[00:07] <Crell> Hello peoples.  My Kubuntu 16.04 system just froze up, as it does occasionally, and I rebooted it.  On reboot, however, I am now getting dumped to emergency mode only.  It won't finish booting.
[00:08] <Crell> The message on screen suggests that the error may be related to "A TPM error (6) occurred attempting to read a pcr."
[00:08] <Crell> What's that mean, and what do I do about it?
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[04:02] <R4stafa> hi :)
[06:05] <user|95324> I cannot find a default backup tool in Kubuntu. Could I please get directions to it, or the one I should install? Thank you.
[07:16] <a4p[FW]Ryoma72> hi
[07:18] <a4p[FW]Ryoma72> I solved the problem of the old fastboot command, sudo apt-get install fastboot (new version fastboot), sudo apt-get install android-tools-fastboot (old version fastboot)
[07:47] <Mrokii> Hello. I'm using Kubuntu 16.04 and would like to know if there'll soon be a way to install Plasma 5.8.x on it. Any thoughts?
 For what I have read it's dificult, since an update to qt is also required
[08:09] <hateball> Mrokii: acheronuk may know, or someone in #kubuntu-devel in general
[08:14] <acheronuk> Getting plasma 5.8 into the new development release 17.04, then backporting to stable releases is something we wish to do as soon as is practical. As said, it requires an update to Qt which is non-trivial to provide in our ppas as we have to ensure we don't break non kubuntu/kde things that depend on an older version
[08:16] <hateball> acheronuk: so 5.8 didnt make it into 16.10 ?
[08:16] <hateball> (I havent been keeping up)
[08:20] <acheronuk> hateball: nope. release date was just to close to yakkety final release date. we were already in feature freeze and simply not enough time to get it done and tested, even on a last minute freeze exception
[08:22] <Mrokii> So I guess I'll just have to wait and see. :)
[08:22] <acheronuk> I/we want to see it as much as anyone else, so hope it won't be too long
[08:25] <hateball> acheronuk: alright!
[09:02] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:44] <hiemz> hello
[10:45] <BluesKaj> hi
[10:50] <BluesKaj> !sasl
[10:51] <BuddyButterfly> hi
[10:52] <BuddyButterfly> I have upgraded to Kubuntu 16.04. I configured the taskbar to be on the left side. Issue now is that making windows full size that the left side of the windows go behind task bar. Settings of taskbar is to always show.
[10:53] <BuddyButterfly> is this a bug?
[12:02] <jubo2> Kubuntu Kubuntu?
[12:03] <jubo2> Gib October edition awesome  download linky URL
[12:03] <jubo2> That or I go search engine it. And in plain English: Is it out yet?
[12:04] <jubo2> 15.10 -> 16.04 was awesome. Good work you who did it
[13:10] <chcknrub> is kde 5.8 lts released for 16.04 already?
[13:10] <chcknrub> is kde 5.8 lts released for 16.04 already?
[13:10] <chcknrub> is kde 5.8 lts released for 16.04 already?
[13:10] <chcknrub> is kde 5.8 lts released for 16.04 already?
[13:10] <chcknrub> is kde 5.8 lts released for 16.04 already?
[13:17] <ikonia> chcknrub: well, that worked out well for you
[13:18] <fml> 16.10 has been out
[13:19] <forgeaus> whats going on with wine packages in trusty
[13:19] <forgeaus> it doesn't like me
[13:22] <forgeaus> firstly one of the wine packages asked for winei386 but it only has wineamd64 as a package (the amd64 one would suit me fine but the wine package doesn't seem to know it...) then if I try using the wine64 package it asks for wine(any) which can't be met ??? can it?
[13:22] <forgeaus> its like a catch 22
[16:23] <kris> Hello you buch of cock sucking motherfuckers
[16:24] <Mrokii> Hello. I've tried to upgrade a Kubuntu 16.04-installation to 16.10 but I geet a message that a file named "fetch-progress.ui" is missing. Any thoughts an how to solve that problem?
[16:24] <Not_a_Robot> guys, where are source files stored in Ubuntu, please?
[16:25] <marco-parillo> In bzr via launchpad.net?
[16:26] <Not_a_Robot> i mean from C libraries
[16:27] <BluesKaj> Mrokii, run, sudo dpkg --configure -a , then, sudo apt  -f install, in the terminal
[16:29] <Mrokii> BluesKaj: Doesn't help as it seems. I basically get the message that there's nothing to upgrade after using these commands.
[16:29] <acheronuk> Mrokii: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=fetch-progress.ui&mode=exactfilename&suite=xenial&arch=any
[16:30] <acheronuk> so i would check that is installed 1st off
[16:31] <Mrokii> acheronuk: I'll check.
[16:33] <acheronuk> Not_a_Robot: source packages are in the archive. you can add/enable source repos for you system to download them
[16:34] <Mrokii> acheronuk: installing the missing package seems to have helped. The Upgrade-process started. Thanks.
[16:35] <acheronuk> Mrokii: good :)
[17:20] <HakanS> I can't find any release not for Kubuntu 16.10
[17:20] <HakanS> ... release note ...
[17:20] <Smurphy> not out yet apparently.
[17:21] <HakanS> 16.10 is out.
[17:22] <ilhami> no way :D
[17:22] <ilhami> but it's not LTS though
[17:23] <Smurphy> yep. Indeed.
[17:24] <acheronuk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[17:24] <acheronuk> ^^^^ still needs some tweaking on the notes
[17:44] <fml> what should i do if i removed the sources.list file
[17:44] <acheronuk> put it back
[17:45] <fml> how?
[17:46] <fml> i messed with software and updates
[17:47] <fml> i have 16.10 ubuntu with kde
[17:47] <fml> recently upgraded from 16.04 ubuntu with kde
[17:52] <acheronuk> fml. sorry. got distracted.
[17:56] <acheronuk> what version are you on? someone may well be able to pastebin their sources.list
[18:03] <fml> i guess i repaired sources well
[18:06] <gewew> Hey, I'm am a novice in linux and I am wondering if someone can advise me
[18:06] <gewew> I have been playing around with several distros for a while and I think that I would like to settle on kubuntu
[18:06] <gewew> I haven't seen anything interesting in the 16.10 release notes
[18:07] <gewew> Would it be crazy if I use the older 16.04 version so that I don't have to update quite so often?
[18:08] <fml> why is it crazy?
[18:08] <fml> u can use even 14.04
[18:08] <fml> or 12.04
[18:08] <fml> but check is this version supporting
[18:09] <Mrokii> gewew: If you're happy with 16.04, there's no need to update.
[18:09] <gewew> is the upgraded kernel important?
[18:10] <fml> isnt the kernel upgrading in 16.04?
[18:10] <Mrokii> gewew: 16.04 is a long term release so you will get updates for a while, most probably including the kernel. I get kernel updates on my 16.04 installation every once in a while.
[18:10] <gewew> 16.04 is 4.4 but 16.10 is 4.8
[18:11] <gewew> so if I can upgrade the kernel, firefox, libraoffice, etc by myself. What is the point of updating to 16.10?
[18:12] <Mrokii> Well, one thing is that quite a lot of system files and utilities are updated without the need of additional repositories.
[18:13] <Mrokii> I'm not expert enough to know if you can update to the latest kernel easily or at all, but the question is if there's a big problem with not upgrading, and currently I don't see anything that would make an upgrade necessary.
[18:13] <gewew> so what you're saying is that along with what is listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes , the new version also updates a lot of small things?
[18:14] <gewew> but nothing is that urgent (such as security fixes)
[18:15] <Mrokii> exactly my point. You can upgrade if you want to, but currently I don't see anything that would make an upgrade a necessity.
[18:16] <gewew> thanks
[18:16] <Mrokii> I've just upgraded a laptop to 16.10 without problems, but I still have a desktop PC which I will keep 16.04 for a while. As 16.04 is a long term release version, I assume there there'll be a updates (including security) for quite a while. So no need to hurry.
[18:18] <gewew> one more thing
[18:18] <gewew> can i update to plasma 5.8 on 16.04?
[18:18] <Mrokii> gewew: Not yet I think. I've asked the same. :)
[18:18] <Mrokii> We'll have to wait and see. :)
[18:19] <gewew> okay, thanks a lot
[18:19] <Mrokii> np. :)
[18:20] <Mrokii> gewew: If I remember right I updated my Desktop to 5.7 some time ago via some backports-repository. So maybe the same will happen with 5.8 sometime in the future.
[18:21] <gewew> @Mrokii I hope so ... this is all new to me
[18:22] <Mrokii> gewew: And there's another point. Although the last upgrades to (K)ubuntu have been quite stable, there have been issues in the past. So my personal rule is to wait at least some days before upgrading my work-computer, so that the most pressing issues (if there are any) are gone.
[18:23] <gewew> how do I address someone, like what you did?
[18:23] <BluesKaj> some use the point release date for upgrading their work computers
[18:24] <Mrokii> gewew: Address someone? Like using their nick? I'm using weechat and all I have to do is to type somebodies' nickname (or typing part of it and using Tab to autocomplete it).
[18:25] <gewew> Mrokii: test
[18:25] <Mrokii> gewew: It worked. :)
[18:25] <gewew> Mrokii: Great
[18:26] <Mrokii> BluesKaj: That's another possibility, but I'm usually too curious to wait that long. :D
[18:26] <BluesKaj> Mrokii, adventurous :-)
[18:27] <Mrokii> BluesKaj: Just not enough patience. :)
[18:28] <BluesKaj> think I received all the YY upgrades yesterday, none so far today
[19:05] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: hey there
[19:05] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: I had a lovely discussion with the folks at #kde-neon
[19:05] <EvilRoey> what do you think of Neon vis-a-vis Kubuntu?
[19:07] <ahoneybun> EvilRoey: vs ?
[19:07] <EvilRoey> not vs
[19:08] <EvilRoey> like where Neon fits into Kubuntu's landscape as an independent project, because it is important to follow as it is issued from the KDE develoers yet in my mind this may lead to duplicaed work
[19:08] <EvilRoey> ahoneybun: ^
[19:08] <ahoneybun> no one is issued from KDE
[19:08] <ahoneybun> we both package the KDE
[19:08] <ahoneybun> KDE's wonderful software
[19:09] <EvilRoey> right
[19:09] <EvilRoey> I mean that Neon devs do that too
[19:09] <ahoneybun> KDE Neon is more of a rolling release while we stick to Ubuntu's 6 month cycle
[19:09] <EvilRoey> anyway I am in #kde-neon
[19:09] <EvilRoey> ok
[19:09] <ahoneybun> as am I
[19:09] <EvilRoey> and how do you reduce duplicated work?
[19:10] <ahoneybun> we work together when possible
 @ahoneybun, and will do more so I hope
[19:11] <ahoneybun> though duplicated work is one downside of Open Source
[19:11] <EvilRoey> ok.  where can I see this chronicled?  Notes after sprint sessions maybe?
[19:11] <EvilRoey> ah
[19:11] <ahoneybun> IRC logs
[19:11] <EvilRoey> ahhhh ok
 @Mrokii, Same here, normaly i'm at +1 for my eveday computer
[19:11] <ahoneybun> acheronuk: what?
[19:11] <EvilRoey> who are the big nmaes here and in Neon
[19:11] <EvilRoey> besides I mean Riddell
[19:12] <ahoneybun> big names?
[19:12] <EvilRoey> who is in Neon exclusively
[19:12] <EvilRoey> I mean the leaders ofthe projects
 @ahoneybun, work more together.
[19:12] <ahoneybun> Well we have the Kubuntu Council that guides the projects
[19:12] <EvilRoey> ok
[19:12] <ahoneybun> though we don't really have just 1 or 2 people in charge
[19:12] <EvilRoey> IrcsomeBot: heh
[19:12] <EvilRoey> ahoneybun: and how do you liase with Neon?
[19:13] <ahoneybun> more of a "Just Do It"
[19:13] <ahoneybun> kinda community here
[19:13] <EvilRoey> like is there anything where Kubuntu and Neon diverge?
[19:13] <EvilRoey> besides KDE libraries
[19:13] <ahoneybun> well they just make what updates they want to their packages
[19:13] <EvilRoey> right
[19:13] <ahoneybun> whenever while we have to ask to update as we might break another Flavour
[19:13] <Mrokii> IrcsomeBot: +1?
[19:14] <EvilRoey> ok but nothing like systemd vs. rc.init
[19:14] <ahoneybun> no we both have systemd as we are based on Ubuntu
[19:14] <EvilRoey> ok
[19:14] <ahoneybun> 16.04 +
[19:14] <ahoneybun> we just put out our 16.10 release today though
[19:14] <EvilRoey> but is there any other issue liek that where we could expect things to diverge
[19:14] <EvilRoey> ahh cool
[19:14] <ahoneybun> that's why Neon can have 5.8.1 already as they don't need to ask permission to update packages
[19:14] <EvilRoey> aye
[19:14] <EvilRoey> neat :)
[19:15] <EvilRoey> ok, I'm heading out of the office
[19:15] <ahoneybun> well our package sets are different as they are more developer focused
[19:15] <EvilRoey> see you soon, I'll probably be at home
[19:15] <ahoneybun> as we are more community
[19:15] <EvilRoey> aye
[19:15] <ahoneybun> works out the box
[19:15] <EvilRoey> alright ahoneybun, see ya in a bit!
[19:15] <ahoneybun> sea
[19:17] <hippybear> I just upgraded two days ago
[19:17] <hippybear> love the new look
 @Mrokii, If it's for my comment, i've been in 16.10 since early june, with proposed repos enabled. Can't wait to update to 17.04 in about a week :)
 I would disable those PPA's first
[19:21] <Mrokii> IrcsomeBot: I see. Are these releases stable enough to work with?
[19:27] <drostie> Just wanted to pop in and say congrats on 16.10!
[19:27] <ahoneybun> thanks drostie!
[19:30] <drostie> Yay, the work firewall is letting me seed it back to the swarm.
 @drostie, Thank you. :)
[19:45] <shaver> Hi. How is everyone doing today?
[19:45] <shaver> The food is called pre-process food.
[19:46] <hippybear> doing better than the flood victims on the east coast
[19:46] <hippybear> getting ready for a nice early winter storm that about to knock out power for a few days here
[19:46] <hippybear> life is gud
[19:47] <shaver> East cost is victimized by the flood every year. I thought the football players were going to take it straight instead of hooking up the east coast.
[19:48] <shaver> Life is ok here too, in the SW. We are missing raing this year.
[19:48] <ahoneybun> heyo can you please move this to #kubuntu-offtopic please :)
[19:48] <shaver> We are missing rain this year.
[19:48] <ahoneybun> this is for support and questions
[19:48] <hippybear> yus
[19:49] <hippybear> I could use some support
[19:49] <hippybear> :(
[19:49] <hippybear> jk
[19:49] <shaver> Hi my Honey, I am having problem with KDE. Can you help?
[19:50] <hippybear> whats the issue?
[19:50] <shaver> I seem to not be able to install Apps with plasma-discover as admin.
[19:51] <hippybear> have you tried doing it as root?
[19:51] <hippybear> :P
[19:51] <shaver> my honey, I tried sudo && I tried su -c... && I tried clicking the icon. Nothing work.
[19:51] <shaver> Yes. I tried root.
[19:51] <hippybear> this is getting weird 0.o
[19:52] <shaver> I tried logging in as root. I tried using KDE GUI && tried terminal.
 You should not log in at root though
[19:53] <shaver> I'm trying everything. It might be better for something so I can install.
[19:53] <hippybear> if I run plasma-discover I get something like muon so I can install things, do you get an error?
[19:54] <shaver> It gives me an error even when I use root access.
[19:54] <hippybear> you should never run apps as root
[19:54] <shaver> OK.. ok... Let me give you the message.
[19:54] <hippybear> sweet
[19:55] <shaver> Hi Rick. it says, " This operation cannot continue since prper author. was not provided."
[19:55] <shaver> prper = proper please
[19:56] <hippybear> that doesnt seem like the correct system message
[19:56] <hippybear> authorization?
[19:56] <shaver> I know. I've been using linux since 1999. I'm not sure where it's coming from.
[19:57] <hippybear> then why are you running plasma
[19:57] <shaver> Actually, 1996. Eric got me started on Linux.
[19:57] <hippybear> dont you know we all hate plasma?!?
[19:57] <shaver> Yes/No? I don't like plasma shots either. I do like KDE 5.x
[19:58] <hippybear> I think I was around that year too, I installed my first Ubuntu during dapper drake
 Plasma 5 is quite nice
[19:58] <BluesKaj> speak for yourself hippybear ,can't run kde without plasma  now
[19:58] <shaver> I installed Slackware 1.x
[19:59] <hippybear> dont you know I personally hate plasma?!? / Anything that consumes CPU for no reason
[19:59] <shaver> Between full time school & full time work. It took me almost 2 weeks to install slackware 1.x. I had to look for hardware info.
[19:59] <hippybear> Why do you need a tiny cute clock? Too lazy to look at a wall?
[19:59] <hippybear> I digest
[19:59] <shaver> hippy&bear, I just bought a new GPU. It's Radeon RX 460 with vr. This is why I was upgrading.
 We have always had Plasma
[20:01] <shaver> I was installing Linux Upgrade since the Radeon rX 460 is a new product, just came out. Need new drivers for it to max the I candy for KDE.
[20:01] <hippybear> I always deleted them on install lol
[20:01] <shaver> My CPU is always below 25%.
[20:02] <shaver> My CPU is a 6 pack. 6-cores.
[20:02] <hippybear> Mine never even comes on
[20:02] <hippybear> its i9000
[20:03] <shaver> i9000 sounds ok, Great!
[20:03] <shaver> I was hoping that my GPU would do most of the work.
[20:03] <hippybear> its made up tho
[20:03] <hippybear> I run a comodore :(
[20:04] <shaver> commodores are OK, too. We had Omega then commodore then as I got older, we got an Amiga
[20:05] <hippybear> I need to get back to coding
[20:05] <hippybear> this is off topic af
[20:05] <hippybear> :)
[20:05] <shaver> I still have a heavy box full of Amiga apps && games.
[20:05] <shaver> ok.
[20:05] <shaver> I'll just try to reinstall. 2nd time is the charm as they say.
[20:05] <shaver> Thanks.
[20:56] <penelopa> Hello all! I have problem with Kubuntu 16.10. For my KDE work only with kernel 4.4.0-43. With kernel 4.8.0-22 not work. Please submitting bug report for developers.
[21:00] <penelopa> Kernel 4.8.0-22 not korrect work for my i960 chipset. Please report bug. KDE not work.
[21:36] <mgolden_> penelopa: Isn't that a rather old machine?
[21:37] <mgolden_> penelopa: I don't think the kernel choice is really Kubuntu's to make - it's global to all of Ubuntu
[21:59] <tyrog> Is there a GUI for changing the system language on Kubuntu like it does exist for Ubuntu with Unity? Thanks everyone
[22:02] <hippybear> System Settings > Appearance > Fonts
[22:02] <hippybear> Oh language
[22:02] <tyrog> hippybear: Yes, language :D
[22:03] <hippybear> System Settings > Regional Settings
[22:05] <tyrog> hippybear: Unfortunately I don't think that module installs the respective language packages :(. Alternative?
[22:05] <hippybear> What language do you need?
[22:07] <hippybear> sudo apt-get install gnome-language-selector
[22:07] <hippybear> bam!
[22:09] <tyrog> hippybear: On KDE too?
[22:09] <hippybear> Seems so
[22:10] <hippybear> run that, select langs, reboot, profit
[22:36] <hippybear> I am a blind guy, when I click the accessability thing in the tray and it offers a screen reader I enable that and then it does nothing :| how do I make it read things?
[23:51] <user|30226> bit of a random question, does anyone know if kubuntu has drivers for a 2-in-1?
[23:52] <wardred> It really depends on the 2-in-1.  It'd be best to lookup specific systems and see what people have reported.
[23:53] <user|30226> thanks
[23:57] <wardred> Be careful doing your research.  Depending on how makes them and how many options they have, you could have different chipsets for the wifi or bluetooth, different cameras, etc.  Since everything tends to be integrated, you have to find one where all the components work.  (Or the ones you care about.)  It's not like a desktop where you can choose a different mobo/chipset, different video card, and if you have to, an expansion card
[23:57] <wardred> that works better than the weird built in component X.
[23:57] <wardred> * - on who
[23:58] <Kubuntu_new> a quick look doesn't give me much on toughbooks.
[23:59] <Kubuntu_new> I have an old cf-18 mk4 and nothing specific pops up with similar keywords