[00:18] <ZenM> hi sry to bother... but whats teh recommended way to obtain plasma 5.8.1 on Kubuntu 16.04?
[01:06] <ZenM> No one =,(
[01:21] <valorie> people keep asking, but unless ubuntu bumps the qt version up on the LTS, we can't provide the newest Plasma
[01:22] <valorie> so contact the ubuntu devels
[02:09] <Hoffman> how do I upgrade to yakkity?
[02:15] <FreeFog> hi im looking to test Plasma 5.8 , how should I isntall it?
[02:18] <valorie> Hoffman: what are you running now?
[02:19] <valorie> free
[02:19] <valorie> oops, FreeFog -- you can't in Kubuntu -- yet
[02:19] <valorie> soon
[02:19] <valorie> if you want to in neon, see neon.org
[02:20] <Arcaire> https://neon.kde.org/
[02:20] <valorie> ooops, thanks Arcaire
[02:20] <Arcaire> ^^
[02:21] <FreeFog> Multi monitor support =,(
[02:24] <valorie> we're getting to it as quickly as wel can, FreeFog
[02:24] <valorie> the new archive isn't open yet
[02:25] <valorie> we're hoping for -updates for 16.10
[02:25] <valorie> and possibly backports for 16.04
[02:25] <FreeFog> so when it comes i will have to erase my 16.04 install?
[02:25] <FreeFog> ah
[02:25] <valorie> if they bump qt versions up for the LTS
[02:26] <FreeFog> what are the inherit problems of using backports in 16.04
[02:26] <valorie> no, either we'll be able to do it, or we won't
[02:26] <FreeFog> coz the main reason to switch to 16.10 is new plasma right?
[02:26] <valorie> I dunno, lots of updates
[02:26] <valorie> some value stability over cool new stuff
[02:26] <FreeFog> do u think 16.10 will be more stable than 16.04?
[02:26] <valorie> some the opposite
[02:27] <FreeFog> I go for stability
[02:27] <valorie> I've been running 16.10 since the archive opened
[02:27] <FreeFog> whats ur oppinion between 04 and 10?
[02:28] <valorie> I love the bleeding edge
[02:28] <valorie> and can't wait for the latest....well, actually I test and wait
[02:28] <valorie> imo you should install a nice 16.10 VM and do some testing for us
[02:29] <valorie> and then if you can, a 16.04 VM and do some testing too
[02:29] <valorie> once we have stuff to test
[02:29] <valorie> soon
[02:29] <valorie> soon
[04:56] <user|43518> Hi I have problem with time
[07:39] <bigbrovar> Hi guys. I am wondering if the latest release of plasma is available for kubuntu 16.04
[07:44] <soee_> bigbrovar: hi, no not yet
[07:44] <bigbrovar> ok I think I will just install kde neon which seem to be just what the doctor recommend
[08:05] <bigbrovar> Quick question. There a way to reduce the size of things like menu and plasma network plasmoid. I find they take sizable screen space. On plasma 4 series it was possible to remove their size
[08:25] <viewer|20112> can anyone help me? ... I upgraded my kubuntu to 16.10 and now I can't play any mp3 in qmmp... I can't even add mp3 to playlist
[08:28] <hateball> !info qmmp
[08:28] <hateball> hmmm, not familiar with that
[08:29] <hateball> geosup: installing ubuntu-restricted-extras should pull in most codecs, unless qmmp uses something else
[08:29] <geosup> will try
[08:32] <geosup> didn't help
[08:34] <hateball> geosup: can you play a file in say... Dragon?
[08:37] <geosup> in Amarok yes
[08:45] <acheronuk> geosup: a quick google suggests maybe a bug with the ffmpeg plugin, such that you may need http://qmmp.ylsoftware.com/plugins.php and use the MPG123 one instead
[08:48] <acheronuk> geosup: or possibly a new taglib version required? https://sourceforge.net/p/qmmp-dev/tickets/878/
[08:49] <acheronuk> !info libtag1v5
[08:51] <geosup> I have libtag 1.9.1-2.4ubuntu1
[08:53] <acheronuk> so possibly too old
[08:57] <acheronuk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/taglib/+bug/1546373
[09:02] <geosup> YES ... libtag was the problem
[09:03] <geosup> I had to compile it and then remove and install again qmmp from https://launchpad.net/~forkotov02/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[09:04] <geosup> thanks a lot :)
[09:21] <steve-_-1> so any system updates are coming to users via discover in kubuntu 16.10?
[09:39] <Mihaly> any quassel users out there?
[11:03] <Not_a_Robot> Guys, I need to hibernate my pc. But for that, it seems I need Swap. Creating Swap is not a problem (I don't have Swap because I just don't need it). The issue here is that I only have an SSD. Is there a way I could use Swap JUST for hibernation, please?
[11:50] <Smurphy> Yes. You configure the SWAP Space >= RAM size, and configure the swappiness to happen only in case of emergency.
[12:25] <Mihaly> thank you nickserv
 nickserv is a bot
[12:43] <looping_> Hello. I've been trying to find intel on the minimum system requirements for Kubuntu 16.10. Can someone can point me to the page I obviously missed?
[12:50] <Not_a_Robot> Smurphy: can you please point me to a guide for that? It would help me a lot :)
[12:53] <Smurphy> Not_a_Robot: Check out https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[12:53] <user|5060> Hi! Kubuntu 14.04.4 32bit and server HPE ML30 - RAID 1 will be works, there is B140i controller
[12:53] <Smurphy> On that page, look for vm.swappiness
[13:49] <Karl_> KWallet doesn't see my Gpg key. It's very frustrating.
[13:49] <Karl_> Any ideas how to fix?
[13:51] <Karl_> I'm rapidly getting a very negative view of KDE5 :(
[13:52] <Karl_> Nothing works as it should, and all the interesting settings are difficult to find
[13:52] <hateball> For starters, no one even knows which version you are using
[13:53] <Karl_> Something above 5
[13:53] <Karl_> Default that came with Kubuntu 16.04.1
[13:54] <Karl_> Fresh install
[13:54] <Karl_> Hard to get good data: --version flag does nothing in most cases
[13:55] <Smurphy> Karl_: console konsole --version
[13:55] <Smurphy>  konsole --version
[13:55] <Smurphy> Sorry ;) second line.
[13:56] <Smurphy> Karl_: After that, add the ppa, and install latest available plasma. After that you can rant.
[13:56] <hateball> Karl_: default 16.04 isnt very stable or awesome.. I'd suggest going for 16.10 or using kubuntu ppa
[13:56] <Karl_> Ok
[13:56] <Karl_> thanks for the tips --- there may still be hope then
[13:56] <hateball> 16.04 PPA:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports && sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[13:57] <hateball> also "plasmashell -v" is handy for version
[13:57] <Karl_> good to know
[13:57] <Smurphy> yep :)
[14:09] <Karl__> Does anybody know why KWallet can't find my GPG key while KGpg can?
[14:09] <Karl__> It's tremendously frustrating
[14:13] <Karl__> Especially since a guy had the same problem in April and nobody got back to him on Askubuntu
[14:13] <Karl__> Nothing more disheartened than unanswered questions abpit an issue you have yourself
[14:17] <Karl__> I'm going back to XCFE, this was a mistake --- KDE is not for me
[14:35] <mcox> can anyone recommend a way of pasting a bash script complete with colors into a libreoffice document ?
[14:35] <mcox> i.e I want the colours to remain..
[14:42] <_thelion_> Hi - is it possible to set up the calendar in the control panel to show my appointements, dates, etc?
[15:32] <Kubuntu_LTM> Hi, I'm attempting to install Kubuntu and it hangs at "Preparing to install Kubuntu"
[15:33] <Kubuntu_LTM> I can't click the Continue button to continue installing.
[15:35] <Kubuntu_LTM> Nevermind. It seems to be because it wasn't detecting my storage.
[15:48] <lucky_leo> Good afternoon! On newly installed Kubuntu 16.10 is not working akonadi server. Here, the output of the console - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23344067/
[15:48] <lucky_leo> I would be grateful for your help.
[16:01] <addtru> hello everybody
[16:02] <addtru> what do you think about kubuntu 16.04?  I had some issues with networking.  I wonder is 16.10 is better than 16.04?
[17:26] <trytry> hi all
[17:27] <trytry> I try to get kde 5.8 in my kubuntu 16.10 that I just installed
[17:27] <trytry> I can't see the new option of this version
[17:27] <trytry> like calendar for example
[17:32] <kuSuSE> what is the default behavior of dist-upgrade in xenial? it is not supposed to offer me 16.10, is it?
 @j-b-m-, Check if update mánager suggest normal versions
 So no, it is not supposed to, bit thats configurable
 @Kai Sen, Almost unchanged - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23344842/
[17:51] <marco-parillo> kuSuSE: No, dist-upgrade on 16.04 should not offer you 16.10. THey are in different repos.
[17:51] <Meodudlye> The upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10 is so far, and by a very large margin the worst upgrade of any kind of distro I have ever had. So many things are broken : graphic driver does not upgrade properly, switch to the fallback solution (nouveau) which is even more broken and fails to load most of the times, KDE can´ t understand accentuated characters wit
[17:51] <Meodudlye> hout some serious tweaking...
[17:51] <kuSuSE> ah ok then I've been spamming dist-upgrade like an idiot
[17:52] <kuSuSE> btw, do you know what version of kde I have?
[17:52] <Meodudlye> kuSuSE: it´ s on the help menu of all k apps
[17:53] <kuSuSE> kde framework 5.18.0 got it thanks
[17:53] <Meodudlye> Help-> about KDE
[17:53] <kuSuSE> wait isn't 5.18 newer than 5.8? how come pressing meta/ windows key on my keyboard not open the k menu?
[17:53] <kuSuSE> the folks at #kde said that kde has that since 5.8
[17:55] <marco-parillo> There is KDE the community that supports KDE Plasma. You do not have Plasma 5.8, and 16.04 will not have it available through the backports until it is packaged.
[17:56] <kuSuSE> it does say plasma on my log in screen but it is probably an older version
[18:01] <marco-parillo> Can you invoke krunner (usually <alt> F2) and run kinfocenter?
[18:02] <kuSuSE> marco-parillo: thank you kde plasma version 5.5.5 qt version 5.5.1
[18:02] <kuSuSE> so indeed I don't have 5.8+
[18:02] <marco-parillo> So if you were to upgrade to 16.10 you would have Plasma 5.7.5
[18:02] <kuSuSE> ahaha still not 5.8?
[18:12] <marco-parillo> No. The development team is working on a plan. I am not qualified to explain it (but here I go). THey need to get it tested in ZZ, then they can land it in 16.10 and backport it to 16.04. You will need to enable the backports PPA for 16.04 when it lands there.
[18:23] <Meodudlye> anyone knows how to install pepperflash for 16.10 ? It´ s broken and flash videos don´ t play
[18:39] <marco-parillo> Meodudlye: I know this is not the best answer, but my strategy is to simply install Google Chrome. Then, for sites that I trust, where I really want to see flash, I just open them in Chrome. I actually prefer that flash does not load for 99% of my web browsing.
 @Kai Sen, I rebooted and now everything works fine. thx!
[18:47] <Meodudlye> marco-parillo: true, that´ s probably the best solution
[19:14] <est31> after the update to 16.10 my firefox looks weird
[19:14] <est31> any ideas why that is the case?
[19:28] <acheronuk> est31: Firefox 49 doesn't have complete support for GTK 3.20 theming. Firefox 50 will sort that when it's released
[19:28] <est31> awesome.
[19:29] <est31> acheronuk, in the past I could play around with GTK themes in the settings dialog, was that removed or just moved?
[19:35] <acheronuk> est31: if you have kde-config-gtk-style installed it should show in the systemsettings under application style
[19:38] <est31> acheronuk, yes thank you that did it
[19:39] <user|23921> Hello there! I have a little Problem ... my kubunt still is on 16.04 and i do not know how to update it manually !
[19:41] <user|23921> also it wont update by itself
[19:42] <est31> user|23921, edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[19:43] <est31> change lts to normal
[19:43] <user|23921> And what will i edit ?
[19:43] <user|23921> ok
[19:45] <acheronuk> update 16.04 or upgrade to 16.10? big difference between those two
[19:45] <user|23921> This is show to me
[19:45] <user|23921> # Default behavior for the release upgrader.
[19:45] <user|23921> [DEFAULT]
[19:45] <user|23921> # Default prompting behavior, valid options:
[19:45] <user|23921> #
[19:45] <user|23921> I want to update to 16.10 and have 16.04
[19:46] <acheronuk> user|23921: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YakketyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[19:46] <user|23921> My Pc is lagging...
[19:46] <user|23921> bye
 @Kai Sen, Was left off the iso as it's kde4 dependancies messed up the iso building
[20:06] <Guest4395> can kubuntu do audio over bluetooth say from my phone?
 @Kai Sen, By default? when the okukar KDE maintainers finsih their kf5/Qt5 port, yes. they are just being slow on the progress with that
 @Kai Sen, okular should work if installed after you have installed the main system
[21:24] <honeybadger13_> Is there a way to make plasma use the default pidgin systray icons? I'm not sure if it's just me but those new ones (green silouette for online, purple for new message etc...) don't really work for me as I'm used to something _very_ orange in systray when new message comes ...