[00:00] <Kubuntu_new> anyway, out of time. I'll be on a little later, and if I may, I'll mine your brains then.
[03:15] <r_rios> Hey. I have a triple-boot set up in my system: opensuse, Windows, and Kubuntu 14.04. The grub menu comes from opensuse, but every time I upgrade Kubuntu's kernel, Kubuntu's grub menu takes over, and then I opensuse doesn't boot for some reason.
[03:15] <r_rios> How can I update my Kubuntu but block grub-update?\
[04:25] <user|51362> hello my Ubuntu when logging in does not show me the desktop, it stays in the login screen
[04:26] <user|51362> *Kubuntu
[04:26] <user|51362> please help me
[05:00] <Kubuntu_new> I have returned.
[05:00] <shaver_> Where do I download 64-bit kubuntu?
[05:01] <Kubuntu_new> and I've decided on the most relevant question. Does kubuntu have a generic touchscreen driver?
[05:05] <KurousagiMK2> shaver http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.10/release/
[05:08] <Kubuntu_new> it seems it might...
[05:08] <shaver_> Kur:Thanks. I'll try downloading the 64-bit version.
[05:10] <shaver_> I started the torrent download. Kubuntu 64-bit. Thanks again.
[05:10] <shaver> ok. I have to help the spouse fold clothes.
[06:01] <penelopa> Hello all! I have problem with Kubuntu 16.10. For my KDE work only with kernel 4.4.0-43. With kernel 4.8.0-22 not work. Please submitting bug report for developers.
[06:02] <penelopa> Kernel 4.8.0-22 not korrect work for my i960 chipset. Please report bug. KDE not work.
[06:09] <penelopa> Bad work KDE in my kubuntu 16.10, permanently crashed (((
[06:14] <valorie> penelopa: this is not where you report bugs
[06:15] <valorie> and you can run an old kernel if you want
[06:15] <valorie> !kernel
[06:21] <penelopa> valorie: With old kernel work, KDE plasma permanently crashed.
[06:22] <soee> crashed in what way ?
[06:35] <user|61986> will installing kunutu wipe al of my existing files?
[06:35] <user|61986> kubuntu? sorry
[06:40] <valorie> user|61986: depends on how you do it
[06:40] <valorie> if you say "use the entire disk" then yes
[06:47] <user|61986> thank you
[06:48] <penelopa> soee: Crashed on my i960 chipset periodical in 10-15 minutes. (((
[06:48] <penelopa> Kubuntu 16.10 - is awesome release.
 Need konsole terminal code to upgrade to 16.10 from 16.04
 Any help pls
[07:18] <CQ> hello, when can I do-release-upgrade my 16.04? does it take a few days to mirror?
 @soumyajitpal, in completely on console, make sure 'Prompt=normal' is set in '/etc/update-manager/release-upgrades'
 then run 'sudo do-release-upgrade'
 ok
 thanks
 @acheronuk
[07:34] <acheronuk> CQ: you may need to change the release upgrade mode as I just said to soumyajitpal
[07:34] <acheronuk> CQ: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?70922-Upgrade-for-Kubuntu-16-04-LTS&p=393807&viewfull=1#post393807
[07:35] <CQ> thanks, will chekc that leter.
[07:35] <CQ> later
[08:44] <vishnu_> hey guys!
[08:45] <vishnu_> * hey folks
[09:08] <afd_> which plasma version will be available in 16.10 ?
[09:13] <fml> it says 5.7.5
[09:13] <fml> and it's upgraded
[09:17] <jubo2> mmm..
[09:17] <jubo2> found a free 20W DC charger
[09:18] <jubo2> is from Acer but slides perfectly into a HP
[09:18] <jubo2> Now booting it to 16.10
[09:18] <jubo2> If the OS will install properly it does look like my travel computer privileges are reacquired
[09:19] <jubo2> 80 sec startup
[09:19] <jubo2> and X ain't up even yet lol
[09:19] <jubo2> Retro-compuuttahs!
[09:20] <jubo2> Hmmm.. I wonder what kind RAM this eats
[09:20] <jubo2> Was like 788MHz in BIOS
[09:20] <jubo2> DDR2 prlly
[09:21] <jubo2> Disk is 120GB and Windows XP is banish to lose persistent media 100% which gives me enough space
[09:40] <jubo2> Installation seems to be progressing with no probelms
[09:40] <jubo2> howevs semi-antique the HW is
[10:16] <jubo2> automatic chose 1.1GB SWAP
[10:16] <jubo2> please don't tell me this means the machine has 1GB RAM
[10:16] <jubo2> that'll be unusable. 2GB machines barely run modern GNU/Linukka
[10:17] <mparillo> I find kubuntu is the only kde distro that runs OK in 1GB for light surfing and Libre Office editing.
[10:45] <vip> hi ho
[10:56] <jubo2> oh shoot
[10:56] <jubo2> 1GB RAM
[10:56] <jubo2> This is gonna be like a flea in tar
[10:57] <jubo2> and I ain't talking about the bass player
[10:57] <jubo2> We try
[10:57] <jubo2> I 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade'
[10:58] <jubo2> "yakkety" I see
[10:58] <jubo2> what's the animal this October?
[10:58] <jubo2> And wts "Yakkety" imply?
[10:59] <jubo2> This is insanely slow, but at least I'll have connectivity
[11:01] <jubo2> Uhh.. Centrino Duo..
[11:01] <jubo2> This is not gonna take these 2x 2GB DDR3s I have here but lets try it still
[11:18] <poda4a> hello all. As I understood, there's no nice option to share all Kubuntu settings (key shortcuts, themes, Plasma settings etc.) across many machines. Am I correct? If so, does anyone know a good alternative to that? Maybe different distro?
[11:22] <hi2u> poda4a: you're talking about copying a few appearance and specific user settings?
[11:25] <hi2u> write a script containing all the changes and distribute it
[11:29] <dsealius> why okular is not installed by default on 16.10 release ?
[11:30] <dsealius> it launches libre office instead
[11:36] <poda4a> but how do i know where are ALL the changes?
[11:41] <BluesKaj_> Howdy folks
[11:50] <hi2u> poda4a: example?
[11:50] <poda4a> key bindings, all system settings?
[11:51] <poda4a> ...KNotes/Dolphin/Kmail settings
[11:51] <poda4a> this seems to be quite basic feature
 @acheronuk, thanks..  followed and downloaded 😄
[13:10] <giona> hi
 hi
 Hi, in 16.10 I always have an icon on the task bar sugesting me to intall flash as an additional package to Firefox..... How can I get rid of it (not installing flash obvioisly)
[14:20] <fml> IrcsomeBot: explain further
[14:29] <ikonia> it's a bot
[14:41] <topher> Hello
 @fml, I'll explain later, sorry afk
[16:34] <user|10429> Hey people, Any idea when will Plasma 8 be available on Kubuntu ?
[16:34] <user|10429> 5.8 I meant
 When it has been done for 17.04 developement version then backported. Can't give an exact ETA, but would like to see that ASAP.
[17:05]  * opal 💩  slaps Drone` around a bit with a large trout.  💩
[18:10] <j-b-m-> anybody has hints an upgrading from Kubuntu 16.04 to 16.10? Tried changing "release upgrade" to normal but no update shows up...
[18:11] <FatboyFitz> j-b-m-: Perhaps it is because 16.04 is a LTS - there should be an option to check to enable moving off a LTS
[18:14] <j-b-m-> Yes, that's what I changed in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades, I switched from LTS to normal
[18:14] <jubo2> This K16.10 is almost usable with 2007 CPU and 1GB RAM
[18:14] <jubo2> No worries. I have located some 2GB RAM that is with shipping 23,50€
[18:15] <jubo2> I know that's expensive but this will be a fine perfectly functional GNU/Linux once it's got 3GB RAM
[18:15] <jubo2> Memory price is strange, the older and therefore slower and smaller it is the more expensive it is per unit
[18:16] <jubo2> We should all hoard old RAM and lock it up for 50 yrs.. then all we need is someone who is desparate to get functional RAM to a 60 yr old machine and *KA-CHING*
[18:16] <BluesKaj> jubo2, ferer production runs makes it more expensive to serve that market
[18:17] <BluesKaj> fewer
[18:17]  * acheronuk looks in drawer. finds old 1GB RAM module
[18:17] <jubo2> I got a free power adapter, 8GB 1066MHz DDR3 RAM and a keyboard
[18:18] <jubo2> plus bought a 19" display (on credit) for 15€
[18:18] <acheronuk> Windows Vista ready on the packet.... Woooo.
[18:18] <jubo2> The 2nd hand computer pros at Sörnäinen got interesting prices for DDR2 800MHz RAM.
[18:18] <BluesKaj> i t cost me $50CDN for 3G Ram 2yrs ago for my 2008 HP
[18:18] <jubo2> 1GB == 2€
[18:19] <jubo2> 2GB == 20€
[18:19] <jubo2> that's +400% per unit if you want the rational choice
[18:21] <pato> in the past (older ubuntu releases) I could do "ping otherHost.local" and it worked, by searching the network and retreiving the IP automagically
[18:21] <pato> is that the zeroconf thing?
[18:22] <pato> and it is not working in recent installations anymore? (16.04)
[18:39] <pato> forget it, it works, just that looks like it takes some time
[19:04] <kuSuSE> guys, what's happening here? https://i.imgur.com/Q7VLi1x.png https://i.imgur.com/PbTEpoD.png it says plasma shell needs 5GB+ RAM just for itself?
[19:05] <hippybear> Oracle is burning up CPU?
[19:08] <kuSuSE> oracle who?
[19:08] <hippybear> VM
[19:09] <kuSuSE> well, the only intensive thing I'm running is that vagrant up
[19:10] <kuSuSE> which does use virtualbox yes
[19:10] <kuSuSE> but why does ksysguard report it as plasmashell with 5GB+ RAM?
[19:10] <hippybear> also how large is your CPU that 5Gigs is only 1%
[19:11] <kuSuSE> CPU usage is 1% but memory usage is over 50%
[19:11] <kuSuSE> i only have 8GB ram
[19:12] <hippybear> kill the VM and see if it goes down
[19:13] <kuSuSE> well it is at 20% I might let it finish
[19:14] <hippybear> what is that vagrant app?
[19:15] <hippybear> it is possible the code is causing an issue?
[19:16] <user|28305> kubuntu  for usb flash drive live session
[19:17] <ozonic> oi
[19:17] <ozonic> Pessoal
[19:19] <kuSuSE> vagrant is a way to "deploy" virtualbox images
[19:19] <kuSuSE> but why would ksysguard report memory usage by a process vagrant as by plasma shell?
[19:22] <kuSuSE> hippybear: closed vagrant and virtualbox and now plasmashell dropped to 4GB+
[19:22] <hippybear> hm
[19:22] <hippybear> thats weird
[19:22] <hippybear> what does top tell you?
[19:22] <kuSuSE> is this normal?
[19:23] <hippybear> personally I am only using .1%
[19:23] <hippybear> of a 5G CPU
[19:24] <hippybear> I think its actually 6 but I have 5.8 free
[19:24] <kuSuSE> something like this    20   0 9999.2m 4.297g  31664 S  16.3 55.5  65:07.00 plasmashell
[19:24] <hippybear> dang
[19:25] <hippybear> thats intense
[19:25] <kuSuSE> iotop looks pretty calm
[19:26] <hippybear> are you running k in a windows vm?
[19:26] <kuSuSE> my hard disk might be dying and I blame Windows for it
[19:26] <kuSuSE> hippybear: no not anymore
[19:26] <hippybear> weird
[19:26] <hippybear> I dont have a clue bruh
[19:26] <hippybear> :(
[19:26] <kuSuSE> haha no worries
[19:27] <kuSuSE> I kind of wish I could somehow capture system details so it would help someone debug it
[19:27] <hippybear> yeah
[19:27] <kuSuSE> if not I'll just reboot and see if it goes away
[19:27] <hippybear> do it!
[19:28] <kuSuSE> just reboot now?
[19:28] <hippybear> sure
[19:28] <kuSuSE> ok later
[19:28] <hippybear> k
[21:12] <V7> Do you know how to change nvidia resolution to the correct one if there is no correct one
[21:23] <mert> hey
[21:23] <Guest55754> hey
[21:25] <leumas> Hi All, ust upgraded to Kubuntu 16.10 and my wifi sno longer working...can anyone help or has seen this issue?
[21:26] <leumas> LenovoThinkpad T420i
[21:36] <jubo2> Next 2nd hand machine I'm getting. It has 4GB in one bank so I gonna bump it 8GB to 12GB
[21:36] <jubo2> the chip and the chipset is couple years newer than my bust system
[21:37] <jubo2> 8GB is not enough
[21:37] <jubo2> 16GB is overkill unless you need it
[21:40] <jubo2> and this fine machine with a http://ark.intel.com/products/29759/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-T7100-2M-Cache-1_80-GHz-800-MHz-FSB from 2007 is gonna get a memory bump
[21:40] <jubo2> plus I'm potentially getting a working panel w/ installation for the X201
[21:41] <jubo2> Pile up all the machines with working CPU's http://maidsafe.net is coming
[21:41] <jubo2> I gonna several terabytes in Lithuania
[21:41] <jubo2> and maybe even few in Nederlands
[21:42] <jubo2> depends on how much disposable income I have when the Beta goes online
[21:42] <jubo2> Usually Beta is rubbish to be avoided (especially if commercial)
[21:43] <jubo2> but the SAFE Network has been in hard and professional R&D for 10 yrs now
[21:43] <jubo2> currently is TestNet 9
[21:43] <jubo2> Beta will be the first version that is persistent
[21:49] <Quantos> Hello to the room.  I'm running KUbuntu 16.04 and my USB headset doesn't work.  I used a program before to change the priorities of speaker and headset.  I can't remember what it was called though
[21:50] <Quantos> This is a fresh reinstall so I don't think it's a problem with the headset
[22:00] <Quantos> Got it fixed, thanks anyway guys
[22:28] <viewer|54484> is thre a command line way to upgrade from 16.04.1 to 16.1?
[22:29] <viewer|54484> like the same one that the ISO is on the download page?
[22:30] <viewer|54484> is thre a command line way to upgrade from 16.04.1 to 16.1?
[22:30] <viewer|54484> like the same one that the ISO is on the download page?
[22:30] <genii> viewer|54484: sudo apt update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ...to make sure 16.04 is up to date. then: sudo do-release-upgrade