[00:25] Anyone know how i would go about starting a second X session thats blank, starting openbox then running a command / opening a program? "xinit (ex. terminator) -- :1 vt8" then i need openbox somehow [01:17] If I am running kde-backports is the upgrade process to 16.10 a tiny bit different? [01:20] backports PPA in 16.04 [01:20] ? [01:20] if so, no [01:20] it will disappear during the upgrade though === ms10 is now known as manshi10 === Dragonslicer is now known as Dragnslcr [05:20] Hello there ! After a update Form Kubuntu 16.10 I Trier to reboot the laptop, but it just wohnt Boot === helium-3 is now known as dilfridge [08:14] Is it worth upgrading to 16.10 or should I stick with LTS? [08:24] barq: depends what you value [08:26] A stable OS [08:27] imo the current state is that plasma in 16.10 is more stable than that of 16.04+backports [08:27] but that's just one part of the OS [08:30] I am on 5.6.5 plasma [08:30] via backports === morgan_ is now known as yossarianuk [09:13] on kubuntu 16.10 I have a really annoying issue - Every login mangles by dual monitor config! Primary monitor unusable on login (black screen unable to right click on it until I disable/renable) [09:13] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371207 [09:13] KDE bug 371207 in common "Every login mangles by dual monitor config! Primary monitor unusable on login (black screen unable to right click on it until I disable/renable)" [Major,Unconfirmed] [09:14] this doesn;t occur with neon/plasma 5.8 (which I use at home) - I;'m running kubuntu @ work due to it not being rolling... [09:14] any ideas how to prevent the issue happening every reboot/login [09:19] OK, maybe updating is not the best idea then. [09:20] I just hopoe I don't have to bugger about with the display options every reboot until Plasma 5.8 PPA is online (assuming it is going to be) [09:36] hmmm, interesting. I have yet to update my workmachine (which has dual monitors) from 16.04 [09:36] perhaps I shall not do that this week then [09:40] I was on 16.04/plasma 5.6.5 and that was ok [09:40] I did a fresh install [09:41] (maybe 5.6.4) [09:41] yossarianuk: did you try wiping the kscreen configs also? [09:41] hateball: i.e delete a config file ? [09:41] yossarianuk: yes [09:42] rm -rfv ./.local/share/kscreen [09:42] ? [09:42] that'll be it, assuming you are in your $HOME [09:42] ok - will do [09:43] I wonder if its due to my primary screen being on the right (rather than left).. [09:43] then a reboot to regenerate configs [09:43] yossarianuk: I have seen that mentioned in #plasma iirc [09:43] is it best to exit kde first before wiping the files? [09:43] I have the same setup [09:43] yossarianuk: doesnt matter, but you'll want to reboot/relog after [09:43] ok [09:44] thanks [09:44] yossarianuk: and then you'll have to set primary etc anew [09:44] sure [09:44] just on this subject.. Is 5.8 ppa planned ? [09:45] I think it is underway, might wanna ping acheronuk about that tho [09:48] hateball: Loggin out and in is enough to regenerate that config. [09:49] cheers - I won't bother him, just nice to know its on the horizon. [09:52] lordievader: yea I suppose it would be [09:52] I just reboot anyway, adds... 5 seconds :p [10:35] hey guys I have a memory card which i kinda didnt let complete formatting :( [10:35] and basically i want to know how can i mount it in linux and use gparted to format it [10:36] eagles0513875|2: why wouldnt you? just nuke the entire FAT create new partition etc [10:36] eagles0513875|2: insert card, check dmesg to see what device is it - then gparted [10:36] ok will try that out [10:36] brb [10:49] hey again . So I removed and reinserted the memory card and in dmesg im seeing 253.111078] mmc0: card never left busy state [ 253.111085] mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card [ 254.763035] mmc0: card never left busy state [ 254.763043] mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card [10:50] plus if i do an fdisk -l im not even seeing the card listed [10:51] busted SD card is not unlikely [10:51] if another card works in the same reader [10:52] hateball: it was working before i kinda borked it up and it didnt finish formatting [10:52] also not visible on my macbook air where it was previously working [10:53] Working before being broken is not an uncommon scenario [10:53] ok i am seeing Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary. in dmesg [10:53] in fdisk dmesg is saying something else [10:54] 226.274407] Buffer I/O error on dev sr1, logical block 32765, async page read [10:55] eagles0513875_: when you insert the card, can you see what device it gets assigned? with dmesg [10:55] you could try nuking the device using dd [10:55] hateball: negative should i have it out and then insert after logging in [10:55] and nuking it with dd is what i want to do o [10:57] eagles0513875_: do you have any /dev/mm* ? [10:57] eagles0513875_: anyhow, removing and re-inserting it should show a new entry in dmesg [11:01] i dont have /dev/mm* [11:02] and dmesg doesnt show anythign except what i pasted above [11:03] hateball: im also noticing http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23347990/ [11:04] hateball: it is the intention to backport 5.8 once we have it in 17.04. can't give a precise ETA, but everpne here wants it to be as soon as is practical [11:04] yossarianuk: ^^^ [11:05] any other ideas hateball [11:08] eagles0513875_: is /dev/sr1 your sd-reader? [11:08] usually sr* is some optical media iirc [11:09] not sure what my card reader is set to on this laptop [11:09] first time really dicking around with a card reader, its my fault cuz i didnt let the format of the memory card complete on my other laptop before pulling it out [11:12] eagles0513875_: well. we can find out with some trickery. first, is it connected using usb? "lsusb" [11:13] im going to try another idea that just came to me im goign to see if I can refiormat using my tablet [11:14] hateball: the issue is with the memory card itself [11:15] i put the 32gb one i had in the adapter and put it in memory card reader and it came up as /dev/mmcblk0 [11:16] even better i did a number on the memory card [11:16] even my tablet cant find it [11:16] eagles0513875_: well, you can try putting in the nonfunctional card now that you know the device enumeration [11:17] and then "sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/mmcblk0" [11:17] mc0: card never left busy state [ 1981.601764] mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card [11:17] same errors [11:17] ye [11:17] as I said, it happens... [11:18] with the working card [ 1824.670485] mmc0: new high speed SDHC card at address 0001 [ 1824.683321] mmcblk0: mmc0:0001 00000 29.8 GiB [ 1824.685062] mmcblk0: p1 [ 1949.125999] mmc0: card 0001 removed [11:18] SD cards arent very awesome, certainly not if you do stuff like pull them out mid-write [11:18] I know so its a lost cause [11:18] I dont know of any more low-level way to bring them alive [11:19] anyone else have any ideas [11:20] hateball: seems like dd is working [11:23] hateball: is there a way i can see progress with dd how much has been done as the memory card is 128GB [11:24] eagles0513875_: should be able to cancel the dd (ctrl+c), issue "sync" and then remove and insert the card and see if you get errors [11:24] there is a way to attach to dd to show progrees but I forget it [11:24] to show when you run, use "dd status=progress if=etc etc" [11:25] acheronuk: hateball: cheers [11:26] Does it work in another pc? [11:27] lordievader: negative [11:27] it was before i pulled it out midformat as i thought it was ready [11:27] dd is working but i think i need to let it complete dding all 128gb [11:28] once dd is done i think ill go through https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2198218 and follow the steps there [11:29] lordievader: how are you [11:30] eagles0513875_: Busy but good. How are you? [11:30] same here [11:31] then again when am i not things are finally winding down from the summer madness here [11:31] lordievader: also engaged and getting married in 2018 too [11:31] eagles0513875_: Congrats ;) [11:32] thanks [11:32] excited and looking forward to it === frvdamme is now known as yalu_ [11:40] lordievader: im realizing how much i hate being on windows but kinda stuck with it for one thing and one thing only sadly [11:40] most of our systems are tied into windows and IE [11:41] im going ot speak to my manager and see if I can get my laptop onto linux [11:46] eagles0513875_: This is more a topic for #kubuntu-offtopic ;) [11:47] guys, how can I make [11:47] cd mtp:/Phone/ [11:47] ? [11:47] I want to copy the content there [11:47] but the only way I know is using Dolphin [11:48] Not_a_Robot: do you have the computer and phone on the same wifi network? [11:48] yes hateball, but KDE connect is not an option [11:48] Alright :p [11:49] xDD [11:49] The thing is I would like to discover [11:49] ahh yes lordievader sorry thought i was in there [11:49] how Dolphin gets inside "mtp:/" [11:49] I would like to get there via command line [11:50] it's fusemounted somewhere [11:50] Not_a_Robot: run "mount" in a terminal and it should show up [11:53] by fuse I just finde this [11:53] hateball: fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw,relatime) [11:54] Not_a_Robot: have you browsed the device in dolphin ? [11:54] yes hateball [11:54] hmmm [11:54] well, I dont really know then. [11:54] I havent really battled MTP for a few years since kde connect :p [11:55] I have a lot of content and KDE Connect crashes [11:55] :P [12:00] hateball: i some how have an 8gb partition i believe to be on the memory card what do i need to do to format it properly [12:00] as gparted isnt picking it up still [12:01] lordievader: ^ [12:01] thing is fdisk -l still isnt listing it [12:03] eagles0513875_: what do you mean believe to be on the memory card? either it is on the card, or it is on some other device [12:03] where are you seeing this? [12:04] its only 8gb out of 128 i dont have anythign 8gb in the system [12:04] only 2gb usb pen drive [12:04] which im on kubutnu with and the memory card [12:06] eagles0513875_: and you know for sure this is a 128GB device and not some trickery bought from ali express? [12:07] also if you ran dd against the raw device it shouldnt have any partitions at all, as that should have nuked MBR/FAT [12:08] hateball: it has [12:09] it seems like there are 4 mmcblk0 to 4 partitions [12:39] hateball: i have zeroed out /dev/mmcblk to blk4 and still nothing [12:45] Hiyas all [13:38] hi [13:40] How can I fix this mess https://paste.ubuntu.com/23339263/? [13:40] Stuck at it for 2 days :( [13:40] any guesses? [13:41] I can boot into recovery somehow after a dpkg configuration fix every time. [13:41] No fstab problems, something related to swap has gone to wrong. [13:41] hi [13:42] do you also experience lots of problems with 16.10? [13:43] ben-no, yeah!!! [13:43] can't change brightness..multi-monitor no detection...etc [13:45] the monitor problem seems to be related to: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370411 [13:45] KDE bug 370411 in Desktop Containment "Desktop preferences lost on login for dual screen" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] [13:45] yep [13:46] ben-no, what problems are you saying? Something related to swap not being mounted? (https://paste.ubuntu.com/23339263/?) [13:47] I have also problems with using multiple monitors and some problems with kontact [13:47] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362958#c24 [13:47] KDE bug 362958 in message list "After update KMail not interpreting Invite Emails" [Major,Resolved: fixed] [13:47] hmm... any ideas guys? https://paste.ubuntu.com/23339263/?Let me know what else debugging info I can provide. [13:52] Does anyone know if Kubuntu 16.10 supports KDEConnect 1.0 yet? [13:53] momoe, 16.10 doesn't even support booting. :p [13:53] ??? [13:54] momoe: I am using it in 16.04. [13:55] With the use of the backports ppa? [13:56] I did that and now there's a few things broken [13:56] momoe, it worked with 16.04 [13:57] momoe: I use it, and it works very well [13:58] Hello ! My problem is that steam wont start! I would appretiate help [13:58] Okay, from my understanding 16.04 was only supporting the 0.9 [13:58] sry I not sure how to debug this issue https://paste.ubuntu.com/23339263/. If anybody can help finding the issue it would be great/ [14:02] :/ [14:02] https://thepb.in/p/n5fl4WMgOo8CY [14:02] paranoidabhi: you have some strange characters in the uuid of your disks : \x2duuid-CA5D\x2dF91D.device [14:02] can than be the problem? [14:03] Meodudlye, hi thanks for the suggestion. Which line are you referring to? [14:04] paranoidabhi: Oct 17 19:19:00 hp systemd[1]: dev-disk-by\x2duuid-CA5D\x2dF91D.device: Job dev-disk-by\x2duuid-CA5D\x2dF91D.device/start timed out. [14:07] Meodudlye, nice find :). But I am unsure why the happens the fstab seems okay. Where is it getting this uuid from? Any guesses? [14:07] paranoidabhi: and the settings in your fstab may cause that: you have UUID=CA5D-F91D /boot/efi vfat umask=0077 0 1 maybe that should be default instead of vfat ? [14:08] paranoidabhi: hmm, no, sorry, the default is for something else [14:09] I have that in my fstab: UID=1C09-76EB /boot/efi vfat defaults 0 1 [14:09] (with two U :UUID) [14:10] Meodudlye, it should defaults instead of umask=0077? [14:11] paranoidabhi: that is what I have in my own fstab [14:15] Meodudlye, ok. I will check that and get back [14:20] hello, I have a problem with videos playing (youtube video, firefox, on YY). The video loads, buffers a bit, but never plays [14:20] CQ: are these html5 or flash videos? [14:20] hitting pause and play goes one frame forward / backwards [14:21] hateball: html5 [14:21] I'm trysing to get rid of flash [14:23] CQ: weird. do you get the same behavior in say chromium? [14:25] I don't recall if you need any additional codecs for h264 or so in Firefox, if that could be the case with the video [14:25] hateball: installing, let me check. [14:25] Also, this is in a virtualbox VM (windows 7 host). The video plays in FF on the host [14:26] CQ, chrome-browser uses it's own version of flash, unfortunately flash is a fact of life on a lot of websites ..HTML6 is slowly being adopted , but it's gonna take a while [14:26] HTML5 even [14:26] hateball: same issue on chromium [14:27] BluesKaj: html5 has been default on youtube since 2015 or so tho [14:27] CQ: do you have working audio in other applications? [14:27] vbox has no acceleration set. [14:28] I *think* video playback may stall if it tries to connect to an audio device but cannot find one [14:28] hateball: I was going to say, i had pulseaudio problems in the past... how can I test the audio? [14:28] hateball, but not all video on YT plays on HTML5 [14:30] BluesKaj: Yep, not old ones (that havent been re-encoded yet) [14:30] CQ: can try playing this file /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav [14:30] in any given player [14:31] hateball: audio seems to be the problem... the default amarok tune freezes the same way [14:32] CQ, aplay -l to see what we're dealing with [14:33] CQ: right, hopefully BluesKaj and others can help you sort that, I have to split [14:33] card 0: I82801AAICH [Intel 82801AA-ICH], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel 82801AA-ICH] [14:34] hateball: ok, thanks! [14:35] BluesKaj: I have Intel HD, ICH AC97, and Soundblaster16 ... trying intelHD now as a controller [14:36] CQ, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel [14:37] BluesKaj: amarok seems to work now with the IntelHD controller [14:37] card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC9221 A1 Analog [STAC9221 A1 Analog] [14:37] F6 in alsamixer to choose the card0 [14:37] card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: STAC9221 A1 Digital [STAC9221 A1 Digital] [14:38] yup [14:39] alsamixer says its just set to default, but I can choose the card explicitly [14:40] anything else to check / do or just sit back and enjoy the video? [14:42] CQ, yes and save the setting in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf as : options snd-hda-intel index=0 [14:43] that should solidify your driver setting [14:44] ok, thanks! [14:45] ok gotta rebbot ..bbiab [14:52] Would anyone know why sometimes rebooting my computer will swap around KDE Panels and change my wallpaper, but only sometimes and only one of the monitor's wallpapers [14:54] I think that is related to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370711 [14:54] KDE bug 370711 in Image Wallpaper "wallpaper on second monitor is always set to default" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] === mib is now known as Guest67980 [15:05] what do i open to see my plasma version? i forgot [15:10] got it, Kinfocenter === fml is now known as _5ml === morgan_ is now known as Guest68132 === Guest68132 is now known as yossarianuk [15:44] hi, rebooted pc this morning, kubuntu 14.04 lts after signing in does not load desktop..not sure if it was uninstalled by accident...how do i get it back, cant get to terminal...thanks [15:45] what do you see? any hints, is grub showing or is it completely gone [15:47] the issue i'm having with dual monitors and the primary screen being black and unusable (i.e not being able see a right click menu, etc) on every boot - looks like these bugs [15:48] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371207 [15:48] KDE bug 371207 in common "Every login mangles by dual monitor config! Primary monitor unusable on login (black screen unable to right click on it until I disable/renable)" [Major,Unconfirmed] [15:48] which is a dupe of -> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369665 [15:48] KDE bug 369665 in Multi-screen support "Impossible to modify the layout of the second screen" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [15:49] shaybox i have the pretty wallpaper and a mouse working but nothing else [15:49] no icons or menus [15:50] its fixed in Plasma 5.8 - the comment from Sebastian Kügler is 'This bug has been fixed in Plasma 5.8, please upgrade. :)' [15:51] so is that fix ever going to make it back to plasma 5.7.5 in kubuntu 16.10 ? [15:51] or is that it until plasma 5.8 is released / [15:51] yossarianuk, is that reply for me or ? [15:51] nope [15:52] its relating to a major bug in kubuntu 16.10 - which is fixed in later Plasma [15:53] i see thanks yossarianuk [15:53] so will a bug that is affecting kubuntu 16.10, but fixed in plasma 5.8 going to be backported ever to kubuntu 16.10? [15:57] ok its bad Sebastian Kügler just responded to my question, will it be fixed in Kubuntu 16.10 'It won't unless that kubuntu upgrades to Plasma 5.8.' [15:58] so I can only assume that means if I stick with Kubuntu 16.10 I will be running a broken system until April next year................... [15:58] which is terrible [16:00] sounds like that there will be backports soon: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?70942-Plasma-5-8-in-16-10-backports&p=394086&viewfull=1#post394086 [16:01] ben-no: sure, but they should make the backports the normal upgrade so people are not running known broken software... [16:01] seems silly to keep broken software in the name of 'stability' === GodFather_ is now known as GodFather [16:10] so i booted network cd to live shell...busybox..how do i get to su and reinstall desktop? [16:11] not done this before and every command says not found..sorry not a linux expert. [16:13] I cant Boot kubuntu a blackscreen will Boot and nothing else happens [16:13] ekto maybe try a live cd, thats what im doing..lol === lethu_ is now known as lethu [16:13] I die that ... 20 times exactly [16:14] Did* [16:14] ekto, not sure..backup your data first. so if you have HD failure or something else going on. [16:15] Well i guess thats too Late cuz i already installed kubuntu New by a desktop CD [16:16] Also my graphic card always worked fine [16:16] ekto, yikes..u never want to lose data -- unless not important. [16:17] Only computer games Form steam, i can redownload Thema [16:17] From * stupid auti correction [16:18] ekto, ok no worries then lol...id check your hardware then try a reinstall i guess. [16:18] How do i do that ? [16:19] ekto, there's many ways. i personally network boot with some utilities that do all that for me. i use something called erpxe. but you can try other boot disks etc. [16:20] it may be you have a driver issue with your graphic card, not sure. [16:20] I am right now in the recovery console AS root [16:22] My graphic card is nvidia-304 [16:22] ekto, not sure..maybe someone else can help. [16:22] or google :) [16:23] I deleted the additional driver [16:24] And nvidia-304-dev [16:25] Its rebooting and... [16:25] Blackscreen [16:26] Ill reinstall the system again and restart it without installing the nvidia things [16:28] ekto, gl! [16:30] THX [16:31] Hello [16:32] solved my issue, doh! got to grub, recovery, enable network, then root ...:) [16:33] And what do i type in the root ? I did everything possible after these steps [16:33] I'm having trouble trying to d/l wallpapers from the "get new wallpapers" button. Is it broken for you too? [16:33] I feel dunked in [16:33] On ! [16:34] Not even the DVD boots now [16:34] I get this error message: Some categories are missing. [16:35] Retry ... [16:35] ekto, the "Retry" is for me? [16:36] sponge oh no i cant Boot my laptop thats my Problem [16:36] ekto, either make a new DVD or learn how to network boot with an image. [16:36] oh, ok [16:36] danimal2 OK , by the way are you german ? [16:37] ekto, no [16:38] danimal2 OK oh it Bootes again [16:40] ekto,this may help. http://askubuntu.com/questions/620838/hardware-rendering-issues-with-nvidia-304-in-kubuntu-15-04#624659 [17:06] Hi all [17:07] I've installed Kubuntu 16.04 and Super key doesn't work. Also when I've added 4 workspaces they are bound to Ctrl+F1...F4 for some reason. [17:08] That it doesn't work I only judge by now switching desktops using Super+123 [17:08] it does something [17:09] for example if I press Super+Q it shows some... rooms? Idk what is that [17:10] Ah, forgot to mention. I call "Super" a Left Win key :) [17:10] the* [17:10] So probably I have to configure it somehow for KDE to use it as Super [17:10] but I didn't find where it's configured [17:14] hi guys [17:15] For Kubuntu 16.04 you would need to install ksuperkey, and incur upstream disapproval. When Plasma 5.8.1 drops, then the super key will bring up the application launcher. [17:16] I still couldn't fix that issue https://paste.ubuntu.com/23339263/? [17:16] please suggest. [17:25] mparillo, Can you get wallpapers from the "gen new wallpapers.." button? === chet is now known as samsplosion [18:03] is there any ppa or anything for newer kde/plasma releases for 16.10? or will i be on plasma 5.6 forever? [18:04] 16.10 has plasma 5.7.5. [18:06] what? where? [18:07] ah, i meant 16.04, sorry :) [18:08] http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/plasma-desktop [18:08] is 16.10 out? holy moly i'm out of the loop [18:09] haakonn: plasma 5.7.5 is nearly done for 16.04. but as it got delayed I'm not sure if it may not be worth skipping and just doing 5.8 [18:10] that's cool. 5.8 is an lts too [18:10] precisely. [18:12] hello all... I am trying to get a script to run from my ubuntu system that will move all data from a freenas share to a local folder.. using rsync -avz "ssh " ssuser@192.168.0.25:/mnt/V1/Share/ /home/vuser/Documents/Bacup/ using default port because its inside a network [18:12] longer term to 16.04 5.8 will be the best fit. going to want that backported if achievable, anyway [20:57] Is there a way to make plasma use the default pidgin systray icons? I'm not sure if it's just me but those new ones (green silouette for online, purple for new message etc...) don't really work for me as I'm used to something _very_ orange in systray when new message comes ... === Guest46640 is now known as IdleOne [22:31] What is the "price" one pays when he's using apps such as vlc/pidgin/firefox/thunderbird/hexchat instead of the native kde apps? [22:42] sponge: You may being in more dependencies. Your theming / dialog boxes might seem generic. [23:18] mparillo, More dependencies = more mb from HD. That I don't care. But does this also affect the performance of these apps? or the burden on the system? [23:56] bbl. thanks mparillo