[06:58] <andrewlsd> Morngin ubuntu-za Kilos
[07:02] <Kilos> hi andrewlsd and the rest of za
[07:03] <Kilos> i see we have someone in the dark
[07:03] <Kilos> hello night
[08:38] <inetpro> good mornings
[09:06] <Langjan> Hi Kilos hoe gaan dit nou?
[09:16] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[09:17] <Kilos> dit gaan goed so ver dankie
[09:17] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[09:17] <Kilos> and thatgraemeguy and everyone else
[09:18] <thatgraemeguy> aloha
[09:20] <Langjan> Mooi so, is jy gesond?
[09:25] <Kilos> ek voel gesond, maar mag min doen net ingeval
[09:25] <Kilos> die debs sit op my kop
[09:26] <Kilos> en sy kerm heel tyd oor die twee Bypass operasies wat nog kom
[09:34] <pavlushka> ahot ZA!
[09:34] <pavlushka> ahoy ZA!
[09:34] <Kilos> hi pavlushka 
[09:35] <Langjan> Ai broer, sterkte vir jou. Groete daar, dink aan jou.  
[09:35] <Langjan> Hi pavlushka 
[09:35] <Kilos> dankie baie my vriend
[09:35] <Kilos> ek voel goed,
[09:35] <pavlushka> Kilos: hello :)
[09:35] <pavlushka> Hi Langjan :)
[09:35] <Langjan> Ek is bly
[09:46] <Langjan> Kilos, jy moet groete sê vir jou meisies. Sal jy langer kan bly? 
[09:47] <Kilos> ek weet nog nie Langjan , ons sal eers moet vra
[09:47] <Kilos> sal groete gee hier , dankie. doen selle vir my daar by jou asb
[09:48] <Kilos> ek sal moet huistoe vir die bypass operasies. kannie weer hier hospitaal toe gaan nie
[09:49] <Langjan> Kon julle regkom met die betalings?
[09:49] <Kilos> nog nie
[09:49] <Kilos> skuld nog baie
[09:52] <Langjan> Ai broer, dis 'n lollery. Is daar lig in die tonnel?
[09:53] <Kilos> ons kan net bid. verder is dit uit ons hande
[09:54] <Kilos> hulle sal moet 50-100 dollar n maand moet aanvaar as hulle ernstig raak
[09:54] <Kilos> so ver het hulle nog nie begin baklei nie
[10:14] <Langjan> Ja mens kan net doen wat jy kan, baie sterkte daar!
[10:15] <Langjan> Dis seker al slaaptyd, lekker slaap
[10:29] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[10:30] <pavlushka> night Kilos :)
[15:41] <inetpro> andrewlsd: how do you manage time synchronisation on virtual machines?
[15:41] <inetpro> surely time should just stay in sync with the host hardware that it is running on and there should be no need to configure NTP?
[15:42] <inetpro> obviously you want the host to stay in sync with a NTP source
[15:45] <inetpro> looking at output of top on a Ubuntu VM server it's kinda strange to see /lib/systemd/systemd-timesyncd at the top of the list of processes
[15:46] <inetpro> makes me question whether it should even be running at all
[19:48] <chesedo-> inetpro: a VM operating system does not know that it is a VM, so will use the same way to manage time as any other system... so i think atleast
[19:55] <MaNI> not entirely true, I mean these days a VM operating system does know most the time - while it's true it is possible to prevent it knowing if ou really really wnat
[20:00] <MaNI> e.g. "Linux adds the hypervisor flag to /proc/cpuinfo if the kernel detects running on some sort of a hypervisor."
[20:22] <inetpro> http://serverfault.com/questions/334698/how-to-keep-time-on-resumed-kvm-guest-with-libvirt
[20:24] <inetpro> don't think the link above really answers my question but is interesting nevertheless
[20:29] <inetpro> superfly: by the way, have you upgraded your quasseldroid yet?
[20:30] <inetpro> awesome new look and feel updates 
[20:32]  * inetpro really likes it! 
[20:35] <chesedo-> MaNI: interesting
[20:41] <inetpro> Quassedroid: Current Version: 0.11.7, Updated: September 25, 2016, Size: 2.9M, Requires Android: 4.0 and up
[20:41] <inetpro> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iskrembilen.quasseldroid&hl=en
[20:42] <superfly> inetpro: a long time ago 
[20:42] <Maaz> superfly: By the way, kulelu88 on freenode told me "tell superfly : if you're around, please ping me. Having issues with wsgi" 1 day, 51 minutes and 33 seconds ago
[20:42] <superfly> Ai
[20:43] <superfly> I'm not around much at the moment 
[20:45] <superfly> Maaz: tell kulelu88 ping me on Telegram, same user name as here
[20:45] <Maaz> superfly: Righto, I'll tell kulelu88 on freenode
[20:46] <superfly> I need to get some sleep
[20:48] <inetpro> do people still use Telegram?
[20:49] <tumbleweed> yeah, some people do, heavily
[20:49] <tumbleweed> network effects are strange
[20:49] <tumbleweed> some groups won't use anything except it
[20:49] <tumbleweed> others, slack
[20:49] <tumbleweed> others, whatsapp
[20:49] <tumbleweed> others, fb messanger
[20:51] <inetpro> wow tumbleweed, you're still here even as well, and that on a Friday evening as well? :-)
[20:51] <inetpro> or is that morning on your side?