[00:30] <dax> because then they can't charge for it?
[00:33] <Ben64> i guess
[00:33] <Ben64> thanks OerHeks
[00:34] <Ben64> could answer this dude's question in #ubuntu because of you
[00:36] <nacc> Ben64: this isthe 'official line': http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/10/canonical-livepatch.html#gpluscomments (FAQs re: livepatch)
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> got any wiser on the freeze Bashing-om ?
[04:45] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Not really .. Was of a mind was in regard to access to the spinners, I withheld access this day, and still had a freeze up . I have also shrunk the default install down to comply with the 25% bumper recommemdation . All I know to do at this point is use it and see what/when happens . Consider upgrading the bios chip !
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> ouch
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> weird you cant catch a syslog?
[04:54] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Nope, when it freeze .. it is froze ! Not even able to write to the logs . I have a few terminals open with some tests in them to see if anything gets caught . I have had this system turning and burning trying to make something happen . Can not reprodice ! .. This last freeze happened after exiting about 40 FF tabs, ITSSE going .. and data bases just open . Made another simple
[04:55] <Bashing-om> edit to the data base file .. and froze up .. lost all my work up to that time ! Ouch !
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> hmmz
[04:58] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Just nothing to get our hands on .. As bad as I do not want to abuse that SSD .. all I know to do is use the system and make very frequent backups of my working files and data bases .
[05:00] <Bashing-om> (and I really prefer xfce 4.10 over 4.12 and FireFox is not winning me back )
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> you sure you got AHCI enabled in bios right
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> (berfore you installed)
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> as changing values, need a fresh reinstall
[05:06] <Bashing-om> I have looked and looked .. There is no option to set AHCI .. think it is set as AHCI by default .. as all I have onboaord is SATA .
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> hmm, must be somewhere
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> ah you have no IDE,kk
[05:10] <Bashing-om> When I built this box it was cutting edge and built for a file server . Even now it is still a great machine ( for what little I now do ) .
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> if its latest mobo, then it surely must work with ssd right
[05:12] <Bashing-om> well .. I got my doubts about the Bios .. will not hurt my feelings to upgrade . This ole motherboard is the Abit K9 SLI .
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> that should work like a charm with ssd
[05:14] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: I would think so .. 6 GB buss !
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> did you check if there are firmwares?
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> for ssd
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> i had to firmware the 840 evo as it had performance bug
[05:18] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: I did a cursory look .. and found nothing for the 850 EVO .. I do intend to get the maintenance .iso for linux .
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> so weird
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: i bet the ##hardware guys could find something
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> if spinners work allright, must be ssd related right
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> not Os
[05:21] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: I am think'n a jinx factor .. as I was congratulating myself on running so long with no freeze .. and no sooner the thought than the freeze occured .. and only froze up this one time today .. and been on now about 13 hours .
[05:22] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Wel the spinner all have different falvors and older releases .. but YES, none of the installs on the spinners have any problems .
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> some kind of random bottleneck
[05:23] <Bashing-om> I do not know .. was wierd that under load did not freeze up .. and froze under a simple edit with little system load at that time .
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> abit boards can be stubborn really
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> but once it works, its for long time
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> bios upgrade and low defaults yet to try
[05:38] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Yepper ! .. My thoughts too .. upgrade the Bios .
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> bbl breakfast :p
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: talk to ducasse, he also got the 850
[05:43] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Yeah ducasse is very interested and helpful too .
[06:20] <ducasse> morning all!
[06:59] <Bashing-om> Giving it a rest, catch yall on the flip side . G nite .
[07:38] <Ben64> wow, tonight is a great night for trolls
[11:55] <daftykins> must be the trolls are coming in for the winter
[11:59] <OerHeks> warm and cozy ... mu ha ha ha
[11:59] <daftykins> :)
[12:19] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[12:22] <OerHeks> Haswell also leaking... good job intel :-D
[12:22] <OerHeks> http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/10/flaw-in-intel-chips-could-make-malware-attacks-more-potent/
[12:22] <OerHeks> intel suffers from open standards, i love the word joke
[12:22] <OerHeks> ( for years now, back to 2002)
[12:23] <daftykins> morning pauljw \o
[12:23] <daftykins> 1171.5MB of Android 7.0 Nougat on the way down to my new phone o0
[12:23] <pauljw> hi daftykins :)
[12:24] <daftykins> Haswell is already 3 generations behind :>
[12:24] <daftykins> 4 come the new year
[12:24] <daftykins> er, no wait 2 and 3 i meant respectively
[12:25] <pauljw> my laptop is using haswell, built in 2013.
[12:26] <daftykins> neat generation that, not much has changed since
[12:45] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:45] <daftykins> hallo \o
[12:48] <BluesKaj> hey
[12:49] <pauljw> hi BluesKaj
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Hi pauljw
[13:00] <ducasse> \o
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/ubuntu-16-10-now-offers-more-than-500-snaps-including-vlc-3-0-and-krita-3-0-509431.shtml
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> wobbly windows still working like a charm on 16.04 just tested out :p
[17:31] <daftykins> XD
[17:31] <daftykins> hey sir
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[17:58] <ubot5`> linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.43.45 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 12 kB
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic yakkety
[17:58] <ubot5`> linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.8.0.22.31 (yakkety), package size 2 kB, installed size 12 kB
[17:59] <OerHeks> that newer card 1070 wants kernel 4.8  and fresh nvidia drivers, iirc
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> tnx OerHeks
[18:00] <daftykins> that's my card 8D
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> :p
[18:00] <daftykins> and lovely it is too, now it's winter the fans don't even kick in under load!
[18:01] <OerHeks> Lubuntu is the best
[18:01] <OerHeks> http://imgur.com/a/uL17S
[18:01] <OerHeks> yeh yeh na na na yeh yeh
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> wowww
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> seeding yakkety huh
[18:02] <OerHeks> 200 gb+ now
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> yayy
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> i tested lubuntu xenial, and it rocknrolls
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> best lubuntu ever
[18:04] <nicomachus> !rocknroll
[18:04] <nicomachus> hmmm
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:04] <nicomachus> !rock&roll
[18:04] <nicomachus> ubot5 sucks. I want ubottu
[18:07] <daftykins> i hope you won't try to enable people with netbooks into thinking they can keep using them, though ;)
[18:07] <daftykins> not even lubuntu can save them!
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> i have a netbook daftykins :p
[18:08] <daftykins> lemme at it
[18:08] <daftykins> i'll decommission it for you...
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> acer aspire rocketfast on ssd
[18:08] <nicomachus> rm -rf /*?
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> !danger
[18:08] <ubot5`> DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> :p
[18:09] <nicomachus> oh blah blah
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> haha
[18:09] <nicomachus> that's why I didn't write it with sudo, duh
[18:11] <daftykins> all the netbooks hardware are useless since so many GMA965 intel graphics regressions got into the kernel back in ~13.xx days
[18:11] <daftykins> those things need firing out of cannons into the sun, only course of action ;)
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: every box needs ubuntu, even netbooks :p
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> shoot your rocket to me and ill sell them :p
[18:16] <daftykins> deadly serious, it would be immoral to claim they're usable still
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> so many ppl use old laptops in belgium, you have no idea
[18:17] <daftykins> i figure performance and quality is just a relative thing, if it hasn't been experienced they don't know what they're missing
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> my aunt has an old aspire that doesnt like lubuntu and xubuntu even, o,ly xp
[18:18] <daftykins> oof
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> thats the only box ever that i could not install linux on yet
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> well, it installed alright, nut wasnt very useable
[18:19] <daftykins> could well be the regressions i speak of!
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> cant recall if it was integrated intel graphics
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> aspire 1394 is think..
[18:19] <daftykins> most of them were
[19:39] <Bashing-om> Hello guys ; All fired up and ready to go .. Let's see what the session brings .
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj_
[19:39] <BluesKaj_> hey lotuspsychje, Bashing-om
[19:40] <Bashing-om> Hey lotuspsychje I did not expect you to still be here .. Good surprise .
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> evening chat for once :p
[19:40] <Bashing-om> BluesKaj_: Good to read you also ! A good day in our neighborhood ?
[19:42] <BluesKaj_> Bashing-om,well ok here except for some probs with my old pc , orherwise fine, how about you?
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> what probs
[19:43] <BluesKaj_> just a chain of events that seem like gremlins are anticipating my every move
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:43] <Bashing-om> My system, the jury is still out . Holding my breath for freezing incidents - so far so good .. maybe resolved . - Anything I can do for your system to make it feel better ?
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> hey wafflejock
[19:45] <wafflejock> hey how is going lotuspsychje
[19:45] <wafflejock> is it*
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> great on this side of the world :p
[19:45] <BluesKaj_> 16.10 final release was a disaster for my pc, the cdrom  died , then my drive in the lapop is no longer recognized ...the list goes on
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> wow
[19:45] <nicomachus> lotuspsychje: getting awfully late there, isn't it?
[19:46] <wafflejock> bummer
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> 21.46 here nicomachus :p
[19:46] <wafflejock> I have some issue with HDMI out on 16.04 and 16.10 that doesn't happen on 14.04 no idea what it is though, screen looks horizontally interlaced
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: perhaps drivers issue?
[19:46] <wafflejock> probably gonna try the display port though.... want to help fix the issue but don't want to have to mess with it for dual monitors
[19:47] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje, yeah obrien suggested installing intel stack from them I did that but no go
[19:47] <nicomachus> wafflejock: haven't seen that myself. I use HDMI on my HTPC at home running 16.04
[19:49] <wafflejock> nicomachus, picture of it here https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/photo/108173165070170894192/6329992220494460850?icm=false maybe something interesting taking a screenshot it doesn't show the problem at all
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> wow
[19:50] <wafflejock> yeah psychedelic but not the effect I was going for :)
[19:51] <wafflejock> screen reports the same vertical and horizontal refresh rate as when it's working with 14.04 too I dunno
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> xrandr --auto ?
[19:51] <wafflejock> yah I tried xrandr all sorts of things nothing worked, some were a little less bad and others more bad but nothing working
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> weird
[19:53] <nicomachus> wafflejock: whoa. definitely seems like a driver issue, or even hardware.
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> yeah driver issue is my guess too
[19:54] <nicomachus> also: full screen window for hexchat? what a waste of real estate
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> wich card is that wafflejock
[19:54] <nicomachus> :P
[19:54] <wafflejock> nicomachus, well know it's not hardware cause I made a bootable 14.04 and that worked out so guess is also something with the driver or X but not sure how to debug either really
[19:54] <wafflejock> nicomachus, hehe
[19:54] <wafflejock> nicomachus, this is why I need more monitors :)
[19:57] <wafflejock> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23350330/ <-- lshw  and lspci -k --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23350333/
[19:57] <nicomachus> so no dedicated GPU? just intel?
[19:57] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje, ^^ video driver info
[19:57] <wafflejock> ya
[19:57] <wafflejock> just my laptop
[19:58] <nicomachus> same driver I'm using here... but I'm using VGA with my external monitor. and only 1 external.
[19:58] <wafflejock> yah I have the 1 though VGA that's fine, but before had VGA and HDMI working okay so long as I turned off the laptop display
[19:58] <nicomachus> yea intel would have trouble with 3
[19:58] <wafflejock> with 3 on I would get some CRTC error but wouldn't do anything to crazy would only allow 2 displays active
[19:59] <nicomachus> now that I think about it, I have had a monitor with VGA and a TV with HDMI plugged in, with the screen on.
[20:00] <nicomachus> but the tearing on the TV was so awful I ended up unplugging the HDMI
[20:01] <wafflejock> yeah I really didn't have many problems before, it was slightly noticeable that the VGA wasn't completely sharp compared to the HDMI but easily usable
[20:01] <nicomachus> I wanna say I was on 15.10 still when I did it.
[20:01] <wafflejock> I've got a display port on here though so thinking of just grabbing a display port to HDMI since my monitor has no display port and praying that works out
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> some nice latest shots: http://www.deviantart.com/browse/all/customization/screenshots/nix/?order=5&offset=0
[20:03] <wafflejock> I also have a way better desktop already hooked up to both monitors but don't think I've upgraded that one yet and like to have it as the gaming machine so I'm not working on the gaming machine, anyhow will figure something out let me know if you guys have other debug ideas
[20:03] <nicomachus> lotuspsychje: ooh. I like the GTK theme there.
[20:03] <nicomachus> can I get a screenfetch?
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> linux is very alive so it seems :p
[20:03] <nicomachus> oh that's not you
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> no :p
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> but i have a few on first xenial installs
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: http://lotuspsychje.deviantart.com/gallery/
[20:08] <nicomachus> lotuspsychje: you need screenfetch. :)
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> !info screenfetch
[20:08] <ubot5`> screenfetch (source: screenfetch): Bash Screenshot Information Tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.7.0-1 (xenial), package size 39 kB, installed size 206 kB
[20:09] <nicomachus> http://i.imgur.com/LCCLj3q.jpg
[20:09] <daftykins> wafflejock: don't ever install anything intel from intel on *buntu :)
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> cool!
[20:09] <daftykins> all you do is break things even more :>
[20:10] <wafflejock> daftykins, it was sort of a last ditch effort :)
[20:10] <daftykins> yep last 'cause now you can't go back without effort ;)
[20:11] <daftykins> wafflejock: need a /var/log/Xorg.0.log really to see what's going on there
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23350385/
[20:11] <nicomachus> lotuspsychje: there you go. :)
[20:11] <nicomachus> it just gives all the info in one go.
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> great hint tnx
[20:12] <nicomachus> you can mess with colors on that *buntu logo, too
[20:12] <nicomachus> you can even mess with people and change the logo to debian or arch or gentoo or manjaro etc etc
[20:12] <gebruiker> guys I am looking for a countdown timer - anny recommendations?
[20:12] <wafflejock> daftykins, should I try to clear the Xorg.0.log first and plug in the monitor to see if there's anything new or just hook it up and dump the log file?
[20:13] <daftykins> wafflejock: is it the primary and only display?
[20:13] <daftykins> fresh boot with it in ideally
[20:13] <daftykins> assuming it's repeatable every time
[20:13] <wafflejock> no it's a laptop, but just the HDMI out isn't working, happens consistently
[20:13] <daftykins> and it's definitely not a hybrid graphics machine?
[20:13] <wafflejock> okay will hook it up and reboot and drop the file
[20:14] <wafflejock> yah intel only
[20:14] <daftykins> might be interesting to see a real life pic of the effect, also
[20:15] <daftykins> but this is why we don't upgrade meaninglessly people! "if it ain't broke..." ;D
[20:15] <nicomachus> daftykins: he said it was broke in 16.04 too though
[20:16] <daftykins> i read that it *worked* in 14.04
[20:16] <wafflejock> daftykins, yeah works fine in 14.04 (tried with live environment after upgrading from there where it was working)
[20:16] <wafflejock> 16.04 and 16.10 seems broken
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: looking good this http://www.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-16-04-631715365
[20:16] <wafflejock> I upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04 and tried the 16.10 live
[20:16] <nicomachus> lotuspsychje: I like that one.
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: tried a clean 16.04.1 also?
[20:17] <nicomachus> not a huge fan of all the system stats on the left, especially with a notification pop-up covering a good portion. but oh well.
[20:17] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje, well tried from a live 16.04 but not clean install
[20:17] <nicomachus> s/left/right/
[20:17] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje, I figure doing the live usb was good enough to avoid any old config problems or anything like that
[20:18] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: yeah i like minimal myself
[20:18] <wafflejock> daftykins, one sec will paste links from above with details I had already
[20:18] <wafflejock> daftykins, https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/photo/108173165070170894192/6329992220494460850?icm=false <-- image of the problem
[20:18] <wafflejock> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23350330/ <-- lshw  and lspci -k --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23350333/
[20:19] <daftykins> wow is that meant to be the wallpaper? :D
[20:19] <wafflejock> daftykins, I'll get it rebooted and hooked up to the HDMI in a few minutes and drop the Xorg
[20:19] <OerHeks> http://imgur.com/a/JXHUk
[20:19] <wafflejock> daftykins, heh yeah that's the problem looks like horizontal interlacing it's wacky
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> nice one OerHeks like it!
[20:19] <wafflejock> daftykins, I tried all sorts of xrandr mode setting and whatever but nothing working on that HDMI out all some sort of wrong scaling or something weird going on, but works on live usb with 14.04
[20:20] <daftykins> mmm
[20:20] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: whats the _ _ _ indicator?
[20:21] <OerHeks> classicmenu indicator
[20:21] <OerHeks> for the old gnome2 style app menu
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> ah right, forgot that it changed icon
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> was an ubuntu circle before right
[20:22] <OerHeks> the ubuntu menu is not something helpfull.
[20:22] <wafflejock> daftykins, actually gonna take the doge for a walk so he doesn't make a mess but brb
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: agree, its too lagy and too...
[20:23] <OerHeks> not tweakable :-D
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> where is the users choice when you need it..and on linux?
[20:23] <gebruiker> what app would you recommend to configure mime-types in Unity?
[20:24] <daftykins> gebruiker: this isn't a support channel, it says so in the topic - please join #ubuntu for that.
[20:24] <lotuspsychje> gebruiker: questions like that you can safely ask in #ubuntu also
[20:24] <OerHeks> besides the poor choise in systemsettings, there is no app afaik
[20:24] <gebruiker> ah shit i thought i was in #ubuntu
[20:24] <gebruiker> lol
[20:25] <daftykins> also, language.
[20:25] <gebruiker> seriously? "shit" is not allowed?
[20:25] <gebruiker> is this because of religious based morals?
[20:26] <OerHeks> keep it family friendly
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> !language
[20:26] <ubot5`> The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[20:26] <daftykins> gebruiker: no, ones where you're a human to other humans you want help from :)
[20:27] <OerHeks> grandma, what do you have such big frieten
[20:27] <nicomachus> lotuspsychje: took me a bit to get the screenshots done and uploaded, but here's my setup. Pretty minimal. https://imgur.com/a/JP0Y0
[20:27] <gebruiker> Guys, did you know that there has been research done towards using words that are considered family unfriendly, results might supprise you. That is why I asked ..
[20:28] <daftykins> gebruiker: serious suggestion here, if you want help from people, quit whilst you're behind
[20:28] <daftykins> fighting it just shows how much you should be avoided.
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: wow nice mate
[20:29] <nicomachus> newsbeuter needs work... just started using it a couple days ago. it's nice though
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: how do you get duckduckgo in black
[20:29] <gebruiker> daftykins: just pointing out biased belief systems, meant more as education than attacking daftykins
[20:30] <daftykins> i didn't take it as you attacking me, i just took it as you fighting rules that you should accept, or move on
[20:30] <daftykins> bye now
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: is that a newsreader or downloader?
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: ah found themes :p
[20:31] <nicomachus> lotuspsychje: for duckduckgo, it's in the settings. top right. and newsbeuter is an RSS reader
[20:31] <gebruiker> alright, did not know the irrationality behind it. I will leave it then. No worries
[20:31] <gebruiker> bye
[20:31] <nicomachus> !guidelines > gebruiker
[20:31] <ubot5`> gebruiker, please see my private message
[20:33] <nicomachus> I'd like to figure out how to get newsbeuter to open links in Lynx though, without changing my default browser to Lynx. because it's running on my home PC and I just get it through SSH, so opening the links in a full browser can be slowwww
[20:33] <lotuspsychje> gebruiker: we all believe here in the respect for each other way-support method no offense
[20:35] <gebruiker> lotuspsychje: i am not trying to impose it, if these are the guidelines than so be it. I just belief in reason rather than engraved rules, that is how I grow. To each it own, I leave it as it is
[20:35] <gebruiker> :)
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> gebruiker: as we have large channels here, there must exist rules somehow to keep support in a behaved way
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> gebruiker: doesnt mean ypu cant think free yourself
[20:38] <gebruiker> lotuspsychje: i was not pointing to perspectives i was actually pointing out to scientific research regarding the underlying beliefs of these rules and how these family un-friendly words impact childeren
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: did you try links2 yet?
[20:42] <nicomachus> no, never heard of it
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> !info links2
[20:42] <ubot5`> links2 (source: links2): Web browser running in both graphics and text mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.12-1 (xenial), package size 2796 kB, installed size 4356 kB
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> i love it better then lynx
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> but not sure howto open links from newsbeuter
[20:48] <wafflejock> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23350513/
[20:49] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: http://synflood.at/newsbeuter/newsbeuter.html
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: http://moparx.com/configs/newsbeuter/
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> an example of config
[20:52] <nicomachus> yea the manpages have some info about setting the browser I think
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> would be nice if worked on links2
[20:55] <lotuspsychje> ok dreamtime here
[20:55] <lotuspsychje> have a nice evening guys
[20:56] <wafflejock> night lotuspsychje
[20:56] <lotuspsychje> nite nite
[21:03] <daftykins> wafflejock: er is that really your 16.04 install?
[21:04] <daftykins> you've got the wrong trousers on, gromit!
[21:06] <daftykins> Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-85-lowlatency root=UUID=d53b1c8e-3946-41d8-adb4-0775c8ed46d6 ro acpi_os_name=Linux acpi_osi= quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[21:06] <daftykins> that's both 14.04's kernel and outdated
[21:06] <daftykins> also not fond of those additional parameters
[21:09] <wafflejock> daftykins, yeah was from an upgrade from 14.04 but I had waited till 16.04.1 came out
[21:09] <wafflejock> see I should have some 4.x kernel though eh
[21:10] <wafflejock> had lowlatency installed for some MIDI Jack audio stuff I was messing around with but not really actively using it on here
[21:11] <wafflejock> daftykins, same problem happens when I use a bootable live USB too though, what to do?
[21:11] <daftykins> if i were you, grab a 16.04.1 ISO and boot that live, see if it misbehaves
[21:11] <daftykins> well it might be best to grab a log from that live session, as right now the log is flawed given the disparate versions
[21:11] <wafflejock> yah I've tried that already should I boot into live and get the Xorg from there?
[21:11] <wafflejock> k
[21:12] <daftykins> only if it's a 16.04.1 image
[21:12] <wafflejock> yeah pretty sure I still have that download just grabbed them all in the last few weeks to see what was going on here, will come with a more sane Xorg :)
[21:32] <daftykins> ^_^