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lotuspsychjegood morning to all03:42
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Comming to you live in a SSD with 16.04 - but I have had my misadventures ! Ya said ya got some advise on maintaining this SSD ? -05:23
lotuspsychjenice Bashing-om !05:23
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: what issues did you come across?05:24
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Still not certain .. system freezing up - Possible that my partitoning scheme was a bad bad idea . reinstalled as full disk and full desktop install .. so far so good .05:26
lotuspsychjeah great05:27
lotuspsychjebios needs to be from IDE to AHCI also05:27
lotuspsychjefor ssd05:27
lotuspsychje!info preload | Bashing-om first to install05:27
ubot5`Bashing-om first to install: preload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-2 (xenial), package size 34 kB, installed size 135 kB05:27
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Yeah I did check that AHCI was enabled .. anything wrong with a standard mount in /etc/fstab " UUID=d9c2a8e6-d014-42a6-846f-7e7892f4aef5 /               ext4    errors=remount " ?05:29
lotuspsychjeno, thats good05:30
Bashing-ompreload install .. any configuration ?05:30
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: no,that works automatic preloading apps, on next reboot05:31
lotuspsychje!swappiness05:32
lotuspsychje!swap05:32
ubot5`swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info05:32
Bashing-omThen all that is left is set swappiness ??05:32
lotuspsychjeset swappiness on 10 instead of the 6005:32
Bashing-omyeah .. on my to-do yet .05:33
lotuspsychjeyou can also tweak fstab with stuff, but i hear ubuntu uses best already05:33
lotuspsychjehttps://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd05:34
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Yeah .. that is what I gathered about tweaks .. I figger to leave well enough alone .05:34
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: setting browsers cache to 0 also helps alot on ssd05:36
Bashing-omK .. will do that also .. thanks for the hints and help by the way .05:37
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: i also use 'relatime' in fstab05:38
lotuspsychjeand wiped discard05:38
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Noted .. will see .05:40
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: that should do the tricks :p05:40
lotuspsychjeunity-tweak-tool to make your unity bit lighter/better05:41
lotuspsychjeand ccsm to tweak unity as your needs05:41
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: I gonna stick with xfce :) .. I do have ubuntu full install on this box .. and have a great deal of appreciation for unity  .. but my work flow/thought-process is best in xfce .05:44
lotuspsychjekk05:44
Bashing-omI noticed in my prior install that the log files were not being written, Maybe the freezes were in that respect ( ??). This install looks good thus far .05:46
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: not sure what could freezed...05:47
lotuspsychjecan be comming from several points05:47
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: My thoughts too .. could be a lot of things .. rather than trouble shoot, I got impatient in wanting to ger this install operational . - A new Nvisia card - GT 710 - and no open source support for it in 14.04 .05:49
lotuspsychjei see05:52
BobbyJrOk sorry to jump in here, but Im looking for a cheap but well supported card to replace my current AMD 7770 (which suffers from oddly poor performance with the opensource drivers)05:53
BobbyJrIs the nvidia FT 7-series worth looking at?05:54
BobbyJrGT*05:54
lotuspsychjeBobbyJr: with wich ubuntu version?05:54
BobbyJrlotuspsychje: 16.10 Gnome05:54
lotuspsychjeBobbyJr: you could ask in #ubuntu or #gamingonlinux where they know alof of latest cards/drivers05:56
lotuspsychjeBobbyJr: but i guess 16.04 would perform well on the most of cards05:56
Bashing-omBobbyJr: I am verry inpressed wuth the nVidia gt 710 .. cheap at under $40 USD05:56
BobbyJrBashing-om: Thats the card Ive been looking at and tbh at that price, cant go wrong.05:58
Bashing-omBobbyJr: What bkew me away .. after I found there was no open source driver ofr ot in 14,04 .. I finally got the vesa driver to load .,. and even with the vesa driver that card is sharp !06:00
BobbyJrBashing-om: Thats good news. Im assuming the support is there in 16.x. Though tbh Im in two minds whether Im sticking with Ubuntu anyway.06:02
lotuspsychjebbl breakfast06:02
Bashing-omBobbyJr: The support for proprietary is there in 14.04. --- 16.04 has the open source driver .06:03
Bashing-omI run a minimal install .. and to install the proprietary driver is a bucket load of other stuff that I do not want .06:05
BobbyJrBashing-om: aha yeah that makes sense.06:07
ducasse\o06:12
BluesKaj_Hiyas all11:31
daftykins\o11:32
ducasse\o BluesKaj_, daftykins - how are you guys?11:41
daftykinsnone too shabby here thanks, just trying to work out what to do with the day... and you?11:42
ducassestuck on building some stuff for yakkety, got to the i-could-do-this-but-it-will-likely-bork-my-system-stage...11:44
daftykins:D11:46
daftykinstime for a VM?11:46
ducasselxc, maybe, but i kinda really need this particular thingy on the host(s). googling for an alternative :)11:48
ducassea snap would actually be ideal here...11:49
BluesKaj_Hi ducasse, daftykins ..doing fine altho Iḿ seeing the dentist in 90 mins ..not looking forward to that11:53
daftykinserk! fingers crossed for that going smoothly :)11:54
ducasseBluesKaj_: you have my sympathy :)11:56
BluesKaj_new partial in my future , altho I think thereś an extraction sooner ot later too11:58
pauljwHi everyone12:01
ducassehiya12:02
daftykinso/12:03
daftykinswb pauljw12:03
* daftykins is groaning looking at accomodation near London for a wedding of a friend next year12:03
daftykinsthe weddings really need to stop :P12:03
pauljw:D12:03
ducassewhich terminal emulator do you guys use? i need to switch, and there are just sooo many to wade through.12:06
daftykinscmd.exe ?12:07
* daftykins ducks12:07
pauljwlol12:08
ducassecmd.exe is not a terminal emulator :)12:08
pauljwgnome terminal here12:08
ducassehmm.. how are the deps, i wonder? /me looks12:09
daftykinsi always thought it was a bit chubby, that one12:09
daftykinsdon't folk speak of terminator and so on?12:10
ducasseconsidering terminator, best i've found thus far.12:10
ducassei'm going to miss roxterm.12:10
BluesKaj_ Hi pauljw12:11
pauljwhey BluesKaj_12:12
daftykinsweird, my old das keyboard is working again12:14
daftykinsmaybe it has some capacitors i can solder >:)12:14
ducassedas keyboard <312:14
daftykinsthe cherry reds on that steelseries i bought have definitely been trashing my finger joints, so i think cherry blues are where it's at for my fingers12:15
pauljwyou know, solder isn't the answer for EVERYTHING... ;)12:17
daftykins8D12:17
ducassethere's also duct tape :)12:18
daftykinsbe nice if it was, £100 of keyboard right here :P12:18
pauljwtrue, would be nice if you could fix it.12:18
ducassewhat's wrong with it?12:18
daftykinswell it was dropping keys up until i abandoned use of it for the new one, so for example vowels might take 5 strikes to register one press12:19
* daftykins opens her up12:20
daftykinsomw the reds on this one feel so different12:20
daftykinsso essentially i have one keyboard now that's nice in games and one that's nice to type on XD12:20
ducasseoooh! looks like my new mikrotik will be here today! \o/12:22
daftykinshrmm there are indeed some little tiny caps12:27
daftykins10uF 16V12:27
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/o48brjqt27ppie7/IMG_20161017_133101.jpg?dl=012:31
daftykinsi think those are mostly USB port related though :(12:32
ducassedaftykins: do they look intact?12:38
daftykinsthey're solid so no sign of issue, yeah12:40
ducasseshould think there would be a very limited amount of things that can go wrong in a keyboard...12:42
daftykinsit's behaving when connected to these front USB ports, lets try some others12:43
daftykinsi have a USB Y cable to power it, since it annoyingly has the hub inside requiring more power12:43
daftykinswell damn, guess she's alive again... for now.12:45
daftykinsneeds a good scrub of the keys though ;)12:46
ducassewell-known issue :)12:47
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/mj8vmv07psdwgyk/IMG_20161017_140452.jpg?dl=013:29
daftykinseww13:29
ducasseoh man, you're being thorough :)13:36
daftykinsyeah it's been dirty for a while, i'm cleaning every key with IPA right now :P13:58
OerHeks "Zesty Zapus"15:24
daftykinsyep, but if they do, zap 'em back15:24
OerHeksjumping mouse15:24
ducassepackage! \o/15:50
ducasse:)15:50
daftykins:O15:51
daftykinshey i've been typing on my das for a while now and it's back to working fine O_O15:51
daftykinsi wonder how long this will last...15:51
ducassehard to say, enjoy it while you can :)15:53
daftykins^_^15:53
daftykinsno more finger joint pain \o/15:53
ducasseoh dear lord, i wonder if i should wait until the morning before i play with this...16:16
daftykins:D16:25
daftykinsyesss16:25
daftykinsotherwise it'll snowball ;)16:25
daftykins"i'll just try one more thing..."16:25
ducasseright now i'm in "wtf am i doing?"-mode :)16:36
daftykins:D16:38
daftykinsi'm seeing the dog in the safety specs16:38
daftykins(meme image)16:38
ducassethe docs are really good, there are just sooo much of them :)16:39
daftykinshrmm can't be too ace if you can't just pick it up and go17:17
ducasseyou can - it is set up as a regular home router by default, and that is not what i want.17:21
ducassei want to use the provisioning and management features of the bigger mikrotik with this one, and that is a bit more complex...17:22
ducassedaftykins: woohoo! got it! :)17:53
daftykins\o/17:54
pauljw:)17:54
ducasse_now_ i'm going to delay the remaining config until tomorrow :)17:56
Bashing-omSystem froze up again .. Ouch .. what is going on may take a bit to isolate !23:16
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