[04:49] <mapps> hi
[06:28] <knightwise> Great
[06:28] <knightwise> Microsoft update seems to have broken my Surface Pro"s ability to use a second screen
[07:37] <diplo> Morning all
[08:03] <knightwise> hey diplo
[08:09] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:19] <foobarry> You're one of 58,843,488 people pwned in the Modern Business Solutions data breach
[08:19] <foobarry> did anyone else get this? never heard of them
[08:24] <diplo> Our work domain did yeah
[08:24] <diplo> Haven't looked at who it was yet
[08:24] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:30] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: It's inetersting where your data ends up. I don't have a Yahoo account, they still sent me an email. :-S
[08:30] <foobarry> flickr?
[08:31] <foobarry> banking on popey getting an email too
[08:31] <foobarry> maybe they were a giant linkedin email addres harvesting op
[08:32] <davmor2> foobarry: I think diddledan was on about that yesterday
[08:32] <davmor2> foobarry: http://news.softpedia.com/news/hacker-steals-58-million-user-records-from-data-storage-provider-509190.shtml
[08:33] <foobarry> doesn't explain why though
[08:33] <foobarry> why my name is there
[08:34] <JonTheNiceGuy[m]> Perhaps they were storing data on behalf of another company (think of something like a managed SQL Server for businesses)
[08:34] <davmor2> foobarry: by the look of it they store insurance docs among other things
[08:38] <zmoylan-pi> perhaps someone is using your info for fraudulant accounts?
[08:44] <foobarry> https://haveibeenpwned.com/PwnedWebsites is rather epic
[08:59] <popey> i dont think i have had a mail
[11:17] <daftykins> do i spy final 16.10 images already?
[11:17] <daftykins> not that i touch non-LTS, but i'll help seed :)
[11:24] <directhex> i guess mono 4.6 was too late. boo-urns :/
[11:26] <daftykins> hmm server 2016 eval to play with, too
[11:27] <davmor2> foobarry: I think it is just quicker to print YES on the haveibeenpwned site ;)
[14:34] <knightwise> Frack
[14:34] <knightwise> MS = Pita
[14:35] <daftykins> oh really :)
[14:36] <Seeker> nom nom nom
[14:37] <davmor2> knightwise: are you trying to say you want a fracking oil and microsoft pita I'm sure it can be arranged but seriously kebab meat is probably slightly less hazardous to your health
[14:38] <foobarry> my wife told me to put less marmite on daughters bread today
[14:39] <daftykins> XD
[14:39] <daftykins> i heard about Tesco having some fun with Unilever, on the radio
[14:39] <foobarry> unbeliever?
[14:40] <popey> marmite \o/
[14:40] <popey> stock up!
[14:41] <Seeker> It's the great marmite shortage of 2016!
[14:41] <Seeker> Someone made the point that Unilever didn't try to cut prices by 10% when the pound was doing well :P
[14:42] <daftykins> that's not a very good point to make given the radio claimed Unilever had said they were changing due to the weak pound
[14:42] <foobarry> what are sainsburys doing ? rasising prices?
[14:43] <Seeker> daftykins: I think the point was that Unilever was happy to take the extra profit when the pound was doing well
[14:44] <knightwise> Nah , its just that a driver update broke the ability to use my external screen
[14:44] <knightwise> very annoying
[14:44] <daftykins> Seeker: i can't follow the logic there
[14:45] <diddledan> !isitoutyet
[14:45] <lubotu3`> It's Out!!! See - http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[14:45] <diddledan> \o/
[14:45] <daftykins> non-LTS = no news ;)
[14:46] <diddledan> I didn't receive the email yet
[14:46] <Seeker> daftykins: If the argument is "The pound is weak so we are making less profit, so we need to lower the price to make sure we make the same amount of profit as before"
[14:47] <Seeker> *to raise the price
[14:47] <daftykins> ah i'd heard it was manufacture costs
[14:47] <daftykins> might be remembering wrong
[14:47] <Seeker> They should have applied "The pound is strong so we are making more profit, so we need to lower the price to make the same amount of profit as before, we can pass the benefit to our customers"
[14:48] <Seeker> yes, manufacture costs have an impact on profit
[14:48] <daftykins> nevermind, i think you miss what i'm saying there
[14:50] <Seeker> daftykins: it's manufactured by them in other countries
[14:50] <daftykins> i've lost interest now
[14:50] <Seeker> so they're now getting less <other currency> per product
[15:26] <knightwise> Is this the distro with Unity8  ?
[15:27] <diddledan> knightwise: it's installed, but not default
[15:27] <popey> knightwise: see http://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/10/13/unity-8-preview-session-in-ubuntu-16-10-yakkety-yak/
[16:52] <imexil> Hi, just tried to run upgrade to 16.10 and I'm getting "Your python install is corrupted. Please fix the '/usr/bin/python' symlink." from the update-manager. I've already tried "apt install --reinstall python" (and python3) but nothing helped. Any other suggestions?
[16:53] <daftykins> ls -al /usr/bin/python
[16:54] <imexil> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 okt.  13 18:47 /usr/bin/python -> /usr/bin/python3
[16:54] <daftykins> perhaps it wants you to have that as python 2 *shrug*
[16:54] <daftykins> update-alternatives handles that i think
[16:54] <imexil> well that was when I reinstalled python. Same result :(
[16:54] <daftykins> right but that DOES NOT change the symlink.
[16:55] <imexil> yes it does ;-)
[16:55] <daftykins> how come it's pointing at 3 then?
[16:55] <imexil> I first tried reinstall python  --> fail. Then reinstall python3
[16:56] <daftykins> so what you're actually trying to say with the wrong words, is that you don't have python 2?
[16:58] <imexil> I have both. And in the right words: 1. update-manager complains 2. reinstall python 3. ln points to python2 3. update-manager still fails 4. reinstall python3 5. ln points to python3 6. update-manager still fails.
[16:59] <imexil> I guess I will have to purge both next
[16:59] <daftykins> just change the symlink and see what it does
[16:59] <imexil> that was my first try before reinstall :-(
[17:00] <daftykins> so you have had it point to python 2...
[17:00] <daftykins> i think at this point you should go to the correct support channel #ubuntu :)
[17:00] <imexil> I've tried both variants already
[17:01] <daftykins> yeah but you keep talking about package manipulation instead of changing it by hand, so i'm dubious
[17:01] <imexil> changing the symlinks to python2 and python3, fail each time. Followed by reinstall of python2 and python3  which still fals.
[17:02] <daftykins> ok, #ubuntu it is
[17:02] <imexil> The thing is that I'm actually using python on a daily basis so can't believe the symlinks were the problems to start with
[17:02] <imexil> OK. Thanks.
[17:02] <daftykins> well it doesn't hurt to try the simple things
[17:05] <ali1234> /usr/bin/python should never be a symlink to python3
[17:06] <ali1234> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Python/3 and http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/
[17:08] <imexil> Even if it is it does not help :-(
[17:08]  * daftykins thinks it was done wrong but nevermind
[17:08] <imexil> what do you mean daftykins
[17:09] <daftykins> i've already pointed to the main support channel, no point discussing further
[17:09] <imexil> just wondering what you mean with "it"
[17:10] <daftykins> like i said, i'm hands off now
[17:14] <ali1234> actually since 16.10 is not released yet you probably want #ubuntu+1
[17:14] <ali1234> wait, hang on, it was released today?
[17:14] <daftykins> keep up :)
[17:27] <diddledan> daftykins: I'm _finally_ going to get the battery replaced in my mac tomorrow
[17:27] <diddledan> :-D
[17:27] <daftykins> NO WAI
[17:27] <daftykins> official one, or?
[17:28] <diddledan> yeah, I've got an appointment with the apple store
[17:28] <daftykins> ouch, isn't that gonna be like £80+ ?
[17:28] <diddledan> £169 :-o
[17:28] <daftykins> WAT
[17:28] <daftykins> that's obscene
[17:28] <diddledan> INORITE
[17:29] <zmoylan-pi> well as a mac user you are expected to be able to afford it
[17:30] <diddledan> lol
[17:34] <daftykins> or just sufficiently overtaken by the cult :)
[17:34] <daftykins> diddledan: where did it all go wrong!?
[17:34] <diddledan> it was shauno!
[17:34] <diddledan> he corrupted my fragile little mind
[17:34] <zmoylan-pi> for twice the price you can probably send the macbook off and have the battery replaced in the cult hq...
[17:36] <daftykins> you won't get the same one back then though, just a refurb most likely
[17:36] <daftykins> same thing they do with phones which is part of a class action lawsuit ;)
[17:37] <zmoylan-pi> seems a few iphone users are miffed when they send an iphone 6 in for repairs that they are getting scuffed/sup par ones in return...
[17:37] <zmoylan-pi> my iphone 3g is still in mint condition... :-D
[17:37] <daftykins> indeed
[17:38] <daftykins> insecure online though ;)
[17:38] <daftykins> and due to the 'touch disease' issue, they get back a device that in some cases only lasts a few days so i hear...
[17:38] <zmoylan-pi> hasn't been online since.... 2010ish
[17:38] <daftykins> which there is also a class action lawsuit progressing nicely for
[17:38] <zmoylan-pi> but totally non explody!
[17:39] <daftykins> they might wish it exploded :>
[17:39] <zmoylan-pi> if they explode its the judgement of jobs.... :-P
[19:11] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: hah, simply 'your time has come'
[19:22] <diddledan> wat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU2GF4qGyck
[19:25] <ali1234> lol
[19:26] <daftykins> when will i learn not to click diddledan links :(
[19:26] <daftykins> wait... diddlinks
[19:27] <diddledan> lol
[19:27] <daftykins> wow if you log into a server core 2012R2 install you just get a command prompt window come up, that's ghetto
[19:32] <diddledan> this is how not to respond to accusations of fraud: http://www.imore.com/dash-developer-speaks-heres-his-full-story
[19:33] <diddledan> daftykins: yup, I find it odd that it still has a GUI interface to drive that command prompt though because it suggests the only thing they stripped-out was explorer.exe
[19:33] <daftykins> :D
[19:34] <daftykins> you'd think they could at least develop a console-like thing
[19:34] <diddledan> I figured when they claimed something like it will be command-line only that it would be command-line only
[19:34] <diddledan> I just don't get why they need any WIMP stuff at all
[19:37] <daftykins> hang on, is he claiming his mum did it all? :D
[19:37] <diddledan> kinda
[19:38] <zmoylan-pi> his dog did it would only work on youtube comments and not app store reviews...
[19:38] <daftykins> :D
[19:38] <diddledan> he contradicts that at the bottom where he says "I did not want to release any information on the developer that was behind the accused activity, in order to protect her identity." <-- if it's his mom then why does he says "the developer"?!
[19:39] <zmoylan-pi> she made him? :-P
[21:17] <diddledan> hah! https://twitter.com/joeressington/status/786677146488111104
[21:37] <daftykins> diddledan: pff
[21:37] <daftykins> :P
[21:45] <daftykins> gah, the new mechanical keyboard i got has been causing me proper finger joint pain
[21:45] <daftykins> took a fair time to notice it, but any extended typing has one or two on one hand start to give grief
[21:46] <daftykins> difference is i got Cherry MX Reds this time, Blue last time
[22:07] <zmoylan-pi> is red stiffer/harder?
[22:07] <daftykins> buckles easier i think
[22:07] <daftykins> so my fingers might be suffering from them bottoming out
[22:08] <zmoylan-pi> at least they make other options...
[22:10] <daftykins> not on this model sadly
[22:10] <daftykins> all the keyboards have got broken layouts and silly RGB lighting nowadays X|
[22:12] <zmoylan-pi> so bid for a model m on fleabay?
[22:13] <daftykins> those don't have super!
[22:14] <zmoylan-pi> then you've reached the age of needing :cue ominous music:: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard
[22:15] <daftykins> holy moly
[22:15] <daftykins> that seems worthy of Doug Engelbert
[22:15] <daftykins> *Engelbart
[22:16] <zmoylan-pi> 8000 possible combos...
[22:16] <daftykins> i especially love the roman numerals
[22:17] <zmoylan-pi> the advanced version comes with egyptian hieroglyphics :-P
[22:18] <zmoylan-pi> i'm only surprised no one seems to making a modern variant of it
[22:22] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cHB3Rbz1OI
[22:27] <daftykins> such a bad name
[23:31] <m0nkey_> Hmm, I gotta send my server box PSU for RMA. I'm going to be without my FreeNAS box for a few weeks :(
[23:37] <daftykins> no express RMA service from the co?
[23:37] <daftykins> could just buy another then sell the replacement