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mappshi04:49
knightwiseGreat06:28
knightwiseMicrosoft update seems to have broken my Surface Pro"s ability to use a second screen06:28
diploMorning all07:37
knightwisehey diplo08:03
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:09
foobarryYou're one of 58,843,488 people pwned in the Modern Business Solutions data breach08:19
foobarrydid anyone else get this? never heard of them08:19
diploOur work domain did yeah08:24
diploHaven't looked at who it was yet08:24
davmor2Morning all08:24
TwistedLucidityfoobarry: It's inetersting where your data ends up. I don't have a Yahoo account, they still sent me an email. :-S08:30
foobarryflickr?08:30
foobarrybanking on popey getting an email too08:31
foobarrymaybe they were a giant linkedin email addres harvesting op08:31
davmor2foobarry: I think diddledan was on about that yesterday08:32
davmor2foobarry: http://news.softpedia.com/news/hacker-steals-58-million-user-records-from-data-storage-provider-509190.shtml08:32
foobarrydoesn't explain why though08:33
foobarrywhy my name is there08:33
JonTheNiceGuy[m]Perhaps they were storing data on behalf of another company (think of something like a managed SQL Server for businesses)08:34
davmor2foobarry: by the look of it they store insurance docs among other things08:34
zmoylan-piperhaps someone is using your info for fraudulant accounts?08:38
foobarryhttps://haveibeenpwned.com/PwnedWebsites is rather epic08:44
popeyi dont think i have had a mail08:59
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daftykinsdo i spy final 16.10 images already?11:17
daftykinsnot that i touch non-LTS, but i'll help seed :)11:17
directhexi guess mono 4.6 was too late. boo-urns :/11:24
daftykinshmm server 2016 eval to play with, too11:26
davmor2foobarry: I think it is just quicker to print YES on the haveibeenpwned site ;)11:27
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knightwiseFrack14:34
knightwiseMS = Pita14:34
daftykinsoh really :)14:35
Seekernom nom nom14:36
davmor2knightwise: are you trying to say you want a fracking oil and microsoft pita I'm sure it can be arranged but seriously kebab meat is probably slightly less hazardous to your health14:37
foobarrymy wife told me to put less marmite on daughters bread today14:38
daftykinsXD14:39
daftykinsi heard about Tesco having some fun with Unilever, on the radio14:39
foobarryunbeliever?14:39
popeymarmite \o/14:40
popeystock up!14:40
SeekerIt's the great marmite shortage of 2016!14:41
SeekerSomeone made the point that Unilever didn't try to cut prices by 10% when the pound was doing well :P14:41
daftykinsthat's not a very good point to make given the radio claimed Unilever had said they were changing due to the weak pound14:42
foobarrywhat are sainsburys doing ? rasising prices?14:42
Seekerdaftykins: I think the point was that Unilever was happy to take the extra profit when the pound was doing well14:43
knightwiseNah , its just that a driver update broke the ability to use my external screen14:44
knightwisevery annoying14:44
daftykinsSeeker: i can't follow the logic there14:44
diddledan!isitoutyet14:45
lubotu3`It's Out!!! See - http://www.ubuntu.com/download14:45
diddledan\o/14:45
daftykinsnon-LTS = no news ;)14:45
diddledanI didn't receive the email yet14:46
Seekerdaftykins: If the argument is "The pound is weak so we are making less profit, so we need to lower the price to make sure we make the same amount of profit as before"14:46
Seeker*to raise the price14:47
daftykinsah i'd heard it was manufacture costs14:47
daftykinsmight be remembering wrong14:47
SeekerThey should have applied "The pound is strong so we are making more profit, so we need to lower the price to make the same amount of profit as before, we can pass the benefit to our customers"14:47
Seekeryes, manufacture costs have an impact on profit14:48
daftykinsnevermind, i think you miss what i'm saying there14:48
Seekerdaftykins: it's manufactured by them in other countries14:50
daftykinsi've lost interest now14:50
Seekerso they're now getting less <other currency> per product14:50
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knightwiseIs this the distro with Unity8  ?15:26
diddledanknightwise: it's installed, but not default15:27
popeyknightwise: see http://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/10/13/unity-8-preview-session-in-ubuntu-16-10-yakkety-yak/15:27
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imexilHi, just tried to run upgrade to 16.10 and I'm getting "Your python install is corrupted. Please fix the '/usr/bin/python' symlink." from the update-manager. I've already tried "apt install --reinstall python" (and python3) but nothing helped. Any other suggestions?16:52
daftykinsls -al /usr/bin/python16:53
imexillrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 okt.  13 18:47 /usr/bin/python -> /usr/bin/python316:54
daftykinsperhaps it wants you to have that as python 2 *shrug*16:54
daftykinsupdate-alternatives handles that i think16:54
imexilwell that was when I reinstalled python. Same result :(16:54
daftykinsright but that DOES NOT change the symlink.16:54
imexilyes it does ;-)16:55
daftykinshow come it's pointing at 3 then?16:55
imexilI first tried reinstall python  --> fail. Then reinstall python316:55
daftykinsso what you're actually trying to say with the wrong words, is that you don't have python 2?16:56
imexilI have both. And in the right words: 1. update-manager complains 2. reinstall python 3. ln points to python2 3. update-manager still fails 4. reinstall python3 5. ln points to python3 6. update-manager still fails.16:58
imexilI guess I will have to purge both next16:59
daftykinsjust change the symlink and see what it does16:59
imexilthat was my first try before reinstall :-(16:59
daftykinsso you have had it point to python 2...17:00
daftykinsi think at this point you should go to the correct support channel #ubuntu :)17:00
imexilI've tried both variants already17:00
daftykinsyeah but you keep talking about package manipulation instead of changing it by hand, so i'm dubious17:01
imexilchanging the symlinks to python2 and python3, fail each time. Followed by reinstall of python2 and python3  which still fals.17:01
daftykinsok, #ubuntu it is17:02
imexilThe thing is that I'm actually using python on a daily basis so can't believe the symlinks were the problems to start with17:02
imexilOK. Thanks.17:02
daftykinswell it doesn't hurt to try the simple things17:02
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ali1234/usr/bin/python should never be a symlink to python317:05
ali1234see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Python/3 and http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/17:06
imexilEven if it is it does not help :-(17:08
* daftykins thinks it was done wrong but nevermind17:08
imexilwhat do you mean daftykins17:08
daftykinsi've already pointed to the main support channel, no point discussing further17:09
imexiljust wondering what you mean with "it"17:09
daftykinslike i said, i'm hands off now17:10
ali1234actually since 16.10 is not released yet you probably want #ubuntu+117:14
ali1234wait, hang on, it was released today?17:14
daftykinskeep up :)17:14
diddledandaftykins: I'm _finally_ going to get the battery replaced in my mac tomorrow17:27
diddledan:-D17:27
daftykinsNO WAI17:27
daftykinsofficial one, or?17:27
diddledanyeah, I've got an appointment with the apple store17:28
daftykinsouch, isn't that gonna be like £80+ ?17:28
diddledan£169 :-o17:28
daftykinsWAT17:28
daftykinsthat's obscene17:28
diddledanINORITE17:28
zmoylan-piwell as a mac user you are expected to be able to afford it17:29
diddledanlol17:30
daftykinsor just sufficiently overtaken by the cult :)17:34
daftykinsdiddledan: where did it all go wrong!?17:34
diddledanit was shauno!17:34
diddledanhe corrupted my fragile little mind17:34
zmoylan-pifor twice the price you can probably send the macbook off and have the battery replaced in the cult hq...17:34
daftykinsyou won't get the same one back then though, just a refurb most likely17:36
daftykinssame thing they do with phones which is part of a class action lawsuit ;)17:36
zmoylan-piseems a few iphone users are miffed when they send an iphone 6 in for repairs that they are getting scuffed/sup par ones in return...17:37
zmoylan-pimy iphone 3g is still in mint condition... :-D17:37
daftykinsindeed17:37
daftykinsinsecure online though ;)17:38
daftykinsand due to the 'touch disease' issue, they get back a device that in some cases only lasts a few days so i hear...17:38
zmoylan-pihasn't been online since.... 2010ish17:38
daftykinswhich there is also a class action lawsuit progressing nicely for17:38
zmoylan-pibut totally non explody!17:38
daftykinsthey might wish it exploded :>17:39
zmoylan-piif they explode its the judgement of jobs.... :-P17:39
daftykinszmoylan-pi: hah, simply 'your time has come'19:11
diddledanwat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU2GF4qGyck19:22
ali1234lol19:25
daftykinswhen will i learn not to click diddledan links :(19:26
daftykinswait... diddlinks19:26
diddledanlol19:27
daftykinswow if you log into a server core 2012R2 install you just get a command prompt window come up, that's ghetto19:27
diddledanthis is how not to respond to accusations of fraud: http://www.imore.com/dash-developer-speaks-heres-his-full-story19:32
diddledandaftykins: yup, I find it odd that it still has a GUI interface to drive that command prompt though because it suggests the only thing they stripped-out was explorer.exe19:33
daftykins:D19:33
daftykinsyou'd think they could at least develop a console-like thing19:34
diddledanI figured when they claimed something like it will be command-line only that it would be command-line only19:34
diddledanI just don't get why they need any WIMP stuff at all19:34
daftykinshang on, is he claiming his mum did it all? :D19:37
diddledankinda19:37
zmoylan-pihis dog did it would only work on youtube comments and not app store reviews...19:38
daftykins:D19:38
diddledanhe contradicts that at the bottom where he says "I did not want to release any information on the developer that was behind the accused activity, in order to protect her identity." <-- if it's his mom then why does he says "the developer"?!19:38
zmoylan-pishe made him? :-P19:39
diddledanhah! https://twitter.com/joeressington/status/78667714648811110421:17
daftykinsdiddledan: pff21:37
daftykins:P21:37
daftykinsgah, the new mechanical keyboard i got has been causing me proper finger joint pain21:45
daftykinstook a fair time to notice it, but any extended typing has one or two on one hand start to give grief21:45
daftykinsdifference is i got Cherry MX Reds this time, Blue last time21:46
zmoylan-piis red stiffer/harder?22:07
daftykinsbuckles easier i think22:07
daftykinsso my fingers might be suffering from them bottoming out22:07
zmoylan-piat least they make other options...22:08
daftykinsnot on this model sadly22:10
daftykinsall the keyboards have got broken layouts and silly RGB lighting nowadays X|22:10
zmoylan-piso bid for a model m on fleabay?22:12
daftykinsthose don't have super!22:13
zmoylan-pithen you've reached the age of needing :cue ominous music:: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard22:14
daftykinsholy moly22:15
daftykinsthat seems worthy of Doug Engelbert22:15
daftykins*Engelbart22:15
zmoylan-pi8000 possible combos...22:16
daftykinsi especially love the roman numerals22:16
zmoylan-pithe advanced version comes with egyptian hieroglyphics :-P22:17
zmoylan-pii'm only surprised no one seems to making a modern variant of it22:18
diddledanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cHB3Rbz1OI22:22
daftykinssuch a bad name22:27
m0nkey_Hmm, I gotta send my server box PSU for RMA. I'm going to be without my FreeNAS box for a few weeks :(23:31
daftykinsno express RMA service from the co?23:37
daftykinscould just buy another then sell the replacement23:37

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