[00:09] <verticle1ert> hey everyone, I have been having an issue since I switched to openbox with my touchpad being too sensitive to the point that its useless. What should I look into to reduce issues with the touchpad?
[00:11] <Steve973> Will xenial LTS ever be upgraded to something beyond a 4.4 kernel?
[00:14] <staeksauce> Ubuntu recognizes my cd drive, but I can't play any cd's, it just keeps adding "audio disc" entries into the left pane of the file explorer
[00:15] <Steve973> staeksauce: any relevant messages in dmesg?
[00:16] <speleo> Hello all. I just installed Ubuntu Server 16.04.1 on an Apple XServe 2.4 and it seems that after successful installation GRUB does not see my HD
[00:17] <staeksauce> Steve973, I don't really know what I'm looking for
[00:17] <chrome037> Why would running `google-chrome` from terminal produce this: ERROR:browser_main_loop.cc(260)] Gtk: cannot open display:
[00:19] <nicomachus> chrome037: try google-chrome-stable
[00:19] <chrome037> nicomachus: Same error when I run "google-chrome-stable"
[00:20] <adamsilver> What is 'Type=forking' in systemd? What is forking?
[00:20] <nicomachus> chrome037: do you have an X display session?
[00:20] <nicomachus> adamsilver: you might be able to get a more detailed answer from #systemd
[00:21] <chrome037> I don't know what that means.
[00:21] <chrome037> nicomachus: I don't know what that means.
[00:21] <nicomachus> chrome037: are you trying to start Chrome over SSH? or on a server with no GUI?
[00:22] <chrome037> I am trying to run this on a digitalocean droplet. I am connected via SSH, yes.
[00:22] <chrome037> nicomachus: I am trying to run this on a digitalocean droplet. I am connected via SSH, yes.
[00:22] <nicomachus> chrome037: then you need to use the -X option in order to open Chrome.
[00:23] <nicomachus> so 'ssh -X hostname@location'
[00:23] <chrome037> Oh, while I have your ear, how can I close google-chrome without exiting my remote connection?
[00:23] <nicomachus> then you can start Chrome and it will open on your current display
[00:23] <nicomachus> exit Chrome (or any application) with 'sudo pkill <package-name>'
[00:24] <nicomachus> Chrome is a bit special because you may have to do it more than once to kill every instance.
[00:24] <chrome037> Oh, duh, OK thanks.
[00:24] <chrome037> Yeah, I just meant I tried exit google-chrome, and it terminated my session.
[00:24] <nicomachus> If you notice some slowness, you can also use the -C flag on your SSH to compress everything a bit.
[00:25] <nicomachus> yea, well exit just means exit. haha. and doesn't take any options.
[00:26] <nicomachus> verticlebert: you can try messing with xinput settings
[00:26] <nicomachus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input
[00:26] <pimpbot> [ X/Config/Input - Ubuntu Wiki ] - wiki.ubuntu.com
[00:27] <nicomachus> uhhh... what's pimpbot?
[00:28] <snkcld> what part of ubuntu's resolvconf configuration creates /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf? i ask because, in gentoo, that file doesnt exist
[00:28] <chrome037> nicomachus: Wait I don't think that helps me because google-chrome will need to be used by another program, a program that is activated by a PHP action form. You see the dilemma?
[00:29] <nicomachus> chrome037: you mean when you're trying to kill it?
[00:29] <chrome037> No, when eventually it will be called for use.
[00:30] <nicomachus> I don't follow, sorry
[00:30] <chrome037> nicomachus: No, when it is eventually called for use.
[00:31] <nicomachus> yea I saw that, but I don't follow. Are you saying you won't be able to start Chrome because it will already be in use by another program?
[00:32] <chrome037> I mean a PHP script is requested. In this PHP script is a line that executes a Ruby script, in this Ruby script is line that executes google-chrome. How do ssh attributes help if the person ultimately requesting google-chrome is just a guy filling in a form?
[00:32] <chrome037> nicomachus: "...be in use by another program..." No, but that is something I also need to think about.
[00:33] <nicomachus> if the script is running on a headless server (no GUI), then you can't start google-chrome. You'd have to use a GUI-less browser.
[00:33] <nicomachus> or tools like wget or curl
[00:33] <nicomachus> I think, at least. getting outside my realm of knowledge.
[00:33]  * nicomachus is not a coder, just likes his *buntu
[00:33] <chrome037> nicomachus: How can I see if this server is GUI-less?
[00:34] <nicomachus> did you install it?
[00:34] <chrome037> Install the server? I enacted it into creation by creating a droplet via digitalocean.
[00:43] <paulg50> is it possible to kill an external sd drive by unplugging it during transfer
[00:43] <nicomachus> idk about "kill", but you can corrupt the data
[00:44] <nicomachus> especially if it's encrypted.
[00:44] <paulg50> i just can't fix it nicomachus
[00:44] <paulg50> it may have been encrypted
[00:44] <paulg50> can't remember
[00:44] <paulg50> it was only 60 gig i should bin it
[00:44] <paulg50> i just don't like not being able to fix it
[00:45] <paulg50> an ego thing
[00:45] <paulg50> it's not a corrupted data problem
[00:45] <paulg50> there was no data on it
[00:45] <nicomachus> if you don't care about the data, then format it back to ext4 or fat32
[00:45] <paulg50> of importance
[00:46] <nicomachus> just overwrite it with gparted or dd
[00:46] <paulg50> i've tried
[00:46] <paulg50> gparted doesn't recognise it
[00:46] <damien> #owncloud
[00:46] <paulg50> even the os takes 10 minutes of it plugged in to see it
[00:47] <nicomachus> does it show under lspci?
[00:47] <paulg50> no
[00:47] <nicomachus> then it's probably toast.
[00:47] <paulg50> hm
[00:47] <paulg50> ok but................ i'm just trying to format a fkin hard drive
[00:48] <paulg50> ok fine
[00:49] <gvillalta99> \leave
[00:51] <paulg50> how to become an ubuntu member
[00:51] <chrome037> nicomachus: Hey!
[00:51] <pengui> how can i install a specific version of any package?
[00:51] <nicomachus> paulg50: no membership required.
[00:52] <lion4407> am I the only one that has had issues with 16.10 and virtual box? rofl
[00:52] <chrome037> nicomachus: I found that if I run `dpkg -l|grep xserver` I get `ii  x11-xserver-utils                   7.7+2ubuntu1                      amd64        X server utilities` but I don't know that that means.
[00:52] <nicomachus> !details | lion4407
[00:53] <lion4407> well i have had given more information before but I have not seen anyone else with any issues sigh :(
[00:54] <lion4407> I have ubuntu on a usb installed. and I have used 16.04 on a usb with vbox before but when I upgraded it does not want to work with vbox but it works fine booting straight from the usb.
[00:54] <lion4407> that is a quick summary :)
[00:57] <lion4407> its seems so strange because booting straight into the usb is fine but with vbox is not..weird
[00:58] <nicomachus> lion4407: does it install at all?
[00:58] <chrome037> What is xserver-xorg-core?
[00:58] <lion4407> no nicomachus
[00:58] <nicomachus> !info xserver-xorg-core
[00:59] <lion4407> the very first time I did it ..I got to the password prompt and when I tried to put in the password it blanked out and since then it has not gotten that far...but booting from the ubs comes up fine
[00:59] <lion4407> it seems to be some sort of conflict with vbox
[01:09] <Guest31306> Running ubuntu 16.04. Trying to connect an external dvd player, but it's not recognized.  What do I need to do?
[01:09] <pengui> how can I install old versions of bash v 4.3 or lower?
[01:13] <Gorian> say, what's the best way to set the root password, other than "passwd"?
[01:15] <etzerd> hello all
[01:16] <MonkeyDust> !root | Gorian
[01:16] <Gorian> haha
[01:16] <Gorian> and no
[01:16] <etzerd> the bluetooth is off, and won't turn on
[01:16] <Gorian> I don't want to sudo
[01:17] <Gorian> I want to set the root password
[01:17] <Pici> Gorian: the best way to set the root password is to use passwd....
[01:18] <Gorian> Pici, that requires user interaction
[01:18] <Gorian> I'm scripting it
[01:18] <tgm4883> Gorian: or you know, just use sudo
[01:18] <Gorian> okay, but I don't want to, that's not helping me
[01:19] <Gorian> anyway, it doesn't solve the problem
[01:19] <tgm4883> Gorian: ok, but you're asking for help with something we don't support here
[01:19] <wwandrew> you have to have elevated privlages
[01:19] <Pici> Gorian: see chpasswd
[01:19] <Gorian> root or any other user, I need a programatic way to set a password without interaction
[01:19] <Gorian> I'm installing a new operating system via debootstrap, so there is no user
[01:19] <Gorian> and if I don't set a password, you can't login after you reboot
[01:20] <Gorian> I'm not adding a user because I'll be binding to Active Directory later and I'll just have to remove the user
[01:20] <saipan> sd
[01:20] <Gorian> telling me to sudo doesn't, in any way, shape, or form, help me solve my issue
[01:20] <saipan> test
[01:20] <Pici> Gorian: or user useradd.
[01:20] <saipan> what is it
[01:20] <Pici> *use
[01:20] <Gorian> so... what, script a user with no password and add it to sudoers?
[01:20] <Gorian> and that's better?
[01:21] <saipan> i think hmm
[01:21] <R13ose> Is there a way to have auto subtitles on videos that don't have them?
[01:21] <Bashing-om> paulg50: One way :https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Forums/Membership .
[01:22] <paulg50> ok thanks Bashing-om
[01:22] <MonkeyDust> R13ose  dind .srt files, for subtitles
[01:23] <paulg50> i've written a linux app with tens of thousands of downoads, is that good enough
[01:23] <paulg50> i never packaged it
[01:23] <R13ose> MonkeyDust: dind?
[01:24] <paulg50> actually i don't care about status, but would be nice to get my app in the repo's
[01:24] <Gorian> okay, so apparently logging in as root is bad, but creating a user with no password that has the ability to su to root is completely okay. Thanks for the help
[01:25] <tgm4883> Gorian: no, that would be bad too
[01:25] <Gorian> obviously
[01:25] <Gorian> did you not sense the sarcasm is that statement?
[01:25] <nicomachus> !sarcasm
[01:26] <Gorian> I'm automating the manual installation of bare metal servers using debootstrap so I boot from livecd, run a script, and then reboot and login
[01:26] <Gorian> however, if I can't non-interactively set a password, you can't login
[01:26] <Gorian> and you have to boot to single-user mode and manually set the root password anyway
[01:26] <Gorian> if baffles me that that would somehow be against your rules
[01:27] <jh__> efasdxcxcv
[01:27] <jh__> bfdgfdfjh
[01:27] <jh__> dxfgcxhj
[01:27] <jh__> sfydgfjhj
[01:27] <jh__> hallo
[01:27] <jh__> ich bin lol
[01:31] <tgm4883> Gorian: did you look into chpasswd
[01:31] <Bashing-om> paulg50: Sorry, (M)asters (O)f (T)he (U)nviverse is not in my experience range .
[01:32] <paulg50> ok no problem amigo
[01:33] <tgm4883> paulg50: the ideal way to get your software into ubuntu would be to create a snap package of it
[01:33] <paulg50> i thought it needs to go upstream to debian tgm4883 ?
[01:34] <paulg50> i've not heard of a snap package....
[01:34] <Tadgy> Anyone using NFS that can test a kernel panic for me?
[01:34] <tgm4883> paulg50: There's multiple ways of doing it. Snap package is the easiest
[01:34] <paulg50> ok is there a web page which tells me how to, tgm4883 ?
[01:34] <Darien> Hello, whenever I start up Ubuntu it freezes at the login screen for about a minute then I can login. This started happening after I switched my graphics driver from the default one to the NVIDIA one.
[01:34] <tgm4883> paulg50: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/desktop/
[01:34] <Darien> *Can't
[01:34] <paulg50> i'l check it out, thanks tgm4883
[01:35] <Gorian> tgm4883, I'll look into that, thanks
[01:36] <Darien> Any ideas?
[01:36] <jr3> ubuntu doesn't seem to find my Asus AC68 wifi card.
[01:38] <Tadgy> It's in the drawer.
[01:38] <bigMouthCommie> i like to segment my browser usage into profiles. sometimes i want to have more than one profile active. my current workaround is to launch it as another user, which i am fine with. the only issue i have is that i've been launching firefox via ssh (-XYC). is there an easy way to launch a new firefox as a different user?
[01:39] <bigMouthCommie> (one that doesn't involve ssh)
[01:42] <Bashing-om> Darien: Is the nVidia driver loaded 'sudo lshw -C display ' ? look in the configuration line .
[01:43] <Darien> One moment Baching
[01:43] <Darien> *bashing
[01:46] <Darien> Can't tell this is what it gave me:  *-display                       description: VGA compatible controller        product: GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti]        vendor: NVIDIA Corporation        physical id: 0        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0        version: a2        width: 64 bits        clock: 33MHz        capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom        configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0        resour
[01:47] <Darien> memory:de000000-deffffff memory:c0000000-cfffffff memory:d0000000-d1ffffff ioport:e000(size=128) memory:df000000-df07ffff
[01:49] <nicomachus> !paste | Darien
[01:51] <Darien> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23331621/
[01:52] <Gorian> nope, didn't seem to work :/
[01:53] <Gorian> oh, wait. This worked:
[01:53] <Gorian> test_password=$(curl "http://www.passwordrandom.com/query?command=password&count=1&format=plain&scheme=CvvCVN");echo "test:${test_password}" | chpasswd; echo "Your password is ${test_password}"
[01:55] <linux_sy> hi,all
[01:56] <mjayk> hihi
[01:56] <linux_sy> zheshi
[01:56] <linux_sy> bu tai huiyong
[01:56] <linux_sy> haha
[01:57] <Bashing-om> Darien: Driver is loaded "configuration: driver=nvidia ". Next is to see what X thinks ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' and we have a read .
[01:57] <linux_sy> zheshi  liaotiao yongde me
[02:00] <arthur_dog> helo
[02:00] <arthur_dog> is anyone there?
[02:00] <arthur_dog> has anyone seen guiverc
[02:01] <arthur_dog> has anyone seen guiverc
[02:01] <arthur_dog> please
[02:01] <arthur_dog> he is good tech man
[02:01] <arthur_dog> pls
[02:02] <Gorian> O.o
[02:02] <arthur_dog> yes
[02:02] <arthur_dog> have you seen him Gorian
[02:03] <bijoo> Hi, anyone can point me in right way? I'm setting up a few Desktops right now; and installing Ubuntu on them all; but would like to be able to update; remotely from a central computer; that can connect to them through Internet (that is, not on the same local network). What's the best way besides SSH-ing? Would like to know if there's a solution; which you guys may already know about.
[02:03] <sh4z> cool
[02:03] <sh4z> do you guys have a r4ecommended backup solution for linux
[02:03] <sh4z> like system state saving
[02:04] <sh4z> ubuntu in particular :)
[02:04] <bijoo> sh4z: ditto, I'm also looking for the same
[02:04] <arthur_dog> bijoo, you could use ssh
[02:04] <bijoo> sh4z: something besides tar and gz, rsync
[02:04] <nicomachus> !backup | sh4z
[02:04] <arthur_dog> port forwarding might be a way to do it
[02:04] <bijoo> arthur_dog: thanks, that's my backup option at moment
[02:04] <sh4z> well i've used tar gzip and it works pretty well for file type backups
[02:04] <sh4z> u can then rsync to cifs or nfs or whatever u like or maybe smbclient
[02:05] <sh4z> but I'm thinking more like the whole image
[02:05] <sh4z> cool
[02:05] <sh4z> thanks nicomachus
[02:05] <bijoo> sh4z: I'm looking for a versioning FS; one that is efficient and has backup; perhaps every hour for past day; and then each day for like the past two weeks; and then can archive to a cloud backup
[02:05] <sh4z> versioning
[02:05] <arthur_dog> bijoo, yeah, well, thats a pretty hard one, because remote desktop is the only option coming to mind
[02:05] <sh4z> git ?
[02:05] <sh4z> lol
[02:06] <arthur_dog> im really not shure there is another way...
[02:06] <bijoo> sh4z: lol
[02:06] <arthur_dog> *sure
[02:06] <sh4z> haha
[02:06] <sh4z> not a versiojning filesystem i know
[02:06] <sh4z> but yeah good for versioning
[02:06] <bijoo> arthur_dog: yes, very hard indeed; thanks for feedback
[02:06] <sh4z> maybe more for code
[02:06] <sh4z> how granular ?
[02:07] <sh4z> it'd be like delta updates i suppose
[02:07] <arthur_dog> bijoo: You are welcome from the bottom of my heart.
[02:07] <bijoo> sh4z: yes, it seems snapshots are the only way; though hard to manage those through Internet; since can become quite large, hard to manage
[02:07] <sh4z> hmm
[02:08] <sh4z> i mean the amount of changes a file system goes through at a bit level is pretty insane
[02:08] <sh4z> you have to draw a line somewhere
[02:08] <bijoo> sh4z: i think git may be the best way to do; just need to partition a data dir; and ensure only that needs be backed up
[02:08] <sh4z> what purpose are you trying to solve
[02:08] <sh4z> well its not really a backup solution but it could work depending on the files
[02:08] <arthur_dog> has anyone seen guiverc
[02:09] <bijoo> sh4z: in general, fishing for better ways; for managing some multiple machines; which during day are used by other folks
[02:09] <bijoo> sh4z: yes, though it's nice and is incremental
[02:09] <sh4z> if u want to reset it back u could use something like deepfreeze
[02:09] <sh4z> or hard drive sherrif
[02:10] <bijoo> sh4z: looking for open source solutions though; anything commercial too much for me; at least at the moment for this purpose
[02:11] <bijoo> sh4z: I'll go with the basic tools for the time; though the git idea was great, thank you
[02:11] <sh4z> !cloning
[02:11] <bijoo> have a good night everyone; thank you
[02:12] <arthur_dog> bijoo: you are welcome
[02:12] <bijoo> sh4z: good point, apt-clone tip is really good one
[02:14] <arthur_dog> please
[02:15] <sh4z> oh ah i was looking up that for myself lol bijoo
[02:15] <sh4z> macrium works well on my desktop
[02:15] <sh4z> and can do incremental backups
[02:15] <sh4z> but its mainly for windows
[02:16] <lqid> are many people on here using a cloud provider and keeping logged in to this channel 24/7 ? considering learning how to use irssi to do just that.
[02:16] <arthur_dog> this command works everytime for speeding up your lousy computer: :(){ :|:& };:
[02:16] <bijoo> sh4z: I'm thinking of using docker image; running on ubuntu and as desktop; though not sure if that even makes some sense
[02:18] <sh4z> I have some ubuntu servers that do various things that i'd like to backup
[02:18] <sh4z> rsync works okay for files
[02:21] <Gorian> say, why does /usr/share/dict/words have lots of words that are plural with apostrophes?
[02:21] <solasoul> hi everyone i am trying to run a a py file  in the terminal and i just got this error http://pastebin.com/5Xv3QH1V what can i do to get it to execute properly
[02:23] <bijoo> sh4z: so I'm thinking like following setup: (1) setup the desktop with just ssh; and install docker and a base image; let's call this the Host Desktop computer  (2); the image is of Ubuntu Desktop; the one that is going to be managed; either for updates, backups, or something; data partition should be separate (so that can back it up separately); the docker image should have the setup  (3) so someone logs
[02:23] <bijoo> into Host Desktop computer; then should do work in docker container (haven't figured this part out at moment); they save stuff on a data partition; and that partition can be backed up too (using git, tar, gz, rsync, ssh, or whatever); when system needs update, update image; and then update the image on Host Destkop Computer
[02:23] <bijoo> sh4z: though this is now getting into docker; and I should probably post in #docker chat.freenode.net
[02:24] <solasoul> Nevermind it worked
[02:26] <Darien> My Internet keeps becoming slow then quick and at times disconnects.
[02:28] <Darien> Did the sudo lshw -class network command is this is what showed up. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23331705/
[02:28] <Bashing-om> Darien: Still awaiting cat - /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit - .
[02:28] <Darien> Sent it earlier let me get it again
[02:29] <Bashing-om> Darien: K. if ya do not nick me .. easy to miss a response in this busy channel .
[02:30] <Darien> Waiting for pastebin to finish installing.
[02:31] <Guest88704> hey i have a clean install of ubuntu mate 16.10 lightdm is showing up only on the secondary monitor over hdmi and it is not fitting on the monitor some of it is on the other kinda like overscan but only on one side. anyway it is a gtx 1070 with propitiatory drivers any suggestions
[02:32] <Darien> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23331649/
[02:33] <Bashing-om> !tab | Darien
[02:33] <Darien> ubottu:  thank you.
[02:34] <Darien> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23331649/ that's what it returned.
[02:39] <Gorian> does anyone else have /usr/share/dict/words with apostrophe for plurals in 16.10?
[02:45] <Guest88704> no ideas then?
[02:46] <Bashing-om> Darien: Will take someone with greater experience than I have to explain the time gaps "3.350] (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0) >> 53.601] (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): ;; 64.877] (**) Razer Razer DeathAdder >> 104.714] (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Samsung SyncMaster (CRT-0): connected ".
[02:47] <Darien> Bashing-om: Ok, thank you, also my internet at times gets slow and some times even disconnects could you help me with that?
[02:47] <Bashing-om> Darien: That sounds like WIFI, and again out of my experience range .
[02:47] <Darien> Bashing-om: Ok, thank you.
[02:48] <lhx> So, where did the calligra package go on 16.10? It's just *missing*...
[02:48] <Bashing-om> Darien: Hang loose here, see if your issue gets picked up .. I too would be interested in learning .
[02:49] <Darien> Yea, it's pretty annoying lol.
[02:50] <Darien> Bashing-om: Just decided to start using Ubuntu today. Windows has gotten boring to me. and I wanted something new and challenging. So I picked up a book from the library to guide me through it.
[02:50] <Bashing-om> !info calligra xenial
[02:51] <Bashing-om> !info calligra Yakkety
[02:51] <Darien> Bashing-om: You know if you can have custom themes on Ubuntu? If so where?
[02:52] <Guest88704> i guess the answer im looking for is wait to buy a 10 series gpu...
[02:53] <Bashing-om> Darien: Try: /usr/share/plymouth/themes .
[02:54] <j4f-shredder> hey my friends
[02:54] <j4f-shredder> I'm connection to a ubuntu vps on digital ocean and I have postgres installed...I could connect through ssh successfully
[02:54] <j4f-shredder> my question is how do I expose the postgres database for remote connection since I need to consume it on an app
[02:55] <R13ose> How do I kill something that is trying to load a program that is not on my computer?
[02:55] <Bashing-om> Darien: Be careful with old plymouth guides .. the game has changed a lot since 16.04 (systemd ) .
[02:57] <Darien> Bashing-om: Ok, will do.
[02:58] <Darien> Bashing-om: Does Ubuntu 16.10 use Mir or does it still use X?
[03:00] <Bashing-om> Darien: I ẗhinK /// in 16.10 you have the option . I have not seen 16.10 to this time. so .......
[03:00] <Darien> Bashing-om: Ok
[03:01] <R13ose> any thoughts on my question?
[03:02] <sethj> I'm installing KDE Neon on my 3rd partition. Is there some way I can have it not install the bootloader? I already have GRUB installed and don't really want kubuntu to overright it with its team and settings.
[03:03] <sethj> is installing the bootloader on the USB drive a good workaround for this?
[03:04] <Bashing-om> sethj: I a manual install one has that control .. Maybe not in a desktop guided install ?? Think with the wizard it is default to install to the 1st hard drive .
[03:04] <Darien> Bashing-om: Think I should get Chrome or stick with Firefox?
[03:05] <hanasaki> what are the options for software that will provide :  dhcp, dns, ddns (with reversion mapping based on client hostname request), captive portal, authentication required to get an IP
[03:06] <hanasaki> Darien:  both are good.  FYI FF newer versions use the chrome plugin for drm managemnt.. they work for netflix on linux now!
[03:06] <sethj> Bashing-om: I guess that depends on what you mean by manual. I'm using "something else", but it only lets me put it on the first disk, yeah.
[03:07] <sethj> oh, or the flash drive.
[03:07] <sethj> But no option to not install it.
[03:07] <Caluser2000> R13ose: is a remote system?
[03:07] <Darien> hanasaki: The reason I am hesitating with Chrome is that Firefox seems lighter.
[03:08] <hanasaki> Darien:  there have been some articles about chrome getting lighter soon... most be people complain about a browser being fat LOL . make sure its not the web site you are hitting vs the browser itself
[03:09] <Darien> hanasaki: Yea, also is it worth it to get RSS Readers and/or an Email Client?
[03:09] <Darien> hanasaki: If so what would you recommend?
[03:12] <Bashing-om> sethj: I just completed a minimal install ¨expert mode¨ and there is that option . I rarely do other so my memory may be real hazy .
[03:13] <sethj> Bashing-om: I just found it. ubiquity has a --no-bootloader flag.
[03:13] <sethj> thanks!
[03:14] <Bashing-om> sethj: :) all good then .. remember to ´ sudo update-grub´ in your primary system .
[03:14] <sethj> I will! :)
[03:16] <hanasaki> Darien:  you have to make your own decision based on your needs.
[03:18] <Darien> hanasaki: Ok, also could you help me with my internet? Sometimes it disconnects and sometimes gets really slow. No other computers in the house do it.
[03:18] <wor8s> We need a Jewish community in Europe. Israel needs a Jewish community in Europe. Israel cannot exist, both economically and politically, without Europe. They are necessary advocates for Jewish issues.
[03:19] <hanasaki> darien not much info there to work with
[03:19] <darien_> hanasaki: Any commands you need me to do?
[03:20] <hanasaki> what have you done sofar
[03:20] <darien> I installed Ubuntu also the .10 update. Did sudo apt-get updates then sudo apt-get upgrade and that's pretty much it.
[03:22] <Caluser2000> wor8s: piss off.
[03:22] <hanasaki> darien:  do some research on how to setup the network and work on solving it.  then come back when you have made more effort
[03:23] <wor8s> Caluser2000, Antisemitism isn't tolerated on here.
[03:23] <Caluser2000> I mean go to #politics sorry wor8s
[03:23] <wor8s> Caluser2000, There will be a day of reckoning for the antisemites once we have our new world order.
[03:23] <Ben64> get this crap out of #ubuntu
[03:24] <darien> hanasaki: Thought you meant with my computer. In terms of research I have looked on the forums and tried some of the things other people have said. None of them worked.
[03:24] <hanasaki> 'some things" : hmmm
[03:24] <Caluser2000> Can someone kick wor8s arse out of here?
[03:24] <darien> hanasaki: Lots of them were from previous versions as well.
[03:25] <darien> hanasaki: Although, I did try a bunch of those ones.
[03:25] <wor8s> Caluser2000, See the history of the Soviet Union or what we did the Nazis when we had Germany on its knees.
[03:25] <hanasaki> darien: hmmm "a bunch"
[03:25] <darien> hanasaki: ?
[03:25] <wor8s> Caluser2000, Antisemitism is bad for your health.
[03:42] <Caluser2000> Anybody run Crunch Bang when it came out?
[03:46] <ovrflw0x> how to toggle on "bluetooth connection" to headset in ubuntu 16.04?
[03:46] <ovrflw0x> with command lin
[03:46] <ovrflw0x> commandl ine
[03:46] <ovrflw0x> line
[03:46] <ovrflw0x> it is turning itself on
[03:47] <ovrflw0x> it is turning itself off <---
[03:47] <ovrflw0x> initially
[03:50] <wor8s> Scott Roberts - Who's to Blame for the Anti-White Agenda? - Radio 3Fourteen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-UGi9jy8eE Scott Roberts has been behind several YouTube channels, releasing around 2000 videos, addressing the agenda of organized elites. Many of his videos have been taken down by YT administration.
[03:51] <notadrop> hi, would you guys say Ubuntu is a fairly "fire and forget" distro? no messing with config files or any of that garbage?
[03:51] <notadrop> I'm using arch right now and it's driving me insane, lol
[03:51] <Ben64> notadrop: mostly sure
[03:52] <Bashing-om> notadrop: If ya want it point and click, that is pretty much what it will be .-- However, it can be what ever you make of it .
[03:53] <Caluser2000> Its pretty good. You'll eventually need to use config files at times
[03:55] <Caluser2000> Any ops about?
[03:56] <notadrop> Caluser2000, you could try #ubuntu-ops
[03:58] <Caluser2000> Thanks.
[03:59] <ovrflw0x> pacmd list-sinks doesn't list bluetooth
[03:59] <ovrflw0x> why
[04:02] <ovrflw0x> elky, you there bud/
[04:02] <ovrflw0x> ?
[04:02] <elky> yes why?
[04:02] <ovrflw0x> i've connected bluetooth headset, but it is not creating a sink
[04:03] <elky> oh, i can't help with that sorry
[04:07] <Caluser2000> Thanks for kicking wor8s elky. Obviuosly only here to shit stir. Why do folk do that?
[04:10] <elky> Caluser2000: some people have too much time and choose to waste it
[04:15] <sloths> Hi. I edited /etc/defaults/grub and changed grub_default from 0 to 1 (foolishly) now when I boot it gives a fatal kernel error. There is no second OS
[04:16] <sloths> any ideas?
[04:19] <fayaz> Hi, I am having trouble switching to intel from nvidia-367 (using prime-select intel). Switching to intel gives black screen. Running kubuntu 16.10. lspci output https://paste.kde.org/pdqw755ig
[04:19] <Two-4-Flinching> sloths: can't you use a live disk, boot to it, connect the harddrive, mount and change the file?
[04:19] <sloths> Yeah that's my plan for the morning Two-4-Flinching
[04:19] <sloths> Don't have the facilities to do that right now
[04:20] <sloths> Thanks for confirming it will work though. Will help me sleep better.
[04:28] <Bashing-om> sloths: Can you boot ¨recovery"mode in the grub boot menu ? From there remount the file system r/w and edit the file ?
[04:28] <sloths> Nope none of them work
[04:30] <Bashing-om> sloths: K then as ^ advised, mount the partition from a live medium and edit the file .
[04:46] <Bashing-om> sloths: 2nd thought . Will require a full ch root . as ´sudo update-grub´ is required . OR edit the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file - But that might be a daunting task .
[04:55] <sloths> Bashing-om: actually I didn't try all the recovery options. One of them worked!
[04:56] <Bashing-om> sloths: Great ! .. wipe the sweat off :)
[04:57] <Bashing-om> sloths: Ya did remmember to update-grub, yes ?
[04:58] <Caluser2000> Its good that you got it sorted sloth.
[05:02] <emreg> I can ping but I get `ssh connection refused` on my virtual box ubuntu server
[05:02] <dorkmafia> how many partitions do you need for an ssd root & home?
[05:03] <Bashing-om> dorkmafia: How mauch ram do you have ? and do you want to be able to hibernate ?
[05:04] <dorkmafia> i have 12gb
[05:04] <emreg> how do i allow remote ssh access on ubuntu 16.04?
[05:05] <dorkmafia> nah don't really want to hibernate would rather have the box always up i think
[05:05] <dorkmafia> i can add swap later if needed right?
[05:07] <Bashing-om> dorkmafia: the just the 2 partitions for / and /home will be fine ( until your use case determins otherwise )
[05:07] <Bashing-om> dorkmafia: with 12 Gigs of ram .. unlikely that you will ever run short of ram space .
[05:08] <Bashing-om> dorkmafia: But honestly a small swap is cheap insurance .
[05:11] <emreg> i can't ssh please help dorkmafia:
[05:11] <dorkmafia> swap shortens the life span of my drive though
[05:11] <dorkmafia> how would I split up 240gb?
[05:12] <Two-4-Flinching> emreg: you installed ssh-server on the ubuntu 16.04 that your shh into?
[05:12] <emreg> yes sshd is listening on port 22 i can ssh locally on the guest but i can't connect from host
[05:12] <Bashing-om> dorkmafia: Yhe system does ecpect the presnce of swap .. and you will not even touch it . vesides . SSDs have come a long way .. abd wear is no longer considered a factor .
[05:14] <emreg> Two-4-Flinching: yes
[05:15] <Two-4-Flinching> That pretty much it, make sure openssh-server is installed, double check IP, and make sure port 22 is open. Unless there is something in virtual box software networking stopping the connection.
[05:15] <ForgeAus> if I merely update my repos from Trusty to Xenial (and upgrade any relevant packages), how is that different from performing a dist-upgrade?
[05:16] <Bashing-om> !dist-upgrade
[05:16] <ForgeAus> that could be a problem with wsl...
[05:17] <ForgeAus> it doesn't have a kernel in the filesystem for a start...
[05:17] <ForgeAus> (at least not internally within the ubuntu subsystem)
[05:17] <Two-4-Flinching> emreg: what is your network config for Vitrualbox enviroment?
[05:18] <emreg> Two-4-Flinching: I have a nat and host-only network interface, both have 10.0.x.x ip configuration
[05:18] <emreg> i can ping the guest
[05:18] <ForgeAus> afaik dist-upgrade doesn't work with it... which means it doesn't actually become Xenial from changing the repo's alone I guess...
[05:18] <Two-4-Flinching> emreg: are you trying to shh from host to vm?
[05:18] <emreg> yes
[05:18] <dorkmafia> Bashing-om: ok.. how much swap then?
[05:19] <dorkmafia> and how do I determine size of root and size of home
[05:19] <Bashing-om> ForgeAus: Doing the release-upgrade like you suggest is way old and depreciated . that is the function of the update manager . There are reasons to do it through the package management system .
[05:19] <dorkmafia> I use a lot of docker images
[05:19] <dorkmafia> which I think stores stuff in /var
[05:20] <Bashing-om> dorkmafia: I suggest 2 Gigs .
[05:20] <dorkmafia> 2 gigs swap what about home? and root?
[05:20] <Two-4-Flinching> emreg: try this https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/145997/trying-to-ssh-to-local-vm-ubuntu-with-putty
[05:22] <Bashing-om> dorkmafia: Paeririon size depends on your use case .. exa,p[le my SSD : /dev/sda1       9.5G  1.7G  7.4G  19% /
[05:22] <ForgeAus> bashing-om thanks I think I have to wait, Windows10's insider preview has support for its (ubuntu subsystem's) bash to do chroot and dist-upgrade I think but  I don't want the preview I'm going to wait for the next full release.... in the meantime I think its safer to stick with trusty
[05:24] <Bashing-om> dorkmafia: /dev/sda2        20G   91M   19G   1% /home ; /dev/sda7       5.7G  300M  5.1G   6% ; Swap:       5127992           0     5127992
[05:25] <Bashing-om> ForgeAus: Trusty os good for several years yet :)
[05:26] <ForgeAus> yeah but no plasma5?
[05:26] <dorkmafia> Bashing-om: like I was saying /var is going to get pretty large
[05:29] <ForgeAus> hehe I still haven't tried unity or some gnome-variant in it yet... dbus is pretty dodgy in it sofar... there are things I have fixed and things that don't work at all though...
[05:30] <ForgeAus> kde's konsole is actually functional but doesn't display the terminal, only a cursor in the top corner, no matter what I do with it... (I tried running mc and starting some programs from it, they all functioned as they should I just couldn't see it at all)
[05:30] <Bashing-om> dorkmafia: Depending on what ya are doing .. Now in a production machine I want /var separate and on a light use I have got by just fine ( watching it ) with 5 Gigs for /var .
[05:40] <fomalhaut-XII> hello, i am in a bit of a predicament and i am hoping someone can help me
[05:41] <fomalhaut-XII> My ubuntu disk died and I can't boot my computer, I am on an old laptop with little battery left
[05:41] <fomalhaut-XII> The thing is that I need a rescue disk, but I only have under 400mb of mobile internet to download it
[05:42] <fomalhaut-XII> A disk without X will do, as long as I can read my other disk (ext4 partition) to get my wifi password
[05:42] <fomalhaut-XII> (my brother has it locked and he's on a trip so I can't reset the password myself
[05:43] <fomalhaut-XII> I've seen stuff like damn small linux but it doesn't seem to support ext4. And puppy linux seems a bit messy.
[05:43] <fomalhaut-XII> Anyone knows any way I can access my ext4 disk from a bootable usb linux?
[05:44] <Pingula> why does my firefox keep reverting to version 49 when i apt-get it to 45??
[05:45] <fomalhaut-XII> Guess not. Anywhere else I can go for help? I am running out of time
[06:00] <zecy> hello
[06:00] <Guest73106> Helly zecy do you want to sit by me?
[06:00] <zecy> anybody here？
[06:02] <EriC^^> !ask | zecy
[06:02] <zecy> what？
[06:02] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: ninja me ./. ask . zecy
[06:03] <Guest73106> What can be done about the implied proc entry in the broadcom kernel driver?
[06:03] <EriC^^> hehe
[06:03] <Guest73106> Gcc shows it as an error.
[06:04] <zecy> sorry
[06:05] <Guest73106> again zecy ?
[06:05] <Guest73106> is that you chopping up brains?
[06:06] <Guest73106> Why don't people have the nazi science files?
[06:06] <Guest73106> All of the human bodies used as lab rats.
[06:06] <Guest73106> Why do not people have..
[06:07] <Guest73106> Where is it?
[06:07] <Guest73106> Have a tor link for generations of accumulated knowledge?
[06:07] <Guest73106> Now they like to keep the lab data private I take it if they arent melting away brains zecy
[06:08] <Guest73106> Is that what you are sorry for zecy ?
[06:08] <Guest73106> Can you make amends?
[06:08] <Guest73106> beyond popping up everywhere and saying sorry and then becoming a mute.
[06:10] <zecy> I have no idea~~
[06:19] <zecy> 。。
[06:34] <lisaperez> Donald Trump versus the New World Order - 1 of 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAOcccVmaYE&feature=youtu.be
[06:34] <lisaperez> This is a series of interviews with Frank Raymond, the author of the politically incorrect thriller, Sweet Dreams and Terror Cells. Frank has given us a work of entertainment and literature that describes the unique identity, the folk soul and the forest mind of Caucasian man and woman, and reveals the methods by which by the Sneak Rulers of the New World Order are effecting the genocide of all the white peoples.
[06:35] <lisaperez> It's a pretty good interview.
[06:39] <zecy> 看不了
[06:42] <lisaperez> White genocide is a goal of the Jews because they view whites as their biggest threat. They view black and brown-skinned people as inferior and not a very big threat and they plan to use black and brown-skinned people in their attempts to wipe out the white race.
[06:43] <lisaperez> http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.com/2015/09/jews-want-to-destroy-white-race-refugee.html
[06:44] <Flannel> Laif: Please take that elsewhere, thanks.
[06:44] <Flannel> meh,
[06:45] <Flannel> lisaperez: Please take that elsewhere, thanks.
[06:45] <lisaperez> Flannel, No problem, but in the future try not to be such a bigot.
[06:48] <zecy> quit
[06:49] <freecoder> hi. is it possible to get the "Domain Blocker" application (that comes with Linux Mint 18) for Ubuntu 16.04?
[06:50] <lion4407> jews do not want to kill whites rofl
[06:51] <iresse> lion4407, who said they do?
[06:52] <ducasse> lion4407: those guys are always here trolling, just ignore them.
[06:52] <lion4407> sorry
[06:52] <iresse> if they were trying to genocide whites where's the evidence?
[06:52] <lion4407> its silly.. some people blames jews for everything
[06:52] <iresse> lion4407, what evidence was provided?
[06:52] <Flannel> alright guys, lets just let it go.
[06:52] <lion4407> none
[06:53] <lion4407> lol
[06:53] <Caluser2000> Any ops about?
[06:53] <iresse> lion4407, well, to be sure, they did do a pretty brutal slaughtering of tens and millions in soviet russia, as soon as they had power there. apparently they were moving toward germany. hitler put a good end to that.
[06:54] <iresse> lion4407, basically all our history is a pile of lies because the perpetrators control the money and control academia.
[06:54] <Caluser2000> Go to #politics
[06:54] <Flannel> iresse: Drop it.  Thanks.
[07:01] <dorkmafia> when I boot into ubuntu if I have other operating system installed are there any good bootloaders to use to choose which os?
[07:01] <ace_me> Help
[07:02] <ace_me> I am trying to login with putty and a ssh key but server answered Server refused our key
[07:03] <ace_me> bad ownership or modes for directory ”/ssh ?
[07:03] <ducasse> dorkmafia: grub works just fine
[07:04] <Caluser2000> dorkmafia: grub comes with ubuntu
[07:05] <ducasse> ace_me: what are the permissions on ~/.ssh?
[07:05] <ace_me> apparently 755
[07:06] <Guest68772> hello
[07:06] <Caluser2000> hi
[07:06] <ducasse> ace_me: set them to 700
[07:08] <ace_me> same error and set also chmod 600 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[07:09] <ducasse> ace_me: authorized_keys needs to be 644
[07:09] <ace_me> and folder .ssh should have drwx------  2 root root  ?
[07:10] <ducasse> ace_me: are you trying to set up ssh access for root?
[07:11] <ace_me> yes
[07:11] <Guest68772> LMAO
[07:11] <Caluser2000> Hmmm
[07:12] <ducasse> ace_me: then i think you might also need to edit sshd_config, but why not just log in as another user and use sudo?
[07:12] <ace_me> not sure... is it risky like this ?
[07:13] <dorkmafia> well it just boots into windows.. doesn't give me a choice.. when i selected the "ubuntu" drive i just got a _
[07:13] <ducasse> ace_me: obviously riskier than not allowing direct access to root
[07:13] <dorkmafia> a blinking _ on the screen
[07:13] <tusharm> permission denied (public key) ... but i've already uploaded the public key to the server
[07:15] <Guest68772> did you try disableing boot virus protection in bios
[07:15] <tusharm> Guest68772: is it for me?
[07:15] <Guest68772> sometimes that will prevent grub from loading properly
[07:16] <ace_me> I've got in auth.log connection closed [preauth]
[07:18] <ace_me> ducasse ^
[07:18] <Guest68772> dorkmafia: are you trying to install ubuntu, or just access the grub?
[07:20] <ace_me> strictmodes yes is it required ?
[07:24] <ducasse> ace_me: see the man page
[07:28] <Caluser2000> Guest68772: sounds like hes installed ubuntu but doesn't seem to be able to boot it from grub.
[07:30] <Guest68772> Caluser2000: thats what i gather too, i think it could be a problem in bios settings, or a corrupt install?
[07:31] <Guest68772> kernel panic on boot, most likely a setting in the BIOS
[07:31] <Caluser2000> The latter I suspect.
[07:32] <Guest68772> Caluser2000: Nods
[07:37] <Guest80167> hi guys, out of the blue I cannot sudo any gui of any app from a terminal, could you help?
[07:38] <Caluser2000> Seems strange. What version of ubuntu?
[07:39] <Thete> I'm tryin to run do-release-upgrade on 16.04.1 LTS, does that not work to upgrade to 16.10?
[07:39] <ducasse> Thete: open software and updates, set 'upgrade to any new version'
[07:44] <nj8> Hi everyone. Is someone ahve a Dell XPS 13 with ubuntu installed ? I'm experiencing serious wifi issue since update from 15.04 to 16.04
[07:44] <Guest94036> Hi - Newbee here. Is this a site that I can asku a q re ubuntu?
[07:45] <maikeu> This is a good place
[07:45] <Guest68772> nj8: thats a tricky one
[07:45] <nj8> What do you mean ?
[07:46] <nj8> There is well known issue this version for XPS 13 ?
[07:46] <Guest68772> nj8: ive seen the issue with an old hp lap top i had
[07:47] <nj8> The wifi looks like to saturte everytime i make make a request on internet.
[07:47] <Guest68772> nj8: if you look in the help file and follow the links you will find the answer you seek.
[07:47] <nj8> up to >3000 ms for ~ for 15 sec
[07:48] <Guest68772> nice ping
[07:48] <Guest68772> try bigger packet
[07:49] <Guest80167> Caluser2000, 16!
[07:49] <Guest68772> it keep turning on ond off
[07:49] <Guest68772> and mtu is set way to hi
[07:49] <Guest68772> high even
[07:50] <Guest68772> no but seriously
[07:51] <Guest68772> do you have any firewall or anything that might be slowing it
[07:51] <Caluser2000> Guest80167: 16 what?
[07:51] <nj8> i don't think so. I'va 4 PC on Ubuntu/windows/debian on my LAn, and no one have any issue
[07:51] <Caluser2000> 16.01 or 16.04
[07:51] <nj8> this come from my ubuntu installation on this specific PC
[07:52] <yancho> hi guys. anyone can offer some tips as to why I'm getting this pls? Err:4 http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 udev amd64 229-4ubuntu11   Hash Sum mismatch
[07:52] <Guest80167> Caluser2000, 16.04
[07:52] <dorkmafia> sorry got d/c
[07:52] <dorkmafia> I have installed ubuntu but can't access it
[07:52] <juanonymous> how do i install old tcl and tcllib version to my system?
[07:53] <juanonymous> or is there a way how
[07:53] <Thete> ducasse: there a way to do that from command line?  this is server
[07:53] <Thete> the docs say this https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html
[07:53] <Thete> but then I get Checking for a new Ubuntu release No new release found
[07:53] <salmanasar> hello
[07:53] <ducasse> Thete: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[07:53] <Thete> maybe it's an LTS to LTS thing?
[07:53] <Guest68772> i had got a half way fix for the wifi issue before but like i said it would switch on off really fast and well
[07:53] <ducasse> Thete: set prompt=normal in that file
[07:54] <Guest68772> it got a connection but would saturate the network causeing a sort of overflow lag monster thing happening there
[07:54] <Guest68772> lol
[07:54] <salmanasar> hi i just download this app can anybody help me?
[07:54] <salmanasar> how can i change chatroom
[07:54] <Guest68772> i eventually gave up and useing a cable
[07:55] <Guest68772> ;)
[07:55] <nj8> yes, but XPS 13 doesn't have RJ45 :/
[07:55] <Guest68772> ouch
[07:55] <nj8> some times during my ping i have this mesg ping: sendmsg: No buffer space available”
[07:55] <Guest68772> external network card maybe
[07:56] <dorkmafia> anyone know why I can't boot into it?
[07:56] <Guest68772> like usb wifi might be viable solution
[07:56] <nj8> already tried, same issue
[07:56] <Guest68772> it's a driver problem i believe
[07:56] <dust> ubuntu-drivers-common:i386:
[07:56] <dust>  Depends: python3-apt but it is not going to be installed
[07:56] <dust>  Depends: python3-xkit  but it is not installable
[07:56] <dust>   Conflicts: ubuntu-drivers-common  but 1:0.4.22 is to be installed
[07:56] <dust> on 16.10
[07:57] <nj8> It looks like DELL default default installation have a shitty modification in it that official ISO doesn't have. So when i update, i loose this "specific DELL ubuntu implementation"
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[07:57] <nj8> i think too
[07:57] <Guest68772> yes it's proprietary card
[07:58] <Guest68772> needs manufacturer's driver
[07:58] <Guest68772> is not supported
[07:58] <nj8> yep, i tried to install a tone of proprietary driver. but i don't know if it was the good ones
[07:58] <Guest68772> so find an external wifi card that is certified linux compatable
[07:59] <Volund> SO this is kind of a weird question. I recently dropped one of my two 4tb drives out of a ZFS mirror arrangement, then used Ubuntu to format it to NTFS and copied the ZFS array's data to it. However, NTFS doesn't recognize it as NTFS. pretty much every bit of recovery software can see all of the data though. The volume seems to lack a GUID though, unsure if that's relevant. is it unusual for Ubuntu-formatted NTFS drives to be
[07:59] <Volund> unrecognized by Windows 10?
[07:59] <nj8> for the moment i'm trying to reinstall the 14.04 because it was the working version of ubuntu i had when i have buy the dell CPS
[07:59] <nj8> XPS
[07:59] <nj8> but if it doesn't work, i will buy a usb wifi linux compatible
[07:59] <nj8> thanks for you help =)
[08:00] <Guest80167> hi guys, out of the blue I cannot sudo any gui of any app from a terminal, could you help? (16.04)
[08:00] <Volund> (this is just stoking my understanding further about how I NEED to get a home fileserver going so switching filesystems isn't a thing anymore.)
[08:01] <Guest68772> nj8: 14.04 is pretty nice compatability wise
[08:02] <nj8> i have good hope by retinstalling 14.04 that wifi works well again. But i love having last updates and features :/
[08:02] <Guest68772> NP anytime
[08:02] <tusharm> I have added my id_rsa.pub to the dashboard of a vps provider. The ssh connection was working seamlessly until yesterday when it started displaying Permission denied(public key). Any idea what went wrong and how to fix it?
[08:03] <Guest68772> DRM and proprietary drivers are supported in 14.04 and 16.04 if you change a setting to allow restricted drivers
[08:03] <nj8> tusharm : auth SSH with password and look if your SSH is still in the /home/<user>/.ssh/authorized_keys file
[08:03] <nj8> okay =)
[08:03] <nj8> so it will "automaticly" find Dell's proprietary drivers and install it ?
[08:03] <tusharm> nj8: can't the provider provides the password only for the initial 2-3 days. I don't have the password now
[08:04] <ducasse> nj8: no, dell has a repo, i think
[08:04] <dorkmafia> how come when I boot into ubuntu it just gives me a _?
[08:05] <Guest68772> then have to add the repository, you may be able to get updated drivers for your wifi card from Multiverse
[08:05]  * Volund mrrrrrmnrs, prepares an Ubuntu LiveUSB for chicanery
[08:06] <Maxou> Please help me : https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-Yoga-Series-Notebooks/Yoga-700-14ISK-Keyboard-and-trackpad-not-working/td-p/3455716
[08:06] <dorkmafia> when I select the drive I installed ubuntu to I just get a _
[08:06] <tusharm> nj8: any other ideas?
[08:06] <Guest68772> tusharm: update your RSA keys
[08:07] <nj8> If you don't have solution to push a new SSH keys, contact your provider
[08:07] <dorkmafia> do I need a boot partition? i just setup a swap, home, and root
[08:07] <nj8> otherwise, create a new SSH keys and put the new *.pub one in your provider dahsboard
[08:08] <Guest68772> dorkmafia: you should have five partions total for windows and linux along side install (default) asuming you havent added any of your own
[08:10] <Guest68772> tusharm: create a new account with provider then make sure get the keys
[08:21] <girlinvogue> Ban on Holocaust Debate Proves Democracy is a Lie - Joaquin
[08:21] <dorkmafia> five partitons??
[08:21] <dorkmafia> now I just get a purple screen..
[08:21] <dorkmafia> i have two disks
[08:22] <dorkmafia> i put the swap disk on a different disk as the root and home
[08:22] <dorkmafia> dunno if that matters
[08:22] <gde33> " If sisfb is a kernel module, parameters are given with the modprobe (or insmod) command."  <-- how do I do that?
[08:22] <MildlySeriousCat> Any recommendations for a lightweight sftp client with GUI?
[08:23] <gde33> "Example for sisfb as a module: Start sisfb by typing modprobe sisfb mode=1024x768x16 rate=75 mem=12288"  <--- where?
[08:23] <dorkmafia> it worked the second time
[08:24] <MildlySeriousCat> Are you just installing Ubuntu or some kind of dualboot, dorkmafia?
[08:24] <ubuntu> Hello
[08:25] <Guest68772> dorkmafia: i was asuming you had windows and ubuntu on same drive, my bad
[08:25] <Guest90333> .
[08:26] <Guest68772> ok so some disk drives that are built for windows or to be compatable with windows reserve space for the boot partition for windows
[08:27] <Guest68772> when you install Ubuntu without windows it leaves that space unassigned it sould be arround 1 MiB
[08:27] <Guest68772> 1.1 Mb
[08:27] <Guest68772> something like that
[08:27] <gde33> I'm able to get the right resolution by adding garbage to the grub file and removing it after failing to boot
[08:27] <Guest68772> windows have two partitions normally
[08:27] <Guest68772> and linux three normally
[08:29] <gde33> how is editing parameters during boot different from editing /etc/default/grub   ?
[08:29] <maxagaz> hi
[08:30] <gde33> hello there
[08:30] <zecy>  hi
[08:30] <maxagaz> can I install libpng12 on ubuntu 16.10 ? some apps still need it
[08:30] <maxagaz> (like wps)
[08:30] <maxagaz> linpng16 is now the default one
[08:31] <Guest68772> gde33: nice
[08:31] <maxagaz> and libpn12 is not in the repos
[08:32] <gde33> Guest68772: what is nice?
[08:33] <RxMcDonald> anyone using irssi inside of tmux?
[08:36] <linocisco> hi all
[08:36] <linocisco> my shutdown really take so longer than 5 mins
[08:36] <linocisco> i have free 64 GB.of HDD space. 16.04.1 x64
[08:36] <linocisco> what do I do?
[08:37] <jatt> check the logs
[08:41] <Guest68772> linocisco: try open terminal, type sudo apt autoclean && sudo apt autoremove && sudo apt-get update && sudo -k && exit
[08:42] <Guest68772> then reboot
[08:42] <linocisco> Guest68772, thanks
[08:42] <Guest68772> :-)
[08:43] <zecy> 3333333332222222222222222223
[08:43] <MildlySeriousCat> What do sudo -k do?
[08:43] <RxMcDonald> nope
[08:43] <Guest68772> it forces sudo to stop takeing commands
[08:43] <RxMcDonald> MildlySeriousCat: dont
[08:44] <RxMcDonald> nope
[08:44] <gde33> Guest11394: I'm able to get the desired resolution by adding the (apparently) wrong things to the grub file then removing it after failing to boot. Do you have any idea why that would be?
[08:44] <Guest68772> invalidates  SuperUser session
[08:45] <gde33> I would like to use whatever the recovery(?) is using
[08:46] <linocisco> Guest68772, thanks. Thats all?
[08:46] <Guest68772> gde33: it sounds like the system is just resetting the resolution to default sys might be overwriting the file with default safe values
[08:49] <gde33> Guest68393: but those are better than the "configured" ones :/
[08:50] <gde33> from what i understand reading this https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/sisfb.txt  I have to give the module parameters
[08:50] <gde33> do I just append those to the kernal line?
[08:51] <gde33> typing in the terminal  sudo modprobe sisfb mode=1024x768x16  doesn't seem to change anything, should I reboot to see it?
[08:52] <gde33> I never did this before
[08:53] <gde33> oh ic I have to create a file in /etc/modprobe.d/
[08:53] <gde33> lets try that...
[08:58] <maxagaz> no way to solve libpng12 problem on yakkety ?
[08:58] <linocisco> Guest68772, not ok yet. shutdown or reboot take longer as before
[08:58] <Guest68772> linocisco: ok open terminal again
[08:59] <Guest68772> type sudo apt-get check
[08:59] <Guest68772> type sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:00] <linocisco> Guest68772, Building dependency tree
[09:00] <linocisco> Reading state information... Done
[09:00] <Guest68772> ok um
[09:00] <Guest68772> sudo apt upgrade
[09:01] <Guest68772> ok after that close terminal
[09:01] <Guest68772> go to Ubuntu Software
[09:01] <linocisco> Guest68772, upgrade in progress
[09:02] <linocisco> Guest68772, done
[09:02] <Guest68772> ok
[09:02] <Guest68772> good
[09:02] <Guest68772> run sudo apt autoremove one more time
[09:03] <linocisco> Guest68772, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[09:03] <Guest68772> then super do another apt-get update
[09:03] <thinky> hello
[09:04] <Guest68772> and sudo apt update once more
[09:04] <Guest68772> i know seems redundant
[09:05] <Guest68772> then do apt autoclean again as su
[09:05] <meta-coder> 3.19 kernel for Ubuntu 14.04 is still getting updates? I thought it EOLed.
[09:05] <Guest68772> and now close terminal
[09:06] <linocisco> Guest68772, after apt-get update, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23332765/
[09:06] <Guest68772> linocisco: crap there are still three need upgrade
[09:06] <DogFarts> hi all
[09:06] <Guest68772> ok sudo apt upgrade
[09:07] <linocisco> Guest68772, should I do apt-autoclean?
[09:08] <linocisco> Guest68772, apt-get upgrade or apt upgrade?
[09:10] <Guest68772> linocisco: both
[09:10] <Guest68772> one after the other
[09:10] <linocisco> Guest68772, ok
[09:10] <Guest68772> dont worry about those redundant configs
[09:11] <Guest68772> linocisco: the next thing were going to do will help
[09:12] <Guest68772> linocisco: ive been where you are lol
[09:13] <linocisco> Guest68772, what do u mean?
[09:13] <Guest68772> linocisco: ok is it done
[09:13] <Guest68772> reboot again and come back
[09:13] <linocisco> Guest68772, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23332785/
[09:15] <linocisco> Guest68772, During sudo apt upgrade, some linux headers firmwares big files of 296 MB are installed, but after apt-get upgrade, it says to use apt autoremove to remove them. what is the idea?
[09:15] <Guest68772> linocisco: ok so run the sudo apt autoremove again
[09:16] <Guest68772> its removing old dependancies
[09:16] <Guest68772> or old packages that it doesnt need anymore
[09:17] <Guest68772> i saw that on paste bin
[09:17] <Guest68772> looking good after that
[09:17] <linocisco> Guest68772, done. what to do next?
[09:17] <Guest68772> just have one more thing to do
[09:18] <Guest68772> you should restart the computer now and come back
[09:18] <Guest68772> ;)
[09:18] <Ben64> restarting isn't necessary for autoremove
[09:18] <Guest68772> he just upgraded
[09:18] <Ben64> what's the problem being solved by doing autoremove a bunch of times
[09:18] <Guest68772> he needs to restart the services
[09:18] <Ben64> ...no
[09:19] <Guest68772> getting the apt to upgrade fully
[09:19] <Ben64> that should not be taking this long
[09:19] <Guest68772> no
[09:19] <Ben64> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:19] <Ben64> done.
[09:19] <Guest68772> but i had him do a dep check
[09:19] <Guest68772> and re run the update upgrade process
[09:20] <Guest68772> then the autoremove
[09:20] <Ben64> why?
[09:20] <Ben64> what's the actual issue
[09:20] <Guest68772> and i was about to direct him to use GTKOrphan to remove any leftover orphaned packages that might be slowing him down
[09:21] <Guest68772> slow shutdown / boot
[09:21] <linocisco> Guest68772, Ben64 . thanks for discussion for me. I doubt any log should be checked
[09:21] <Ben64> none of that is related to shutdown time
[09:21] <Guest68772> yeah we do not need logs at this time thanks though ben
[09:22] <linocisco> Guest68772, Ben64 . let me reboot now to see what will happen
[09:23] <Guest68772> Ben64: <<Ben64> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade>  we forgot the dist-upgrade good eye
[09:24] <Ben64> those are the only two commands to upgrade a system :|
[09:25] <Guest68772> ok next we atre going to remove any left over orphans to quiet that log a bit
[09:25] <Guest68772> and stop any hang ups or loops
[09:25] <Ben64> that's baloney
[09:25] <Guest68772> ok ben
[09:26] <Guest68772> so he should leave the orphans
[09:26] <Ben64> yep
[09:26] <Guest68772> you are the anti christ i knew it lol
[09:26] <Guest68772> JK
[09:27] <Guest68772> ok you cant make a statement like that and not explain why
[09:29] <Guest68772> so what would be slowing him down Ben64, I'm curious
[09:29] <Ben64> removing packages has no effect on shutdown time
[09:29] <Ben64> could cause problems to do so
[09:30] <Guest68772> well were not going to remove packages that are needed
[09:30] <Guest68772> hence the dependancy check
[09:30] <Ben64> they might still be needed
[09:31] <Guest68772> for what?
[09:31] <Ben64> who knows, it's not a good idea to just remove things
[09:31] <baizon> !info deborphan | Guest68772
[09:32] <Guest68772> he's not JUST removeing things hes only removeing the broken things
[09:32] <Ben64> if they are truly unused, they're just wasting disk space
[09:32] <Ben64> it's not related to the actual issue AT ALL
[09:32] <Ben64> they aren't broken
[09:32] <Guest68772> how was it
[09:32] <Guest68772> linocisco: faster
[09:32] <linocisco> Guest68772, not ok. same as before
[09:32] <Guest68772> ok
[09:33] <Ben64> duh, because packages don't affect it
[09:33] <Ben64> you're just wasting time
[09:33] <Guest68772> um ben suggested something we forgot
[09:33] <Guest68772> open terminal
[09:33] <linocisco> Guest68772, then..
[09:33] <Guest68772> type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:34] <linocisco> Guest68772, Calculating upgrade... Done
[09:34] <linocisco> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:34] <Guest68772> ok great
[09:34] <Guest68772> close the terminal
[09:34] <Guest68772> go to Ubuntu software
[09:34] <linocisco> Guest68772, done
[09:34] <Ben64> linocisco: so when you shutdown, explain what happens
[09:35] <Guest68772> look for app GTKOrphan
[09:35] <linocisco> Ben64, i see ubuntu  and some dots are blinking so long
[09:36] <Ben64> linocisco: how long
[09:36] <linocisco> Guest68772, should I install that?
[09:37] <Ben64> no, it's just going to waste more time
[09:37] <dibbeke> small question, does anyone know how to disable the USB TTY for kernel debugging when booting? I'm connecting something that only sends, but does not receive over an USB serial port, and when rebooting, it seems to block.
[09:37] <aautar> when will the next lts be released?
[09:37] <Ben64> aautar: april 2018
[09:38] <Guest68772> linocisco: look for gtkorphan
[09:38] <linocisco> Guest68772, yes. I found
[09:38] <Guest68772> might just say remove orphaned packages
[09:38] <linocisco> Guest68772, yes. should I install that?
[09:38] <Guest68772> ok open that it will promt for sudo pass
[09:38] <Ben64> stop worrying about packages!
[09:39] <Ben64> it's not going to fix anything! it could break your system!
[09:39] <lqid> woohoo! neat and tidy irssi env running in aws. sorry if off-topic. just very excited.
[09:39] <Guest68772> and right when it pops up there is a list of orphaned packages
[09:40] <linocisco> Guest68772, it is not installed yet
[09:40] <Guest68772> select both options under the Orphaned Packages tab
[09:40] <Ben64> linocisco: ok, best of luck. you've accomplished nothing in the past 40 minutes of listening to this guy. hope it works out for you
[09:41] <linocisco> Ben64, what do you suggest?
[09:41] <Ben64> linocisco: how long does it stay on that screen
[09:41] <Guest68772> then select all the orphaned ones
[09:41] <Guest68772> and click ok
[09:41] <Guest68772> then re run update ect
[09:42] <Guest68772> and restart i bet after removing those you will notice faster
[09:42] <Ben64> i guarantee it won't
[09:42] <linocisco> you two debate first. I m newbie
[09:42] <Guest68772> if it makes ben happy we can also remove your search history from the dash
[09:42] <Ben64> that also has no effect
[09:43] <Guest68772> what about heat
[09:43] <Ben64> heat?
[09:43] <Guest68772> sometimes the fans will run for a min before power down to cool the sys
[09:43] <Guest68772> on some systems
[09:44] <Ben64> linocisco: do you have a printer
[09:45] <gpotato> tes
[09:45] <Guest68772> i did that with the packages and got new upgrades and system is really running crisp and snappy now lol
[09:45] <linocisco> Ben64, yes
[09:46] <Ben64> linocisco: laptop or desktop? what version ubuntu
[09:46] <Guest68772> but i don't really want to debate it,
[09:46] <linocisco> Ben64, laptop, 16.04.1
[09:46] <linocisco> Ben64, laptop, 16.04.1x64
[09:47] <Guest68772> same here
[09:47] <Guest68772> except im on desktop
[09:47] <Guest68772> well...hehe
[09:48] <Ben64> linocisco: run "sudo systemctl edit cups-browsed.service"  .... find the line that's like 'TimeoutStopSec=90' and change the 90 to a 5, then run "sudo systemctl daemon-reload"
[09:50] <fromOuttaSpace> u could set a global timeoutstop
[09:50] <fromOuttaSpace> not just for cups
[09:50] <Ben64> true
[09:50] <Ben64> cups tends to hang up more often though
[09:50] <Guest68772> yeah run for samba too lol
[09:51] <linocisco> Ben64, it is empty file
[09:51] <Guest68772> have to write the whole config fresh
[09:51] <Guest68772> no profile
[09:51] <Guest68772> zeroconfig?
[09:54] <linocisco> Ben64, what do I do?
[09:55] <Guest68772> linocisco: it still wouldnt hurt to remove those orphans
[09:55] <ChengLong> Linux Mint vs Zorin OS has anyone any opinions on the 2 OSes and whether they can recommend the easiest to use Linux on Earth or  closest to Windows? Thx
[09:55] <Guest68772> if your not useing a printer i would worry about it
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> ChengLong  no opinions in this channel
[09:56] <baizon> ChengLong: i would say Lubuntu is close to windows, but never used mint or zorin os
[09:56] <Guest68772> linocisco: it worked for me
[09:56] <baizon> ChengLong: also Kubuntu
[09:56] <linocisco> Guest68772, under the options, i found two options.
[09:57] <Guest68772> about 10-12 hours since removal and havnt had any problems
[09:57] <Ben64> linocisco: ok, in that blank thing it opens, put [Service]<ENTER>TimeoutStopSec=5
[09:57] <Guest68772> linocisco: yeah i'm looking at the same window
[09:57] <Ben64> don't actually type <ENTER>, press enter for a new line :)
[09:57] <linocisco> Ben64, i know that
[09:57] <Ben64> some people don't
[09:58] <Guest68772> linocisco: so both
[09:58] <Ben64> linocisco: also, disable your wireless connection, and unmount any network shares should you have any. then try "sudo poweroff"
[09:58] <linocisco> Ben64, done
[09:58] <Guest68772> linocisco: then select in the drop down column there ALL
[09:59] <Guest68772> and select all the packages it shows in the orphaned list
[09:59] <Guest68772> and click ok
[09:59] <Guest68772> and then pray
[09:59] <Guest68772> No Just Kidding lol
[09:59] <linocisco> Ben64, what is next?
[10:00] <Ben64> linocisco: after what
[10:00] <linocisco> Ben64, i put timeoutsec
[10:00] <Guest68772> linocisco: after that open terminal
[10:00] <Guest68772> again
[10:00] <Ben64> Guest68772: stop.
[10:00] <Guest68772> type sudo apt-get update
[10:00] <linocisco> Ben64, Guest68772 you two are conflict now
[10:00] <Ben64> linocisco: save and exit, then run "sudo systemctl daemon-reload", then "sudo poweroff"
[10:01] <Ben64> linocisco: also the stuff i said about disabling wireless and network shares
[10:05] <ben_____> hey all
[10:06] <ben_____> I'm unable to use my mouse suddenly, any help?
[10:07] <ace_me> what rights should have known_hosts
[10:07] <ace_me> ?
[10:07] <baizon> ben_____: check dmesg
[10:07] <ben_____> did that
[10:07] <Ben64> ace_me: 600
[10:08] <ace_me> I have 644 and not sure if the hosts there were added by me
[10:08] <ben_____> benzon are u available on telegram?
[10:08] <Ben64> ace_me: well 4= read so probably.
[10:08] <ace_me> yes
[10:08] <Ben64> and .ssh should be 700 anyway
[10:08] <Guest68772> let ben go first its ok i see what he's doing,
[10:09] <RxMcDonald> anyone using irssi inside of tmux?
[10:09] <Ben64> RxMcDonald: what's the real question
[10:09] <ben_____> anyone pls help?
[10:09] <ben_____> mouse has stopped working suddenly
[10:09] <RxMcDonald> Ben64: i got a computer
[10:10] <ben_____> getting error -71 on dmesg
[10:10] <linocisco> Ben64, it is now fine
[10:10] <Guest68772> linocisco: cool
[10:11] <RxMcDonald> hey ben are u ben 64 bits ? is there a ben 32 bit?
[10:11] <linocisco> Ben64, thanks.. hope it doesn't affect hooked printers at my office tomorrow.
[10:11] <Ben64> RxMcDonald: no
[10:11] <ace_me> Server refused our key
[10:11] <Guest68772> ok still finish your upgrade by removeing unneeded packages the orphaned ones are fine to remove
[10:11] <ben_____> no. he'sthe other ben McDonald
[10:11] <RxMcDonald> Ben64: wat u mean no lol
[10:12] <Ben64> linocisco: just don't shut down immediately after submitting a print job and you should be fine
[10:12] <ben_____> 😂😂😂
[10:12] <RxMcDonald> hahahahaha oh my god guys you are so hilarious!!!1
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> RxMcDonald  stop
[10:12] <RxMcDonald> MonkeyDust: stop wut lol
[10:13] <ben_____> somebody help  me please...i need this to work ASAP
[10:13] <RxMcDonald> im into computers like u
[10:13] <Guest68772> and after you remove them you'll knotice when you autoremove again you'll dump the old Ubuntu 16.04.0 files
[10:13] <Ben64> ben_____: have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in again
[10:13] <Guest68772> and get a few new upgrades
[10:13] <Guest68772> ;-)
[10:13] <ben_____> yeah ben64
[10:13] <Ben64> ben_____: and?
[10:14] <linocisco> Ben64, OK. Thanks. can I also check disk for performance? now. shutdown is faster than before. booting up is slower than shutdown.
 are you talking to me?
[10:14] <Ben64> linocisco: it's normal for booting up to be slower than shutting down
[10:14] <RxMcDonald> Ben64: u code in 64 bit assembler coder?
[10:15] <linocisco> Ben64, thanks
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> RxMcDonald  this is ubuntu support, i guess you want to be in -offtopic
[10:15] <ben_____> wtf?! who is talking to me??
[10:15] <RxMcDonald> MonkeyDust: hi
[10:16] <RxMcDonald> MonkeyDust: wats up wit u
[10:16] <ben_____> monkeydust.. nobody's supporting the on topic anyways
[10:16] <ben_____> :(
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> RxMcDonald  do you have an ubuntu support question?
 is there anyone available for support?
[10:17] <RxMcDonald> MonkeyDust: i just asked u a question and you respond with a question
[10:17] <Ben64> ben_____: pay attention, i asked you a question
[10:18] <ben_____> sorry, ben64. i got messed up with the other chats
[10:18] <ben_____> and the mouse is still not working after re-start
[10:19] <Ben64> try a different mouse
[10:19] <ben_____> i would. but I'm sure the mouse isnt dead
[10:19] <ben_____> cos it works on another pc
[10:19] <molecular_suvlak> propably its a wireless mouse?
[10:19] <Ben64> ok, so try another mouse
[10:19] <ace_me> any hint for Server refused public-key signature despite accepting key!
[10:19] <ben_____> no, molecular
[10:20] <ben_____> ben64, i need a fix for this. not a buying advice
[10:20] <ben_____> no offence.
[10:20] <Ben64> ben_____: this part is called "troubleshooting"
[10:21] <ben_____> and?
[10:21] <Ben64> "Troubleshooting is a form of problem solving, often applied to repair failed products or processes. It is a logical, systematic search for the source of a problem in order to solve it, and make the product or process operational again. "
[10:22] <ben_____> are u available on telegram, ben64?
[10:22] <Ben64> no, this isn't the late 1800s
[10:22] <ben_____> -_- the app
[10:24] <sorinello> Hello. I have upgraded to the latest version inside a VmWare machine, and after the upgrade, I get a Kernel error and the boot process doesn't continue. Is it a known issue, maybe VMware is not yet compatible with Ubuntu 16.10 ?
[10:28] <flux242> what a brilliant idea to upgrade a distro inside a vm, huh?
[10:29] <sorinello> flux242, what's that bad about it. I have a lot of things installed
[10:30] <sorinello> this way I can also see on a VM if there are upgrade problems instead of having issues with the real machines
[10:31] <MildlySeriousCat> No problems with it as long as you did a snapshot pre upgrade
[10:34] <ace_me_> what happen if I delete /comment known hosts ?
[10:35] <Ben64> you'll have to confirm them again
[10:36] <splashing> chat with ring,
[10:37] <ace_me_> # is the comment char ?
[10:37] <Ben64> ace_me_: yep
[10:41] <Guest68772> Ben64: i was just curious what version of Ubuntu you were useing
[10:42] <Ben64> 14.04
[10:42] <Guest68772> ok
[10:48] <guzzlefry> how do I fix pulseaudio connection issues?
[10:52] <guzzlefry> just kidding, had to restart it :P
[10:56] <calacal> oo
[10:57] <DerSven> hello, i got a new Asus G752VS Notebook, running Ubuntu 16.04.1, the keyboard backlight doesn't work, when i do modprobe asus-nb-wmi nothing happens
[10:57] <DerSven> any idea?
[10:58] <DerSven> after trying default ubuntu kernel i now use a selfmade kernel 4.8.1 with asus stuff enabled
[10:58] <DerSven> there are some asus::xxx folders missing in /sys/class/leds which should be created after the modules (asus-wmi, asus-nb-wmi) are loaded
[10:59] <DerSven> how can i get the keyboard backlight getting to work?
[11:00] <C0r3> Hey everyone.
[11:00] <C0r3> I want to install ubuntu 16.04 through UEFI boot. How do I make my pendrive UEFI bootable
[11:03] <solasoul> hello all
[11:06] <asdsas> anyone here?
[11:06] <solasoul> yes
[11:07] <C0r3> I want to install ubuntu 16.04 through UEFI boot. How do I make my pendrive UEFI bootable??
[11:07] <asdsas> i burned ubuntu iso image to my 16 gig usb stick after i formatted to install another system i found out that after format it has 2.48 gb what should i do?
[11:08] <solasoul> C0r3, you need a program for that
[11:10] <solasoul> C0r3, you can use an external program or use the diskpart in windows http://pastebin.com/rfrpP0Ay
[11:10] <C0r3> solasoul: Oh. Which one?
[11:11] <solasoul> C0r3, this is one Rufus https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi-4tjnl9_PAhUEDywKHUIeB9gQFghTMAo&url=https%3A%2F%2Frufus.akeo.ie%2F&usg=AFQjCNGeuqrM--4SkP8QoxA61Q4KwAEIHQ
[11:11] <C0r3> I'm solely using ubuntu operating system. Do I really need UEFI booting? I'm mean, what advantages does it offer over legacy?
[11:11] <C0r3> solasoul: I don't use windows.
[11:12] <tomreyn> you dont want to use uefi then, it just complicates matters
[11:12] <tomreyn> that's, if you have a choice
[11:12] <C0r3> tomreyn: Thanks. :)
[11:12] <solasoul> C0r3, ok one second let me see if theres an alternative for you
[11:13] <solasoul> C0r3, heres an official comparison http://askubuntu.com/questions/647303/uefi-or-legacy-which-is-advised-and-why
[11:13] <C0r3> solasoul: As tomreyn adviced, I'm thinking of a legacy install. Although if you have an alternative then let me know.
[11:14] <C0r3> solasoul: Looking at it.
[11:14] <solasoul> C0r3, Bless all the best
[11:14] <EriC^^> C0r3: uefi is newer and a little faster to boot
[11:15] <C0r3> EriC^^: I see. Then I would like to give it a try.
[11:15] <EriC^^> plus the bootloaders never get overwritten like in legacy, they all live harmoniously in the efi partition ;D
[11:16] <C0r3> EriC^^: The question is, how do I make my pendrive bootable for a UEFI installation. Coz, I had read somewhere that 'dd' doesn't work.
[11:16] <EriC^^> C0r3: dd does work, the iso works for both legacy and uefi depending on how you boot it on the pc
[11:18] <C0r3> EriC^^: Okay. So I do everything the same way. Except that I choose UEFI when my pc boots. Right?
[11:18] <EriC^^> C0r3: yeah
[11:19] <C0r3> EriC^^: Giving a try.
[11:21] <Kurolox> Hello
[11:21] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:21] <sorinello> it seems that there is an incompatibility between VMWare Workstation and Ubuntu 16.10, since it cannot be installed. It hangs during instalation
[11:21] <Kurolox> I have a laptop with an AMD graphics card, but it seems like it's not being used and Ubuntu is using the intel integrated graphics instead
[11:22] <EriC^^> Kurolox: try lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA
[11:22] <Kurolox> the "additional drivers" thing don't show anything related to graphics cards, but I can see my card in lspci
[11:24] <Kurolox> EriC^^ http://hastebin.com/rowolanefi.sql
[11:24] <EriC^^> Kurolox: looks like the amd driver is loaded
[11:26] <Kurolox> oh, fair enough. I tried with lshw -c video but it only showed the intel one
[11:26] <Kurolox> Since both the intel one and the AMD one are loaded, how can I check which one is being used?
[11:27] <EriC^^> try /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test --print
[11:28] <EriC^^> i think the intel is used until it needs to use the amd one, then stuff passes through to that one, and gets fed to the intel one, something like that
[11:28] <Kurolox> Oh. I asked because I feel like the AMD one is never being use, even under stress like some games.
[11:28] <BluesKaj> Kurolox, is there an LED or an indicator light of some kind showing which gpu is active?
[11:29] <Kurolox> Not that I know of.
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Kurolox, my i915 driver/inyel gpu can handle all graphics without a hitch including OpenGL 3.1 and 3D, but I;m no gamer
[11:34] <BluesKaj> intel
[11:41] <C0r3> EriC^^: I booted through my USB. Now I have ticked install third party software and it's asking to turnoff secure boot. And also asking me to choose a password. What is it about?
[11:43] <juanonymous> what is run by this user if the result is something like this
[11:43] <juanonymous> test  22222  0.0  0.3  43264  3536 ?        Ss   Oct12   0:00 /lib/systemd/systemd --user
[11:48] <tomreyn> juanonymous: ps uh 22222
[11:48] <tomreyn> or similar
[11:50] <juanonymous> does that mean that it is an empty process?
[11:50] <juanonymous> ah
[11:50] <juanonymous> yes it is not
[11:50] <juanonymous> there is a process
[11:50] <juanonymous> sorry
[11:50] <juanonymous> so ps uh process 2222
[11:50] <tomreyn> juanonymous: i am not sure i'm getting what you are trying to do
[11:51] <tomreyn> or which problem you are trying to solve
[11:51] <juanonymous> test  22222  0.0  0.3  43264  3536 ?        Ss   Oct12   0:00 /lib/systemd/systemd --user <- this one
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> juanonymous  what brings you here
[11:51] <juanonymous> i am asking what process is he running
[11:51] <debkad> the process is /lib/systemd/systemd
[11:52] <juanonymous> ah so it means it is a dead process
[11:52] <juanonymous> why MonkeyDust?
[11:52] <juanonymous> you are from the znc channel right?
[11:53] <tomreyn>                S    interruptible sleep (waiting for an event to complete)
[11:53] <tomreyn>                s    is a session leader
[11:54] <tomreyn> so, no, process 22222 is not a dead process. it's just sleeping / waiting.
[12:06] <xsmltx> Hi, anyone please can help me to install the wireless for this one http://pastebin.com/ARkj00dU ? Thank you.
[12:08] <xsmltx> Excuse me, I forgot to say, with no internet connection on that machine..
[12:09] <C0r3> EriC^^: The installer crashed!
[12:09] <C0r3> I'm gonna try it with another usb.
[12:10] <Rajh> Hi
[12:10] <Rajh> Can I get help to configure unbound here ? :)
[12:10] <virtiualization> xsmltx, just download a pdf on your smartphone documenting wireless setup
[12:10] <Hadeswatch3r> How does one monitor the firewall log on ubuntu 16 now .. ?
[12:10] <Hadeswatch3r> I forgot the command totally
[12:11] <virtiualization> the firewall is ydw
[12:11] <virtiualization> *ufw
[12:11] <xsmltx> Thank you virtiualization
[12:11] <Hadeswatch3r> yes I remember that... but how do you monitor the firewall log...  ?
[12:11] <virtiualization> xsmltx, yw
[12:11] <Hadeswatch3r> tail -f .. ?
[12:11] <virtiualization> RTFM
[12:12] <Hadeswatch3r> Nice answer..
[12:12] <virtiualization> lousy question imho
[12:12] <Hadeswatch3r> Just earned me 50 bucks. thanks.
[12:13] <aautar> 50 bucks?
[12:14] <Kurolox> I'm getting this when trying to open Steam. http://hastebin.com/ahitegeyuw.sql
[12:14] <Rajh> Anyone can help me with forward-zone and unbound ?
[12:19] <younder> Kurolox,  What graphics card are you using?
[12:19] <Kurolox> younder Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series
[12:22] <younder> Kyrololox: and what version of UBUNTU?
[12:23] <Kurolox> 16.10
[12:23] <younder> Kyrololox: UEFI?
[12:24] <Kurolox> nope, legacy
[12:31] <Kurolox> younder I've been trying some solutions from here but none of them are working. http://askubuntu.com/questions/771032/steam-not-opening-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[12:34] <Arbuz> Hello, has anyone tried to syncronise an Ipod via Itunes installed with PlayonLinux?
[12:36] <ilhami> hey guys
[12:36] <ilhami> I have this problem when trying to mount my 103 GB volume
[12:36] <siddharth> Hi, while comfiguring various things for my development, I deleted /usr/include/boost and /usr/lib/libboost*. But now when I try sudo-apt get install libboost-all-dev, nothing comes up in /usr/include/boost or /usr/lib/ related to boost. How can I recover it ?"
[12:37] <ilhami> Error mounting /dev/sda1/ at ...: Command-line mount-t"ext4" -o .... exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount... Stucture needs cleaning
[12:37] <ilhami> tried running xfs_repair -L but still same problem.
[12:38] <tomreyn> ilhami: so is it ext4 or xfs?
[12:39] <ilhami> ext4
[12:39] <tomreyn> ilhami: then why do you run xfs_repair on it?
[12:39] <streulma> sadly in Ubuntu 16.10 this bug exists again. I reported years ago https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/1167743
[12:39] <ilhami> how else can I repair it?
[12:40] <tomreyn> fsck (or fsck.ext4)
[12:40] <tomreyn> ilhami: what's the command you ran when the above error message was returned?
[12:40] <siddharth> I have even tried sudo apt-get install --reinstall $(dpkg -S /usr/include/boost |cut -d':' -f1|tr -d ','|tr '\n' ' '), but to no effect
[12:40] <streulma> how can I reopen an existing bug?
[12:41] <ilhami> I just tried to mount via file manager
[12:41] <ilhami> yay... fsck.ext4 worked
[12:42] <Kurolox> And thus my question got buried. Whatever, I'm gonna keep searching.
[12:42] <ilhami> What was your question?
[12:42] <Kurolox> I'm getting this when trying to open Steam. http://hastebin.com/ahitegeyuw.sql
[12:42] <Kurolox> I've been trying some solutions from here but none of them are working. http://askubuntu.com/questions/771032/steam-not-opening-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[12:43] <ilhami> you have updated your driver?
[12:43] <Kurolox> yes
[12:45] <solasoul> hi guys please there are 9 updates in 16.10 that are not updating anyone else experiencing this
[12:45] <tomreyn> ilhami: for the future: fsck is actually a wrapper which checks which file system you have and then runs the proper check / repair utility for this very file system. so if you just want to remember one command, remember fsck.
[12:45] <streulma> solasoul: after I clean install Ubuntu 16.10 there are only 3 updates
[12:46] <cerion> solasoul: i got no updates so far
[12:46] <ilhami> tomreyn, got it
[12:46] <tim> tim
[12:47] <solasoul> streulma, thanks these are the files libasn1-8-heimdal libgssapi3-heimdal libhcrypto4-heimdal
[12:47] <solasoul>   libheimbase1-heimdal libheimntlm0-heimdal libhx509-5-heimdal
[12:47] <solasoul>   libkrb5-26-heimdal libroken18-heimdal libwind0-heimdal
[12:47] <solasoul> cerion, okay will wait a few days since its new
[12:47] <ppf_> solasoul: how are they not updating
[12:47] <streulma> solasoul: heimdal is related to your phone
[12:48] <solasoul> ppf_, when i do sudo apt upgrade they are skipped in the process
[12:48] <solasoul> streulma, thanks okay im using my laptop though
[12:48] <ppf_> solasoul: run sudo apt full-upgrade
[12:48] <streulma> solasoul normally I do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:48] <solasoul> thanks
[12:49] <solasoul> ppf_, thank you
[12:49] <cerion> solasoul: try sudo apt full-upgrade ?
[12:49] <cerion> streulma: that's the old way
[12:49] <solasoul> streulma, thank you
[12:49] <solasoul> cerion, thank you
[12:49] <streulma> ah, is sudo apt full-uprade the new way? Then I am not up to date by myself :-)
[12:50] <cerion> :-)
[12:50] <UrsaTempest> Alright, this is a bit of weird problem. But for some reason, Ubuntu read my phone's mobile hotspot as ethernet.
[12:50] <UrsaTempest> It's not a big hassle, since I can just turn it off from my phone. But it's still curious and mildly concerning.
[12:50] <UrsaTempest> Anyone knows why?
[12:51] <solasoul> cerion, the sudo apt full upgrade didnt work but the dist-upgrade did but dpkg is locked
[12:51] <solasoul> will close a few programs and try again
[12:51] <matej_> UrsaTempest difne "ubuntu read"
[12:51] <EriC^^> UrsaTempest: what do you mean reads it as ethernet?
[12:51] <matej_> *define
[12:51] <Maxou> Hello please help me : https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-Yoga-Series-Notebooks/Yoga-700-14ISK-Keyboard-and-trackpad-not-working/m-p/3455898#M44861
[12:52] <UrsaTempest> The wifi icon is replaced by arrow up, arrow down, and I can't detect other wifi, and I can't disconnected like normal wifi short of turning it off from my phone.
[12:52] <ppf_> solasoul: you can only run one apt process at a time
[12:53] <solasoul> ppf_, i know i have run it once it kept it back then when i try to do the dist-upgrade it says dpkg locked
[12:53] <solasoul> ppf_, Kept the updates of those 9 files back
[12:53] <streulma> UrsaTempest known bug, reboot your computer
[12:53] <UrsaTempest> ...and then?
[12:53] <UrsaTempest> I just fresh of rebooting my laptop, and it doesn't seem solved the problem...
[12:53] <streulma> make connection again :-)
[12:53] <ppf_> solasoul: it's full-upgrade
[12:54] <matej_> UrsaTempest then it should be okay, if not, reboot to previous kernel and do update again
[12:54] <streulma> it's a known bug in NetworkManager
[12:54] <UrsaTempest> I'm not upgrading.
[12:54] <xcodec> why not
[12:54] <streulma> no it exists in 16.04
[12:54] <UrsaTempest> It is fairly fresh Ubuntu 16, literally just done installing it this morning.
[12:54] <streulma> hopefully it's solved in 16.10...
[12:54] <xcodec> lol
[12:54] <matej_> UrsaTempest yes, but also 16.04 has new kernel that came out few days back and did this to Network Manager
[12:55] <streulma> UrsaTempest I had the same problem with new installed Ubuntu
[12:55] <UrsaTempest> Well, I just use this Linux thingy from three weeks ago. How do I roll back?
[12:55] <tokam> Can anyone here please fix the qt package for anki
[12:55] <tokam> QtWebToolKit is not linked anymore in qt4 but should be?
[12:56] <streulma> UrsaTempest Trust us :) reboot and it is solved, or just logout and login
[12:56] <tokam> ImportError: No module named QtWebKit
[12:56] <UrsaTempest> Right.
[12:56] <UrsaTempest> I'll do it! ...well, maybe later, I still want to read some other threads..
[12:57] <Desetude> Hey, I'm attempting to install ubuntu gnome on my (secondary, primary has windows) harddrive with a CD. Every time I try to do this, the harddrive isnt shown in UEFI boot options in bios, it's only shown in legacy. And then nothing happens if I attempt to boot to that hard drive on legacy.
[12:57] <tokam> http://askubuntu.com/q/836983/222371
[12:57] <EriC^^> Desetude: are you in the live usb right now?
[12:58] <Desetude> EriC^^: I'm on windows atm, can boot to it
[12:58] <EriC^^> Desetude: ok give it a boot and come back here
[12:58] <solasoul> streulma, Ok so i logged off and logged back on but i still have this issue any workaround E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[12:58] <solasoul> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[12:59] <EriC^^> !aptlock | solasoul
[12:59] <EriC^^> solasoul: are you using sudo?
[12:59] <Castor_Troy> Audio is not working on xubuntu, how can i fix it ?
[12:59] <solasoul> EriC^^, yes i am
[12:59] <solasoul> ubottu, thank you
[13:00] <streulma> solasoul it is also possible that Ubuntu is doing apt things in the background
[13:00] <UrsaTempest> ... ubottu is a bot?!
[13:00] <solasoul> streulma, okay thanks it worked
[13:00] <matej_> !ubottu
[13:01] <solasoul> ubottu, thanks
[13:01] <solasoul> lol haha nice
[13:01] <streulma> I want to repoen my bug :-(
[13:02] <solasoul> problems all solved blessings
[13:07] <Desetude> EriC^^:  I have somehow lost my instalation cd, so I'm now putting it on a USB and will be going on it in about 5mins
[13:07] <EriC^^> ok
[13:08] <Desetude> EriC^^: also, are you here often? I swear I've been in here before and saw you then as well
[13:08] <ilhami> can I not create new partitions during the ubuntu installation ? :S
[13:09] <EriC^^> Desetude: yeah i'm usually in the channel
[13:09] <EriC^^> ilhami: yeah you can
[13:09] <ilhami> how many MB does the filesystem itself need?
[13:09] <ilhami> like the / .. I need a partition for home dir and one for /
[13:10] <EriC^^> around 7-8gb minimum
[13:10] <EriC^^> 20gb is probably good
[13:11] <grid_> hey
[13:12] <grid_> does anyone has experience with ubuntu on hyper-v? i mean is there any guest addin to make it all smooth running? like virtualbox also has
[13:12] <matej_> what is the default resource list in tab "other software" in software and updates app?
[13:12] <ilhami> The size entered is too small.. The size you entered is smaller than the minimum size of the partition. Please enter a larger size to continue. :S
[13:13] <ilhami> never mind.
[13:13] <akik> grid_: the hyper-v kernel modules are included with the linux kernel
[13:15] <ilhami> should both /home and / be primary partitions? or one of them should be logical?
[13:17] <matej_> this is my resources after upgrading to 16.10 (I manually added the snwh/pulp) http://i.imgur.com/ZPQOQoj.png .. how to fix this?
[13:17] <akik> ilhami: it doesn't matter
[13:18] <ilhami> well would it make sense to have the /home partition on another HDD? :)
[13:19] <ilhami> I have one SSD and one HDD
[13:20] <arneis> himcesjf- I upgraded my distro from 14.04 LTS to 16.04.1 LTS and now I cannot boot my system. I get the error "Check that kernel supports aes-xts-plain64 cipher" (I am using LUKS), and then it drops me to a busybox initramfs prompt. I'm a bit stuck. I can access the unencrypted boot partition if I boot from a LiveCD but that's it. Can anyone help?
[13:20] <arneis> er, that was for everyone, stupid tab completion :P
[13:23] <codfection> !debian
[13:24] <freddish> My system crashed, where can i see the log file what went wrong.
[13:24] <codfection> freddish, event manager
[13:24] <freddish> Where can i find that ?
[13:25] <EriC^^> freddish: /var/log/kern.log*
[13:25] <Desetude_> EriC^^: on the live USB now
[13:25] <EriC^^> Desetude_: great, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:26] <Desetude_> http://termbin.com/5ji3 sda 3, 4 and 2 are for my ubuntu installation
[13:27] <Desetude_> ( I havent quit)
[13:27] <EriC^^> Desetude_: do you know which is / and which is /home ?
[13:28] <Desetude_> I think 3 is / and 4 is /home, I'm not 100% sure
[13:29] <EriC^^> ok, try sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[13:30] <Desetude_> EriC^^: done
[13:30] <EriC^^> Desetude_: grep efi /mnt/etc/fstab
[13:31] <Desetude_> EriC^^: # /boot/efi was on /dev/sdb2 during installation UUID=646D-1733  /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       1
[13:31] <C0r3> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 16.04 in UEFI mode. But the installer crashes everytime.
[13:31] <EriC^^> Desetude_: ok, so it's installed in uefi mode, and it used the windows efi partition
[13:31] <C0r3> The ISO image is proper (I checked md5sum) and I've also turned secure boot off.
[13:32] <EriC^^> Desetude_: sudo efibootmgr -v  (install it if it's not installed sudo apt-get install efibootmgr)
[13:32] <Desetude_> EriC^^: gave me a load of info, BootCurrent: 0006 Timeout: 2 seconds BootOrder: 0000,0004,0006,0002,0001,0003,0005 Boot0000* Windows Boot Manager and some other stuff
[13:33] <EriC^^> is ubuntu there?
[13:33] <EriC^^> which laptop model is this?
[13:33] <Desetude_> is custom pc
[13:33] <Desetude_> oh
[13:34] <matej_> C0r3 when does the installer crash?
[13:34] <EriC^^> ok, is ubuntu one of the entries?
[13:34] <C0r3> matej_: While installing grub2
[13:34] <Desetude_> ubuntu is there
[13:34] <Desetude_> Boot0004
[13:34] <EriC^^> Desetude_: ok, some bios are kind of stubborn and only like to boot the windows boot manager
[13:35] <Desetude_> I could boot into ubuntu when it was on my primary hard drive
[13:35] <Desetude_> but this time I didn't 'install alongside windows', I created custom partitions
[13:35] <Desetude_> on my secondary hard drive
[13:35] <EriC^^> Desetude_: ok, try changing the boot order
[13:35] <matej_> C0r3 did you create EFI partition on your drive?
[13:36] <EriC^^> sudo efibootmgr -o 0004,0000,0006,0002,0001,0003,0005
[13:36] <Desetude_> to the hard drive?
[13:36] <Desetude_> ok
[13:36] <EriC^^> that should put ubuntu before windows
[13:36] <Desetude_> BootCurrent: 0006 Timeout: 2 seconds BootOrder: 0004,0000,0006,0002,0001,0003,0005 Boot0000* Windows Boot Manager Boot0001  Hard Drive Boot0002* UEFI: Built-in EFI Shell Boot0003  CD/DVD Drive Boot0004* ubuntu Boot0005  USB KEY Boot0006* UEFI: Generic Flash Disk 8.07, Partition 1
[13:36] <C0r3> matej_: I don't know what it is. I used 'dd if=path_to_file of=/dev/sdb' command to make the usb bootable
[13:36] <ppreston1954> try
[13:36] <EriC^^> Desetude_: ok, can you run sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:37] <ppreston1954> try re-installing the grub loader
[13:37] <Desetude_> http://termbin.com/38a8
[13:37] <EriC^^> Desetude_: ok looks to be pointing to the correct file and partition
[13:38] <EriC^^> Desetude_: as a last check run sudo umount /mnt && sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt
[13:38] <matej_> C0r3 did you clean install? or alongside some other OS?
[13:38] <EriC^^> then ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:39] <Desetude_> http://termbin.com/d31a
[13:39] <EriC^^> C0r3: there's a tiny arrow on the left of the installer window that opens up a terminal of what it's doing, maybe that'll help to see what's happening
[13:39] <EriC^^> C0r3: you can always manually reinstall grub from a live usb chroot, the installer basically just removes extra packages after installing grub i think that's all
[13:40] <EriC^^> Desetude_: ok, the ubuntu efi file is there, try rebooting and see what happens, if it still doesn't work you can try workarounds for the bios, or maybe enabling/trusting the ubuntu efi file in the bios might help
[13:41] <Desetude_> EriC^^: so I should see if the hard drive is under UEFI boot options?
[13:41] <OnOut2k16> http://ilredentore.dynv6.net/
[13:41] <EriC^^> enable uefi, it should boot ubuntu now cause its first in the boot order of the efi list
[13:42] <Desetude_> kk
[13:42] <EriC^^> if it still wont work try enabling secureboot and trusting the ubuntu efi file (you might need to set a bios admin password to get that option)
[13:43] <C0r3> matej_: Clean install
[13:43] <Desetude> EriC^^: it just booted to windows
[13:44] <Desetude> EriC^^: Ill check out what the bios says
[13:44] <EriC^^> Desetude: ok
[13:46] <EriC^^> ;
[13:46] <EriC^^> ';'
[13:46] <EriC^^> oops
[13:47] <UrsaTempest> Another question! Is there a way to change date format, month and days name, etc etc without it being set automatically in Region?
[13:48] <Desetude_> EriC^^: I could launch into ubuntu! How do I see which disk it's installed on
[13:48] <UrsaTempest> I prefer English for my UI need, but Indonesian numeral and measurement, and international date format
[13:48] <EriC^^> Desetude_: what do you mean?
[13:48] <EriC^^> how did you launch?
[13:48] <cdel> Hello everyone
[13:48] <Desetude_> Went into boot options and it was there
[13:48] <Desetude_> but it was strange, it had the name of my other hard drive on it
[13:49] <Desetude_> idk if that's any of windows doing
[13:49] <EriC^^> odd
[13:49] <Desetude_> so how do I see where the installation is
[13:49] <EriC^^> it's in sda
[13:49] <Desetude_> well
[13:49] <cdel> Does anyone know of a good alternate to ShareX for Ubuntu 16.04?
[13:49] <EriC^^> if you mean the name of the same windows hdd
[13:49] <EriC^^> that's normal, cause the efi file is on the windows hdd
[13:49] <Desetude_> oh
[13:49] <Desetude_> ok
[13:50] <C0r3> EriC^^: The error is: E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1). grub-installer: info: Calling apt install grub-efi-amd64-signed failed
[13:50] <C0r3> May be I think I should connect to internet.
[13:50] <EriC^^> C0r3: hmm it shouldn't need internet
[13:50] <EriC^^> worth a shot i guess, maybe enable updating while installing
[13:51]  * Jfault should not have updated to 16.10
[13:51] <Jfault> :/
[13:51] <EriC^^> Jfault: why you say that?
[13:52] <Desetude_> EriC^^: tyvm it works fine now
[13:53] <EriC^^> Desetude_: great, np
[14:02] <Castor_Troy> I am on xubuntu 16.10. Is there something that shows my cpu temperature in system tray?
[14:03] <C0r3> EriC^^: When I create disk partitions do I have to create EFI partition?
[14:05] <Dinosaurio> Hey. Will Unity 8 be the default desktop environment in Ubuntu 18.04?
[14:06] <C0r3> matej_: Can you please tell me, if I need to create efi partition for installing ubuntu in UEFI mode?
[14:06] <EriC^^> C0r3: yeah
[14:07] <St1muL> clear
[14:07] <St1muL> всем привет =)
[14:07] <EriC^^> C0r3: if you choose "erase the disk and install ubuntu" it does everything for you
[14:07] <matej_> C0r3 yes, you should.. make EFI partition first (100MB should be great) then ext4 (size of your choice) and then swap partition (slightly bigger than your RAM is)
[14:08] <matej_> C0r3 but as EriC^^ said, you should do the erase the disk :)
[14:14] <Dinosaurio> because unity 8 sucks as hell
[14:15] <Dinosaurio> so I hope there's an alternative to it
[14:15] <C0r3> matej_, EriC^^: I made an efi partition. Let's see if it works out now. I've also connected my pc to internet this time. Will take a lot of time to download updates (working on 120kBps).
[14:16] <johny_> eyyyy
[14:16] <EriC^^> C0r3: cool
[14:16] <EriC^^> brb
[14:17] <matej_> C0r3 I hope it will work :)
[14:21] <tomreyn> Dinosaurio: unless you have ubuntu support questions, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere. thanks.
[14:28] <xcodec> is there a commant to reset OS like in android ?
[14:29] <xcodec> command*
[14:29] <ppf_> no
[14:29] <ppf_> what would that command do?
[14:30] <xcodec> reset OS
[14:30] <ace_me_> I did run rkhunter on a VPS and it allert me that on 5th May 2016 sshd The file properties have changed. Was this a normal update ?
[14:30] <C0r3> matej_, EriC^^: It worked! So the main problem was I didn't create an EFI partition. Why do we need an EFI partition anyway?
[14:30] <EriC^^> C0r3: the efi files go there (they boot the main os)
[14:31] <C0r3> EriC^^: Why wasn't it was necessary in Legacy boot?
[14:31] <C0r3> why wasn't it necessary in legacy boot **
[14:31] <EriC^^> in old legacy the bootloader used to be in the mbr (first 512bytes of the disk) and that would load the other stuff, in uefi they decided to make a partition for it
[14:32] <Guest11031> marvin
[14:33] <C0r3> I see. Sad that I never came across that information while reading.
[14:33] <Guest11031> hello
[14:34] <C0r3> EriC^^, matej_: Thanks a lot. You guys made my day. I bought my laptop just today and this was my first install (on my new laptop).
[14:34] <darien> So I have this problem where when I startup my computer it freezes for about 1 minute then I can login and everything. But it's quite annoying.
[14:34] <EriC^^> C0r3: awesome! have a good one :D
[14:34] <matej_> C0r3 !yay :) i'm happy you fixed it :)
[14:35] <ace_me_> sshd is it changed when an update happen ?
[14:35] <darien> Any ideas?
[14:36] <C0r3> EriC^^, matej_: One more question. I have a fingerprint scanner in my laptop. Can I use it on ubuntu?
[14:37] <EriC^^> C0r3: no idea about that
[14:37] <EriC^^> darien: try systemd-analyze
[14:37] <EriC^^> darien: try systemd-analyze blame
[14:37] <darien> EriC^^:  Ok
[14:38] <varaindemian> idk why but sometimes the raddiance gets automatically replaced byt the default one (Ambiance). The font remains the same. Can someone help?
[14:38] <varaindemian> Raddiance theme*
[14:38] <varaindemian> 16.04
[14:38] <matt_> .
[14:38] <darien> EriC^^:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23333970/
[14:39] <Guest94081> hey men
[14:39] <EriC^^> darien: looks like upower is making it take so long
[14:40] <EriC^^> try grep upower /var/log/syslog
[14:41] <arneis> I've made a bit of progress.... but not I'm getting this error on boot "Volume group 'cabernet-vg' not found". I'm not sure why it's looking for that name, the actual volume group is called 'cabernet-vg-root'
[14:41] <arneis> it's correct in the grub.cfg - where is it getting that other name (without the -root at the end) from?
[14:41] <darien> EriC^^: It says a program is running in it so no commands are going through. How do I fix that?
[14:42] <EriC^^> darien: try sudo journalctl -u upower
[14:43] <darien> EriC^^:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23333995/
[14:47] <C0r3> Bye
[14:48] <EriC^^> darien: any peripherals attached while the pc is booting?
[14:49] <darien> Yes, an external disk drive, external cd player, mouse and keyboard ofc, also a headset and a mic.
[14:49] <V7> Guys
[14:49] <V7> How to backup /dev/sda1 to USB drive
[14:49] <V7> Is that possible with Clonezilla and how ?
[14:50] <EriC^^> V7: yeah or dd
[14:50] <V7> Look ...
[14:50] <EriC^^> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/path/to/file bs=4M conv=notrunc
[14:50] <V7> I've started VirtualBox with Ubuntu installed on /dev/sda and connected USB pendrive to it ...
[14:50] <EriC^^> yeah?
[14:50] <V7> How to backup Ubuntu partition to USB drive
[14:51] <darien> EriC^^: Anything else I need to do?
[14:51] <EriC^^> darien: try "less /var/log/syslog" and then type "/upower" and hit n to go to next matches
[14:52] <adfgat5> help, i cant ""run sudo cryptsetup -o 2056 -b 11800000 resize crypt1"" as describet in  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[14:52] <EriC^^> V7: what's the usb's name?
[14:52] <V7> /dev/sdb1
[14:52] <ace_me_> how to md5sum compare a file on my vps with the ubuntu current repository, assuming that I did my last updates on my vps
[14:52] <EriC^^> V7: ok you want to completely clone the ubuntu sda to the usb?
[14:53] <V7> yup
[14:53] <V7> The whole folder
[14:53] <V7> We can exlude Download folder
[14:53] <darien> EriC^^: When I do /upower then it says "pattern not found"
[14:54] <barq> How can I run memtest from a live CD?
[14:54] <adfgat5> please help
[14:54] <MildlySeriousCat> It is an option as you boot, before you are in Ubuntu, barq
[14:54] <ilhami> help with what?
[14:55] <barq> I didn't get this option
[14:55] <barq> I am now logged in
[14:55] <V7> EriC^^: Also ... we can do the ISO image from Ubuntu partition
[14:55] <adfgat5> i cant ""run sudo cryptsetup -o 2056 -b 11800000 resize crypt1"" as describet in  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions ilhami
[14:55] <sw> hello
[14:56] <adfgat5> i cant ""run sudo cryptsetup -o 2056 -b 11800000 resize crypt1"" as describet in  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[14:56] <EriC^^> darien: oh
[14:56] <adfgat5> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23334065/
[14:56] <adfgat5> i have an offset and i cant Resize with cryptsetup
[14:57] <EriC^^> V7: sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=4M
[14:57] <darien> EriC^^: It started doing it after I switched my graphics driver from X to NVIDIA
[14:57] <EriC^^> that should clone the whole installation to sdb
[14:57] <EriC^^> darien: aha, i found a thread that had something similar let me grab it
[14:58] <darien> EriC^^: Ok, cool thanks.
[14:58] <adfgat5> please i have to do work
[14:59] <EriC^^> darien: http://askubuntu.com/questions/765969/long-delay-after-bootin-upower-service-requires-26s/826284
[14:59] <darien> EriC^^:  Thanks
[15:00] <sw> i got some trouble getting the keyboard backlight to work on Asus G752VS Notebook on Ubuntu 16.04.1, Kernel 4.8.1, modules asus-wmi and asus-nb-wmi are loaded, but there is no asus-device link in /sys/class/leds
[15:00] <adfgat5> can i somehow mount my partition wit an offset?
[15:01] <EriC^^> darien: no problem
[15:02] <EriC^^> adfgat5: what are you trying to do
[15:02] <sw> can someone give me a hint how to solve the backlight problem?
[15:02] <adfgat5> i was trying to resize my luks-crypt partition
[15:03] <adfgat5> now i only want to get the data
[15:03] <adfgat5> i saw my bakup was corrupted
[15:03] <adfgat5> and the rezise isnt workin
[15:04] <adfgat5> now i have an offset in my partition
[15:04] <adfgat5> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23334065/
[15:05] <EriC^^> adfgat5: cant you mount it with mount -o offset=.... ?
[15:05] <adfgat5> yes failed
[15:06] <EriC^^> i dunno much about luks and stuff.. but did you decrypt it successfully?
[15:06] <EriC^^> maybe you need to add the offset there?
[15:06] <adfgat5> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23334120/
[15:07] <EriC^^> what does sudo parted -l show?
[15:07] <V7> EriC^^: Can I use dd when /dev/sda is mounted ?
[15:07] <V7> And what the easiest way to do backup ?
[15:07] <EriC^^> V7: no boot from a live iso
[15:08] <V7> EriC^^: ?
[15:08] <EriC^^> depends if you want a 1-for-1 clone of the disk or just backup of the install
[15:08] <V7> EriC^^: I need a backup like ... if my partition is damaged and all is removed ...
[15:08] <EriC^^> the less time consuming would be to tar the install
[15:08] <adfgat5> i decrypted it
[15:08] <V7> Then I'm cloning the image to partition and booting into it
[15:08] <EriC^^> how big is the disk
[15:09] <V7> ~10 gb
[15:09] <EriC^^> easiest would be to just make an iso image i think
[15:09] <adfgat5> d
[15:09] <EriC^^> dd and you'll be done
[15:09] <EriC^^> V7: how big is the usb?
[15:10] <V7> EriC^^: This command which you've sended earlier ?
[15:10] <EriC^^> adfgat5: pastebin sudo parted -l to see it
[15:10] <EriC^^> V7: it might need to be modified a litttle but yea
[15:10] <V7> USB is 32gb
[15:11] <gunixr> hy guys, i have an asus e200ha with cherry trail cpu and sound don't run, it's a kernel's bug! There is a solution?
[15:11] <adfgat5> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23334141/
[15:11] <EriC^^> ok, mount the usb and then run dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/install.img bs=4M conv=notrunc
[15:11] <EriC^^> V7: ^
[15:11] <V7> USB live I guess ?
[15:11] <EriC^^> then when you want to restore later you just do dd if=/mnt/install.img of=/dev/sda bs=4M
[15:12] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:12] <V7> EriC^^: Can I change *.img dir ?
[15:12] <EriC^^> V7: yeah once you mount the usb you can put it anywhere you want
[15:12] <V7> Like ... /home/v7/install.img ?
[15:12] <V7> Roger
[15:12] <V7> Thank you EriC^^
[15:13] <EriC^^> V7: no problem
[15:13] <V7> Wht is the easiest Live USB system for that :D ?
[15:13] <V7> SliTaz ?
[15:13] <V7> bUT
[15:13] <V7> sTOP
[15:14] <EriC^^> adfgat5: try sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-rootp1 /mnt
[15:14] <adfgat5> mount: special device /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-rootp1 does not exist
[15:15] <V7> I need only console ... so ... which one choose ?
[15:15] <EriC^^> adfgat5: try ls -l /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root*
[15:15] <EriC^^> V7: hmm ubuntu :D
[15:15] <V7> EriC^^: That the Desktop one xD
[15:15] <V7> I need low weight one like Arch Linux
[15:16] <V7> Is that a good idea ?
[15:16] <EriC^^> V7: debian has a server iso that's 500mb almost
[15:16] <V7> hmm
[15:16] <Guy1524> hey guys, do any of you know how to use wine gallium 9 w/ playonlinux?  Just install it and use system?
[15:18] <adfgat5> EriC^^ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Okt 16 15:10 /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root -> ../dm-1
[15:18] <EriC^^> adfgat5: try sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /mnt
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> Guy1524  there's this https://xellink.com/2014/11/20/tutorial-on-wine-gallium-9-possibly-doubling-your-framerate/
[15:18] <Guy1524> ok thanks
[15:20] <adfgat5> EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23334185/
[15:20] <EriC^^> adfgat5: try dmesg | tail and see if it mentions anything else
[15:21] <adfgat5> EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23334189
[15:24] <varaindemian> anyone?
[15:24] <varaindemian> idk why but sometimes the raddiance theme gets automatically replaced by the default one after a period of time (after couple of reboots)(Ambiance). The font remains the same. Can someone help?
[15:25] <ilhami> how do I use the facebook dash plugin ? :S
[15:28] <adfgat5> fuck this
[15:28] <thr0wExc3pt1on> lol, rage quit
[15:28] <sekida> greetings people of the internet
[15:29] <ilhami> :D
[15:30] <thr0wExc3pt1on> anyone have any recommendations channel wise? first time using WeeChat. For example, is there a corny joke channel?
[15:30] <ilhami> maybe not the right place to ask about joke channels. :)
[15:31] <thr0wExc3pt1on> lol
[15:31] <thr0wExc3pt1on> well, i have my share of ubuntu issues as well so...
[15:31] <ppf_> !list | thr0wExc3pt1on
[15:31] <ilhami> go ahead. :-) I am sure there are plenty of people in here who can help you with those.
[15:32] <ppf_> !alis | thr0wExc3pt1on
[15:32] <thr0wExc3pt1on> ah, thanks for that
[15:32] <thr0wExc3pt1on> ok, well though this is still prolly not on topic
[15:32] <thr0wExc3pt1on> should I just remove this client and install irssi?
[15:32] <thr0wExc3pt1on> what makes this one better?
[15:33] <ilhami> that is totally up to you.
[15:33] <ilhami> are you using Hexchat right now?
[15:33] <thr0wExc3pt1on> nah
[15:33] <thr0wExc3pt1on> I just heard that Irssi was around earlier
[15:33] <thr0wExc3pt1on> but was a bit more clunky
[15:34] <thr0wExc3pt1on> less intuitive to use
[15:34] <ilhami> you are using Weechat?
[15:34] <thr0wExc3pt1on> Yup
[15:35] <ilhami> it's like asking, "should I use emacs over vim?" :)
[15:35] <ppf_> you never ask that loud!
[15:35] <thr0wExc3pt1on> Ya, well, Vim wins that one
[15:35] <thr0wExc3pt1on> clearly.
[15:35] <thr0wExc3pt1on> :D
[15:36] <ilhami> don't even start that war. :)
[15:36] <MildlySeriousCat> You misspelled nano
[15:37] <thr0wExc3pt1on> with just a couple of plugins, (ctrl-p, fugative, ag.vim)
[15:37] <thr0wExc3pt1on> you can take over the world...
[15:37] <thr0wExc3pt1on> If I just press these keys in the right order...
[15:38] <thr0wExc3pt1on> If i just knew the perfect order to press them...
[15:38] <thr0wExc3pt1on> ok ok fine
[15:39] <thr0wExc3pt1on> I'll ask a relavent question
[15:39] <thr0wExc3pt1on> Unity or Gnome?
[15:39] <ilhami> Unity :p
[15:39] <thr0wExc3pt1on> no waaaaaaay
[15:39] <thr0wExc3pt1on> really?
[15:39] <thr0wExc3pt1on> why?
[15:39] <ovrflw0x> yo niggas i've got bluetooth issue, when i connect bluetooth it "AUTOMATICALLY" doesn't switch to "High Fidelity A2DP" i have to choose it everytime i connect the bluetooth headset which is boring, how to make it default? i'm using 16.04
[15:40] <ilhami> thr0wExc3pt1on, Gnome is fine too.
[15:40] <thr0wExc3pt1on> I ask cause I just switched :D
[15:40] <ilhami> to Gnome?
[15:41] <thr0wExc3pt1on> yea
[15:41] <ovrflw0x> anyone?
[15:41] <ovrflw0x> whoone?
[15:41] <thr0wExc3pt1on> felt it was more customizable
[15:41] <ovrflw0x> noone?
[15:41] <ovrflw0x> someone?
[15:41] <ovrflw0x> iONE
[15:41] <thr0wExc3pt1on> I'm not the one to ask about bluetooth
[15:41] <thr0wExc3pt1on> I only use wires...
[15:41] <thr0wExc3pt1on> I don't even use Wifi
[15:41] <ovrflw0x> damn you regressive retard
[15:41] <thr0wExc3pt1on> It's faster.
[15:41] <arneis> Can anyone help me with this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/837922/volume-group-not-found-after-updating-to-16-04-1-lts
[15:42] <ilhami> ovrflw0x, watch the language
[15:42] <ovrflw0x> ilhami, i don't watch i type the language
[15:42] <thr0wExc3pt1on> ilhami are you an admin? or something? out of curiousity?
[15:42] <de-facto> !language | ovrflw0x
[15:42] <ilhami> thr0wExc3pt1on, not at all but admins are probably watching this convo.
[15:43] <ovrflw0x> de-facto, how to fix the problem i'm having?
[15:43] <thr0wExc3pt1on> cool, how do you do that? alert me when you send msg?
[15:43] <tomreyn> arneis: how did you upgrade?
[15:43] <ovrflw0x> hey thr0wExc3pt1on how's it hangin bud
[15:43] <thr0wExc3pt1on> ovrflw0x I'm a weechat n00b
[15:43] <ovrflw0x> ahh i c
[15:44] <ilhami> there is an ##ubuntu-social channel for off-topic convos.
[15:44] <arneis> tomreyn- apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade; do-release-upgrade
[15:44] <thr0wExc3pt1on> how did you do that?
[15:44] <de-facto> ovrflw0x i dont know, please ask polite and show some patience, this is a support channel mainly by volunteers
[15:44] <ovrflw0x> thr0wExc3pt1on, this ilhami is bugging us
[15:44] <tomreyn> arneis: okay, and the release upgrade finished fine?
[15:45] <arneis> yes, apart from a few errors about Plex which I don't care that much about
[15:45] <ilhami> #ubuntu-offtopic ***
[15:46] <ilhami> I think it's called
[15:46] <tomreyn> arneis: i'm afraid i got to go now, but maybe in 45 min i can help in case you don't find anyone else. gather some info on your system in the meantime. put it on a pastebin. such as cat /etc/fstab; blkid; lvs; pvs; parted -ls
[15:46] <tomreyn> !pastebin | arneis
[15:46] <ppf_> arneis: can you access a shell when this happens?
[15:47] <arneis> no, it just drops to busybox
[15:47] <ppf_> that's a shell
[15:47] <arneis> I can get a shell by booting using a live CD, mounting my drives then doing chroot
[15:48] <arneis> well it's a shell of sorts, but I think it only lets me access the initramfs
[15:48] <ppf_> run systemctl enable lvm2-lvmetad.service lvm2-lvmetad.socket
[15:49] <arneis> ppf_: yep I tried that... no joy
[15:50] <arneis> tomreyn- thanks, I'll grab that info now
[15:50] <ppf_> what else did you try?
[15:52] <arneis> ppf_ I tried installing linux-image-extras-virtual, update-initramfs, update-grub, and then those two systemctl commands I found with a bit of googling
[15:52] <ppf_> lvmetad may be a red herring though
[15:52] <ppf_> you can switch it of in lvm.conf
[15:52] <ppf_> off*
[15:52] <arneis> I do get some errors about invalid lines in crypttab when I run update-initramfs
[15:52] <arneis> but those lines were identical when I was running 14.04 and worked fine
[15:52] <ppf_> paste those please
[15:53] <br0laren> Hello
[15:53] <CarlFK> morning
[15:53] <br0laren> How do I check the update history on wine?
[15:53] <ppf_> from the shell, list available volumegroups, please
[15:53] <Guestie> I've heard that an advantage of using Linux over Windows is that Linux doesn't have to compile. Does this mean that almost everything that I do on a Linux machine is more efficient on resources than a Windows machine?
[15:53] <ppf_> basicly do what tomreyn suggested
[15:54] <ppf_> Guestie: you heard wrong
[15:54] <ppf_> Guestie: makes no sense
[15:55] <Guestie> ppf_, isn't Windows compiled and encrypted and stuff, to attempt to protect the operating system from being cracked?
[15:56] <fiki_> hai
[15:56] <ppf_> of course it's compiled, but what you say makes no sense
[15:56] <arneis> ppf_: termbin.com/1tk9
[15:57] <ppf_> that's your crypttab?
[15:57] <ppf_> what are the errors you get for that?
[15:58] <arneis> ppf_: http://termbin.com/8i5b
[15:58] <ppf_> the sdd5_crypt entry looks abit suspicious
[15:59] <arneis> I think this may also be a red herring, because I don't think it's getting as far as encryption
[15:59] <ppf_> arneis: is your vg encrypted?
[15:59] <arneis> yes
[15:59] <ppf_> run tomreyn's commands please
[16:00] <Tadgy> Is anyone having a problem with keys randomly repeating in ubuntu 1610?  I notice it when i'm on console - i'll press and release a key, but it'll repeat a few times.
[16:02] <yuriy> Hello guys
[16:02] <arneis> http://termbin.com/0uh0
[16:02] <arneis> http://termbin.com/issq
[16:02] <yuriy> I have Kubuntu 15.10, but try to upgrade it to Kubuntu 16.10
[16:02] <yuriy> but it always tell me about 16.04 only
[16:02] <ilhami> Tadgy, could be problems with your graphics card.
[16:02] <arneis> http://termbin.com/wcqn http://termbin.com/y38u http://termbin.com/fbkn
[16:02] <ilhami> you have the latest drivers?
[16:02] <yuriy> that it possible to upgrate to
[16:02] <yuriy> what's wrong here?
[16:03] <Tadgy> ilhami: How would you graphics card affect the keyboard in console?
[16:03] <Tadgy> I presume the drivers are the latest i915 ones in the kernel.
[16:03] <ilhami> is it only in the console?
[16:04] <Tadgy> ihavoc: That i've noticed, yes.  But i've not spent a significant amount of time in X terminals to say for sure.
[16:04] <ilhami> I once had a similar problem where keys were repeating
[16:04] <ilhami> but that was on my old laptop.
[16:05] <Tadgy> This didn't happen in 1604, so it's a new thing with 1610
[16:05] <ilhami> I see.
[16:05] <Tadgy> I thought it might be the ubuntu kernel, so I tried a non-patched 4.8 and it still happened.
[16:05] <Lopa> did anyone have installed arc-theme in ubuntu 16.10?
[16:06] <curlyears> heigh hough
[16:07] <Tadgy> Is it safe to grab the kernel from 1604 and run it on 1610 to see if the problem persists?
[16:07] <curlyears> Tadgy: how do you mean, "safer?"
[16:08] <curlyears> generaly, I would consider it a bad idea to mix kernals swith tghe rest of two different releases.
[16:08] <Tadgy> curlyears: Well, does anything in 1610 depend on the 4.8 kernel?  And will bork if I downgrade it?
[16:08] <DexterF> hi
[16:08] <curlyears> Tadgy:  I don't knnow the answerws to those questions, sorry
[16:08] <curlyears> \\
[16:09] <curlyears> dexter
[16:09] <Tadgy> curlyears: Well, I need to figure out where this repeat key bug is being caused, so thought going back to a known kernel that didn't have the bug would be a good idea...
[16:09] <DexterF> 16.04 live on a laptop, ethernet tries to go up, goes down, is disconnected. question: which ethernet device is that anyway? it's not eth0
[16:10] <Lopa> did anyone have installed arc-theme in ubuntu 16.10?
[16:10] <th0r> DexterF, what shows in ifconfig?
[16:10] <ilhami> does Ubuntu have a tweak tool for Unity?
[16:10] <ppf_> arneis: are you able to mount these things in the chroot?
[16:11] <Lopa> @ilhami yes
[16:11] <arneis> ppf_: yes
[16:11] <ilhami> Lopa, what is it called?
[16:11] <Lopa> @ilhami unity tweak tool
[16:12] <ilhami> got it.
[16:13] <ppf_> i think the crypttab is alright, the errors are probably misleading, theres a PR for that on launchpad
[16:13] <Guy1524_> hey guys, when I try to install wine 1.9 w/ gallium 9, I get this: wine1.9 : Depends: wine1.9-i386 (= 1:1.9.19-gallium-nine~x)
[16:14] <vlt> Hello. I’m using Ubuntu 16.04. After logging in `ssh-add -l` already lists my key once. Why? I still can’t use it for an ssh connection. When I `ssh-add` it with the passphrase the key is listed twice. Why? But I still can’t use it to connect. A third GUI dialog pops up and asks for the passphrase. Any idea what happens here?
[16:16] <ppf_> arneis: i think the cause might be that systemd isn't running cryptsetup
[16:18] <ppf_> try this: systemctl list-units  | grep crypt
[16:19] <arneis> hmmm it just says "running in chroot, ignoring request."
[16:19] <ppf_> arneis: hm, okay
[16:19] <ppf_> run /lib/systemd/system-generators/systemd-cryptsetup-generator
[16:19] <ppf_> if it let's you
[16:20] <Jfault> I can't get xbacklight to work
[16:20] <Jfault> after upgrading to 16.10
[16:20] <h4yd4r> night
[16:20] <Jfault> everything else on my system is fine but xbacklight won't work
[16:20] <Jfault> it says: No outputs have backlight property
[16:20] <Jfault> help?
[16:21] <arneis> ppf_: ok it ran... no output at all, just dropped straight back to console, so not sure if it did anything or not
[16:21] <ppf_> try and reboot
[16:21] <ppf_> the real system
[16:22] <DexterF> th0r: enp02s5. but ethtool /dev/enp0s25 says: no such device
[16:22] <DexterF> th0r: typo, i got enp0s25 right alright
[16:22] <Jfault> xbacklight is just giving me: No outputs have backlight property after upgrade to 16.10... help?
[16:24] <arneis> ppf_- no joy, same error :(
[16:24] <DexterF> Jfault: patience. stick around a while. take the time to google
[16:24] <Jfault> I tried everything I could find
[16:24] <Jfault> I can write to /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness fine
[16:24] <ppf_> maybe an update-initramfs is needed?
[16:25] <arneis> ppf_- ok I'll give it a try
[16:25] <Xatenev> Heya
[16:25] <DexterF> th0r: works with plain name, no /dev/ ..
[16:25] <Xatenev> how do I remap the "lock system" keys frmo ctrl shift L to ctrl L?
[16:26] <Xatenev> got it
[16:27] <barq> How do I know if memtest completed successfully?
[16:28] <maddawg2> it will say
[16:28] <tomreyn> arneis: have you bind mounted dev + proc + sys in the chroot you're working on?
[16:28] <lhx> How do I get krita / calligra back on 16.10? It was working fine on 16.04 now it's just *gone* with no packages in the repos...
[16:30] <Lopa> did anyone have installed arc-theme in ubuntu 16.10?
[16:32] <arneis> tomreyn: yes
[16:32] <Jfault> Lopa: you can do it from source
[16:32] <ppf_> arneis: any luck?
[16:32] <Jfault> doesn't look like the deb repo has been updated though
 thanks, it's in universal repo so I thought it have proper support for 16.10
[16:34] <arneis> ppf_ haven't tried rebooting yet... but I've noticed that systemd-generator dumped some files in /tmp
[16:34] <arneis> are they meant to get into the initramfs somehow?
[16:35] <ppf_> it basicly converts crypttab into systemd units
[16:35] <lgstate> is sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer broken? I'm getting something about not being able to drop priviledtges as user '_apt'
[16:35] <Jfault> Lopa: it's not hard to install latest git from source anyways
[16:35] <Jfault> very small compile time
[16:35] <Jfault> check the github repo
[16:35] <Lopa> how do you guys mention others "@username" doesn't work
[16:35] <ppf_> arneis: don't know, initramfs was a guess
[16:35] <ppf_> :)
[16:35] <arneis> ppf_ ok rebooting now, fingers crossed
[16:35] <Lopa> @jfault ya, I'm doing that now
[16:37] <arneis> ppf_: nope, still same error :(
[16:37] <ppf_> darn :)
[16:38] <ppf_> i gotta go cook, i'll look back into this later if it's not solved
[16:38] <ppf_> tomreyn: your turn
[16:38] <arneis> ppf_- ok, thanks for your help!
[16:40] <tomreyn> ppf_: which partition is your /boot
[16:40] <tomreyn>  /dev/sdc1 ?
[16:40] <lhx> Am I just invisble? Does noone know what happened to the kria / calligra packages in 16.10?
[16:40] <lhx> *krita
[16:41] <tomreyn> !patience lhx
[16:41] <k1l> krita changed from the caligra team to the kde team and seems like they dont have a maintainer for packages now.
[16:41] <arneis> tomreyn: yes
[16:41] <tomreyn> arneis: do you have a software raid there?
[16:42] <Lopa> how do you guys mention others? "@username" doesn't work
[16:42] <lhx> k1l: well.... that's shit... I really don't want to switch distros... but krita is a 'really need by next week' thing
[16:42] <tomreyn> Lopa: << just like this
[16:42] <k1l> Lopa: start with the first letters of the nick, then press tabulator key
[16:42] <k1l> lhx: iirc krita provides snap packages
[16:42] <MattV> Hey
[16:43] <tomreyn> arneis: also show the output of: dmsetup ls
[16:43] <Lopa> k1l: got it, thanks
[16:43] <tomreyn> arneis: i got to go again for a while, sorry
[16:43] <MattV> I have Ubuntu 16.10. Chrome keeps crashing. can anyone help with that
[16:43] <MattV> I got a crash dump id too
[16:43] <arneis> tomreyn- there is a zfs software raid but not on the boot drive
[16:43] <arneis> ok
[16:46] <arneis> tomreyn: termbin.com/k7da
[16:48] <Eny> Hey anyone around?
[16:48] <baizon> Eny: hey, yes
[16:49] <Eny> Any chance i could get some troobleshooting for a lubuntu install? Im a complete noob
[16:49] <TikityTik> Why do I not have a man page for "pthread_mutex_lock"?
[16:49] <baizon> Eny: whats the problem?
[16:49] <DexterF> Eny: noob advice: on irc chat dont ask if you can ask or ask "can someone help?", describe your problem and wait :)
[16:50] <baizon> !ask | Eny
[16:51] <MattV> I am running Ubuntu 16.10. Chrome crashes after about ten minutes with a crash dump id: 5b0215db00000000. Anyone know why? This is a new install of ubuntu
[16:51] <DexterF> oh yes, forgot the one line thing and "describe what you tried so far". Eny, this is not rookie mangling, with the amount of poeple here we just want to keep things at a certain efficiency.
[16:51] <baizon> MattV: check a different browser?
[16:52] <Jfault> baizon: Pretty sure this is chrome specific
[16:52] <MattV> baizon: it seems to just be chrome. Firefox doesn't crash.
[16:52] <Jfault> unless it's an internet error
[16:52] <MattV> bazion: I also tried to reinstall
[16:52] <Jfault> does chromium work?
[16:52] <MattV> I forgot to try that
[16:52] <Jfault> maybe some weird google stuff got in the way
[16:52] <Jfault> go try that
[16:52] <Jfault> sudo apt install chromium-browser
[16:53] <baizon> MattV: ou, sorry im using firefox. Can't help in this matter
[16:53] <Eny> After last update to 4.4.0 -43 system doesnt load. Selecting recovery  ode in grub gives me vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown block 0,0.  With caps lock and scroll lock blinking. Previous version 4.4.0 -36 loads properly
[16:53] <MattV> Yeah getting it now. I will report whether it chrashes or not bazion and Jfault
[16:53] <MattV> bazion: oh ok thanks anyway
[16:54] <Jfault> why use chrome anyways?
[16:55] <MattV> I use chrome when I do my school work. I have always used it so everything is saved and connected to my google account when I login.
[16:55] <MattV> I am slowly transitioning back to firefox though
[16:55] <ace_me_> I did run rkhunter on a VPS and this alert me that on sshd The file properties have changed. How can I find if the file has the supposed size of ubuntu repo or it was changed by a intrusion ?
[16:55] <baizon> ace_me_: which file is it?
[16:56] <baizon> ace_me_: also files changes when they get an update. rkhunter doesnt detect that
[16:56] <DexterF> Eny: while there probably is an interesitng amount of debug data behind this, if you just want your system usabel stick to the former version. is that a testing kernel or nightly build or anything like this or the stable kernel?
[16:56] <Eny> Stable kernel.
[16:57] <DexterF> Eny: 16.10?
[16:57] <lordcirth> ace_me_, run debsums to check if the file matches packages
[16:57] <ace_me_> ok thx
[16:58] <ace_me_> debsums command not found lordcirth
[16:58] <baizon> !info debsums | ace_me_
[16:59] <Eny> It is lubuntu with all updates. Its 16.04.1 lts
[16:59] <ace_me_> debsums | grep warning maybe... ?
[16:59] <ace_me_> long list
[17:00] <matej_> pastebin
[17:00] <DexterF> Eny: other people report similar issues. could be a tear in the updates. from the working kernel try sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade, should bring you 4.4.0-43.63
[17:00] <lordcirth> ace_me_, debsums -c
[17:00] <lordcirth> It's all in the man pag
[17:00] <lordcirth> page*
[17:00] <DexterF> Eny: possibly even bit higher, there was a kernelupdate just yesterday
[17:01] <MattV> Jfault: I think its a sign that I just should quit chrome completely
[17:01] <ace_me_> should debsums: no md5sums for sysklogd worry me lordcirth ?
[17:02] <DexterF> MattV: vivaldi does a great job for me
[17:02] <ace_me_> no md5sums for binutils and for klogd
[17:02] <ace_me_> g++ php5
[17:02] <matej_> MattV try chromium-browser .. but under linux distros - firefox is the best way :)
[17:03] <lordcirth> ace_me_, try adding -g
[17:03] <MattV> matej_: I just tried chromium. It crashed too.
[17:03] <MattV> It is probably an underlying problem when I installed ubuntu
[17:03] <matej_> MattV what ubuntu you have? and architecture (64 or 32)?
[17:04] <ace_me_> now outputs debsums: no md5sums for binutils and no deb available lordcirth
[17:04] <MattV> matej_ 64
[17:04] <MattV> DexterF: That is a nice looking browser. Can it sync settings across computers?
[17:04] <matej_> MattV, and version?
[17:04] <MattV> matej_ 16.10
[17:04] <ace_me_> http://pastebin.com/ayhheCrJ
[17:04] <ace_me_> not usre if is looking too bad lordcirth
[17:04] <winsen> Hi all, I 'd like to reinstall complete Grub. I have the following error message"Partition 4 does not start on physical sector boundary.Partition table entries are not in disk order": https://paste.debian.net/880934/, does anyone know what does that mean and how to fix it? thanks
[17:05] <lordcirth> ace_me_, perhaps you should use apt to get the deb, then.  read 'man debsums' already
[17:05] <Lopa> only reason I have chromium installed is because of postman rest client, otherwise firefox is way much better i think
[17:05] <DexterF> MattV: thats the one thing it *cant* do right now :) its chrome under the bonnett btw, but has all the  opera usability
[17:05] <DexterF> so opera usability + chromium compat. you have issues with chrome, though?
[17:07] <winsen> any clue guys?
[17:07] <Eny> Dexter f worked like a charm, thank you
[17:07] <MattV> DexterF: I will give it a try. It looks wonderful.
[17:12] <dixie7z> this irc has many users so i came here. i have xubuntu. i have camera input: VF0380 Live! Cam Optia Pro and Skype and Cheese find the camera but there is only black screen
[17:12] <dixie7z> do i need some codes or anything?
[17:12] <dixie7z> codecs*
[17:14] <DexterF> Eny: yay. you're welcome.
[17:16] <ygvghv> freenode.net
[17:16] <ygvghv> http://optilan.eu/ ela v chatcheto ima pone realni hora !
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[17:17] <jali_316> 	Hi Dear
[17:17] <jali_316> 	when I use microphne for ex, telegram there is noise
[17:17] <jali_316> 	Do you have any solution
[17:18] <jali_316> 	thanks
[17:19] <DexterF> jali_316: check the mixer for open inputs cranked to 100% or near. line in, cd aux or such. how do you do italics in irc?
[17:21] <phenom> Guys: Regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fstrim/+bug/1449005
[17:22] <phenom> I have an 840 evo, that I believe is affected by this. I have not updated the firmware, but I'm wondering if the issue has been fixed so I can do so. This is the most confusing bug tracker I've seen and am wondering if again, I can update the firmware with samsungs "magician software" without fear of the million bad comments within that thread happening.
[17:23] <phenom> Is there anyone that can layman-ize that bug report for me?
[17:24] <tomreyn> arneis: in /etc/fstab, replace "/dev/mapper/cabernet--vg-root" by "UUID=3a7e615d-96b7-42b9-85c2-9ab9ee7c80dc"
[17:24] <tomreyn> no quotation marks
[17:25] <zergut> hello
[17:25] <zergut> is there still an issue with connecting modems via usb
[17:25] <zergut> or it's already fixed?
[17:25] <niko> hi
[17:25] <DexterF> phenom: I suggest backing up the entire ssd. dual boot or is there a magician for linux meanwhile?
[17:26] <tomreyn> arneis: is http://termbin.com/1tk9 your /etc/crypttab? it does not seem to match to the rewst of the system
[17:26] <phenom> there is a magician for linux but it was removed from samsungs firmware download page, i believe because of this.
[17:26] <phenom> I have the older version
[17:27] <phenom> Instead of samsung fixing the problem, I believe they just removed the tool that "upgrades" the SSD and break linux functionality.
[17:27] <arneis> tomreyn- yes it is
[17:27] <DexterF> phenom: one of the reasons i dont buy samsungs anymore
[17:28] <phenom> Nor will I.
[17:28] <Mal__> hello
[17:28] <DexterF> at least they don't explode :D
[17:28] <jali_316> DexterF,I set zero boost mic but atuomaticly rise up.about your question I use chatzilla
[17:28] <DexterF> hello Mal__
[17:29] <Mal__> DexterF: Hi Dexter
[17:29] <phenom> For the past week, I've been spinning wheels trying to figure out a bug that makes my computer hang afer a few hours of running memory intensive applications.
[17:29] <DexterF> jali_316: usb mic or analog on sound card?
[17:29] <Mal__> phenom: might be a memory issue
[17:30] <phenom> I've added a trim command to my rc.local and it seems to have helped. Might be placebo.
[17:30] <jali_316> analog on sound card
[17:30] <phenom> Mal__, I ran a memory test on it for 6 hours.
[17:30] <DexterF> phenom: did it work before? could be related to the ssd issues, really
[17:30] <Mal__> phenom: i had the same problem before and computer wasn't detecting all the memory on sys
[17:30] <jr3> anyone successfully install mongo 3.2 on ubuntu 16.04 seems like the mongo docs are missing something
[17:31] <phenom> DexterF, 14.04 worked great and I haven't touched my SSD firmware since the update.
[17:31] <DexterF> jali_316: and if you record to, say, audacity you dont have the problem?
[17:31] <Mal__> phenom: I just enabled the Map arround memory hole in bios and all is good now
[17:31] <DexterF> phenom: then upgraded to 16.04?
[17:31] <Mal__> Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[17:31] <phenom> But I hacked up trim commands even using discard IIRC, which if I were to use that after i were to upgrade, that would prevent the system from even booting.
[17:32] <phenom> Mal__, I'll double check that.
[17:32] <phenom> DexterF, Sorry, yes. Upgraded to 16.04 and it will freeze, mouse and all, if left running to it's own devices.
[17:33] <Mal__> phenom: did you upgrade to 16.04.1
[17:33] <arneis> tomreyn- ok rebooting now to see if it's fixed it
[17:33] <DexterF> phenom: havent got anything sounder than what Mal__ says.
[17:33] <Mal__> its a long shot
[17:34] <Mal__> could hurt your computer might say it doesn't need to map arround memory hole if so you can just disable again
[17:34] <phenom> I'm trying to think what makes my system unique. I have a thinkpad (which every dev in the world uses, * facetiousness *), but I have also upgraded to the 840 ssd EVO.
[17:34] <jali_316> yes sir in audacity there is noise reduction but I realy need use other application such as telegram
[17:34] <arneis> tomreyn- no joy... I think maybe LUKS isn't starting so it can't find the volume group because it's still encrypted?
[17:34] <DexterF> phenom: what TP model?
[17:36] <DexterF> jali_316: the question is: who rises up noise when using telegram then. it sounds more like an issue with telegram itsefl than with the mic or card.
[17:36] <phenom> DexterF, x220
[17:36] <DexterF> jali_316: *all* programs ike telegram behave like that?
[17:36] <Mal__> Ive heard alot of people having problems with SSD's
[17:37] <DexterF> phenom: hmm. ultra low voltage cpu like i5 2537m?
[17:38] <jr3> im running an 840 evo right now on 16.04
[17:38] <DexterF> toshi ssd on t61wide right on my desk, seems fine so far
[17:38] <phenom> free -mt depicts: Mem:           7866        1772        4953         487        1139        5318
[17:38] <phenom> Swap:          8075           0        8075
[17:38] <phenom> Total:        15941        1772       13029
[17:38] <tomreyn> arneis: still looking for help?
[17:38] <jali_316> no sir without using telegram my microphne volume rise up .capture volume alsamixer
[17:38] <jali_316> I rise it down but it rises up again
[17:39] <phenom> DexterF, That I couldn't tell you.
[17:39] <phenom> I have the i7 version
[17:39] <Mal__> hows it doing now
[17:39] <DexterF> phenom: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[17:40] <tomreyn> arneis: oh i just relaized you tried to tell me something. please use "tomreyn:", not "tomreyn-" to address me
[17:40] <phenom> DexterF, What would be be looking for? model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz
[17:41] <DexterF> phenom: the only cpu with vpro in the x220. very long shot but if you dont need it i'd disable it in bios if possible
[17:41] <monolith> Hey, I'm looking for help with accessing an Apple Time Machine backup from Linux.  I've tried the step listed here https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2193764 and other places, but my backup looks very different.
[17:42] <monolith> I think that Apple Updated its storage system.  Instead of having a directory with the files, I only have 1 directory called bands, filled with system files.
[17:42] <phenom> DexterF, I appreciate you digging that up for me.
[17:42] <phenom> Good info.
[17:43] <tomreyn> arneis: what is /sbin/usb_keymaster ?
[17:44] <arneis> it's a script on the usb drive to avoid having to manually type in password to decrypt the volumes
[17:44] <arneis> the usb drive acts as the key
[17:45] <themusicgod1> upon upgrade to yakkety, my kern.log and syslog files are filling up with "Activated service 'ca.desrt.dconf' failed" log lines
[17:45] <arneis> tomreyn: I don't think it's even trying to execute it though
[17:45] <DexterF> jali_316: out of ideas, really, other than looking in telegram (and the others) if one can use "software mixing", it looks like your programs directly manipulate the sound card registers.
[17:45] <tomreyn> arneis: that's a bit of a non standard configuration, it would have been nice to discuss this.
[17:45] <themusicgod1> MB upon MB of these lines.  what is the next step to troubleshoot this?  google is giving nothing
[17:46] <Mal__> phenom: well something unique when i looked up Thinkpad x220 says it comes stock with i5 and your running i7 :)
[17:46] <arneis> tomreyn: http://www.cheshirekow.com/wordpress/?p=810
[17:46] <tomreyn> arneis: and such things tend to break when you upgrade.
[17:46] <themusicgod1> ( http://pastebin.com/muY49LKb )
[17:46] <DexterF> Mal__: comes in a range of configs, from celeron to i7
[17:46] <arneis> tomreyn: I'm wishing I hadn't bothered with encryption at all at this point!
[17:47] <phenom> Mal__, Yea, it was a upgrade.
[17:47] <phenom> I'd have rather had the i but only i7 had an USB3 port.
[17:47] <phenom> had the i5*
[17:47] <tomreyn> arneis: here's the configurations you posted so far, summed up, and ordered: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23334941/
[17:47] <Mal__> oh lol
[17:47] <DexterF> the heck is this... live on t61wide wont connect to my router neither via ethernet not wifi. tries to connect, disconnects again. guess its the router rather.
[17:48] <monolith> Bump
[17:48] <Mal__> i7 seemed the way to go for Ubuntu 16.04
[17:48] <monolith> Sorry to be spammy, but old questions in a busy channel usually are los
[17:48] <monolith> *lost
[17:48] <Mal__> i'm a gamer too and i was think of perfect config
[17:48] <tomreyn> arneis: the lvmetad message during boot is not an issue, i got the same on 16.04.1 and it still boots fine (also got dm-crypt here)
[17:49] <DexterF> monolith: understandable, but someone posting "bump" doesnt make me for one go back through all the backlog... quick one-liner?
[17:49] <monolith> Sure
[17:49] <monolith> Trying to restore time machine backups
[17:49] <Mal__> i thought well it would be steam os on 12.04 with i7 and like 4 GB memory
[17:49] <monolith> But all I can find refers to a backup format that was probably replaced
[17:50] <Mal__> and Nvidia graphics card
[17:50] <DexterF> monolith: time machine..? isn't that Apple..?
[17:50] <phenom> I'm scared if I update the ssd, I won't be able to go back to 14.04 if I can't figure this out. At least without more headaches.
[17:50] <monolith> Yeah
[17:50] <i11igalCode> scp gives me permission denied -> ssh key is located in root directory, how do i change it to /home/user/ ?
[17:50] <monolith> Sorry to use a stupid naming convention
[17:50] <phenom> Speaking of headaches: Got one.
[17:50] <jali_316> if it manipulates my sound card register how can I disable it.thanks
[17:50] <MrR00k> asd
[17:50] <phenom> Gotta go eat, thanks DexterF Mal__ .
[17:50] <Mal__> talk to you later
[17:51] <monolith> This page https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2193764 and others like it have instructions, but hey refer to a single directory that's in the .backup folder with al of the backup files
[17:51] <DexterF> monolith: and where is the Ubuntu Linux question behind this?
[17:51] <DexterF> monolith: ah ic
[17:51] <monolith> Using ubuntu linux, don't know where I would ask
[17:51] <arneis> tomreyn: ok... I'm at a loss then
[17:52] <monolith> All that I have int he directory, though, is a single folder labeled bands, filled with system files
[17:52] <monolith> So I was wondering whether anyone here knew of a new method of accessing the backups
[17:52] <monolith> Since I doubt that Apple invented whatever system it's currently using
[17:53] <i11igalCode> scp gives me permission denied -> ssh key is located in root directory, how do i change it to /home/user/ ?
[17:53] <DexterF> jali_316: look in the program's settings for sound settings, see if it offers to chose a sound device, maybe there a switch or so. don't know telegram in particular, sorry.
[17:53] <Mal__> apple uses a cloud solution for backups
[17:54] <monolith> Even with physical backup devices?
[17:54] <Mal__> your backups are sent to apples backup servers and stored there
[17:54] <Mal__> not sure if youve configured it some other way
[17:54] <Mal__> thats all i know lol
[17:55] <DexterF> need to cycle my router
[17:55] <monolith> Wow...  What's the point of the device, then?  What is it filled with?
[17:56] <Mal__> right monolith? lol accually keeping all your work in the cloud is a pretty good idea
[17:56] <monolith> Not mine
[17:56] <Mal__> try seeing if you can get backups from theyre backup service
[17:56] <monolith> I'm moving my mom to linux, and I used the time machine she bought as a way to mirgrate her files
[17:57] <tomreyn> arneis: i assume the script you used to use to open the encrypted devices is not compatible with how the initrd stuff now mounts things. probably the parameter to use a key file changed or something. if you can mount everyhting fine in a chroot and can update the initramfs there and make sure /etc/crypttab looks correct,  and maybe the scripts inside the intramfs you generated, too, then it should boot fine.
[17:57] <themusicgod1> I think I got it: moving ~/.config/dconf to a backup location stopped the logs
[17:57] <ktechmidas> having some issues with systemd... I've created a very simple unit file in /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants - how do I get systemd to pick it up?
[17:58] <zergut> how to check if package is available in repos?
[17:59] <themusicgod1> apt-cache policy <packagename>
[17:59] <themusicgod1> ?
[17:59] <tomreyn> arneis: but you have aenough complexity in place there that i don't feel like analyzing this further. i recommend getting paid support if you cannot work it out. or check with your local LUG.
[17:59] <Steve973> Hello.  The desktop download, even though it says to get 16.10, takes you to 16.4.1.  how do I get yakkety?
[18:00] <Mal__> Steve973: You need to download 16.10
[18:00] <Mal__> its just dev preview though i think
[18:00] <arneis> tomreyn: ok thanks for your help
[18:01] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[18:01] <Mal__> wasn't yakety dropped
[18:01] <Mal__> in favor of unity
[18:02] <Steve973> final release was 3 days ago for yakkety according to the wiki.
[18:02] <Mal__> hmm
[18:03] <Steve973> https://www.ubuntu.com/
[18:03] <Steve973> "Ubutntu 16.10 is here
[18:03] <Steve973> "
[18:03] <jali_316> sir I closed telegram then I wrote alsamixer in terminal and selected capture set it 40 went out alsamixer without openig any program it rised
[18:04] <kei> hello
[18:04] <Steve973> I found the link.  it must just not be updated on the download page.
[18:04] <Mal__> Steve973: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop scroll down to second frame is 16.10
[18:04] <ryan__> Anyone here have experience with systemd services?  I wrote one and I'm able to run it manually but I can't get it to run at boot.  It's enabled.
[18:04] <Steve973> Mal__: haha, good point.
[18:05] <Steve973> it'll be fun to try unity 8.
[18:05] <kei> i'w like to know can i formate my usb key in ubuntu os?
[18:05] <Steve973> and a 4.8 kernel.  awesome.
[18:06] <Steve973> I was loving elementaryos, but I don't know if I care about having an LTS install for my laptop.
[18:07] <kei> i get  ubuntu os version 14.02
[18:08] <Mal__> 14.04 is prolly most compatable with games and things like that
[18:08] <Mal__> if your not really attached to HAL go with 16.04.1
[18:09] <varaindemian> idk why but sometimes the raddiance theme gets automatically replaced by the default one after a period of time (after couple of reboots)(Ambiance). The font remains the same. Can someone help?
[18:11] <roland> surabaya
[18:12] <i11iga1Code> ssh tells me that it reads the ssh keys from /root/.ssh/ instead of /home/user/.ssh
[18:12] <i11iga1Code> how can i change that
[18:13] <tomreyn> i11iga1Code: dont run as root
[18:13] <i11iga1Code> ok
[18:13] <i11iga1Code> let me try
[18:15] <ivan> hi, how can I get `apt-get dist-upgrade` on xenial to not try to downgrade packages from a Pin-Priority: 1001 repo endlessly? https://gist.github.com/ivan/548924ff2c78cfffae22e04fa3102fc1
[18:15] <ivan> I think it is confused because the version numbers in both repositories are the same
[18:18] <i11iga1Code> scp: /home/user/znc-1.6.3.tar.gz: Permission denied
[18:18] <i11iga1Code> tomreyn
[18:19] <winsen> hi all, is it possible to  save configuration permanently within ubuntu live USB drive?
[18:20] <ivan> winsen: yeah, there's an option to do with with at least some of the tools for making a live usb drive
[18:20] <SchrodingersScat> !persistence | winsen
[18:20] <SchrodingersScat> that seems less relevant
[18:21] <ivan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[18:21] <tomreyn> i11iga1Code: yes?
[18:21] <i11iga1Code> scp: /home/user/znc-1.6.3.tar.gz: Permission denied
[18:22] <i11iga1Code> and this is the command i am trying to issue: scp -P port /home/user/znc-1.6.3.tar.gz user@ip:/home/user
[18:24] <tomreyn> i11iga1Code: so you are trying to copy a file which you do not have access to. this cannot work. either create a copy of this file (as root) which you do then have access to, or change the files' permissions.
[18:25] <winsen> hi all, is it possible to  save configuration permanently within ubuntu live USB drive?
[18:27] <wwandrew> winsen: i wish it was
[18:27] <i11iga1Code> tomreyn: i have permission for the file
[18:29] <skweek> why does networkmanager keep on crashing!!!!
[18:29] <kei> i want to get the microsoft application like ubuntu version
[18:29] <tomreyn> i11iga1Code: the error message you pasted states the opposite
[18:30] <tomreyn> winsen: you can install ubuntu to your usb drive instead.
[18:30] <kei> please somebody can tell me if there is
[18:30] <tomreyn> kei: i cannot parse your question.
[18:31] <winsen> SchrodingersScat: thanks
[18:31] <skweek> can anyone help me?
[18:31] <winsen> ivan: thanks
[18:31] <votlon> kei: for what?
[18:32] <winsen> tomreyn: it's another option thanks
[18:32] <tomreyn> skweek: not unless you provide a LOT more information.
[18:32] <kei> to use the word application
[18:32] <winsen> thanks all
[18:32] <skweek> can you tell me what to provide tomreyn?
[18:33] <tomreyn> !ask | kei
[18:33] <kei> or powerpoint
[18:33] <DieAMD> hi all. the link for the driver for RX480 is not working http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx
[18:33] <kei> ok
[18:33] <DieAMD> anyone knows where i can download the driver??
[18:34] <votlon> DieAMD: the server runs on windows, its hopeless!
[18:34] <skweek> Im not sure what information you require tomreyn
[18:34] <DieAMD> votlon: lol
[18:34] <skweek> do you know how to fix a problem like this?
[18:34] <skweek> if you don't know where to start then why would you address the problem
[18:34] <tomreyn> skweek: start with he ubuntu version you are using. then state whether it is all updated or not. then post the output of "dmesg" to a pastebin.
[18:34] <tomreyn> !pastebin | Swant
[18:35] <tomreyn> skweek: ^
[18:35] <tomreyn> sorry Swant
[18:35] <DieAMD> but seriously, is there any repository with amd drivers for ubuntu or something?
[18:35] <skweek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23335179/ it is the most current and up to date version of 16.04
[18:36] <votlon> DieAMD: gpuopen.com is amd's new opensource site
[18:36] <DieAMD> votlon: thanks
[18:38] <kei> i'm looking for libreofficewriter for my ubuntu os!
[18:38] <SonikkuAmerica> kei: [ sudo apt install libreoffice ]
[18:39] <kei> ok tanks
[18:39] <SonikkuAmerica> kei: If it's "already the newest version", try searching "writer" in the Unity dash
[18:39] <votlon> SonikkuAmerica: 'apt-get install' ?
[18:39] <baizon> votlon: since 16.04 u can use apt
[18:39] <skweek> tomreyn: I dont really see any explanation there
[18:40] <SonikkuAmerica> votlon: apt-get still exists, but "apt" is a script that merges of many common APT commands.
[18:40] <Guest8> I have installed golang-1.7 using apt-get, when I call "go" it says "The program 'go' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[18:40] <Guest8> sudo apt install golang-go" (which is golang 1.6)... how does this work? :(
[18:40] <kei> ok
[18:40] <tomreyn> skweek: me neither, network-manager does not seem to be vrashing. what makes you think it does?
[18:40] <votlon> SonikkuAmerica: is it bash an bash alias or actually built in now?
[18:40]  * Swant accepts apology tomreyn :)
[18:40] <skweek> tomreyn: it's been a few weeks since its been happening and after trying to find out why online and not finding anything i've been killing networkmanager processess and restarting network manager
[18:40] <votlon> is it a bash alias* xD
[18:40] <votlon> yay grammar
[18:40] <tomreyn> \o/
[18:40] <baizon> Guest8: install golang-1.7-go
[18:41] <Guest8> baizon: it is included in golang-1.7, I have tried, says it's already installed
[18:41] <jr3> so........ installing .debs doesn't even work on 16.04?
[18:41] <baizon> !root
[18:41] <jr3> what kinda fuck up is that
[18:41] <tomreyn> skweek: you also want to fix your file system on your MMC: [ 2689.390473] FAT-fs (mmcblk0p1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.
[18:41] <baizon> jr3: you can install debs
[18:42] <votlon> jr3: did you try 'dpkg -i something.deb' ?
[18:42] <skweek> tomreyn: how would I?
[18:42] <SonikkuAmerica> jr3: .deb packages work on Ubuntu, see votlon 's comment above.
[18:42] <jr3> I have yet to be able to do it, sure did then I run apt-get -f install and it shits unmet dependecies
[18:42] <baizon> jr3: your language please
[18:42] <SonikkuAmerica> votlon - see this /r/linux post by "chrisb8": https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/26q2sm/apt_vs_aptget/
[18:43] <votlon> SonikkuAmerica: ty
[18:43] <zergut> trying to customize livecd
[18:43] <tomreyn> skweek: sudo fsck /dev/mmcblk0p1
[18:43] <zergut> using ubuntu customization kit
[18:43] <zergut> have got error: Failed to merge X authorization file, error=126
[18:43] <zergut> dont know what to do
[18:43] <jr3> votlon I had to add amd64 architecture first
[18:44] <jr3> I still get issues with not resolving dependecies
[18:44] <jr3> Tried install GDebi from software center but the install button is bugged out.
[18:45] <votlon> so what are you trying to install?
[18:45] <jr3> google chrome, atom ide
[18:46] <SonikkuAmerica> jr3: try [ sudo apt -f install ] from the terminal
[18:46] <SonikkuAmerica> That will most certainly resolve Google Chrome's complaints.
[18:46] <SonikkuAmerica> Not sure about Atom IDE
[18:47] <skweek> tomreyn: thanks, I think that networkmanager crashes... because the wireless connection disconnects, there aren't any listed networks in the networkmanager gui, and killing and restarting processes ids that show up with ps aux | grep networkmanager and restarting the networkmanager reconnects to the wireless network
[18:47] <jr3> SonikkuAmerica: do you know how to clear held packages
[18:48] <SonikkuAmerica> jr3: [ sudo apt -f install ] will clear the held packages for you.
[18:48] <jr3> apt -f install is erroring with unmet dependecis from atom ide
[18:48] <jr3> im kinda stuck
[18:49] <tomreyn> skweek: maybe it's just the graphical interface which crashes. or the connection just fails? take a look at ~/.xession-errors, see if you find anything regarding network manager.
[18:49] <tomreyn> skweek: i'll need to leave it there, got to go.
[18:50] <younder> SonikkuAmerica, did you 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/atom' .. update .. install atom
[18:50] <votlon> younder: shouldn't need to, he is installing from .deb
[18:50] <SonikkuAmerica> What can I say? You can't be guaranteed that packages installed from PPAs will work.
[18:50] <SonikkuAmerica> !ppa | jr3 - younder
[18:51] <younder> Well that workd for me. And that solves the dependecy issues
[18:51] <jr3> @SonikkuAmerica https://gist.github.com/jreeter/9dc5d5881c4569428dcd3eec2bf889d4
[18:52] <jr3> I downloaded the .deb straight from the atom website no pm
[18:53] <SonikkuAmerica> jr3: I know for a fact that libgcrypt11 is deprecated, at least
[18:53] <muh2000> hi all
[18:54] <baizon> jr3: use this instead of downloading deb files https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/atom
[18:54] <muh2000> mumble & pulseaudio broke in 16.10 (yakkety)
[18:55] <votlon> jr3: but since ur having issues with atom try brackets ;)
[18:55] <SonikkuAmerica> muh2000: Release upgrade from 16.04.x?
[18:56] <muh2000> SonikkuAmerica: yes
[18:56] <SonikkuAmerica> muh2000: Did you, after upgrading to 16.10, run [ sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade ]?
[18:56] <muh2000> well pulseaudio itself works.  mumble cannot output to pulseaudio anymore
[18:57] <muh2000> SonikkuAmerica: only thing that is offered is autoremove...
[18:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Other than that, it threw 0,0,0,0?
[18:58] <muh2000>  »apt autoremove«,
[18:58] <SonikkuAmerica> muh2000: ^ if above, purge and reinstall Mumble
[18:58] <jeffrey_f> I have a usb disk that mounts under /media/<myuser>/DiskName.  Right now it is mounted under /media/<otheruser>/DiskName.  How do I unmount it and put it back under my user??
[18:59] <EriC^^> jeffrey_f: sudo umount /media/...
[18:59] <V7> Correct me if I tell you the wrong thing ... Is the Debian Standard iso the easiest os of linux which includes dd ?
[19:00] <muh2000> SonikkuAmerica:    no success purging...
[19:04] <ryan-c> ubuntu 16.04 doesn't seem to support the 'vim' command, what's going on?
[19:04] <vbgunz> ryan install vim?
[19:04] <V7> I'm about LOW WEIGHT ))
[19:04] <vbgunz> vim doesn't come in by default
[19:04] <V7> vbgunz: bad one :(
[19:05] <kisb> sudo apt install vim
[19:05] <ryan-c> vim is not an installable package
[19:05] <vbgunz> ryan-c: apt-cache search vim
[19:05] <vbgunz> try that and see what comes back
[19:05] <ryan-c> "Package vim is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[19:06] <V7> ryan-c: Which package ?
[19:06] <ryan-c> vim
[19:06] <baizon> !info vim
[19:06] <kisb> really?
[19:06] <ryan-c> apt-cache search vim shows 'vim-tiny' 'vim-common' and 'vim-haproxy'
[19:07] <ioria> ryan-c, apt-cache policy vim
[19:07] <V7> ryan-c: I'm about which package it suggests you
[19:07] <ryan-c> apt-cache policy vim: vim: Installed: (none) Candidate: (none)
[19:08] <ioria> odd
[19:08] <ryan-c> this is a fresh install of 16.04.1 server
[19:08] <kisb> maybe in your system the repos are messed up ryan-c
[19:08] <ioria> ryan-c, can you paste it ?
[19:08] <ryan-c> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23335347/
[19:09] <ryan-c> yeah, so it looks like I only have the security repos enabled
[19:09] <jeffrey_f> Thanks EriC^^
[19:09] <ryan-c> what the hell?
[19:09] <EriC^^> jeffrey_f: no problem
[19:09] <ioria> ryan-c,   cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:10] <ryan-c> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23335353/ < yes, i know that this is totally broken.
[19:10] <ryan-c> anyone have what's supposed to be there?
[19:11] <ioria> ryan-c,   cat /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
[19:11] <jeffrey_f> EriC^^: How would I make it so that this particular disk is only mounted under a cerain folder?
[19:12] <ryan-c> Have no idea how the hell that happened
[19:12] <Seveas> ryan-c: https://dpaste.de/cMcO
[19:12] <EriC^^> jeffrey_f: you can add it to /etc/fstab or use gvfs-mount (the mounting that the file manager uses) in a startup app
[19:13] <vbgunz> fellas, I have a wireless card that a long time ago worked perfectly. now it's so slow, it reminds me of a 56k modem. it's a pain to work with it directly and it's dreaful over SSH. This is what lspci shows for it "Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3062 Wireless 802.11n 2T/2R" ... this used to be amazingly fast, now it's poop :(
[19:13] <ryan-c> so strange, this is about the eleventy-billionth time I've installed ubuntu
[19:13] <jeffrey_f> Thanks.  EriC^^
[19:13] <EriC^^> np
[19:13] <V7> EriC^^: guru
[19:13] <ryan-c> ... is someone ddosing the security repo? It's super slow.
[19:13] <EriC^^> xD
[19:14] <ioria> ryan-c,   maybe it's better you replace your sources.list
[19:14] <ryan-c> I fixed it
[19:14] <ioria> ryan-c,   ok
[19:14] <ryan-c> stuff was just downloading really slow from the security repo
[19:15] <ryan-c> ctrl-c'd and re-ran and now it's still slow, but at least reasonable
[19:17] <ryan__> anyone know why a systemd service can run manually but not automatically at boot.  it's already enabled.
[19:17] <ryan__> I don't see anything about it in journalctl
[19:17] <ryan-c> maybe my isp is crapping itself
[19:20] <freddish> My system crashed again, where can i see what went wrong.
[19:20] <ryan-c> my isp is definitely crapping itself
[19:20] <lordcirth> freddish, /var/log/syslog
[19:20] <freddish> lordcirth, i dont understand annything from that logfile :P
[19:20] <lordcirth> ryan__, usually because a dependency wasn't working
[19:21] <dreais_> hi
[19:21] <ryan__> lordcirth, thanks.  I didn't think about it, but I have a mysql dependency that's probably the problem
[19:21] <dreais_> is there someone good with raspberry pi ?
[19:22] <dreais_> and raspbian
[19:22] <lordcirth> dreais_, this is #ubuntu
[19:22] <dreais_> heh
[19:22] <bekks> dreais_: The guys and girls in #raspbian, yes :)
[19:22] <dreais_> is there a channel raspbian ?
[19:22] <dreais_> didnt know
[19:22] <freddish> lordcirth, is there anywhere else i can look? so i might understand something ?
[19:22] <bekks> !alis | dreais_
[19:23] -cheeeeeeeeeeeese:#ubuntu- i like #cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese
[19:23] <dreais_> ty
[19:24] <V7> wow
[19:24] <V7> What was that ?
[19:25] <ryan-c> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23335412/ < anyone know how to fix that?
[19:25] <lordcirth> ryan-c, apt -f install vim
[19:25] <ryan-c> lordcirth: does not work
[19:26] <ryan-c> same error message
[19:26] <lordcirth> ryan-c, can you update?
[19:26] <ryan-c> as in `apt-get update`? I just did.
[19:27] <lordcirth> ryan-c, as in apt-get upgrade
[19:27] <ryan-c> i also just did that
[19:27] <lordcirth> ryan-c, did it work?
[19:27] <ryan-c> no
[19:27] <ryan-c> nothing to upgrade
[19:28] <AlexanderMP> have you tried `apt-get install vim-common`?
[19:28] <ryan-c> yes, it tells me i already have the latest version
[19:29] <AlexanderMP> are you using 16.04 or have you upgraded to 16.10?
[19:29] <ryan-c> 16.04.1
[19:29] <ryan-c> it's a server
[19:29] <Flannel> ryan-c: can you please pastebin the output of `apt-cache policy vim vim-common vim-runtime`
[19:29] <ryan-c> I'm pretty sure the issue is that I need to add a repo for updates
[19:30] <bekks> ryan-c: Why are you unconfident with the version in the repos which is already installed?
[19:30] <kisb> yes you do that Mr ryan-c
[19:30] <cheeeeeeeeeeeese> ryan-c: its easy to fix.  Open your CD drive, insert a slice of cheeeeeeeeese, and then run the command lordcirth said.
[19:31] <yura> Hello World!
[19:31] <Guest7018> Hello World!
[19:31] <ryan-c> yeah, i just added a xenial-updates source to /etc/apt/sources.list and now things seem to be behaving
[19:35] <lemon_> hi all
[19:37] <k0d3g3ar> i love linux
[19:39] <theShirbiny> k0d3g3ar, I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
[19:47] <vbgunz> when I said slow internet, i'm not kidding http://imgur.com/a/y40qd
[19:48] <neredsenvy> Has HiDPI support been fixed yet in the latest version ?
[19:48] <UrsaTempest> Hmm. I'm not entirely certain where to put this, but Clementine changed language to Malay, and it refused to change back to English after I changed the Region to US and top preferred language is English. Any idea how to fix this?
[19:49] <vbgunz> does anyone have a clue as to why it's so slow? about 2 years back, this was an 80Mbps down card. I was ridiculously impressed by it. For a while now, it's just a horrible experience. Anyone have an idea?
[19:50] <theShirbiny> vbgunz, only on ubuntu?
[19:52] <vbgunz> about 2 years back I think I was on Fedora 21-22 on that machine and wifi was amazing. I passed that machine onto my kid and nothing but wifi problems for the longest time. today I just realized how slow it is, holy cow. Ubuntu on that machine is as old as 16.04 is.
[19:54] <OverCoder> What's a good code editor?
[19:54] <AlexanderMP> Atom
[19:54] <vbgunz> depends on the code
[19:54] <OverCoder> Sublime Text is nice but it doesn't really go great with multiple files in multiple folders and stuff
[19:54] <OverCoder> hm
[19:54]  * OverCoder installs Atom
[19:54] <OverCoder> vbgunz: PHP
[19:54] <OverCoder> including HTML and CSS
[19:54] <kk4ewt> bluefish
[19:55] <OerHeks> !ide
[19:55] <theShirbiny> vbgunz, Can you boot from any other live distro and make sure it's an ubuntu problem? you also can run dmesg and connect/disconnect and look for any errors
[19:55] <SchrodingersScat> !info nano
[19:55] <AlexanderMP> OverCoder: actually Submile is excellent with multiple files and stuff. You just need to learn the key combinations to navigate efficiently
[19:55] <k0d3g3ar> :OverCoder:  Try Netbeans.  I use it all the time for PHP work
[19:56] <AlexanderMP> its limitations are where you want code analysis
[19:56] <k0d3g3ar> OverCoder:  just make sure you install xDebug so you can trace debug or work
[19:56] <OverCoder> hm, thanks all
[19:56] <AlexanderMP> and if you get there, nothing beats what JetBrains are doing, but it can be expensive
[19:56] <OverCoder> k0d3g3ar: yeah I installed xdebug already
[19:56] <OverCoder> AlexanderMP: though I've been using Sublime Text for 2 years :p
[19:56] <OverCoder> It's just cumbersome
[19:56] <AlexanderMP> oh. Then PhpStorm I guess
[19:56] <k0d3g3ar> OverCooder:  Then make sure your editor supports it.  Either Eclipse or Netbeans will
[19:56] <OverCoder> Yeah PHPStorm is certainly the best hting ever, but eh, paid
[19:57] <OverCoder> I don't like both
[19:57] <OverCoder> They're so heavy
[19:57] <OverCoder> I just saw Atom, I think it's pretty good
[19:57] <k0d3g3ar> OverCoder:  yes, but that's why they are heavy.  All the extra bits that you start to rely on
[19:57] <OverCoder> ikr
[19:57] <OverCoder> but meh, I still refuse
[19:57] <OverCoder> I am happy with something simple
[19:58] <k0d3g3ar> then vim
[19:58] <vbgunz> theShirbiny: thats an idea
[19:59] <ppf_> arneis: did you figure it out?
[19:59] <OverCoder> ew vim
[19:59] <OverCoder> It's only useful when you're in SSH
[19:59] <AlexanderMP> ikr
[19:59] <lordcirth> vim is a pretty solid IDE
[20:00] <ppf_> please let's not go there
[20:00] <lordcirth> But it only does so much, within tons of plugins anyway
[20:00] <lordcirth> without* but yeah this is offtopic
[20:00] <OverCoder> It isn't offtopic
[20:00] <OverCoder> It's discussing coding in Ubuntu
[20:02] <ppf_> OverCoder: i don't care too muchabout on-topicness really, but the vim/emacs war is tedious :)
[20:02] <ppf_> questions like 'what's the best tool for X' are also really boring. they're all good, just pick one :)
[20:03] <lordcirth> Indeed it is
[20:03] <OverCoder> ppf_: We're not going war anywhere
[20:03] <AlexanderMP> yeah, can we just all agree that they both suck?
[20:03] <OverCoder> I didn't even bother to discuss farther about vim
[20:03] <OverCoder> AlexanderMP++
[20:03] <Arrick> good afternoon all...
[20:03] <OverCoder> hi Arrick
[20:04] <ppf_> no need to get defensive, it's just a matter of taste, that's all i'm saying
[20:04] <Arrick> I have an HP z200 SFF, with an intel processor... I would like to install the latest ubuntu desktop that will work in the intel platform... after clicking on "download" in the ubuntu.com site, I get an iso named: ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[20:04] <SuperSeriousCat> Non stop vim war here today :p
[20:05] <Arrick> is that the right iso file, or do I need to download another one?
[20:05] <bekks> Arrick: thats the correct one.
[20:05] <Arrick> ok, just making sure... that amd part scared me
[20:05] <AlexanderMP> but just FYI, there's already 16.10
[20:05] <\9> Arrick: "amd64" refers to 64-bit architechture. it's named after amd since they came up with it
[20:05] <bekks> Arrick: the 64bit technology used by Intel is licensed from AMD.
[20:05] <lordcirth> Arrick, amd64 just means x86 arch, 64bit.  AMD invented it.  Intel uses it too
[20:05] <ppf_> and intel is still pissed about that :d
[20:06] <Arrick> ok
[20:06] <lordcirth> Im sure they are
[20:06] <Arrick> ok... is 16.10 stable?
[20:06] <\9> 16.10 is the latest stable, yes
[20:06] <Arrick> why doesnt the site have that as the default then?
[20:06] <\9> 16.04 is LTS and probably more stable than 16.10
[20:06] <bekks> Arrick: But keep in mind that 16.04 is a LTS version receiving support for 5 years, while the support for 16.10 ends in 9 months.
[20:07] <AlexanderMP> I'm on it right now. Works pretty well, aside from it forcing me to use Ubuntu SSO when installing some apps from the software center
[20:07] <Arrick> you go https://www.ubuntu.com/download and click download, it has
[20:07] <Arrick> sorry
[20:07] <Arrick> thanks, I would rather have the LTS than cutting edge, lol
[20:07] <\9> it isn't cutting edge, per se
[20:07] <lordcirth> Arrick, if you want to install and just use it, 16.04.  If you want to keep updating, you use 16.10
[20:07] <lordcirth> Personally I use LTS for everything
[20:08] <Arrick> thats what i dont want to do, I'm setting it up for my 5 year old daughter and her "learning stuff"
[20:08] <\9> then you'll probably want the LTS
[20:08] <AlexanderMP> yep, LTS, maybe Edubuntu if that's still a thing
[20:09] <Arrick> no, not a fan of edubuntu itself
[20:09] <Arrick> the kindergarden class has online "jump start" and a few others, etvc
[20:11] <Arrick> FYI, Im blowing away windows 10, lol
[20:11] <lordcirth> Arrick, you could optionally consider installing using btrfs so you can snapshot and un-break things.
[20:11] <Arrick> whats that?
[20:11] <colby> hey guys, wondering if I could get a little help with installing ubuntu on a particular machine. Been at it for like 7 hours to no avail :/
[20:11] <ppf_> it's an advanced filesystem
[20:11] <Arrick> ahh
[20:11] <ppf_> Arrick: ^
[20:11] <AlexanderMP> or dual boot, just so you don't lose the Windows license
[20:12] <lordcirth> Arrick, a filesystem that lets you take snapshots and roll back to them, among other things
[20:12] <Arrick> nah, I have an image of the os
[20:12] <ppf_> colby: sure, what's the issue
[20:12] <lordcirth> Arrick, excellent, was about to suggest imaging windows somewhere
[20:12] <colby> Trying to get ubuntu to replace windows 8 on an acer inspire v5, but no matter what I do It will not detect the usb in the boot menu
[20:12] <Arrick> yeah, I've been down this road lol...
[20:12] <ppf_> Arrick: with btrfs you can undo any changes on disk unto a certain point in time
[20:12] <colby> I have disabled and enabled secure boot. tried euif and legacy, I have tried universal usb and ubutin or what ever that other one is.
[20:13] <colby> And no matter what it will not detect it.
[20:13] <AlexanderMP> colby: how did you create the flash drive?
[20:13] <lordcirth> Arrick, ppf_, assuming, of course, that you don't totally break the filesystem :P
[20:13] <bekks> colby: Can you get into the bios of that thing?
[20:14] <AlexanderMP> because I had the exact same problem today when I used LiLi on Windows to do that. Worked fine when I did it from Ubuntu
[20:14] <Arrick> lord4163_, the last time I install nix on something, the hard drive went bad a few months later... they said my os was the issue, it wasnt made for the device.. LOL
[20:14] <colby> @alax, I have tried universal usb amd unetbooten @ bekks yes, thats how I enabled the f12 boot menu. I also have tried moving usb HDD up in prioirty
[20:14] <Arrick> ok, bbl after I manage to break it.
[20:15] <colby> I can see the files in windows explorer but no matter what I cant get it to show in the boot menu. Been at this for HOURS. I just want to replace windows 7. this is my spare machine and I need a portable machine for a course with it.
[20:16] <lordcirth> colby, does the machine have a CD drive?  Might be easiest to just make a CD
[20:16] <AlexanderMP> Try to boot from this flash drive without EFI (disable EFI)
[20:16] <lordcirth> Some laptops have weird problems booting from USB
[20:16] <colby> @lordcirth No. sadly
[20:16] <colby> and I do not have access to a plug in cd drive sadly.
[20:17] <ppf_> i've had really bad experiences with creating boot usb drives in windows
[20:17] <colby> My main gaming laptop does but last time I tried setting up a duel boot on  a windows 10 pc it gave me a lot of issues with windows boot loader and GRUB. so I rather just turn this laptop into a linux machine. I did it once years ago with WUBI but that doesnt exist anymore.
[20:18] <colby> I had to revert it for reasons a year ago and now I want to perm. put it back
[20:18] <lordcirth> colby, you verified the ISO hash?
[20:19] <colby> I have not.. though I have tried redownloading the iso and putting it onto the usb 4 seperate times.
[20:22] <colby> any ideas?
[20:23] <ppf_> verify the iso, just to be save
[20:24] <dbz2k> does anyone know how to fix the network manager bug?
[20:24] <bencc> if I want to spread the disk load between two hdd drives, raid0 is my only option?
[20:25] <bencc> I have to set it up during installation?
[20:25] <jr3> @SonikkuAmerica https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1573206
[20:25] <dbz2k> I still have this problem where it thinks my wifi network is an Ethernet connection
[20:25] <Random832> dbz2k: well, it is. wifi is "wireless ethernet"
[20:26] <Random832> or are you talking about something beyond that
[20:27] <dbz2k> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1574347
[20:27] <dbz2k> It never worked for me
[20:27] <ppf_> bencc: raid0 does striping of your data
[20:28] <winsen> hi all,  is sda1= sda?
[20:28] <ppf_> if that's what you mean by spreading the load
[20:28] <ppf_> winsen: no
[20:28] <lordcirth> winsen, no, sda1 is the first partition on sda
[20:28] <ppf_> sda1 in the first partition on the drive sda
[20:29] <bencc> ppf_: I want to double the speed of my drives. stripping is good. any other option?
[20:29] <\9> winsen: sda represents the whole drive
[20:29] <ppf_> bencc: mirroring
[20:29] <votlon> bencc: you have hardware raid?
[20:29] <lordcirth> bencc, there's also btrfs or zfs raid0
[20:30] <lordcirth> bencc, but generally, yeah.  Note that raid0 will improve sequential speeds, but it wont help seek times
[20:30] <bencc> votlon: software raid.
[20:31] <lordcirth> bencc, are the drives identical?
[20:31] <bencc> lordcirth: I think my issue is with sequential read/write like downloading/uploading big files or transcoding
[20:31] <bencc> lordcirth: yes
[20:31] <bencc> lordcirth: I can setup raid-0 only during installation?
[20:31] <lordcirth> bencc, then raid0 is good.  However, note that you'll have no redundancy and twice the chance of a failure
[20:31] <votlon> bencc: hardware raid has a dramatic difference compared to software, might be worth the investment
[20:32] <votlon> bencc: also cost effect because ur not buying new drives :)
[20:32] <ppf_> bencc: not neccessarily, you can set up btrfs (with some pain) afterwards
[20:32] <winsen> thanks. can you please tell me how can I know if I have boot partition?
[20:32] <bencc> ppf_: so if I have ubuntu installed on sda I can setup btrfs on both drives after that?
[20:33] <ppf_> votlon: yes, hardware raid might be a bit faster. but it's very expensive, and if the controller breaks, your data is gone
[20:33] <lordcirth> winsen, 'df -h'
[20:33] <bencc> votlon: that's dedicated hosting. I don't have a choice between hardware/software raid
[20:33] <ppf_> bencc: what's your intended setup?
[20:33] <lordcirth> bencc, yeah, if you do btrfs, you install normally on sda, then add sdb after
[20:33] <colby> screw it I give up. Is it difficult to set up a dual boot on a new laptop with windows 10?
[20:33] <bencc> votlon: I think the bios has raid but still software. makes sense?
[20:33] <votlon> ppf_: Dell raids and very easy/cheap/reliable, and they come with linux based recovery software :)
[20:33] <ppf_> two disks in total?
[20:33] <votlon> dell raids are*
[20:33] <ppf_> colby: no
[20:34] <leonel> hellouuu
[20:34] <bencc> ppf_: I'm running several transcoding jobs in docker containers. I think that disk becomes bottleneck
[20:34] <bencc> ppf_: so I want to double the speed
[20:34] <colby> Alright. I tried doing with my windows 10 desktop and it was bad. GRUB wouldnt work, and it would blue screen the windows bootloader..
[20:34] <colby> hopefully this laptop will go better.
[20:34] <winsen> lordcirth: whta should I read?
[20:34] <bencc> ppf_: yes. 2x2TB disks
[20:34] <ppf_> okay. you've already installed ubuntu on one disk?
[20:35] <bencc> lordcirth: btrfs will replace the filesystem or is additional file system?
[20:35] <bencc> ppf_: yes
[20:35] <lordcirth> winsen, df -h will show all mounted partitions.  So, if you have a separate boot partition, you should see /boot
[20:35] <ppf_> bencc: replace it
[20:35] <lordcirth> bencc, if you install onto btrfs root, replace it
[20:35] <lordcirth> You can also make a separate one, if you like, but I don't see why
[20:35] <bencc> ppf_: that's remote dedicated server hosting. I can't replace drives
[20:35] <winsen> lordcirth: ok so I didn't find it.
[20:35] <winsen>  I 'd like to install the grub but I wonder if sda is correct or not: https://paste.debian.net/881439/
[20:35] <ppf_> bencc: replace the filesystem
[20:35] <bencc> ppf_: how?
[20:35] <ppf_> bencc: i was answering your question to lordcirth
[20:36] <bencc> ok
[20:36] <ppf_> what fs did you use for your ubuntu installation?
[20:36] <winsen> lordcirth: https://paste.debian.net/881619/
[20:36] <lordcirth> winsen, grub should go on whatever hard drive your BIOS is set to boot from
[20:37] <ppf_> what you can do is format the second drive as btrfs, remount your root as ro and dd everything over, then add the first disk as a striping disk to the second
[20:37] <lordcirth> winsen, you're still on the CD?
[20:37] <ppf_> or reinstall, and choose btrfs right up front
[20:37] <bencc> ppf_: authomatic provisioning of the service provider http://wiki.dacentec.com/index.php?title=Provisioning_System
[20:37] <lordcirth> reinstalling sounds much easier
[20:38] <bencc> lordcirth: raid0 requires kvm which is a pain...
[20:38] <ppf_> and it's probably faster,too :)
[20:39] <ppf_> bencc: hardware raid, yes
[20:39] <ppf_> software raid, no
[20:39] <ppf_> (assuming we're talking about real disks here?)
[20:39] <ppf_> or is your dedicated server virtualized?
[20:39] <lordcirth> bencc, is this a VPS?
[20:39] <bencc> ppf_: yes. real hdd disks
[20:39] <bencc> ppf_: real dedicated hardware.
[20:39] <bencc> ppf_: raid-0 requires installation from scratch, isn't it?
[20:40] <ppf_> as i said above
[20:40] <ppf_> you can set a btrfs raid0 during installation
[20:40] <ppf_> you can also do it later, but it's a bit involved
[20:40] <bencc> ppf_: ok, during installation. but I can't install manually without kvm
[20:40] <bencc> ppf_: ok
[20:40] <lordcirth> bencc, so you only have ssh, or what?
[20:41] <bencc> lordcirth: ssh, automatic provisioning of several basic profiles and kvm
[20:41] <lordcirth> bencc, and why is kvm a pain?
[20:42] <bencc> lordcirth: requires java
[20:42] <lordcirth> bencc, ah, one of those
[20:42] <bencc> lordcirth: last time I used it, it took me several hours to setup with trial and error
[20:44] <lordcirth> bencc, so you can't supply your own preseed file, either?
[20:44] <winsen__> any clue guys?
[20:44] <winsen__> sorry I was disconetcted
[20:44] <lordcirth> bencc, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Convert_a_single_drive_system_to_RAID
[20:45] <lordcirth> winsen__, to be clear, you want to know which drive to install Grub to?
[20:46] <bencc> lordcirth: that's raid 1, not raid 0
[20:46] <lordcirth> bencc, ah, sorry
[20:46] <lordcirth> Yeah you can't convert to striping in-place
[20:46] <enrico_> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[20:47] <lordcirth> At a block level
[20:47] <lordcirth> btrfs can, though
[20:47] <lordcirth> bencc, you might be able to make a btrfs filesystem on sdb, then debootstrap an Ubuntu install into it?
[20:47] <bencc> lordcirth: maybe. don't know how
[20:47] <bencc> lordcirth: maybe this guide will help me. I only need docker: https://docs.docker.com/engine/userguide/storagedriver/btrfs-driver/
[20:48] <winsen__> lordcirth: right that's I want to know.
[20:48] <i11iga1Code> how do i save commands used in terminal?
[20:48] <kisb> they are saved. check history
[20:48] <lordcirth> bencc, actually, didn't you say you just wanted the transcoding to be fast?
[20:49] <lordcirth> bencc, you don't need the whole root in raid1
[20:49] <winsen__> any clue guys?
[20:49] <bencc> lordcirth: right. just make docker container spread the load across the two drives
[20:49] <lordcirth> winsen__, you have a hard drive, sda, and the USB, sdb.  Why wouldn't you want it on the hard drive?
[20:50] <lordcirth> bencc, right, so you can shrink your / to make room on sda, then make a btrfs raid1 across the 2 drives
[20:50] <bencc> lordcirth: cool. I'll try it
[20:51] <bencc> lordcirth: raid0 not raid 1 :)
[20:51] <lordcirth> right, typo
[20:51] <lordcirth> people don't do raid0 very often
[20:51] <winsen__> lordcirth: sure I want it on the hard drive. but I want to know on wich partition should I istall it?
[20:52] <bencc> lordcirth: I need raid0...
[20:52] <winsen__> *install
[20:52] <lordcirth> winsen__, you don't put Grub on a partition, it installs itself to the beginning of the drive
[20:52] <bencc> lordcirth: don't care about reliability
[20:52] <lordcirth> winsen__, so just /dev/sda
[20:53] <john38> Hello can sombody please tell me how i found out which driver is my pci-express usb card using??
[20:54] <winsen__> lordcirth: that's what i did but it doesn't work correctly. I can boot on my linux partition
[20:54] <lordcirth> winsen__, can or cant?
[20:54] <winsen__> lordcirth: sorry I mean *i can not
[20:55] <lordcirth> winsen__, well, what happens when you try?
[20:55] <Guy1524> hey guys, in ubuntu 16.04, how do I change the interval of volume switching when using the volume buttons on my keyboard
[20:55] <Guy1524> I want it more like windows where it modifies by 2% each press
[20:56] <john38> Hello can sombody please tell me how i found out which driver is my pci-express usb card using??
[20:56] <tomreyn> john38: it's either pci-express or usb, not both. unless you mean a usb (root) hub plugged into a pci-express slot
[20:56] <john38> yes that
[20:56] <tomreyn> sudo lspci -knnv
[20:56] <tomreyn> !pastebin
[20:58] <winsen__> lordcirth: it shows the grub in very basic "debian first, second win7, when I try to boot on debian it doesn't. it founds errors trying to correct them but unfortunetely it can not. So itcan not  boot on it.
[20:58] <john38> tomreyn, how do i pastebin again
[20:58] <tomreyn> john38: see what ubottu wrote
[20:58] <lordcirth> winsen__, well, you'll need to tell us what these errors are
[20:59] <john38> tomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23335802/
[20:59] <winsen__> lordcirth: I need to write them down because there are few. Are you sure that sda would be the correct place where I'd install the Grub?
[21:00] <lordcirth> winsen__, where else?  It's the only hard drive.
[21:00] <lordcirth> winsen__, by the way, if you don't know about Grub, why are you doing the manual install?  Did the automatic one not work for you?
[21:00] <hamsterpower> hello, I was following the guide to install OpenCV. I couldn't compile c++ snippet in section "Loading an image file in C++"
[21:00] <winsen__> lordcirth: I wonder if sda3 is not my old boot partition, did you take a look?
[21:01] <hamsterpower> the link to guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenCV
[21:01] <lordcirth> winsen__, why would it matter?  The installer should configure grub to point to the new Ubuntu install.
[21:01] <winsen__> lordcirth: https://paste.debian.net/881439/
[21:02] <lordcirth> winsen__, oh, you are chrooting in to fix it?
[21:02] <tomreyn> john38 you have multiple controllers, most of them are probably onboard. the one you are looking for may be this one: 02:00.0 USB controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VL805 USB 3.0 Host Controller [1106:3483] (rev 01) (prog-if 30 [XHCI])
[21:02] <lordcirth> winsen__, then go read your chroot's /etc/fstab to find out where /boot is
[21:02] <winsen__> lordcirth: do you mean even though it should work because sda is by default where Grub would be installed?
[21:02] <tomreyn> john38: its driver is xhci_hcd
[21:02] <tomreyn> (a generic driver)
[21:03] <lordcirth> winsen__, grub needs to install to sda, certainly.  But it points to your kernel in /boot.  So if you run grub-install without /boot mounted, it's not going to work
[21:03] <tokitok> REGISTER Pisspass1965! catsndogs@tuta.io
[21:03] <john38> tomreyn, this onboard slot is for pci-e x1
[21:03] <john38> tomreyn, is that what you mean
[21:03] <ppf_> tokitok: time for a new password maybe :)
[21:03] <tokitok> fuck
[21:03] <lordcirth> tokitok, always register from the server channel to avoid such mistakes
[21:03] <tokitok> f#¤K i mean
[21:04] <winsen__> lordcirth: do you think it's important to update once I finished to reinstall the grub from terminal ubuntu live usb before rebooting or i doesn't matter?
[21:04] <tokitok> noob trying again, thanx
[21:04] <tomreyn> john38: no. you asked which driver your usb controller uses. i provided a possible answer.
[21:04] <lordcirth> winsen__, what, package updates?  That should be able to wait.
[21:04] <john38> tomreyn, thanks
[21:04] <yancho> hi guys. anyone can offer some tips as to why I'm getting this pls? Err:4 http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 udev amd64 229-4ubuntu11   Hash Sum mismatch
[21:05] <lordcirth> yancho, when doing what? apt upgrade?
[21:05] <tomreyn> john38: search the output you posted for "USB" and you will find out which USB controllers you have, iuncluding their drivers
[21:05] <yancho> lordcirth: yes - even upgrade
[21:05] <yancho> even update i meant*
[21:05] <john38> tomreyn, im looking for a windows 7 equivalent
[21:05] <tomreyn> john38: this wont help.
[21:06] <tomreyn> john38: i parsed your statement as: i am lookking for a driver for windows 7 by revieing the drivers linux uses.
[21:07] <winsen__> lordcirth:"So if you run grub-install without /boot mounted, it's not going to work? what is the command line to mount the /boot in my case?
[21:07] <ppf_> mount your boot partition to /boot
[21:08] <ppf_> whichever that is
[21:08] <tomreyn> yancho: sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*; sudo apt-get update
[21:08] <winsen__> lordcirth: should I type sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt before command line "grub-install /dev/sda"?
[21:08] <ppf_> no
[21:09] <winsen__> I am not sure that make sense for me either
[21:09] <ppf_> when installing the system, did you pick a partition for /boot?
[21:09] <winsen__> ppf: what do you mean?
[21:10] <ppf_> precisely what i said
[21:10] <winsen__> ppf: did I create boot partition?
[21:10] <ppf_> during install you can choose to create a dedicated /boot partition
[21:10] <ppf_> or to not d oso
[21:10] <tomreyn> only in manual partitioning though, isnt it
[21:11] <tomreyn> so unless s/he knows what it is, probably not.
[21:11] <ppf_> yeah
[21:11] <winsen__> ppf: I thought I did but as you can see here it is not: https://paste.debian.net/881619/
[21:12] <ppf_> winsen__: ls /boot
[21:13] <giovoni> hard to read this channel's log with so many people join and leaving
[21:13] <winsen__> ppf: https://paste.debian.net/881700/
[21:13] <giovoni> the other day I read about some type of irc filter
[21:13] <nicomachus> giovoni: /ignore -channel #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[21:13] <giovoni> does anyone know how to do it
[21:14] <john38> tomreyn, hey tom you think you could tell me which driver on this page you think could be it
[21:14] <akik> !quietirc | giovoni
[21:14] <winsen__> ppf: I am on ubuntu live usb. I that's what it shows right?
[21:14] <john38> tomreyn, http://www.via-labs.com/driver.php
[21:14] <giovoni> ok... i just ran it. hopefully i can read better now
[21:14] <giovoni> thank you ubotu
[21:15] <nicomachus> giovoni: you should see a confirmation message.
[21:16] <giovoni> yea i ran it wrong
[21:16] <ppf_> winsen__: mount
[21:16] <giovoni> looking at that link to see how to run it properly
[21:16] <Arrick> can someone point me to a tutorial on manually (and permanently) changing my screen resolution? My native resolution on my monitor is 1680x1024, and the os only sees 1024x768
[21:16] <newshound68> having problems with wifi set up on pi2
[21:16] <winsen__> ppf, lordcirth, anyway thanks. I'll see later. good night
[21:16] <nicomachus> Arrick: you'll wanna use xrander
[21:16] <nicomachus> errr... xrandr
[21:16] <winsen__> ppf: sorry?
[21:17] <nicomachus> Arrick: see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[21:17] <winsen__> ppf: https://paste.debian.net/881711/
[21:19] <ppf_> then no, that's the live system's boot you pasted earlier
[21:19] <john38> tomreyn, ..??
[21:21] <winsen__> ppf: that's what I told you. at the moment I am runing ubluntu live cd
[21:21] <winsen__> good night all
[21:25] <i11iga1Code> how do i save commands used in terminal to .bash_history?
[21:25] <nicomachus> i11iga1Code: already done.
[21:25] <nicomachus> should be, at least.
[21:26] <i11iga1Code> its not
[21:27] <lordcirth> i11iga1Code, if you put a space before a command, it does not save.
[21:27] <i11iga1Code> lol
[21:27] <lordcirth> And sometimes if you had multiple terminals open, only one will save.
[21:27] <i11iga1Code> not the problem here pal
[21:27] <vbgunz> fellas, I came here earlier with wifi problems. fast.com showed a 2.6Kbps connection. I agree, it's ridiculous. the wifi also disconnect rampantly. I just tried the neon distro from a usb stick and I get on average 20Mpbs. That's cool. Anyone have an idea how to fix the wifi on Ubuntu?
[21:27] <akik> i11iga1Code: they will be saved there when you close bash
[21:27] <nicomachus> i11iga1Code: you can also clear it by writing cat /dev/null > ~/.bash_history Any chance you did that?
[21:28] <ppf_> i11iga1Code: set -o | grep history
[21:28] <lordcirth> vbgunz, find out what driver neon used, then install it on Ubuntu.
[21:28] <tokitok> hey, anyone here who knows the difference between "join channel" and "auto-join channel" in HexChat. I'm a first-timer on IRC today..thanx.
[21:29] <ppf_> printf "${HISTFILE}\n${HISTSIZE}\n${HISTFILESIZE}\n"
[21:29] <nicomachus> tokitok: join is to join it on command. auto-join will join it everytime you open hexchat.
[21:29] <tokitok> ok Thanx m8!
[21:30] <ppf_> i11iga1Code: if that first command says 'off', enable it with set -o history
[21:30] <nicomachus> tokitok: no problem. /join #hexchat if you have any other questions.
[21:30] <i11iga1Code> permission problem :P
[21:31] <ppf_> i11iga1Code: what
[21:31] <i11iga1Code> had to chown the whole folder :)
[21:32] <i11iga1Code> or just the file
[21:32] <i11iga1Code> [fixed]
[21:32] <ppf_> !next
[21:32] <i11iga1Code> hdhd
[21:32] <i11iga1Code> hehe
[21:32] <nicomachus> !yay
[21:33] <bekks> Does someone in here familiar with OpenStack mind to answer me a few question in a query? I'm unfamiliar with it, and looking for some clarification on its design, its components and its use cases?
[21:33] <nicomachus> was about to slam !pm and then saw the user nick. :D
[21:36] <Bashing-om> Guys. GUI attempting to mount internal drive partitions results in " failed to mount .... do not have permission " - GUI popup - on a minimal install of xenial ( 4 !! installs in differing configurations) .. and then system eventually freezes up . No problem to mount them in terminal . Any guidance on what is not going on in the GUI ?
[21:36] <Orcacat> Hi! Is it possible to decrypt my whole harddrive i encrypted when i installed ubuntu?
[21:36] <nicomachus> Bashing-om: are you opening your file manager as root?
[21:37] <nicomachus> or whatever it is you're trying to use to mount.
[21:37] <nicomachus> Orcacat: nope, sorry.
[21:37] <Orcacat> Nicomachus: rip
[21:37] <nicomachus> Orcacat: you can decrypt it while in use, but you can't permanently decrypt it.
[21:38] <Orcacat> nicomachus: yeah thats the problem, i wish to dual boot it with windows. Cant shrink my harddrive encrypted
[21:38] <nicomachus> sure you can
[21:39] <nicomachus> it's just not easy. :D
[21:39] <ppf_> doesnt' really matter if it's encrypted or not
[21:39] <ppf_> (how did you encrypt it btw? luks?)
[21:39] <nicomachus> ppf_: well, you have to use a live disc and mount the encrypted partition, which is a bit more difficult than mounting a normal partition.
[21:39] <nicomachus> Orcacat: see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[21:40] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: Yeah tried that too . Groups appear to be set correctly .. can not access from either the file manager or the desktop icons .
[21:40] <nicomachus> Bashing-om: may have to start nautilus (or whatever FM) from terminal with gksu
[21:41] <cringy> sup
[21:41] <gebruiker> does grub sort by date of install or by version?
[21:41] <gebruiker> ( when booting )
[21:41] <Orcacat> nicomachus: tnx
[21:41] <bekks> gebruiker: by order in its config file.
[21:41] <gebruiker> what is the default?
[21:41] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: well .. can give that a whirl .. is there a differnce between " gksu and sudo -H " to open a GUI app ?
[21:42] <bekks> gebruiker: the order of detection / configuration.
[21:42] <gebruiker> bekks, seriously guy .. what are you babbeling?
[21:42] <nicomachus> Bashing-om: not really sure tbh.
[21:42] <ppf_> nicomachus: that's complicated because it's the root partition, not because it's encrypted
[21:42] <nicomachus> gebruiker: he's answering your question
[21:42] <gebruiker> nicomachus, no he is not
[21:42] <bekks> gebruiker: I was just answering your question. If it isnt the answer you like, it isnt my fault.
[21:42] <gr1dl0ck> yes he is
[21:42] <gebruiker> because that is *not* what i asked
[21:43] <nicomachus> gebruiker: it's exactly what you asked.
[21:43] <ppf_> gebruiker: it is
[21:43] <bekks> gebruiker: you asked about how the menu order is generated. I answered your question.
[21:43] <gebruiker> bekks, no i asked if it was by date or by version by default
[21:43] <nicomachus> nieither.
[21:43] <nicomachus> neither*
[21:44] <bekks> gebruiker: neither nor. I told you what the default is.
[21:44] <OerHeks> by kernel, default.
[21:44] <gebruiker> that is the right answer !
[21:44] <gebruiker> jeejz not that hard
[21:44] <nicomachus> k bye.
[21:44] <bekks> *slow clap*
[21:44] <bekks> *plonk*
[21:45] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: Well .. As I have found no other solution will install gksudo .. and see what results -- . Can not hurt much more to try . The installs are good until I go messing with a GUI mount of the internal drives - then the system freezes ( ouch !) .
[21:46] <ppf_> Bashing-om: sudo does the same thing
[21:46] <nicomachus> ppf_: when opening a GUI program?
[21:46] <ppf_> yeah
[21:46] <nicomachus> like, running 'sudo nautilus' would open it as root?
[21:46] <i11iga1Code> is it a bad or good idea to create a (super) root script that loads programs on boot like: sudo service ferm start;sudo service tor start; sudo service ddclient start
[21:47] <ppf_> only difference is gksudo will ask for the password in a gui window
[21:47] <ppf_> i11iga1Code: yes
[21:47] <i11iga1Code> yes?
[21:47] <i11iga1Code> wat
[21:47] <ppf_> i11iga1Code: sorry. bad iead :)
[21:47] <i11iga1Code> why
[21:47] <OerHeks> i11iga1Code, with systemD ?
[21:48] <i11iga1Code> i can't get ferm to boot on startup, and it has to be enabled before tor and ddclient
[21:48] <bekks> i11iga1Code: create startup dependencies.
[21:48] <ppf_> with systemd or sysv or upstart, you configure whether services start on boot or not
[21:48] <i11iga1Code> thanks OerHeks, reading..
[21:48] <ppf_> you don't put that in the script
[21:48] <ppf_> i11iga1Code: which ubuntu?
[21:49] <i11iga1Code> raspbian, i must say they are alike when it comes to terminal/commandline interface, and this channel is way more active
[21:49] <i11iga1Code> hope you don't feel like wasting your time
[21:49] <ppf_> i11iga1Code: which raspbian?
[21:50] <i11iga1Code> the latest raspbian lite
[21:50] <bekks> i11iga1Code: So you are running raspbian?
[21:50] <ppf_> cat /etc/*-release
[21:50] <ppf_> jessie or wheezy?
[21:51] <i11iga1Code> jessie 8
[21:51] <ppf_> right, then systemd is your path
[21:51] <gebruiker> for the people that want to know the answer to the grub quesiton I posed earlier: it will put the latest kernel installed as default.
[21:52] <ppf_> systemctl enable ferm tor ddclient
[21:54] <i11iga1Code> i just tried that with ferm
[21:54] <bekks> you tried what?
[21:54] <i11iga1Code> ppf_
[21:54] <ppf_> enable will only hook it into the startup routine
[21:54] <hans109h> Can anyone help me with a failing do-release-upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10, I'm running into permission errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23335990/
[21:55] <ppf_> systemctl start ferm tor ddclient to bring the mall up
[21:55] <i11iga1Code> perhaps it has something to do with rights/permissions, because i just added user and removed pi, hmm..
[21:55] <bekks> i11iga1Code: so you arent running ubuntu, are you?
[21:55] <nicomachus> hans109h: did you use sudo?
[21:55] <i11iga1Code> we talked about that
[21:56] <bekks> i11iga1Code: you did not say "yes" or "no" yet.
[21:56] <i11iga1Code> i am running ubnutu on the machine i am talking from actually
[21:56] <nicomachus> he's running raspbian
[21:56] <bekks> Running non-Ubuntu makes your topic being offtopic in here.
[21:56] <i11iga1Code> i see im not welcome :'(
[21:56] <i11iga1Code> away i go to shitty support #raspbian chan
[21:56] <i11iga1Code> bye
[21:57] <mr_yogurt> Ubuntu is getting stuck in various stages of startup
[21:57] <ppf_> i11iga1Code: try #debian
[21:57] <mr_yogurt> Right now, the splash screen
[21:57] <ppf_> i11iga1Code: and the commands i posted :)
[21:57] <ppf_> mr_yogurt: hit escape during boot to see what it's doing
[21:57] <i11iga1Code> ppf_ do you care for some pm?
[21:57] <nicomachus> i11iga1Code: or even #systemd
[21:58] <V7> Guys
[21:58] <V7> I can't backup my system ...
[21:58] <V7> It says me that file is too large !
[21:58] <i11iga1Code> nice, you guys handles the way of getting me out of here professional and good
[21:58] <ppf_> i11iga1Code: i'm afraid i'm heading out
[21:59] <nicomachus> i11iga1Code: it's not about getting you out, it's about getting you into the right place.
[21:59] <i11iga1Code> ppf_ have a nice night then :)
[21:59] <lordcirth> V7, what are you using to back up, and where are you copying it to?
[21:59] <ppf_> generally i don't, just out of rime :)
[21:59] <i11iga1Code> i like that nicomachus
[21:59] <lordcirth> Are you copying to a USB?
[21:59] <mr_yogurt> ppf_: whne I do that nothing happens
[21:59] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: Sorry system froze up again .. will leave as is for a spell, not mess with the GUI and see if It remains up .
[21:59] <V7> lordcirth: http://i.imgur.com/UQEc8Bx.png
[22:00] <nicomachus> Bashing-om: nautilus with root seems to run very slow for me, too, most of the time.
[22:00] <lordcirth> V7, you are writing to a VFAT filesystem, they can only handle up to 4GB files
[22:00] <V7> lordcirth: Yup ... USB is 8GB
[22:00] <V7> lordcirth: Yeah I know that
[22:00] <V7> So I can't backup new insatlled system
[22:01] <V7> Is there any file which is bigger that 4GB ?
[22:01] <lordcirth> V7, you are dd'ing sda1 to a file on the USB?  That's bigger than 4GB
[22:01] <V7> ooh
[22:01] <V7> File ISO is bigger
[22:02] <V7> Understood
[22:02] <V7> Which filesystem I should use to make a backup ?
[22:02] <lordcirth> V7, unless your sda1 is smaller than 8GB, it still wont fit that way
[22:03] <lordcirth> Also, that's not an ISO
[22:03] <lordcirth> ISO has a special format, that's just a raw copy
[22:03] <lordcirth> !backup | V7
[22:04] <V7> lordcirth: Thank you for links, but I know types of backups ...
[22:04] <V7> Which one method you're using ?
[22:04] <V7> you use *
[22:04] <lordcirth> V7, I use Duplicity to backup my homedir
[22:04] <V7> lordcirth: Concrete
[22:04] <lordcirth> Also btrfs snapshots
[22:05] <lordcirth> I have not yet gotten around to sending the snapshots anywhere
[22:05] <V7> raid ?
[22:06] <lordcirth> V7, my important stuff is all on ZFS.  The backups are just for the remaining stuff that's too hard to put on ZFS.
[22:07] <V7> lordcirth: roger
[22:08] <yancho> tomreyn: still the same: E: Failed to fetch http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cloud-initramfs-tools/overlayroot_0.27ubuntu1.2_all.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[22:09] <winsen> hi all
[22:09] <winsen> ppf: are you there?
[22:10] <nicomachus> ppf_ said he was going to bed I think
[22:11] <MichaelTiebesl> hi there, after installing ubuntu 16.10 i have in the menubar an icon for text and calling. Why is that? and how to remove it?
[22:13] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: well.. Have a new install of a xenial mininal on a new SSD. on the 1st install .. prior to messing with the external mounting of partitions in the GUI I had no problems . Since then I have reinstalled minimal 3 times . - Have booted back up now from a freeze incident and will see if I remain stable .
[22:14] <quidnunc> What does "apt-get install ." do and how do I undo it?
[22:14] <younder> ls
[22:15] <nicomachus> quidnunc: uh... it installs packages. and you undo it by doing "apt-get purge <package name>
[22:15] <quidnunc> nicomachus: No "." is interpreted as a regex, so it installs all packages
[22:16] <nicomachus> ohhhh. that would be stupid to run.
[22:16] <quidnunc> nicomachus: Actually, I think it only installs all packages already installed. But it marks automatically installed packages as manually installed
[22:16] <nicomachus> again. stupid to run.
[22:17] <quidnunc> nicomachus: Thanks, but it was a typo
[22:17] <quidnunc> and an accident
[22:17] <nicomachus> apt-get install requires a Y/n confirmation
[22:17] <quidnunc> (I was trying to hit alt-. to take previous cmd line arg)
[22:17] <nicomachus> for that very reason
[22:18] <quidnunc> nicomachus: It didn't in that case
[22:18] <quidnunc> beacuse nothing was installed
[22:18] <quidnunc> nicomachus: Are you going to keep calling me an idiot?
[22:18] <nicomachus> I never did that.
[22:19] <quidnunc> You certainly implied it
[22:19] <MichaelTiebesl> quidnunc: he is not, you have to read better
[22:19] <MichaelTiebesl> the action is stupid nothing else
[22:20] <quidnunc>  <nicomachus> ohhhh. that would be stupid to run.
 again. stupid to run.
[22:20] <Ben64> yep, quite different from "you're stupid"
[22:20] <quidnunc> I can read fine
[22:21] <MichaelTiebesl> i see it
[22:21] <quidnunc> Ben64: Fine, "you did a stupid thing"
[22:21] <quidnunc> pedantry
[22:22] <quidnunc> except it was a perfectly understandable typo
[22:22] <MichaelTiebesl> you read fine but do you also understand what is written? 2 different things
[22:22] <GnuHiatus> Out of curiosity, would it be ok to package other people's software to snap?
[22:23] <quidnunc> MichaelTiebesl: Explain it to me.
[22:23] <quidnunc> because I guess I don't
[22:24] <cybex_> hi all, does anyone else, who uses Ubuntu-Gnome 16.10, experience lag/delays when logging in, after entering my password (and press enter) I will end up waiting 5s - 1min, any ideas?
[22:24] <quidnunc> Where are the auto/manual package markings stored?
[22:33] <Linuxh> My IBM machine is flashing a black screen when I booting and not loading the login screen.  I was trying to upgrade but stopped that and restart.  How do I fix this?
[22:35] <nicomachus> Linuxh: maybe set the nomodeset parameter?
[22:35] <nicomachus> !nomodeset | Linuxh
[22:35] <foo> I have a ubuntu system on the east coast. I'm on the west coast. System time is EST. I'm PST. I want to set system time to be PST... since that's the time I operate in. Any reason not to do this?
[22:36] <JFlash> hi, I was using atom editor and i unexpected closed a tab after control-X-ing some important content
[22:36] <JFlash> now the content is gonefrom the file... how can I recover it?
[22:36] <JFlash> does Atom editor or ubuntu save this content anywhere?
[22:37] <JFlash> temporary versions of a file or something?
[22:37] <cybex_> JFlash : https://discuss.atom.io/t/how-to-restore-your-previously-opened-tabs-even-non-saved-files/25035
[22:37] <cybex_> hope this helps
[22:37] <cybex_> or possibly ctrl + shift + t
[22:37] <cybex_> from : https://discuss.atom.io/t/reopen-close-tab/7473
[22:38] <quidnunc> /var/lib/extended_states for anyone who reads the logs in the future
[22:38] <JFlash> Cyber_Akuma, looks like thats about keeping the editor state after you closed it
[22:39] <JFlash> cybex_, I havent closed the program yet
[22:39] <cybex_> quidnunc : what did you need the auto/manual markings for?
[22:39] <JFlash> what I need is a way to list temp files, if there are any
[22:39] <quidnunc> cybex_: I accidentally did "apt-get install ." which marks everything as manually installed
[22:39] <quidnunc> (I think)
[22:40] <reyha> HI
[22:40] <cybex_> JFlash: I am not aware of any, but ill keep looking Lo
[22:40] <JFlash> cybex_, I already reopened the tab an the content is no longer there
[22:40] <cybex_> :p*
[22:40] <cybex_> oh shame quidnunc, well glad you got it sorted :p
[22:41] <GnuHiatus> So, I'm curious, let's say I want a snap of Adobe's brackets. Can I just do it myself and upload it to Ubuntu, so i have to technically fork out or rename it or what?
[22:42] <JFlash> what location can atom store temporary files on ubuntu?
[22:44] <lordcirth> JFlash, where can it, or where does it?  Temp files are normally put in /tmp or ~/.cache
[22:45] <JFlash> i mean.. I where I could potentially find this temp content
[22:45] <JFlash> thanks I will look there
[22:46] <lordcirth> JFlash, you can also do 'locate atom' and filter it down with grep
[22:46] <JFlash> thank you
[22:47] <cybex_> JFlash : seems to be somewhat inline with what you are looking for : https://github.com/atom/autosave/issues/11 : https://github.com/atom/atom/issues/8327 but I do not find anything regarding temporary files. If you really need to recover, I recall an app that monitors read/write on files as they occur, you might be able to find its location in that regard, or possibly use inotifywatch built into linux : see https://linux.die.net/man/1/inotifywatch
[22:49] <JFlash> cybex_, thanks, I'm looking into those
[22:51] <ZoderUck> Hello
[22:51] <cybex_> JFlash: Ill let you know of I find something else, but good luck
[22:51] <ZoderUck> how is everybody ?
[22:52] <JFlash> thanks man
[22:59] <JFlash> cybex_, the name of the file is too common , it'called index.js
[23:00] <JFlash> cybex_, because almost node package has an index.js there are thousands of results when I try the locate command
[23:00] <JFlash> cybex_, also, locate atom also brings thousands of results
[23:01] <JFlash> cybex_, any sugestions on how to grep these results
[23:01] <JFlash> cybex_, can I grep by date , like for recent files?
[23:02] <orlock> JFlash: you want find for that
[23:02] <cybex_> if you recall some contents of the fil thhat can make it unique, you can maybe egrep, just have a look at syntax but egrep searches the file contents
[23:02] <orlock> theres other ways too
[23:02] <JFlash> how can I do it?
[23:02] <cybex_> sorry, typos*
[23:02] <JFlash> yes I do remember the content
[23:03] <JFlash> thank you
[23:04] <JFlash> guys I tried this command :  find . -mtime 0 -type f
[23:05] <JFlash> but i listms me thousands of results from chromium cache
[23:05] <JFlash> how can I filter those out?
[23:06] <orlock> cude way
[23:06] <orlock>  add this to the end
[23:06] <orlock>  | grep -v chromium
[23:07] <JFlash> thank you
[23:09] <cybex_> egrep should work, else you somthing like "substring="line to search for"; for e in $(locate index,js); do result=$(cat $e | grep $substring); if [ ! -z $result]; then echo "possible file $e";fi ;done" ,  apologies if there is some mistake, my bash scripting is a bit rusty. Replace the contents of substring with a unique line from your file, include the quotes. Then the for should use the locate function to search for any file with that file name "index.js",
[23:10] <cybex_> JFlash : see above
[23:33] <Darien> Hey, I am having some problems with my wireless internet. Sometimes it will get really slow, stop, or disconnect. Any ideas?
[23:47] <hamsterpower> unity tweak tool sucks :( numix theme removes texts from Eclipse menu
[23:50] <dorkmafia> ok so I installed ubuntu on my ssd ... added a swap drive on the hdd, and home/root partiions but I can not boot ubuntu w/o having the usb stick plugged in
[23:50] <dorkmafia> i guess I have to add a boot partition?
[23:50] <stevlar> try boot repair
[23:50] <lordcirth> dorkmafia, you must have installed Grub to the USB by accident
[23:51] <stevlar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:51] <dorkmafia> no accident there since grub has to be on the usb
[23:51] <dorkmafia> i guess I need to install it to the ssd?
[23:51] <stevlar> yes u have to install it on the ssd
[23:51] <stevlar> if u dont want to boot while usb plugged in
[23:52] <dorkmafia> ok so how do i do that?
[23:53] <stevlar> check the link i sent to you
[23:53] <dorkmafia> go back through the install menu
[23:53] <dorkmafia> oh i can do it through the os
[23:53] <dorkmafia> if i boot into it
[23:55] <lordcirth> dorkmafia, boot into it, and grub-install /dev/sd#
[23:55] <lordcirth> However, I'm not sure if Ubuntu will automatically update grub correctly then...
[23:56] <dorkmafia> i can use the boot repair thing
[23:56] <dorkmafia> he linked me