[01:00] <arrrghhh> hey all.  so I've got a new disk and I am trying to migrate everything to a new install... I'm not sure I'll be able to do any sort of 'export' on LVM, is there some way I can import these to the new install?
[01:12] <blueking> I am on ubuntu 14.04 LTS server version   I have noticed that /boot has been constant for 2-3 months    this means there are no updates of kernel for a long time ?
[01:12] <arrrghhh> blueking: you should probably update to 16.04 now that .1 is out
[01:13] <blueking> hmm need to make new install or are it safe to do update with none corruption of setup ?
[01:14] <arrrghhh> well nothing is guaranteed
[01:14] <blueking> experienced issues with nic names changing  after some upgrades :/
[01:15] <blueking> eth0/1  -> em1/2  and so on
[01:15] <arrrghhh> I don't know why that would cause issues but ok
[01:16] <sarnold> blueking: infact a kernel was released very recently https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux
[01:16] <blueking> ok
[01:17] <blueking> does there exist tool that makes backup of ALL system drive included partitions ?
[01:18] <tarpman> dd(1) ?
[01:18] <sarnold> dd can do that
[01:18] <blueking> dd ?
[01:22] <sarnold> yeah; if you've got a fully-installed hard drive in /dev/sda and you want to clone it to a drive in /dev/sdb you could use dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=128K   -- I added the bs 'block size' argument to try to get it to use an IO request size that most drives would be better at
[01:24] <blueking> if make image copy to another drive ?
[01:25] <blueking> if put ssd on windows computer and make image copy of all disc ?
[01:25] <sarnold> dd is wonderful, it can do a lot more than just cloning hard drives :)
[01:27] <blueking> well  problem are that I have only one ubuntu/linux computer :P
[01:28] <blueking> if system gets fucked up in an upgrade.. it's not easy to revert changes ?
[01:28] <sarnold> correct, there's currently no good way to revert broken upgrades. Hopefully we'll get that some day.
[01:28] <blueking> my GF would be mad at me if I would need to spend lot time to bring router(pc) back online...
[01:29] <blueking> need to make backup of all ssd drive on windows
[07:17] <aybuke> Hi everyone :) I have one question. I have one HP sl250s Gen 8 server. (on 8 disk and hardware RAID(1+0)). I'm tring install Ubuntu 16.04 on this server. But disk detect part pass directly. I guess Ubuntu cant see 2 logical volume. (Raid card b320i) I tried this solution (http://h20564.www2.hpe.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c04439186) bu
[07:17] <aybuke> t nothing change. This installation is possible? If it is, do you have any suggestions?
[07:19] <Smurphy> You install on a specific set of disks? What I did on my Microserver gen8 was to add a SSD disk for the OS, so the Storage disks are used solely for storage.
[07:19] <Smurphy> Then I installed, and could fiddle around with the drivers.
[07:19] <Smurphy> I don't like the hardware raid. If something breaks and you don't find a spare controller, your data is gone too ... (Happened to me back in time).
[07:28] <aybuke> Smurphy: I understand and thank you :) I use SaS disk and I enabled lisance for Raid.
[07:29] <aybuke> Besides, I dont like hw raid but they want this :/.
[07:34] <Smurphy> well. Then you will need to get the drivers in first somehow.
[07:35] <aybuke> I guess, I found them there link: https://launchpad.net/~hp-iss-team/+archive/ubuntu/hp-storage
[07:36] <Lt_Lemming> Hi all, trying to use ubuntu server to setup a kiosk machine booting into Chrome
[07:37] <Lt_Lemming> running dpk-reconfigure x11-common is spitting out an error about "start and stop actions are no longer supporter"
[07:37] <Lt_Lemming> supported*
[07:37] <Lt_Lemming> sooo... how do I reconfigure x11 now?
[07:37] <Lt_Lemming> server 16.10 btw
[09:00] <C4L> Hello, I just wanted to ask one thing.. I had a server on which I had installed Ubuntu 14.04 and then used IPMI to setup Windows Server 2012. I want to reinstall everything, so I took the server into rescue mode. Right now I'm connected to the server via FTP using the rescue mode credentials, but I'm unsure where the location to both C:\ and D:\ are via FTP. Can anybody please help?
[09:26] <ikonia> C4L: that will depend on your ftp server and your file system layout
[09:29] <C4L> Hey ikonia
[09:29] <C4L> I did manage to find that C:\ was infact /dev/sda1
[09:29] <C4L> and D:\ was /dev/sda2
[09:29] <ikonia> no, thats a device file
[09:29] <ikonia> not a mount point
[09:29] <C4L> Oh
[09:29] <ikonia> ftp will not be able to use /dev
[09:29] <C4L> Yeah because I tried mounting it, I wasn't able to do so
[11:29] <Andrew__> I've just run a conjure-up for openstack all services succeeded except cinder as I had a typo in the cidr notation - is there a way to fix this and redeploy?
[15:39] <GrandPa-G> I want a service to restart another service whenever it is restarted. How?
[17:28] <peer-hh> 	I'm getting "No space left on device" errors while trying to upgrade a remote server. The unsuccessful commend tries to use /tmp for which df -hT shows "overflow       tmpfs     1.0M  1.0M     0 100% /tmp" How can I make this partition bigger or otherwise solve this problem?
[17:45] <peer-hh> So I can't upgrade any more and the situation is stuck.
[17:46] <nacc> peer-hh: did you possibly run out of disk at some point?
[17:46] <nacc> peer-hh: actual disk, i mean
[17:47] <nacc> peer-hh: iirc, the overflow tmpfs is a safety check for when / is full and you can't run anything to solve it
[17:47] <peer-hh> it's only the /tmp thing which is at 0.
[17:47] <nacc> peer-hh: not right now, but at anytime recently
[17:47] <peer-hh> it happens while making an initramfs
[17:47] <nacc> peer-hh: what happens?
[17:48] <peer-hh> the errors
[17:48] <nacc> peer-hh: you're not answering my question
[17:48] <peer-hh> many lines like "cp: failed to extend '/tmp/mkinitramfs_QciUOf//sbin/blkid': No space left on device" and the "apt-get upgrade" thus fails.
[17:48] <nacc> peer-hh: has, at anytime recently, your system run out of actual disk space, in particular for /
[17:48] <peer-hh> no, as far as I can tell
[17:49] <nacc> peer-hh: if you are sure, you should be able to umount the overflow tmpfs on /tmp; or reboot and it should be fine
[17:49] <peer-hh> there are 12 G available on /
[17:49] <peer-hh> ok, I'll give it a try
[17:51] <peer-hh> ok, it looks fine now, after a reboot. upgrades as usual. seems solved. thank you!
[18:16] <Onepamopa> BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request -- while getting yakkety sources via git
[18:16] <Onepamopa> can anyone tell me what's failing: http://pastebin.com/yJBu5qb8
[18:21] <sarnold> Onepamopa: yikes. please file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug linux'.
[18:22] <Onepamopa> I'll try with an older version of ubuntu first, need that PC working asap.. :)
[18:22] <yeats> Onepamopa: http://askubuntu.com/questions/408341/bug-unable-to-handle-kernel-paging-request-at-while-installing-ubuntu (points to setting nomodeset as the solution)
[18:24] <Onepamopa> yeats, thanks, will give it a show..
[18:24] <Onepamopa> shot*
[18:43] <Onepamopa> Resolving deltas: 100% (4233802/4233802), done.
[18:43] <Onepamopa> error: index-pack died of signal 9
[18:43] <Onepamopa> fatal: index-pack failed
[18:44] <Onepamopa> aaand it died again
[18:44] <sarnold> Onepamopa: is that with nomodeset or an older kernel?
[18:45] <Onepamopa> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset acpi_osi=\"Linux\""
[18:45] <Onepamopa> let me check what's @ syslog ...
[18:46] <Onepamopa> this time there were more stack traces and bug messages
[18:48] <DexterF> greetings. installed 16.04, rebooted, cannot login. thought I might have doen it and mistyped the passwd twice, put the disk on this machine here and to my surprise cannot find the user I created in passwd/shadow
[18:49] <DexterF> am confused. what happened here?
[18:49] <nacc> DexterF: netsplit i'm guessing
[18:50] <Onepamopa> DexterF, why not try to install it again
[18:50] <Onepamopa> doesn't take that long
[18:50] <sarnold> DexterF: which 16.04 did you use? was it labeled something like "16.04 LTS" or more like "ubuntu core 16"?
[18:51] <DexterF> sarnold: the mini.iso from u/server dload page actually
[18:51] <DexterF> uggghhh
[18:52] <Onepamopa> o yeah, netsplit
[18:52] <Onepamopa> dont you just love when that happens
[18:52] <sarnold> DexterF: hmm. that's very confusing indeed.
[18:55] <DexterF> sarnold: so the login system did not change in a weird way, there really is something odd, yes?
[18:55] <sarnold> DexterF: yeah. the ubuntu core thing may wind up adding users to a /var/*mumblesomething*/extrausers database instead of the usual /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd database
[18:56] <sarnold> DexterF: and it could be that there's something busted on the mini.iso :/
[18:56] <sarnold> DexterF: if you've got the time to retry and investgate, that'd be nice :) but if you don't, maybe the 'usual' server iso would be more likely to succeed
[18:57] <DexterF> sarnold: aimed at an as-slim-as-possible install, thus was recommended here to try mini.iso.
[18:57] <DexterF> sarnold: no such dir in /var
[18:57] <sarnold> DexterF: *nod* I've used it in the past myself for the same reasons :)
[18:58] <sarnold> DexterF: how about 'find /mnt/var/ -name '*extra*' ? I can't recall the exact name..
[18:59] <rharper>  /var/lib/extrausers/  according to man 8 pam_extrausers
[19:12] <DexterF> rharper: mmmnope, no such dir here
[19:12] <DexterF> sarnold: that's what I did, isn't there
[19:12] <rharper> DexterF: yeah, it's not created by default; if you want to use extrausers, something has to create it
[19:12] <DexterF> ok, then it should be "classic"
[19:13] <DexterF> does the server flavor have a root account?
[19:13] <sarnold> no
[19:14] <sarnold> you can create one of course but it's not available by default
[19:14] <rharper> typically you create a user during install which gets sudo privs for access to root
[19:14] <sarnold> rharper: aye, he says that's the bit that's broken
[19:14] <rharper> on which iso ?
[19:15] <sarnold> mini.iso
[19:15] <rharper> that sounds a but fundamental, iso tests for yakkety are passing as are xenial;  powersj around ?
[19:15] <rharper> sarnold: yakkety? or xenial ?
[19:15] <sarnold> rharper: yakkety
[19:16] <rharper> k
[19:16]  * powersj boots his vm he used with the yakkety mini.iso
[19:17] <DexterF> when you need to debug a machine and you have only acer monitors. (good panels, but take ages to detect modes. no POST messages for you.)
[19:17] <powersj> sarnold: I do recall creating a user and sure enough have my local powersj user
[19:17] <rharper> sarnold: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/yakkety/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso ?
[19:17] <sarnold> DexterF: ^^ is that the mini.iso you used?
[19:17] <sarnold> powersj: woot.
[19:17] <DexterF> no, xenial
[19:18] <rharper> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[19:18] <sarnold> argh! sorry powersj, rharper :(
[19:18] <powersj> no worries, let me give it a try
[19:18] <rharper> I wish that link had the SHA sums there ...
[19:18] <sarnold> that'd be really surprising, xenial's been out for a while
[19:19] <sarnold> rharper: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-amd64/current/images/SHA256SUMS and http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-amd64/current/images/SHA256SUMS.gpg
[19:19] <rharper> sarnold: heh, but not in the same path =)
[19:20] <sarnold> yeah, but at least they're there :)
[19:20] <rharper> y
[19:20] <powersj> hmm this is looking odd. Did not ask me for user creds before installing base system
[19:20] <rharper> heh
[19:20] <rharper> sounds like the bug
[19:20] <powersj> oh there it goes, asked me after base system, then setup time
[19:21] <DexterF> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD  <- first iso listed on that page
[19:21] <DexterF> is the one I used
[19:21] <powersj> guess that was loading things, not doing base system
[19:22] <powersj> md5 of the one I tried matches that - can confirm created a user
[19:22] <DexterF> powersj: well. any way to recover?
[19:23] <powersj> That part is the standard 4 screens worth to: full name, user name, password x2
[19:24] <powersj> You could boot a livecd or into recovery mode, mount the disk, and see what is in /home for the username and change the password that way
[19:24] <powersj> if there isn't anything critical on the system, I would just reinstall at that point
[19:27] <rharper> powersj: where is the iso test report page for the mini.iso ?  I didn't see it on the jenkins.ubuntu.com/server
[19:27] <DexterF> powersj: the funky thing is there is no line for that use in passwd. I know the name, it's not in passwd/shadow, that's what irritates me most to begin with
[19:28] <sarnold> DexterF: did anything get logged?
[19:28] <rharper> DexterF: so you have a homedir but nothing in passwd/shadow ?
[19:29] <DexterF> rharper: hard to tell about home since I cannot log in, it sits on an md raid.
[19:29] <DexterF> sarnold: let me check
[19:29] <rharper> then how do you know there's no line in passwd/shadow ?
[19:29] <powersj> rharper: mini.iso would fall under the netboot ISO I believe on the ISO tracker here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/
[19:29] <rharper> other than you can't login?
[19:30] <rharper> powersj: ah, ok
[19:30] <DexterF> rharper: plucked the disk and hooked it to this computer for examination
[19:30] <rharper> it's likely that the useradd failed ; seems unlikely to have created home and populated it while failing to update passwd/shadow
[19:34] <DexterF> I have a theory what happened
[19:35] <DexterF> said /home md is a raid5, and I had a flaky sata cable on one drive. wait. bad theory. I was up to: during setup one disk fails, /home becomes inaccessible, user creation fails silently.
[19:36] <DexterF> but then again one failed disk on raid5 is exactly what md should cover
[19:36] <DexterF> unless /home became unresponsive due to disk sync errors
[19:36] <Onepamopa> What are the chances 2 " BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request" messages to appear on the monitor but not @ syslog (after reboot)?
[19:37] <Onepamopa> I scrolled them up, made a photo then rebooted
[19:38] <sarnold> Onepamopa: when things go wrong in the kernel it's quite possible that too much is broken to actually write logs to disk; I'd hope BUGs would still get written, but when paging requests can't be handled, there's something very wrong.
[19:38] <Onepamopa> sarnold, this happened on both 16.10 and 16.04.1
[19:38] <Onepamopa> Im surface-checking the disk for errors now...
[19:39] <Onepamopa> after that it's time to check the memory too ....
[19:42] <Onepamopa> tho, the pc was running freebsd 10 without problems
[19:42] <Onepamopa> weird..
[20:57] <DexterF> ok, superweird. am in rescue mode, cannot see the raid5 with /home at all
[20:58] <DexterF>  /proc/partitions does not show them at all
[20:58] <DexterF> simple sata disks on a simple intel chipset
[21:01] <DexterF> nvm, show after hw rescan
[21:15] <DexterF> managed to enter rescue mode. there was no user created in the dirst place. i added one with adduser now, but I doubt it will have the sudo-ubuntu privileges. how do I add that?
[21:20] <DexterF> I now added that user to the sudo group. web manuals suggest adding to "admin", too, but there is no such group
[21:23] <DexterF> boots, logs in as user, can sudo. yay.
[21:54] <DexterF> installed lxqt metapackage. no there is ofonod. on a server. wth?
[21:55] <tsimonq2> DexterF: what metapackage?
[21:55] <DexterF> tsimonq2: "lxqt"
[21:55] <tsimonq2> if it's from the Lubuntu Development PPA, don't expect it to be stable
[21:55] <tsimonq2> ok good
[21:55] <nacc> DexterF: what is 'ofonod'?
[21:56] <tsimonq2> ^
[21:56] <DexterF> telephony daemon
[21:56] <nacc> descender: presumably it's some base part of the LXQt desktop environment?
[21:56] <DexterF> ofonod is a daemon which provides an oFono stack for interfacing mobile
[21:56] <DexterF>        telephony devices.
[21:57] <DexterF> ok, so more like bt2droid storage access or sumsuch. that makes sense then.
[22:12] <tsimonq2> nacc: not that I know of
[22:19] <nacc> tsimonq2: ok, wasn't sure why else it would get pulled in via deps
[22:20] <tsimonq2> !info ofonod
[22:20] <tsimonq2> :/
[22:20] <nacc> tsimonq2: it's ofono
[22:20] <nacc> afaict
[22:20] <tsimonq2> !info ofono
[22:20] <tsimonq2> oh
[22:21] <tsimonq2> ah yes
[22:21] <tsimonq2>   Recommends: connman
[22:21] <tsimonq2> that's pulled in by lxqt I think