |
| flohack | 0x401bbdd8 in eglCreateWindowSurface () | 19:33 |
| flohack | from /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libhybris-egl/libEGL.so.1 | 19:33 |
| dobey | flohack: they should be in the PPA as well | 19:35 |
| flohack | Can I instruct apt to fetch them? ;) | 19:36 |
| flohack | because apt install libhybris-test-dbgsym does not work | 19:36 |
| dobey | you need to add the ddebs URL to apt | 19:37 |
| flohack | oh | 19:37 |
| flohack | Ok give up for today: error 3008 (EGL_BAD_DISPLAY) is my nemesis :) | 19:50 |
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