| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 04:54 |
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| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: ! we be here, you be here .. all better now . | 04:56 |
| lotuspsychje | hey there Bashing-om | 04:56 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: all ok on your side of the world? | 04:56 |
| Bashing-om | Uh huh .. Got my SSD in .. now will busy for a while installing a new 16.04 . | 04:58 |
| lotuspsychje | cool! wich brand Bashing-om ? | 04:58 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: I went with a Samsung 850 EVO 250GB . | 05:03 |
| lotuspsychje | nice nice | 05:03 |
| lotuspsychje | ssd's and ubuntu are such a great couple | 05:04 |
| Bashing-om | My ole ATI card's fan has failed .. box overheats . also got a nVidia EVGA GeForce GT 710 card to replace it ! | 05:06 |
| lotuspsychje | ouch | 05:07 |
| lotuspsychje | my old ati x800 still rocknrolls after all these years | 05:08 |
| lotuspsychje | and xenial loves the card aswell | 05:09 |
| Bashing-om | So in a short while, I look forward to a whole new experience with this ole box . | 05:09 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: yeah ssd will turbo it | 05:09 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: dont forget to install preload after, works like a charm | 05:10 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: preload ?? 1st I am aware . | 05:11 |
| lotuspsychje | and some great tweaks for ssd like swappiness=10 | 05:11 |
| lotuspsychje | !info preload | 05:11 |
| ubot5 | preload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-2 (xenial), package size 34 kB, installed size 135 kB | 05:11 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: when your ssd is placed, lemme know we go over it togheter if you like | 05:12 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: preload does look interesting .. I like ! .. will be a while building 16.04 and getting irssi running on it . | 05:13 |
| lotuspsychje | okay tyt | 05:13 |
| lotuspsychje | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/10/wire-for-linux-beta-desktop-available | 05:19 |
| lotuspsychje | interesting! | 05:19 |
| Bashing-om | Putting skype in it's place ( behind us ) ?? | 05:21 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah alot of issues on skype lately | 05:22 |
| lotuspsychje | time for new alternatives | 05:22 |
| lotuspsychje | i hoped telegram came with videochat.. | 05:23 |
| Bashing-om | Boggels the mind what all the technology is comming up with . We can do it . | 05:25 |
| lotuspsychje | linux has plenty | 05:27 |
| lotuspsychje | laterz guys, breakfast | 05:54 |
| ducasse | morning all | 06:31 |
| Bashing-om | ducasse: o/ ..... | 06:34 |
| ducasse | not in bed yet, Bashing-om? :) | 06:35 |
| Bashing-om | Headed that way .,. eyes crossing, and mind is a muddle . main is now in good hands . | 06:36 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 09:02 |
| ducasse | wb BluesKaj | 09:03 |
| BluesKaj | Hi ducasse | 09:03 |
| OerHeks | Hi guys | 09:04 |
| ducasse | quiet today, mainly a lot of people asking if 16.10 is out | 09:04 |
| BluesKaj | of course, it's the usual | 09:05 |
| OerHeks | quiet is good. | 09:05 |
| ducasse | OerHeks: +1 on that | 09:05 |
| BluesKaj | suppose there's a release party chat setup | 09:06 |
| ducasse | BluesKaj: #ubuntu-release-party | 09:06 |
| BluesKaj | right | 09:07 |
| BluesKaj | it's usually a bit silly ...a so called online party :-) | 09:10 |
| BluesKaj | IMO | 09:11 |
| OerHeks | Americans call it a dutch party | 09:13 |
| OerHeks | grinn | 09:13 |
| OerHeks | bring-your-own-iso | 09:13 |
| BluesKaj | a friend is very ill and I wasn't able to sleep much ...it's 5AM here, but I'm up anyway | 09:14 |
| pauljw | hi everyone | 10:59 |
| === daftykin1 is now known as daftykins | ||
| OerHeks | hi paul | 11:02 |
| ducasse | \o pauljw | 11:02 |
| * daftykins waves too, having snuck in whilst nobody was watching | 11:03 | |
| ducasse | daftykins is also wb :) | 11:05 |
| daftykins | :D ty | 11:05 |
| pauljw | hi ducasse | 11:07 |
| pauljw | OerHeks, | 11:07 |
| brushdemon | (:DDD) | 13:37 |
| daftykins | o0 | 13:37 |
| xcy | not sure if I'm in the wrong place, but I'm just wondering when 16.10 is going to be released? | 14:44 |
| daftykins | yes you're in the wrong place | 14:45 |
| daftykins | i already see images up, not sure why the site hasn't changed | 14:45 |
| * OerHeks is seeding iso's already | 14:46 | |
| xcy | found the .torrent... thanks | 14:52 |
| daftykins | xcy: bear in mind life is better on LTS releases though. | 14:55 |
| xcy | how is it better? | 14:59 |
| daftykins | supported longer, because as the name implies it's a Long Term Support release. | 15:00 |
| ducasse | a do-release-upgrade every 6 months is the perfect tempo for me, personally | 15:02 |
| nacc | ducasse: ack, it's good for many; but also bad for many more (IMO), based upon the number of people that come into #ubuntu saying -- why can't i upgrade my EOL version :) | 15:03 |
| daftykins | i think people try to claim upgrades go well, but i don't believe in them whatsoever, i bring up machines in parallel with a clean install then migrate their tasks over once they're confirmed working | 15:05 |
| ducasse | nacc: absolutely, and i fully get that. that tempo is also one of the main reasons i use ubuntu instead of something else. | 15:06 |
| xcy | I'm not running this on a server... | 15:06 |
| nacc | daftykins: it all depends, which is probably the biggest issue. I have one box i've upgraded since 8.04 to current | 15:06 |
| xcy | I've been using Ubuntu since 8.04. | 15:06 |
| daftykins | nacc: sounds horrible | 15:07 |
| nacc | daftykins: well, I imagine it would be; except I rarely (maybe only at the very beginning, when I didn't know as well and upgraded too early) had any issues | 15:07 |
| ducasse | i kind of hope this upgrade fails, as i'm curious how well btrfs snapshot rollback works :) | 15:26 |
| OerHeks | why would it fail ? ow btrfs, not zfs? | 15:29 |
| ducasse | OerHeks: i was just joking :) why btrfs? because zfs is not supported for /, and this desktop is non-critical for me. | 15:31 |
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| lotuspsychje | good evening to all | 16:40 |
| ducasse | good afternoon lotuspsychje :) | 16:44 |
| lotuspsychje | hey there ducasse | 16:44 |
| daftykins | \o | 16:45 |
| lotuspsychje | hey hey daftykins :p | 16:45 |
| daftykins | ^_^ | 16:45 |
| lotuspsychje | playing with http://iconmonstr.com/collections/ | 16:46 |
| lotuspsychje | grab those i will use and mail them to my admin | 16:46 |
| daftykins | :> | 16:51 |
| lotuspsychje | !yakkety | 16:52 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Read the release notes at https://ubottu.com/y/yakkety | 16:52 |
| lotuspsychje | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/10/download-ubuntu-16-10-new-features | 16:53 |
| daftykins | all the cool kids use LTS ;) | 16:57 |
| lotuspsychje | they sure do :p | 16:58 |
| lotuspsychje | anyone know howto list only snaps in ubuntu software? | 16:58 |
| daftykins | < imexil> Hi, just tried to run upgrade to 16.10 and I'm getting "Your python install is corrupted. Please fix | 17:04 |
| daftykins | the '/usr/bin/python' symlink." from the update-manager. I've already tried "apt install --reinstall | 17:04 |
| daftykins | python" (and python3) but nothing helped. Any other suggestions? | 17:04 |
| daftykins | first victim | 17:04 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 17:05 |
| lotuspsychje | http://www.datamation.com/open-source/7-mistakes-new-linux-users-make.html | 17:30 |
| daftykins | ooh that's an amusing title | 17:34 |
| lotuspsychje | heh | 17:35 |
| daftykins | Krita o0 not heard of that one | 17:35 |
| lotuspsychje | !info krita | 17:35 |
| ubot5 | krita (source: calligra): pixel-based image manipulation program for the Calligra Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.9.7-0ubuntu12 (xenial), package size 7975 kB, installed size 31997 kB | 17:35 |
| lotuspsychje | also as a snap | 17:36 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome | 17:38 |
| Mkll | Hi. | 17:38 |
| lotuspsychje | Mkll: wich issue did you hear about mint? | 17:38 |
| Mkll | That it was insecure compared to other distros based on Debian | 17:38 |
| Mkll | or Ubuntu. | 17:38 |
| lotuspsychje | Mkll: there were recently mint iso's hacked so i read | 17:39 |
| daftykins | yep | 17:40 |
| Mkll | That problem has been solved already, but people are still quick to disregard Mint as a viable choice because they "hold critical security updates" | 17:40 |
| daftykins | there's just no point running Mint. | 17:40 |
| lotuspsychje | Mkll: i wouldnt touch mint neither | 17:42 |
| lotuspsychje | but many swear by it...thats the people's choice of freedom right | 17:42 |
| Mkll | But Mint uses Ubuntu for its updates and repos, so isn't it just as safe as Ubuntu spins | 17:42 |
| lotuspsychje | Mkll: best case is to test distro's yourself and compare what you like best? | 17:42 |
| daftykins | Mkll: no | 17:44 |
| daftykins | Mint holds back security updates | 17:44 |
| Mkll | Couldn't I use apt? | 17:44 |
| daftykins | for what... | 17:45 |
| daftykins | just don' run Mint, it's simple | 17:45 |
| lotuspsychje | Mkll: vanilla ubuntu rescued many users life indeed :p | 17:50 |
| lotuspsychje | Mkll: your in the ubuntu channels, so we strongly advice ubuntu | 17:50 |
| Mkll | Well anyway | 17:51 |
| daftykins | you won't get very good community help with Mint | 17:51 |
| Mkll | is Xubuntu or Ubuntu Mate lighter. | 17:51 |
| Mkll | Which one is lighter* | 17:51 |
| daftykins | about the same i think | 17:51 |
| ducasse | Mkll: one reason some of us dislike mint is because they provide poor support (compared to ubuntu), so their users often use ubuntu channels. which is problematic, as mint changes things. | 17:51 |
| Mkll | I install Lubuntu on netbooks, but I want to choose something lighter then Unity and prettier then LXDE for a main OS. | 17:52 |
| daftykins | are you honestly talking about netbooks even now? | 17:52 |
| daftykins | because nothing will run well on them, they need to be retired. | 17:52 |
| Mkll | When I say netbooks, I also include older laptops from 2003. | 17:52 |
| lotuspsychje | Mkll: try lubuntu 16.04, works like a charm | 17:53 |
| dax | Xubuntu | 17:53 |
| daftykins | it has to be a netbook to be called a netbook ;) | 17:53 |
| lotuspsychje | dax: can you change !unity8 trigger to 16.10 now instead of the lxc test method? | 18:01 |
| dax | !unity8 | 18:03 |
| ubot5 | Unity8 is the next Unity Desktop running on Mir. It is already used on the smartphones running ubuntu-touch (!touch) and can be tested on the Desktop with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8inLXC | 18:03 |
| dax | lotuspsychje: just changing "with https://whatever" to "in 16.10"? | 18:03 |
| lotuspsychje | dax: unity8 should be default now in 16.10 at login | 18:04 |
| ducasse | no, it's not. | 18:04 |
| lotuspsychje | but not yet ready | 18:04 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: howso? | 18:04 |
| lotuspsychje | i mean default to test? | 18:05 |
| ducasse | not the default session, if that was what you meant. | 18:05 |
| lotuspsychje | yes your right | 18:05 |
| lotuspsychje | but you can choose it right? | 18:05 |
| lotuspsychje | no extra things to install to login unity8 | 18:06 |
| ducasse | i think so, but i haven't installed from the desktop images in a long time tbh | 18:06 |
| lotuspsychje | dax: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/10/unity-8-desktop-session-ubuntu-1610 | 18:07 |
| dax | so the change I said above works? | 18:07 |
| lotuspsychje | dax: yes on desktop 16.10 | 18:08 |
| dax | !-unity8 | 18:08 |
| ubot5 | unity8 has no aliases - added by k1l_ on 2016-02-24 22:07:03 - last edited by dax on 2016-02-24 22:08:48 | 18:08 |
| dax | !unity8 =~ s/with.*$/in 16.10 by selecting it on the login screen/ | 18:09 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 18:09 |
| dax | oh. right. not ubottu. sigh. | 18:09 |
| dax | !unity8 | 18:09 |
| ubot5 | Unity8 is the next Unity Desktop running on Mir. It is already used on the smartphones running ubuntu-touch (!touch) and can be tested on the Desktop in 16.10 by selecting it on the login screen | 18:09 |
| daftykins | lots of bots and lots of channels :) | 18:09 |
| lotuspsychje | tnx dax | 18:09 |
| dax | np | 18:09 |
| lotuspsychje | think nobody will mess with 14.04 and the lxc method anymore now yakkety released | 18:11 |
| lotuspsychje | !17.04 | 18:17 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 18:17 |
| dax | hehe | 18:17 |
| lotuspsychje | bit more patient | 18:17 |
| lotuspsychje | codename will be born when exactly? | 18:18 |
| daftykins | usually takes a few days doesn't it? | 18:18 |
| lotuspsychje | XX | 18:19 |
| ducasse | yes, it's usually announced within a couple of days after a release | 18:19 |
| lotuspsychje | nice | 18:20 |
| lotuspsychje | hey BluesKaj | 18:20 |
| BluesKaj | hi lotuspsychje | 18:20 |
| lotuspsychje | !info gthumb | 18:34 |
| ubot5 | gthumb (source: gthumb): image viewer and browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:3.4.3-1 (xenial), package size 914 kB, installed size 3378 kB | 18:34 |
| lotuspsychje | laterz guys, movietime | 19:29 |
| ducasse | ok, enjoy lotuspsychje! | 19:30 |
| lotuspsychje | laterzz | 19:30 |
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