[02:25] <Qasker> if anyone wonders why people do not use linux as their primary desktop, I would point them towards the not-well-put-together, effing garbage upgrades the developers put them through
[02:26] <Qasker> Just upgraded to 16.04 bc I was forced to, updates no longer available for previous version, and I am left with a half working desktop
[02:26] <Qasker> I know tech shit and can put the work and time in, but it is frustrating bc I should not have to
[02:28] <Qasker> others, who don't have the time or knowledge are stuck, and will go to the system that "just works", which at this point, is effing Windows, which is super sad, and disgraceful, for linux
[02:29] <Qasker> I had less problems upgrading a client to windows 10 from windows 7, even with the extra steps of turing off the privacy shit, than I did with this linux upgrade
[02:29] <Qasker> that is pathetic
[02:29]  * Qasker points finger
[07:03] <LioneLL> 16.10 is out  :)
[07:16] <JockeTF> Sweet!
[11:03] <aredpanda`w> Hey guys, will there be an upgrade option through the OS or do I need to use a live image to install 16.10?
[11:03] <aredpanda`w> I'm on 16.06 atm
[11:04] <JockeTF> aredpanda`w: You'll be able to upgrade your current installation.
[11:04] <JockeTF> (You can even do it right now, if you so desire.)
[11:04] <aredpanda`w> do-release-upgrade tells me no updates found, what other options to I have
[11:06] <JockeTF> aredpanda`w: It might be set to look only for LTS releases. Look at the "software & updates" application. Go to the Update tab, and change the "notify me of a new Ubuntu version" option.
[11:06] <aredpanda`w> huh, my bad! I had the software updater set to only notify me of LTS updates!
[11:06] <JockeTF> Yeah. :)
[11:06] <aredpanda`w> tyty
[11:07] <JockeTF> As long as you haven't derped around too much with PPAs and stuff it should be rather painless.
[11:33] <aredpanda`w> I've had a couple ppas but nothing that replaces system stuff
[11:33] <aredpanda`w> It warned be they'd be turned off for the upgrade, should be fine
[13:30] <pchoo> Hi all, Got an optimus based laptop (i7-6700HQ, VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Skylake Integrated Graphics (rev 06), 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM108M [GeForce 940M] (rev a2)
[13:30] <pchoo> ) - What's the best recommendation for getting graphics set up?
[13:32] <fleetfox> optimus? :D good luck
[13:33] <pchoo> fleetfox: i expected a response like that haha
[13:34] <fleetfox> tbh, i'm not up to date with current situation
[13:36] <pchoo> I know that gdm has problems using the drivers
[13:36] <pchoo> in that you get a black screen and can't login
[13:36] <pchoo> I'm on 16.04 ubuntu gnome with lightdm instead of gdm
[13:36] <pchoo> and that *kinda* works
[13:37] <pchoo> I get some weird screen tearing, it lags a bit sometimes and my battery dies super fast
[13:38] <fleetfox> iirc it was really hard to make both cards work as expected but if you were fine with running only one of them all time there was a way
[13:39] <pchoo> mmm, There appear to be some issues with the nvidia drivers, I think I've got 361 installed
[13:39] <pchoo> most of what I'm reading suggests it's best to just use bumblebee and optirun or primusrun the apps you want it for
[13:39] <pchoo> so it remains disabled most of the time
[13:42] <pchoo> I much prefer Gnome to Unity, so I'll probably format, install 16.10 , lightdm, then set up bumblebee
[13:42] <pchoo> I'll let you know how that goes haha
[14:53] <JockeTF> Will there be a (non-staging) PPA for bringing Yakkety up to 3.22?