[03:13] <cc> i found that,"chatter"is not good for using on ubuntu phone
[07:02] <kaisoz> hi there
[10:40] <Mirv> davmor2: btw I still didn't find how in uNav I'd download offline maps from the UI :) I've now eg simulated routing visible but can't see a way to download maps
[10:43] <davmor2> Mirv: you're right it does need a pc there are instruction if you select offline maps I thought that had been updated though sorry :(
[10:44] <Mirv> davmor2: ah, ok good that I won't spend more time trying to find it out :) yeah, I'm familiar in pc downloading since Openmoko times (before switching to vector graphics based apps)
[11:16] <oSoMoN> willcooke, I commented on bug #1632620
[11:17]  * willcooke checks
[11:18] <willcooke> oSoMoN, that better not be a Rick Astley video
[11:21] <willcooke> oSoMoN, how do I run that qml?  I tried from terminal in u8 and it's moaning about connection to mir failed
[11:21] <oSoMoN> it isn’t, but I was tempted :)
[11:22] <oSoMoN> willcooke, ah, you probably need to trick mir by using the --desktop_file_hint parameter
[11:22] <oSoMoN> try "qmlscene --desktop_file_hint=unity8 test.qml"
[11:22] <davmor2> willcooke: it's worse than that he's dead jim
[11:23] <willcooke> oSoMoN, works, and I have sound too
[11:23] <oSoMoN> willcooke, good, so it’s just the browser
[11:24] <oSoMoN> most likely an apparmor denial
[11:24] <oSoMoN> willcooke, can you check apparmor denials in syslog when attempting to play sound in the browser?
[11:27] <willcooke> oSoMoN, got some, shall I paste in to the bug?
[11:32]  * willcooke does anyway
[11:35] <oSoMoN> willcooke, thanks
[11:35] <willcooke> thanks for looking at it
[11:37] <oSoMoN> willcooke, nothing relevant in those denials unfortunately
[11:38] <oSoMoN> willcooke, can other apps play sound (e.g. music app, if it works at all on desktop)?
[11:38] <willcooke> oSoMoN, yeah
[11:40] <oSoMoN> om26er, you mentioned you didn’t have sound in the browser on yakkety, right? you might want to mark yourself affected by bug #1632620
[12:41] <bloodnexus> hello who can help me with instructions ?
[12:41] <bloodnexus> i want to install ubuntu touch on nexus 5
[14:40] <kaisoz> hi
[14:55] <matv1> kaisoz hi if you want to ask a question, just ask. If someone can answer, they will respond
[14:55] <kaisoz> I was about to ask something.. but I just solved it. Thank you anyway :)
[14:57] <matv1> kaisoz haha ok np
[14:59] <dobey> matv1: btw, we already have a bot for !ask :)
[15:01] <matv1> i know i forgot dobey :)
[16:11] <vigo_3> hi vigo
[17:09] <first_touch> any videos available showing the latest features of ubuntu touch?
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> first_touch: check youtube for OTA 13?
[17:13] <first_touch> cannot find any of decent quality
[17:13] <first_touch> I will have to try emulator
[17:13] <first_touch> :(
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> first_touch: can this help? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/09/ubuntu-phone-ota-13-new-features
[17:20] <first_touch> Yeah thats alright, how is performance these days? I watched a video and the phone crashed going into landscape mode.
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> first_touch: on wich device?
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> never had any crash on my bq 4.5 here
[17:21] <first_touch> it was an older video so I assume most issues have been fixed
[17:21] <first_touch> have you used desktop mode?
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> first_touch: you mean convergence?
[17:24] <first_touch> yeah
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> not yet myself
[21:58] <Acou_Bass> eey guys, im planning to switch my phone back to ubuntu touch after a bit of a hiatus, does anyone have an IRC client recommendation (for mobile usage rather than convergence/desktop usage)? i had a quick look on uappexplorer and didnt see any that looked like theyd work for me but figured id ask in case ive missed anything :P
[21:59] <mcphail> Acou_Bass: I haven't found anything brilliant. I'm still SSH'ing into my home server running irssi on screen
[22:00] <Acou_Bass> fair enough, i do have weechat setup in a screen sesh already so ill probably use that as a stop-gap
[22:00] <Acou_Bass> i noticed theres a quassel client for ubuntu touch but doesnt look like it supports standalone, needs a server to hook up to
[22:00] <Acou_Bass> shame because it looks pretty slick :P
[22:01] <mcphail> Acou_Bass: I have a quassel server you can run on the phone, but the client doesn't seem to work properly
[22:02] <Acou_Bass> ahh
[22:02] <mcphail> I keep meaning to make a Glowing Bear app to link to weechat
[22:03] <mcphail> So many projects, so little time...
[22:03] <Acou_Bass> there already is one in uapp but it needs SSL setup - i actually have a glowing-bear app stored somewhere on my PC that doesnt need the SSL
[22:04] <Acou_Bass> my only thing with that is im running my weechat on a home connection and so dont wanna be opening too many router ports, so ideally need one that can either run through SSH or via my ZNC bouncer ;D
[22:04] <mcphail> Acou_Bass: It should be possible to run weechat "headless" on the phone and have glowing bear connect to it as a GUI
[22:05] <Acou_Bass> ahhh true
[22:05] <mcphail> Acou_Bass: I haven't experimented with it yet, though
[22:05] <Acou_Bass> thats a pretty good idea actually, i like it
[22:05] <Acou_Bass> assuming it works of course ;D
[22:05] <Acou_Bass> no reason it shouldnt though eh
[22:05] <mcphail> Indeed :)
[22:06] <mcphail> I'm hoping the quassel client app gets updated. Would save me the hassle of looking at any other solutions
[22:06] <Acou_Bass> hows ubuntu touch for if you need to run something, say, in a screen session? will it keep it alive if you disconnect freom screen?
[22:06] <mcphail> No. You need to hack things a bit
[22:06] <Acou_Bass> ahh
[22:07] <mcphail> You can run a "server" app in the background if it doesn't spawn a GUI, but it is a terrible user experience. See my "syncthing" app on the store
[22:08] <mcphail> My quasselcore server does the same thing
[22:08] <Acou_Bass> ahh
[22:08] <Acou_Bass> yeah ive looked at the syncthing app
[22:08] <Acou_Bass> probably gonna have to install it too, as i depend on syncthing a fair bit ;D
[22:09] <mcphail> If you connect via the web frontend, the experience is OK. But it is very very hacky
[22:09] <Acou_Bass> how do you 'kill' the process? as my syncthing mobile use tends to be 'turn it on when i plug it in, leave it running for an hour and turn it off' xD
[22:09] <mcphail> I leave it on the store as a reminder we need proper background apps
[22:09] <Acou_Bass> thats with sailfishOS right now
[22:09] <Acou_Bass> xD
[22:10] <mcphail> You just flick it away from the app spread
[22:10] <Acou_Bass> ooh and that kills the daemon?
[22:10] <mcphail> yep
[22:10] <Acou_Bass> thats better than id hoped, i was imagining having to open up terminal and killall it
[22:11] <Acou_Bass> im quite happy to use the webUI anyway, i tend to do that anyway because managing ti from a desktop is easier than a phone hehe
[22:11] <mcphail> I'll cook up a new package with the latest upstream binary, if you want
[22:12] <Acou_Bass> i suppose the other alternative would be how i did it on my n900 - download the binary and run it from a file in a terminal? ;D
[22:12] <mcphail> you can, but it will be killed whenever the terminal app goes into background
[22:12] <Acou_Bass> ahh right, so your app keeps it running as long as the app is there
[22:12] <Acou_Bass> thats handy
[22:14] <Acou_Bass> ook so im gonna see if theres anything i needa backup on my phone, then might see about getting ubuntu back on it ;D woo
[22:14] <Acou_Bass> main reason im doing it is because ive finally gotten round to fixing my USB port, so wanna test out this convergence thing
[22:14] <mcphail> I haven't dabbled in the converged stuff yet
[22:16] <Acou_Bass> its something im interested in from afar, its probably never actually going to be 'part of my daily life' but i think the concept is awesome
[22:16] <Acou_Bass> especially with the miracast thing, thats a stroke of genius ;D