[00:01] <acheronuk> and off it goes
[00:03] <Snowhog> acheronuk: Just did an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade on my 16.04 VM. plasma-discover-updater was included in the 19 packages for upgrade. The description on that package doesn't state it's a dummy package at all.
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[00:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[00:05] <Snowhog> acheronuk: Never mind! Didn't read your comment correctly. :/
[00:05] <acheronuk> Snowhog: muon-updater is the transitional dummy pkg
[00:05] <acheronuk> oh. ok 
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[00:13] <Snowhog> As to Muon Package Manager. IF on has Release upgrade set to Normal Releases, then when a new release is available, then Full Upgrade becomes 'active'; turns Green at here. Otherwise, it remains greyed out. So you don't get a pop-up notification, but you can do a distribution full upgrade. Now I don't ever do such from a GUI anyway. I do all of my package management from the CLI.
[00:13] <Snowhog> ^^IF one has
[00:19] <acheronuk> "Full upgrade" button in Muon here just simply upgrades all packages that can be in the current distribution. It does not do an actual distribution upgrade.
[00:21] <Snowhog> Hmm. As I haven't actually clicked on Full Upgrade (when I had Release upgrade set to Normal Releases), I can't confirm that, but I'll take you at your word.
[00:22] <acheronuk> just tried it to make sure
[00:22] <acheronuk> and now there are no normal updates for xenial left, it is greyed out again.
[00:24] <Snowhog> So then, it was the muon-updater package -- before it became a dummy to plasma-discover-updater -- did the deed when Release upgrade was set to Normal Releases.
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[00:39] <Snowhog> acheronuk: Searching Muon Package Manager (which has issues displaying filtered searches -- still) finds that update-manager-kde; NOT installed in my 16.04 VM; provides "Support modules for Muon Notifier and Apper to check for new distro releases and download the dist-upgrade tool."
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[00:49] <valorie> https://vizzzion.org/blog/2016/10/plasmas-road-ahead/ - including a proposed release calendar
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[00:59]  * tsimonq2 yawns
[01:01] <ScottK> clivejo: if the button you click on to start the upgrade is part of plasma-discover then I disagree with the comment.
[01:02] <tsimonq2> valorie: You upgrade to Zesty yet? XD
[01:02] <valorie> I'm thinking about it
[01:03] <valorie> it seems a bit crazy in retrospect to have run YY since day one on my production machine, but it did work out this release
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[01:04] <mparillo> Nothing here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/ Or do you sed  /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[01:04] <mamarley> Wait, is Zesty even installable yet?
[01:05] <acheronuk> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-files/9.6ubuntu6
[01:06] <valorie> and wow, as soon as I say that, yakuake crashes
[01:06] <valorie> weird
[01:06] <valorie> wasn't using it
[01:06] <tsimonq2> valorie: I'm running it! :D
[01:06] <valorie> mparillo: that's how I did it for YY - sed
[01:07] <valorie> tsimonq2: bravo, young sir
[01:07] <tsimonq2> valorie: And of course I'm back in the channel...
[01:07]  * tsimonq2 kicks clivejo :P
[01:07] <mparillo> mamarley: So now I know how valorie got YY a day before I did.
[01:08]  * valorie is not feeling so wild and crazy today
[01:09]  * mamarley will probably upgrade once 5.8 is staged. :p
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[01:14] <valorie> mamarley: I would 100% do it then
[01:14] <valorie> today is colonoscopy prep day, so .....
[01:15] <mamarley> Got to have my KDE Krack. :)
[01:15] <valorie> I'm looking forward to the future with a smile on my face, believe me
[01:17]  * tsimonq2 needs a Debian Developer
[01:17] <tsimonq2> Anyone know someone who would be willing to upload a new package to Sid for me? ;)
[01:18] <tsimonq2> I will owe beer when I can legally buy it for them...
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[01:23] <tsimonq2> Mirv: When is your next planned Qt transition?
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[02:42] <Snowhog> acheronuk: Yup, installing update-manager-kde and setting Release upgrade to Normal Releases and logging out and rebooting, once I was logged in to the Deskop, a a pop-up notifier appeared telling me there was a new distribution to upgrade to.
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[03:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[06:42] <Mirv> tsimonq2: unfortunately only January-February for Qt 5.7.1. of course it's not released yet either, but I need to work on some snappy stuff and Qt 5.6.2 first, and I will be gone for several weeks before the end of year.
[06:44] <Mirv> and I lost several days in trying to find a solution for the arm64 problem that happens if using 4.4 kernel on builders. https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/169892 is supposedly the fix but it does not solve all errors. meanwhile, a workarounded kernel is now installed on builders but I'm a bit puzzled... I ended up piling 5+ patches from upstream and trying even the 5.7
[06:44] <Mirv> 's arm64 JIT support, but none gave similarly error-free results than simple 5.6.1 with earlier kernel (or the kernel flag reverted)
[07:33] <acheronuk> :) http://i.imgur.com/ucIpoXH.png
[07:37] <sheytan> Hey, just upgraded and akonadi doesn't work. Know problem?
[07:42] <sheytan> http://imgur.com/a/OjFch
[08:01] <acheronuk> sheytan: try 'sudo mkdir /var/lib/mysql-files'
[08:11] <sheytan> acheronuk: works, thank you ;) But this should be fixed
[08:17] <jimarvan> good morning :)
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[09:49] <yofel> o.O
[09:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[09:56] <jimarvan> :D
[09:56] <jimarvan> hmm do we still have kubuntu hoodies?
[09:56] <jimarvan> I want to buy one!
[10:11] <santa_> clivejo: what have you done in the discover git?
[10:14] <jimarvan> I hope he destroyed it
[10:14] <jimarvan> I really dislike discover... I want muon back :(
[10:17] <santa_> jimarvan: not on the mood for that kind of jokes, and if you want it back, go maintain it
[10:18] <soee_> o/
[10:18] <santa_> o/
[10:18] <soee_> discover with kirigami interface isn't that bad but it needs some love still to polish styles and few other things
[10:23] <jimarvan> :O
[10:23] <jimarvan> sorry santa_!
[10:33] <jimarvan> guys in launchpad if i change my username
[10:34] <jimarvan> I guess it will have an impact on what I will be doing with that account right? might risk been locked out, is that correct?
[10:36] <IrcsomeBot> <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Santa_ I have done anything with it just yet
[10:36] <IrcsomeBot> <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Havent
[10:39] <santa_> well, apparently someone screwed and very bad the compatibility of our git repositories with debian
[10:39] <santa_> now the master branches of a couple of plasma packages doesn't point where they are suposed to point
[10:40] <santa_> and I suspect all the other plasma packages are affected
[10:41] <santa_> aha
[10:41] <yofel> jimarvan: you can change your display name, but the ID can only be changed when there's no PPAs. That's how it was in the past at least
[10:41] <santa_> tsimonq2: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kgamma5/commit/?id=ff4527edeedb711856b55c8d41d9e5baaa94f797
[10:42] <santa_> ↑ could you explain this please?
[10:43] <jimarvan> thanks yofel!
[10:43] <yofel> how does that screw with out debian compatibility at all?
[10:43] <yofel> we are not mirroring debian
[10:44] <yofel> *with our
[10:44] <santa_> well the master branch must track debian's master branch, otherwise we can't merge properly
[10:44] <yofel> no it doesn't
[10:44] <santa_> yes it does
[10:44] <yofel> you don't need to merge 'master', you can merge 'debian/master' just fine
[10:44] <yofel> that's what remotes are for
[10:45] <santa_> so basically our master branches are now incompatible. great
[10:46] <IrcsomeBot> <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> I asked Simon to look into a way of cleanly copying yakkety_archive into master.
[10:46] <yofel> uhm, I still don't quite get the problem, care to explain?
[10:46] <IrcsomeBot> <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> I also asked him NOT to push it until we reviewed
[10:47] <yofel> I was suggesting using master for dev a couple days ago, clearly saying that I didn't think about all possible downsides
[10:47] <yofel> but I don't remember any part of our workflow that involves our master branch
[10:47] <yofel> at least I haven't used them at all since the move to LP
[10:48] <santa_> <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> I asked Simon to look into a way of cleanly copying yakkety_archive into master.
[10:48] <santa_> why?
[10:49] <IrcsomeBot> <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Because I agree with Phil about using master to track dev
[10:49] <santa_> "to track dev"
[10:49] <yofel> ok, so the problem was that someone wanted to stage some work for the dev release to be able to make backports for the released stuff
[10:50] <IrcsomeBot> <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> To put our unreleased stuff
[10:50] <yofel> with ZZ not having been initialized, there was no place to do that
[10:50] <santa_> yes it is
[10:50] <santa_> kubuntu_yakkety_backports
[10:50] <yofel> and there's the fact that having the PPA code in _archive is seriously annoying when working on the archive
[10:50] <santa_> that's what scarler was using in that situations
[10:51] <santa_> * scarlett
[10:51] <yofel> yes, and the following forward-merges always messed things up
[10:51] <IrcsomeBot> <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> The use of master makes more sense to me
[10:51] <santa_> which breaks the compatiblity with debian
[10:51] <yofel> so I *suggested* using master for it's intended purpose
[10:51] <yofel> how?!?
[10:52] <yofel> nowhere in our wokflow should master have been used at all
[10:52] <IrcsomeBot> <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> I don't understand how it breaks debian
[10:52] <santa_> you can't pull the debian master branch properly
[10:52] <yofel> it always contained outdated debian code, that was just duplicated from debian
[10:52] <IrcsomeBot> <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Sure you can
[10:52] <santa_> can you do this: git checkout master; git pull debian master ?
[10:52] <santa_> properly?
[10:53] <yofel> uh... 'git remote add debian ...', 'git fetch debian', 'git merge debian/master'
[10:53] <yofel> that's what I usually do if I need to merge something from debian for other projects
[10:53] <yofel> I never set up a local remote tracking branch for the debian remote
[10:53] <santa_> so you can't use the master branch properly. great
[10:54] <yofel> define "properly"? The proper use of 'master' in git is to track the main development of *your project*
[10:55] <santa_> unless you are the downstream of *other project*
[10:55] <yofel> like I don't even get why you would go and merge debian master into ours, there should be nothing to merge as it should always be a fast-forward rebase
[10:56]  * soee_ https://goo.gl/5WhTkL
[10:56] <yofel> yes, so...? that's what remotes are for? that's the same thing we have to do when taking something from neon or vice-versa?
[10:56] <santa_> git checkout master; git pull debian master; git checkout kubuntu_zesty_archive; git merge master
[10:56] <yofel> leave the first thing away, make the 2nd git fetch debian, and the last git merge debian/master
[10:56] <yofel> done
[10:57] <yofel> git doesn't care where stuff is, as long as it knows how to track it
[10:57] <IrcsomeBot> <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> I don't get why would need a copy of Debian master in our repo
[10:57] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Doing that merge would *always* break anyways afair, we have different Vcs-* fields
[10:57] <santa_> so you are breaking the current workflow and the compatibility with debian's branches
[10:58] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> We have no current Git workflow with Debian.
[10:58] <acheronuk> it's only there as debian master as a historical anomaly from switching repo's AFAIK
[10:58] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Correct.
[10:58] <yofel> first thing I'll agree with to - to fix issues with the current one, 2nd not so much
[10:59] <acheronuk> never any intention to keep that in sync with debian master
[11:00] <santa_> awesome
[11:01] <santa_> well, whatever, I have other things to do. let me know whats the current workflow, no matter how much broken it is and I will adapt myself as usual
[11:07] <santa_> oh and the by the way
[11:08] <jimarvan> :)
[11:08] <acheronuk> jimarvan: I changed my ID the other week :)
[11:08] <santa_> in case you haven't noticed, doing git checkout b; git merge a doesn't mean the branch a and b have the same contents
[11:09] <santa_> therefore
[11:09] <santa_> <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> I asked Simon to look into a way of cleanly copying yakkety_archive into master.
[11:09] <jimarvan> thanks acheronuk! ;)
[11:09] <santa_> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kgamma5/commit/?id=ff4527edeedb711856b55c8d41d9e5baaa94f797
[11:09] <santa_> ↑ FAIL
[11:09] <santa_> just sayin
[11:10] <tsimonq2> yofel, clivejo, acheronuk: you guys think I messed up there? ^
[11:11] <santa_> if someone messed up was the entire team
[11:11] <santa_> we had a workflow, if you want to change it, change it properly
[11:12] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: well, clivejo said specifically not to push to git. to just investigate
[11:13] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Yes, and that's my fault.
[11:13] <clivejo> I had my reasons for saying not to do it
[11:13] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: we need a clean copy of yakkety_archive as master if it is to be done at all. if that was not achieved, then it's a problem
[11:14] <tsimonq2> clivejo, acheronuk: would you guys please be able to accomplish that while I'm at school?
[11:15] <clivejo> 1) I wanted to let you investigate and learn about git 2) I wanted you to come back with the results and see it it would even work proper (I knew a merge would break things)
[11:15] <yofel> it looks like you just did a merge, which would end up with the wrong result as some master branches aren't fully merged in kubuntu_
[11:15] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: I was going to discuss and look at our branches with clivejo later anyway, so just another item to sort I suppose
[11:15] <tsimonq2> Please do. :)
[11:15] <clivejo> 3) I wanted us all to get together in BBB and do it, so everyone had a chance to raise concerns
[11:16] <acheronuk> yofel: can we nuke what was done and start over?
[11:16] <tsimonq2> clivejo: 1) I know about Git. :P
[11:16] <clivejo> 4) I wanted to do all the repos in in one clean pass
[11:16] <tsimonq2> clivejo: 2) I proposed a planning metting... :/
[11:17] <tsimonq2> *meeting
[11:17] <yofel> lets not touch this until we know what we'll do
[11:17] <yofel> as fixing this might require a force-push - reverting the change would screw up future merges
[11:17] <acheronuk> 4) yes, doing them piecemeal in several parts is bound to end up a mess
[11:18] <santa_> <yofel> lets not touch this until we know what we'll do
[11:18] <clivejo> the reason I asked you was because you had experience with pulling all the git repos from LP
[11:18] <santa_> +1
[11:18] <acheronuk> yofel: will you be available later at all to have a chat on BBB with us?
[11:18] <clivejo> and I have never done that
[11:18] <yofel> acheronuk: not until friday
[11:18] <clivejo> we would all learn from the experience and transfer skills
[11:19] <acheronuk> yofel: what about creating zesty_archive branches? that at least is not a trauma
[11:20] <tsimonq2> ^ heh
[11:20] <yofel> that you can do ;)
[11:20] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: you = _we_ on that
[11:21] <clivejo> talk to each other, scratch heads, rubber duck stuff
[11:21] <clivejo> I have to go push more paper
[11:21] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: dude I'm doing homework than going to school
[11:22] <clivejo> stupid EU rules
[11:22] <tsimonq2> ping me throughout the day and I'll respond within an hour
[11:23] <tsimonq2> s/than/then/
[11:25] <santa_> my suggestion here is:
[11:25] <santa_> 1) don't touch master more until the meeting
[11:26] <santa_> 2) keep using the old workflow (which doesn't need to push things to master) until the meeting
[11:26] <santa_> and that's it
[11:33] <tsimonq2> clivejo, acheronuk: thoughts? ^
[11:35] <acheronuk> at the moment I'm thinking "mmmm donuts"
[11:37] <tsimonq2> Ok, I'm off o/
[12:45] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:49] <jimarvan> Hey BluesKaj!!! :D
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Hi jimarvan :-)
[14:13] <Mirv> tsimonq2: anyway, as soon as 5.7.1 is out, silo 1985 is there that could be filled for zesty. 5.7.0 is partially done in the ubuntu+1 branches, and of course many will come directly without modifications from debian.
[14:14] <Mirv> I'm just not certain on the schedule of 5.7.1 being out and me having time to work on it
[14:49] <soee_> anyone tried CLP ?
[14:50] <soee_> *CLS
[15:18] <CRogers> I get the feeling people on the mailing list patently dislike the chameleon logo. lol
[15:19] <CRogers> oops, wrong window. lol
[17:24] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> o/
[17:25] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Anybody around?
[17:25] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @tsimonq2, no
[17:26]  * mamarley isn't here either.
[17:27] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Lol
[17:27]  * genii washes out all the coffee mugs and mops the floors while the place is temporarily empty
[17:29] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> So nobody is around? No progress? :P
[17:30] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @tsimonq2, My chilli is nearly done. that is progress :)
[17:30] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> :P
[17:31]  * yofel puts on his invisibility cloak and gets back to work
[17:31] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> XD
[17:33] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> It seems the Zesty floodgates have partially opened
[17:33] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> So progress there too
[17:52] <acheronuk> lots of email on the zesty changes list anyway
[17:53] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Well of course.
[19:28] <soee_> Mesa 13.0 Release Candidate 1 Arrives With Intel OpenGL 4.5 Complete
[19:29] <soee_> \o,
[22:11] <tsimonq2> !ninjas
[22:11] <ubottu> yofel, clivejo, acheronuk, tsimonq2, santa_: we need your attention!
[22:11] <tsimonq2> Hey, were we going to decide on something?