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| powersj | Reading the docs there is a "preserve_source_list" option to prevent sources.list from being modified. However, it looks like it does not have any effect. | 15:13 |
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| powersj | Then I looked at a modified sources.list and at the top there is a comment about "apt_preserve_source_list", which is different thant he docs | 15:13 |
| powersj | 1) which "verb" should I use? 2) can I use it to prevent any changes? or only some? | 15:13 |
| jgrimm | powersj, i'm far from knowledgeable.. but the docs do say "only extra source specifications will be written into /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* " even when preserve_source_list is true. WRT you're question #2 (looks like only 'some' is the answer) | 15:43 |
| rharper | powersj: jgrimm: recall that the base /etc/apt/sources.list is generated from a template | 15:45 |
| rharper | there's a default template built-in to cloud-init; or you have to provide your own template | 15:45 |
| rharper | combined with jgrimm comment, the preserve would only be for .d/ entries IIUC | 15:46 |
| rharper | cpaelzer might know more; powersj also looking at curtin's vmtest for apt may be informative | 15:46 |
| jgrimm | rharper, good idea wrt curtin tests | 15:46 |
| jgrimm | powersj, i'm curious to know more by what you mean " there is a comment about "apt_preserve_source_list", which is different thant he docs" .. sounds peculiar | 15:48 |
| powersj | rharper: jgrimm thanks, from the note in the docs made me think it would preserve sources.list not the .d/* | 15:48 |
| jgrimm | ah | 15:49 |
| jgrimm | if you think some clarification could improve things, please do submit fixup. :) | 15:49 |
| powersj | jgrimm: here is from a cloud-init generated source.list: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23324063/ | 15:49 |
| powersj | so that mentions apt_preserve... but I don't see that mentioned anywhere else in the docs | 15:50 |
| magicalChicken | i think cloud-init should follow 'preserve_sources_list'. in cc_apt_configure.py at line 300 it checks if that's there before generating | 15:51 |
| rharper | powersj: that's if you snapshot and boot it in a different instance | 15:51 |
| rharper | then cloud-init won't re-create the templated file | 15:51 |
| rharper | powersj: are you seeing that sources.list is re-written when you switch instances ? | 15:51 |
| powersj | rharper: haven't tried that, just trying to understand all the options and which to actually use. | 15:52 |
| rharper | gotcha | 15:53 |
| magicalChicken | powersj: the apt_preserve_sources_list is rewritten to preserve_sources_list in cc_apt_configure.convert_v2_to_3_apt_format | 15:53 |
| powersj | magicalChicken: ah! so it is a legacy name so to speak | 15:55 |
| jgrimm | ah, apt_* version is old, so indeed maybe useful to fix up | 15:55 |
| jgrimm | yeah | 15:55 |
| powersj | "Convert old to new keys..." | 15:55 |
| magicalChicken | powersj: yeah, the new format is everything under a general apt: key | 15:55 |
| jgrimm | so looks like a minor cleanup bug for the emitted text | 15:56 |
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| harlowja | smoser did u ever get my cla email ? | 16:22 |
| smoser | where did you send ? more contexst ? | 16:24 |
| harlowja | godaddy never got a copy of theres | 16:24 |
| harlowja | let me figure out where i sent it | 16:25 |
| harlowja | somewhere | 16:25 |
| harlowja | lol | 16:25 |
| harlowja | (canonical ccla for godaddy) | 16:25 |
| harlowja | Scott Moser <smoser@ubuntu.com> | 16:26 |
| harlowja | that one | 16:26 |
| harlowja | sent again :-P | 16:26 |
| smoser | k | 16:27 |
| harlowja | smoser so mdorman may have some resources for VMs :) | 16:47 |
| harlowja | if we can just figure out what we want :) | 16:47 |
| harlowja | we/canonical/us ... | 16:47 |
| mdorman | hello o/ | 16:49 |
| harlowja | o/ | 16:51 |
| harlowja | smoser is https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/cloud-init-centos-unittest still the idea for rhel? | 16:54 |
| mdorman | so i am not totally up to speed with the whole discussion here, but we should be able to provide you N VMs to help with this. but if you need an openstack api endpoint to hit as a way to dynamically spin up/down vms, that’s a little more complex and i’m not sure we can accommodate that (we don’t have an OS api exposed publically today) | 16:55 |
| harlowja | smoser is the one up to speed :-P | 16:55 |
| harlowja | haha | 16:56 |
| smoser | see the 'mostly now' | 16:57 |
| smoser | https://gist.github.com/smoser/19e65095b342e98fd4d6466e4d4fa1ac | 16:57 |
| smoser | that works last i checked | 16:57 |
| harlowja | so with that kind of stuff just VMs with LXC would be fine | 16:58 |
| harlowja | no need for API acccess | 16:58 |
| harlowja | just some VMs with ability to login (for certain keys) | 16:58 |
| harlowja | (perhaps?) | 16:58 |
| smoser | actually.. so using lxc i can npretty easily run unit tests as seen there. | 16:58 |
| smoser | and we can do that on existing canonical hardware. | 16:59 |
| harlowja | k | 16:59 |
| smoser | can/should | 16:59 |
| harlowja | canonical orange boxes? | 16:59 |
| mdorman | :) | 16:59 |
| harlowja | or whatever they were called :-P | 16:59 |
| smoser | so at the moment i guess i dont need anything | 16:59 |
| smoser | right, all our boxen are orange. | 16:59 |
| harlowja | just like the next president! | 16:59 |
| harlowja | lol | 16:59 |
| mdorman | ehe | 16:59 |
| mdorman | alright, cool. well if that’s something we can assist with, feel free to reach out to me and/or via josh. it’s pretty easy for us to stand up | 17:00 |
| smoser | ok. | 17:00 |
| harlowja | wfm | 17:01 |
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