[00:43] <infinity> Hey, look at that, proposed-migration works.
[00:44] <infinity> pitti: Looks like it's just waiting on autopkgtest stuff to function now.
[00:55] <tsimonq2> infinity: So you're saying the archive is open enough that I can start building packages against it in PPAs? XD
[00:56] <infinity> tsimonq2: That's been true for a while.
[00:56] <tsimonq2> Ooh cool!
[00:59] <tsimonq2> infinity: By the way, I *think* I created all the relevant wiki pages, does it look good to you?
[01:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ltrace (zesty-proposed/main) [0.7.3-5.1ubuntu4 => 0.7.3-6ubuntu1] (core)
[01:00] <infinity> tsimonq2: I'm not sure what I'm looking at, so maybe. :P
[01:01] <tsimonq2> infinity: w.u.c/ZestyZapus
[01:02] <infinity> tsimonq2: An empty copy/paste ReleaseNotes would be nice too.
[01:02] <tsimonq2> infinity: Will do
[01:02] <infinity> (ie: copy Yakkety's page, and remove the bugs and such)
[01:02] <infinity> So, not "empty", just less full.
[01:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: notmuch (zesty-proposed/main) [0.22.1-3ubuntu2 => 0.23-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[01:03] <tsimonq2> Ok.
[01:03] <slangasek> and please make sure the upgrade instructions are accurate for this point in the release cycle
[01:04] <slangasek> (some wiki archaeology showed that for the past 4 cycles, we've put out beta release notes telling users that 'update-manager' with no options would magically let them get the beta)
[01:06] <tsimonq2> infinity, slangasek: So I don't think I've actually stripped out the release notes for a new cycle yet, I'm copying YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes to ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes and basically stripping out everything? What should I be looking to change?
[01:06] <tsimonq2> Obviously the bugs and such but it seems to be more than that...
[01:06] <infinity> tsimonq2: Well, just stripping stuff that's clearly not relevant.  Lots of it can stay as a reminder to just update versions as we go, etc.
[01:06] <infinity> tsimonq2: Like, the bit about the kernel version can stay, and we update it as we go, that sort of thing.
[01:07] <tsimonq2> infinity: Ok, I'll take a shot at it and let's see how it goes. :)
[01:07]  * infinity moves on from archive stuff to cdimage stuff.
[01:07] <infinity> Maybe I can build some images tonight.
[01:07] <infinity> Which will look suspiciously like yakkety's images.
[01:09] <infinity> (base)root@nosferatu:~# lsb_release -r
[01:09] <infinity> Release:	17.04
[01:09] <infinity> Yay.
[01:09] <tsimonq2> infinity: What's the ETA on Debian syncing? I'm expecting Lubuntu and Kubuntu things from Sid.
[01:09] <teward> nice hostname, heh, nosferatu
[01:09] <infinity> tsimonq2: autosyncs will get turned on after autopkgtesting is happy.  So a day or two.  Not long.
[01:10] <slangasek> tsimonq2: you can dig into the history of the xenial one and copy the first revision to use as a base
[01:10] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Good idea.
[01:10] <tsimonq2> Ooh fun, I just got an upgrade on base-files...
[01:10] <tsimonq2> simon@semantic ~ $ lsb_release -r
[01:10] <tsimonq2> Release:        17.04
[01:11] <infinity> Yeahp.  That's it.  zesty's done.
[01:11] <tsimonq2> infinity: Looking fine on my production machine. ;)
[01:11] <infinity> Everyone take a 6mo break.
[01:11] <teward> heh
[01:12] <tsimonq2> Count me in! :P
[01:13] <tsimonq2> Now if only I could convince someone to upload a package to Debian for the Lubuntu team...
[01:14] <teward> tsimonq2: not so simple.  trust me.
[01:15] <tsimonq2> teward: I know. :/
[01:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debootstrap (zesty-proposed/main) [1.0.81ubuntu2 => 1.0.81ubuntu3] (core)
[01:21] <tsimonq2> infinity: How's it look?
[03:25] <tsimonq2> infinity: I find myself wanting to use Zesty sbuilds already. (not joking :P) Is a patch coming adding Zesty support or can I submit something somewhere? ;)
[03:32] <tsimonq2> !info debootstrap unstable
[03:32] <ubot5`> debootstrap (source: debootstrap): Bootstrap a basic Debian system. In component main, is extra. Version 1.0.84 (unstable), package size 63 kB, installed size 252 kB
[04:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: erlang (zesty-proposed/main) [1:18.3.4.4+dfsg-1ubuntu2 => 1:19.1.4+dfsg-1ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[04:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: xz-utils (zesty-proposed/main) [5.1.1alpha+20120614-2.1ubuntu1 => 5.2.2-1.2] (core) (sync)
[05:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: xorg (zesty-proposed/main) [1:7.7+13ubuntu4 => 1:7.7+16ubuntu1] (core, xorg)
[05:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lvm2 (zesty-proposed/main) [2.02.160-1ubuntu1 => 2.02.164-1ubuntu1] (core)
[05:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-6 (zesty-proposed/main) [6.2.0-5ubuntu12 => 6.2.0-7ubuntu11] (no packageset) (sync)
[05:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: healpix-cxx (zesty-proposed/universe) [3.30.0-2ubuntu1 => 3.30.0-3ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[05:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gcc-6 [sync] (zesty-proposed) [6.2.0-7ubuntu11]
[05:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: psychtoolbox-3 (zesty-proposed/universe) [3.0.12.20160414.dfsg1-1ubuntu2 => 3.0.13.20160910.dfsg1-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[05:47] <pitti> meh, how many creative exceptions is swiftclient going to throw at me :/
[05:50] <pitti> infinity: ah, you already moved over the old y-proposed bits, nice
[05:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gconfmm2.6 (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.28.3-0ubuntu3 => 2.28.3-1] (ubuntustudio) (sync)
[05:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kadu-mime-tex (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.1-1.1ubuntu1 => 2.1-1.2] (no packageset) (sync)
[05:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nfstrace (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.4.2-2ubuntu3 => 0.4.2-3ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[06:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: why (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.34-4ubuntu5 => 2.36-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[06:11] <infinity> pitti: Yup, yup.
[06:16] <doko> infinity: copied gcc-6 including binaries, so once they are published, I don't have any other updates for now
[06:17] <pitti> meh, why is that ddeb-retriever thing hanging since yesterday
[06:28] <pitti> ah, it complained about non-existing archive.u.c/ zesty indexes; they are there now, but this run is also going to take a loooot of time
[06:29] <pitti> it's iterating through get_binary_publications() and that now has the entirey zesty archive (not just the few builds since yesterday)
[07:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debhelper [source] (zesty-proposed) [10.2.2ubuntu1]
[07:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ghc (zesty-proposed/universe) [7.10.3-9ubuntu1 => 7.10.3-10] (no packageset) (sync)
[07:25] <cjwatson> pitti: I think that's basically to be expected but it should eventually catch up
[07:29] <pitti> cjwatson: here's hope :) (these huge iterations are terribly prone to solar radiation-style failures)
[07:30] <pitti> I have it running in foreground (byobu) on germanium, if anyone wants to see the progress
[07:36] <cjwatson> pitti: Right, it may take a few goes, but the basic LP queries are reasonably well-optimised now so it shouldn't have horrible quadratic difficulties.
[07:52] <pitti> cjwatson: you are a debootstrap committer, would you mind adding a zesty symlink? (if you don't have time I can backport it in SRUs, but "upstream first" and all that..)
[08:00] <cjwatson> pitti: in sprint sessions, but I'll do it later today, sure
[08:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mia (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.4.3-2ubuntu1 => 2.4.3-2ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[08:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cups (zesty-proposed/main) [2.2.0-2 => 2.2.0-2build1] (core)
[08:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debootstrap [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.0.81ubuntu3]
[08:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: deal.ii (zesty-proposed/universe) [8.4.2-1 => 8.4.2-1build1] (no packageset)
[08:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mia [source] (zesty-proposed) [2.4.3-2ubuntu2]
[08:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gammu (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.37.4-1 => 1.37.4-1build1] (no packageset)
[08:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gts (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.7.6+darcs121130-1.2 => 0.7.6+darcs121130-1.2build1] (no packageset)
[08:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mpi-testsuite (zesty-proposed/universe) [3.2+dfsg-1 => 3.2+dfsg-1build1] (no packageset)
[08:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: telepathy-ofono (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.2+16.10.20160909-0ubuntu1 => 0.2+16.10.20160909-0ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[08:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: urwid (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.3.1-2build1 => 1.3.1-2build2] (no packageset)
[08:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: golang-1.7 (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.7.1-2ubuntu1 => 1.7.1-2ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[08:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ostree (zesty-proposed/universe) [2016.11-1 => 2016.11-1build1] (no packageset)
[08:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: julia (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.4.7-1 => 0.4.7-1build1] (no packageset)
[08:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-app-launch (zesty-proposed/main) [0.9+16.10.20160928-0ubuntu1 => 0.9+16.10.20160928-0ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[09:05] <sil2100> Hey guys! I still see Archive: closed in the topic, but I was wondering if that's the case - can I already publish packages to zesty?
[09:06] <sil2100> We need to sync our yakkety touch work that was ongoing in our yakkety-overlay PPA when yakkety was frozen
[09:06] <apw> sil2100, zesty is closed
[09:06] <apw> sil2100, so things will block in unapproved there ... yakkety is in sru mode now
[09:07] <sil2100> Ok, yeah, we need to sync all those packages to zesty now so we can continue development on the development series where we left off
[09:07] <sil2100> So I'll just wait a bit still
[09:07] <sil2100> Thanks :)
[09:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted julia [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.4.7-1build1]
[09:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ostree [source] (zesty-proposed) [2016.11-1build1]
[09:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-app-launch [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.9+16.10.20160928-0ubuntu2]
[09:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mpi-testsuite [source] (zesty-proposed) [3.2+dfsg-1build1]
[09:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted urwid [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.3.1-2build2]
[09:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted telepathy-ofono [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.2+16.10.20160909-0ubuntu2]
[09:14] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks doko
[09:14] <LocutusOfBorg> wrt mia
[09:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cups [source] (zesty-proposed) [2.2.0-2build1]
[09:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gammu [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.37.4-1build1]
[09:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gts [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.7.6+darcs121130-1.2build1]
[09:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted deal.ii [source] (zesty-proposed) [8.4.2-1build1]
[09:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted golang-1.7 [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.7.1-2ubuntu2]
[09:19] <pitti> sil2100: you can do that actually -- unapproved can be uploaded to (it will just be held for a while)
[09:19] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, please openmpi before opening archive :)
[09:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: openmpi (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.10.3-3ubuntu2 => 2.0.1-5] (no packageset) (sync)
[09:22] <sil2100> pitti: oh, right, let me spam unapproved with ~25 packages then, hope those won't get rejected by someone
[09:22] <sil2100> Thanks o//
[09:23] <pitti> sil2100: it will have good company (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=) ☺
[09:24] <pitti> sil2100: so all opening silos which previously landed to y should be rebuilt (or something else) to land in z instead, right?
[09:24] <pitti> sil2100: I have such a case in https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 (some triple landings)
[09:24] <sil2100> Yeah, you need to reconfigure it and possibly rebuild
[09:24] <pitti> sil2100: i. e. I wonder if that can/should be salvaged and modified, or just closed and open a new one
[09:25] <sil2100> Oh, yeah, I guess you could abandon it and then re-assign by building, after switching to zesty
[09:25] <sil2100> We also could:
[09:26] <sil2100> Just edit it, modify it to zesty, remove the yakkety packages and rebuild
[09:26] <pitti> sil2100: ah, I see in "Edit" that I can select v+x+z now
[09:26] <sil2100> Yeah
[09:26] <pitti> sil2100: thanks
[09:26] <sil2100> Just remember you'd need to manually get rid of the yakkety packages there :)
[09:27] <pitti> sil2100: i. e. delete them from the PPA, or do I need to tell bileto too?
[09:27] <sil2100> pitti: just deleting from the PPA, bileto will pick up which ones are available during the nearest build
[09:27] <sil2100> (after they're unpublished fully)
[09:31] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, I guess notmuch sync will make it FTBFS everywhere, but meh, I have a merge ready if you want
[09:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: address-book-service (zesty-proposed/main) [0.1.2+16.10.20160920-0ubuntu1 => 0.1.2+16.10.20161007-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[09:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libnftnl (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.0.6-1ubuntu1 => 1.0.6-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu (zesty-proposed/main) [16.10.3 => 16.10.2] (ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: indicator-network (zesty-proposed/main) [0.8.0+16.10.20160930.5-0ubuntu2 => 0.8.0+16.10.20161013-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libertine (zesty-proposed/main) [1.4.2+16.10.20161003-0ubuntu1 => 1.4.2+16.10.20161005-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: go-unityscopes (zesty-proposed/primary) [1.0+16.10.20161014-0ubuntu1]
[09:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lxc-android-config (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.230+16.10.20161004-0ubuntu1 => 0.230+16.10.20161014-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[09:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: online-accounts-api (zesty-proposed/main) [0.1+16.10.20161003.1-0ubuntu1 => 0.1+16.10.20161006.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[09:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mir (zesty-proposed/main) [0.24.0+16.10.20160815.3-0ubuntu2 => 0.24.1+16.10.20160928-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[09:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qtbase-opensource-src-gles (zesty-proposed/universe) [5.6.1+dfsg-3ubuntu6~4 => 5.6.1+dfsg-3ubuntu7~2] (no packageset) (sync)
[09:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qtmultimedia-opensource-src (zesty-proposed/main) [5.6.1-2ubuntu1~1 => 5.6.1-2ubuntu2~1] (kubuntu, qt5, ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[09:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qtbase-opensource-src (zesty-proposed/main) [5.6.1+dfsg-3ubuntu6~4 => 5.6.1+dfsg-3ubuntu7~2] (kubuntu, qt5, ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qtmultimedia-opensource-src-gles (zesty-proposed/universe) [5.6.1-2ubuntu1~1 => 5.6.1-2ubuntu2~1] (no packageset) (sync)
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qtubuntu-media (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.8.1+16.10.20160815.1-0ubuntu1 => 0.8.1+16.10.20160927-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qtorganizer5-eds (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.1.1+16.10.20160820-0ubuntu1 => 0.1.1+16.10.20160928-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: repowerd (zesty-proposed/universe) [2016.08.3+16.10.20160830.1-0ubuntu1 => 2016.10+16.10.20161007-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: telephony-service (zesty-proposed/main) [0.1+16.10.20160909.1-0ubuntu1 => 0.1+16.10.20160927-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-system-settings (zesty-proposed/main) [0.4+16.10.20160927-0ubuntu3 => 0.4+16.10.20160930.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-app-launch (zesty-proposed/main) [0.9+16.10.20160928-0ubuntu2 => 0.9+16.10.20161003.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-touch-session (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.108+16.10.20160817.1-0ubuntu1 => 0.108+16.10.20161011-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[09:38] <cjwatson> pitti: debootstrap committed upstream.  not going to worry about rushing an upload since apparently it's already in zesty-proposed
[09:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.3.2135+16.10.20161003.1 => 1.3.2135+16.10.20161003.1] (ubuntu-qt-packages) (sync)
[09:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: unity-scopes-shell (zesty-proposed/main) [0.5.8+16.10.20160921-0ubuntu1 => 0.5.8+16.10.20161004-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[09:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-ui-toolkit (zesty-proposed/main) [1.3.2135+16.10.20161003.1 => 1.3.2135+16.10.20161003.1] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-qt-packages) (sync)
[09:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: usensord (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.1+16.10.20160909-0ubuntu1 => 1.1+16.10.20160928.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[09:39] <sil2100> The copy happened, apologies for the spam ^
[09:39] <pitti> cjwatson: ah yes, arges just uploaded it; thanks
[09:40] <pitti> cjwatson: apparently http://launchpadlibrarian.net/287547485/debootstrap_1.0.81ubuntu1_1.0.81ubuntu2.diff.gz also wasn't applied yet -- while you are at it, would you mind doing that?
[09:45] <cjwatson> pitti: uh that's more brain than I have right now
[09:45] <cjwatson> pitti: maybe a bug report?
[09:47]  * pitti punts to slangasek as TIL; apparently he didn't send it yet (sorry, still need to babysit infra right now)
[09:47] <pitti> cjwatson: ok; seemed simple enough to me, but let's do this via bug then
[10:02] <pitti> sil2100: rebuild says "consider abandoning and rebuild", so that it'll create an entirely new PPA (maybe this is to use the new ephemeral PPAs)
[10:02] <pitti> sil2100: should I do that instead, or just rebuild?
[10:10] <pitti> I'll try a normal build for now
[10:10] <sil2100> pitti: I guess both choices should just work, Bileto handles rather nicely series switches
[10:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lsh-utils (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.1-9ubuntu1 => 2.1-10] (no packageset) (sync)
[10:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: xml-core (zesty-proposed/main) [0.15ubuntu1 => 0.16] (core) (sync)
[11:04] <pitti> infinity: autopkgtest stuff is ready now (sorry for delay, next cycle this will be much quicker); so time to unfreeze now?
[11:06] <LocutusOfBorg> <3
[12:11] <xnox> Laney, can you fix transition tracker to look at zesty please?
[12:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: makedumpfile (zesty-proposed/main) [1:1.6.0-2ubuntu1 => 1:1.6.0-2ubuntu2] (core)
[12:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted openmpi [sync] (zesty-proposed) [2.0.1-5]
[12:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: makedumpfile (yakkety-proposed/main) [1:1.6.0-2ubuntu1 => 1:1.6.0-2ubuntu1.1] (core)
[12:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openmpi [s390x] (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.0.1-5] (no packageset)
[12:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openmpi [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.0.1-5] (no packageset)
[12:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openmpi [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.0.1-5] (no packageset)
[12:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openmpi [i386] (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.0.1-5] (no packageset)
[13:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cgroup-lite (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1.11 => 1.12] (no packageset)
[13:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openmpi [powerpc] (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.0.1-5] (no packageset)
[13:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openmpi [arm64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.0.1-5] (no packageset)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: makedumpfile (xenial-proposed/main) [1:1.5.9-5ubuntu0.1 => 1:1.5.9-5ubuntu0.2] (core)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: makedumpfile (trusty-proposed/main) [1:1.5.9-5~ubuntu14.04.1 => 1.5.5-2ubuntu1.6] (core)
[13:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openmpi [armhf] (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.0.1-5] (no packageset)
[13:26] <rbasak> arges: I'm looking at SRUs with bdmurray right now. But we'd skipped over vlan because it was only 6 days old.
[13:27] <arges> rbasak: oh, the page must have refreshed because it says 7
[13:27]  * rbasak refreshes
[13:27] <rbasak> Ah :-)
[13:27] <arges> rbasak: anyway i'll be done and let you both have at them
[13:28] <rbasak> bdmurray: how much more time do you have for us today?
[13:28] <bdmurray> rbasak: its moved to 7 now
[13:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openmpi [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [2.0.1-5]
[13:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openmpi [armhf] (zesty-proposed) [2.0.1-5]
[13:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openmpi [powerpc] (zesty-proposed) [2.0.1-5]
[13:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openmpi [s390x] (zesty-proposed) [2.0.1-5]
[13:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openmpi [arm64] (zesty-proposed) [2.0.1-5]
[13:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openmpi [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed) [2.0.1-5]
[13:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openmpi [i386] (zesty-proposed) [2.0.1-5]
[13:44] <bdmurray> arges: actually we are done for the day
[14:17] <slangasek> LocutusOfBorg: confirmed, I do see it FTBFS here if I set TERM=unknown in the environment.  Have these patches to notmuch been forwarded to Debian?  I assumed that if it FTBFS here it would FTBFS in Debian also, and furthermore the reason it was on my radar was that the version of notmuch in yakkety was FTBFS
[14:18] <slangasek> pitti: sorry, what was it you were punting to me?
[14:19] <pitti> slangasek: I tried to ask Colin about applying http://launchpadlibrarian.net/287547485/debootstrap_1.0.81ubuntu1_1.0.81ubuntu2.diff.gz to Debian, but he prefers a bug
[14:19] <slangasek> ah, k
[14:20] <pitti> slangasek: actually, I wonder why the "doing_variant fakechroot &&" part is necessary
[14:20] <pitti> slangasek: wouldn't it be more correct to just test whether initscripts.postinst exists?
[14:22] <pitti> slangasek: sorry, ignore me -- this was already present before
[14:22] <slangasek> pitti: don't ask me, that's a pre-existing check :)
[14:22] <slangasek> right
[14:22] <pitti> slangasek: . o { like 12 releases in between and we managed to never actually fix initscripts? }
[14:24] <slangasek> pitti: looks to me like it *is* fixed in current initscripts
[14:24] <slangasek> but debootstrap has to work for historical releases, so...
[14:30] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, do you want the patch? I forwarded the message on #debian-devel
[14:30] <slangasek> LocutusOfBorg: is there a reason it's not filed as a bug in the BTS?
[14:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted boost1.62 [sync] (zesty-proposed) [1.62.0+dfsg-1]
[14:32] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, bremner usually answers quickly on irc :)
[14:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: boost1.62 [s390x] (zesty-proposed/none) [1.62.0+dfsg-1] (no packageset)
[14:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: boost1.62 [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed/none) [1.62.0+dfsg-1] (no packageset)
[14:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted boost1.62 [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed) [1.62.0+dfsg-1]
[14:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted boost1.62 [s390x] (zesty-proposed) [1.62.0+dfsg-1]
[14:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted go-unityscopes [sync] (zesty-proposed) [1.0+16.10.20161014-0ubuntu1]
[14:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: boost1.62 [powerpc] (zesty-proposed/none) [1.62.0+dfsg-1] (no packageset)
[15:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted boost1.62 [powerpc] (zesty-proposed) [1.62.0+dfsg-1]
[15:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: boost1.62 [amd64] (zesty-proposed/none) [1.62.0+dfsg-1] (no packageset)
[15:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted boost1.62 [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [1.62.0+dfsg-1]
[15:12] <barry> pitti: so zesty is semi-open? :)  anyway, yay for those removals!
[15:13] <pitti> barry: yes; it can be uploaded to since yesterday, just not much is landing yet
[15:13] <barry> pitti: probably should update the channel topic
[15:15] <pitti> barry: done
[15:16] <barry> pitti: thanks!
[15:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: amule (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.4.0~git20151120.0023527bc2-1ubuntu5 => 1:2.3.2-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[15:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: steghide (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.5.1-10ubuntu1 => 0.5.1-11] (no packageset) (sync)
[15:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: partman-btrfs (zesty-proposed/main) [21ubuntu2 => 23ubuntu1] (core)
[15:17] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23349008/
[15:17] <LocutusOfBorg> does it sound good for you?
[15:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: casacore (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.1.0-1ubuntu3 => 2.1.0-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[15:18] <slangasek> LocutusOfBorg: why did Debian not also ignore the testsuite on armhf?
[15:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gambas3 (zesty-proposed/universe) [3.8.4-6ubuntu1 => 3.9.1-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[15:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: tor (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.2.8.8-1ubuntu1 => 0.2.8.9-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[15:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libnftnl (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.0.6-1ubuntu1 => 1.0.6-2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[15:19] <slangasek> LocutusOfBorg: the newer notmuch package is built on armhf in unstable; I don't like us ignoring a testsuite that Debian doesn't have to ignore
[15:19] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, the reason is new gdb
[15:19] <LocutusOfBorg> I discussed this a while ago with the Debian maintainer
[15:20] <LocutusOfBorg> and the new gdb seems to hang
[15:20] <LocutusOfBorg> I opened a bug report some minutes ago
[15:20] <slangasek> hmm, why do we have a newer gdb than unstable :/  ok
[15:21] <LocutusOfBorg> please don't ask that, I'm sad for this, I loose half a day for notmuch :/ and now I have the same issues trying to push the patch in Debian, where the TERM is set somewhere, and the gdb is too old to be an issue
[15:21] <LocutusOfBorg> how can the maintainer care about my patch?
[15:22] <LocutusOfBorg> «notmuch: testsuite fails with TERM=unknown». https://bugs.debian.org/841319
[15:22] <ubot5`> Debian bug 841319 in src:notmuch "notmuch: testsuite fails with TERM=unknown" [Normal,Open]
[15:23] <nacc> it would appear our gdb is not really related to the unstable version (seeing a lot of 0ubuntu... versions)
[15:23] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, well, you might try to avoid the armhf || true and see if gdb (7.12-0ubuntu1) yakkety; urgency=medium is good now
[15:24] <nacc> LocutusOfBorg: that one is only actually in z-p, right?
[15:24] <LocutusOfBorg> yes
[15:24] <LocutusOfBorg> but when I had the notmuch issue  7.11.90.20160824-0ubuntu2 was in proposed
[15:24] <LocutusOfBorg> so, maybe just drop and reapply if stuff still breaks
[15:27] <LocutusOfBorg> I don't know why gcc is so different, binutils is so different, gdb is so different, and everything related :/ makes me loose lot of time
[15:37] <doko> slangasek: because Debian's gdb is usually at least six months behind
[15:39] <LocutusOfBorg> and why gcc is so different?
[15:41] <doko> trolling today?
[15:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-5 (zesty-proposed/main) [5.4.1-2ubuntu2 => 5.4.1-3ubuntu1] (core)
[15:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gcc-5 [source] (zesty-proposed) [5.4.1-3ubuntu1]
[16:02] <LocutusOfBorg> no troll, just asking
[16:02] <LocutusOfBorg> I have to fight to a new gcc failure with virtualbox team, and I see between -6 and -7 there are 300k LOC changed :/
[16:03] <slangasek> LocutusOfBorg: why do you care about the LOC changed in gcc?  I think that's the wrong end of the stick for debugging your problem
[16:05] <doko> LocutusOfBorg: see Debian #841292
[16:05] <ubot5`> Debian bug 841292 in gcc-6 "gcc-6: flexible array support broken" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/841292
[16:05] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks! much appreciated
[16:06] <LocutusOfBorg> actually I guess we fixed it
[16:06] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm rebuilding
[16:06] <LocutusOfBorg> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-virtualbox/virtualbox.git/commit/?id=48c79449c79fb38592140f61101629ba01667d78
[16:07] <LocutusOfBorg> sorry for for being pesty, but breaking virtualbox and autodecruft makes me sad :(
[16:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-6 (zesty-proposed/main) [6.2.0-7ubuntu11 => 6.2.0-8ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[16:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gcc-6 [source] (zesty-proposed) [6.2.0-8ubuntu1]
[17:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted bbpager [sync] (zesty-proposed) [0.4.7-5]
[17:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted fftw3 [sync] (zesty-proposed) [3.3.5-1]
[17:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mistral [source] (zesty-proposed) [3.0.0-1ubuntu1]
[17:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pango1.0 [sync] (zesty-proposed) [1.40.3-2]
[17:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted erlang [source] (zesty-proposed) [1:19.1.4+dfsg-1ubuntu1]
[17:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted notmuch [sync] (zesty-proposed) [0.23-2]
[17:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ltrace [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.7.3-6ubuntu1]
[17:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted plasma-discover [source] (zesty-proposed) [5.7.5-0ubuntu3]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted address-book-service [sync] (zesty-proposed) [0.1.2+16.10.20161007-0ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gconfmm2.6 [sync] (zesty-proposed) [2.28.3-1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted healpix-cxx [source] (zesty-proposed) [3.30.0-3ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kadu-mime-tex [sync] (zesty-proposed) [2.1-1.2]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libnftnl [sync] (zesty-proposed) [1.0.6-2]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lxc-android-config [sync] (zesty-proposed) [0.230+16.10.20161014-0ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted nfstrace [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.4.2-3ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted psychtoolbox-3 [sync] (zesty-proposed) [3.0.13.20160910.dfsg1-1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qtbase-opensource-src [sync] (zesty-proposed) [5.6.1+dfsg-3ubuntu7~2]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qtmultimedia-opensource-src [sync] (zesty-proposed) [5.6.1-2ubuntu2~1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu [sync] (zesty-proposed) [16.10.2]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted indicator-network [sync] (zesty-proposed) [0.8.0+16.10.20161013-0ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lvm2 [source] (zesty-proposed) [2.02.164-1ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted online-accounts-api [sync] (zesty-proposed) [0.1+16.10.20161006.3-0ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qtmultimedia-opensource-src-gles [sync] (zesty-proposed) [5.6.1-2ubuntu2~1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qtubuntu-media [sync] (zesty-proposed) [0.8.1+16.10.20160927-0ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xorg [source] (zesty-proposed) [1:7.7+16ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ghc [sync] (zesty-proposed) [7.10.3-10]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mir [sync] (zesty-proposed) [0.24.1+16.10.20160928-0ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qtorganizer5-eds [sync] (zesty-proposed) [0.1.1+16.10.20160928-0ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xz-utils [sync] (zesty-proposed) [5.2.2-1.2]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libertine [sync] (zesty-proposed) [1.4.2+16.10.20161005-0ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted why [sync] (zesty-proposed) [2.36-2]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qtbase-opensource-src-gles [sync] (zesty-proposed) [5.6.1+dfsg-3ubuntu7~2]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted amule [sync] (zesty-proposed) [1:2.3.2-1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted makedumpfile [source] (zesty-proposed) [1:1.6.0-2ubuntu2]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted repowerd [sync] (zesty-proposed) [2016.10+16.10.20161007-0ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted telephony-service [sync] (zesty-proposed) [0.1+16.10.20160927-0ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-system-settings [sync] (zesty-proposed) [0.4+16.10.20160930.1-0ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles [sync] (zesty-proposed) [1.3.2135+16.10.20161003.1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted unity-scopes-shell [sync] (zesty-proposed) [0.5.8+16.10.20161004-0ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xml-core [sync] (zesty-proposed) [0.16]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lsh-utils [sync] (zesty-proposed) [2.1-10]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted steghide [sync] (zesty-proposed) [0.5.1-11]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-touch-session [sync] (zesty-proposed) [0.108+16.10.20161011-0ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted usensord [sync] (zesty-proposed) [1.1+16.10.20160928.1-0ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted partman-btrfs [source] (zesty-proposed) [23ubuntu1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-ui-toolkit [sync] (zesty-proposed) [1.3.2135+16.10.20161003.1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-app-launch [sync] (zesty-proposed) [0.9+16.10.20161003.1-0ubuntu1]
[17:11] <doko> ugh, who approved these?
[17:11] <infinity> doko: Me.
[17:11] <infinity> doko: Did you have an opening announcement?
[17:11] <doko> well, gcc wasn't yet ready
[17:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted casacore [sync] (zesty-proposed) [2.1.0-3]
[17:11] <doko> infinity: yes, will send it once I'm ready
[17:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libnftnl [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.0.6-2ubuntu1]
[17:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gambas3 [source] (zesty-proposed) [3.9.1-1ubuntu1]
[17:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted tor [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.2.8.9-1ubuntu1]
[17:12] <infinity> doko: You told me 11h ago that gcc was ready. :P
[17:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: steghide [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.5.1-11] (no packageset)
[17:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: why [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.36-2] (no packageset)
[17:35] <tsimonq2> What is "why" and why is it in New Binary? :P
[17:36] <infinity> Those questions could probably be answered yourself. :P
[17:36] <tsimonq2> infinity: I was attempting to make a terrible joke. :P
[17:36] <slangasek> why's in queue
[17:36] <apw> there is no y in queue :)
[17:36] <infinity> Third base!
[17:36] <infinity> Wait...
[17:37] <tsimonq2> XD
[17:37] <infinity> I think we did this wrong.
[17:37] <slangasek> apw: nor in qiew
[17:37] <apw> :)
[17:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted why [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [2.36-2]
[17:37] <slangasek> poll: should sru-review be named qiew-review or queue-reveue?
[17:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: mysql-defaults (zesty-proposed/primary) [1.0.0]
[17:38] <tsimonq2> qiew-review just to confuse everyone... :P
[17:38] <slangasek> maybe a symlink to support both
[17:38] <tsimonq2> Good idea! :P
[17:38] <infinity> slangasek: code-qr
[17:39] <tsimonq2> So what source package was "why" from?
[17:39] <infinity> why
[17:40] <slangasek> infinity: +1
[17:40] <infinity> (queue entries are all by source package)
[17:40] <tsimonq2> Ah ok
[17:41] <infinity> slangasek: http://picturesofpeoplescanningqrcodes.tumblr.com/
[17:42] <tsimonq2> One thing I do wonder, was Mark hungry when naming Zesty Zapus? :P
[17:52] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: zesty mouse kebab would not be what leaps to my mind when hungry :P
[18:15] <wxl> acheronuk: considering it's a jumping mouse, interesting choice of words
[18:16] <acheronuk> lol
[18:41] <doko> infinity: slangasek: not sure if accepting packages while arm and ppc64 builders are disabled is a good idea ...
[18:42] <doko> no feedback from launchpad-ops yet
[18:48] <infinity> doko: Not going to turn on autosync until the buildd state is more pleasant, for sure, but the usual trickle of packages should be fine.  They'll catch up.
[18:53] <slangasek> infinity: do we have the toolchain built on those archs, though?
[18:54] <slangasek> well, looks like we have 6.2.0-7ubuntu11 on all archs, rather than 6.2.0-8ubuntu1
[18:55] <infinity> Indeed.  Is -7 to -8 such an amazingly awesome upgrade that it matters?
[18:55] <infinity> (If so, that contradicts what doko said half a day ago :P)
[18:57] <slangasek> ok
[19:01] <doko> yes, it matters
[19:01] <infinity> Is -7 horribly broken somehow?
[19:02] <infinity> Anyhow, I can re-freeze if we absolutely must have -8 for some reason.
[19:03]  * infinity freezes again.
[19:04] <doko> missing header files, and glibc build failures
[19:04] <infinity> Fun.
[19:05] <infinity> doko: I assume it'll all expose as build failures, not miscompilations?  (ie: we can retry stuff once -8 is built, and we're happy)
[19:05] <infinity> doko: If so, life's good.  Queue's refrozen, I'll thaw again once -8 is in.
[19:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: golang-go.crypto (xenial-proposed/main) [1:0.0~git20151201.0.7b85b09-2 => 1:0.0~git20161017.0.4428aee-0ubuntu0.1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[19:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: openjdk-8 (zesty-proposed/main) [8u111-b14-1ubuntu1 => 8u111-b14-2] (core)
[19:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted openjdk-8 [source] (zesty-proposed) [8u111-b14-2]
[19:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: notmuch (zesty-proposed/main) [0.23-2 => 0.23-2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[19:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted notmuch [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.23-2ubuntu1]
[20:08] <sakrecoer> greetings release team! pitti and infinity, would it be possible to have calligra back in the meta sometime soon now that it is in yakkety-updates?
[20:08] <sakrecoer> the Ubuntu Studio meta that is, sorry
[20:09] <krytarik> ...Krita.
[20:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: golang-go.crypto (yakkety-proposed/main) [1:0.0~git20160824.0.351dc6a-1ubuntu1 => 1:0.0~git20161017.0.4428aee-0ubuntu0.16.10.1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[20:20] <infinity> sakrecoer: Possibly, yes.  It might take some teaching germinate-update-metapackage how to pull from multiple pockets at once.
[20:21] <infinity> (or manually updating the meta lists, but then that would magically go away if someone ran ./update again, which is unintuitive)
[20:22] <sakrecoer> infinity: ok, is there anything the Studio team can do to facilitate this process?
[20:22] <infinity> sakrecoer: You could certainly SRU the manual edit version of the above.  Probably less you can do about fixing it the "right" way.  I'll have a talk with Colin about the germinate bits soonish.
[20:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-snapshot (zesty-proposed/universe) [20161006-1ubuntu1 => 20161019-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[20:23] <slangasek> but as they're unlikely to make further changes to the meta package in SRU (or be allowed to), they needn't block on the "right" way
[20:26] <infinity> slangasek: Indeed, the "wrong" way would be fine, especially for a non-LTS where further meta updates seem pretty unlikely.
[20:26] <infinity> slangasek: I wouldn't block them on doing it the hackish way.
[20:26] <infinity> sakrecoer: ^
[20:27] <pitti> agreed; we almost never change *-meta in non-LTS releases, as they are so short-lived anyway
[20:27] <pitti> so just monkey-patching it is fine -- if someone accidentally overwrites it with ./update, we'll see in SRU review
[20:32] <sakrecoer> thanks guys :) i forgot Colin's nick on IRC, but let me know what you come up with. meanwhile i will do my best to transmit your ideas to Studio team.
[20:34] <sakrecoer> my IRC avatar is parked here with hilghts and alarm bells so just poke me whene ever and i'll catch up with the backlog. if i don't hear from you, i hope you don't mind me come gently nagging about it :)
[20:36] <sakrecoer> ^pitti, infinity, slangasek, cjwatson
[21:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: golang-1.7 (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.7.1-2ubuntu2 => 1.7.3-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[21:16] <mwhudson> infinity, slangasek: can i get that approved? fixes ftbfs
[21:21] <slangasek> mwhudson: looking
[21:21] <slangasek> mwhudson: er, I mean, accepting
[21:21] <mwhudson> :)
[21:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted golang-1.7 [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.7.3-1ubuntu1]
[21:35] <mwhudson> slangasek: that one too?
[21:35] <mwhudson> er wait
[21:35] <mwhudson> golang-defaults which should end up in the queue soon
[21:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: golang-defaults (zesty-proposed/main) [2:1.6.1+1ubuntu2 => 2:1.7~1ubuntu1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[21:36] <mwhudson> that one
[22:07] <slangasek> mwhudson: accepted
[22:07] <mwhudson> slangasek: TRANSITION TIME!
[22:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted golang-defaults [source] (zesty-proposed) [2:1.7~1ubuntu1]
[22:07] <mwhudson> well, when the archive opens, anyway
[22:09] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Hey, ping. About a week and a half ago I emailed devel-permissions asking for a packageset update, and Łukasz seemed to start it or at the very minimum attempt it, am I missing out on something that I should be doing or has nobody had the time?
[22:09] <tsimonq2> (for lubuntu)
[22:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: runit (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.1.2-8ubuntu2 => 2.1.2-9ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[22:53] <slangasek> tsimonq2: I assume it's been a question of time; but I'm also not on the DMB so can't speak with authority on this
[22:54] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Ok, fair enough.
[22:54] <tsimonq2> infinity: ^^^
[23:11] <mwhudson> oh yeah and time to MIR golang-1.7
[23:13] <infinity> mwhudson: We don't need MIRs for new versions of an alread-in-main upstream.
[23:13] <infinity> mwhudson: Just need to make sure it has the same subscribers, etc.
[23:13] <mwhudson> infinity: oh ok
[23:14] <infinity> mwhudson: So, go make sure the team bug subscriptions are in place, and you're done.  The rest is up to us when it pops up on reports.
[23:18] <mwhudson> infinity: i did that and my machine crashed, it's some kind of conspiracy
[23:19] <infinity> Hah.
[23:19] <infinity> I'm not a religious man, but that sounds like a sign.
[23:21] <mwhudson> infinity: done, i think
[23:24] <mwhudson> infinity: will something prompt us to demote golang-1.6 when nothing is keeping it in main?
[23:24] <tsimonq2> .ts
[23:24] <tsimonq2> whoops
[23:24] <infinity> Yes.
[23:24] <mwhudson> cool