[00:00] <codfection> laptops goes to suspend whenever I close lid, whether plugged or unplugged. can I make it go to sleep only when I close lid while its unplugged and do nothing if I close lid while its plugged into the charger?
[00:00] <codfection> using i3 on ubuntu
[00:03] <p1l0t> so riddle me this. I connected my Ubuntu laptop to this IBM bladecenter I picked up. I used cat 5 and a switch. I can ping the MM but when I try to connect with either firefox or chromium it won't load a page.
[00:04] <lordcirth> p1l0t, IBM bladecenter?  That's a pile of fun right there... I worked on one of those once.
[00:06] <diluted__> http://globe.ink/2016/10/16/NC-Fire-Trump-s-Reichtag-Dejavu/
[00:06] <p1l0t> lordcirth: Yes sir.. it was free so I can't complain
[00:11] <p1l0t> How can I tell what connection the browser is utilizing?
[00:11] <Ben64> google "what is my ip address"
[00:13] <p1l0t> Ben64: yeah but googling won't work when I'm on a connection that isn't even on the internet
[00:16] <p1l0t> maybe I can just setup an ip route list..
[00:16] <p1l0t> mmmmmm...
[00:16] <p1l0t> yesssss
[00:21] <Darien> My internet sometimes gets slow, turns off, or disconnects. Any ideas?
[00:22] <lunar_blob> Darien, get rid of your dog
[00:23] <Darien> lunar_blob: Not helpful whatsoever.
[00:23] <lunar_blob> :)
[00:23] <lunar_blob> Darien, are your cables ok?
[00:23] <lordcirth> Darien, use traceroute or tracepath to see where the problem is.
[00:24] <lunar_blob> Darien, had used a friend's notebook on your wire to chack if the probl is in your machinje?
[00:24] <Darien> lordcirth: How do I do that?
[00:24] <Darien> lunar_blob: It's wireless, and it's only my computer so yes, it is.
[00:24] <lordcirth> Darien, tracepath 8.8.8.8 and see where the slowdown happens.
[00:25] <Darien> lordcirth: Do it when my internet is slow?
[00:26] <lordcirth> Darien, yes.
[00:26] <schemanic_> hello
[00:26] <Darien> lordcirth: Ok, thanks will do.
[00:26] <schemanic_> can anyone hear me?
[00:26] <lordcirth> Darien, however, if it's only your machine, this may not help.
[00:26] <lordcirth> schemanic_, yes, hi
[00:26] <schemanic_> Hi lordcirth
[00:26] <Darien> lordcirth: Ok.
[00:26] <schemanic_> okay. I thought I'd identified
[00:26] <schemanic_> anyone here good with rsync?
[00:28] <lordcirth> !ask | schemanic_
[00:28] <lunar_blob> bazhang, !!!
[00:28] <schemanic_> I'm using rsync to move files from a server. I need to move a whole tree, but I need the ownership on the directories to be different than that of the files, and completely different from the source.
[00:29] <schemanic_> say I'm moving /home/sftpuser/file1.txt
[00:29] <schemanic_> I need /home/sftpuser to have schemanic:sftp ownership
[00:29] <Darien> lordcirth: I think it's my drivers. Because it sometimes disconnects as well. While every other device is fine.
[00:29] <schemanic_> but /home/sftpuser/file1.txt to have schemanic:schemanic ownership
[00:29] <Darien> lordcirth: Also, before when I was running Windows 10 it didn't do it either.
[00:30] <lordcirth> Darien, then yes, that's likely
[00:30] <schemanic_> on the source server, the ownership for both things is tomcat:tomcat
[00:30] <Ben64> schemanic_: change owner after
[00:30] <Darien> lordcirth: Got any ideas for solving it?
[00:30] <lordcirth> schemanic_, rsync has a --chmod option which should be useful.  If that doesn't do enough, yeah, just chmod it after
[00:31] <lordcirth> Darien, find your model of wifi adapter using lspci, and google it,
[00:31] <Darien> lordcirth: Ok cool.
[00:31] <schemanic_> thanks all
[00:33] <p1l0t> oops
[00:36] <matal> ciao a tutti
[00:43] <xxgc> app1
[00:46] <superguest> I read here that "an (click-)event triggered for an element will bubble all the way up to the root element"
[00:46] <superguest> oops
[00:56] <lucifer_> how to hack a device in same wifi nwteork
[00:56] <lucifer_> how to hack a device in same wifi network
[00:59] <lordcirth> lucifer_, that is offtopic here.
[00:59] <lordcirth> !alis | lucifer_
[01:00] <compdoc_> lucifer_, the devil is in you!
[01:04] <lucifer_> some one near to making me pissoff so i want to get rid of his device
[01:05] <lordcirth> lucifer_, 1: That's illegal, 2: Still not on topic here.
[01:05] <pauljw> lucifer_, you're on your own, it's off topic here and we have language issues too
[01:06] <lucifer_> ok sorry
[01:06] <pauljw> np
[01:06] <lucifer_> where i can find my answers
[01:06] <pauljw> don't know
[01:06] <lordcirth> !alis | lucifer_
[01:07] <lordcirth> lucifer_, see above.
[01:15] <nameless> hello
[01:16] <nameless> I have a trackpad with buttons integrated into the touch area, but I'd like to rest my thumb on the buttons
[01:17] <nameless> it's using the synaptics driver, and I saw the AreaBottomEdge option
[01:17] <nameless> but changing that value doesn't seem to work as advertised...
[01:17] <harymary> anyone available to answer a question about screen adjustment on new install of ubuntu 16.04
[01:20] <harymary> here's my setup - i have an old hardware setup - my graphic card is an ati radeon 1300 - my new install runs fine but i cant adjust my screen resolution - ive heard of the news of ubuntu 16 dropping the ati proprietary drivers - i just wondered if anyone knew of a workaround or adjustment i could use to get some ability to adjust my screen resolution - right now i am stuck at 1024x768 with no other option
[01:21] <p1l0t> exit
[01:22] <xxgc> aywueu8
[01:23] <Necoco> Hiya folks - trying to get a PXE boot setup combined with an ATA over ethernet target
[01:24] <Necoco> i think this may be a bootloader problem, but iPXE is giving me an "exec format error" when pointed at the target
[01:24] <Necoco> no idea what I did wrong.. AoE documentation is very sparse
[01:31] <Guest400> hola soy jorge por primera vez tengo internet en cuba
[01:32] <Guest400> y logro conectarme con mi ubuntu
[01:32] <refefer> hi folks, what risks do I run updating my microcode for SkyLake on 16.04, kernel 2.7?
[01:33] <kellyleahy> hi.  I'm trying to calibrate a touchscreen in ubuntu mate 16.04.  I cannot seem to get the calibration to have any effect.  Is there some log file I can look at to see if I did something wrong?
[01:34] <xxgc> jisuanji
[01:35] <xxgc> xinxi
[01:38] <xxgc> ni
[01:41] <aj_> hey
[01:41] <nuxil> hello.
[01:42] <nicomachus> o/
[01:42] <nuxil> Question. are there any linux distros that been written with car's and raspberry pi in mins ? that also has nice gauges for diagnostics from the obd2 ?
[01:43] <nuxil> *minds
[01:44] <nuxil> no?
[01:44] <TheMarius> yes
[01:44] <nuxil> please tell more.
[01:44] <TheMarius> rasdebian or something
[01:44] <nicomachus> nuxil: not really a quesiton for channel. but yes, raspbian is a debian fork made for pi's
[01:44] <nuxil> nicomachus, , TheMarius ok .thanks.
[01:45] <nuxil> i'll go ask more in a pi channel
[01:45] <TheMarius> cars .... what do you think of there? like carputers?
[01:45] <TheMarius> good
[01:45] <TheMarius> luck
[01:45] <nicomachus> nuxil: try the #debian channel as well
[01:45] <stranglerfish> hello
[01:46] <stranglerfish> anyone able to help me understand why keybinding a simple script that echos some text does not work?
[01:46] <TheMarius> im curious how unity 8 will stack up against manjaro deepin.... i just installed it in a virtual machine.. pure linux pornography... best looking OS i have ever toutched
[01:47] <TheMarius> deepin that is
[01:47] <TheMarius> good things are happening in linux for sure
[01:47] <stranglerfish> the keybind command looks like so: bash /home/username/code/scripts/foo.sh
[01:47] <nicomachus> stranglerfish: how did you bind it? possibly just an error in the script
[01:48] <stranglerfish> the script is literally just: echo "System.out.println("
[01:48] <stranglerfish> works in terminal
[01:48] <kellyleahy> any tips on how to diagnose touchscreen calibration problems (nothing seems to affect distance from "correct" clicks)?
[01:48] <nicomachus> stranglerfish: ok, then how did you bind it?
[01:48] <stranglerfish> but when i press the keybind (ctrl+shift+l), nothing happens in terminal, netbeans, address bar, etc
[01:48] <nicomachus> kellyleahy: have you looked through this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touchscreen
[01:49] <Guest78391> how i change my nick name ?
[01:49] <stranglerfish>  /msg NickServ
[01:49] <nicomachus> Guest78391: /nick newname
[01:49] <stranglerfish> erm
[01:49] <stranglerfish> yeah that lo
[01:49] <kellyleahy> nicomachus: yes, i did the stuff there, nothing seems to make any difference.
[01:49] <Guest78391> thanks a lot
[01:49] <votlon> nuxil: most cars and simple pci systems, having a kernel would make the latency too high
[01:50] <votlon> most car ecu's use*
[01:50] <kellyleahy> nicomachus: haven't tried "lying" to the calibration tool or picking stupid numbers to see if they make any difference.  Maybe I'll give that a try.  Thanks for replying.
[01:50] <Tsurya> can we play westnoth ?
[01:50] <nuxil> votlon, its a old car. so i need to use the obd2 protocol
[01:50] <stranglerfish> is there some limitation on which keys I can use for the binding perhaps? i received no errors when setting it
[01:50] <nicomachus> nuxil: wat. car?
[01:50] <votlon> nicomachus: odb2 is new lol xD
[01:50] <nuxil> offtopic.
[01:51] <nicomachus> stranglerfish: shouldn't be, unless something else is already using it.
[01:51] <Tsurya> :v
[01:51] <stranglerfish> nah, when something else is using it I receive a warning about the potential keychange
[01:51] <votlon> nuxil: are you just wanting to display car data from a pi?
[01:51] <stranglerfish> i've tried logging out and back in again as well, still the same
[01:52] <nicomachus> stranglerfish: still waiting for you to tell me how you did the bind
[01:53] <nuxil> volton i want a distro that designed for it instead of me having to create lots of code to display the rpm etc on gauges. i can do it myself by using exising libs. but it takes some time and therfor was woundering if the already is one distro that had cars in mind.
[01:53] <nicomachus> nuxil: sounds like you're way off-topic for this channel.
[01:53] <Guest65874> Soo... I ran this in terminal, and my screen is the correct resolution... how do I make it permanent, it has a green box that says "Unknown Display"
[01:53] <Guest65874> # 1680x1050 59.95 Hz (CVT 1.76MA) hsync: 65.29 kHz; pclk: 146.25 MHz
[01:53] <Guest65874> Modeline "1680x1050_60.00"  146.25  1680 1784 1960 2240  1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync
[01:53] <nuxil> nicomachus, thell them to stop asking me Q then .. i'll replay you know :D
[01:55] <guardianL_> a car distro? :o
[01:55] <nicomachus> guardianL_: drop it.
[01:56] <votlon> nuxil: i happened to be an expert on the topic ;) built my dash for my brz with arduino, tried using a pi but wasn't successful, pm me if u want to see the libs i tried 4 pi thou
[02:01] <stranglerfish> hey sorry got distracted nicomachus
[02:01] <stranglerfish> i did it through the keyboard settings
[02:01] <ivan> is using apt to pin a local source a thing that can work, when the version numbers in the packages in the pinned source are exactly the same?
[02:01] <stranglerfish> is that what you mean?
[02:04] <Amul_macho> Help me solve this issue
[02:06] <Amul_macho> http://pastebin.com/UK4CZUCW
[02:06] <stranglerfish> @nicomachus
[02:06] <Amul_macho> what
[02:07] <Amul_macho> @_barto
[02:07] <Amul_macho> @_barto_
[02:07] <Amul_macho> @nicomachus
[02:07] <stranglerfish> this is so bizarre to me
[02:08] <nicomachus> stranglerfish: you may not be able to run a command/script through a keybind, but I"m not sure
[02:08] <nicomachus> Amul_macho: 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[02:08] <stranglerfish> i have seen threads that say you can
[02:08] <OerHeks> pasting an error without the command, why people do that?
[02:09] <stranglerfish> what if i somehow make that script an actual command that can be run from any directory?
[02:09] <nicomachus> OerHeks: no idea. but dpkg --configure -a usually kills those pesky little guys.
[02:09] <OerHeks> package is in a very bad inconsistent state ..
[02:09] <stranglerfish> http://askubuntu.com/questions/399062/running-a-script-from-a-keybinding
[02:09] <nicomachus> OerHeks: yea, figured we could dig at that if dpkg didn't work
[02:10] <stranglerfish> according to that it should work, and I tried with $HOME as well
[02:10] <nicomachus> stranglerfish: ah, yes. so you have to make the script into a shortcut. that would do it.
[02:10] <stranglerfish> how do i go about that? i knew how to make functions with fish shell but i'm no longer using that atm
[02:11] <Amul_macho> What exactly is package libxml2:amd64 for ?
[02:11] <stranglerfish> do i just add to .bashrc?
[02:11] <nicomachus> Amul_macho: did you try the dpkg --configure -a? and what is the command that brought this about?
[02:11] <Amul_macho> shows errors
[02:12] <Amul_macho> processing halted due to too many errors
[02:12] <nicomachus> paste the full command and full output please.
[02:12] <nicomachus> for the original error
[02:13] <janemeyers> Dissident Speaking Out - Gerhard Ittner "Alfred and Gerhard, well done! This video packed so much truth in a clear easy to understand way for all to quickly grasp. By using voice-over, and not subtitles, you have vastly increased your audience. A big hug and love to my German cousins, from an Englishman ;-)﻿"
[02:13] <nicomachus> !ops | janemeyers
[02:15] <Amul_macho> look how huge is this http://pastebin.com/bT9gzvuL
[02:15] <Amul_macho> lol
[02:15] <kellyleahy> @nicomachus - just tryed "lying" to the config using really crazy numbers for touchscreen and it still had no effect.  Suspect either (a) device name, (b) config file location, or (c) something I don't know anything about.
[02:16] <stranglerfish> k so i made an alias in .bash_aliases
[02:16] <stranglerfish> looks like so: alias println='/home/username/code/scripts/foo.sh'
[02:16] <stranglerfish> it works from terminal if i just do println
[02:16] <stranglerfish> but still not working from keyboard shortcut
[02:17] <YvesLevier> Hi,  I just intalled 16.04.  No menu in Nautilus.  Then cannot change the double-clic.  (i am using gnome flashback)
[02:17] <OerHeks> Amul_macho, so you want to setup xenial packages to your trusty platform?
[02:17] <stranglerfish> this is so weird
[02:18] <OerHeks> libpam-systemd:amd64 (229-4ubuntu11 is not available for trusty https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/amd64/libpam-systemd
[02:18] <Amul_macho> uninstall ?
[02:18] <Amul_macho> I mean remove
[02:19] <OerHeks> Amul_macho, i can not give an answer, as you did'nt include your original command in the first place. nor what guide you follow
[02:19] <stranglerfish> can someone on ubuntu try what i'm doing and tell me if it's working for them?
[02:20] <stranglerfish> cause i'm seeing threads claiming it should
[02:20] <Amul_macho> command is sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade and guide is same channel
[02:20] <Amul_macho> someone suggested me trying this as I was facing this earlier too
[02:21] <Amul_macho> after upgrade or update
[02:21] <lordcirth> stranglerfish, and what does foo.sh do?  Something that should be visible without a command line open?
[02:21] <stranglerfish> echos a line
[02:21] <stranglerfish> i'm basically trying to achieve what i used to do with autohotkey on windows
[02:22] <lordcirth> stranglerfish, ok, so you bound it to a keyboard shortcut.  Where do you expect the output to show up?
[02:22] <stranglerfish> create hotkeys for often repeated tasks like typing out boilerplate for code and such
[02:22] <lordcirth> stranglerfish, if you're literally just using 'echo' that wont work
[02:22] <stranglerfish> in the netbeans text editor is what i'm hoping, but also would be nice if it worked in emacs and sublime
[02:22] <stranglerfish> oh?
[02:22] <stranglerfish> what would I have to do for that to work then
[02:22] <lordcirth> stranglerfish, echo returns its output on stdout, which will go nowhere, because the shell the shortcut runs in is invisible
[02:23] <stranglerfish> ah lol
[02:23] <lordcirth> xclip might work
[02:23] <stranglerfish> is that also the case with print in python / c?
[02:24] <lordcirth> stranglerfish, yes
[02:24] <stranglerfish> ok so it wouldn't work to just do it as a python script instead
[02:24] <lordcirth> if you want to input stuff into arbitrary X windows, you'll need something X-aware
[02:24] <stranglerfish> i'll get xclip, i recall having it a few distros back
[02:24] <lordcirth> stranglerfish, a simple solution is to use xclip to put your text in buffer, then middleclick to paste it
[02:25] <stranglerfish> is there anyway to automate the middle click as well?
[02:25] <stranglerfish> perhaps in the keybind command?
[02:25] <SchrodingersScat> !info xautomation | stranglerfish
[02:25] <lordcirth> Or, xdotool
[02:25] <stranglerfish> or in the script itself, preferably?
[02:25] <Amul_macho> what is the command to reinstall a package >
[02:25] <Amul_macho> ?
[02:25] <stranglerfish> i just installed xclip, does that work better?
[02:25] <lordcirth> Amul_macho, apt install --reinstall x
[02:26] <lordcirth> stranglerfish, if you want to do it without the middleclick, look at that package ^
[02:27] <Amul_macho> hmm now I know why this problem occurs
[02:28] <Amul_macho> Actually that is due to upgrade a few months back to trusty from xenial and the packages were backed up
[02:28] <stranglerfish> erm, the xautomation just describes converting images and such
[02:28] <Amul_macho> or maybe backuped
[02:28] <Amul_macho> soory for the poor english
[02:28] <stranglerfish> i'm not seeing anything about clicking in the man page, aside from mention in the description
[02:29] <SchrodingersScat> stranglerfish: xte is a command in the xautomation package, xte mouseclick
[02:29] <stranglerfish> nevermind foudn it
[02:29] <stranglerfish> ah yeah, thanks :)
[02:30] <emreg> I can't see hardstatus line for gnu screen why?
[02:30] <SchrodingersScat> stranglerfish: the visual parts are if you need to scan the screen for places to click
[02:32] <stranglerfish> so
[02:32] <stranglerfish> i want to make an alias that first xclips to buffer, and then just simulates mouseclick
[02:32] <stranglerfish> i think i can figure that out
[02:36] <emreg> I can't see hardstatus line on gnu screen why?
[02:44] <G0di> i need help
[02:44] <G0di> spanish please
[02:44] <cfhowlett> !es | G0di
[02:45] <Amul_macho> bye G0di
[02:46] <G0di> cfhowlett thx :D
[02:48] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[02:50] <Amul_macho> hey OerHeks problem solved
[02:50] <usuario> pñkk
[02:51] <usuario> tontod
[02:54] <G0di> there nothing respond cfhowlett
[02:54] <cfhowlett> G0di, patience
[02:54] <G0di> ok
[02:56] <virtuosoj> Does anyone know of a good method to encrypt a USB drive using software in Ubuntu 16.04?
[02:57] <stranglerfish> hey SchrodingersScat you around still?
[02:57] <Amul_macho> hmm
[02:57] <stranglerfish> i'm having trouble with the xclip business
[03:00] <stranglerfish> nevermind i found better documentation
[03:11] <stranglerfish> ugh this still isn't working
[03:11] <stranglerfish> not sure what i'm doing wrong
[03:11] <SchrodingersScat> tell us what's going on
[03:16] <stranglerfish> anyone able to help me with xte?
[03:17] <kellyleahy> ok... I guess my attempts to set up the settings for touchscreen have borked my install.  How best to get to command line boot in ubuntu (don't boot into X)?
[03:19] <ObrienDave> stranglerfish, not if you don't tell us what's happening
[03:19] <\9> kellyleahy: try the single-user mode
[03:19] <kellyleahy> how do I get there?
[03:19] <stranglerfish> so i'm trying to make a keybind that will automatically output text to whichever window i'm in
[03:20] <\9> kellyleahy: it should be present in the grub menu
[03:20] <stranglerfish> i made a shell script, using xclip and xte
[03:20] <stranglerfish> the xclip part is working, but xte is not working. i'm trying to use it to simulate the middlemouseclick
[03:21] <kellyleahy> how do i force boot to grub menu?  shift didn't seem to work even though I thought it did before.
[03:21] <stranglerfish> you know what, i'll just simulate pressing ctrl+v instead
[03:22] <kellyleahy> ah... got that.  Don't see anything in "grub boot menu"
[03:22] <stranglerfish> see if i can get that to work
[03:23] <SchrodingersScat> stranglerfish: k, you'll want something like keydown Ctrl then the v, then keyup Ctrl, consult the manual.
[03:24] <kellyleahy> I'm looking at a screen that says "GRUB Boot Menu" with commands along the bottom (select, enter:boot, etc.) but nothing else.  C doesn't seem to go to command line even though I've pressed several times.  I'm feeling pretty stupid at this point.
[03:24] <SchrodingersScat> stranglerfish: xte 'mouseclick 2'  works for me to middle click, note that the mouse needs to be over the window you're clicking into.
[03:25] <virtuosoj> Nobody knows of disk encryption utilities that work well?
[03:25] <cfhowlett> !encryption | virtuosoj
[03:27] <stranglerfish> yeah i'm getting unknown command 'keydown'
[03:27] <stranglerfish> if i do
[03:27] <stranglerfish> xte keydown Control_L
[03:27] <stranglerfish> i've tried specifying -i
[03:28] <mskh> hi
[03:28] <Guest63706> hi
[03:29] <madd_step> hi
[03:29] <Javezim> Hey All, anyone had issues with Samba 4.3.11-Ubuntu on Ubuntu Server 14.04.4 and being able to Read/Write Data from Windows Clients? ""An Unexpected Network Error has occurred""
[03:30] <cfhowlett> Javezim, #ubuntu-server
[03:30] <nathan_> So... I minecraft has been trying to install every time I install any other package. I don't know why. I've cleared out the repository, and I'm not sure what else I've done to try to stop it. Where should I look to get rid of it?
[03:32] <stranglerfish> i think i'm close!
[03:32] <stranglerfish> this is taking me way too long though :P
[03:33] <SchrodingersScat> stranglerfish: works for me, are you quoting properly? xte 'keydown Control_L' ; xte 'key v' ; xte 'keyup Control_L'
[03:33] <stranglerfish> ah, i was doing that part wrong. i had the two arguments just next to each other
[03:36] <stranglerfish> shit ok so i got it to work but the issue is
[03:36] <stranglerfish> it's still just doing it in the shell, not in the window i need
[03:37] <stranglerfish> so if i type foo in terminal, it successfully puts the text into my clipboard. but it's not properly simulating the ctrl v i don't think
[03:38] <nathan_> ah! nevermind, finally figured out the minecraft-installer thing
[03:38] <nathan_> appears apt remove did it
[03:38] <stranglerfish> perhaps now my keybind is just broken
[03:38] <SchrodingersScat> stranglerfish: add a sleep so you can have time to move the mouse to the right window, or whatever works for you.
[03:39] <stranglerfish> is there no way to grab the current window or something?
[03:39] <stranglerfish> i never would have thought this would be such a difficult task lol, seems like something everyone would want
[03:40] <SchrodingersScat> !info wmctrl | stranglerfish
[03:42] <SchrodingersScat> stranglerfish: everyone has their own use case, I use xautomation to do lots of things, from filling out forms to spamming chats, so depends on what you're trying to do.  If you just need quick copy paste, the middleclick buffer is really nice.  I always miss it when I'm forced to use a non linux system ;(
[03:42] <stranglerfish> yeah, i'm trying to automate outputting of text, so filling forms sorta
[03:42] <stranglerfish> like
[03:42] <stranglerfish> I hate having to type out System.out.println each time for example
[03:42] <stranglerfish> i want to bind that to a key
[03:42] <stranglerfish> is xautomation a better call then?
[03:43] <stranglerfish> nevermind, derp question
[03:44] <stranglerfish> but yeah i'm still not getting how to get this to work
[03:45] <stranglerfish> isn't xte supposed to be able to paste to window instead of stdout?
[03:45] <SchrodingersScat> xte manipulates the keyboard and mouse
[03:46] <stranglerfish> fudge, i'm stumped
[03:46] <stranglerfish> i've managed to get the text into the clipboard
[03:46] <stranglerfish> but when it comes to getting it pasted with ctrl + v wherever i'm currently focused, i unno
[03:47] <stranglerfish> "Note that  some  commands  may
[03:47] <stranglerfish>               not  work  correctly  unless the display is on the console, e.g.
[03:47] <stranglerfish>               the display is currently controlled by the  keyboard  and  mouse
[03:47] <stranglerfish>               and  not in the background."
[03:47] <stranglerfish> any way around that?
[03:47] <Fudge> shift control V to a terminal
[03:48] <Anja> where's the best place to start troubleshooting the dimming of the backlight on my laptop screen?
[03:48] <stranglerfish> yes, that works. but what i want is for it to be to window
[03:48] <stranglerfish> so like
[03:48] <stranglerfish> if i'm in my ide
[03:48] <stranglerfish> i just wanna do ctrl+alt+n for the text to be auto pasted
[03:49] <stranglerfish> oh poo, i think my keybind is the issue
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> Anja: best way is to ask your issue here once in a while
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> !details | Anja so others can help you better
[03:51] <SchrodingersScat> stranglerfish: I'm struggling to find a good keybind for this, and I'm in xubuntu so not sure if my success or failures would help you at all, but there's probably a couple avenues to do this so don't get frustrated, like I was testing how to get something like Super+N to run xte 'str System.out.println' but it brought up like 7 windows so I think i'm done for the night.
[03:54] <stranglerfish> yeah i don't really understand what's going on i'm not very experienced with linux in general
[03:56] <Anja> on my laptop i use the backlight buttons. i get a notification of changing settings. nothing actually changes. i see no logs updating
[03:56] <stranglerfish> if i do println from the terminal (the alias), then ctrl+v in another window pastes properly
[03:56] <stranglerfish> but doing my keybind ctrl+alt+n does not seem to allow that
[03:57] <stranglerfish> leads me to believe i need to modify my xclip command
[03:58] <SchrodingersScat> oh, you may have to -selection CLIPBOARD or is it -SELECTION clipboard ? i always forget...
[03:59] <SchrodingersScat> stranglerfish: xclip -selection CLIPBOARD  if you want it int your ctrl-v buffer
[04:01] <stranglerfish> "echo -n "System.out.println(" | xclip"
[04:01] <stranglerfish> that's my first line in my script
[04:01] <stranglerfish> it was
[04:01] <stranglerfish> xclip -sel clip
[04:02] <stranglerfish> like, it works if i run the command from terminal
[04:02] <stranglerfish> but not from the keybind
[04:03] <stranglerfish> println works in terminal, but the command println for some reason doesn't work in keyboard settings :'(
[04:06] <SchrodingersScat> stranglerfish: how did you get it in the terminal?
[04:07] <stranglerfish> .bash_alias
[04:08] <stranglerfish> aliases
[04:08] <stranglerfish> "alias println='/home/omid/code/scripts/java-println.sh'"
[04:08] <stranglerfish> and typing println in terminal does successfully execute that "echo -n "System.out.println(" | xclip -sel clip" line
[04:09] <stranglerfish> and i have made it successfully output System.out.println to terminal right after, with that same script
[04:09] <SchrodingersScat> makes me wonder if the keybind can't read that then
[04:09] <stranglerfish> but none of it is working with the keybind
[04:09] <SchrodingersScat> maybe copy it to /usr/bin/ and chmod 755
[04:09] <stranglerfish> there's gotta be a way to make this work :(
[04:09] <stranglerfish> kk i'll try that
[04:11] <stranglerfish> nope
[04:12] <stranglerfish> OMFG
[04:13] <stranglerfish> omgomgomg i got it to copy with hotkey
[04:13] <stranglerfish> now just paste and i'm golden
[04:13] <SchrodingersScat> !ohmy | Abbreviations of profanity are still profanity.
[04:13] <stranglerfish> oh sorry
[04:20] <kellyleahy> where's the best place to put startup stuff for X11 (xsetwacom commands, in my case) to have them happen whenever ubuntu X server starts?
[04:20] <stranglerfish> k still dunno how to get it to paste lol
[04:22] <stranglerfish> k screw it i'll deal with this later
[04:22] <lucas_ai> How can I have execute permissions on my files in an NTFS drive? Can't I use it as my /home ?
[04:22] <Ben64> lucas_ai: no
[04:23] <lucas_ai> Ben64, how do I backup my executables to an NTFS system without losing their execute bit then?
[04:23] <Ben64> tar it first
[04:24] <lucas_ai> lmao. that's annoying. I'm trying to have my /home directory be in the same partition as my windows data (NTFS)
[04:24] <Ben64> well you shouldn't
[04:25] <Ben64> ntfs doesn't support permissions, usernames, group names, anything good that non-MS operating systems like
[04:26] <chipping> kellyleahy: traditionally you'd put things in ~/.xsession, but I think the safest way these days is probably to put your commands in a script file, chmod +x it, then put the script in Startup Applications
[04:26] <kellyleahy> @chipping, thanks!
[04:26] <chipping> np :-)
[04:27] <kellyleahy> @chipping if I want it system-wide?  They are settings for the touchscreen, so I want it to apply to all users.
[04:27] <kellyleahy> @chipping I found something called /usr/share/xsessions/mate.desktop - is that the appropriate place?
[04:28] <kellyleahy> @chipping - oops... obviously that isn't it.
[04:28] <chipping> no, that doesn't sound right — have a look in the /etc/X11/Xsession file and the /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ directory
[04:29] <chipping> my gut says putting a new file in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ is the way to go here
[04:29] <kellyleahy> @chipping - just found that too... I think you're right.  thx again.
[04:29] <chipping> np, good luck with it, I usually dread X config :-)
[04:30] <kellyleahy> @chipping - I dread all config ;)
[04:34] <MichaelTiebesl> hi there, i installed Ubuntu 16.10 and have in the panel bar at the top on the right a bell icon what is showing sms and phonecalls. Why is that and how to remove it?
[04:37] <nathan_> MichaelTiebesl, can you get a screenshot?
[04:37] <MichaelTiebesl> yes i make 1, wait please
[04:38] <ObrienDave> MichaelTiebesl, upload to imgur and paste a link for us
[04:38] <ObrienDave> !imgur
[04:39] <wafflejock> have this weird thing going on with HDMI output on 16.04 or 16.10 but doesn't happen on 14.04, wondering if there's something I can do to try an older version of the i915 module or what else to try
[04:39] <wafflejock> https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/photo/108173165070170894192/6329992220494460850?icm=false
[04:40] <kellyleahy> @chipping any idea where I can see the logs of what got run there in the Xsession.d folder?
[04:41] <ObrienDave> wafflejock, which video card and driver are you using?
[04:41] <MichaelTiebesl> nathan_:http://funkyimg.com/i/2iiGj.png
[04:41] <wafflejock> ObrienDave, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23337181/
[04:41] <MichaelTiebesl> nathan_:http://funkyimg.com/i/2iiGk.png
[04:42] <wafflejock> ObrienDave, does that answer well enough or need more details?
[04:42] <nathan_> well, I was hoping for a better screenshot... but my first guess is that you're using unity 8
[04:42] <nathan_> MichaelTiebesl, when you log in, did you change the session to Unity 8, as opposed to  Unity 7 (default)
[04:43] <ObrienDave> wafflejock, i'm trying to remember where to get the latest Intel graphics stack
[04:43] <MichaelTiebesl> nathan_:i didnt know that. i thought by default the unitiy 7 still
[04:43] <MichaelTiebesl> i have to log out to check that
[04:43] <nathan_> MichaelTiebesl, it should be default to Unity 7, but that's my first guess
[04:44] <ObrienDave> wafflejock, try here, no guarantees, ymmv https://01.org/linuxgraphics/
[04:45] <MichaelTiebesl> nathan_:still the same and unity 7 is by default i saw
[04:46] <wafflejock> ObrienDave, yeah googling brought me here https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/16.04/main/dists/xenial/ not sure how to install from there though
[04:46] <nathan_> MichaelTiebesl, I've never seen the bell before. If it was a Unity 8 thing that woudl make sense with the whole phone interface thing, but IDK
[04:47] <chipping> kellyleahy: looking at the last block in /etc/X11/Xsession I see this: SESSIONFILES=$(run-parts --list $SYSSESSIONDIR)
[04:47] <MichaelTiebesl> nathan_:thanks anyway
[04:47] <chipping> kellyleahy: it's loading every file in /etc/X11/Xsessions.d
[04:48] <chipping> it'll load them in sorted order, which is why the filenames are prepended with numbers to control the execution order
[04:48] <kellyleahy> I think I got it.  Thanks @chipping.  I had a misspelled wacom tablet device name.
[04:48] <chipping> hurrah \o/
[04:49] <nathan_> MichaelTiebesl, are you by chance using google Chrome?
[04:50] <ObrienDave> wafflejock, go here, you'll find the .deb for Intel Graphics Update Tool     https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[04:50] <wafflejock> ObrienDave, thanks just started looking at the stack from the other link you dropped too
[04:51] <ObrienDave> I used those on my old lappy
[04:51] <Bray90820> So ubuntu freezes every time I use a web browser I have tried both chrome and firefox
[04:52] <viktor01330> hi. i accidentally broke my desktop. :x don't have launcher, system tray, anything
[04:52] <viktor01330> can anybody help me? restore defaults or something?
[04:52] <kellyleahy> any trick to logging in to wiki.ubuntu.com?  Chrome just keeps spinning when it's supposed to be redirecting back there (after the SSO prompt)
[04:53] <kellyleahy> nvm... finally worked (after 10th time trying)
[04:53] <MichaelTiebesl> nathan_:nee firefox
[04:54] <nathan_> MichaelTiebesl, well that's weird. Did you install anything Chrome-related? Google tells me that it's a chrome notification icon
[04:55] <MichaelTiebesl> nathan_:chrome notification in the panelbar from Ubuntu? No i dont have anything installed from Google.
[04:56] <xsmltx>  anyone can help please, all the screen is not displayed on full screen, on fit to screen... Thank you.
[05:05] <viktor01330> nevermind, got it,.. i think
[05:07] <nathan_> xsmltx, I didn't understand that at all. What did you do, and what do you see?
[05:09] <xsmltx> nathan_, http://pastebin.com/SYxUK7nk, the windows are not fitting on all the display...
[05:10] <xsmltx> All the displayed screen is smaller than the normal diagonal of the hole screen display
[05:10] <tourazw> xsmltx: what window?
[05:11] <funkyheadgirl> trying to instal lubuntu to amilo d7850 but is freezes after is starts coping files, what am i doing wrong?
[05:11] <ObrienDave> funkyheadgirl, how long are you waiting?
[05:11] <funkyheadgirl> like 1h
[05:12] <ObrienDave> have you checksummed the ISO file?
[05:12] <nathan_> xsmltx, what did you try to do to resolve it already? I see you sent your xorg.conf.d , but did you... say... try using the displays app?
[05:12] <funkyheadgirl> i think so
[05:12] <xsmltx> tourazw, all the open programs, their windows are smaller than it should be...
[05:12] <ObrienDave> funkyheadgirl, i would try that again or re-d/l it using torrent
[05:12] <xsmltx> nathan_, the only environment I have is fluxbox, if you know any way to do it by command line please...
[05:13] <cfhowlett> funkyheadgirl, not enough info.  could be many things but .... #1 md5sum verify your .iso  and the USB
[05:13] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | funkyheadgirl
[05:13] <funkyheadgirl> amilo wont boot usb so i ude dvd but maybe so messed the dvd up somehow blah
[05:13] <cfhowlett> funkyheadgirl, same same.  verify
[05:13] <ObrienDave> funkyheadgirl, burn DVD no faster than 4x
[05:13] <cfhowlett> this too :)
[05:14] <nathan_> xsmltx, fluxbox isn't even one of the default flavors of ubuntu... how did you install this? Also, what screen resolution is your monitor?
[05:14] <funkyheadgirl> ya, maybe i messed that up, gonna try again
[05:14] <ObrienDave> let us know :)
[05:14] <funkyheadgirl> thanks hey bye! :)
[05:14] <xsmltx> nathan_, how to find it please?
[05:15] <xsmltx> It's a tablet
[05:15] <ObrienDave> laptop? or real tablet?
[05:16] <tourazw> Ops! xsmltx send me perverted lewd pm.
[05:16] <xsmltx> Imediatelly after installing Lubuntu-core minimal installation from scratch the screen was full, fit to screen, but everything was extremely small, it was a too big resolution, I've tried to change it like in the above pastebin link and now is small
[05:16] <cfhowlett> tourazw, send it to !ops
[05:18] <nathan_> xsmltx, the reasons it's cutting off is because the screen resolution doesn't have enough room for everything it wants to display. I'm sorry it's small, but you should change it back to a larger resolution, as it sounds like it was before
[05:19] <ObrienDave> *sigh* no one sends me perverted lewd pm's LOL
[05:19] <xsmltx> Oook, nathan_ than it could not be any other way, is it right ?
[05:19] <nathan_> xsmltx, change it back to the resolution it was before, exacly the way you changed it to 800x600
[05:20] <orlock> ObrienDave: bash.org/?104383
[05:20] <nathan_> xsmltx, then, because it's too small, find the place in fluxbox to change font, icon size, and panel size (and whatever else)
[05:21] <nathan_> xsmltx, I don't know where that would be, because I haven't even seen a fluxbox UI in roughly 15 years.
[05:21] <xsmltx> nathan_, tell me please are there any chances to can use a normal resolution with another Linux distro, another envrironment, because in WIndows 10 it worked even with 800x600
[05:22] <ObrienDave> normal resolution????? in this day and age what's normal?
[05:22] <Ben64> 1080p
[05:22] <orlock> Ben64: 16:9 PEASANT!
[05:22] <orlock> 16:10 FTW!
[05:23] <SwedeMike> too bad there are no 4:3 monitors to be had anymore.
[05:23] <orlock> Sure there are
[05:23] <orlock> just not easily
[05:23] <orlock> :-(
[05:23] <Ben64> according to steam, 37.27% of the people use 1920x1080
[05:23] <nathan_> I actually just got a 4:3 monitor from a coworker. it's really great for the kids computer
[05:23] <orlock> Ben64: Those poor people, not knowing any better
[05:24] <nathan_> xsmltx, but yeah, there is no reason at all you want a 800x600 unless your monitor (ie, not likely a tablet) is about as old as fluxbox is.
[05:24] <nathan_> xsmltx, what size is the tablet?
[05:24] <SwedeMike> orlock: or cheaply, or with good resolution. I used to have 1600x1200 19" IPS monitors, two of them. One in portrait mode, one in landscape mode. It was great to run web browser in 1200x1600. But I guess it's been replaced by 16:9 4k monitor instead.
[05:24] <Ben64> 2nd place is 3840x1080, 3rd is 1366x768... all other resolutions not significant usage
[05:24] <orlock> Damn, thats a nice screen
[05:24] <nathan_> that's an absurd screen
[05:24] <orlock> 1600x1200 19"
[05:25] <xsmltx> 10.1" nathan_ acer iconia w700
[05:25] <nathan_> xsmltx, why did you go fluxbox in the first place?
[05:26] <xsmltx> nathan_, I like 800x600 even everything is too big, or at least 1024x768
[05:26] <nathan_> xsmltx, the size of the icons has relativley little to do with teh screen resolution these days
[05:26] <xsmltx> nathan_, because of neat, lightweight, minimal...
[05:26] <ObrienDave> I withdraw my next question *cough*
[05:26] <rahmat> test
[05:27] <xsmltx> nathan_, do you think if I would install lubuntu-core are there any chances to can use 800x600 or 1024x768 ?
[05:28] <nathan_> xsmltx, the problem with this is that a lot of interfaces have no concept of what size an icon should be on the screen. This is more true the more "neat, lightweight, minimal" it is. But gnome shell or unity or (maybe) kde all have support for scaled graphics
[05:28] <nathan_> But the higher the resolution, the more clean the icons look, so it's a good idea to use that, and then just rescale the UI
[05:28] <ObrienDave> i think xfce does also, not sure
[05:29] <nathan_> ObrienDave, now that would be cool.
[05:30] <xsmltx> Oook nathan_ then your best advice is to "rescale the UI" of the fluxbox, there is no other way to use a bigger resolution, is it right, or should I still try to find solutions regarding the resolution?
[05:31] <alkisg> xsmltx: why do you need a xorg.conf, didn't xrandr work?
[05:31] <krusade> hi everyone
[05:31] <alkisg> Hi krusade
[05:32] <xsmltx> alkisg, I've also tried with xrandr and nothing changed...
[05:32] <ObrienDave> nope, no icon scaling for xfce. bummer
[05:32] <alkisg> xsmltx: if you remove xorg.conf and reboot, what is the output of: xrandr
[05:32] <ObrienDave> ran mine down to 800x600
[05:32] <nathan_> xsmltx, yeah, that's the best I got. You could also try xfce. I'd probably go gnome shell or unity though. But you're going to have problems with a lot of programs that expect higher resolution screens and don't even think about lowering it.
[05:34] <krusade> I was repeatedly getting the bsod so I switched to ubuntu. everything was fine for about a week. I put in my usb the other day and now the pc just freezes after I start it up
[05:34] <cfhowlett> krusade, so you did not actually install it?
[05:34] <krusade> I did install ubuntu
[05:34] <DrManhattan> is it possibl to set up ZFS during the filesystem setup in 16.04?
[05:34] <alkisg> krusade: do a memtest from the initial grub screen
[05:35] <xsmltx> alkisg, sorry I am a beginner, should I try to remove at all /etc/X11/xorg.conf, or only the content, restart and then "xrandr" ?
[05:35] <alkisg> krusade: if you have BSOD and freezes, it might be a hardware issue
[05:35] <cfhowlett> krusade, BSOD is probably a harware issue
[05:35] <krusade> I don't get a bsod anymore, I'm on ubuntu
[05:36] <krusade> the pc just freezes
[05:36] <xsmltx> nathan_, not using so many programs, on WIndows almost always I was happy with 800x600 on the same device
[05:36] <nathan_> xsmltx, is it just one program that's clipping off the edge? or is it a lot of them?
[05:36] <cfhowlett> krusade, OK then -- if you actually installed to a USB you selected a very delicate install method.  Why not install to the HDD?
[05:36] <xsmltx> nathan_, everything is to small :)
[05:37] <krusade> I installed using a dvd
[05:37] <xsmltx> All the desktop,is not fitting on the hole display
[05:37] <krusade> I just put in my usb to copy files onto it
[05:37] <cbm2000> My wireless adaptor operates at different txpower depending on what network I connect to. On certain networks I can change it and on others nothing happens when I enter the command. Why is this? What's going on?
[05:37] <cfhowlett> krusade, if you fill that USB it will fail to boot
[05:37] <ObrienDave> does it freeze only when the USB is in?
[05:38] <krusade> freezes all the time
[05:38] <krusade> works fine for like 3 mins then freezes
[05:38] <alkisg> xsmltx: yes
[05:38] <cfhowlett> krusade, how much available space on the USB?
[05:39] <krusade> 32gb
[05:39] <ObrienDave> cbm2000, different frequency bands have different power requirements
[05:39] <alkisg> krusade: do try the memtest for half an hour, and if you see any red marks or crashes, check your pc hardware
[05:40] <krusade> how do I get access to the mem test?
[05:40] <ObrienDave> grub menu advanced
[05:40] <cbm2000> all the networks are 2.4ghz. Does the channel matter?
[05:41] <alkisg> krusade: something like this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/Rvv9w.png
[05:41] <krusade> Cool I'm doing that now
[05:41] <krusade> which mem test do I do?
[05:42] <ObrienDave> cbm2000, not usually within the same band. you might have a channel conflict nearby. try wi-fi analyzer for android phone if you can
[05:42] <alkisg> krusade: the first one
[05:42] <krusade> Cool
[05:43] <krusade> can I watch a movie and check later out schoo
[05:43] <krusade> or do I have to be there*
[05:43] <krusade> watching the scan
[05:43] <alkisg> krusade: you can watch a movie
[05:43] <cbm2000> okay thanks
[05:44] <krusade> it's frozen I think
[05:44] <cfhowlett> krusade, come back in 30 minutes
[05:44] <alkisg> krusade: then it's a hardware issue
[05:44] <krusade> the time is on 1:36
[05:44] <alkisg> krusade: esc should reboot; if it doesn't, it's frozen
[05:44] <krusade> next to the word
[05:45] <alkisg> If it's frozen, it's a hardware issue, so no point in checking operating systems and programs, check the hardware
[05:45] <krusade> mem test 86 the is A rd cross flashing
[05:45] <krusade> red*
[05:46] <cfhowlett> krusade, that would be an alert of failure
[05:46] <krusade> that red cross is flashing and mouse lights up when I move it
[05:46] <krusade> hardware still?
[05:46] <cfhowlett> yep
[05:46] <krusade> ok what do I do with the hardware?
[05:47] <alkisg> Take it to a certified technician
[05:47] <cfhowlett> krusade, replace the ram
[05:47] <alkisg> It's not certain that it is the RAM to blame
[05:47] <alkisg> It might be a number of things; take it to a technician
[05:49] <krusade> it's 11 years old
[05:49] <krusade> with fixing?
[05:49] <krusade> worth*
[05:49] <cfhowlett> krusade, why ask us?  your dime, right?
[05:50] <orlock> krusade: I'd throw you a newer computer from the collection in the bin
[05:50] <alkisg> A technician will tell you how much the repair will cost
[05:50] <orlock> krusade: But i dont think i could make it across the pond
[05:50] <orlock> krusade: Actually, a computer that age - It's quite possible to be cooling related
[05:51] <krusade> someone said hardware I'd just out of place
[05:52] <krusade> remove then put it back in
[05:52] <krusade> heard of that one?
[05:52] <xsmltx> alkisg, before was http://pastebin.com/SYxUK7nk and now after deleting xorg and reboot http://pastebin.com/tyQQbuGx
[05:52] <Hund> Has anyone manage to find a workaround for the Huawei E3372  modem to work in recent versions of Ubuntu?
[05:52] <alkisg> xsmltx: ok, so now you have 1024x768 and you want 800x600?
[05:53] <xsmltx> Do you think I should also delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d to autogenerate itself?
[05:54] <alkisg> xsmltx: xorg.conf.d doesn't do anything in ubuntu
[05:54] <xsmltx> Yes alkisg, would be ok 800x600, but even now, all the scren is not displayed on full screen, is not using all the display 10.1
[05:54] <alkisg> xsmltx: so if you run xrandr -s 800x600, it doesn't take the whole screen either?
[05:54] <xsmltx> alkisg, the only environment I have installed is fluxbox, starting from a minimal command line install of Lubuntu-core mini.iso
[05:55] <ObrienDave> what you're saying the 800x600 is not filling the screen?
[05:55] <alkisg> Some screens only do native resolution and xrandr stretching is needed for others
[05:56] <yancho> hi guys. anyone can offer some tips as to why I'm getting this pls? Err:4 http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 udev amd64 229-4ubuntu11   Hash Sum mismatch. this is done during apt update
[05:56] <xsmltx> xrandr -s 800x600 done, not the whole screen either, indeed now the resolution is bigger, it has changed, but still not the whole screen
[05:56] <alkisg> xsmltx: do you still have a xorg.conf, as it says in your second pastebin?
[05:56] <alkisg> Also, what's the output of this command? lspci -nn -k | grep -A2 VGA
[05:56] <xsmltx> looking now...
[05:56] <cfhowlett> yancho, they happen.  usually self-correcting but you could try switching to a different mirror.
[05:57] <ObrienDave> yancho, usually a repo update error. try a different repo or wait for a few hours
[05:57] <Gorian> Interesting. Why do most disks seem to have both /dev/disk/by-id/scsi*, and /dev/disk/by-id/wwn*? WWN = World Wide Number, like a Unique ID, right? Do only certain disks present that, and thus when they do you get it, but if you don't you still have the scsi id, or what?
[05:57] <xsmltx> alkisg, http://pastebin.com/V3sY7vNr the new xorg
[05:57] <xsmltx> after xrandr -s 800x600
[05:58] <alkisg> xsmltx: so when we say "delete xorg.conf and reboot", what you understand is "use another xorg.conf"?!
[05:58] <yancho> cfhowlett: / ObrienDave how to change the repo ?
[05:58] <chipping> yancho: probably just a temporary mirror sync problem, try again in a few hours - I get the same thing sometimes with my local country mirror
[05:58] <xsmltx> alkisg, I did rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:58] <xsmltx> rm: remove write-protected regular file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'?
[05:58] <cfhowlett> yancho, no no, NOT the repo!
[05:58] <cfhowlett> yancho, you can change the download source, aka the mirror
[05:59] <alkisg> xsmltx: do sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[05:59] <yancho> chipping: how to change it pls?
[05:59] <alkisg> xsmltx: you can't delete system files without sudo
[05:59] <cfhowlett> yancho, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[05:59] <yancho> cfhowlett: yeah i meant mirror - still no coffe :)
[05:59] <chipping> I wouldn't, the problem will very probably correct itself
[05:59] <cfhowlett> this ^^^^
[06:00] <cfhowlett> yancho, in fact, unless you have a crying need for immediate gratification, I would wait a day
[06:00] <yancho> its been 2 days already
[06:00] <cfhowlett> ah, OK then
[06:00] <chipping> yancho: the file to edit is "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:00] <chipping> but do be careful :-)
[06:00] <xsmltx> ok alkisg, trying it now, I whant to remember you that immediately after installing the system from scratch the whole screen was used, but it was everything extremely small
[06:01] <alkisg> xsmltx: that was because you used 1920x1080
[06:01] <cfhowlett> yancho, easiest: go to system > software settings > sources > and run the "select best mirror" utility.
[06:01] <xsmltx> alkisg, this is what I have w700 https://askubuntu.com/questions/263878/ubuntu-for-iconia-w700-6607/294228
[06:01]  * chipping coughs
[06:01] <chipping> I always forget the gui tool :-D
[06:01] <alkisg> xsmltx: if you switch to 800x600 without a xorg.conf, you will either get it full screen, or in a small screen. In the second case, you need to do software stretching with xrandr, if your graphics driver supports it (it's an advanced xrandr parameter). /me waves, later...
[06:02] <xsmltx> done sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg - rebooting
[06:02] <Bray90820> Can someone help me here my surface 3 freezes every time I use a web browser on ubuntu 16.10
[06:03] <yancho> cfhowlett: ill choose the german one then .. its a server
[06:03] <cfhowlett> yancho, check the update status on the first link I sent you.  you want freshest possible
[06:04] <yancho> yeah cfhowlett
[06:09] <xsmltx> Anyone could continue please? I sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d and now both xorg are empty
[06:10] <splashing> anyone here use rig?
[06:10] <splashing> ring,sorry
[06:10] <xsmltx> After deleting both of them the resolution was extremely big again...
[06:50] <kalyan> can i get ubuntu 16.04 or any 16 version rootfs for arm
[06:59] <ornj> I am trying to use ecryptfs-migrate-home but cannot do it to myself while logged in. The system only has one user account.
[06:59] <gebruiker> how do I configure chrome to stop asking for the keychain crap
[06:59] <ornj> How do I encrypt my own home directory?
[07:03] <chipping> ornj: have you tried logging in as root instead of your usual user?
[07:03] <ornj> is that possible with Ubuntu?
[07:03] <dgarana> sudo su -
[07:03] <younder> ornj sudo su makes you root root isn't under /home but as /root
[07:04] <ornj> duh, ty :)
[07:04] <ornj> forgot that; I like sudo + I think Ubuntu's root has no p/w
[07:04] <ornj> so cannot login as root
[07:05] <chipping> create a temporary account (with sudo privs) to do the migration?
[07:05] <Charliee> Hello, question about PPA's  wrt  16.10.  so when i upgrade to 16.10,  do i LOSE all my PPAs?
[07:05] <ornj> chipping>> yes, thank you, I think that's what I'll have to do
[07:05] <ornj> because even with su I am still logged in
[07:06] <chipping> you could maybe set a password for root then boot into single user mode as root
[07:06] <Charliee> and if so, can i reinstall a PPA for 16.04 into 16.10?  (since many/most  programs don't make 16.10  PPA yet)
[07:07] <lqid> anyone upgraded their AWS 14.04 to 16.04? any gotchas?
[07:07] <ornj> prob'ly cld but as I said, I like Ubuntu's security setup + don't want to mess w/ it
[07:07] <Charliee> this PPA issue is the only thing holding me back from 16.10
[07:08] <ornj> i'm too dumb to not probably break somethg important
[07:08] <Keydns> hi
[07:08] <chipping> ornj: the temp user method would certainly be the least likely to go wrong :-)
[07:08] <Keydns> i want to know what command i need before the name of the sh file i want to run is
[07:09] <ornj> sì, molte grazie
[07:09] <ornj> + shd I adduser instead of useradd even if I don't care about home dir + all that stuffs?
[07:10] <Keydns> exit
[07:10] <chipping> Charliee: I haven't tried it myself, but I expect you'd lose the PPAs and need to re-enable them yourself
[07:11] <Charliee> chipping, and what do you do if they only offer PPAs for version 16.04?  are those sometimes compatible with 16.10, if you reinstall them?
[07:12] <chipping> that really depends on the PPA — something like a GTK theme would be fine, something with binaries linked against 16.04 libs would probably not be fine :-)
[07:12] <Charliee> chipping, thanks for explaining  :)    Are there any other 'hiccups' i should be aware of for the upgrade?
[07:14] <chipping> I wouldn't think so from 16.04 to 16.10 — just make sure you read the release notes and cross your fingers before you run do-release-upgrade :-)
[07:18] <Charliee> chipping,   (◔ ‿ ◔)
[07:18] <FinKsu> I have trouble while booting to Ubuntu
[07:23] <FinKsu> My Ubuntu won't boot. It offers me emergency mode or normal. Normal doesn't work and emergency opens "terminal".
[07:23] <FinKsu> I don't know what to do
[07:25] <FinKsu> My Ubuntu won't boot. It offers me emergency mode or normal. Normal doesn't work and emergency opens "terminal".
[07:26] <FinKsu> I'll quit if I can't get help
[07:27] <gebruiker> FinKsu, what if you type init 3
[07:28] <FinKsu> What it does?
[07:29] <gebruiker> FinKsu, yes is it conitnue in booting starting the systemd scripts?
[07:30] <gebruiker> FinKsu, mount -o remount rw /  then executive init 3 to get your system up
[07:30] <FinKsu> Tell me how that works
[07:31] <gebruiker> FinKsu, remount is to get read and write premissions. it is needed for the services to start.
[07:31] <daedeloth> something is seriously messed up with 16.10 dns resolver
[07:31] <daedeloth> did something drastically change on that part?
[07:31] <gebruiker> daedeloth, see the changelog
[07:33] <FinKsu> Does it work if I have Ubuntu on external hard disk?
[07:34] <daedeloth> gebruiker, to be honest I don't know what half of that stuff means, I don't see much changes to the network stack
[07:35] <proxx_> FinKsu it would work but dont expect stunning performance
[07:35] <gebruiker> FinKsu, what changes have you made that could cause this ? Anhyway you need rw on the root and you might need the networking. Then once you have that set up you investigate the logs located in /var/log/ to figure out what is wrong
[07:36] <proxx_> daedeloth not sure what you are saying here, what doesnt work ?
[07:36] <daedeloth> ping mail.catlab.be
[07:36] <daedeloth> ping: mail.catlab.be: Naam of dienst is niet bekend
[07:36] <daedeloth> seems to happen randomly for random domains
[07:37] <daedeloth> I should note that I have a very minimal dnsmasq service runnig
[07:37] <proxx_> daedeloth sounds like upstream issues
[07:37] <daedeloth> yea that is what I would think, but none of the infrastructure changed
[07:37] <daedeloth> 16.10 is the only new element in the stack :)
[07:38] <proxx_> daedeloth what do you have in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[07:38] <daedeloth> nameserver 127.0.0.1
[07:39] <daedeloth> (and the warning-comment ofcourse)
[07:39] <FinKsu> I just installed Unity 8 and tested it.  I saw only black screen, so I turned off my laptop with power button. I started my laptop to Ubuntu again and it was starting but very slowly so I pressed power button and booted to Ubuntu but didn't work.
[07:39] <proxx_> try to replace that with the networks DNS server plz
[07:39] <proxx_> daedeloth tell me if you can resolv queries then
[07:40] <daedeloth> I can resolve all other queries (I'm connected right now), just random sites not
[07:40] <daedeloth> also I only know 8.8.8.8
[07:40] <proxx_> daedeloth no , I mean just put 8.8.8.8 in your resolv.conf and see if that still happens
[07:41] <daedeloth> yep works now
[07:41] <daedeloth> daedeloth@thijs-N551JK:~/Epyc/client.boeke.diekeure.be$ ping mail.catlab.be
[07:41] <daedeloth> PING ghs.l.google.com (172.217.17.115) 56(84) bytes of data.
[07:41] <vinay_> #irc
[07:41] <proxx_> daedeloth so dnsmasq is fucking you it seems
[07:42] <vinay_> hello
[07:42] <daedeloth> yea I guess so
[07:42] <FinKsu> hi
[07:43] <daedeloth> I haven't had any other issues before
[07:43] <proxx_> daedeloth and you tell me it does resolv some queries, those are most likely cached
[07:43] <proxx_> daedeloth so it sorta appears to work
[07:43] <proxx_> daedeloth looks like dnsmasq cant do upstream queries
[07:43] <daedeloth> well I removed all config and only kept this:
[07:43] <daedeloth> address=/local.com/127.0.0.1
[07:44] <daedeloth> (for dnsmasq.conf)
[07:44] <proxx_> daedeloth why do you let dnsmasq resolv queries on localhost ? which dns server do you expect to answer
[07:44] <proxx_> daedeloth the whole idea is that you give it an upstream server
[07:44] <proxx_> set resolv.conf > localhost
[07:45] <proxx_> upstream > dnsmasq > local queries
[07:45] <daedeloth> well I just want to listen to local.com and answer those requests with localhost
[07:46] <daedeloth> project.local.com => local apache server :)
[07:46] <abhishek_> hi
[07:46] <zamba> after upgrading to 16.04 i'm not able to get gnome session fallback running.. i am able to log in, but i don't get the taskbar
[07:46] <zamba> and the keyboard shortcuts
[07:46] <proxx_> daedeloth but which upstream did you give to dnsmasq
[07:47] <daedeloth> I want to resolve those from dhcp
[07:47] <proxx_> You want to set the dnsmasq upstream adress over DHCP ?
[07:48] <daedeloth> well for some reason this worked before :)
[07:48] <proxx_> I would not recommend such setup rly, kinda lot that can go wrong
[07:48] <daedeloth> i guess it fell back to the dhcp provided dns servers
[07:49] <daedeloth> so I should set dnsmasq upstream to 8.8.8.8?
[07:49] <abhigenie92> hi
[07:49] <proxx_> just hammer in the static addr of the DNS server. you know from principle you first need routing before DNS
[07:49] <abhigenie92> I was trying to upgrade form 14.04 to 16.04, using do-release-upgrade.
[07:49] <proxx_> daedeloth yes just give it an upstream server
[07:50] <daedeloth> well if I connect to a network that blocks the google dns server, I'm screwed again
[07:50] <abhigenie92> Sry I meant from 16.04 to 16.10.
[07:50] <proxx_> daedeloth , you could set opendns as second
[07:50] <abhigenie92> I had to stop do-release-upgrade in middle and now I am stuck at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/838203/how-to-fix-resume-a-stopped-do-release-upgrade
[07:50] <daedeloth> hm yea i guess that doesn't really happen anymore
[07:50] <abhigenie92> any idea to fix this?
[07:50] <daedeloth> but I remember times when a provider would only allow usage of their own dns server
[07:51] <daedeloth> oh well I can change it when it happens
[07:51] <proxx_> daedeloth  does it work now
[07:51] <daedeloth> I haven't changed it yet
[07:52] <daedeloth> looking for the option :)
[07:52] <abhigenie92> any ideas guys?
[07:53] <daedeloth> proxx_, well it seems to work, but no way of telling really
[07:53] <daedeloth> brb going to give it a reobot
[07:54] <younder> abhigenie92,  The biggest difference from 14.04 to 16.04.1 is the change from upstart so systemd. So probaly this is causing the problem. Your question is to general for me to give a morespesific answer.
[07:54] <abhigenie92> younder: sry that was a typo. I am upgrading from 16.04 to 16.10
[07:54] <abhigenie92> younder: please check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/838203/how-to-fix-resume-a-stopped-do-release-upgrade
[07:55] <daedeloth> seems to work
[07:55] <daedeloth> thanks :)
[07:55] <proxx_> daedeloth ah thats awesome dude
[07:55] <proxx_> daedeloth well done
[07:56] <abhigenie92> I couldn't any answers online thus asked. :)
[07:57] <daedeloth> I read somewhere that something changed to the resolver so that it now treats the first reply as "the right reply", and I was checking both local dnsmasq as the dhcp provided server? I think before it fell back to the dhcp provided one in case dnsmasq could not give a valid answer
[07:58] <abhigenie92> what should I do?
[07:58] <puff> Good evening.  I'm on 14.04 LTS.  Recently it's been asking me if I want to update, so finally today I said yes... and it said something about depending on apt and it's not there.  Which is wrong, of course, I use apt all the time
[07:59] <daedeloth> apt-get remove apt ? :D
[07:59] <proxx_> daedeloth well it is dirty but you could set a secundairy dns server to point to your dhcp provided addr but its nasty and slow because it will always fallback aka timeout
[08:00] <daedeloth> well I'm mostly wondering why it worked before (and why it's still working on my pc at home)
[08:00] <proxx_> daedeloth but im sure there is some clever hack to work around this , however using fixed upstream dns is perfectly fine
[08:00] <abhigenie92> is doing sudo apt dist-upgrade fine in this case?
[08:00] <proxx_> daedeloth probably worked over fallback dns
[08:00] <daedeloth> ok cool, I'll change it there as well then
[08:01] <proxx_> daedeloth this will surely be faster
[08:01] <abhigenie92> hmmm....
[08:02] <puff> And then I tried to run update-manager from the command-line... it says "Failed to download repository information\nCheck your internet connection."
[08:02] <puff> But then it generates a huge list of software updates, 876MB.
[08:03] <puff> This page https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-04-lts says "Warning: An earlier version of this guide included mention of Ubuntu 14.04 systems. While an upgrade from 14.04 may successfully complete, upgrades between LTS releases are not enabled by default until the first point release, and it is recommended to wait until the 16.04.1 point release to upgrade. On DigitalOcean systems, an upgrad
[08:03] <puff> Ubuntu 14.04 system will be left with an older kernel which may not be upgradeable for some time."
[08:03] <abhigenie92> guess all questions are for the upgrade.
[08:05] <puff> Anyway, I guess my question is a) should I upgrade or wait and b) (assuming answer to a is "yes, upgrade now") how the heck do I get it to upgrade?
[08:05] <puff> Hm, "sudo do-release-upgrade"?
[08:05] <ppf_> puff: the lts upgrade track is out
[08:06] <puff> ppf_: What does that mean?
[08:06] <ppf_> you can upgrade to 16.04
[08:06] <puff> ppf_: Thanks.
[08:06] <puff> ppf_: So should I use sudo do-release-upgrade?
[08:07] <ppf_> yes, that's how you upgrade
[08:07] <puff> ppf_: Thanks.
[08:08] <Guest9283> how is the ubuntu phone
[08:08] <chipping> FYI there's also a GUI for anyone who wants to upgrade but isn't comfortable with the terminal https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[08:10] <puff> Huh... So this page seems to say  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[08:10] <puff> Whoops.
[08:10] <puff> So sudo do-release-upgrade gets me "The required dependency 'apt (>= 1.0.1ubuntu2.13)' is not installed."
[08:11] <puff> chipping: Thanks, actually I'm the other way 'round.  I don't like GUIs.
[08:12] <puff> Hm, but I *do* have apt later than 2.3: ii  apt                                   1.0.1ubuntu2.15         amd64                   commandline package manager
[08:14] <chipping> um 2.3? when I run `apt --version` on 16.04 I get "apt 1.2.12"
[08:15] <cfhowlett> same here
[08:15] <puff> chipping: Really?  When I run "apt --version" on 14.04 I get the standard help message because --version is apparently not a recognized option.
[08:15] <puff> Standard "usage"
[08:16] <cfhowlett> puff, apt was not present in 14.04 --- apt-get was the version
[08:16] <puff> Ah, the first line has the version:  apt 1.0.1ubuntu2 for amd64 compiled on Sep 27 2016 09:05:53
[08:16] <puff> cfhowlett: Ah, okay so... how do I upgrade, then?
[08:16] <Guest9283> is this channel for technical stuff
[08:16] <cfhowlett> puff, I'm late to the party and missed your details
[08:16] <cfhowlett> Guest9283, UBUNTU technical stuff, yes.
[08:17] <daedeloth> proxx_, it's back :(
[08:17] <puff> cfhowlett: 14.04 LTS, it's nudging me to upgrade to 16.04 LTS, finally decided to try it, got an error message about apt version:  "The required dependency 'apt (>= 1.0.1ubuntu2.13)' is not installed."
[08:17] <puff> cfhowlett: Got this from the GUI at first, then again when I tried "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[08:18] <daedeloth> ping mail.google.com
[08:18] <daedeloth> ping: mail.google.com: Naam of dienst is niet bekend
[08:18] <akik> !info apt trusty
[08:18] <cfhowlett> puff, ah.  I think you might have missed an intermediary step: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade           will upgrade 14.04 to newest bits then follow with sudo do-release-upgrade
[08:18] <chipping> puff: I'm not sure what the issue is tbh, you're running do-release-upgrade which should be all you need :-/
[08:18] <cfhowlett> true ^^^\
[08:19] <puff> Okay, so dist-upgrade first, THEN release-upgrade.
[08:19] <puff> You'd think the tools would be smart enough to tell you that...
[08:20] <Charliee> what is the difference between " do-release-upgrade"  and the GUI "Software Updater"?
[08:20] <cfhowlett> Charliee, gui is prettier than the command line equivalent.
[08:20] <proxx_> daedeloth oke once more , do upstream queries work directly
[08:20] <chipping> there shouldn't be any difference Charliee, one just has less typing :-)
[08:20] <daedeloth> wait I might have messed up the config
[08:21] <Charliee> cfhowlett, chipping ,  thanks
[08:21] <daedeloth> is it "server" or "nameserver" in dnsmasq.conf?
[08:21] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[08:21] <proxx_> daedeloth its "nameserver 1.2.3.4"
[08:22] <puff> Okay, so, waiting for the dist upgrade.  I need to sleep soon, is there an option to have ubuntu download all the needed bits, but hold off on actually *doing* anything until I get back?
[08:22] <Charliee> hey, whenever upgrading Kernel, or also now (to 16.10)  it says "not enough free space on /boot"
[08:22] <Charliee> is that ONLY becuase i have Full disk encryption?
[08:22] <Charliee> i.e.  does it give that same warning for NON encrypted disks?
[08:22] <cfhowlett> Charliee, nope.  you need to clear out some kernels
[08:22] <daedeloth> dnsmasq: bad option at line 1 of /etc/dnsmasq.conf
[08:23] <daedeloth>  
[08:23] <daedeloth> http://pastebin.com/mnSgL57g
[08:23] <SwedeMike> Charliee: in order to have encryption, you need unencrypted /boot, ie a separate partition. It seems this partition is now full. You need to clear out older kernels to free up space.
[08:23] <Charliee> cfhowlett, oh, i thought that /boot is a separate partition ONLY on FDE installs?
[08:23] <SwedeMike> Charliee: it's optional otherwise. It's a must if you have FDE install.
[08:24] <Charliee> basically,   this is a BIG hangup, for me recommending Ubuntu to "regular" users
[08:24] <k_sze[work]> I don't understand how `dpkg --set-selections` works.
[08:24] <cfhowlett> over my head, but I do know that standard ubuntu partitioning assigns about a limited amount of space so running out of space is common
[08:24] <k_sze[work]> e.g. if I do `dpkg -l libusb*`
[08:24] <k_sze[work]> I see libusb-1.0.0:amd64
[08:25] <Charliee> (btw, Linux Mint makes it super EASY to delete old kernels)  what is the easiest GUIest way to clear old kernels in ubuntu?
[08:25] <k_sze[work]> but `echo 'libusb-1.0.0:amd64 hold' | sudo dpkg --set-selections` doesn't work.
[08:25] <Ben64> Charliee: sudo apt-get autoremove
[08:25] <proxx_> daedeloth uh I wouldnt know dnsmasq config from the top of my head , would have 2 look
[08:25] <k_sze[work]> dpkg says that the package is not in database
[08:26] <daedeloth> seems to be just "server"
[08:26] <Charliee> is there any way to install that Linux Mint Kernel installer/uninstaller GUI, into Ubuntu?
[08:26] <proxx_> daedeloth thought you asked about resolv.conf :P
[08:26] <Ben64> Charliee: maybe, but it's not supported here
[08:26] <cfhowlett> Charliee, bad idea mixing distros
[08:26] <chipping> Charliee: what you want is to run apt's autoremove --purge feature, but I'm not sure how you'd do that in the GUI
[08:27] <daedeloth> it seems to happen after a while, as if the cache is invalid
[08:27] <Charliee> cfhowlett, i use the Linux Mint USB formatter in Ubuntu, works fine. for example.  (or do you know another GUI for formatting USB sticks in Ubuntu?)
[08:27] <Ben64> Charliee: gparted
[08:27] <cfhowlett> Charliee, gparted
[08:27] <daedeloth> or, no, the cahce is valid, but the cache refresh isn't?
[08:29] <proxx_> daedeloth well if dnsmasq itself is not able to query an upstream server it can only provide cache and will sorta appear to work but not for 'new' names. with nslookup somename.com localhost you can try directly
[08:29] <Charliee> SwedeMike, thanks.  so in the standard default "one click" install (without encryption) :  is  /boot a separate partition?
[08:29] <Ben64> Charliee: no
[08:29] <daedeloth> proxx_, interesting stuff: http://pastebin.com/4MpzqiyY
[08:30] <chipping> Charliee: nope, it's part of the default / partition on my system (completely default 16.04 install)
[08:30] <Charliee> Ben64, oh ok, cool. so then "joe sixpack"  won't have this same headache as me (running out of space on /boot) as long as he doesnt use FDE... hmmm
[08:30] <Ben64> Charliee: encryption is mainly to cause the user headaches
[08:31] <Charliee> sudo apt-get autoremove.... doesnt always work.... i think that only clears out OLDER than the latest 2 versions of Linux kernel??
[08:32] <lostdata> hi all. I need some help. I've tried to resize my root partition using GParted. the computer got shuted down and now I can't access the home.
[08:32] <chipping> it's also possible to configure the unattended-upgrade feature to run a purge after any update (this is not the default behaviour for obvious safety reasons)
[08:32] <Ben64> Charliee: yep, whats the problem with that
[08:32] <Charliee> so it is not working for me. it didnt delete anything
[08:32] <lostdata> There is just two files in the home. I can't recall the extention exactly. it was .h or something.
[08:32] <proxx_> daedeloth what would you expect as a return  ?
[08:32] <cfhowlett> Charliee, this is still 14.04, yes?
[08:32] <lostdata> Gparted is currently checking the partition but I don't know if that helps.
[08:32] <chipping> Charliee: you probably *do* want to keep a couple of previous kernel versions though just in case
[08:32] <Ben64> Charliee: if you only have room for 2 kernels you got a problem
[08:32] <chipping> ^^
[08:33] <Charliee> cfhowlett, 16.04
[08:33] <ducasse> lostdata: restore from backup
[08:33] <lostdata> ducasse: There's none.:(
[08:33] <daedeloth> xx_, well I gues it would be 172.217.17.51, not 127.0.0.1?
[08:33] <daedeloth> oh wrong notify
[08:33] <cfhowlett> Charliee, dpkg -l |grep linux-header*   should return only a handful.  if more, you need to manually delete
[08:33] <daedeloth> proxx_
[08:34] <chipping> Charliee: I have 4 kernels in my /boot using 197M — out of curiosity what does `du -sh /boot` show on your system?
[08:34] <Charliee> chipping, Ben64 ,  System Monitor shows my /boot partition is 102 used out of 247MB total
[08:34] <Ben64> Charliee: really small boot partition
[08:34] <Charliee> sorry, 133 used (102 available)
[08:34] <chipping> wow, 250MB partition? that seems very small
[08:35] <lostdata> It was at resizing stage when this happened.
[08:35] <Charliee> yes, it is weird:  another partition "/boot/efi" is 4MB used out of 535MB total
[08:35] <Charliee> that was the default install, when i clicked "LUKS FDE"
[08:36] <ducasse> !recover | lostdata
[08:36] <proxx_> daedeloth I think we lost each other , that lookup seems fine right ?
[08:36] <lostdata> The important data is some text files. I don't think they can be recovered proparly.
[08:36] <daedeloth> I don't understand the output then :)
[08:36] <lostdata> They are code. They need to be exact
[08:37] <ducasse> lostdata: there is little else you can do, tbh
[08:37] <lostdata> :(
[08:37] <Charliee> chipping, that command shows me only 5 files that start with  "linux-header"
[08:38] <proxx_> daedeloth look we want to be sure of 2 things , first , does the upstream DNS server give the expected result. second can you get the same result from your dns server running on localhost  , you can do 'nslookup somehost.com localhost' to check if DNSmasq gives you the expected result
[08:38] <Charliee> du -sh /boot   ------>   128M	/boot
[08:38] <Ben64> Charliee: yep, your boot partition is small. you should run autoremove after every dist-upgrade
[08:39] <daedeloth> proxx_, ok, I'll wait until I get false responses again and run those commands
[08:39] <Charliee> Ben64,  i do
[08:39] <Ben64> Charliee: problem solved
[08:39] <Charliee> nope
[08:39] <Ben64> how nope
[08:39] <Charliee> Ben64,  i still gotta manually delete kernels,   that leaves the latest 2
[08:39] <Ben64> what's bad about that
[08:39] <Ben64> it's good to have a backup
[08:39] <LetsEncrypt> Could anybody please recommend a softwar versioning system for Ubuntu? I was looking into Git and I like it but Git is rather made for teams. I need a Destop Versioning System for documents, texts and also for development.
[08:40] <Charliee> cuz it is saying that  102MB is not enough free space on /boot,  to install 16.10
[08:40] <LetsEncrypt> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_Encrypt
[08:40] <Ben64> Charliee: why do you need 16.10
[08:41] <proxx_> daedeloth ill be around if i have time, we could look further into it when you have some results :)
[08:41] <Charliee> ben64,  i thought 16.10 is for the cool kids
[08:41] <Flannel> LetsEncrypt: Mercurial or SVN, the latter requires a server, but you can host that server locally.
[08:41] <daedeloth> proxx_, thanks for the help!
[08:41] <Ben64> Charliee: the real cool kids stay on LTS versions. 16.10 loses support July 2017. 16.04 loses support April 2021
[08:41] <LetsEncrypt> Flannel: And Mercurial is appropriate for single users?
[08:42] <Flannel> LetsEncrypt: absolutely.
[08:42] <LetsEncrypt> Flannel: Thx
[08:42] <Charliee> Ben64, by 2021, the cool kids will be living inside their VR goggles  :)
[08:43] <lostdata> the issue seems to be blocks claimed from multiple places or something.
[08:43] <Charliee> Ben64, plus i just like to learn, i have always done LTS, before, and i like how 16.10 lets you need less PPA's and manual installs of programs
[08:44] <Flannel> Charliee: If it says you need 120MB in /boot to upgrade, it's probably telling you the truth.  So you'll need to find 120MB in /boot
[08:44] <chipping> Charliee: I suspect your only real option here is going to be booting from something like a gparted livecd and resizing that /boot partition :-(
[08:44] <Charliee> Flannel, thanks, yes, i'll just delete the 2nd to newest kernel in Synaptic
[08:45] <Flannel> Charliee: right, that's what I'd recommend.  Keep the most-recent-known-good to upgrade with.
[08:45] <Charliee> chipping, hmmmm, but i would first have to shrink the main LUKS partition, which sounds like a PITA
[08:46] <chipping> indeed
[08:46] <Charliee> another question:    one of the main reasons, why i dont do a custom partitioning during install---- is that it is a PITA to enable auto TRIMming on LUKS  partitions
[08:47] <Charliee> however, does the "one click" LUKS default install ENABLE this auto TRIMming (for SSDs)?
[08:48] <Charliee> thanks for helping me out , btw , guys
[08:48] <LetsEncrypt> Flannel: I was having a look at Mercurial. It is also distributed like Git. Then I might as well stay with Git.
[08:48] <Flannel> LetsEncrypt: SVN would be the non-distributed one.
[08:49] <LetsEncrypt> Flannel: Thx. Any recommendation?
[08:50] <Flannel> LetsEncrypt: for what?  SVN?  I think there's only one server (the official one).  Although who knows.  There's a number of frontends, some graphical, etc.  But for what you're doing, the CLI one is probably sufficient.  Once you've got your files setup, it's just commits whenever you want to make another rev
[08:51] <LetsEncrypt> Flannel: Yes, for SVN. I need something really simple and for single, desktop use only.
[08:52] <Charliee> does the Ubuntu default LUKS install do all this automatically:   https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Specialties#Discard.2FTRIM_support_for_solid_state_drives_.28SSD.29
[08:53] <Charliee> or are there better (easier) instructions on how to manually automate TRIM on LUKS partitions??
[08:54] <chipping> LetsEncrypt: if you want something entirely offline for a single user there's always RCS https://www.gnu.org/software/rcs/
[08:55] <lostdata> Gparted prints such lines:  Illegal block number passed to ext2fs_test_block_bitmap #3601002943 for multiply claimed block map
[08:55] <chipping> fossil also has a focus on local features (although it is still distributed and designed for teams) http://fossil-scm.org/
[08:55] <LetsEncrypt> chipping: thx
[08:56] <chipping> LetsEncrypt: honestly I'd advise you to look past the "distributed" features of mercurial or git and use them purely locally — they are by far the most popular free version control systems and you stand a much better chance of being able to get help
[08:57] <chipping> good luck finding someone who still remembers how to use rcs in 2016 :-)
[08:57] <daedeloth> proxx_, I'm not sure how to read this
[08:57] <daedeloth> http://pastebin.com/922Wd675
[08:58] <daedeloth> follow up:
[08:58] <daedeloth> http://pastebin.com/wquZm8Ta
[08:59] <LetsEncrypt> chipping: I will think abou it. Thx
[09:02] <alkisg> daedeloth: what's the output of this? grep -r . /run/resolvconf/interface
[09:02] <daedeloth> http://pastebin.com/ndTNUrSG
[09:03] <daedeloth> that 53 looks weird I guess?
[09:03] <alkisg> I don't see any "real" dns servers, where are those defined?
[09:04] <daedeloth> dnsmasq is in between
[09:04] <alkisg> It should have a file there for resolvconf
[09:04] <daedeloth> http://pastebin.com/6cUPrdLB
[09:04] <ub500> hi all
[09:04] <ub500> anyone here
[09:04] <daedeloth> alkisg, didn't get that resolvconf thing
[09:05] <alkisg> daedeloth: ah, you're trying to run the real dnsmasq without disabling the ubuntu-spawned one?
[09:05] <ub500> Error connecting to IMAP server getting this with squirrel mail
[09:05] <alkisg> daedeloth: ps aux|grep dnsmasq ==>?
[09:06] <daedeloth> http://pastebin.com/uvvHUFTa
[09:06] <daedeloth> why is that there :D
[09:06] <alkisg> daedeloth: long sad story, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/959037
[09:07] <alkisg> daedeloth: see some instructions to disable it, there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
[09:07] <daedeloth> bit strange, didn't have this before 16.10
[09:07] <alkisg> Ubuntu was trying to make a better dns client and ended up breaking local dns servers
[09:07] <daedeloth> but thanks, I'll do some reading
[09:08] <alkisg> So the end result is, you can either disable the real dnsmasq, or the ubuntu spawned one, or make them cooperate, but by default, they won't work properly.
[09:08] <daedeloth> can't I just throw in my local address in the ubuntu spawned one? all I want is local.com domains to point to localhost
[09:09] <alkisg> I think that started around 14.04, so you might have had some workaround if you didn't see it; there are many ways to disable the ubuntu one
[09:09] <alkisg> ...why don't you put those in /etc/hosts then? why use a real dns server just for that?
[09:09] <m1dnight_> Im looking for an asy way to configure sendmail (if that's needed) to send mails to my gmail. Just to daily send some info to my gmail.
[09:09] <m1dnight_> I just can't find an easy to follow tutorial for sendmail.
[09:10] <daedeloth> well lazyness really, just wanted subdomains to automatically point to localhosts as well :)
[09:10] <m1dnight_> Any good pointers to good explanations?
[09:10] <chipping> "easy way to configure sendmail" is a hilarious concept :-D
[09:10] <chipping> m1dnight_: have you looked into msmtp?
[09:10] <m1dnight_> No I have not. Will do! :)
[09:10] <alkisg> daedeloth: I don't think the network-manager spawned dnsmasq supported configuration files or parameters
[09:11] <daedeloth> I'll just add the local.com domains to /etc/hosts
[09:11] <daedeloth> and purge dnsmasq
[09:11] <chipping> m1dnight_: I think it'll do what you want - it'll pretend to be a real local server but actually forward everything to (e.g. Gmail's) your SMTP server - and happily it's not insane to configure like sendmail is :-)
[09:11] <daedeloth> brb reboot
[09:19] <pko_> Hi, anyone having a guide for installing Adobe Air in 16.10?
[09:21] <brunch875> the nvidia driver available to download in their website is 364.12(beta) but  my nvidia-settings reports 367.57 to be installed. Can someone un-confuse me?
[09:21] <brunch875> which one is actually more recent?
[09:22] <pko_> brunch 367.57 is more recent
[09:36] <PKO1> Hi, I'm trying to have Adobe Air to work on 16.10, and need help. It was working on 16.04.
[09:39] <Clichee> helo mei amerikan frends
[09:39] <Clichee> 7quote KILL %2 :&3
[09:39] <Pingula> my firefox keep updating itself to 46
[09:39] <Pingula> 49*
[09:39] <Pingula> how do i stop it??
[09:40] <Clichee> okay then uninstall it
[09:40] <tux_> anyone get pepper flash plugin working in Chromium on 16.10 ?
[09:40] <Clichee> yes go on www.keinvirus.net
[09:41] <Clichee> kann hier irgendjemand deutsch
[09:41] <Clichee> loooooooooooooooooooooos
[09:41] <Clichee> hallo owen
[09:41] <Clichee> fuck you owen
[09:41] <ducasse> Clichee: stop that, please
[09:41] <SwedeMike> !de | Clichee
[09:42] <tux_> there's an ubuntu-de channel, go join that
[09:42] <evanvarvell> i just read abobe air is unsupported in linux......but they do have an sdk version
[09:42] <Clichee> mkay
[09:43] <evanvarvell> watching matrix reborn?
[09:43] <PKO1> evanvarvell: I know, but 2.6 worked in 16.04.
[09:45] <multifractal> I'm trying to install OpenCV2 from the script on the Ubuntu website. It says 'Installation failed. Aborting package creation.'
[09:50] <evanvarvell> ok.......i have a confession ......it has been awhile since i have programed...... i might be able to write small insignificant programs......????
[09:50] <joelio> multifractal: not sure what documentation you're referring to but opencv is in the xenial package repos
[09:50] <joelio> multifractal: doubtful you need to compile from upstream unless you're doing something esoteric, perhaps adding some GPU support or something?
[09:50] <multifractal> joelio I'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenCV
[09:51] <multifractal> Can I apt-get OpenCV2?
[09:51] <joelio> multifractal: what version of ubuntu are you on.. answer is yes if on 16.04 or later
[09:51] <Juz> Hi, I am searching for some help. I have done a reinstall of 16.10 on my Lenovo laptop. Since the install there has been something funny going on. I have searched the internet, but have not found anything yet. When I select shutdown from the power menu, or the dash, I get the log out/lock dialog. I cannot work out what is going well on. I can shutdown from the terminal, but that is the only way. Also, despite selecting 'do nothing' on closin
[09:51] <multifractal> joelio 14.04
[09:52] <joelio> multifractal: actually, it's available there too http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=trusty&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=opencv
[09:52] <joelio> multifractal: but versions may not be latest and greatest...
[09:53] <multifractal> joelio That's OK. What's the difference between all of those packages? Is this the standard one? libopencv-core2.4
[09:53] <joelio> multifractal: depends what you're doing, they're bindings for the library iv various different languages
[09:53] <joelio> s/iv/in/
[09:54] <ChewbaK[m]> @juz the event "power button press"  seem to be badly linked
[09:54] <multifractal> joelio I want the opencv2 python interface
[09:55] <joelio> multifractal: python-opencv
[09:55] <joelio> version 2.4.8
[09:55] <multifractal> joelio I did that -- still `ImportError: No module named 'cv2'`
[09:55] <linocisco> Ben64, hi
[09:55] <Juz> @ChewbaK[m] is there a way to change or correct this bad link?
[09:55] <linocisco> your solution didn't fix me today
[09:56] <linocisco> Ben64, your solution didn't fix me today
[09:56] <linocisco> Ben64, shutdown took time again
[09:57] <joelio> multifractal: and that's from the system python you're using? (not anohter, via pyenv or whatever?)
[09:58] <multifractal> joelio: Whoops you're right it was in Anaconda Python. But when I use `python2` (2.7.6), `import cv2` gives me `libdc1394 error: Failed to initialize libdc1394`
[09:58] <juanonymous> Does issuing a command lsb_release returns the version of your system?
[09:59] <joelio> multifractal: wow, 1394 is firewire afair, maybe you just need to install that - libdc1394-22-dev
[09:59] <joelio> multifractal: or the master package libdc1394-22
[09:59] <joelio> or both :)
[10:00] <evanvarvell> i have a bad flu
[10:00] <multifractal> Thanks joelio, your help is very much appreciated. I actually found this solution online which appears to work: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12689304/ctypes-error-libdc1394-error-failed-to-initialize-libdc1394
[10:00] <multifractal> `sudo ln /dev/null /dev/raw1394`
[10:01] <evanvarvell> come over and watch me sweat
[10:01] <joelio> multifractal: great stuff, glad you got it :)
[10:01] <multifractal> joelio: Just out of curiosity, that fix...
[10:01] <Kartagis> I've made a clean install of 16.04 and there is no bluetooth. help?
[10:02] <multifractal> It makes a shortcut from this 'null' device to the firewire device?
[10:02] <evanvarvell> i don't have firewire
[10:02] <multifractal> evanvarvell: Phew well that's a load off my mind.
[10:02] <joelio> multifractal: yea, it maybe expective device nodes to exists and isn't handled gracefully in the library, so shortcutting by symlinking to /dev/null makes it pass
[10:03] <multifractal> joelio: Cool thanks very much. Laters.
[10:03] <UrsaTempest> Uh, there's command to check if an application compatible with Wine, right? What's the command?
[10:03] <joelio> multifractal: no worries, hope the CV goes well!
[10:03] <evanvarvell> what do the green letters mean?
[10:04] <UrsaTempest> A friend of mine want me to reinstall his OS, the problem is he run Windows XP SP3, and his hardware is, err. Rather low-spec
[10:04] <UrsaTempest> 250GB HDD, at most 1GB RAM...
[10:04] <ducasse> !wine | UrsaTempest
[10:04] <UrsaTempest> So I'm considering Lubuntu, but he is kinda wedded to Office 2005, and I can't be available 100% of time. So yeah.
[10:05] <younder> UrsaTempest, You would want 4 Gb for ubuntu, perhaps XUbuntu would work?
[10:05] <UrsaTempest> !AppDB Office 2005
[10:05] <evanvarvell> the command be at wine comptibility list at wine website?
[10:05] <UrsaTempest> Darn
[10:05] <UrsaTempest> Sorry
[10:05] <UrsaTempest> Right, gonna check now.
[10:05] <brunch875> UrsaTempest: For checking compatibility you can google 'winehq applicationname'
[10:05] <brunch875> that's what I do
[10:05] <UrsaTempest> Thanks!
[10:05] <UrsaTempest> ...you're not bot, right brunch875?
[10:05] <brunch875> not that I know :)
[10:06] <evanvarvell> i have windows installed
[10:06] <Charliee> UrsaTempest, have you tried LibreOffice as a replacement/
[10:07] <evanvarvell> on a 500 gb hdd
[10:07] <UrsaTempest>  /I/ can use Libreoffice and so on and so forth.
[10:07] <UrsaTempest> My friends not necessarily so.
[10:07] <Charliee> why not?
[10:07] <UrsaTempest> Rather new.
[10:07] <UrsaTempest> And I don't want to be the one that say 'You now can't use your previous software, deal with it'
[10:07] <brunch875> Charliee: You'd be surprised on how hard some people cling to some specific windows programs
[10:08] <UrsaTempest> I mean, it's one thing if he comes to me asking for Linux, it's another if I recommend it to him.
[10:08] <bencc> is there a way to tell that a directory is tmpfs dir?
[10:08] <evanvarvell> i can use both
[10:08] <Charliee> also, WPS office is purportedly more "compatible" with M$ office, (but it's less Libre than libreoffice)
[10:09] <Charliee> brunch875, yes, that is why it is out job, to "carry" they over to the next thing to "cling" to,   :)
[10:09] <Charliee> *our
[10:10] <UrsaTempest> I don't get paid enough for /that/
[10:10] <evanvarvell> looking up ursa in the dictionary
[10:10]  * UrsaTempest grumbles.
[10:10] <ducasse> evanvarvell: 'bear'. stay on topic, please.
[10:10] <Charliee> bencc,    df -T
[10:10] <lunatix79> tell your friend he should use office online instead
[10:11] <UrsaTempest> We don't live on first world, where internet is plentiful and everywhere you know :/
[10:11] <UrsaTempest> Oh well.
[10:11] <UrsaTempest> I guess that means he'll have to keep the OS.
[10:11] <evanvarvell> constellations- the great bear and the little bear
[10:12] <bencc> Charliee: thanks
[10:12] <UrsaTempest> Major and Minor. It's offtopic, however. Anyway... where was I? I swear I wanted to ask something more related...
[10:12] <evanvarvell> ursa a she-bear
[10:13] <Charliee> UrsaTempest, yes,  so try LibreOffice, then WPS,  and if those don't work, fallback to M$ Office online
[10:13] <Charliee> also, google docs online
[10:13] <UrsaTempest> Eh.
[10:13] <UrsaTempest> Too much works.
[10:13]  * UrsaTempest rolls.
[10:13] <Charliee> is it just M$ Word  or other office apps?
[10:14] <evanvarvell> i have works 2004 suite
[10:14] <ducasse> UrsaTempest: an office package as old as that might work well, look it up. also, check out crosswire or whatever they call it.
[10:14] <UrsaTempest> I doubt he can afford it.
[10:14] <joelio> I'd definitely replace the OS, XP is well EOL
[10:14] <evanvarvell> crosswire is a bible scource?
[10:15] <UrsaTempest> Crossover, I think.
[10:15] <joelio> If you're only doing standard word processing and not complex macros, there's no reason libreoffice shouldn't work (imho)
[10:15] <Charliee> joelio,  Yup
[10:15] <DrManhattan> Bible scource?
[10:17] <evanvarvell> a collection of software......bibles commentaries bible dictionaries etc etc
[10:17] <UrsaTempest> Yeah, but it's one thing if he ask, it's another if I recommend, etc.
[10:17] <ducasse> UrsaTempest: https://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=31
[10:17] <joelio> it's annoying actually, as at least here in the UK, kids have been indoctrinated on MS office products and they think they always need MS Office because it's 'what they know'
[10:18] <UrsaTempest> That means I'll be responsible teaching him LibreOffice, and frankly I don't want to bother doing that.
[10:18] <UrsaTempest> Thanks ducasse
[10:18] <joelio> when in reality they don't even know how to properly set a semantic structure in a document, so this false ideology of ms office it kinda moot as they can't/don't use the tools properly anyway :)
[10:19] <evanvarvell> its a reference the comes with bible ssoftware
[10:19] <brunch875> UrsaTempest: the "rating" you see is how well the application plays on wine. Mind the version too
[10:19] <brunch875> As a rule of thumb, the older the program, the more time wine has had to make it work
[10:19] <ducasse> UrsaTempest: there are links to excel, word etc lower on the page
[10:20] <UrsaTempest> Hmm, yeah.
[10:20] <UrsaTempest> I'll need at least Word, Excel, Access to works.
[10:20] <brunch875> Ironically I've had wine run some applications better than in windows
[10:21] <Charliee> UrsaTempest, you can always do BOTH OS's.  i.e. give him ubuntu on  a USB drive or SSD.  (that is the most "comfortable" way to learn anyway.   or a 2nd laptop)
[10:21] <evanvarvell> well there is a driver disk as well embedded on the harddrive.....wanting to copy it and make a duplisate cds or dvds
[10:21] <brunch875> I would definitely install ubuntu alongside windows until he's comfortable wiping it
[10:21] <UrsaTempest> I doubt Ubuntu won't be used much then char
[10:21] <UrsaTempest> Charliee:
[10:21] <joelio> brunch875: I remeber reading an artice way back in the late 90's/early 00's where a comany use wine to replace their 3.1 install for linux+wine and had massive perf benefits - happens a lot :)
[10:22] <UrsaTempest> Wine served most of my purpose.
[10:22] <UrsaTempest> It can't run some of visual novel, sadly. But it's not huge priority, so no biggie.
[10:22] <brunch875> Wow... to think wine is older than I am
[10:22]  * joelio feels old
[10:23]  * ducasse too
[10:23] <UrsaTempest> I'll just hope the dev re-release them on Steam so I can but those legally.
[10:23] <Charliee> UrsaTempest, or put Windows on a USB, and Ubuntu on the main HDD
[10:23] <Charliee> UrsaTempest,  what is "visual novel"?
[10:24] <UrsaTempest> Those are fine solution if you /want/ to learn Wine, but if you don't...
[10:24] <UrsaTempest> Text with static pictures that changes.
[10:24] <evanvarvell> a story book?
[10:24] <brunch875> like an interactive comic
[10:25] <joelio> brunch875: Wine was started on July 4 1993 - I'd be 11 then, lol
[10:25] <evanvarvell> i have a camera as well
[10:25] <UrsaTempest> Basically yeah.
[10:25] <Charliee> UrsaTempest,  i have switched a couple  people to Linux,  so i know how hard it is
[10:26] <UrsaTempest> ~
[10:27] <brunch875> Making people switch to ubuntu is much easier if you show them fancy stuff like being able to install VLC from the software center
[10:27] <Charliee> bencc,   grc df -Tm  #even nicer
[10:27] <brunch875> and how a lot of the stuff works out of the box without needing to install drivers or whatever
[10:27] <UrsaTempest> He... isn't exactly good computer user, he has both GOM and VLC for example...
[10:27] <Kartagis> I've made a clean install of 16.04 and there is no bluetooth. help?
[10:28] <gebruiker> anyone having issues with chrome asking for keychain password?
[10:29] <Charliee> one downside of VLC, it can't auto-change the Refresh Rate to the Source Video (like MPC-HC can in Windows)... or can it?
[10:29] <Charliee> anyone know how to do it?
[10:29] <UrsaTempest> Hmm. Nah, I never have your  issue Kartagis. You have googled that right?
[10:29] <Kartagis> not really
[10:29] <joelio> Charliee: you wouldn't change the framerate of the source as it's set? You'd interpolate frames between
[10:30] <joelio> during playback
[10:30] <UrsaTempest> Try it first? Seems nobody active here have encountered that problem.
[10:30] <Charliee> joelio, change the refresh rate of the monitor/TV
[10:30] <Charliee> *to* the source rate
[10:30] <evanvarvell> be back in 1/5 hour
[10:30] <brunch875> Kartagis: what do you mean by no bluetooth?
[10:30] <evanvarvell> be back in 1/2 hour
[10:31] <UrsaTempest> Oh right!
[10:31] <Kartagis> brunch875: no bluetooth icon in settings
[10:31] <UrsaTempest> I think the second or third semester there'l be Visual Basic class. Any idea what's Linux implementation of it?
[10:32] <joelio> Mono
[10:32] <Charliee> joelio, here is how to do it in Windows--- how do you do this in VLC?    search this guide for "23.976hz"    http://www.avsforum.com/forum/26-home-theater-computers/1357375-advanced-mpc-hc-setup-guide.html
[10:32] <Ben64> Charliee: you probably can't
[10:32] <joelio> yuk, 23.976Hz, I blame the yanks :)
[10:33] <Charliee> Ben64, why not?
[10:33] <Charliee> or is there another player besides VLC, which can do it?
[10:33] <Ben64> doubtful
[10:33] <joelio> UrsaTempest: it's a shame visual basic being tought, would have though there's more relevant languages to get started in
[10:33] <joelio> Charliee: it's an X thing
[10:34] <UrsaTempest> Yeah, I'm surprised to.
[10:34] <Charliee> joelio, what is the best language to start in
[10:34] <UrsaTempest> I expect Java or C++
[10:34] <UrsaTempest> I expect Java or C++ /after/ Visual Basic.
[10:34] <UrsaTempest> Dunno why.
[10:34] <Charliee> i've heard python or GO is the best language to learn?
[10:34] <UrsaTempest> Err, turns out they taught Java and/or C++ after Visual Basic
[10:34] <UrsaTempest> DUnno why
[10:34] <bazhang> !ot
[10:35] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[10:35] <joelio> well, depends on the goals of the teaching.. python is a good start, it's used quite a lot in many science backgrounds. Then go onto C or lower level stuff learning about system internals
[10:35] <xsmltx> Hi, tell me please is there any way to enable right click on a touch screen device with Lubunut-core minimal installation and Fluxbox the only installed environment? Thank you.
[10:35] <Charliee>  is my question about ubuntu video players offtopic?
[10:36] <bazhang> !players | Charliee
[10:36] <joelio> bazhang: please read the context first
[10:36] <joelio> it's a valid question
[10:36] <bazhang> for touch try #ubuntu-touch please
[10:37] <Charliee> thanks for the list of video players--- which one auto-changes the refresh rate of the TV?   :)
[10:37] <Ben64> Charliee: none
[10:37] <bazhang> Charliee, none of them
[10:37] <bazhang> joelio, its gone far afield from ubuntu support
[10:37] <Charliee> hmmmm, even with tweaking/hacks?
[10:38] <bazhang> joelio, ##programming is more suttable
[10:38] <Ben64> you can change the refresh rate yourself if you're that invested in it
[10:38] <joelio> bazhang: fine, I'll get on with work - helping in here becomes less fun everyday
[10:38] <Charliee> so if i wanted to pay to get that patch into VLC, how would i go about doing that?  don't they have Bounties for that kinda stuff?
[10:39] <bazhang> fun is for the chat channels joelio
[10:39] <Charliee> what is the best Bounty website?
[10:39] <bazhang> Charliee, visit their channel and ask
[10:39] <joelio> bazhang: ok, you've just lost me on free support in this channel.. I don't come here to be told it's not fun.
[10:39] <ducasse> Charliee: it's difficult/impossible to do on x, is what they're saying
[10:40] <Ben64> Charliee: it's not very useful either
[10:40] <bazhang> Charliee, use alis to check for the vlc channel about bounties
[10:40] <bazhang> !alis | Charliee
[10:41] <Charliee> bazhang, i know vlc has a channel, thanks..  but i was also wondering about bounties in general
[10:41] <bazhang> Charliee, I would investigate the mailing liss for such
[10:41] <bazhang> and lists
[10:41] <iochesonome> hi1
[10:42] <bazhang> !lists
[10:42] <Charliee> Ben64,  don't knock it 'til you try it.  it is pretty cool, especially with these new TV's that have 96hz refresh rates!
[10:43] <Ben64> Charliee: i have tried it, it's not really beneficial
[10:49] <brunch875> Is it possible to use unity8 with nvidia propietary drivers yet?
[10:49] <brunch875> My laptop kind of hangs when I try to log into it
[10:53] <ducasse> brunch875: afaik, no.
[10:55] <brunch875> ducasse: What's missing? According to the nvidia site it supports the EGL extensions needed by mir
[10:55] <brunch875> I thought that's why it didn't work back then
[10:56] <brainwash> brunch875: I suggest checking the logs
[10:56] <ducasse> brunch875: no idea, although i know intel has refused to add mir-specific patches to their drivers. might be a similar situation with nvidia.
[10:56] <brainwash> they may tell you why it fails
[10:59] <brunch875> okay I'll try to log into it now. The logs will be in /var/log/somethingsomethingmir, right?
[10:59] <ducasse> brunch875: dm logs may also be useful
[10:59] <evanvarvell> who are you people?
[11:00] <pandaadb> Hi - I believe an update to the chrome browser that happened on the 12-10-2016 has broken netflix and is causing tearing in video streams. Is there a way to roll that back for test? Sadly there are no changelogs on the web, so i don't know if that is in fact the cause
[11:00] <ppf_> evanvarvell: we're the incumbents of #ubuntu
[11:01] <brunch875> thanks ducasse, I'll keep an eye on it :)
[11:01] <ppf_> pandaadb: try a different browser maybe
[11:01] <ppf_> google doesn't ship old versions of the browser, and reasonably so
[11:01] <pandaadb> ppf_, firefox requires silverlight to play netflix
[11:01] <ppf_> pandaadb: it shouldn't. netflix is html5
[11:02] <pandaadb> okay - that might point to me having to update firefox possibly
[11:02] <pandaadb> because when i go to netflix and press play, it downloads an exe
[11:02] <evanvarvell> what makes anyone think i want to do a comic?
[11:03] <brunch875> is it safe to wipe the logs so it's cleaner to read them afterwarsd?
[11:03] <ppf_> brunch875: sure
[11:03] <ppf_> brunch875: maybe look into logrotate
[11:03] <evanvarvell> silverlight is a free plugin isn't it?
[11:04] <ppf_> no
[11:04] <ppf_> no in the OSS meaning of 'free'
[11:04] <brunch875> silverlight is flash's evil twin sister from microsoft
[11:04] <ppf_> it's also a windows plugin
[11:04] <brunch875> as if flash wasn't bad enough
[11:04] <evanvarvell> whats the cost of silverlight?
[11:04] <ppf_> it doesn't cost money
[11:04] <pandaadb> ppf_, mhm no, it says I am on the latest version of firefox, and it prompts me to install MS Silverlight Plug-in
[11:05] <ppf_> pandaadb: then something is wrong with your firefox
[11:05] <ppf_> cleared it's cache already?
[11:05]  * pandaadb tries :) 
[11:05] <ppf_> netflix is html5, otherwise chrome couldn't play it either
[11:06] <pandaadb> yes though i am reading an article saying that ff is only supporting that since version 49
[11:06] <ppf_> possible
[11:06]  * ppf_ is not a firefox user
[11:07] <brainwash> firefox needs to download an extra drm module
[11:07] <brainwash> not sure if that happens automatically
[11:07] <pandaadb> brainwash, I had that with amazon video, and then it worked for amazon
[11:07] <evanvarvell> i am unsure of my location.....people seem stuckup here?
[11:07] <pandaadb> after clearing the cache it still wants me to install siverlight
[11:07] <ppf_> hm, can't really help you with the firefox issue then
[11:08] <pandaadb> really odd, thanks anyway
[11:08] <pandaadb> i'll do some more reading, maybe i'll find the issue
[11:09] <leeyaa> hello
[11:09] <evanvarvell> hi
[11:09] <leeyaa> any idea why would initramfs fail on 14.04 LTS when trying to do apt-get upgrade ? https://bpaste.net/show/d155a128cdd9
[11:10] <leeyaa> server is pretty much default
[11:10] <leeyaa> no 3rd party repositories
[11:10] <leeyaa> i need to upgrade it to 16.04 LTS, but for some reason cant even run apt-get upgrade
[11:11] <evanvarvell> have you read the documentation?
[11:12] <leeyaa> evanvarvell: i looked for similar problems. cant find anything related
[11:12] <Ben64> leeyaa: out of space in /boot ?
[11:12] <evanvarvell> initialize ram file sysytem???/
[11:12] <lordcirth> evanvarvell, this is #Ubuntu support channel, did you want help?
[11:13] <leeyaa> Ben64: dont thing so. / has 600+MB
[11:13] <leeyaa> think*
[11:13] <leeyaa> and /usr is on a separate directory
[11:13] <leeyaa> erm drive*
[11:13] <ppf_> is /boot on the same partition?
[11:13] <leeyaa> ppf_: it is
[11:14] <lordcirth> I'm not sure if there are any logs for the initramfs builder besides /var/log/apt/term.log
[11:14] <leeyaa> thats the layout https://bpaste.net/show/e908fa3cb5b6
[11:14] <lordcirth> leeyaa, your / is only 2GB?
[11:15] <leeyaa> lordcirth: yes, i keep /usr and /var/cache/apt on separate volumes usually.
[11:15] <leeyaa> besides, the initramfs fails, not downloading packages or extracting
[11:15] <ppf_> did you install any non-standard packages?
[11:15] <leeyaa> ppf_: no, default repos
[11:16] <leeyaa> it has just mysql, pretty basic headless node
[11:16] <Ben64> leeyaa: what kernel you running currently
[11:17] <leeyaa> Ben64: its 3.13.0-44-generic
[11:17] <Ben64> so you haven't updated in quite a while
[11:17] <leeyaa> i have the same problem on other similar nodes
[11:17] <leeyaa> Ben64: yes, but it is lts, i dont think thats relevant
[11:17] <Ben64> it's very relevant
[11:17] <Ben64> you still need to do updates on LTS
[11:18] <lordcirth> You're supposed to do updates still
[11:18] <leeyaa> thats what im doing atm.
[11:18] <leeyaa> so how to get pass this error ?
[11:18] <ppf_> leeyaa: maybe you should run a dist-upgrade
[11:18] <Ben64> current version is 3.13.0-98
[11:18] <leeyaa> ok lets try, its a test node anywya
[11:18] <ppf_> the fuse hook belongs to fuse, not initramfs
[11:19] <leeyaa> Ben64: downloading atm
[11:19] <phenom> I can't catch a break. I'm spinning wheels squashing one bug and creating two more.
[11:19] <leeyaa> i actually forgot i should do dist-upgrade for kernel upgrades
[11:19] <lordcirth> leeyaa, since you want to be up to date for a release upgrade, you should always do a dist-upgrade first
[11:19] <leeyaa> lordcirth: yeah
[11:19] <leeyaa> nope same thing
[11:19] <Ben64> but you should be doing dist-upgrade regularly anyway
[11:19] <ppf_> a packaging error is not really out of the question, i don't think people test upgrade over that long distances
[11:20] <leeyaa> https://bpaste.net/show/3a9a6c071efb
[11:20] <lordcirth> phenom, 99 bugs in the code, fix one bug, pass it around, 101 little bugs in the code...
[11:20] <ppf_> dist-upgrade is not about kernel upgrades
[11:20] <phenom> What is the MOST supported Thinkpad? Because canonical and Lenovo saw fit to exclude only my x220 from official certification.
[11:20] <Ben64> ppf_: yes it is
[11:20] <lordcirth> Kernel upgrades are the main thing it does.  There's a few others.
[11:20] <leeyaa> ppf_: main thing it does is to handle kernel changes
[11:21] <leeyaa> but it is not limited to
[11:21] <ppf_> Ben64: dist-upgrades upgrades packages that add new dependencies and kernels
[11:21] <ppf_> leeyaa: was that paste from dist-upgrade?
[11:21] <leeyaa> ppf_: yes, thats from dist-upgrade. i can give the full log if that will help
[11:22] <kristhian> how do i know if there is a mail server installed in the system?
[11:22] <kristhian> what command to use?
[11:22] <leeyaa> kristhian: look for something listening on mail ports
[11:23] <mauroacs> Bom Dia
[11:23] <leeyaa> ppf_: last time i tried to debug this i got to a log that says some hook fails, but cant figure out why
[11:23] <phenom> lordcirth, Right. Unfortunately mine is a critical one. I'm stuck reverting to 14.04 for now it seems.
[11:23] <lordcirth> !pt | mauroacs
[11:23] <evanvarvell> as a maintainer of a system.....don't you get mail frequently?
[11:24] <phenom> Updated the Firmware for my SSD last night and now instead of my system freezing,, it hard resets.
[11:25] <phenom> I'll try to reinstall 16.04 one more time.
[11:25] <leeyaa> ppf_: i think this is the step that fails https://bpaste.net/show/ba0b980873d5
[11:25] <phenom> Does anyone actualy recommend tweaking Trim settings 16.04 onward? I know it executes trim weekly but would you all consider that enough?
[11:26] <Ben64> leeyaa: you could try to chmod 000 or delete the fuse file, but i'm unsure how that would affect boot
[11:27] <leeyaa> Ben64: i can do that on the test nodes, but without knowing the real affect it is probably not a good idea
[11:27] <lordcirth> phenom, why wouldn't it be enough?  Do you regularly make and delete a lot of files a day?
[11:27] <Ben64> leeyaa: it won't let the initram mount fuse stuff
[11:28] <leeyaa> Ben64: what is fuse used for ?
[11:28] <Ben64> stuff like when you plug an external drive in and it automounts
[11:28] <lordcirth> !fuse | leeyaa
[11:28] <leeyaa> i dont need that
[11:28] <leeyaa> its a headless vm
[11:28] <lordcirth> also sshfs and stuff
[11:28] <Ben64> in theory sure
[11:29] <leeyaa> hm
[11:29] <leeyaa> well ill try it on the test node, see if the upgrade passes
[11:29] <Ben64> could also disable the fuse file for a bit, do upgrades, then re-enable and try to re-build initramfs manually
[11:29] <phenom> lordcirth, no but there is something seemingly going on related to it. Appears running trim at boot and daily kept my system from freezing, so I tried to upgrade the FW on my POS Samdung EVO 840 and now it hard crashes.
[11:29] <leeyaa> and can reinstall fuse later or something
[11:29] <leeyaa> exactly
[11:29] <phenom> I tried a memory test etc.
[11:29] <phenom> 6 hrs
[11:29] <lordcirth> phenom, my 840 Evo works perfectly.
[11:29] <phenom> !trim
[11:30] <phenom> lordcirth, On 16.04?
[11:30] <Ben64> leeyaa: "sudo update-initramfs -u" will attempt to build it
[11:30] <phenom> can you check the FW version please?
[11:30] <brunch875> /var/log/auth.log:                                                                     http://paste.ubuntu.com/23338207/
[11:30] <lordcirth> phenom, and everything else I've ever run it on
[11:30] <brunch875> /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/23338209/
[11:30] <kristhian> leeyaa, 25, 465, 587 <- this are all mail ports?
[11:30] <kristhian> am i correct?
[11:30] <brunch875> that's how unity8 fails to launch
[11:30] <phenom> lordcirth, It worked great on 14.04
[11:30] <phenom> can you check the FW version please? sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda
[11:31] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[11:31] <phenom> I am now on EXT0DB6Q
[11:31] <lordcirth> phenom, Firmware Revision:  EXT0CB6Q
[11:31] <lordcirth> D -> C
[11:32] <phenom> You may have an update, I don't recommend it.
[11:32] <lordcirth> Which is newer? horrible numbering scheme
[11:32] <phenom> pffft lol
[11:32] <phenom> I just upgraded mine
[11:32] <phenom> last night so I'd imagine mine is.
[11:32] <lordcirth> Ah ok
[11:32] <leeyaa> kristhian: partially yes, there are more
[11:33] <kristhian> ok
[11:33] <phenom> There were issues with ours. If you try to use discard, it won't let you boot.
[11:33] <lordcirth> I remember I saw the article about needing the firmware update to avoid the bug, so I got the tool, and turned out it was already patched
[11:33] <phenom> among other things.
[11:33] <leeyaa> thanks Ben64 will let you know in a bit if that works out
[11:33] <lordcirth> Came from the store with the fix.
[11:33] <lordcirth> phenom, iirc I used discard on btrfs on it before.
[11:34] <phenom> lordcirth, I used discard too on 14.04, but oon 16.04 it will prevent the system from booting.
[11:34] <lordcirth> Interesting.  I will avoid that then.
[11:34] <phenom> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1338706
[11:34] <phenom> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fstrim/+bug/1449005
[11:34] <lordcirth> Anyway, I have no real complaints about the drive.  It was a good deal.
[11:34] <phenom> I've read the whole bug tracker and I can't figure out exactly if we were good to upgrade or what.
[11:35] <kristhian> btw leeyaa if it says that it is filtered and not opened?
[11:35] <kristhian> what are the chances that i could use the service hence i am shell user only
[11:35] <kristhian> since
[11:35] <Ben64> filtered = blocked
[11:35] <kristhian> so meaning i could not use that at all
[11:35] <leeyaa> Ben64: it is not just the fuse hook, /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/ntfs_3g fails too ;p
[11:36] <brainwash> brunch875: next step would be to check launchpad for existing bug reports which mention that error message
[11:36] <Ben64> leeyaa: similar
[11:36] <phenom> lordcirth, It was working greatt for me too, that samdung comment wasn't entirely warranted, but how they treated this bug is.
[11:36] <brainwash> brunch875: also, I think you should head over to #ubuntu-mir and/or #ubuntu-unity
[11:36] <phenom> Instead of samsung fixing it, they removed the tool to upgrade the SSD
[11:36] <brunch875> brainwash: I take it the most relevant line would be "Failed to find platform for current system"
[11:36] <brunch875> yes, indeed :)
[11:37] <phenom> there was a linux "magician" terminal client.
[11:37] <brainwash> brunch875: I think that this line is the important one too
[11:38] <brunch875> thanks guys! I'll continue at it after lunch
[11:38] <phenom> lordcirth, You didn't tweak any trim settings yet correct?
[11:38] <leeyaa> Ben64: well i moved the whole hooks dir lel
[11:38] <leeyaa> at least it can do the upgrade now
[11:38] <lordcirth> phenom, not on this install, no
[11:39] <ppf_> leeyaa: that sounds dangerous
[11:39] <leeyaa> ppf_: its a test server
[11:39] <leeyaa> ppf_: i have no idea how to go around this otherwise
[11:39] <lordcirth> phenom, I think back then I had to download a freedos usb stick to upgrade firmware
[11:40] <leeyaa> ppf_: im not even sure if it is a packaging bug or not
[11:40] <phenom> lordcirth, ah yea. I may try that way just in case the update failed or some mess.
[11:41] <leeyaa> it is silly really, ive upgraded lots of 12.04 to next releases up to 16.04 and now 14.04 to 16.04 give me headaches -.-
[11:41] <ppf_> leeyaa: i don't really know. these hooks don't really do that much
[11:42] <ppf_> copying files and creating symlinks mostly
[11:43] <leeyaa> ppf_: i might report it later if i get the time
[11:43] <Ben64> i don't think it's a bug
[11:43] <leeyaa> cause its lts - you should be able to upgrade
[11:44] <Ben64> i have plenty of 14.04 systems that work fine
[11:44] <phenom> brb, thx lordcirth
[11:44] <ppf_> you should debug the problem further than
[11:44] <ppf_> *then
[11:44] <phenom> lordcirth, please stay away from the update. :)
[11:44] <leeyaa> Ben64: me too
[11:45] <leeyaa> only a few sql nodes give me troubles, all are vmware based
[11:45] <ppf_> leeyaa: hoping dpkg doesn't eat stdou/stderr: in all the hook scripts, add a set -x
[11:45] <ppf_> (maybe keep a backup around)
[11:46] <leeyaa> i might just provision new nodes. we need to upgrade prod servers and i cant relay on hacky patches
[11:46] <ppf_> leeyaa: that's not a fix, it's a way to debug what is really going wrong
[11:47] <leeyaa> could vm being vmware guest be related to this ?
[11:47] <ppf_> i think it's unlikely
[11:48] <ppf_> i'm curious about this, though
[11:48] <ppf_> reinstall the hooks, add the -x, rerun update-initramfs
[11:48] <ppf_> i gotta go give a lecture though, back in a while
[11:49] <leeyaa> see you around
[11:50] <leeyaa> ill debug the hooks later
[11:50] <leeyaa> now just need to upgrade this node and test how long does mysql_upgrade take on a 100GB myisam db lel
[12:00] <farhad> could somebody say me, how can i fix this problem:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23338298/
[12:01] <hateball> !details | farhad
[12:01] <leeyaa> Ben64: btw after upgrade update-initramfs -u passed
[12:01] <leeyaa> it recreated hooks directory
[12:01] <leeyaa> i think its a bug
[12:01] <ducasse> farhad: are you using sudo?
[12:03] <farhad> thanks for your feedbaks, i installed timeshift in ubuntu14.0.4 on my vps.when i command timeshift i encounter this error.
[12:04] <Pingula> how do istop firefox from automatically updating itself??
[12:04] <leeyaa> the vm became unbootable tho rofl ;p
[12:07] <Guest89181> ciao
[12:07] <gry> try #ubuntu-it Guest89181
[12:07] <lordcirth> Pingula, apt is updating firefox, it doesn't do it itself on Linux.
[12:07] <farhad> leeyaa: so do you have any idea that i have restore point on my vps?
[12:08] <leeyaa> farhad: pardon ?
[12:08] <leeyaa> im not following sorry
[12:08] <proxx_> Pingula  this is not windows where everything updates itself n stuff, you can exclude it from the package manager
[12:09] <proxx_> Pingula http://askubuntu.com/questions/18654/how-to-prevent-updating-of-a-specific-package maybe this can help you
[12:09] <Bent0> So I added this IP to ufw: ufw deny from IPADDR, but I still see nginx requests coming through. Am I missing anything>
[12:10] <stetschne> hi#
[12:10] <lordcirth> Pingula, but why wouldn't you want firefox to update?  You will miss security patches
[12:11] <stetschne> hi robb_nl
[12:11] <stetschne> hi stuivi
[12:11] <proxx_> ^yeah i would agree that disabling updates is a bad idea
[12:12] <stetschne> im nett
[12:12] <stetschne> right?
[12:13] <stetschne> hi jude__
[12:15] <NoCode_> What the hell, man. For the last 12 times I've logged in successfully from the log-in screen, about 8 other times the log-in screen will not log in. It will freeze resulting in me logging into a tty, and rebooting my system. It's a relatively new install.
[12:15] <NoCode_> The login screen will just stall after putting my password in.
[12:16] <lordcirth> NoCode_, check dmesg
[12:17] <proxx_> * and xorg logs
[12:18] <Guest34011> hello all, if I have a string looks like <IP><![CDATA[{ "lock" : false, "value" : "10.10.10.1" }]]></IP>              how do I just replace 10.10.10.1 with another ip value?
[12:18] <belgianguy> hi, I'm still on 15.10 due to my ATI card being unsupported by the new AMD driver, has the radeon driver improved much by now?
[12:18] <belgianguy> (eg could I compare it to fglrx)
[12:21] <lordcirth> Guest34011, you could use sed
[12:21] <lordcirth> belgianguy, radeon works fine but will be slower.
[12:22] <belgianguy> lordcirth: is there some sort of statistics available? this is my current card: http://pastebin.com/tf3BngmZ it's rather old
[12:22] <belgianguy> and atm it overheats quite easily, I'm just worried that with radeon it would overheat even sooner
[12:23] <NoCode_> http://pastebin.com/ZqvNSbBf -- dmesg, not sure where to look for the xorg log.
[12:24] <proxx_> we got a miner
[12:25] <lordcirth> belgianguy, https://forum.manjaro.org/t/benchmark-dota-2-gcn1-1-fglrx-vs-radeon/7391  This is all I can find
[12:25] <lordcirth> NoCode_, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:26] <belgianguy> thanks lordcirth, I'll have a look :)
[12:26] <ImGuest> Hey.. I accidentally run "rm -r /lib/mobudules".. So, now I lost USB and network, how I could recover my system? PS2 keyboard works so I can access terminal
[12:27] <lordcirth> ImGuest, um, well, you could try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/57682/find-and-reinstall-packages-with-corrupted-files-without-breaking-anything#392326
[12:28] <lordcirth> Or 'aptitude reinstall ?installed' and wait forever
[12:29] <NoCode_> lordcirth, Thanks. Here's my xorg log. http://pastebin.com/mZ5hqxXG
[12:30] <g3n> jest ktoś z pl??
[12:31] <NoCode_> !pl
[12:33] <lunatix79> !de
[12:33] <lordcirth> NoCode_, are you mining on this card, as proxx_ thought?
[12:33] <belgianguy> lordcirth: is it an idea to switch to radeon under 15.10 and compare their performance?
[12:33] <NoCode_> lordcirth, Not sure what you mean.
[12:34] <belgianguy> (so I can still revert to fglrx should the delta be too big-
[12:34] <belgianguy> )
[12:34] <lordcirth> belgianguy, you could, but sometimes people have problems switching away from fglrx.  Also 15.10 is EOL, so package installs may not work.
[12:34] <lordcirth> NoCode_, then that's a no.
[12:35] <belgianguy> lordcirth: I know, I've found myself in the root shell before :)
[12:35] <xsmltx> Hi, tell me please is there any way to enable right click to use it on the touch screen device with Lubunut-core minimal installation and Fluxbox the only installed environment? I've been trying with easystroke, but no result yet. Thank you.
[12:37] <NoCode_> lordcirth, I use the CPU governor to increase power for the lowlatency kernel.
[12:37] <NoCode_> lordcirth, Is that what you're talking about?
[12:37] <lordcirth> NoCode_, why?
[12:37] <lordcirth> NoCode_, no, but that could also cause problems
[12:37] <NoCode_> Audio production.
[12:38] <lordcirth> NoCode_, try switching back to stock and see if the problem is fixed
[12:39] <g3n> I need help. It does not work for me "boxes" on xubuntu
[12:39] <NoCode_> stock kernel? That's not really feasible for audio. It usually happens when my screen locks.
[12:39] <proxx_> lordcirth in that cased i meant 'minor' :P
[12:39] <funkyheadgirl> what speed do you recomment when burning iso file into dvd
[12:40] <proxx_> slow n low 4x ?
[12:40] <NoCode_> But yeah, I'll log into the regular kernel, and see if I can log back in.
[12:40] <funkyheadgirl> should i choose x3 if i can?
[12:40] <funkyheadgirl> does it matter
[12:40] <NoCode_> It seems to only happen when the screen locks, so I'm not sure what's going on.
[12:41] <jiik> @funkyheadgirl i don't think it matters, and do you really need to burn a dvd?
[12:42] <jiik> just put it on a USB drive?
[12:42] <funkyheadgirl> this medieval computer cant boot from usb
[12:42] <farhad> I am trying to use snapper on Ubuntu and I am getting this error: Creating config failed (/sbin/chsnap not installed). <-- any idea?
[12:43] <jiik> you haven't installed snapper?
[12:44] <jiik> the only thing speed should affect is how fast the burn happens
[12:44] <farhad> jiik: Iv installed it. but when i want configure it by snapper -c root create-config /   i encounter to this err.
[12:44] <farhad> i have ext4
[12:45] <gebruiker> how do I remove chrome config from my $HOME dir? there is no .chrome
[12:46] <chipping> gebruiker: have a look in ~/.local/share ?
[12:47] <chipping> also ~/.config
[12:47] <gebruiker> chipping, found it in .config
[12:47] <chipping> good ol' XDG specs :-)
[12:48] <chipping> still better than windows though I guess
[12:48] <gebruiker> been messing with the fonts. A lot of webpages still render differently on propreitary operating systems
[12:50] <ohmy> hello
[12:51] <ohmy> is there anything like suse studio for ubuntu ? i'm looking for a way to customize my ubuntu before its installation,  most of the time i need to create a clean virtual machine to test my applications
[12:52] <iadept> ls
[12:52] <iadept> ll
[12:53] <iadept> ll
[12:53] <iadept> ls
[12:53] <iadept> quit
[12:56] <mindfart> lol
[12:59] <ducasse> ohmy: for creating vm's you could use ubuntu-vm-builder?
[13:00] <ImGuest> lordcirth: hmm.. debsums says that "Can't locate file File/Find.pm", anyone knows which package provides that module?
[13:01] <ducasse> ImGuest: perl-modules-5.22
[13:01] <ducasse> (on xenial, that is)
[13:02] <Qlawy> Guys how to disable that ugly grub-prober? I have dynamic number of discs connected with FC/iSCSI and when I update kernel some of them are well... not available, however grub-prober tries to search for any fs bla bla, which results in hang of apt
[13:02] <ImGuest> ducasse: I'm on trusty and I have perl-modules-5.18.2
[13:03] <Qlawy> is there any way to disable it? yes i have GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=True in /etc/default/grub
[13:04] <chipping> ohmy: have you looked into cobbler? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cobbler/Preseed
[13:05] <chipping> or you could use something like ansible to configure/provision the vms after the first boot
[13:06] <ducasse> ImGuest: then i'm guessing it will be there, look with apt-file.
[13:08] <ducasse> Qlawy: purge os-prober package?
[13:09] <Qlawy> ducasse: hmm...
[13:11] <Qlawy> ducasse: great but one thing... E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. ;)
[13:11] <FinalX> then try what it says? :P
[13:11] <Qlawy> FinalX: great idea but it will ... hang apt
[13:11] <Qlawy> beacuse of this stupid os prober ;)
[13:12] <ducasse> Qlawy: you are removing that.
[13:12] <Qlawy> so to fix problem of os prober I need to remove it but I cannot remove it because apt failed on linux kernel, where os-prober is problematic
[13:12] <ducasse> Qlawy: remove it with dpkg
[13:12] <Qlawy> when I interrupt it it refuses to do anything until I do ...
[13:12] <FinalX> dpkg --purge <package>
[13:12] <Qlawy> ok, will try
[13:15] <Qlawy> geezz... I removed os-prober but still /usr/sbin/grub-probe is run :/
[13:19] <Sven_vB> when a program in the process list is defunct, is that exactly the same as a zombie in the process management sense?
[13:20] <ohmy> ducasse: thank you  so much thats really what i need, thanks thanks thanks
[13:20] <ronaldsmazitis> how to disable sleep when closing lid using openbox
[13:20] <ducasse> ohmy: yw :)
[13:23] <V7> Hey everyone :) !
[13:23] <ronaldsmazitis> how to disable sleep when closing lid using openbox
[13:32] <edgimar> Can anybody tell me whether snap packages are updated using some kind of rsync/rdiff mechanism?  If not it seems like updating snaps can require a lot more bandwidth than updating debs requires.
[13:34] <maroon> Is here somewhere a C programming channel?
[13:35] <hpvs17e> !alis
[13:35] <ducasse> edgimar: snap uses deltas to upgrade
[13:36] <brainwash> !snap
[13:38] <maroon> is here a C Developer who could give some hints for the gcc library?
[13:38] <edgimar> ducasse: ok thanks -- that's a relief...
[13:38] <ducasse> edgimar: it's also transactional, so you can rollback updates.
[13:39] <edgimar> yeah, I noticed that, which is convenient.
[13:39] <edgimar> Doesn't seem like there's a huge number of packages available yet in snap format, however.
[13:52] <lugarius> is there a way to hide join/quit messages?
[13:53] <Pici> !quietwebchat | lugarius
[13:53] <lugarius> Thank god
[13:53] <lugarius> badum tss
[13:54] <lugarius> you have a preinstalled message wor this lmao
[13:54] <maroon> How can I add a $PATH variable to find in an C programm iosteam library in and as well the other ones?
[13:55] <Guest59793> Hi. Please help me with me. Upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10 https://imgur.com/gallery/O1zYs. This happened with me on second reboot. After first rebbot it was fine.
[13:55] <Guest59793> I can't use my PC I need to get work done urgently. Please mk fly suggest.
[13:56] <lugarius> i had not that problem... seems your system is broken...
[13:56] <Guest59793> I haven't touched the fstab.
[13:56] <GrandPa-G> are there any systemd unitfile experts/helpers available for a question?
[13:56] <lugarius> try startx as command instead of exit
[13:56] <Qlawy> write journalctl -xb to check what failed
[13:56] <Qlawy> lugarius: it will not work ;)
[13:57] <lugarius> worth a try,
[13:57] <lugarius> i am not a pro
[13:57] <lugarius> but i want help
[13:57] <fumblehool> Hi all, I am having some trouble with a corrupted micro sd card. Can anyone suggest something?
[13:58] <GrandPa-G> I am confused as to how to configure a service so that it will automatically restart if the first service is stopped or restarted.
[13:59] <lugarius> fumblehool corrupted sdcards are bad, do you need to recover files?
[13:59] <GrandPa-G> I have After and PartOf in second service configuration referencing first service.
[13:59] <lugarius> eles just format it
[13:59] <cerion> fumblehool: throw it to the bin ?
[13:59] <lugarius> cerion nah
[14:00] <lugarius> reformating with gparted helps everytime
[14:00] <fumblehool> @lugarius I don't want to recover data. I just want to format it but I am not able to do this in gparted
[14:00] <lugarius> huh, thats strange
[14:01] <lugarius> than cerion might be right
[14:01] <fumblehool> @cerion I want to give a shot at reviving it
[14:01] <lugarius> wait
[14:01] <lugarius> maybe you could make a new partition table
[14:03] <fumblehool> @lugarius Creating a new partition table option in gparted gives me following error, " Libparted Bug Found! Input/Output error during read on /dev/sdb"
[14:04] <fumblehool> Is it time to bury this sd card?
[14:04] <lugarius> ok, then your card or your cardrader is broken
[14:04] <younder> If you had used  etckeeper you could just revert to a version that works..
[14:04] <lugarius> try formating it with an android device, another reader, or put a super-magnet on your card
[14:05] <fumblehool> @lugarius I have checked, the cardreader is working fine. Let me try it in some android device
[14:07] <lugarius> cool
[14:10] <lugarius> if all this isnt working.... ist finaly broken, sorry
[14:15] <GrandPa-G> Sorry to reask, but help on systemd?
[14:16] <NoImNotNineVolt> GrandPa-G: good question. i'd be curious to hear the answer myself.
[14:16] <NoImNotNineVolt> i've only written trivial unit files myself.
[14:17] <evanescode> GrandPa-G: what do you mean by "first" service
[14:17] <evanescode> init?
[14:17] <GrandPa-G> I can get the second service to stop ok. Just can't get it restarted.
[14:17] <evanescode> or just a dependency chain?
[14:17] <evanescode> or autorestart?
[14:17] <GrandPa-G> Say I have two services, foo and bar. I want to have bar stop and or start if foo ever stops and or starts.
[14:18] <GrandPa-G> bar has to wait until foo is running so a autorestart won't work.
[14:20] <GrandPa-G> The problem really appears at midnight when foo has to be stopped temporarily to do a logrotate. That stops bar, but bar doesn't seem to start when the rotate sequence restart foo.
[14:21] <NoImNotNineVolt> isn't this what targets are for?
[14:21] <maroon> test.c:1:20: fatal error: iostream: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[14:21] <maroon> compilation terminated.
[14:21] <NoImNotNineVolt> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/36043964/how-to-restart-a-service-if-its-dependent-service-is-restarted
[14:21] <NoImNotNineVolt> that seems relevant
[14:21] <maroon> #include <iostream>
[14:22] <NoImNotNineVolt> maroon: localized error messages might limit your ability to get help.
[14:22] <GrandPa-G> NoImNotNineVolt: that is exactly what I have, doesn't seem to work.
[14:22] <NoImNotNineVolt> that's... odd.
[14:23] <for{}> how do i disable a key?
[14:23] <for{}> i use ubuntu 16.10
[14:23] <NoImNotNineVolt> 'disable a key' seems ambiguous.
[14:23] <for{}> how do i disable any key
[14:24] <NoImNotNineVolt> a key on your keyboard? an encryption key?
[14:24] <for{}> lol
[14:24] <for{}> a key on my keyboard
[14:24] <debkad> hello, i'm following some links to embed some fonts into a pdf, this is one of them http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13912615/how-can-one-embed-a-font-into-a-pdf-with-free-linux-command-line-tools , i got this error: **** Unable to open the initial device, quitting.
[14:24] <NoImNotNineVolt> you could break the switch underneath the key cap.
[14:25] <for{}> i dont want anything hackish
[14:25] <for{}> is there a tool i could install to disable any key i want
[14:25] <debkad> no
[14:25] <NoImNotNineVolt> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=842970
[14:25] <debkad> you can hack into some config files
[14:25] <NoImNotNineVolt> for{}: first hit on google
[14:26] <for{}> firt hit on google is from 2008
[14:26] <NoImNotNineVolt> and?
[14:26] <NoImNotNineVolt> my ubuntu still has an xev and xmodmap.
[14:27] <for{}> there are so many people in need, NoImNotNineVolt
[14:27] <debkad> for{}: those command are very useful, xev ...
[14:27] <for{}> u could help some of them
[14:27] <NoImNotNineVolt> i agree, but i'm not sure how disabling a key on your keyboard will help provide for them.
[14:27] <for{}> guys, i dont want hackish
[14:27] <DevAntoine> hi
[14:27] <NoImNotNineVolt> it's not clear what is hackish about this solution.
[14:27] <proxx_> "there is no gui , ITS A HACK"
[14:28] <for{}> im sick and tired of shell scripts
[14:28] <proxx_> got o windowz
[14:28] <debkad> anyway, this is another link i triyed http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=35165
[14:28] <DevAntoine> I've got an issue since I've rebooted, I dunno what's happening but I've got no more eth0 interface, when I plug a RJ it's not detected, I dunno what to do
[14:28] <NoImNotNineVolt> those aren't shell scripts.
[14:28] <NoImNotNineVolt> they're binaries.
[14:28] <debkad> the error was: Unrecoverable error: stackunderflow in .setdistillerparams
[14:29] <NoImNotNineVolt> additionally, if you "dont [sic] want hackish", then why are you asking to disable a key on your keyboard? isn't that inherently hackish?
[14:29] <proxx_> ^
[14:29] <debkad> or buy an old keyboard :D
[14:30] <for{}> i tried xmodmap before
[14:30] <for{}> the problem is you have to run xmodmap every five seconds
[14:30] <debkad> ot good?
[14:31] <debkad> ah
[14:31] <for{}> yes, it works but its hackish
[14:31] <for{}> dont u ever forget: many people in need!
[14:33] <debkad> for{}: you can add the xmodmap command in your startup :))
[14:33] <for{}> yes, i could make a shell script that runs xmodmap every 5 secs and add it in my startup
[14:33] <bermraj> /set weechat.look.prefix_action "right"
[14:34] <bermraj> /set weechat.look.prefix_action "left"
[14:34] <bermraj> /set weechat.look.prefix_action "right"
[14:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> it's not clear why your keymap would be reverting every 5 seconds.
[14:34] <k1l> for{}: every user in here asking for help thinks that his issue is the most urgent one and that everybody needs that to be fixed. so that claims dont help
[14:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> are you rebooting every 5 seconds?
[14:34] <k1l> bermraj: wrong window
[14:34] <for{}> or even better i could make a systemd service and a systemd timer
[14:34] <for{}> im a nix guru, what else can i say? :D
[14:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> i think this might be a symptom of a much larger problem.
[14:35] <NoImNotNineVolt> you need to figure out what's clobbering your keymaps.
[14:35] <for{}> NoImNotNineVolt, people are starving in Africa
[14:35] <k1l> for{}: what key is it? and why should it be reverted every 5 seconds?
[14:35] <NoImNotNineVolt> for{}: that may be offtopic.
[14:35] <k1l> for{}: if you just want to troll with fake support and offtopic #ubuntu is the wrong channel
[14:35] <for{}> k1l, because it is reenabled every time if not
[14:36] <for{}> k1l, maybe you should read NoImNotNineVolt's replies
[14:36] <NoImNotNineVolt> if you don't find the xmodmap solution acceptable [for apparently unstated reasons], you'll likely run into the same problem if you find an alternate solution, since it seems something is clobbering your keymaps.
[14:38] <TvL2386> hi guys, I'm investigating to setup an ubuntu-16.04 HA fileserver and am looking into glusterfs. I'm also reading about ceph but do you guys have any recommendations?
[14:42] <Glenaja> Connecting a Logitech USB-headset to a laptop with Ubuntu 14.04 I get: (0572:1400) Conexant Systems (Rockwell), Inc.  as device. Normally I should get: (046d:0a38) Logitech, Inc. Headset H340. What possible causes there might be?
[14:43] <NoImNotNineVolt> what is "normally"?
[14:43] <Glenaja> On another Ubuntu 14.04 laptop.
[14:43] <NoImNotNineVolt> hm.
[14:44] <k1l> Glenaja: run a "sudo update-usbiids" and try again
[14:44] <k1l> only one i "sudo update-usbids"
[14:45] <Glenaja> Didn't change the device.
[14:45] <NoImNotNineVolt> i'm trying to look up the product id.
[14:45] <k1l> did you reconnect the device afterwards?
[14:46] <NoImNotNineVolt> and i can't. weird.
[14:46] <Glenaja> I did not, laptop is currently on a different location.
[14:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> most products under vendor 0572 appear to be webcams, tv tuners, modems..
[14:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> are you sure that 0572:1400 isn't just another usb device on that system? :P
[14:48] <mrabhi> I upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10 when I got this on second reboot https://paste.ubuntu.com/23338930/
[14:48] <Glenaja> I'm 100% sure. Already did a connect/disconnect and the device dissapears/reappears in the list.
[14:48] <mrabhi> Please help if possible, I need to do some work on my machine urgently
[14:49] <NoImNotNineVolt> that's very strange. i'm not sure how to further troubleshoot that issue.
[14:50] <mrabhi> I think it is fstab but it seems not to be. What do I do?
[14:50] <NoImNotNineVolt> firing up wireshark to do a capture on your usb might yield additional information.
[14:51] <Glenaja> I want to add the following: In the soundsettings->Output devices I 'normally' get 'Analog Output: Logitech USB Headset H340'. Now I get 'Speakers: USB Audio'
[14:51] <mrabhi> I canNOT boot my machine https://paste.ubuntu.com/23338930/.
[14:51] <SuperSeriousCat> Linking a paste with a link to the real paste xD Genious
[14:51] <NoImNotNineVolt> yo dawg, i heard u like pastes
[14:51] <k1l> mrabhi: did you change something at partiitons or disks? do you use encryption?
[14:51] <mrabhi> k1l, no
[14:52] <NoImNotNineVolt> did you change from bios to efi?
[14:52] <mrabhi> SuperSeriousCat, sry let me know if any more info is needed.
[14:53] <k1l> mrabhi: can you compare the fstab entries with the blkid output?
[14:54] <V7> Is there anyone who use irssi ?
[14:55] <V7> here *
[14:55] <lugarius> not me
[14:56] <k1l> V7: better ask the support question instead of all 1800 users say yes and no :)
[14:56] <debkad> me too
[14:57] <V7> k1l: yeah xD
[14:57] <c1bor9> hello
[15:00]  * NoImNotNineVolt is on irssi
[15:00] <NoImNotNineVolt> though they have an irc channel of their own, also.
[15:00]  * shivers moved from irssi to weechat
[15:01] <NoImNotNineVolt> too many features :P
[15:06] <mewecoffee> mrabhi: weird...
[15:08] <jacalope> Hello all. I'm having a kernel panic after returning from suspend/hibernate on my (k)ubuntu laptop. Which channel/group would be best to ping?
[15:10] <ppf_> jacalope: here is fine
[15:10] <ppf_> what ubuntu?
[15:10] <ppf_> what's the kernel panicking on
[15:12] <brunch875> I accidentally deleted some gnome startup application and I have no idea what it was
[15:13] <brunch875> is there a mean to restore it?
[15:13] <ppf_> without know what you're missing?
[15:13] <ppf_> how did you delete it
[15:13] <jacalope> I booted with a liveusb and got dmesg and dump files from var/crash -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23339007/
[15:13] <jacalope> Lots of bad looking stuff in there to my untrained eyes. Wasn't sure what to look at first!
[15:13] <brunch875> ppf_: I wanted to add an entry to "startup applications" and I hit 'remove' when clicking on the window to gain focus
[15:14] <brunch875> so the first entry is now gone
[15:14] <ppf_> hm
[15:14] <ppf_> tricky
[15:14] <ppf_> you can run debsums and see of one of the packages is missing a desktop file
[15:15] <brunch875> well, if anyone was kind enough to read me out his first startup application
[15:15] <brunch875> I think it was gnome-related
[15:15] <yao_ziyuan> in ubuntu 16.10, if i want to set .exe's default open type to wine, should i set this in Nautilus to "A Wine application"?
[15:15] <brunch875> right now I have "indicator Application, NVIDIA X Server Settings and SSH Key Agent
[15:17] <jacalope> Sorry...I still wasn't clear. It's 16.04 Xenial
[15:20] <brunch875> nevermind, wiping .config/autostart restored the defaults :)
[15:21] <mrabhi> k1l, mewecoffee  Please check this https://paste.ubuntu.com/23339093/
[15:25] <mrabhi> cumon guys any pointers?
[15:26] <k1l_> mrabhi: the fstab seems to be ok then. the uuids match the ones from the blkid output
[15:26] <ucciuuu_> !list
[15:26] <mrabhi> k1l_, yeah that the first thing I checked too. I am very confused on how to approach this.
[15:29] <Polmiro> hi
[15:29] <raulblanco> hi guys
[15:31] <jacalope> ppf_: Was the file I pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/23339007/ appropriate? I have access to the drive should I need to pull something else.
[15:32] <mrabhi> Folks please have a look at this https://paste.ubuntu.com/23339093/
[15:33] <mrabhi> :/
[15:33] <mrabhi> :(
[15:33] <mrabhi> :/(
[15:34] <DevAntoine> hi
[15:34] <DevAntoine> I've got an issue since my last reboot: only the wifi is working. As soon as I plug the ethernet wire I've got no more internet
[15:35] <multifractal> I'm trying to follow this https://soeasytomakeitwork.wordpress.com/2014/05/02/set-up-a-l2tpipsec-vpn-connection-on-ubuntu-desktop/ but it says "Package openswan is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[15:38] <OerHeks> multifractal, openswan is dead, unmaintained, so find a better tutorial https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openswan/+publishinghistory
[15:39] <multifractal> OerHeks god damn. I managed to get this L2TP thing working in 14.04 but lost it when i upgraded... Any ideas how I can configure an L2TP VPN with Ipsec?
[15:40] <OerHeks> multifractal, nope, maybe you want to reask in #ubuntu-server too
[15:41] <codichulo> Hello
[15:43] <user10982571> on 16.04, i have set keyboard shortcut "hide all normal windows" to super+D. it sometimes work but mostly not. any fix?
[15:46] <Guest21785> has there been any recent 16.04 updates that people have reported to break gdm?
[15:46] <Guest21785> my laptop has been online for a while, I recently turned it off and when I restart I can't get a desktop manager to boot up
[15:48] <frenda> by running `sudo hdparm -I /dev/sd? | grep -i transport` I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23339222/ Does it mean they are using same slot? (sdb is installed on place of dvd-rom using caddy; This is my laptop)
[15:49] <for{}> i know how to disable any key
[15:49] <for{}> enter "keyboard shortcuts", enter the key and bind to it "/bin/true"
[15:49] <for{}> or "/bin/false"
[15:50] <wesbl> Do you know the lightest possible command for a ffmpeg screencast?
[15:50] <wesbl> https://youtu.be/kAscDpQwwL4
[15:50] <wesbl> This is my Best result
[15:51] <umair> anyone knows how to git rebase without changing commit's committer name and email?
[15:51] <maroon> How to install gcc 3. somenthing with apt?
[15:52] <ppf_> gcc3 is not in the repos any more
[15:52] <ppf_> why do you need such an ancient compiler
[15:52] <ppf_> umair: there's no builtin way to do that
[15:53] <umair> ppf_, anyway without changing history?
[15:53] <gregf_> hello
[15:53] <ppf_> a rebase doesn't remove old commits
[15:53] <ppf_> it creates new ones with the same set of changes, applied to a new base
[15:54] <angel_> Hi
[15:54] <gregf_> its a centos question (web connections are banned on there :|). but would anyone know how to increase the terminal scrollback to unlimited?
[15:54] <maroon> ppf I have heard, that the possebility to write the C application directly to the memory is gone in the newer gcc compilers. In GCC3 its possible to write it directly into the memory for better webappliications
[15:54] <multifractal> I'm trying to get https://launchpad.net/~werner-jaeger/+archive/ubuntu/ppa-werner-vpn but it says "E: Unable to locate package l2tp-ipsec-vpn
[15:54] <multifractal> "
[15:54] <nacc> umair: what are you trying to achieve?
[15:54] <ppf_> maroon: what
[15:54] <k1l_> mrabhi: i dont see why its not maounting. can you try an older kernel?
[15:55] <umair> ppf_, if my master branch has become old and now I want to bring new changes to it, should I merge feature onto master or should I merge master onto feature?
[15:55] <ppf_> into master
[15:55] <stevlar> multifractal what ubuntu version are u using?
[15:55] <ppf_> are you asking us your git 101 homework?
[15:55] <nacc> umair: this doesn't really have anything to do with ubuntu, afaict
[15:55] <genii> multifractal: "Latest Update: 177 weeks ago"
[15:55] <umair> haha yeah
[15:55] <umair> I think I can't escape a merge
[15:56] <multifractal> stevlar 16.04
[15:56] <umair> there is no git channel
[15:56] <Pici> umair: sure there is. its #git
[15:56] <nacc> umair: did you try looking?
[15:56] <multifractal> I got it on 14.04 a few weeks ago. I can't get this god damn VPN connection to work for love nor money.
[15:56] <umair> I did try to /JOIN git
[15:56] <genii> multifractal: 177 weeks ago was many releases previous to Xenial. So that PPA will not have a package for it
[15:56] <multifractal> I would gladly pay someone to configure it, but I can't think who.
[15:56] <nacc> umair: #git not git?
[15:57] <stevlar> latest version supported by these packages is 13.04
[15:57] <multifractal> Fucking hopeless. Why is it so hard to configure this VPN?
[15:57] <umair> yeah I just realized that
[15:57] <stevlar> multifractal try openVPN
[15:58] <multifractal> stevlar for Ipsec and L2TP?
[15:58] <for{}> multifractal, do u like fractals?
[15:58] <nacc> multifractal: or possibly strongswan?
[15:58] <multifractal> for{}: Sure.
[15:59] <for{}> multifractal, do u think world is a fractal?
[15:59] <multifractal> nacc: I installed that, but I still don't know what to do. Work gave me 4 pieces of information (username, preshared keys etc.) and nobody knows anything about linux or ubuntu.
[15:59] <mrabhi> k1l_, trying right now
[16:00] <mrabhi> k1l_, same error :(
[16:00] <nacc> https://wiki.strongswan.org/projects/strongswan/wiki/NetworkManager ?
[16:02] <multifractal> nacc: I already have that. It won't connect.
[16:02] <nacc> multifractal: does it time out? spit an error?
[16:03] <multifractal> nacc: Is there any way I can debug/look at a log of errors? It just comes up with a little message saying 'Failed to connect' or some such.
[16:03] <nacc> multifractal: maybe using nmcli instead?
[16:04] <multifractal> Why on earth was this functionality _removed_ from Ubuntu?
[16:05] <jacalope> hmm... booting into an near-older kernel didn't work, but booting into an old-*enough* kernel did
[16:05] <frenda> I have added a SSD to my laptop that is recognized as sdb; I'm going to reinstall all things; Will it be still recognized as sdb in a new installation? (I want to install Ubuntu on SSD)
[16:05] <nacc> multifractal: what functionality?
[16:05] <multifractal> nacc The ability to configure L2TP connections without installing a bunch of 3rd party, unmaintained junk.
[16:05] <nacc> multifractal: what 3rd party junk are you referring to?
[16:06] <nacc> multifractal: afaik, strongswan works for most people
[16:07] <zezeon> What is the best way to install internet explorer in ubuntu?
[16:07] <multifractal> nacc: Plugins for the network manager, whatever this 'swan' stuff is... It's my understanding that Ubuntu used to be able to connect to L2TP VPNs out of the box.
[16:08] <zezeon> PlayOnLinux IE just crashes too often..
[16:08] <multifractal> I know nothing about networking, and I've got to become some kind of network expert just to get this VPN working so I can work from home :(
[16:08] <beantaxi> 16.04 here ... can't get gnu beep to produce a sound. Shouldn't it just work?
[16:09] <nacc> multifractal: um, I'm not sure  why you think packages in the archive are "3rd party"
[16:09] <frenda> Is 'being sda or sdb' important?
[16:09] <nacc> multifractal: if you had to install openswan before, that would also be consdiered "3rd party" by that logic
[16:10] <ppf_> frenda: no. the name refers to the physical order of the drives in your bios
[16:10] <jacalope> fascinating... I have four kernels 4.4.0+: -24, -34, -36, -42; None of them work after returning from suspend. BUT 4.2.0-38 works
[16:10] <ppf_> if that is volatile and you need persistent drive names, use uuids instead
[16:10] <zezeon> What is the best way to install internet explorer in ubuntu?
[16:11] <nacc> zezeon: uh, why would you?
[16:11] <jacalope> is there a kernel specific file or file-lock that sticks around during/after suspend?
[16:11] <z01d> Hey, so what is the default login manager that ubuntu uses in 16.04? is it GDM?
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> z01d  light DM
[16:11] <OerHeks> !wine | zezeon
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> z01d  lightDM
[16:12] <z01d> MonkeyDust: ahh really.. ok, as i'm runnin i3 and was wondering how to configure th elook and feel of it ?
[16:12] <z01d> the login manager now not i3
[16:12] <zezeon> thanks
[16:12] <frenda> ppf_: thx
[16:13] <fooman> Hello. Just for a test I would like to know, if I put the same couple "private and public ssh key" on all the machines of a cluster. Do they be able to connect to each other without password request ?
[16:14] <ppf_> fooman: if a user can log in with a key is determined by that user's authorized_keys configuration
[16:15] <fabrizio_> ciao a tutti
[16:15] <OerHeks> fooman, easy to find, in the ssl manual howto disable password and keys only
[16:15] <jacalope> I feel like one of the primitive humans on 2001, and my laptop has become the strange, black obelisk on the hilltop.
[16:15] <ppf_> fooman: it doesn't matter what the keys are, as long as the authorized_keys file matches
[16:15] <OerHeks> sshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[16:15] <ppf_> being passwordless or not is a property of the key, not the login procedure
[16:17] <OerHeks> ppf_, loginprocedure ( read configuration) server side it is.
[16:17] <fooman> ppf_: Ok so imagine on one machine I generate an ssh key. Then I ssh-copy-id root@locahost.  Then I copy the .ssh of this machine directory to all the machines of the cluster. Do they be able to connect to each other without password request ?
[16:17] <mrabhi> k1l_, I booted in recovery, select resume normal boot. And it works from there. But now I boot again without recovery same error.
[16:18] <mrabhi> any ideas why? what?
[16:19] <ppf_> the ssh-copy-id bit is a bit weird, but yes
[16:19] <ppf_> given that the key is passwordless, of course
[16:19] <ppf_> OerHeks: i don't follow?
[16:20] <OerHeks> "key passwordless" ??
[16:20] <ppf_> ssh keys are usually password protected
[16:20] <OerHeks> it is just a server-side configuration, key or password or both
[16:21] <ppf_> OerHeks: we're talking just about key authentication here
[16:21] <ppf_> if you disable password-login on the sshd or not is orthogonal to that
[16:21]  * OerHeks facepalms
[16:22] <fooman> ppf_: yes the key is password less. I tried what I explained and I seems doesn't work. Each machine can connect to the machine where the .ssh folder comes from without any password, but other connection request a "yes" then a password.
[16:23] <ppf_> OerHeks: elaborate? :)
[16:23] <fooman> ppf_: "other connections" means other machines between themselves
[16:23] <ppf_> fooman: did you use the same user everywhere?
[16:23] <fooman> yes root everywhere
[16:23] <ouroumov_> fooman, check out the ~/.ssh/sshd_config on that machine, see if the "allowusers" directive is uncommented
[16:23] <ppf_> fooman: did you distribute the private key?
[16:24] <fooman> ppf_: yes the entire .ssh folder
[16:24] <ouroumov_> fooman, ehr I mean /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[16:24] <fooman> ouroumov_: I'm checking
[16:25] <ppf_> ouroumov_: if the id is root, that directive doesn't help, does it?
[16:25] <ppf_> OerHeks: which part is confusing you?
[16:25] <alkisg> What is the exact message that requires entering "yes"?
[16:26] <fooman> ouroumov_: This key is not present
[16:26] <ppf_> alkisg: i'm guessing it's the 'new remote key' message
[16:27] <alkisg> Maybe it's the one that says "different from the existing one"
[16:27] <alkisg> Let's see
[16:27] <ppf_> fooman: run ssh with -v to see if it's actually offering the key
[16:27] <fooman> The authenticity of host '...' can't be established.
[16:28] <Sten-Retrogamer> Good afternoon people. Can someone please recommend me a USB WiFi module that works out of the box with Ubuntu 16.04 and up? I currently have a D-Link DWA-171 (rtl8812au), and building the driver from source every time the kernel updates is quickly becoming a chore (Yes, I've tried dkms, and that works most of the time)...
[16:28] <fooman> ECDSA key fingerprint is ...
[16:28] <akik> fooman: you can use ssh-keyscan to get those keys before connecting for real
[16:28] <fooman> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?
[16:29] <ppf_> yeah, keyscan will get rid of the message
[16:29] <fooman> I try ssh-keyscan
[16:29] <L72g5sSq> I'm still on 14.04. How much am I missing out?
[16:30] <ppf_> fooman: the message doesn't matter, really, and is not the reason why the key login doesn't work
[16:30] <ppf_> L72g5sSq: most importantly, systemd :)
[16:30] <L72g5sSq> ppf_: What about systemd?
[16:30] <ppf_> you're missing out on systemd
[16:30] <jacalope> so....does anyone have any recommendations for a more apt channel to answer my question about kernel panic after returning from suspend?
[16:30] <L72g5sSq> Doesn't 14.04 have systemd?
[16:31] <alkisg> jacalope: #ubuntu-kernel ?
[16:31] <ppf_> L72g5sSq: 15.04 brought systemd
[16:31] <fooman> ssh-keyscan <IP of a host that cannot be connected without a password> give me a result
[16:31] <jacalope> alkisg: bless you, thanks!
[16:31] <alkisg> jacalope: although, if it's an upstream kernel bug, it should be reported in the kernel bug tracker, not in a distro-specific tracker like ubuntu...
[16:32] <ppf_> fooman: paste the output of ssh -v [...] please
[16:32] <ppf_> you can remove sensitive information of course
[16:32] <alkisg> jacalope: I would try with another distro, and if the same thing happens there, I would try the kernel mailing lists or bug tracker
[16:32] <jacalope> alkisg: ok, I'll keep that in mind.
[16:32] <L72g5sSq> ppf_: Should I just upgrade to 16.04 or do a fresh install? I wonder how much of my stuff will break during the upgrade
[16:32] <ppf_> L72g5sSq: the upgrade is stable
[16:32] <L72g5sSq> Okay
[16:33] <L72g5sSq> I'm nervous though
[16:33] <ppf_> meaning it works most of the time :)
[16:33] <wafflejock> L72g5sSq, back up :)
[16:33] <jacalope> alkisg: It's been an intermittant problem...only happens once every 10 or so "resume" steps
[16:33] <ppf_> back up your precious things first
[16:33] <L72g5sSq> All my stuff is on the cloud, not worried about my data
[16:33] <ouroumov_> So what's to be nervous about ~
[16:33] <wafflejock> L72g5sSq, personally just use clonezilla to snap a copy of the whole disk before I do anything "major" then fast to roll back
[16:33] <L72g5sSq> More worried about my dmenu, gnome classic fallback, etc.
[16:34] <alkisg> L72g5sSq: if you boot from a live cd, you can cp -a /old-installation /backup-dir, before upgrading, so that you can easily revert if something goes wrong
[16:34] <L72g5sSq> hm okay.
[16:34] <backbox> hi
[16:34] <backbox> -q
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> backbox  no, backbox is not supported here
[16:35] <fooman> ppf_: ssh -v result: http://pasted.co/70695f2d
[16:35] <backbox> alright
[16:36] <ppf_> fooman: where's the rest
[16:36] <soman> Hi all. What is the easiest way to download full ubuntu 14.04 repos and later just update it? apt-mirror?
[16:37] <fooman> ppf_: that's all, I don't anwser yes to the question. I would like no yes/no question and no password request
[16:37] <ppf_> fooman: then say yes
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> soman  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[16:37] <fooman> ppf_: ok
[16:38] <ppf_> you need to establish the authenticity of all hosts
[16:38] <ppf_> akik's suggestion can be used to automate that
[16:38] <ppf_> you only need to do that once
[16:38] <fooman> ppf_: no password is requested!! :)  But the don't want this yes/no question. It is not possible to avoid this ?
[16:39] <Sten-Retrogamer> Anyone  in here know of a USB WiFi module that works out of the box with Ubuntu 16.04 and up?
[16:39] <fooman> but the => but I
[16:39] <ppf_> as i said, it's mandatory when connecting for the first time
[16:39] <alkisg> soman: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21605/what-is-the-size-of-ubuntu-repository ==> 68 GB, do you really want to download all that?
[16:39] <alkisg> fooman: to avoid that, the server needs to be in your authorized_keys
[16:40] <ppf_> alkisg: known_hosts
[16:40] <alkisg> fooman: that happens when you copy the rsa_id.pub from the server manually, or when you just press yes
[16:40] <alkisg> Yup sorry known_hosts
[16:40] <sliddis_> Hello, I created file /etc/rsyslog.d/21-myrule.conf ":msg,contains,"80003p-cpe002" /var/log/80003p-cpe002.log" I still dont see msg that contains my string to appear in that logfile.. Everything is put into syslog file
[16:41] <fooman> It'is not possible to automatically answer "yes" ? I need to script everything. I cannot enter yes for each host between each host
[16:41] <ppf_> you can use ssh-keyscan to gather all the host keys
[16:42] <alkisg> fooman: you can use ssh_keyscan > known_hosts, or you can just cp known_hosts along with the other files
[16:42] <fooman> ppf_: The size of the cluster is not static, some host can be created or destroyed during the life of the cluster
[16:43] <alkisg> fooman: if you really don't care about security, you can also disable host key checking in your ssh config
[16:43] <ppf_> the cluster manager should be able to tell you the host keys
[16:43] <ppf_> or that
[16:44] <fooman> alkisg: I would like that only the machines from my cluster can ssh each other without password request. External machines must not be allowed to connect :(
[16:45] <alkisg> fooman: that's a client side configuration setting, not a server side
[16:45] <alkisg> (the "yes" part)
[16:45] <ppf_> that's maybe a firewall job
[16:45] <alkisg> And, you can configure sshd to listen only to specific subnets... or yes use a firewall
[16:46] <fooman> ok guys thanks very much for your help. I will try your purposal
[16:47] <ioria> fooman, different issue, but maybe helps http://askubuntu.com/questions/123072/ssh-automatically-accept-keys
[16:47] <fooman> ioria: thanks
[16:47] <ioria> fooman, np
[16:53] <failedtoboot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23339578/
[16:53] <failedtoboot> how do I fix this?
[16:53] <failedtoboot> i am able to boot into ubuntu using a usb stick
[16:54] <failedtoboot> bu/filter add joinquit * irc_join,irc_part,irc_quit *
[16:54] <failedtoboot> oops
[16:55] <alkisg> failedtoboot: do you have an uefi installation?
[16:55] <alkisg> The error message means that you're trying to install a non-uefi ubuntu, to a gpt disk, which isn't a normal thing
[16:55] <alkisg> Usually, gpt goes with uefi
[16:57] <failedtoboot> yes I believe I do
[16:57] <failedtoboot> hp z820
[16:57] <frenda> I have installed Ubuntu on sda4. Archlinux was on sda2 using systemd-boot instead of grub; (sda3 --> swap) | I want keep systemd-boot as boot conttoller. How can I force Ubuntu to not install grub! http://ubuntunews.ir/wp-mohtava/uploads/2014/10/11-before-install.jpg (take a look at bottom dropdown menu)
[16:57] <alkisg> failedtoboot: then you need to create an uefi usb stick, and boot/install ubuntu from there
[16:57] <PKO1> How to install Adobe Air on 16.10? On 16.04 it worked with the script from  wget -O adobe-air.sh http://drive.noobslab.com/data/apps/AdobeAir/adobe-air.sh. Seems to be an issue with libnss-1d:386
[16:57] <failedtoboot> well my usb stick works
[16:57] <frenda> systemd-boot: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd-boot
[16:58] <alkisg> failedtoboot: for example, if you dd ubuntu.iso to a usb stick, then it can boot in uefi mode
[16:58] <alkisg> failedtoboot: your system supports booting both from uefi sticks and legacy sticks, and now you're booting in legacy mode, which is not what you want
[16:59] <Guest98652> hey
[16:59] <RFleming> Greetings!
[16:59] <frenda> :|
[16:59] <Guest98652> :/
[16:59] <failedtoboot> alkisg: ic so then do I need to create a new stick or can I use the current one? How would I check if my current stick is correct?
[16:59] <Guest98652> how do i reset my nick?
[16:59] <failedtoboot> maybe I missed an option during setup?
[16:59] <ppf_> Guest98652: /nick
[17:00] <alkisg> failedtoboot: how did you create the stick?
[17:00] <aureo> ayuda lubuntu
[17:00] <failedtoboot> netbios thing
[17:00] <frenda> How could I stop Ubuntu from installing grub? It's a default action in ubiquity installer of Ubuntu: http://ubuntunews.ir/wp-mohtava/uploads/2014/10/11-before-install.jpg (take a look at bottom dropdown menu)
[17:00] <RFleming> Was cinnamon-desktop-environment and budgie-desktop backported to xenial, or have they been there all along?
[17:00] <failedtoboot> unetbootin
[17:00] <popaye> thanks
[17:00] <failedtoboot> that
[17:00] <failedtoboot> and then got the latest ubuntu release
[17:00] <popaye> so, shifted from OSX to ubuntu 2 days back
[17:00] <failedtoboot> 16.04 i believe
[17:01] <popaye> 16.10 is latest
[17:01] <RFleming> (I just installed cinnamon-desktop-environment on a fresh 16.04.1 install
[17:01] <failedtoboot> k that one then
[17:01] <failedtoboot> or whatever it was when I made the stick ;)
[17:01] <popaye> so, how do we host and join private connections in irssi?
[17:02] <RFleming> popaye: you /msg username
[17:02] <RFleming> so... /msg popaye How's it goin' eh?
[17:02] <popaye> cant create a private host?
[17:02] <alkisg> failedtoboot: does your stick contain an /efi/ folder?
[17:02] <popaye> yeah i got that
[17:02] <RFleming> a 'private host'?
[17:02] <RFleming> do you mean a channel?
[17:02] <popaye> umm, how do i host one channel
[17:02] <popaye> yeah
[17:03] <RFleming> ... /join my_super_awesome_madeup_channel
[17:03] <ppf_> #my_super_awesome_madeup_channel
[17:04] <RFleming> ppf, yeah
[17:04] <RFleming> whoopsie
[17:04] <popaye> and host?
[17:04] <ppf_> :)
[17:04] <ppf_> popaye: you need an irc server for that
[17:04] <ppf_> there's plenty of public ones out ther
[17:04] <ppf_> e
[17:05] <popaye> is there cinnamon for 16.04?
[17:05] <RFleming> I installed it on 16.04 from the xenial repo
[17:05] <RFleming> (surprisingly)
[17:06] <popaye> any guide steps?
[17:06] <RFleming> sudo apt install cinnamon-desktop-environment
[17:06] <RFleming> it's all I did
[17:06] <popaye> how large is it?
[17:06] <RFleming> I dunno
[17:07] <RFleming> but be careful... some desktop managers don't play nice with each other
[17:07] <popaye> wait, so irssi locks the directory too?
[17:08] <ppf_> there are no file locks in POSIX
[17:12] <gray> Anyone here?
[17:12] <RFleming> nope
[17:12] <gray> ok
[17:12]  * gray sits in silence
[17:12] <RFleming> just us automated systems
[17:12] <alkisg> !ask
[17:12] <gray> Wait a minute are you trying to trick me
[17:12] <RFleming> nope
[17:12] <cerion> I was trying a guest session on a 16.04 machine and it crashes. compiz etc ... I couldn't get that guest session running. anyone seen this bug ?
[17:13] <gray> So, uhh, I just installed the latest version of ubuntu and tried to install the latest amd gpu pro driver thing, because I have a RX 480.
[17:13] <gray> Anyway, it fails, says it already as the uninstall script or something.
[17:13] <RFleming> gray: where are you installing it from?
[17:13] <RFleming> from Additional Drivers?
[17:13] <gray> downloads/extracted folder/script thing here
[17:14] <gray> Nope, download from their site
[17:14] <gray> It's got a script and then a bunch of .devs
[17:14] <gray> *debs
[17:15] <RFleming> they may not have 16.10 stuff ready yet
[17:15] <gray> The latest beta is for 16.04 apparently, but, it shouldn't matter that much, right?
[17:16] <RFleming> gray: linux kernel in 16.04 is 4.4.
[17:16] <RFleming> Linux kernel in 16.10 is 4.8
[17:16] <RFleming> so yeah, it might matter :)
[17:16] <gray> Ah :v
[17:16] <gray> Well. Drek.
[17:16] <gray> ...Now what, then? :(
[17:16] <gray> Is there an alternative driver I can use?
[17:17] <gray> Additionally, what's up with Steam? The installer installs but the program just flashes a few times and then goes away.
[17:17] <alkisg> Do you see one in the additional drivers tab of software-properties-gtk?
[17:17] <RFleming> anyone else having problems with avahi-dnsconfd on upgrading 16.04.1 to 16.10 ?
[17:18] <gray> I'm not very familiar with Linux, so, what's software-properties-gtk?
[17:18] <RFleming> I'm getting the following.
[17:18] <RFleming> dpkg: warning: subprocess old pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[17:18] <alkisg> gray: press alt+ctrl+t to open a terminal, and there run: software-properties-gtk. A dialog will open, from where you install proprietary drivers.
[17:18] <RFleming> dpkg: trying script from new package instead ...
[17:19] <RFleming> Job for avahi-daemon.socket cancelled
[17:19] <alkisg> gray: there's also a menu for that somewhere, but I don't remember it
[17:19] <RFleming> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/avahi-dnsconfd_0.6.32-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack)
[17:20] <alkisg> RFleming: the actual error is above the line that you pasted here.
[17:20] <alkisg> RFleming: maybe it'll be better to put the whole output to pastebin...
[17:20] <gray> Oh, right. It has a driver for my CPU apparently, but nothing for my gfx card.
[17:20] <alkisg> gray, then it's not ready yet
[17:20] <alkisg> Stick with 16.04
[17:21] <gray> I already installed 16.10 tho
[17:21] <gray> Reinstall? .-.
[17:21] <RFleming> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23339685
[17:22] <ppf_> gray: what's the error?
[17:22] <gray> Lemmie get it for you
[17:22] <ppf_> amdgpu is the right driver
[17:22] <ppf_> so let's figure out why it doesn't install for you
[17:23] <gray> ln: failed to create symbolic link '/usr/bin/amdgpu-pro-uninstall': File exists
[17:23] <ppf_> you've installed it before?
[17:24] <gray> Nope. This is a fresh install of ubuntu.
[17:24] <gray> Drive should be wiped.
[17:24] <ppf_> why install the driver by hand and not use the repo version?
[17:24] <gray> Because this was the only would I could find when I googled it. <.<
[17:25] <ppf_> dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[17:25] <ppf_> probably that's even shipped with a default install
[17:26] <gray> Appears to be installed, yes.
[17:26] <ppf_> then you're good, probably?
[17:26] <gray> Possibly. Is there a control panel for this thing, then? <.<
[17:26] <ppf_> i need to go home now, be back in a bit
[17:26] <gray> Bye.
[17:26] <ppf_> what do you need to control?
[17:27] <gray> Want to make my main monitor display at 120hz.
[17:27] <ppf_> tried the monitor settings?
[17:27] <gray> I believe so. That just gives me stuff for the resolution.
[17:27] <ppf_> don't knoiw how to get there in unity, though ... open the menu, type monitor
[17:28] <gray> "screen display", right?
[17:28] <ppf_> you could use xrandr to set the frequency, though
[17:29] <RFleming> Seems my issue has a bug attached to it already: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/1634061
[17:31] <gray> No idea what xrandr is. Will explore, thanks. :)
[17:31] <atralheaven_> Hi guys, I have some sensitive data that I want to protect them them from people having access to it (with encryption), and from losing them, because they're important (with backups/copies). I mainly use linux and I don't care about other operating systems support.
[17:31] <atralheaven_> I want to use SD cards because they're cheap, portable, and also easy to hide and if necessary, destroy. its hard to erase unencrypted data on SD cards, so I want to use full disk encryption from beginning.
[17:32] <atralheaven_> My options are using veracrypt and luks, right? as in security, I think both are secure enough. but how about data loss? I don't want to loose all of my data on that disk easily, and I want to be able to have backups
[17:32] <T0X0PL4SM0515> yo
[17:34] <berzerking> hi all
[17:34] <RFleming> Hi
[17:34] <T0X0PL4SM0515> y'all as concerned as i am re: wikileaks?
[17:34] <gray> Nope
[17:34] <RFleming> T0X0PL4SM0515: best suited for #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:35] <T0X0PL4SM0515> RFleming:  got it thx
[17:35] <RFleming> T0X0PL4SM0515: the admins can be twitchy :)
[17:36] <RFleming> better safe than sorry
[17:36] <T0X0PL4SM0515> sounds good ^_^\
[17:36] <gray> RFLeming, do you have any experience with xrandr?
[17:37] <RFleming> minor
[17:37] <RFleming> gray: the Arch wiki has good stuff on it: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xrandr
[17:38] <gray> So, you can set the rate to whatever you want? Or just what's in the list?
[17:39]  * RFleming shrugs
[17:42] <tony64> hello
[17:42] <tony64> list!
[17:43] <nacc> gray: xrandr is reporting back to you the rates supported by the combination of software and hardware generally
[17:44] <nacc> gray: if a particular mode isn't listed, and you expect it to, it might be a bug
[17:44] <OerHeks> mayb 120 hrz is only possible with displayport
[17:44] <gray> I have display port
[17:44] <Yiota> how should I install python3.5 on ubuntu LTS where it only has python3.4?
[17:45] <tony64> ciao
[17:45] <OerHeks> Yiota, 16.4 got 3.5.2 > python3 --version
[17:45] <Yiota> right, but this is prod
[17:45] <Yiota> and I can't just ask to update to 16.4 from 14
[17:45] <OerHeks> so how do you tell it got 3.4
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> Yiota  for anything that's not in the repos, you need a ppa or a .deb or so, but thats not supported here
[17:46] <OerHeks> oh 14.04 lts ..
[17:46] <Yiota> OerHeks when I do python3 it links to python3.4
[17:47] <akik> Yiota: ubuntu lts currently means 12.04, 14.04 and 16.04
[17:47] <Pici> Yiota: You could use the deadsnakes PPA.
[17:47] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/682869/how-do-i-install-newer-python-versions-using-apt-get = deadsnakes
[17:53] <afterkeys> guys how t osave channeles that i joined so next time hexchat can auto re open them
[17:53] <afterkeys> how to save channels *
[17:55] <techmagus> afterkeys, right-click the channel and select "autojoin"
[17:55] <afterkeys> tnx
[17:56] <razor_edge> how do i disable super key + l shortcut?
[17:58] <razor_edge> i tried ccsm, unity-tweak but i cant find it
[18:01] <MonkeyDust> razor_edge  system settings > keyboard > shortcuts
[18:01] <razor_edge> i only found ctrl alt l there
[18:01] <TI-1795> I really do think we are providing a free service to Google with these reCAPTCHAs.
[18:02] <TI-1795> Anyway, if run `xhost +` in terminal and get `xhost:  unable to open display ""` am I f*cked if trying to run `google-chrome`?
[18:03] <Guest50192> hey
[18:04] <TI-1795> Or am I going to have to wait for the Chrome team's GUI-less browser: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11839303
[18:04] <popaye> hey, its me
[18:04] <atharvak1> hey
[18:04] <nacc> TI-1795: what are you trying to do?
[18:05] <afterkeys> guys watching video in smplayer but i get that screen shattring whilte there is a fast movement of camera  what's causing that ?
[18:05] <TI-1795> nacc: I have a PHP script on remote called from a user. The PHP script calls a Ruby script which uses a gem that uses `google-chrome`.
[18:06] <popaye> lol
[18:07] <atharvak1> a
[18:07] <popaye> b
[18:07] <atharvak1> ac
[18:07] <atharvak1> lol what
[18:07] <atharvak1> gotta go anyways
[18:08] <popaye> any private channels here?
[18:08] <TI-1795> If I run `google-chrome` on remote I get `22149:22149:1017/140712:ERROR:browser_main_loop.cc(260)] Gtk: cannot open display:` So, that with the fact that `xhost +` returns `xhost:  unable to open display ""` I am left to conclude that there is no GUI and so Chrome cannot be opened because it is a GUI browser. Am I right here?
[18:08] <osman> razor_edge: ccsm -> Ubuntu Unity Plugin (I checked it on 16.10)
[18:09] <nacc> TI-1795: you have a php script that eventually wants to open a browser? that seems ... odd! :)
[18:09] <nacc> TI-1795: but ok, yes, you'd need to have an X server running on the same machine in order to run google-crhome
[18:09] <nacc> *chrome
[18:11] <razor_edge> osman, thanks
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> razor_edge  found it?
[18:11] <TI-1795> nacc: I am using a digitalocean "droplet" which is just a VPS. Do you know how I might go about installing a GUI on Ubuntu remotely?
[18:11] <razor_edge> MonkeyDust, yes
[18:12] <TI-1795> nacc: Why is that odd? Odd in a good way or bad?
[18:13] <nacc> TI-1795: why would a server-side script need to run a browser?
[18:13] <akik> TI-1795: x2go works pretty good
[18:13] <nicomachus> TI-1795: ssh into it, then install ubuntu-desktop
[18:13] <nacc> TI-1795: you're basically going to have to at least install xserver, but then you might as well install the ubuntu-desktop metapacakge, as chrome is going to have deps
[18:14] <nacc> TI-1795: but then i'd really wonder why you need to run a desktop environment on a VPS (imo)
[18:15] <TI-1795> nacc: To transfer form data into an account accessed by login. Is that dumb? I just don't want to deal with the API and integrating into the form.
[18:15] <younder> rstview likes to lauch a browser that way each time a file is edited the shange shows up in the browser automatically
[18:15] <younder> for example
[18:16] <nacc> younder: but i assume that rstview is launching the browser *locally* ?
[18:16] <younder> koffeescrippt over nodejas under atom does the same thing. The moment you save a file it is traslated to javascript so yo don't have to worry about stale files.
[18:16] <TI-1795> nacc: By "the API" I mean the API of the site that needs the form data.
[18:18] <TI-1795> nacc: The site provides a way to integrate form data, so that it automatically submits to the site, so that when you login it is there. This greatly cuts down on manual data transfer.
[18:19] <nacc> TI-1795: i'm not saying it's 'dumb' in and of itself. And younder is providing some examples that indicate maybe it's common (although I'm curious if the browser is run on the server in either case). I just think it's strange to me to need to install an entire desktop environment on a server so you can launch chrome from some helper for a PHP script.
[18:21] <levo> using Lubuntu, my ESC key is  broken, tried to map <TLDE> to [ Escape ] by changing /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us  but after restarting the system there was no change made.
[18:21] <wafflejock> TI-1795, typically cleaner solution to make the request using curl in PHP to make the requests if you really need to have a browser perhaps using the headless PhantomJS will work sort of offtopic for the channel though
[18:22] <TI-1795> Wafflejock: Yeah, I saw that in the comments over at Hacker News too.
[18:23] <berzerking> is their any chance that someone know how to install a Radeon R7 370 with ubuntu 16.10 ?
[18:25] <TI-1795> wafflejock: Wait wait wait, but when I inspect an input field on the site I want to transfer the form data to I can see the input's attributes, but when I look at source it's not there. How is that going to help, if view source is the same as curl?
[18:25] <quantibility> ok, i have Xubuntu install and want to switch over to Ubuntu.. Can i do so and keep most if not all of my user preferences?? or do i have to give it all up and kinda start over?
[18:26] <MonkeyDust> berzerking  there's this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati
[18:26] <TI-1795> wafflejock: Also, I have to login to this site. I'm using watir-webdriver to do this.
[18:26] <MonkeyDust> quantibility  do you have a separate /home?
[18:26] <quantibility> i tried to install Kwin today and realize it just doesn't work
[18:26] <quantibility> MonkeyDust, uh
[18:26] <quantibility> yeah but i need to change the name of it to be hones
[18:26] <quantibility> honst
[18:26] <quantibility> honest
[18:27] <TI-1795> wafflejock: Are you saying curl the data and the manipulate locally and then submit the form?
[18:27] <berzerking> MonkeyDust : thxs ... i'm trying it :)
[18:27] <wafflejock> TI-1795, I'm familiar with webdriver for e2e testing but not sure I understand the question or what you're trying to accomplish exactly
[18:27] <\9> quantibility: add a symbolic link to support both user names for the transition period
[18:27] <wafflejock> TI-1795, in chrome when you submit a form or request anything you can look in the network panel, you can right click a request and hit copy as curl
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> quantibility  the install ubuntu, don't touch the /home partition ... backup /etc
[18:28] <wafflejock> TI-1795, that'll show you the curl equivalent to make the request then you can just map the flags over to the right parameters for doing the request using the php_curl module
[18:28] <quantibility> MonkeyDust, i have a copy of my home partition (by accident really) cause i was trying to change the name of the home folder.. in another user account.. accidently just copied it and still was left with my orginal homefolder name..
[18:29] <quantibility> which took forever lol
[18:29] <quantibility> but still
[18:29] <quantibility> i have a copy of it
[18:29] <wafflejock> TI-1795, it's best to just use an API if provided but that's a way to hack it :)
[18:29] <quantibility> so? i can use the copied one when i install ubuntu?
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> quantibility  ok, i was going to suggest, to install ubuntu, and change the host name after that
[18:30] <quantibility> Am i right to assume Ubuntu will install kwin with no problem?? MonkeyDust ?
[18:30] <codfection> when is ubuntu 17.04 gonna release?
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> codfection  april 2017
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> quantibility  not sure, never tried
[18:31] <codfection> MonkeyDust, which kernel?
[18:31] <TI-1795> wafflejock: A user goes to site1, enters data into form on site1, the form calls an action.php file which creates a file file.txt with a tab-delimited version of the form data, the same action.php file then evokes a Ruby script using watir-webdriver that uses the content of file.txt to submit another form on another site, site2, which requires login. Does that make sense? Again, is that dumb?
[18:32] <wafflejock> TI-1795, well the bad thing I could see there is you're storing peoples credentials in plain text which means if the server is compromised then all their accounts for site2 can be used by whoever got the list
[18:33] <k1l_> codfection: the details what should land in 17.04 will be discussed on the next ubuntu developer summit (UDS).
[18:33] <TI-1795> Yes, that is something that I was thinking about as went to sleep last night.
[18:33] <quantibility> well ive check on the net xfce4 kinda rules the roost on xubuntu
[18:33] <Noidea> Confused!
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> !info kwin-x11 | quantibility
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> quantibility  did you install that?
[18:34] <codfection> k1l_, alright. thanks
[18:34] <quantibility> xubuntu comes prepackaged with xfce4
[18:34] <Noidea> what's hexChat? I can't understand anything about this
[18:34] <k1l_> !irc | Noidea
[18:34] <quantibility> though i have issues with this system due to a lot of user error
[18:34] <nicomachus> Noidea: /join #hexchat
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> quantibility  do you want kde or xfce?
[18:35] <quantibility> xfce4 came with xubuntu.. and i was a newbie back then
[18:35] <Noidea> Oh My GOD! I am new to all this stuff, I have no idea what those are.
[18:35] <codfection> Noidea, what are you using to chat here?
[18:35] <quantibility> Noidea, i have the same issue and i have had this over 1 and half years
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> Noidea  this is ubuntu support, ask your ubuntu questions here
[18:36] <Noidea> Its raspberry Pi3 I am using and something named HexChat
[18:36] <quantibility> MonkeyDust, im planning on making the switch
[18:36] <nicomachus> Noidea: hexchat is an IRC application. You can find more info in the #hexchat channel. You can join that by typing '/join #hexchat'
[18:36] <\9> Noidea: hexchat is a irc (=internet relay chat) client. this is real-time chat
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> quantibility  kwin is part of kde (kubuntu, if you like)
[18:37] <\9> Noidea: topic in here is ubuntu support
[18:37] <k1l_> Noidea: this is the IRC ubuntu technical support. see the message from the bot (ubottu) if you want to read about what irc is and what rules we have here.
[18:37] <quantibility> well another reason i want to change distro is because i want the USER errors i made fixed..
[18:37] <BluesKaj_> [\0
[18:37]  * quantibility dumb
[18:37] <Noidea> ubuntu - Topic, so any idea about overclocking the raspberry pi using ubuntu mate
[18:37] <quantibility> lol
[18:38] <codfection> Noidea, so you are not using ubuntu and asking questions here? that might get you kick or ban. please read the topic
[18:38] <quantibility> when it came to windows i was a wiz.. now im trying to be a wiz in linux
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> quantibility  not dumb, exploring
[18:38] <codfection> !topic
[18:38] <Noidea> I am using UBUNTU
[18:38] <baxt_> anyone really know there shiz with ubuntu, im looking to install to a dell l702x xps 17. but i want it to be basic command line only
[18:38] <codfection> Noidea, in raspberry pi3?
[18:38] <Noidea> but this is my first time in ubuntu and i have no idea about it.
[18:38] <Noidea> yes
[18:38] <quantibility> MonkeyDust, in reality however i really want to look into the Source code and start changing things around ya know.. but i really want a system that is truely mine
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> !mini | baxt_
[18:38] <BluesKaj_>  Noidea whynot joij=n #raspberrypi and ask there
[18:39] <Noidea> codfection:Yes
[18:39] <BluesKaj_> join
[18:39] <codfection> is there ubuntu for raspberry pi3? :O
[18:39] <Noidea> yes its Ubuntu mate ,its avalable noe
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> codfection  there's #ubuntu-arm
[18:39] <k1l_> Noidea: for that specific questions about raspberry pi you might want to ask the specialists in #raspberrypi
[18:39] <quantibility> so kubuntu comes prepackaged with kwin? and Ubuntu is just like a skeleton for the extra cool stuff??
[18:39] <Noidea> ok K1l_
[18:39] <BluesKaj_> codfection, yes ubuntu-mate
[18:40] <\9> quantibility: ubuntu is a complete operating system with a fancy desktop called unity
[18:40] <Noidea> ok people , tell me about ubuntu, how is it different from windows and all.
[18:40] <\9> quantibility: kubuntu is ubuntu except with unity replaced with kde plasma (including kwin)
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> quantibility  note the word 'complete' in \9 post :p
[18:40] <quantibility> Noidea, theres a huge difference, 1 (which i like) hardly any viruses
[18:40] <\9> quantibility: xubuntu is ubuntu except unity replaced with xfce, etc
[18:41] <Noidea> so if we rate: whats better Windows or Ubuntu?
[18:41] <baxt_> Noidea: for what
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> Noidea  what you like more, is better
[18:41] <\9> Noidea: you ask that in #ubuntu? you know what the answer is going to be
[18:41] <Soul_Sample> did a fresh install of 16.04 and now steam creates a desktop icon everytime I launch it, does anyone know why?
[18:41] <baxt_> if its taming well windows but everthin else linux
[18:41] <Noidea> brilliant, thanks!
[18:41] <k1l_> Noidea: that would be a topic thats better suited in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:41] <k1l_> Noidea: we focus on plain technical issues in here
[18:41] <codfection> I see
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> Noidea  and define 'better'
[18:41] <quantibility> Noidea, depends on you. however if you want flexibility linux is the way to go
[18:42] <kindness> quantibility, whats the less buggy os?
[18:42] <basheba> You aren't comparing apples to apples Noidea.  That's like asking which is better Beef or fruit
[18:42] <quantibility> LOL kindness LINUX
[18:42] <quantibility> lol
[18:42] <codfection> Noidea, !better
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> !best
[18:42] <\9> i think we're heading way off topic here
[18:42] <quantibility> linux is so stable and if user error wasn't an issue it stay on forever
[18:42] <Noidea> so its there any channel where I can learn about Raspberry Pi and about Science? Thanks and I wont bother you guys
[18:43] <basheba> two totally different worlds Noidea just b/c they are both food, doesn't mean it's the same food family
[18:43] <kindness> quantibility, how many os have u tried so far?
[18:43] <quantibility> Noidea, MonkeyDust gave you an answer to that
[18:43] <quantibility> for linux kindness ?
[18:43] <codfection> quantibility, not necessarily, sometimes ubuntu 16.04 stops responding for me. (not sure about others)
[18:43] <kindness> os is operating system
[18:43] <k1l_> !ot | kindness
[18:43] <baxt_> noidea: i pm u
[18:43] <quantibility> codfection i never said ubuntu specifically, linux was more the general term
[18:44] <Pici> Noidea: theres #raspberrypi
[18:44] <codfection> well ubuntu is linux
[18:44] <k1l_> same goes for quantibility and codfection
[18:44] <k1l_> Noidea: the hashtags are channels on irc. so join the #raspberrypi channel to talk about the rpi specifics
[18:45] <quantibility> type /join #raspberrypi
[18:45] <gray> So, steam isn't working. :(
[18:46] <quantibility> kindness, i have tired nearly all windows distributions and some linux distros.. im happy with ubuntu based os's
[18:46] <kindness> quantibility, i am on #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:47] <quantibility> actually im still wanting to figure out this issue with ubuntu installtions over xubuntu
[18:47] <ppf_> quantibility: why install it 'over'
[18:47] <quantibility> should i go with ubuntu anyhow and just install what i want from there?
[18:48] <quantibility> cause i have xubuntu
[18:48] <Noidea> I tried joining #raspberrypi, nothing happened.
[18:48] <ppf_> okay. so?
[18:48] <codfection> quantibility, you need to install unity then
[18:48] <gray> Does anyone know how to get Steam working? This is killing me.
[18:48] <codfection> gray, what error?
[18:48] <k1l_> quantibility: you can install a minimal system and install what you want/need from there. but you can remove xfce and install ubuntu-desktop on the xubuntu install, too.
[18:48] <quantibility> codfection, ?? that would make xubuntu ubuntu?
[18:48] <gray> There's no error, it just starts and then flashes for a bit and then closes.
[18:48] <codfection> then log into ubuntu and remove xubuntu desktop
[18:49] <ppf_> gray: if you run it in a termina/
[18:49] <ppf_> l?
[18:49] <codfection> gray, you dont have necessary dependencies installed.
[18:49] <k1l_> quantibility: all *ubuntus share the same codebase. yes. if you install ubuntu-desktop package you get a ubuntu install, if it was a xubuntu before
[18:49] <codfection> for steam native
[18:49] <quantibility> hmm
[18:49] <gray> What's the command to run steam, then?
[18:49] <gray> exec steam? :v
[18:50] <quantibility> and to fix my folder name problem i have to get rid of my copied folder (by accident) and go through the  process again of logging into another account ?
[18:50] <ppf_> 'steam'
[18:50] <quantibility> cause that crap took forever lol
[18:50] <ppf_> if it's in your PATH
[18:50] <ppf_> otherwise /path/to/steam
[18:51] <k1l_> quantibility: what folder name problem?
[18:51] <gray> ppf_ , http://pastebin.com/CPuL6CCx
[18:52] <ppf_> gray: run LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose steam
[18:52] <Soul_Sample> can I somehow easiyl remove all steam configurations but keep my installed games? whenver I run steam it creates a new desktop icon for itself, and I think resetting everything would help. i just don't want to download 100gigs of games again
[18:52] <quantibility> well i wanted to keep the my current screen btw as my freaking folder name.. and i tired changing it all sorts of ways except the right way and i have had issues since with permissons and have had  IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/user/.config/ibus/bus is not root!
[18:52] <quantibility> warnings since
[18:52] <Soul_Sample> i know I can backup steamapps but will steam find them after?
[18:52] <Equinoctis> Hi im looking for someone that can help me with umask
[18:52] <quantibility> my current screen name
[18:53] <gray> ppf_ , http://pastebin.com/X27bW6Gu
[18:53] <quantibility> my folder name is now quantibiliy missing the t
[18:53] <Langley> Hello, should I upgrade the HWE for a Ubuntu-derived distro (Black Lab Linux)?
[18:53] <quantibility> ok can Kwin install on Xubuntu?
[18:53] <Keydns> exit
[18:53] <k1l_> quantibility: "wanted to keep the current screen name" so you made a typo when installing the system and creating that account?
[18:54] <quantibility> yeah
[18:54] <quantibility> k1l_, yes exactly
[18:54] <quantibility> i never noticed untill recently
[18:54] <ppf_> gray: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/48994
[18:54] <ppf_> gray: give their solution a try
[18:54] <quantibility> but i have the copied folder (by accident mind you) and i am just tired of trying to fix this issue
[18:55] <quantibility> with the proper name
[18:55] <ronaldsmazitis> at 14.04 You could place icons on screen, and they would not loose there place, now they are placed aligned always
[18:55] <ronaldsmazitis> 16.04
[18:55] <toeshred> what init does ubuntu 16.04 use?
[18:55] <ronaldsmazitis> why is that?
[18:55] <ppf_> toeshred: systemd
[18:55] <k1l_> quantibility: i think using usermod would be the proper way.
[18:55] <ronaldsmazitis> if Nautilus does not do it's thing as screen keeper, there is no use for desktop icons
[18:55] <wafflejock> Soul_Sample, something like described here worked for me when moving my steam lib http://askubuntu.com/questions/260288/how-can-i-change-where-steam-installs-games
[18:56] <gray> Seems to be launching at least. Thanks! :D
[18:56] <ppf_> welcome
[18:56] <ronaldsmazitis> I made decision to move to openbox, since Unity lost it's ability to keep icons in place
[18:56] <quantibility> k1l_, well, i don't know maybe its a moot point. cause its amazingly hard
[18:56] <ronaldsmazitis> plus it's faster, except for window size placement
[18:58] <k1l_> quantibility: not tested, but this should work: sudo usermod -d /home/name2 -m -g name2 -l name2 name1.
[18:58] <codfection> ronaldsmazitis, well so? its not a support related question. see !topic
[18:58] <ronaldsmazitis> I just wanted to get icon placement back
[18:58] <quantibility> k1l_, wow ok ill give that a shot..
[18:58] <codfection> gray, seems like missing dependencies
[18:58] <quantibility> name2 is my old name right?
[18:58] <quantibility> or new one?
[18:59] <k1l_> no, name2 is the new name. name1 is the actual used username
[18:59] <quantibility> ok
[18:59] <ppf_> codfection: steam ships a couple of dependencies. sometimes they're incompatible with the system version
[18:59] <codfection> ppf_, yea exactly
[18:59] <codfection> so I override the ones in my system
[18:59] <ppf_> you can just remove steams version
[19:00] <Guest93939> Hey lads
[19:00] <codfection> ppf_, but I dont understand whats causing opengl error?
[19:00] <ppf_> codfection: what's the error?
[19:00] <codfection> ppf_, whenever I open csgo; it says OpenGL not found
[19:00] <codfection> and after few minutes it launches cs go but fps sucks
[19:00] <ppf_> run it on the terminal and paste it, please
[19:00] <ubuntunoobhelp> I require assistance with the installation of ubuntu
[19:01] <codfection> ppf_, how to launch cs go from terminal
[19:01] <ronaldsmazitis> I think 12.04 could place icons, and they did not loose location aswell, what happened with 16.04
[19:01] <codfection> steam is fine
[19:01] <afterkeys> guys i'm watching video in smplayer but i get that screen shattring whilte there is a fast movement of camera  what's causing that ?
[19:01] <ppf_> launch steam from terminal
[19:02] <ppf_> that might give you more output
[19:02] <codfection> ppf_, ok...
[19:02] <ubuntunoobhelp> i have a blank table on the disc partition screen of the ubuntu installer i need help
[19:03] <ppf_> i believe you can't run the games directly
[19:03] <quantibility> k1l_, my user name is quantibility, and i have a folder already named the same name.. in my home directory.. will this command affect that?
[19:04] <quantibility> you see what im saying there? k1l_ ?
[19:04] <OerHeks> ubuntunoobhelp, 1. maybe you have 4 primairy partitions alrady, boot the live session and see with the disk utility
[19:04] <OerHeks> c/already
[19:04] <k1l_> quantibility: hmm. so you changed your user name already but didnt change the users home directory? my command would have done all in one go. renaming the user and the home folder and changing all file permissions to match the new one.
[19:05] <ubuntunoobhelp> i have do idea what that means @OerHeks
[19:05] <k1l_> quantibility: so you seem to have done some things already?
[19:05] <ubuntunoobhelp> *no
[19:05] <quantibility> i haven't pressed enter yet
[19:05] <quantibility> just double checking
[19:05] <ppf_> if you just rename the user the permissions stay intact
[19:05] <NoCode> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1301125 -- That's the bug I'm getting, yep.
[19:05] <NoCode> bleh
[19:05] <quantibility> cause the folder with the actual user name is not used as my home directory
[19:05] <OerHeks> ubuntunoobhelp, boot the iso in live mode ( try ubuntu) and open disks utility
[19:05] <codfection> ppf_, http://pastebin.com/jqBQbXUN
[19:05] <quantibility> should i just change the name of it?
[19:05] <quantibility> just to be sure?
[19:06] <quantibility> cause copying will take forever
[19:06] <k1l_> quantibility: my command works in a state when you have the wrong username and the wrong folder name because of a typo at creating that user.
[19:06] <NoCode> Have to reboot when the desktop doesn't show up. lol
[19:06] <NoCode> Annoying as hell
[19:06] <k1l_> quantibility: i dont know the effects when you have already changed something there
[19:06] <quantibility> i haven't done much of anything
[19:06] <ppf_> codfection: interesting. run the command i suggested to gray before
[19:06] <quantibility> the name of the other folder (one created by accident, sorta like a back up now thank god) is the same name
[19:07] <quantibility> but its not my home folder  so i can just change name correct?
[19:07] <quantibility> im thinking i should to be safe
[19:08] <k1l_> quantibility: details matter. as i said: if you have username1 as username and username1 as home folder my command will make the full package like you never have made the typo and used username2 on ubuntu install.
[19:08] <codfection> ppf_, the arch link?
[19:08] <ppf_> no the steam command
[19:08] <henri> hi
[19:08] <codfection> I ran "steam"
[19:09] <henri> hello world !
[19:09] <ppf_> i know, the other one :p
[19:09] <codfection> ppf_, run LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose steam
[19:09] <codfection> ?
[19:09] <ppf_> ya
[19:10] <quantibility> k1l
[19:11] <codfection> ppf_, http://pastebin.com/xzj5EY5n
[19:11] <ronaldsmazitis> https://www.google.lv/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&client=ubuntu#newwindow=1&q=Desktop+icons+rearrange+on+reboot+nautilus+ubuntu+16.04
[19:11] <ronaldsmazitis> no viable answer
[19:11] <Guest42910> how do i setup a container in lxd and ssh into into it from another network
[19:12] <Jakey3> how do i setup a container in lxd and ssh into into it from another network
[19:12] <ppf_> codfection: remove /home/codfection/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
[19:12] <ppf_> or move it away
[19:12] <ppf_> for backup :)
[19:12] <ppf_> Jakey3: that's really two different questions
[19:12] <quantibility> k1l_, my user name the one displayed is correct, but the folder is the wrong name
[19:12] <Jakey3> the first part i know
[19:12] <k1l_> quantibility: can you run "ls -al /home | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url?
[19:12] <quantibility> or am i getting it wrong?
[19:13] <quantibility> ill gave that a go
[19:13] <Jakey3> i mean to setup the network to ssh into it
[19:13] <ppf_> you need to create a local bridge
[19:13] <ppf_> with one end connected to the container NIC, and the other one to your lan
[19:14] <quantibility> http://termbin.com/jcq8
[19:14] <quantibility> i already renamed my folder
[19:15] <quantibility> to backup
[19:15] <Jakey3> ppf_, the container is on a vps
[19:15] <Jakey3> with a staATIC IP
[19:15] <k1l_> quantibility: ok. i was confused now :)  but now my command from above will work and rename the username and the folder to the correct name (name2 in my command)
[19:16] <k1l_> quantibility: wair
[19:16] <k1l_> wiat
[19:16] <ppf_> Jakey3: so?
[19:16] <k1l_> quantibility: wait.
[19:16] <quantibility> haha i knew that was comming
[19:16] <quantibility> lol
[19:16] <quantibility> the qfixer deal right?
[19:16] <k1l_> quantibility: did you create already another user with the "correct name"?
[19:16] <ppf_> Jakey3: the bridge serves to connect the containers view of the network with the real network of the host
[19:16] <quantibility> no
[19:16] <Jakey3> ppf_, ok
[19:17] <quantibility> oh
[19:17] <quantibility> yeah i guess i did
[19:17] <k1l_> quantibility: then i wonder how that backup folder got the group permission from the "correct name"
[19:17] <quantibility> because i didn't do it right
[19:17] <quantibility> try as i might
[19:17] <quantibility> the fold that says backup is actually quantibility
[19:18] <quantibility> though that isn't my current log in
[19:18] <ppf_> Jakey3: if that's what you want. right now i'm not sure if i understood your goal
[19:18] <quantibility> so the heck do i fix this smh
[19:19] <Jakey3> ppf_, i want to be able to ssh into my lxd container like a vm with static ip
[19:19] <quantibility> cause the way its set up is causing minor issues but issues non the less
[19:19] <ppf_> Jakey3: can you ssh into it from the host?
[19:19] <quantibility> i can get rid of some users if need be
[19:19] <k1l_> quantibility: "cat /etc/passwd | nc termbin.com"
[19:20] <quantibility> ok
[19:20] <Jakey3> ppf_, my i can not the lxd container
[19:20] <Jakey3> ppf_, my vm i can not the lxd container
[19:20] <ppf_> i still can't parse that
[19:20] <ppf_> rephrase?
[19:21] <quantibility> uh
[19:21] <quantibility> k1l_,
[19:21] <quantibility> im having a slight issue with this
[19:21] <quantibility> me$ cat /etc/passwd | nc termbin.com
[19:21] <quantibility> This is nc from the netcat-openbsd package. An alternative nc is available
[19:21] <quantibility> in the netcat-traditional package.
[19:21] <nicholasthan> Which version of ubuntu should i install 16.04 or 16.10?
[19:22] <k1l_> quantibility: sorry, forgot the port:
[19:22] <quantibility> oh
[19:22] <k1l_> quantibility: "cat /etc/passwd | nc termbin.com 9999"
[19:22] <ppf_> nicholasthan: 16.04 will get 5 years of updates. 16.10 is a bit more up to date, but support will run out in 9 months
[19:22] <Jakey3> ppf_, i can ssh into my vm not my containers. You inform me i must set up a bridge to my containers
[19:22] <Jakey3> to beable to ssh to them from another network?
[19:22] <ppf_> Jakey3: or from the host
[19:22] <quantibility> http://termbin.com/ytfq
[19:23] <ppf_> Jakey3: here's an explanation of how this works
[19:23] <ppf_> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/04/07/lxd-networking-lxdbr0-explained/
[19:23] <codfection> ppf_, I fixed steam issue
[19:24] <ppf_> codfection: great
[19:24] <Jakey3> ppf_, ok
[19:24] <codfection> ppf_, by sudo apt-get purge steam
[19:24] <codfection> lol
[19:24] <k1l_> quantibility: ok, the other user is named quantibilityftp. so that should not make issues.
[19:24] <ppf_> codfection: did you actually try my suggestion? :)
[19:24] <codfection> ppf_, yea but more errors occured
[19:25] <ppf_> sure, uninstallation can fix that
[19:25] <quantibility> quantibiliy:x:1000:1001:Quantibility,,none,none,:/home/quantibiliy:/bin/bash thats command is going to change this right?
[19:26] <quantibility> another thing the 1001 and 1000 that doesn't look right i didn't know about it then when i changed it
[19:26] <quantibility> hmmm
[19:26] <k1l_> quantibility: my usermod command will change the name and the homefolder in that file, yes. but it will change the filepermissions and other system stuff too. so the system is the same as if you had never typed the wrong name on install.
[19:27] <k1l_> quantibility: dont change that file manually.
[19:27] <quantibility> ok
[19:27] <quantibility> going to start now
[19:28] <quantibility> well just to be sure this looks right though??
[19:28] <quantibility> sudo usermod -d /home/quantibility -m -g quantibility -l quantibility quantibiliy
[19:28] <k1l_> yes
[19:28] <quantibility> ok
[19:28] <quantibility> usermod: user quantibiliy is currently used by process 1915
[19:28] <quantibility> see im all screwed up man lol
[19:29] <ppf_> quantibility: you need to log out first
[19:29] <quantibility> ohhhhhhh
[19:29] <quantibility> then use that command?
[19:29] <ppf_> you also need another user to log in to
[19:29] <quantibility> that i do
[19:29] <ppf_> okay
[19:29] <ppf_> you can't usermod a logged in user
[19:29] <k1l_> yeah, i guess you have to logout from the desktop. then start ctrl+alt+f1 then login there. afterwards get back to gui with ctrl+alt+f7
[19:30] <ppf_> so logout first, then usermod
[19:30] <k1l_> quantibility: or even better. use the recovery on boot
[19:30] <Jessica_German_1> Hallo
[19:30] <_ramok> hi
[19:30] <Jessica_German_1> hi ramok
[19:31] <Jessica_German_1> keiner da ?
[19:31] <_ramok> i've installed an ubuntu 16.04 on my server and installed tools like, mesos and zookeeper via apt. thos services can be started and stopped via systemctl start mesos-master.service  . how can i configure that they autostart when the machine is restarted?
[19:34] <ppf_> _ramok systemctl enable mesos zookeeper
[19:35] <antarrah> What is the -qy for in apt-get update -qy?
[19:35] <ppf_> antarrah: -q is --quiet, -y is --yes
[19:35] <antarrah> ppf_: ah, thanks
[19:36] <ppf_> antarrah: for future reference, check the manpage
[19:36] <ppf_> that'll tell you what command switches do
[19:36] <ppf_> for all the commands :)
[19:36] <antarrah> ppf_: will do :)
[19:36] <ppf_> here: man apt-get
[19:40] <stickybath> Hi, I have installed gnome on Arch Linux and am having an issue I've never seen before.
[19:40] <ppf_> stickybath: this is #ubuntu
[19:40] <sathya> hi guys I recently upgraded ubuntu 14.04 and now my headphones don't work.
[19:41] <stickybath> When I click 'Users' on the gnome-control-center it segfaults
[19:41] <ppf_> sathya: upgraded to what?
[19:41] <stickybath> yeah I'm using gnome that's why I came here
[19:41] <sathya> I can't start alsamixer, tried reinstalling it but no luck
[19:41] <sathya> my bad
[19:41] <sathya> I updated
[19:41] <ppf_> stickybath: #ubuntu != #gnome :)
[19:41] <ppf_> sathya: updated to what?
[19:41] <sathya> I cleared some old kernels
[19:41] <stickybath> I thought the users here might be more familiar with the DE since before unity Ubuntu shipped with gnome
[19:42] <ppf_> that's been like, what, 5 years?
[19:42] <sathya> 14.04.5 LTS
[19:42] <ppf_> stickybath: try the arch or gnome channels
[19:42] <sathya> ppf_ now its 14.04.5 LTS
[19:42] <ppf_> sathya: ok. why can't you start alsamixer?
[19:43] <sathya> it just says that it cannot open mixer
[19:43] <k1l_> stickybath: please ask the arch specialists or the gnome guys. the arch channel is #archlinux
[19:43] <stickybath> I'm in archlinux they just ignored me :(
[19:43] <_ramok> ppf, thanks! i just can't start zookeeper with systemctl start ... since the system can't find a service
[19:43] <sathya> ppf_: no such file or directory for alsamixer
[19:43] <ppf_> _ramok: yeah my bad, your question scrolled out of view
[19:43] <sathya> ppf_: I tried the whole location
[19:44] <OerHeks> stickybath, so you are in the wrong channel now, no arch support here
[19:44] <ppf_> _ramok: enable whatever you use to start it
[19:44] <_ramok> ppf_: i can start it with /etc/init.d/zookeeper
[19:44] <stickybath> I mean it's more of a gnome issue than an arch issue.
[19:44] <stickybath> but point taken.
[19:44] <ppf_> _ramok: you quoted a systemctl command
[19:45] <_ramok> ppf_: /etc/init.d/zookeeper restart
[19:45] <_ramok> [ ok ] Restarting zookeeper (via systemctl): zookeeper.service.
[19:45] <_ramok> so it seems like it's using systemctl
[19:45] <ppf_> _ramok: paste the output of systemctl enable mesos zookeeper
[19:45] <OerHeks> _ramok, look for zookeeperd ( mind the d at the end)
[19:46] <CarpeNoctem> hi
[19:46] <V7> How change wifi driver to iwlwifi ?
[19:47] <OerHeks> V7, find the source and build a newer version yourself?
[19:48] <V7> OerHeks: Am I right ... my wifi connections stays allright, but network connections breaks off after every 5 mins
[19:48] <V7> I don't know what to do ..
[19:48] <V7> Would that driver help me ?
[19:48] <OerHeks> V7, wired connections break off?
[19:49] <V7> OerHeks: WiFi
[19:49] <debkad> i think it is ipv6
[19:50] <debkad> try to ignore/disable it
[19:50] <V7> I'll try debkad
[19:50] <OerHeks> this page suggest dropping 11N > http://askubuntu.com/questions/529347/how-do-i-keep-my-wifi-from-dropping-out
[19:51] <pwca> hi, does Netflix not work in Opera?
[19:51] <OerHeks> but i wonder the 5 minute issue
[19:52] <V7> debkad: Doesn't help
[19:52] <V7> OerHeks: Driver which now is used is rtlwifi
[19:52] <debkad> V7: ipv6 disabled?
[19:52] <V7> debkad: Yup, it is
[19:53] <kaidsf> Can't seem to verify a gpg signature in xubuntu 16.04...I have tried it terminal and with GPA and am very incompetent at both so it might be my fault
[19:53] <debkad> V7: you used sysctl for that?
[19:54] <noemily> hi!!
[19:54] <kaidsf> its a .sig directory but the terminal says "no public key found:
[19:54] <kaidsf> I got it from the Veracrypt site....what am I doing wrong?
[19:54] <kaidsf> "gpg --verify veracrypt-1.19-setup.tar.bz2.sig veracrypt-1.19-setup.tar.bz2" is the command I tried
[19:55] <V7> debkad: No
[19:55] <kaidsf> when I try to open the .sig file using gpa to import it and try there it says "no keys found"
[19:55] <debkad> V7: i see, because sometimes you must reboot to make effect
[19:55] <V7> debkad: I ignored it in WiFi connection by Network manager
[19:56] <debkad> V7: see what say ifconfig
[19:56] <debkad> if it say something like addr6 then it still using ipv6
[19:57] <V7> debkad: I found inet6 addr
[19:57] <debkad> so it is enabled :(
[19:57] <V7> debkad: I found it in lo
[19:57] <V7> No in WiFi
[19:57] <V7> Not *
[19:57] <debkad> V7: http://askubuntu.com/questions/309461/how-to-disable-ipv6-permanently
[19:57] <debkad> ok
[20:02] <V7> debkad: I've add this line "net.ipv6.conf.wlp2s0.disable_ipv6 = 1" to sysctl file and have ran command "sudo sysctl -p" to make an effect
[20:02] <V7> Waiting to wifi drop :)
[20:03] <debkad> haha :)
[20:07] <V7> debkad: Network connection - lost :(
[20:07] <V7> Google.com - is unknown host :D
[20:08] <debkad> :((
[20:08] <V7> debkad: I'm restarting WiFi adapter and all okay
[20:08] <V7> After ~5 mins - Network connection disspaears
[20:09] <V7> Sometimes ~2
[20:09] <debkad> yeah that happen to me too until i disabled ipv6, may be try the link from OerHeks
[20:12] <guest342> i want to install ubuntu but will it run smoothyl?
[20:12] <V7> OerHeks: I have no Intel WiFi card ))
[20:13] <V7> Realtek
[20:13] <qfixer> uh
[20:13] <qfixer> quantibility here
[20:13] <qfixer> k1l_, still didn't work
[20:13] <qfixer> usermod: user quantibiliy is currently used by process 1915
[20:13] <guest342> help
[20:14] <qfixer> guest342, just ask they will
[20:14] <qfixer> waiting for reply but brb
[20:14] <guest342> pfixer i want to install ubuntu but my concern is if it will run smoothly. I am now running windows
[20:15] <ppf_> qfixer: what is process 1915?
[20:15] <k1l_> qfixer: did you try the recovery?
[20:15] <ppf_> guest342: it will run smoothly
[20:16] <OerHeks> guest342, only one way to find out
[20:16] <CodeMouse92> I cannot delete an account from Online Accounts - clicking Remove Account does nothing at all. How can I remove it via the command line?
[20:16] <guest342> ppf but i mean like is my computer ready for it
[20:17] <CodeMouse92> (Nevermind, got it)
[20:17] <ppf_> guest342: sure it is
[20:17] <ppf_> worst case scenario: unity is laggy, but then just pick another DE
[20:17] <MWM> Ive installed a new drive and now cannot get access to my old files from the old install.  cannot mount the old partition that they were on
[20:17] <pwca> howdy, does Netflix not work in Opera?
[20:18] <sancho_> hi everybody! i have problem with my wireless network adapter and my ethernet pci is not working anymore. how could i install wireless drivers while offline on a fresh xubuntu 16.04.1 install? thanks for your help!
[20:18] <guest342> ppf i just want it to work and not do tinkering
[20:18] <ppf_> install lubuntu then
[20:18] <ppf_> or xubuntu
[20:18] <ppf_> which ever looks nicer to you
[20:18] <pwca> Ubuntu Gnome is wonderful.
[20:18] <ppf_> guest342: or stick with windows
[20:19] <pwca> Unity is really bad.
[20:19] <OerHeks> guest342, without proper system specs info, we cannot tell
[20:19] <OerHeks> pwca, that is not helpfull
[20:19] <pwca> OerHeks: that sentence has no information content.
[20:20] <guest342> oerheks ok how can I give you the specs easily - any tool?
[20:20] <ppf_> pwca: it's all about subtext
[20:20] <pwca> oh, in that case.
[20:20] <pwca> OerHeks: I am sorry to hear that. :<
[20:20] <ppf_> guest342: why are you looking to install ubuntu
[20:21] <qfixer> ppf_, uh
[20:21] <guest342> ppf because i heared it is free and it is better than windows
[20:21] <ppf_> qfixer: ps auxf | grep 1915
[20:21] <qfixer> usermod: user quantibiliy is currently used by process 1915
[20:21] <OerHeks> pwca, windows comes with system information somewhere, cpu, ram and most important videocard
[20:21] <ppf_> guest342: why don't you try a live system first and see if yo ulike it
[20:21] <qfixer> oh ok
[20:21] <qfixer> hold on
[20:21] <MWM> it is free and better than windows, but you have to do the tinkering.  Thats what drives many away from windows... the fact that they cannot tinker
[20:22] <nacc> guest342: it's all relative; some things are only supported under windows as well.
[20:22] <k1l_> qfixer: try the recovery. you cant be logged in as that user.
[20:22] <nacc> guest342: trying the live USB is probably the best suggestion
[20:22] <guest342> ppf i tired ubuntu already on another persons computer and it seemed to look beautiful
[20:22] <pwca> OerHeks: you should tell guest342.
[20:22] <ppf_> because if you 'just want it to work' chances are that you might have a very bad experience from this
[20:22] <qfixer> sudo ps auxf | grep 1915
[20:22] <qfixer> qfixer    9163  0.0  0.0  14224   944 pts/4    S+   16:22   0:00                  \_ grep --color=auto 1915
[20:22] <qfixer> quantib+  1915  0.0  0.0  45372  5036 ?        Ss   14:05   0:00 /lib/systemd/systemd --user
[20:22] <guest342> I just have a conern it will run slow on mine
[20:23] <ppf_> qfixer: that's missing a bit
[20:23] <qfixer> hold on
[20:23] <ppf_> qfixer: follow k1l_ original advice
[20:23] <ppf_> boot to the rescue console
[20:23] <qfixer> qfixer@michael-HP:~$ sudo ps auxf | grep 1915
[20:23] <qfixer> qfixer    9163  0.0  0.0  14224   944 pts/4    S+   16:22   0:00                  \_ grep --color=auto 1915
[20:23] <qfixer> quantib+  1915  0.0  0.0  45372  5036 ?        Ss   14:05   0:00 /lib/systemd/systemd --user
[20:23] <guest342> ppf that is why i come to you guys to help me figure out if it will be a smooth ride
[20:23] <qfixer> thats what i got
[20:23] <ppf_> guest342: try the live system, you'll get an impression of the performance
[20:23] <nacc> guest342: it's not something we can really speculate on
[20:24] <pwca> yowza, does Netflix not work in Opera?
[20:24] <guest342> nacc o i never thought it would be a hit or a miss kind a thing
[20:24] <nacc> guest342: you weren't asking if ubuntu would work on your laptop, but on 'if it will be a smooth ride'. That seems highly subjective
[20:24] <MWM> Ive installed a new drive and now cannot get access to my old files from the old install.  cannot mount the old partition that they were on.  "partition already mounted or busy..." or something
[20:25] <qfixer> uh
[20:25] <qfixer> hmm
[20:25] <nacc> guest342: and you seemed interested in the speed/performance, which again can be subjective (particularly for UI things) and is very tied to the graphics card(s) in use
[20:25] <perrucho> hello
[20:25] <qfixer> i don't know what to do??
[20:25] <MWM> there doesnt seem to be a UUID for the partition either
[20:25] <guest342> nacc ok I will try to clarify, I want to not have to tinker to get things working as I am not very technical,  I would like things to be fast as in smooth like butter
[20:25] <perrucho> spanish
[20:26] <qfixer>  so just launch into recovery as a different user right?
[20:26] <ppf_> !es | perrucho
[20:26] <perrucho> soy nuevo ubuntu ayuda help mi cfg ubuntu
[20:26] <ppf_> qfixer: no
[20:26] <guest342> narc i have an ATI Radeon HD 5450 and 3 gb of ram
[20:26] <qfixer> ppf_, then?\
[20:26] <ppf_> boot the recovery mode
[20:26] <qfixer> ok
[20:26] <ppf_> that's 'a different user' enough
[20:26] <qfixer> then?
[20:26] <qfixer> ok
[20:26] <qfixer> so
[20:26] <nacc> guest342: whether you have to tinker or not would be dtermined by your experience with the live usb (I think), where you can also install new pacakges, etc
[20:26] <guest342> also intel celeron 2.6 dual
[20:26] <nacc> guest342: 'fast as in smooth like butter' is 100% not a metric, sorry -- so again, it's very subjective
[20:26] <qfixer> do that and then do the code? cause this is driving me nuts and its all my fault
[20:26] <qfixer> so  whatever
[20:27] <ppf_> qfixer: yes, run the usermod command on the rescue console
[20:27] <qfixer> alright going to do recovery
[20:27] <Soul_Sample> well, except for having to reinstall a couple of staem games, my 16.04.1 clean install is done
[20:27] <Soul_Sample> i betrayed ubuntu by switching to elementary for a month, never again!
[20:28] <hans109h> Soul_Sample, now you're ready for 16.10
[20:28] <Soul_Sample> hans109h: I'm considering it, actually :D
[20:28] <guest342> nacc i have no idea then how to express it, i mean when it is freezing most of us can say we experience cold, like we can say we experience more heat than cold shivers in the summer for the vast majority of healthy people. I mean this in the same way with smooth, like I click on an app or have several apps open and things just still seem to go ok and no lagging windows and such
[20:28] <Soul_Sample> hans109h: but the changelog doesn't excite me much and this is an LTS after all
[20:29] <hans109h> Soul_Sample, I upgraded my laptop to 16.10 with very minor issues, then did the server last night and that went very well.
[20:29] <hans109h> It's not like the switch from 14 or 15....which ever one implimented systemd
[20:29] <ppf_> guest342: there's no way we can guess how the experience will be for you
[20:29] <ppf_> you need to try the live system
[20:29] <ppf_> maybe compare a few DEs
[20:29] <Soul_Sample> hans109h: the only thing that's sort of interesting is the update to the gnome stack of apps, mainly nautilus
[20:29] <perrucho> debian?
[20:30] <Soul_Sample> hans109h: kernel 4.8 is also nice, but I don't need much of what it provides
[20:30] <ppf_> !es | perrucho
[20:30] <perrucho> dime
[20:30] <ppf_> ubottu: why you no talk
[20:30] <guest342> yeah i think i will stay with windows for now
[20:30] <hans109h> Soul_Sample, correct, dconf editor is a major improvement, and nautilus of course...I haven't used many of the others but there was one that seemed to be working a lot better---cant recall.
[20:30] <perrucho> now linux sorry
[20:30] <guest342> have a good evening all!
[20:30] <nacc> guest342: yes, that depends on your hardware, and what applications you mean, etc.
[20:30] <MWM> no one wants to help me mount a partition with no UUID so I can recover my files?
[20:30] <nacc> guest342: please just try the live usb if you want
[20:31] <ppf_> MWM: you need to spill some more details
[20:31] <ppf_> e.g. [paste som errors or so
[20:31] <MWM> hold on... I have to switch machines to paste
[20:32] <perrucho> soy nuevo en linux ayuda hekp mi
[20:32] <ppf_> !es | perrucho
[20:32] <k1l_> perrucho: only english in here. and only technical ubuntu support. thanks
[20:32] <perrucho> ok sorry
[20:32] <paranoidabhi> on fsck I get http://imgur.com/gKo4dQA
[20:33] <paranoidabhi> any ideas?
[20:33] <paranoidabhi> I was upgrading from 16.04 to 16.10
[20:33] <paranoidabhi> on recovery mode it works
[20:34] <MWM> Ive tried to mount the drive "mount /dev/sdx# /mountpoint" and get: device is already mounted or busy
[20:34] <qfixer> OK, that didn't do nothing said Cannot unlock /ect/passwrd blah blah blah
[20:34] <qfixer> what next
[20:34] <qfixer> wait
[20:34] <nacc> MWM: is it already mounted?
[20:34] <qfixer> cannot LOCK
[20:34] <k1l_> qfixer: first make the /partition read+writable (rw) and not only ro
[20:35]  * qfixer smh
[20:35] <qfixer> lol
[20:35] <qfixer> ok so what is the command for that?
[20:35] <k1l_> qfixer: (in recovery)
[20:35] <MWM> lsblk does not show a mountpoint for it and I cannot see it anywhere else
[20:35] <nacc> MWM: sorry, can you start over (I missed the context)
[20:35] <nacc> MWM: look maybe in /dev/disk ?
[20:36] <MWM> there are times when the mount command throws an error about not seeing in the fstab...but no UUID is available to put it there
[20:36] <k1l_> qfixer: if the menu doesnt offer you a settings for that, you can do it with "mount -o remount,rw /"
[20:36] <qfixer> ok no problem will do
[20:36] <ppf_> MWM: the busy part usually refers to /mountpoint
[20:36] <qfixer> it offers settings just forever lol
[20:36] <ppf_> is the mountpoint open in the terminal or something
[20:37] <MWM> when I got the busy message I tried "umount -a" and then reissued the mount command with the same result
[20:37] <MWM> nacc: /dev/disk?  can you clarify?
[20:37] <qfixer> ugh
[20:37] <qfixer> bbiam
[20:38] <nacc> MWM: /dev/disk/by-{...} has all the disks the kernel sees
[20:39] <k1l_> MWM: why umount all?
[20:39] <MWM> let me clarify: lsblk does show the disk, but no UUID.  I am looking into /dev/disk now as well
[20:39] <nacc> MWM: /dev/disk/by-uuid/ would show the the disks with known UUIDs
[20:39] <k1l_> MWM: and every partition got a uuid. seems you try the sledgehammer method and dont understand the risks
[20:39] <MWM> umount all because the partition was "already mounted" so I thought to unmount and start over
[20:39] <k1l_> MWM: use blkid
[20:40] <ppf_> MWM: please paste the ooutput of mount, lsblk and cat /proc/cmdline
[20:40] <ppf_> and blkid
[20:40] <k1l_> MWM: then umount one specific partition
[20:41] <MWM> noted for the future.  for now, blkid does not show the partition
[20:42] <ppf_> MWM: sudo blkid
[20:42] <k1l_> MWM: sudo parted -l   and sudo blkid in a pastebin please
[20:42] <MWM> PARTUUID is equal to UUID?
[20:43] <ppf_> MWM: no
[20:43] <k1l_> no
[20:43] <k1l_> partuuid is a gpt feature. uuid is a filesystem feature
[20:43] <MWM> sudo blkid shows PARTUUID for the partition I am after.  WOUlsd you still like the pastebin?
[20:44] <ppf_> MWM: show us some pastes
[20:44] <MWM> Perhaps I need to go more in depth... I added a SSD and just did a fresh install.  I want to access the old install (which is what we are talking about)
[20:44] <MWM> I planned to mount the partition and move the files I wanted with dd and then nuke the drive.... not so simple.
[20:45] <OerHeks> MWM, old install, this is new info
[20:45] <MWM> Which pastes?  sudo parted -l ?
[20:45] <ppf_> yes
[20:45] <ppf_> and blkid and mount and cat /proc/cmdline
[20:46] <MWM> http://pastebin.com/SfJ4ydRH  <- not sure I did that right
[20:47] <quantibility> Please make sure that directory "/home/quantibiliy/Downloads" exists or configure it with blueman-services now i get this
[20:48] <MWM> http://pastebin.com/8AAEK7da <-- sudo blkid
[20:48] <k1l_> MWM: so what partition is it you want to mount? and what was on that partition before?
[20:48] <k1l_> or disk
[20:49] <quantibility> still with the quantibiliy this is driving me nuts
[20:49] <MWM> sda1 is 100gb partition that Ubuntu used to live on
[20:50] <MWM> I added sdb (a new SSD) and made a fresh install on it... now I want to grab my old files from sda1
[20:50] <k1l_> quantibility: ok, it looks like the blueman service is looking for a file in the old named users home Download folder. need to reconfigure blueman
[20:51] <k1l_> MWM: are you sure the disk sda is fine? and you did not mess with the partitions(table)? because the output from parted doesnt seem correct
[20:51] <MWM> what I am look for specifically is the contents of ~/Downloads and ~/Pictures ...etc
[20:52] <ppf_> MWM: what about mount and cat /proc/cmdline
[20:52] <MWM> k1l the disk was fine until I rotated it out
[20:53] <ppf_> yeah the output seems broken
[20:54] <MWM> cat /proc/cmdline :BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-31-generic root=UUID=f99878a6-b917-4ad4-a469-471434b81036 ro rootflags=subvol=@ quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[20:55] <MWM> http://pastebin.com/XaZZTpZD <- mount
[20:58] <MWM> SMART info for the drive checks out fine
[20:59] <ppf_> it's not a physical issue, most likely
[20:59] <ppf_> but the partition table could be broken
[21:00] <ppf_> can you boot a live disk and check blkid there?
[21:00] <debkad> is the UUID match?
[21:00] <MWM> ppf do I have any options at this point?  Id hate to rebuild all my data
[21:00] <MWM> I had the same issue from a live disk
[21:01] <Bashing-om> MWM: A thought .. switching drives around .. and dust got in the port(s)/connectors ?
[21:01] <k1l_> MWM: what filesystems were on sda before?
[21:02] <ppf_> debkad: the drive has no uuid in blkid
[21:02] <ppf_> which is not supposed to happen ;)
[21:02] <MWM> root fs was btrfs and the rest was ext4
[21:02] <debkad> yeah that weird
[21:02] <k1l_> MWM: parted and blkid (and the rest of the system) cant detect any filesystem on that sda. besides the one partition with swap.
[21:02] <ppf_> MWM: did you physically move the drives around?
[21:02] <k1l_> uuids are FS features. so if there is no FS there is no uuid
[21:02] <ppf_> tried the nintendo-shuffle?
[21:03] <MWM> ppf yes I wanted my ssd in the first slot so I moved it... I dont know why it was listed as adb
[21:03] <MWM> *sdb
[21:03] <pwca> hej, does Netflix not work in Opera?
[21:03] <MWM> I was hoping to avoid shuffling, but if I must, I must
[21:04] <ppf_> MWM: give it a shot
[21:04] <marcosps1> Hi guys, I'm trying to add a new comment here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/622984/touchpad-not-working-after-suspend-on-asus-a450l/837301#837301
[21:04] <marcosps1> but I need more 50 reputation points.
[21:04] <ppf_> power down, unplug the drive and plug it back in
[21:04] <marcosps1> Do I need special powers for trying to help someone? :(
[21:04] <k1l_> pwca: i know it works in chrome and with maybe in firefox
[21:05] <pwca> k1l_: yeah, it works in Chrome.
[21:05] <MWM> well guys I will stop back in after shuffling things around.  On the off chance that I can boot back into the old install what is the best wat toaccomplish this?
[21:05] <ppf_> MWM: you don't need to move drives around
[21:06] <ppf_> just unplug it, maybe blow on the connector a bit and plug it back in
[21:06] <MWM> alright, will do.  I will stop back in a bit
[21:07] <blur> #synergy
[21:07] <marcosps1> ppf_, can I ask you, to ask the user in this bug (http://askubuntu.com/questions/622984/touchpad-not-working-after-suspend-on-asus-a450l/837301#837301) to send his dmidecode output?
[21:11] <marcosps> ppf_, around?
[21:11] <Soul_Sample> is this a new thing or maybe I didn't notice - but why does ubuntu create home folders with permissions that allow users to access each other's home folders?
[21:12] <OerHeks> Soul_Sample, convenience, use encrypted home to avoid that
[21:13] <Soul_Sample> OerHeks: that's a weird convenience, I just changed permissions so that's okay, but I don't understand the logic behind it
[21:14] <OerHeks> Why should there be a logical reason, windows does it too, without the option to encrypt.
[21:14] <Soul_Sample> OerHeks: last time I tried to access other user's files under windows, it said that I can't
[21:15] <Soul_Sample> and as far as I remember, ubuntu did that as well. i could be wrong
[21:17] <UrsaTempest> That's more because Windows can't read ext4, I think?
[21:17] <UrsaTempest> You need to install extra driver adn so on and so forth
[21:17] <Soul_Sample> I meant - when I tried to access files from an other WINDOWS user
[21:17] <Soul_Sample> in a multi-user setup
[21:18] <UrsaTempest> But it also mean if you change your OS for one reason or another, you can just re-use your /home without fearing it's locked out.
[21:18] <UrsaTempest> Oh, other user on Windows. ...I confess it's been some time since I have multi-user account on Windows.
[21:18] <MWM> Im baaaaack :)
[21:19] <Soul_Sample> UrsaTempest: I did that a lot of times, as long as it's not encrypted you can chown it anyway, but I'm still baffled that they defaulted to creating publicly accessible home folders
[21:19] <guy-that-you-jus> hi
[21:19] <guy-that-you-jus> i was just here
[21:19] <htafdresgi> my ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't take me to a tty! help!
[21:19] <htafdresgi> it doesn't do anything
[21:19] <guy-that-you-jus> and i launched the live ubuntu as recommended and it runs fine
[21:19]  * htafdresgi using 16.04.1
[21:19] <guy-that-you-jus> but the bar on the left is annoying
[21:20] <MWM> I am still showing PARTUUID for the disk/partitions on it.  Disconnection and reconnecting the cable made the disk move from /dev/sda to /dev/sdd
[21:20] <marcosps> MWM, do earn reputation on askbuntu, I need to receive users' votes?
[21:20] <marcosps> s/do/to
[21:21] <guy-that-you-jus> i am running the 16.04.1 can the launcher at the left moved down?
[21:21] <MWM> marcosps I havent got a clue actually.  Ive never posted on askubuntu.  Ive done alot of reading there though
[21:22] <UrsaTempest> Download Ubuntu Tweak Tool, guy-that-you-jus. Then set Panel to Bottom.
[21:22] <UrsaTempest> Try to Google it, though. I don't remember the exact step.
[21:22] <marcosps> MWM, I'm trying to ask for a dmidecode output of an user, but it says that I need 50 reputation...
[21:22] <MWM> guy-that-you-jus you can move around the launcher; I dont know how without searching but I am fairly certain you can move it
[21:22] <guy-that-you-jus> okay so i am about to take the plunge
[21:22] <tomreyn> guy-that-you-jus: i don't really know. but you could check the preferences available to configure / modify the dash. there is also unity-tweak-tool, i think. maybe it can do this.
[21:23] <guy-that-you-jus> and install unity
[21:23] <UrsaTempest> Right, that's the term.
[21:23] <UrsaTempest> Unity Tweak Tool.
[21:23] <tomreyn> guy-that-you-jus: or you could switch to a different desktop environment altogether
[21:23] <marcosps> MWM, this users seem to be able to help http://askubuntu.com/questions/622984/touchpad-not-working-after-suspend-on-asus-a450l/837301#837301
[21:23] <guy-that-you-jus> tomreyn is there something wrong with unity?
[21:23] <MWM> I reccoment plasma DE myself.  very pretty
[21:23] <marcosps> MWM, but I can't post another comment
[21:23] <tomreyn> guy-that-you-jus: wrong? no.
[21:23] <marcosps> :(
[21:23] <guy-that-you-jus> tomreyn, i just clicked the audio file and rythmbox fired up but after it minimialized i could not find it anymore
[21:24] <UrsaTempest> Try checking top panel?
[21:24] <MWM> marcosps : start at the beginning... what is the problem?
[21:24] <UrsaTempest> Unity System Tray is on top panel, instead of leftmost bottom.
[21:24] <tomreyn> guy-that-you-jus: i see
[21:25] <UrsaTempest> Err, rightmost bottom
[21:25] <UrsaTempest> Damn, I must be tired...
[21:25] <marcosps> MWM, I'm trying to fix a kernel problem, so Linus picked up my patch. But, there are still some information needed to fix it complitely, so I would like to ask the user to execute "dmidecode" command and post the output
[21:25] <guy-that-you-jus> okay lads
[21:25] <MWM> marcosps normally it will say that the questions has "attracted low quality or spam answers" and has been locked or something.  I dont know why you cant post
[21:25] <guy-that-you-jus> i am going to install ubuntu!
[21:26] <UrsaTempest> Good luck!
[21:26] <MWM> perhaps there is a browser setting interfearing?  do you have an add blocker of some sort?  maybe a different browser would work
[21:26] <pwca> saluton, does Netflix not work in Opera?
[21:26] <marcosps> MWM, I'm just trying to fix kernel problems. And it seems this askbuntu doesn't like it.
[21:26] <guy-that-you-jus> ah yes netflix does it work on linux firefox?
[21:26] <nicomachus> guy-that-you-jus: no, not without a special add-on
[21:26] <k1l_> pwca: no it doesnt
[21:26] <marcosps> MWM, good ideia.
[21:27] <k1l_> guy-that-you-jus: yes.
[21:27] <pwca> k1l_: why not?
[21:27] <MWM> I know hulu doesnt work.... cant remeber what the reason was though
[21:27] <guy-that-you-jus> alright so netflix works in firefox? confused
[21:27] <nicomachus> k1l_: uhh... no it doesn't. Not without their silverlight-alternative plugin
[21:28] <pwca> Netflix works in Chrome.
[21:28] <k1l_> pwca: seems like it should work with opera since opera 34
[21:28] <pwca> using Pipelight.
[21:28] <pwca> k1l_: well, it doesn't.
[21:28] <marcosps> MWM, what a damn thing this askbuntu... I disabled my adblock and it's not working either.
[21:29] <pwca> and I am trying to find out why, but I am stuck.
[21:29] <k1l_> pwca: http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/2016/01/first-opera-beta-update-2016/#comment-2457400236
[21:29] <pwca> when I try to play a video I get this page asking me to install Silverlight.
[21:29] <nicomachus> yea because it doesn't allow DRM content
[21:30] <dajjen> Tag/tag.png
[21:30] <dajjen> Needs Expansion
[21:30] <dajjen> This article is incomplete, and needs to be expanded. More info...
[21:30] <dajjen> Contents
[21:30] <dajjen> Installing Irssi
[21:30] <dajjen> Using Irssi
[21:30] <nicomachus> !paste | dajjen
[21:31] <pwca> k1l_: I have chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra, I have used --user-agent command line switch, and I have compatible Widevine libraries (through Pipelight).
[21:31] <dajjen> command. There is also great documentation on the Irssi website.
[21:31] <dajjen> Irssi can handle multiple connections to several different servers at once. As such, it is possible to be active in several channels on different networks at the same time. For example, to connect to the IRC server freenode, type the command:
[21:31] <dajjen> If you also wanted to connect to the EFNet network, then you would also issue the command:
[21:31] <dajjen> You would now be connected to two servers at the same time. The server that you are connected to is identified in the status bar at the bottom. To switch between servers, as also identified in the status bar, type the keyboard shortcut ctrl+x.
[21:31] <nicomachus> dajjen: stop
[21:31] <dajjen> At this point, you should be familiar with two other commands: /server and /disconnect. /server has the same syntax as /connect, except it tells Irssi to keep a connection to only one server. So, if you wanted to connect to Undernet, while also connected to Freenode and EFNet, and you typed /server irc.undernet.org, you would disconnect from Freenode and EFNet, and only be connected to Undernet. The other
[21:32] <k1l_> pwca: then i dont know. see if other did get it running with opera. the command i linked said it should work
[21:32] <pwca> k1l_: it doesn't work.
[21:33] <marcosps> nicomachus, why can't I edit my own post in askbuntu?
[21:34] <nicomachus> marcosps: idk, I don't run the site.
[21:34] <marcosps> ...
[21:34] <marcosps> there is someone that I can contact to have some kind of support?
[21:34] <tgm4883> marcosps: what post?
[21:35] <afterkeys> what you need
[21:35] <marcosps> tgm4883, http://askubuntu.com/questions/622984/touchpad-not-working-after-suspend-on-asus-a450l/837301#837301
[21:35] <k1l_> marcosps: add a comment. use that
[21:35] <marcosps> tgm4883, I added a comment, the mod just removed.
[21:35] <tgm4883> ok
[21:36] <marcosps> k1l_, "You must have 50 reputation"
[21:36] <marcosps> Man, this is an horrible system.
[21:36] <marcosps> Man, this is a horrible system.
[21:36] <marcosps> I'm just trying to help, you keep removing posts and telling people they need to have "reputation" to add a simply comment?
[21:37] <nicomachus> marcosps: don't say "you", no one here runs that website. this is an all-volunteer support channel.
[21:37] <k1l_> marcosps: this team in here is not related to the askubuntu team. so you are blaming the wrong volunteers :/
[21:37] <afterkeys> hold on hold on a second what's going on guysd
[21:37] <marcosps> =/
[21:37] <marcosps> sorry guys, but it's frustrating.
[21:38] <marcosps> I don't even run ubuntu here, I'm just trying to create a better kernel fix.
[21:38] <afterkeys> what happened to your ubuntu ?
[21:41] <k1l_> marcosps: one of them should help you on that issue: http://askubuntu.com/users?tab=moderators
[21:42] <afterkeys> how to join ubuntu tea m ?
[21:43] <id01>  Anyone know a good irc client?
[21:44] <marcosps> k1l_, thanks, I'm checking how to ask questions to moderators...
[21:45] <glados_> Our raid5 doesn't work anymore. We let a disk fail, we removed it, we started it with the new disk (bigger size) in, and then grub didn't wanna start properly (grub legacy just gave the cursor). Plugging the old disk back in doesn't work and now it sees /dev/md1 as inactive
[21:48] <pwca> good evening, does Netflix not work in Opera?
[21:50] <MWM> back again:  removed drive with the fresh install and tried to boot from the old installation > got a prompt for grub rescue
[21:50] <afterkeys> id01 hexchat
[21:50] <MWM> google and I are going to have a heyday with this one, but before that, is there any advice from in here?
[21:52] <lordcirth> MWM, you may want to briefly restate your issue
[21:54] <MWM> brief?  :) ... I added an SSD to my machine.  I had intended to make a fresh install on the ssd and move files from the old install afterwards.  The old install will not mount and shows no UUID
[21:54] <k1l_> MWM: "somehow" the filesystems are corrupted on that drive. you could try if testdisk can fix it. but there is a risk to make it worse, everytime you touch that disk with writing to it.
[21:55] <MWM> Its worth a shot.  There is nothing irreplacable on there... just time consuming to replace
[21:56] <MWM> this will be included in a live disk?  looks to be....
[21:56] <MWM> Nm it does not appear to be
[21:57] <k1l_> sudo apt-get install testdisk
[21:58] <quantibility> ugh
[22:17] <colby> Hello, I was told to install ubuntu dual boot onto my msi laptop I need to "When starting the Ubuntu installation you have to add the kernel option "libata.force=noncq". "  Any advice for a newbie on how I would do this? and how I disable it afterwards? Appreciated.
[22:19] <ivan> colby: the very first menu screen when the ubuntu cd boots, where you pick whether to try or install
[22:19] <ivan> colby: I don't think you have to disable it afterwards
[22:19] <k1l_> !nomodeset
[22:20] <k1l_> colby: use this howto for the nomodeset option on the live cd. but instead of adding nomodeset use your kernelmode
[22:21] <colby> lemme look that over. And While im here, Is the dual boot install done under Try ubuntu or install?
[22:22] <k1l_> colby: try ubuntu starts a live desktop first. but you can start the installer from thre too
[22:22] <k1l_> *there
[22:23] <colby> ahah. my luck that link you set me has two broken images, the ones for adjusting the livecd :p
[22:23] <k1l_> colby: but the text still works :)
[22:24] <grekkos> can anyone help me? I screwed up package manager somehow -- I don't know what I did I just came back and it was like this https://gist.github.com/hk0i/ba2415e053f249ffd9e3dc42d040d331 -- I have something installed which seems like it depends on two separate packages that are unable to co-exist
[22:24] <colby> Ironically I need ubuntu to edit and run a kernal for a project OS. But to do so I have to edit the kernal for the ubuntu itself. Doing the project to do the project.
[22:24] <glados_> raid5 /dev/md1 is inactive and I can't reassemble it, any ideas?
[22:27] <grekkos> any ideas on that?
[22:32] <\9> grekkos: seems to me that you're trying to install the 32-bit dev files on top of 64-bit ones
[22:33] <grekkos> \9: apt-get seems to be trying to do that, and I can't use it until i fix this dependency issue... I'm not sure how to resolve this
[22:33] <Bashing-om> grekkos: Humm ,, I agree .. looks like you can install either ,, but not both .. Bug report time to get the dependency tree corrected ?
[22:34] <boze> I've had this problem where each time I reboot and open chrome I have to sign into my profile again. I went through every trouble shooting thing possible with google tech support including deleting the ~/.config/google-chrome dir and reinstalling. I'd hate to have to format the hard drive right now and start over, but I can't think of anything else to try. Around the same time PHPstorm started throwing out of memory errors when editing JS files... Not sure
[22:34] <boze> it thats related
[22:34] <\9> grekkos: did you try to install the gcc-5-multilib package, and the others it listed?
[22:34] <\9> or did it just start installing that for some other reason?
[22:35] <grekkos> \9: if I did it must have been weeks ago, I haven't installed anything recently. I'm going through the history and I found a bunch of packages it looks like I was trying to build centerim from source. I did install build-essential which maybe included some of those
[22:35] <grekkos> \9: is it safe to do a dpkg --remove on all of those packages?
[22:36] <\9> i don't think build-essential pulls in any of these
[22:36] <\9> grekkos: yeah i don't think they're anyhow important. i don't have them installed. should be fine to remove them
[22:37] <grekkos> i need to get them back on at some point i guess for gcc
[22:38] <grekkos> I can't seem to get rid of them either
[22:39] <grekkos> wait maybe I got it
[22:40] <grekkos> I had to manually remove it tracing each dependency
[22:40] <grekkos> \9: thanks for the help
[22:40] <\9> np
[22:44] <gray> Anyone here?
[22:44] <lordcirth> gray, yes
[22:44] <pwca> merhaba, does Netflix not work in Opera?
[22:44] <gray> Trying to move a .conf file to a weird directory via terminal because I need root access but it's giving me "no such file or directory" when I try
[22:45] <pwca> what a cryptic message.
[22:45] <pwca> what could that possibly imply.
[22:46] <gray> wait, it did it :D
[22:46] <OverCoder> pwca: netflix runs in webkit, why would it not
[22:47] <pwca> OverCoder: I don't know, but it doesn't work.
[22:52] <k1l_> pwca: without more details you wont get more help. i linked you a comment on the opera blog by a developer that it should work.
[22:53] <pwca> k1l_: and it doesn't work.
[22:53] <pwca> I've tried using Pipelight and enabled all the relevant plugins.
[22:53] <pwca> it works in Chrome, but not in Opera.
[22:53] <axsuul> I'm trying to restart a service in root's crontab with the command `/usr/sbin/service restart <service>`. I see in the logs `/var/log/syslog` that it runs the command HOWEVER there's no effect and the service doesn't actually restart. Am I doing something wrong?
[22:53] <pwca> Opera is not using Turbo or VPN.
[22:54] <pwca> everything is up to date and all recommended packages are installed.
[22:54] <paddymahoney> hi all, I'm in the midst of a yaketty upgrade, and I'm running into: python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat : Conflicts: packagekit
[22:54] <paddymahoney>                               Conflicts: packagekit:i386
[22:54] <paddymahoney>  python3-click-package : Conflicts: python3-click but 6.6-1 is to be installed
[22:54] <pwca> the message I get is to install Silverlight when I try to play a video.
[22:55] <pwca> I have chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra, I have used --user-agent command line switch, and I have compatible Widevine libraries (through Pipelight).
[22:56] <bryceml> does anyone know how to get dhcpv6 working with /etc/network/interfaces, I can't seem to make it work.
[22:56] <cokezero> i hate to ask, but can anyone explain the difference between the following commands "apt-get update" vs "apt-cache gencache"?  The two seem very similar and the documentation is not clear enough to explain it in a way I understand.
[22:56] <pwca> what details are you missing, k1l_?
[22:57] <debkad> cokezero: gencaches - Build both the package and source cache
[22:58] <michagogo> Has there been any word yet on what happens for 17.10?
[22:58] <k1l_> pwca: afaik chrome/chromium dont support npapi (silverlight) anymore. so be sure to have the correct user agent as chromium
[22:59] <michagogo> After Z Z, do we go with Aa Aa? (something aardvark?)
[22:59] <michagogo> Or wrap around to just plain A A? Or something else?
[22:59] <k1l_> michagogo: no. we will see after the 17.04 release
[22:59] <cokezero> debkad: are you saying both update the package cache but gencaches updates source as well?
[23:00] <debkad> cokezero: update, it used when something modified/added/removed from sources.list or sources.list.d
[23:00] <paddymahoney> pwca k1l_ I definitely also had to adjust the user agent in my browser in order to get past the silverlight install prompts
[23:01] <k1l_> pwca: and it should use the html5 streaming that way.
[23:01] <cokezero> debkad, i am sorry I am still not following.  when would i want to do one vs the other?
[23:01] <debkad> from apt-get help: update - Retrieve new lists of packages
[23:01] <pwca> well, I am adjusting my user agent and setting it to Chrome (Ubuntu) which works.
[23:03] <pwca> I mean it works in Chrome, but adjusting the user agent doesn't do shit in Opera.
[23:05] <grekkos> as anyone here set up a samba share on ubuntu before? I want to share some files to my mac, I thought samba might be faster than sshfs but I can't seem to get my mac to connect
[23:06] <Dykotomee> Hey guys. I've been trying for days to have my cloud-based Ubuntu server use Gmail as an SMTP, but none of the tutorials are working out, and now I think I've borked my postfix installation.
[23:06] <k1l_> pwca: check if that changing did work at all
[23:06] <Dykotomee> How do I cleanly remove postfix, etc.?
[23:06] <Dykotomee> I did apt remove postfix mailutils, then apt autoremove.
[23:06] <Dykotomee> Trying to install it again gives errors.
[23:08] <k1l_> Dykotomee: what error?
[23:08] <Dykotomee> Hold on a sec, I'll paste...
[23:08] <k1l_> please use paste.ubuntu.com
[23:09] <pwca> k1l_: what changing?
[23:09] <Dykotomee> Got it.
[23:09] <k1l_> pwca: of the user agent
[23:10] <pwca> k1l_: I checked it yesterday.
[23:10] <Dykotomee> k1l_: The problem was with an old conf file. I did an apt purge, then reinstalled, and that fixed it.
[23:10] <pwca> and again a couple of times today.
[23:10] <Dykotomee> Still...can't get smtp working. :(
[23:11] <Dykotomee> Lemme get to a point where something's not right though, have to go through all these steps again.
[23:13] <p1l0t> so if I tried to install ubuntu server on compaq proliant with a smart array controller and now it says drive array not configured and it can't see any harddrives am I dead in the water or can I fix it?
[23:14] <p1l0t> I guess it being version 9.10 wasn't a great idea but it's the only CD I had
[23:20] <champ>  #ubuntu
[23:22] <LordSesshomaru> hello, I'm attempting to convert video using ffmpeg, it is telling me that the aac encoder is experimental, which is not enabled and tells me to add -strict -2, which upon adding to the command line is seemingly ignored. Any ideas?
[23:22] <pwca> zdravo, does Netflix not work in Opera?
[23:26] <myraft> hi guys, after updating to 4.4.0.43 , my screen loads up with dithered screen. Had to go back to advanced , and choose 4.4.0.42. Any ideas or suggestions?
[23:28] <ThePiousPriest> Question, anyone when finished with a fresh install have the cursor stuck in the top left but when you right click it pops out a mneu? I'm on 16.10
[23:28] <neldogz> Will 4.4 kernel come to Ubuntu 16.04?
[23:28] <k1l_> neldogz: it is already
[23:28] <lordcirth> ThePiousPriest, did it work on a previous Ubuntu?
[23:28] <k1l_> !info linux-generic xenial
[23:28] <ThePiousPriest> Yes
[23:29] <neldogz> k1l_, correction, 4.8 ..
[23:29] <lordcirth>  !info linux-generic 16.10
[23:29] <lordcirth>  !info linux-generic yakkety
[23:29] <k1l_> neldogz: yes. it should land in xenial as testing kernel around now and will be put into the hardware enablement stack when 16.04.2 is released
[23:29] <neldogz> thats great! thank you very much :)
[23:30] <k1l_> !hwe | neldogz
[23:30] <myraft> Running 16.04 - update 4.4.0.43. The system boots to a dithered mini-screen (illegible). Any ideas or guidance ?
[23:30] <neldogz> ah feb 2017, works for me!
[23:31] <lordcirth> neldogz, just curious, what do you need 4.8 for?
[23:31] <neldogz> skylake and pascal support
[23:31] <kamiyaa_> hello?
[23:31] <ThePiousPriest> Also does anyone know why when I log in after installing Nvidia drivers in ubuntu it throws me back to the login prompt
[23:32] <neldogz> lordcirth, i have an i7-6700k Skylake processor and Nvidia GTX 1080 pascal card
[23:32] <lordcirth> kamiyaa_, hi
[23:32] <ThePiousPriest> Similar story Nelzdogz, 1070 here
[23:32] <lordcirth> My 1060 works just fine for me, isn't that the same gen?
[23:33] <kamiyaa_> lordcirth, hello :D. my first time using irc
[23:33] <neldogz> ThePiousPriest, you will need this: https://www.abiraf.com/blog/installing-nvidias-proprietary-gtx-1070-and-1080-driver-in-ubuntu-1604-how-to-get-around-the-out-of-range-error-and-a-guide-to-do-a-realtime-monitoring-of-your-gpu
[23:33] <lordcirth> kamiyaa_, welcome.  Did you have a support question?
[23:34] <Zgan> lordcirth: hi
[23:34] <myraft> guys - need some support
[23:34] <neldogz> ThePiousPriest, did you install the nvidia drivers from the additional drives menu?
[23:34] <kamiyaa_> lordcirth, yea, but it wasn't directed towards this irc. I just wanted to test it out and have some ppl to talk to xD
[23:34] <ThePiousPriest> yes I did Nelzdogz
[23:34] <nacc> !ask myraft
[23:34] <ThePiousPriest> I'm not getting an "out of range" message tho
[23:34] <nacc> !ask | myraft
[23:34] <neldogz> ThePiousPriest, I ran into the same problem, you need to remove it and install the drives from that PPA
[23:34] <lordcirth> kamiyaa_, chatting is off-topic here, btw.
[23:35] <myraft> let me repost
[23:35] <myraft> Running 16.04 - update 4.4.0.43. The system boots to a dithered mini-screen (illegible). Any ideas or guidance ?
[23:35] <ThePiousPriest> I get to the "desktop" just won't let me log in
[23:35] <ThePiousPriest> redirects back to login prompt
[23:35] <kamiyaa_> lordcirth, oh, sorry. guess ill just lurk
[23:35] <lordcirth> kamiyaa_, there's also #ubuntu-offtopic if you register, and lots of other channels
[23:35] <neldogz> ThePiousPriest, yes i had the same problem
[23:36] <ThePiousPriest> I know its not a credential issue because I switch to tty and get in with creds just fine
[23:36] <kamiyaa_> lordcirth, thanks :)
[23:36] <cbm2000> My wireless adaptor operates at different txpower depending on what network I connect to. On certain networks I can change it and on others nothing happens when I enter the command. Why is this? What's going on?
[23:36] <lordcirth> ThePiousPriest, did you check Xorg.0.log yet?
[23:36] <neldogz> ThePiousPriest, i ended up just reinstalling and then when it came time to install the drivers for the GTX card i used that PPA in the article i pasted
[23:36] <myraft> nacc, ideas ?
[23:37] <ThePiousPriest> Not yet, gonna try to reboot and go for another pass
[23:37] <neldogz> ThePiousPriest, I dont believe this problem exists in 16.10 but i havent tested
[23:38] <myraft> the only relevant informatin I found is here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1633368
[23:38] <neldogz> how is everyone liking 16.10? any major issues?
[23:42] <orfeo> Hello folks!
[23:43] <orfeo> I am running Ubuntu Server at a virtualbox/vagrant and today I noticed Apache is throwing an error as https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8359c9f436a16c581d6eda2a18336511 when I try to load a website form my host coputer.
[23:43] <orfeo> computer*
[23:44] <orfeo> Could someone help me figure what could be possible wrong please?
[23:50] <Qazwer> hi
[23:51] <ThePiousPriest> Managed to get in
[23:52] <ThePiousPriest> Though I had to boot into recovery mode to put in my disk decryption key
[23:52] <ThePiousPriest> Which is odd
[23:52] <ThePiousPriest> Why are there so many problems with 370 vs 367
[23:54] <ThePiousPriest> Anyone have recommendations to transition from Windows 10 to Ubuntu?
[23:54] <Hell-Razor> Anybody have any luck with getting the rt61pci card working on ubuntu?
[23:54] <lordcirth> ThePiousPriest, as in installing, or using?
[23:54] <ThePiousPriest> Using really
[23:54] <ThePiousPriest> Wanting to get out of the MS environment, not that trusting of MS as far as privacy
[23:55] <ThePiousPriest> I know for pure privacy, use tails
[23:58] <lordcirth> ThePiousPriest, not sure as to general advice.  If you have more specific questions, you can ask them.
[23:59] <marton2> hello
[23:59] <neldogz> ThePiousPriest_, 370 is the beta version i believe