/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/10/13/#kubuntu-devel.txt

tsimonq2ScottK: you got a bug number? I lost it00:15
IrcsomeBot1<marcinsagol> https://youtu.be/MjoXzvfN69M00:51
ahoneybunyea I saw mention of that today00:52
ScottKNot on my phone. I think I have it on my laptop.01:58
tsimonq2night o/02:21
valorieniters simon02:29
ScottKtsimonq2: Bug 1630700.  hefee (on #debian-qt-kde) says there are some additional commits needed to fully fix it.04:37
ubottubug 1630700 in kcoreaddons (Ubuntu Xenial) "CVE - KMail - HTML injection in plain text viewer" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163070004:37
ScottKhttps://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kcoreaddons.git&a=commitdiff&h=a06cef31cc4c908bc9b76bd9d103fe9c60e0953f04:38
ScottKhttps://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kcoreaddons.git&a=commitdiff&h=5e13d2439dbf540fdc840f0b0ab5b3ebf6642c6a04:38
ScottKSo in addition to Xenial , Yakkity needs some additional fixing.04:38
ScottKclivejo: ^^^04:39
CRogersMornin. :)07:32
acheronukMorning :)07:41
santa_good morning everyone08:16
santa_tsimonq2: I think we will get there once yakkety is out, we had to stuggle so much to get that in yakkety08:17
acheronukstill needs merging to xenial_backorts08:22
santa_kubuntu_xenial_backports08:22
santa_that won't be a problem08:22
santa_mparillo: I agree very much that the slowness in the updates is the key problem of kubuntu right now. there are a couple issues which are contibuting to that:08:22
santa_1. lack of permissions of people working on the packaging (rik,clive,simon,myself)08:22
santa_2. failing autotests, which makes our packages get stuck in -proposed08:23
santa_about 1. I think the kubuntu council is on the mood to cooperate08:23
santa_also we did some progress in that area: I got permissions to push my changes to git and upload to the ppas and clive got permissions to upload our packaging to the archive08:24
acheronuksanta_: yep. the one thing really blocking is testing on XX and sorting out what else needs copying over from Qt overlay ppas or rebuilding for the qt ABI change 08:24
acheronukI imagine we can put that together in the landing ppa in fairly short order though, then test08:25
santa_mparillo: there's still work to be done about 1. rik is going to increase his status applying for membership, I also plan to apply for membership, then for 'Kubuntu Developer' that would give me permissions to upload packages to the archive08:27
santa_mparillo: about 2. it's easy to fix, we will check the failing autotests in advance so we won't be so stuck on that08:28
santa_mparillo: and I would add 3. like acheronuk pointed out, sometimes we don't have the Qt packages we need, which are not maintained by us. but we can work with the people who does08:29
santa_mparillo: so to sum up, I think it's feasible to improve that, but it will take some time and work08:30
acheronuksanta_: membership won't give me very more permissions on what is really needed08:30
acheronuk*very much08:31
acheronukbut it is a stepping stone :)08:31
santa_acheronuk: but you are one step less far from becoming a "Kubuntu Developer" and get permissions to upload our packaging08:31
acheronuksanta_: a gigantic step away08:32
santa_not really08:32
santa_it's not such a big deal, and you are smart enough to fill any gaps in your knowledge08:33
acheronukperhaps. in my head it's like an exam, and I've always wanted to pass those with top marks rather than scraping a pass. maybe I'll have to adjust that aspiration slightly08:38
mparilloTY santa_ and I hope it did not sound like I was complaining. We are all volunteers here.08:39
santa_mparillo: sure, you don't "complain" in a bad way :)08:40
mparilloOn another note, thank you for moving calligra along. I see:  [Notice] -queuebot to #ubuntu-release- New binary: calligra [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1:2.9.11-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu) Does that mean it will be added back to the ISO, and does that mean there will be another respin to test?08:41
santa_apparently it's not on the kubuntu iso, or so they said08:42
santa_right now is in yakkety-proposed and I have the impression it would be in yakety-updates once yakkety is out08:43
mparilloExcellent. You unstuck the builds by moving it to -proposed.08:43
acheronukI *think* some part of calligra (data package?) used to get dragged onto the iso via deps or something08:44
jimarvangood morning peeps08:57
jimarvanhow is it going?08:57
acheronukmorning.09:00
acheronuknot bad I think jimarvan :)09:01
acheronukissues to sort as always, but YY isos seem done09:01
jimarvan:D09:02
acheronukiso testing welcome http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/368/builds09:02
jimarvanthanks09:02
BluesKajHiyas all09:02
jimarvandownloading right away09:02
jimarvanhey BluesKaj09:02
BluesKajhi jimarvan09:03
acheronukhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu10:42
acheronukdo we copy the XX ones and go from there?10:42
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clivejo<santa_> about 1. I think the kubuntu council is on the mood to cooperate  - I dont think it is their mood.  Decisions are made on a range of skills and attributes, such as contributions, working as part of a team, working within the established workflow, and also willingness and ability to mentor/support potential team members.  I don't think mood comes into it! 10:50
santa_"mood" so to speak10:51
clivejowell its release day :)10:52
clivejoand a big thankyou to you santa_ for all the work you put in10:52
clivejoits also my pups 1st birthday :)10:52
santa_yeah, I think I never had so much hair, so much beard and so many pizza boxes in my table XD10:53
santa_we will handle things better for zz I hope :)10:53
acheronuk+1 on the big thank you. we would have been in a deep hole without your hard work10:53
acheronukclivejo: happy birthday to the pup :)10:56
clivejoI dont think he knows its his birthday10:56
clivejohes running about like its just any old day10:56
clivejowe need cake!10:57
acheronukI can still wish him one :P10:57
clivejowish I could find a ball or toy he couldnt kill within 30mins of giving it to him10:57
acheronukmmmmm..... cake10:57
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clivejoScottK: RE: LP 1630700 yakkety needs additional fixing?11:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1630700 in kcoreaddons (Ubuntu Xenial) "CVE - KMail - HTML injection in plain text viewer" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163070011:01
acheronukand thankyou to shadeslayer_ for help uploading etc :)11:01
clivejo+111:01
shadeslayer_you're most welcome :)11:01
shadeslayer_congrats on the release! :D11:02
santa_shadeslayer_: yes, thank you very much!11:19
tsimonq2Hey, we need three more Lubuntu testcases done, if anyone has a machine to spare, PLEASE help us out.11:26
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ScottKclivejo: check with hefee on #debian-qt-kde, but AIUI, yes.  Those two additional commits I linked.11:42
acheronukcopied release notes over and made some initial changes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu13:10
acheronukstill needs some sorting though13:10
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I'll work when I get home13:48
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jimarvan:D14:44
soeeo/14:44
acheronukas always, jumping the gun http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/10/download-ubuntu-16-10-flavors14:46
acheronukhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2016-October/000213.html15:22
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jimarvanRELEASE DAY16:15
jimarvanyay :D16:15
jimarvanwhen do we put it on the news?16:16
acheronukwhen Aaron gets off work I think16:17
tsimonq2jimarvan: as soon as either ahoneybun valorie or ovidiuflorin realizes we have a release today :P16:17
jimarvan:)16:18
BluesKajanother anticlimctic release day for us testers :-)16:18
jimarvanhaha16:18
jimarvanindeed16:18
tsimonq2:D16:18
jimarvanwe need to put some fireworks on16:18
jimarvanneed bam bum stuff16:18
jimarvan:P16:18
BluesKajno upgrades 16:18
jimarvanBluesKaj: trust me Rick can make it sound like the upgrade of the century16:19
jimarvan:P16:19
soee_http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/kubuntu-16-10-is-out-with-kde-plasma-5-7-applications-16-04-3-frameworks-5-26-509267.shtml16:19
BluesKajthe upgrade passed yesterday, for me at least, jimarvan16:20
jimarvan;)16:20
jimarvantalk to you laters!16:20
jimarvanleaving office, see ya :D16:20
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mamarleyDo we know what ZZ is going to be called yet?16:43
mamarleyKeeping with the American rock music theme of the previous release, it could be called ZZ Top. :p16:43
acheronuknothing on mark's blog yet to say16:52
alleeholmuon16:58
alleeholhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu mentions muon update manger for upgrades.   That doesn't exist and AFAICS muon is not even part of kubuntu-desktop16:59
soeeusually new name is 1 week after release17:12
clivejowas same day for yakkety17:12
acheronuksoee: http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/tmp/release-name-notice.png17:13
acheronukcould be today. could be longer17:15
soeewhile waiting for zz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6tvmzfyaT417:17
* mamarley starts playing "Gimme All Your Lovin'" on an imaginary drumset.17:17
acheronukI'm hoping he celebrates the end of the alphabet by breaking the animal theme, and goes for Z***** Zombie17:18
* clivejo yawns17:19
mamarleyclivejo: How can you possibly be thinking about sleeping with all this racket coming from my imaginary drumset? :p17:21
clivejoI seem to have managed to tune you out!17:21
soeeclivejo: https://goo.gl/UflWr17:21
clivejo:/17:22
clivejoyou must have a huge library of funny stuff17:23
clivejoanyone know how Phil was providing containers on Linode?17:26
soeebtw. where is he these days ?17:27
clivejohes taking some time off17:28
tsimonq2Hey, depending on how I feel tomorrow, thers17:31
tsimonq2*there's a chance I might take the weekend off17:32
tsimonq2Maybe even neext week17:32
tsimonq2*nexxt17:32
tsimonq2argh you get it17:32
tsimonq2This was a HARSH release17:32
santa_yep17:34
acheronukclivejo: IRC logs https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/07/23/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t01:4617:36
clivejoLOL reading it now17:37
acheronuknot sure that really helps, but was when Phil was setting up the linode ones I think17:37
clivejoIm at evil_yofel17:37
acheronukLOL17:37
acheronuktsimonq2: whatever you need to do. 17:40
tsimonq2acheronuk: cosas buenas17:44
clivejoahoneybun: ping17:44
tsimonq2Going AFK extra early today. o/17:46
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> Softpedia is going crazy on twitter that Kubuntu 16.10 has been released17:50
acheronukovidiuflorin: yep, I saw. 17:52
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> Do we consider it released, or we don't really have a choice?17:52
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> Can someone please give me some release notes, so I can update the site?17:52
clivejodoes anyone know how Phil created the containers on Linode17:53
acheronuknope17:53
acheronukovidiuflorin: not finished yet, but.... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu17:54
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu17:56
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> yeah...17:56
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> ok17:56
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> I'll link to it17:56
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> from the download page17:56
acheronukovidiuflorin: we are released AFAIK, but just running to catch up....17:56
acheronuklubuntu notes are still 16.04, so we are not the last to catch up17:58
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> SHould I put 16.10 to be first?18:00
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> or leave the latest LTS to be first?18:00
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> on the download page?18:00
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> I'd put the latest on top18:01
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> But Ubuntu puts the latest LTS on top18:01
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> Should I still keep 14.04 there?18:01
acheronukif me, I would leave 16.10 at the top, and leave 14.04 there at the bottom as well18:04
acheronukas far as I am concered, using the LTS is an option, not the default choice18:04
mamarleyThat is my opinion too, if it matters.18:04
acheronukand keeping it chronological top to bottom is less confusing18:05
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> That's what I did18:10
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> now if someone (hint valorie or ahoneybun @ahoneybun) wants to write a blog post for our site, I'll gradly publish it18:11
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> the updated download pages are onlline18:11
clivejotsimonq2: are you running a container inside your container on Linode?18:11
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Listen here you, some people have jobs and such18:32
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> What's up clivejo?18:33
ahoneybunclivejo: pong18:49
ahoneybunsome good news: https://plus.google.com/+KristerHallergard/posts/95aF1hJweNA19:01
ahoneybunacheronuk already commented on it19:01
clivejoahoneybun: its ok, got sorted19:12
ahoneybunok19:13
clivejoI wanted the login details for the Linode main container19:14
ahoneybunI do not have that19:15
* ahoneybun works a little on the release post19:28
ahoneybunvalorie: around to review it?19:34
ahoneybunyay minor bugs: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37070319:46
ubottuKDE bug 370703 in UI "Welcome screen wallpaper should not be based on a Release wallpaper" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]19:46
valoriearound to review wha?19:55
valoriejust got online19:55
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> The release post for the site19:55
valorieand haven't read up yet19:55
valorieok19:56
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Alright19:56
valoriewe're going to keep the LTS banner?19:57
valoriei guess that's OK19:58
valoriemost of our users are on the LTS19:58
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I don't have anything19:58
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> to me it looks like we forgot to change it19:58
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> No one made anything19:59
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> LTS is an option people can take, but 16.10 is the latest supported release19:59
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> who made the LTS one?20:00
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Andreas20:00
valorieahoneybun: aren't we linking to upgrade notes and the download site?20:00
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> He's in the Podcast Telegram group20:01
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Well opps20:01
valorieif you give me the links here I'll add 'em20:01
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> If we are debating if it needs changing or not, I guess we don't need to change it tonight. no with urgency anyway20:02
ahoneybunalright back in my room20:03
ahoneybunvalorie: I don't think those pages are done20:04
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> personally I think the banner should highlight the latest release20:04
valorienot much point in publishing until they are20:04
valoriethe banner should wait, but we have to point to a page that tells people on the LTS how to turn that switch off, and the steps to upgrade20:05
valorieand those who want to download, where to get it from20:05
ahoneybunvalorie: working on getting a VM up now20:06
* ahoneybun deleted the 16.04 image ..20:06
valorieoops20:06
valorieI seed all of the supported ones, so I always have loads of images20:06
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> back later20:06
valorieoh, release note page has the info20:07
valorieperfect20:07
valoriewe just need our download page updated20:08
ahoneybunI have limited space so...20:08
ahoneybunvalorie: the download page where?20:08
valorielooks like that is already done as well20:08
valoriehttps://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/20:08
ahoneybunovidiuflorin did that20:08
ahoneybunyea just saw it20:08
valorieok, will publish then20:09
valoriewhen we have the more elaborate notes about how to upgrade we can add that as well20:09
ahoneybunvalorie: got a link for the upgrade from Xenial page?20:09
ahoneybunI know there was a card somewhere20:09
valorieon the card20:09
ahoneybunI'm trying to find it20:10
valoriepublished20:10
ahoneybunhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/YakketyUpgrades/Kubuntu20:11
ahoneybunfound it20:11
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> couldn't be too precise in the notes on upgrade, as I always do it via command line20:11
valorieme too20:11
valorieso much faster20:11
valoriesometimes I test the gui though20:11
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> and no GUI to crash!20:11
valoriedidn't have time for that this time20:11
valoriegui did crash on me once a few years ago20:12
valoriefortunately I knew the commandline already20:12
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> last time I recall using the gui was maverick I think? :P20:14
valoriedon't we have a cli workaround for the driver manager problem?20:22
valorieI should add that to the release notes20:22
valorieif the wiki lets me do it20:22
tsimonq2no ahoneybun I have a school, not a job20:28
tsimonq2:P20:28
tsimonq2clivejo: and a container inside that one20:28
valorieis it sudo ubuntu-drivers list ?20:30
acheronuk Available commands:20:34
acheronuk   devices: Show all devices which need drivers, and which packages apply to them.20:34
acheronuk   list: Show all driver packages which apply to the current system.20:34
acheronuk   autoinstall: Install drivers that are appropriate for automatic installation.20:34
acheronuk   debug: Print all available information and debug data about drivers.20:34
acheronukfor sudo ubuntu-drivers20:35
acheronuktsimonq2: you playing Russian dolls with lxc containers?20:36
valorieso like, sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall20:36
valoriethat seems a bit dicey20:36
tsimonq2acheronuk: how'd you guess? :D20:36
acheronuknot actually tried that one, I would not add that in the notes20:36
valoriewhen I invoked that, 20:37
valoriehe following additional packages will be installed:20:37
valorie  bbswitch-dkms lib32gcc1 libc6-i386 libcuda1-367 libjansson4 libxnvctrl0 nvidia-opencl-icd-367 nvidia-prime nvidia-settings ocl-icd-libopencl1 policykit-1-gnome screen-resolution-extra20:37
valorieI control C'd that20:37
valorienope, nope20:37
acheronukdevices and list let you see what there is. then you can manually install with apt or a package manager what you want20:38
acheronuksaying that, even the basic nvidia-3XX driver pulls in a lot of packages like above20:39
acheronuksome on recommends though, which you could avoid20:40
valorieI trusted driver-manager output20:43
valorieand feel I don't know enough to mess with my drivers20:43
valorieautoinstall it seemed wanted to go a big far20:43
acheronukwould have not really done any harm. just much of it not really needed for all nvidia cards20:45
valoriewell, 20:45
valorie$ sudo ubuntu-drivers list20:45
valorieintel-microcode20:45
valorienvidia-34020:45
valorienvidia-36720:45
valorieso it seems I have what is recommended already20:45
valorieanyway, this is too involved for that wiki page20:46
acheronukyep20:46
valorieam I the only one who still can't use "full-upgrade" with apt?20:57
valorieso annoying20:57
valoriehave to use dist-upgrade like the old days20:57
valorieheh, and nothing to upgrade today20:57
ahoneybunmm I can't click next on the 16.04 image21:12
ahoneybunin a VM21:12
ahoneybunjust not clickable21:12
clivejodoes anyone know where Jenkin's stores its keys?21:22
tsimonq2s/Jenkin's/Jenkins/21:24
* clivejo slap's tsimonq221:24
tsimonq2s/slap's/slaps/21:25
tsimonq2learn grammar! :P21:25
clivejoIm dyslexic, I cant21:25
tsimonq2s/cant/can't/21:26
* tsimonq2 runs21:26
clivejoyou are lucky there is an ocean between us21:27
tsimonq2clivejo: omg I almost forgot21:27
tsimonq2HAPPY PUP BIRTHDAY! :D21:27
clivejohes already broken all his toys21:28
tsimonq2BAD DOG21:28
tsimonq2:P21:28
clivejogrrrr21:30
clivejohow does this work!!21:31
* clivejo wonders what is running in dizzy-simon21:34
clivejotsimonq2: have you a bridge or something configured, or another container?21:35
tsimonq2clivejo: Magical Wizard Stuff™21:36
clivejohummmm21:36
clivejoDizzy Magic is forbidden21:37
tsimonq2clivejo: so none of this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFVaH0E9X3s :P21:39
tsimonq2valorie: we needs Mailign List release announcements21:44
valorieoh right21:45
valorieI'll forward the ubuntu one and add Kubuntu magick21:45
tsimonq2:D :D :D21:46
clivejowhere?!?21:48
* clivejo grabs Simon and shakes him violently21:48
clivejotell me where!21:49
tsimonq2clivejo: Release Announcement?21:50
clivejono, keys21:50
clivejowhere are the keys!21:50
tsimonq2clivejo: If you're talking about Jenkin's keys, I don't know a Jenkin.21:51
* clivejo cries21:57
clivejols21:57
ahoneybunoh you kept in those "\o/" valorie lol22:18
valorieI didn't notice them22:22
valoriewe can take them out when we add it the detailed help page22:22
valorieworking on a blog post right now22:23
* tsimonq2 taps his foot at sabdfl22:24
tsimonq2Zealous Zebu I hope :P22:24
valorieas long as it isn't zebra22:25
tsimonq2nah that wouldn't be like Mark22:25
tsimonq2valorie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fljKx9nvrL422:26
valorieand that right there is why I don't want it22:28
valorielol22:28
tsimonq2valorie: you see that before today?22:30
valorieI've not22:30
valorieor only in nightmares.....22:30
tsimonq2XDDDDD22:30
tsimonq2valorie: now you have to beg sabdfl not to pick that :P22:31
acheronukclivejo: is the an environment var GNUPGHOME set?22:31
clivejowhere?22:32
acheronukthe tooling for the main jenkins sets it to ENV['GNUPGHOME'] = '/var/lib/jenkins/tooling/gnupg, so I wondered if there was similar on the slaves?22:33
acheronukquite possible not...22:34
clivejogrrr22:39
clivejoI hate computers22:39
clivejoI really do22:39
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valorieI <3 computers, I <3 Kubuntu, I <3 y'all22:40
valorieeven grumpy clive22:40
valoriethanks mparillo22:40
mparilloMy pleasure.22:41
clivejoIm trying to get filezillia to connect via sftp22:41
clivejobut it cant see my keys22:41
tsimonq2clivejo: you proved valorie's point :P22:42
* tsimonq2 runs22:42
ahoneybunseems sadbfl likes apt-get22:42
valorieso old-fashioned22:42
ahoneybunhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z3yusiCOCk22:42
ahoneybunthat url though...22:43
valorieI almost forgot: happy birthday clivepup!22:45
tsimonq2^ :D22:45
clivejotsimonq2: what are you doing?22:45
tsimonq2clivejo: releasing Lubuntu 16.10, you?22:46
* acheronuk throws the pup an indestructible squeaky toy22:46
clivejoI need help22:46
tsimonq2!help | clivejo 22:47
ubottuclivejo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:47
clivejogrrr22:47
acheronukubotto needs a 'slap the smartass' trigger 22:47
tsimonq2XD22:48
* clivejo decides he dont need help that bad 22:48
acheronuksorry clive. just barely keeping from zzzzzzzzzzzzzz22:51
acheronukso would not be much help anyway22:51
tsimonq2clivejo: I CAN HELP YOU :D :D :D :D :D22:52
clivejono you cant, you will just annoy me even more22:53
clivejodoes anyone find that copying in Yakkety sometimes doesnt work?22:55
clivejoespecially from PIM?22:55
tsimonq2copying?22:55
clivejoyes, like copy a section of an email22:56
tsimonq2oh22:56
clivejoI have to click copy several times22:56
tsimonq2!support | clivejo 22:56
ubottuclivejo: The official Kubuntu support channel is #kubuntu. Please be aware that this channel is for development only.22:56
* tsimonq2 runs22:56
mparillocopying (ctrl-v) just worked for me in Konversation. I have noticed that I seem to hit <alt><tab> once to bring up the list of windows, then a second time to go the next one.22:57
mparilloAnd when a tester or developer asks a question it can be construed as debugging, not a support request.22:58
tsimonq2mparillo: I was kidding22:58
mparilloI know22:58
acheronuknight everyone. thank you for all the efforts and help on yakkety. despite adversity, it has been fun :)22:58
mparilloTY acheronuk. And it sounds as if Clive could use some unconditional support now.22:59
tsimonq2acheronuk: <3 o/22:59
acheronukclive always has my unconditional support22:59
* tsimonq2 pets clivejo's pup23:00
clivejoah23:01
clivejoIm in!23:01
acheronukin what?23:01
clivejothe slave23:01
valorieweeeee23:02
* acheronuk is sleepy but too curious to go now23:02
clivejoI could only access it via river (kci.pangea)23:02
acheronukmake the slave spill it's secrets23:02
clivejobut I added my keys and able to connect directly23:02
clivejoIm copying the /var/lib/jenkins now23:03
clivejolocally23:03
clivejosee if I can restore the files to master23:03
clivejoI can see LP PPA and git keys23:04
clivejoalioth23:04
clivejoand slaves23:04
clivejobut dunno how to make it that jenkins can see them23:05
tsimonq2sudo clivejo do "Configure LXC containers and rewrite in Python."23:06
tsimonq2:P23:06
acheronukwe can work it out23:06
acheronukor bribe someone who can23:06
tsimonq2I take cash or bitcoin, and beer if you can smuggle it to me :P23:07
acheronuknot you23:11
acheronuk:P23:11
acheronukwell, not with beer or bitcoin anyway23:12
mparilloMaybe we smuggle tsimonq2 to DE and he would be legal there.23:12
tsimonq2oh?23:12
acheronukDE?23:12
tsimonq2mparillo: what's the legal age there?23:13
mparilloI assumed non-existent, like their speed limits in the good old days; just act responsibly, like a good German.23:14
acheronukdamn, Akademy was just there23:15
clivejothis could take a while :/23:17

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