[08:00] <second> any americans or russia
[08:02] <Gargoyle> mornin'
[08:04] <second> YO
[08:48] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:10] <Gargoyle> morning brobostigon
[09:12] <brobostigon> morning Gargoyle
[12:48] <CoderEurope> Daftykins, well done in getting your game gear sorted out !
[13:56] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[13:57]  * penguin42 yaaawwwwnnns at bigcalm
[15:50] <bigcalm> WiFi isn't consistent at this Turkish holiday resort
[15:52] <penguin42> perhaps it needs basting?
[15:54] <bigcalm> It was 28°C for most of the 10 days here. Flying back to Blighty is going to be a shock to the system
[15:55]  * bigcalm checks the weather report
[15:57] <bigcalm> 14°C and wet :(
[15:57] <penguin42> yeh it's getting colder, hasn't got wet here, but it's thinking about it
[16:09] <diddledan> bigcalm: as long as there isn't any cooing until after you get back! (couping?)
[16:09] <diddledan> sorry, I shouldn't sow the seed of doubt
[16:09] <bigcalm> Back, don't. My parents were somewhat concerned about us coming here
[16:10] <bigcalm> s/Back/Ack
[16:10] <diddledan> :-) it'll be fine :-)
[16:10] <bigcalm> I know...
[16:10] <diddledan> if not, I'll sit on someone as punishment
[16:11] <diddledan> <-- big fella
[16:11] <bigcalm> Ha
[16:11] <bigcalm> At this all inclusive resort, I've been going that way muskeg
[16:12] <bigcalm> Myself
[16:12] <diddledan> good fooding there?
[16:21] <zmoylan-pi> as someone in ireland, i'll just warn you the rain is on the way, repeat, the rain is on the way...
[16:23] <diddledan> dear lord!
[16:23]  * diddledan finds the nearest fallout shelter
[16:24] <zmoylan-pi> it was only code yellow rain so probably heavy showers by time it gets there...
[16:24] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: Well, if you take all the rain that'll be good; just dont leave any for us
[16:24] <zmoylan-pi> and underground fallout shelters would be last place i'd head for :-)
[16:25] <zmoylan-pi> a rnli lifeboat would be optimal
[16:25] <penguin42> a lighthouse?
[16:26] <zmoylan-pi> most lighthouses are now automatic and have no living quarters anymore
[16:27] <diddledan> they're the first to rise-up when the machine rebellion begins
[16:27] <penguin42> nowhere even for an engineer to camp out ?
[16:28] <zmoylan-pi> the living quarters if not maintained would be fairly bad after even a mere decade of non maintenance
[16:28]  * diddledan bursts into a rendition of "Transformers, Robots in these guys"
[16:28] <diddledan> what do you mean I did it wrong?!
[17:04] <daftykins> diddledan: ;) hows the fruity patient?
[17:04] <diddledan> gone off to their repair centre now
[17:04] <diddledan> be back in about a week mayhaps
[17:04] <daftykins> ah they can't even do stuff in house? shocking
[17:11] <zmoylan-pi> thy don't have the necessary holy tools?
[17:18] <daftykins> must be a reseller only :D
[17:21] <diddledan> tis an official apple store :-p
[17:21] <daftykins> *gasp*
[17:21] <daftykins> i see our local reseller shop (one of them) has now moved into fancy larger premises - shows they're making a few quid
[17:21] <daftykins> rent on the high-street here is probably £60,000+ per year
[17:22] <zmoylan-pi> ...or the closure of most of the other shops as retail moves online has left the retail market a lot of empty locations they're desperate to fill
[17:24] <zmoylan-pi> i've seen a few shops around my local town move to new premises after decades in old locations
[17:35] <penguin42> yeh quite a lot of shuffling going on in Manchester
[17:38] <daftykins> ours just charge so much rent that companies start, fail and fold up within weeks
[17:39] <zmoylan-pi> same problem here... worked with a guy who sold restaurant equipment.  he reckoned most restaurants started in the failed remains of previous restaurant or at least their equipment
[17:40] <penguin42> Manchester seems to have had problems with losing some businesses due to ever-continuing building due to trying to expand the tram network, just leaving shops half-cut off for ages
[17:41] <zmoylan-pi> dublin is currently ripping up centre of city to reinstall tram tracks ripped out in 1960s
[17:42] <zmoylan-pi> when i learned to cycle in late 70s there were still roads around my house that had the tracks laid down.
[17:43] <penguin42> yeh, Manc has had them for ages but they keep adding more
[17:43] <daftykins> :) seems loads of places are bringing them back
[17:43] <zmoylan-pi> i suspect leccy buses will eliminate their advantage soon enough so they'll end up ripping them out all over again
[17:43] <daftykins> had one such road with the rails still in, in Portsmouth
[17:43] <penguin42> we've had them for ~20 years
[17:44] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: http://new.abb.com/smartcities/transport/electric-buses/flash-charging  is a scary solution to that
[17:44] <zmoylan-pi> instead of needing tracks + overhead lines a leccy bus with kinetic or capictor storage could eliminate need for tracks or as much overhead
[17:45] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: We've got a 'guided busway' (there's also one in Cambridge)
[17:45] <zmoylan-pi> a bus could top up at every bus stop and route around accidents unlike trams which have to wait for tracks to be cleared
[17:46] <penguin42> yeh
[22:49] <daftykins> i'm off to bed, have a good week all \o
[22:51] <zmoylan-pi> sleep well o/