[00:00] hi Snowhog are you same as kubuntu forums? [00:00] hey Snowhog, nice to see you here [00:02] how do I recreate /var/lib/jenkins/.ssh if I dont have root access? [00:07] clivejo: That'd be me. ;) [00:07] nice to see you here :) [00:07] clivejo: Thank you. I'm not on IRC very often, but I check in now and again. [00:07] you should, its amazing! [00:08] or get Telegram! [00:08] Hi valorie! Thank you for adding my other email account. [00:08] you are most welcome [00:08] we're taking off to get chinese food before the big storm hits [00:08] 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 [00:09] I dunno how to repair this without root access :/ [00:09] valorie: As to the issue I raised in that June dated email you found in your spam folder. Apt using IPv6 addressing instead of IPv4 seems to have resolved itself. Don't know when, as I was using an alias for apt that forced use of IPv4. But I checked today, and apt is using IPv4. [00:10] clivejo: Boot from a LiveCD/USB and chroot? [00:11] * clivejo giggles [00:12] eak [00:12] according to IP2Location the kci server is in Australia! [00:13] valorie: will you send me down under to boot the KCI server from a Live CD? [00:16] clivejo: See, that's what one gets when they enter IRC after a conversation has already started; you don't see what dialog came before. Buy, hey, yeah, a trip to Australia with a LiveCD. I say go for it! [00:16] Snowhog: we had a bit of a set back [00:17] someone accidently killed the Kubuntu Continuous Integration (KCI) server [00:17] clivejo: Off with their head! [00:17] so Im trying to get it working again [00:18] but not having much luck [00:18] clivejo: Can't force it to reboot? [00:19] it needs the key files to connect to the different servers [00:19] ie git repros, LP PPA, etc [00:19] even the slaves [00:19] clivejo: There isn't an administrative 'backdoor account'? [00:20] no [00:20] its a server that was provided by Blue Systems [00:20] and we (as far as I know) dont have a root account on it [00:20] clivejo: That's not good. In my opinion, there should never be just one administrative account. There should be at least two, with the other one never being used unless the primary gets borked. [00:21] there are a lot of things should never happen but do :P [00:22] clivejo: Anyone at Blue Systems available with knowledge about that server? Maybe they still have an account that can be used with it. [00:23] I think we might be trying to move it after this [00:24] but its going to set us back, development wise [00:24] and we already behind! [00:24] Sounds like reason enough to send you to Australia to fix it! [00:28] probably better to have our own machine [00:30] clivejo: But until you do, that one still needs to be remedied, yes? [00:30] I dont know it it can be [00:30] I dont have the knowledge to fix it! [00:33] anyway, time for bed [00:33] night all [00:33] oh Snowhog did you see the podcast? [01:22] KCI be like: https://twitter.com/sadserver/status/523519779470991361 [01:34] and someone built KDE 1 on modern hardware [01:34] http://www.heliocastro.info/?p=291 [01:40] isn't that awesome? [01:41] helio is fantastic [01:41] talk about stable software [01:42] I find it a bit of a waste of time [01:42] omg wow... [01:42] debtree [01:42] you guys HAVE to see this [01:42] http://imgur.com/a/aacB3 [01:43] http://i.imgur.com/WFupxyn.jpg is a better link though [01:43] argh come on... [01:44] ahoneybun: there is a serious effort to save old software [01:44] before it's gone [01:46] aha: http://people.ubuntu.com/~tsimonq2/firefox-yakkety.png [01:46] when you install Firefox, your computer goes through that mess ^^^^^ [01:47] who wants to see kubuntu-desktop? :D [01:50] ewww, gtk [01:50] sure [01:51] wait does everyone have a people thing? [01:51] ahoneybun: all Ubuntu Members [01:52] holy crap [01:52] ahoneybun: and all Kubuntu members are inherently Kubuntu members [01:52] what can we do with it? [01:52] how big is it, etc.? [01:52] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PeopleUbuntuCom [01:53] all instructions therr ^ [01:53] *there [01:54] very cool [01:54] yea I found that [01:54] did not know about it [01:54] well yea [01:54] I know I am [01:54] have fun ;) [01:54] still waiting on my sign letter from Mark and mag issue [01:55] mm I have to wait till LP takes my new ssh key [01:55] I have a feeling this will be a very large file, lol [01:55] hmmm, jr used to use his space all the time, but I never thought to investigate it [01:56] valorie: my index.html file just redirects to tsimonq2.net [01:56] valorie: otherwise, Rik has used my people.ubuntu.com instance before :P [01:57] valorie: how do you think he got things to shadeslayer? :D [01:57] neat! [01:57] valorie: he logged into my linode, which has access to my people.ubuntu.com instance, tarred everything up, then used sftp to get it on there. :) [01:59] clivejo, acheronuk, santa_: can I *please* move all the packages from the staging PPAs to Backports Landing? ;) [01:59] clivejo, acheronuk, santa_: imho our next priority is landing things there [01:59] * ahoneybun wonders why we can't get into it [02:00] I added my ssh key to LP [02:00] ahoneybun: pop into #canonical-sysadmin and ask the vanguard [02:01] ahoneybun: they have access and are there to help :) [02:03] I know [02:04] going to wait a few mins for the server to catch up [02:05] ok [02:22] tsimonq2: you were saying? [02:25] ahoneybun: hm? [02:26] ahoneybun: ping blahdeblah [03:23] Ok, bed for me. o/ [03:39] sweet dreams, tsimonq2 [06:08] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Kubuntu-Valve-VR-Demo [06:15] cool [07:16] clivejo: if we need better access to pangea to fix/change things, then perhaps sitter et al can help. if not I can't see why someone somewhere @ bluesystems would not be willing to help [07:18] tsimonq2: on backports I want to discuss with clivejo santa etc whether anything (e.g. plasma) needs a rebuild before copying access, and sort merging git to kubuntu_yakkety_backports [07:19] what with one thing and another with YY, just not managed to have that conversion yet [07:20] s/kubuntu_yakkety_backports/kubuntu_xenial_backports [07:38] Mornin. [07:39] * CRogers stretches. [07:40] morning :) [07:43] * CRogers chuckles. [07:43] Hey. [07:45] Boss: Did you photograph the watch bands for the new listings? Me: Nope. They have not come in yet. We don't even have the watch device. [07:45] Boss: Oh. Me: I could 3D model the whole lot. Boss: ... okay. [07:46] Moral of the story: I should bill my coffee to the company. [07:49] Or tell the boss I need to subscribe to the blender cloud... [07:50] Hmmm, that's not a bad idea, actually. More money for the Blender foundation. [07:53] design/graphics is very much not my best point [07:53] That's okay. I'm a crappy coder at best. [07:55] So we have complimentary disciplines. :) [07:59] acheronuk, what's your best point? [08:08] CRogers: used to be physics, but now I wonder... [08:10] acheronuk, Cool. Maybe a better question is: what are you obsessed with lately? [08:10] I find that usually corresponds with what I wind up being good at. [08:13] lately it's trying to make kubuntu better. in a specific sense help on the technical side of getting it done. I think that is now going to involve significantly brushing up on my somewhat scattered coding skills [08:36] acheronuk, it's great how projects like Kubuntu can focus you, and give an excuse to refine coding skills, etc. [08:36] Big motivator for me too (FLOSS projects in general) [08:36] Urf, I hope this is *okay*. [08:36] https://www.dropbox.com/s/fezpyqtjkjxp5df/samsung_s2_watch_screenshot.png?dl=0 [08:37] Meaning: I hope the watchbands really look like this. ;P [08:40] I think I want one! [08:47] acheronuk, Oh good! It's working then. lol [08:49] goood morning!!!! :D [08:49] OMG OMG release image on website! [08:49] woohoooo!! [08:56] jimarvan, Hi! :D [08:56] * CRogers goes to look [08:58] jimarvan, you mean this: http://kubuntu.org/ ? [09:00] yeap in the news :) [09:00] but not in the first page yet hehe [09:00] new banner being made I think [09:00] :D [09:01] I am going to backup my stuff here [09:01] and try an upgrade [09:01] *crossing fingers [09:18] OMG Kubuntu 16.10 is out! [09:19] who let it escape? [09:19] * clivejo looks at tsimonq2 [09:24] acheronuk: that server is not bluesystems maintained [09:28] sitter clivejo : sigh. so who's is it then? [09:29] you clearly have access [09:32] KCI is a puzzlebox at the moment. should be simple, but no-one can manage it! [09:35] acheronuk: kubuntu [09:35] * acheronuk gives up [09:37] The new features page doesn't seem to have much related to the KDE interface. It's just an overview of the pre-packaged software... [09:38] Dolphin is looking pretty spiff in kde, though. [09:38] acheronuk: clivejo has access. I am not sure what the problem is? [09:40] sitter: tsimonq2 wants to re-write KCI tooling in Python, whats your opinion on that? [09:40] sitter: [01:02] how do I recreate /var/lib/jenkins/.ssh if I dont have root access? [09:41] it doesn't seem very practical to rewrite something for shits and giggles and then spend half a year getting rid of all the bugs again [09:41] if you rewrite it use go or rust though [09:42] acheronuk: but he does [09:42] I thought so, but...... [09:42] on a re-write - fine, but lets just get the old one working 1st! [09:43] then Simon can experiment all he likes. but wee need a working CI [09:53] well will someone tell KCI I have the permissions [09:53] because its saying I dont [09:53] open /var/lib/jenkins/.ssh/id_rsa failed: Permission denied. [09:53] Saving the key failed: /var/lib/jenkins/.ssh/id_rsa. [09:56] :/ [09:56] it is that serious heh... [09:57] jimarvan: no idea [09:57] :( [09:57] this is my first time looking at how it all works [10:01] sitter: sorry to bug you :(, but so you have any idea why clivejo may get that ^^^ [10:01] brb guys rebooting [10:01] wrong permissions [10:02] sitter: lol. that I worked out [10:02] but how do I "fix" that [10:02] man chown [10:03] we going round in circle here ! [10:03] chown: changing ownership of ‘.ssh’: Operation not permitted [10:03] phew [10:03] sudo chown wants a password [10:03] and I dont know said password [10:03] clivejo: user ubuntu=sudo access; user jenkins=no sudo access [10:04] so you sudo chown from the *ubuntu* user [10:04] clivejo: tooling-pending also has wrong ownership while you are at it [10:05] should that entire folder (/var/lib/jenkins) be owned by jenkins ? [10:05] yes [10:06] ssh to this box is so laggy [10:06] imagine you had to walk to sydney to operate it! [10:06] so as "ubuntu" if I do sudo chown -R jenkins jenkins ? [10:06] while in /var/lib [10:07] is the group ok? [10:07] no [10:07] jenkins:jenkins [10:07] group matters not though, so whatevs [10:07] -R is dandy [10:08] ok done [10:08] then you should be able to keygen [10:08] :) [10:09] now put pub key on slave? [10:09] yeah [10:11] ok, I dont think this is how it was setup before [10:12] the previous key was ubuntu@river [10:12] this new key is jenkins@river [10:12] :wq [10:13] maybe the previous key was copied from the ubuntu user, which would be a bit dodgy [10:13] *beeping* *beep* [10:13] ok, key added to authorized_keys [10:15] what now almighty and most worshipful master sitter? [10:15] * sitter now relaxen und watschen der blinkenlichten [10:15] English please :P [10:16] how uneducated [10:16] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blinkenlights [10:16] jenkins UI needs to know about the key? [10:16] yes [10:17] I told ya, update the credentials setting [10:17] then fire up the node [10:17] am I doing that right? [10:19] your blinkenlights are red [10:19] ERROR: Server rejected the 1 private key(s) for linode-slave [10:19] key no goody goody [10:20] dont think Im setting up the key properly [10:20] oh fudge [10:20] clivejo: you added the key to the root user of the node [10:21] one should think you should use the jenkins-slave user :P [10:22] one would, it one knew how this thing worked! [10:25] hummm [10:25] jenkins@pandak [10:26] * acheronuk runs 'sudo install acheronuk /usr/local/pub4lunch' [10:28] sitter: whats the remote root directory? [10:30] oh! [10:30] blinkenlights [10:34] sitter: Die Lichter sind grün [10:34] awesum [10:35] humm [10:35] maybe not [10:35] http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_attica/127/console [10:35] 10:33:11 ERROR: Error cloning remote repo 'packaging' [10:36] oh [10:36] OH [10:37] I am not sure why [10:38] ERROR: Workspace has a .git repository, but it appears to be corrupt. [10:38] wipe it I guess [10:38] master has clean workspaces, linode has all the old stuff? [10:38] can those workspaces be copied back to master? [10:41] sitter: Phil had to install git-monitor to stop races on LP and KDE git [10:42] uses semaphores so we dont get banned from KDE git [10:42] or time out on the naughty step [10:44] that's what I wrote about in the mail [10:44] clivejo: I'd let master just sort out the workspaces [10:47] clivejo: this should be set up on master [10:48] clivejo: on the slave you probably need to set the tool location of git to /var/lib/jenkins/tooling3/git-monitor/git [10:50] but how do I do that? [10:52] is do-release-upgrade working (-d)? mine says, no new release [10:52] vip: did you do a full apt update and upgrade? [10:52] vip: are you on 16.04? [10:53] vip: did you change the upgrade from only lts to all? [10:54] Who wants a product demo like this for Kubuntu? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXEkoXgb4bI [10:55] CRogers: sure would be nice! [10:55] can you mention it in #kubuntu-podcast [10:56] sure. [10:56] they are the more "creative" people ! [10:57] vip: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu [10:58] vip: read the blue box for upgrade from 16.04 [10:59] vip: if you do that does that fix it for you? [10:59] allo [10:59] ... [10:59] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPF58q58Ois [11:01] ok acheronuk [11:07] clivejo: you configure the node [11:09] o/ sitter [11:19] davmor2: hmm, cannot run command ' '' --attach 0 --dont-update'. [11:21] I don't use *-discover[-upgrade] packages, needed to install it [11:22] /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexec/kf5/kdesu -- --attach 0 --dont-update [11:23] so, I only needed vim /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and change Prompt to normal [11:24] I'll update wiki [11:25] vip: sorry not using kubuntu so not sure on the process glad it kinda helped a bit at least :) [11:26] thanks davmor2 [11:29] hmm, do I need some permissions to edit? [11:30] vip: possibly there was a lot of spam hitting the wiki [11:41] Howdy folks [11:42] Hey BluesKaj_ [11:43] Hi CRogers [11:45] anyone know if it's possible to make the magnifier (universal access zoom tool) redray text, etc so that it's a crisp magnification instead of a pixelated zoom? [11:45] *redraw [11:53] vip: Yes, as a result of spam, you need to request to join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wiki-editors [11:55] mparillo: oh, thanks [11:55] (I've just sent you message via launchpad) [12:02] mparillo: are admins here? [12:08] No, I think you click on the group and send a request to join. IIRC, you can say who you are and your past contributions. [12:08] I was accepted in less than 24 hours. [12:10] no even that, popey will approve you if you look like you have a reasonable non spammy LP profile I think [12:16] oh, my LP profile is empty as black hole [12:20] popey is on several IRC channels #ubuntu-uk #ubuntu-on-air #ubuntu-devel etc [12:23] thank you [13:06] ok, so how do I get git-monitor working?!? === mgolden is now known as mgolden_ === mgolden_ is now known as mgolden__ === mgolden__ is now known as mgolden_ [13:33] Congratulations: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wiki-editors Latest members vip [14:09] :) [14:09] brb rebooting === z4ki is now known as zaki [14:12] Has anybody noticed if you run kate, the file dialog is the normal kdialog. But if you kdesudo kate, you get a different kind of file dialog box. Is it just me? If no, is the bug against Kate or kdesudo? [14:29] marco-parillo, that's because of the negelected bug that apps opened with root permissions don't use the settings one sets in system settings , and even if you try to set them up with kdesudo systemsettings the settings don't work [14:30] I reported this over a year ago.and I don't think anyone has done anything to fix it [14:31] I'm sure there have been many bug reports filed [14:31] since the move to plasma 5 [14:32] TY, I guess I eventually figured out the pattern. [14:34] marco-parillo, it's particularly annoying on a large screen due to the font size settings not being readable [15:23] aaand back :) [15:26] https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/CI [15:28] good stuff... :) [15:28] Huh. Someone else reconstructed the kubuntu logo. :) [15:28] That graphic has a good version in it. [15:29] :D [15:29] Or did someone just make that page? [15:29] love it [15:29] AHORA ES LA HORA [15:29] :D [15:30] or the much more kubuntu style memo: NOW OR NEVER [15:30] lol [15:30] Hehehe [15:30] clivejo: <3 [15:31] I need to petition the Ubuntu studio people to change their motto. [15:31] It's really embarassing. [15:32] To the point where I keep my laptop partially closed during boot. ;P [15:32] xD [15:33] I do not understand the "for humans" ubuntu mottos. [15:34] they wanted to say "for idiots" [15:34] but they marketised it [15:34] Yea, that's how it comes off. [15:34] It still comes off "for idiots" [15:35] Because what exactly is the alternative? [15:35] Linux for hamsters? [15:35] Linux for Space Aliens? [15:35] No, THIS is definitely Linux for... humans. [15:35] * CRogers facepalms [15:36] xD [15:36] It's also deprecating to the community. [15:37] So Debian is... Linux for non-humans. [15:37] orly? [15:38] Linux for human beings. [15:38] * CRogers shudders. [15:38] easy there captain rogers [15:38] let them live [15:38] Sorry. lol [15:38] xD xD xD [15:38] Hahaha [15:38] Oh they can live. [15:38] But not without my criticism. ;) [15:39] Which flows abundantly, like a bountiful wellspring, from my open maw. [15:39] all shall be blessed. ALL SHALL BE BLESSED [15:39] aaand time to leave the office! :) [15:40] see ya all laters [15:40] ;) [15:40] laters, jimarvan [15:40] :) [15:40] love kubuntu 16.10 on virtualbox so far [15:40] cannot wait to test the upgrade [15:40] it feels the smoothest virtual box kubuntu installation ever [15:40] Cool. [15:43] Linux for everyone. [15:43] There. [15:43] That wasn't so hard. ;P [15:44] ;) [16:50] grrrr [16:51] clivejo, sup? [16:52] issues! [16:52] eep! [16:53] * CRogers gets out the almost empty can of issues-away... [16:53] spray KCI with it, quick! [16:58] hehehe [16:58] * CRogers reads the can [16:59] Says "aim away from face"... do they mean my face or faces in-general? [17:21] Aim it at the server in Australia [17:23] no wonder it's slow [17:25] indeed [17:25] travelling a long way!# [17:27] acheronuk: do you know what that git-monitor is ? [17:27] something that monitors git [17:27] oh? [17:27] obvious innit? [17:28] otherwise, why call it that? [17:28] if it only monitors, why is it blocking connections to LP? [17:28] not a scooby [17:29] seriously, I've heard it mentioned, but no more than that. sorry [17:29] wheres the ferret? [17:31] * CRogers fires up the latest inkscape-trunk from repo [17:33] oh yes, baby! Javier put in my measure line LPE! No more manually assing measurements for product design specs! [17:33] acheronuk: how many executors did we used to have on linode? [17:33] *adding [17:33] at one point 32 I think, by Phil may have knocked that down [17:35] o/ [17:35] speak of the devil! [17:35] with the last settings, scaleway had 48, linode 128 [17:36] works fine as long as you don't use btrfs :P [17:36] LOL [17:36] no it does! [17:36] doesnt work at all! [17:36] oh, I do, works most of the time..... [17:37] the git-monitor is the connection throttling semaphore for git so that git.kde.org doesn't reject connections [17:38] the monitor has to be running and the CI has to use the git wrapper script [17:38] is ssh lways this slow? [17:39] hi yofel :) [17:39] yes, don't ask me why [17:39] well apparently the server is in Austrilia! [17:39]