[00:08] yay tax! [00:09] >.< [00:09] it's nowhere near as bad as i imagined [00:09] prepare for pain: https://hackernoon.com/how-it-feels-to-learn-javascript-in-2016-d3a717dd577f#.lkhf7ltsk [00:11] lol; [00:11] I'm using $("#jquery").var("You bastard") [00:11] morning, m1nkey_ :-) [00:12] I'm on the uberwebs now :D [00:13] http://www.speedtest.net/result/5726288098.png [00:14] crikey [00:16] cable eh? [00:16] yeah [00:17] It's more expensive than DSL, but it's a million times more stable and doesn't suffer from line noise. [00:17] Plus, I don't have to deal with Bell. (Canada, yes.. they are _that_ bad) [00:19] i'd imagine your phone lines suck out there, yeah [00:19] my VDSL2 line syncs at 50 down 20 up :) shame the service sold is only 40 + 5 [00:20] m0nkey_: looks like a FUP applies? [00:20] Yeah, but it's only applied to uploads [00:21] It won't affect me too much. Most of my stuff is downloads [00:21] hmm i clicked through to the quebec pages and the 120/20 service is unlimited actually [00:21] :) [00:21] we have no FUP here \o/ [06:40] UP ? [06:40] FUP ? [07:43] Good morning [07:45] good morning popey [07:53] popey: muppet ... erm I mean morning obviously [08:09] morning boys and girls. [08:11] mornin brobostigon [08:11] morning Gargoyle [08:58] Good morning all! Happy Wednesday, and happy Evaluate Your Life Day! 😃 [09:23] * knightwise evaluated [09:31] JamesTait: Have evaluated. How do I level-up and what are the cheat codes? [09:32] TwistedLucidity, Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A. [09:32] Eeeeehh, Macarena! [09:32] how many xp do i get? [09:32] All the XP! [09:32] * brobostigon gives himself infinate experience points. :D [09:33] Well, at least that's a version of Windows that worked [09:33] My windows work. When I open the blinds. [09:33] * brobostigon shakes his head, does no one play D&D. [09:35] brobostigon: Isn't is all "Warhammer 40K Gathering the Magic" or something these days? [09:36] Our local games/comic shop is rammed most times I walk past. Never been in myself as I usually have the dogs and they find rolling dice really difficult. [09:40] there is a large warhammer 40k community but d&d continues undisturbed. much cheaper to play to [09:42] * zmoylan-pi currently is playing pixel dungeon on android tablet for my rogue alike fix [09:42] TwistedLucidity: "magic: the gathering" :) [09:44] brobostigon: I know. I should have tried to mash-up a few more names.... [09:44] :) [09:44] zmoylan-pi: Shattered Pixel Dungeon? [09:45] that should be easy enough, make a dog sized d20, :) [09:46] Huh, "Pixel Dungeon" and "Shattered Pixel Dungeon" both exist and look identical; I wonder which one is the legit one? [09:47] Crikey, there's loads of "??? Pixel Dungeon" games [09:48] with AND without malware :-) [09:48] Damn, I thought I had a legit one. [09:49] I can never get past level 3 and I've never found the shop. :-( [09:51] took a week to get to level 6, currently my best is killed by a cave spinner on level 14 [09:52] but then i bet rogue which thought me lessons that pay off in this game [09:56] I always get cornered by the fetid rat (or similar) when weak & unarmed. [09:56] Where is the shop? [09:57] on level 6 [09:57] Bugger [09:58] you have to beat the goo first... quite tough, if i haven't prepared it can easily beat you. you need better armour, 1-2 healing potions, honey pot, bombs. pick 2 of the previous to win easily [09:58] Characeter can't weak better armour, too weak [09:58] Never found a bomb [09:58] Or a "honey pot" [09:59] *wear better [09:59] i always play as barbarian which automatically identifies potions of strength [09:59] Heh. Potions are always a gamble [09:59] which beefs up strength by 1-2 before level 5 [10:00] I normally play as mage for the range weapon [10:01] most of the game is learning what everything does but it can help to read what some of the more obscure stuff does... http://pixeldungeon.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page [10:03] in rogue it was find mithril armour and a good katana to make it all the way to find the amulet of yendor... in pixel dungeon, great leather armour or good enchanted scale armour and an enhanced and enchanted short sword has gotten me to level 14 [10:58] morning :-) [10:59] had to stop what I was doing to ensure I got that in before midday :-) [11:01] well if we had a more fine grained summer time it would well be afternoon by now... :-) [11:02] good idea, we should move to analogue DST adjustments [11:03] that way days really will be shorter in the winter [11:03] dublin wants it's 25minutes back :-) http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/dublin-lost-its-time-zone-and-25-minutes-after-1916-rising-1.1977411 [11:04] america has a plan to war with blighty: https://youtu.be/kS2AlIJ621c [11:05] america has plans to invade everywere... britain is most likely the same [11:05] ditto russia and china [11:10] during wwii germany, britain AND america had plans to invade ireland [11:11] germany played on a wii? [11:11] that surprises me, because I thought nobody ever did that [11:12] they sold a lot of wii [11:12] a *lot* [11:12] cheap enough for novelty value sale [11:17] Or just run the Dolphin emulator [11:18] i was at a flea market last month and they had a toy section filled with old game cartridges and consoles.. for the real thing [11:49] :) [11:50] just went to my telco's high street store to see some poor woman queued up using her lunch hour to get something sorted, perhaps she hasn't heard of appointments [11:51] or has no faith in company and finds camping out making a fuss at a busy hour for them gets better results [11:51] my brother once parked his van inside shop doors to get a problem that had been fobbed off for weeks sorted [11:54] zmoylan-pi: Ram-raiding solves problems? [11:54] I really love google translate - had a German query on my a-z-listing WordPress plugin written in foreignistani: https://wordpress.org/support/topic/seiten-und-beitrage-artikel-anzeigen-lassen [11:54] his intent he said was to ram raid but that was twarted by the steep kerb outside which he slowed down for and then the automatic doors opening... [11:54] zmoylan-pi: :D [11:55] so he parked in entrance, slid over the bonnet and walked into the shop. manager walked up and said he couldn't do that. my brother looked at van in entrance and said, 'i think you'll find i did' [11:56] then he said 'i can't deal with you now, i'm dealing with this couple' motioning to the couple gawping at the van in the doorway... [11:57] to which my brothers reply was 'i think you'll find they're really interested in how you deal with this problem' to which they nodded [11:57] :D [11:58] he got his problem sorted with 2-3 hours... though he did have to mention his level of annoyance to the guy they sent out to fix things when he left to get a part. he never saw a service van drive so fast to get it... [11:59] what line of work was this? [12:00] he had ordered a new carpet and they came out put down the carpet and didn't bring enough to finish the job. so 10% of the room was uncarpeted and all the polite calls and drop ins got nothing sorted... it was always 'call back tomorrow' [12:02] i've seen him in action when a car tried to exit through an entrance at a shopping centre while we were driving in. and my brother wasn't shy on expressing his opinion of them till they backed up and let people into the place. [12:02] :D [12:03] the driver then made the stupid mistake of following him into the shop to give him a piece of their mind... didn't win that round either... [12:03] that's funny, i was visiting a lady friend in Cork/Limerick and commented on our petrol stations having in/out gates whereas everyone was just piling into one there, she said the Irish would never follow that... :D [12:03] zmoylan-pi: is he the irresistible force against an immovable object? [12:04] he's the *very* *loud* argument against stupidity that works just as well [12:04] daftykins: you have many lady friends. I'm starting to think you're normal [12:04] diddledan: don't believe a word of it ;) [12:04] :-p [12:04] well i think this phone shop lad messed up, as i've not seen my old SIM drop off the network yet [12:04] lol [12:04] two sims for the price of one? [12:05] i did try to get them to do that once, i said i had two phones and wanted to swap easier - i was told it couldn't be done [12:05] :-( [12:05] at first they thought i was trying to BUY a SIM cloning machine, i was all "err..." [12:05] wat [12:05] crazy, eh? [12:05] http://xn--rh8hj8g.ws/wat-shrunkenface.jpg [12:05] and you reply, why would i want a second cloning machine ... :-P [12:06] lol [12:06] cloneception [12:06] "yeah, what's wrong with the first?" [12:06] you don't like the colour [12:06] I already have the cloner, I just need sims to clone onto [12:06] it clashes with your dvd/blu ray copying equipment [12:07] probably black instead of silver? [12:07] before i left for the US, i popped in to ask about why i could text americans on T-Mobile but they couldn't reply, the first pimply faced youth pointed to another who piped up and said "well it's either a problem at their end or here" to which i gave him the sherlock of the day award [12:07] worse, 1970s fake wood panelling colour :-P [12:07] "funny that, you're telling me that a problem pertaining to communication between two sides involves a problem in one of two places... marvellous" [12:07] daftykins: it's probably a middle-out problem [12:08] ah here we go, reboot let it fall off [12:08] http://www.piedpiper.com/ [12:09] * daftykins blinks [12:30] does ubuntu phone have a way to use whatsapp yet (no troll) [12:31] lol [12:31] * diddledan offers http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UJo5aN4wxqE/VdXlKrXP9-I/AAAAAAABgWk/9AGetOpgeCA/s640/5d87d805cf039a268af0812193b3d80b.jpg [12:33] is asking for something and suffixing it with "no trolls!" like "pinch and a punch for the first of the month, and no returns!".. i.e. completely pointless suffixing? [12:34] nah [12:35] I like the reply to the pinch n punch with "punch and a kick for being a ***k" [12:35] and I make sure that the punch and kick are hard [12:36] i wouldn't play pinch punch with zmoylan-pi's brother [12:36] ;D [12:36] lol [12:36] can only guess where he'd park that van... [12:36] where the sun don't shine [12:36] (in a shopping centre?) [12:37] maybe a garage. most garages are dark! [12:44] :) [12:45] this is awesome: https://twitter.com/iizzzzzi/status/788387942242914305 [12:46] err [12:46] interesting [13:37] https://www.dropbox.com/s/g68bkpx6u5aol0x/VID_20161019_143245.mp4?dl=0 - Mischief in 4K! [13:39] but saving on bandwidth as it's a black and white cat... :-P [13:39] yep! [13:40] or is it your hardware? ;) [13:40] really she's a rainbow cat... [13:40] don't be silly my crts are green and black... :-P [13:53] zmoylan-pi: Apple II! [13:55] how else are you to play the orgeon trail? [13:57] zmoylan-pi: Best Apple II game - Choplifter :) [13:57] i wouldn't know, i had a spectrum :-) [13:57] the library had an apple ii but i only played with it for a few minutes [13:58] every school in ireland was given an apple ii by the government but only teachers were allowed near those [13:58] I had a couple of apple II's [13:58] our school was quite forward looking and got 6 c64s connected to 1 floppy drive [13:58] Hmmh, I'm on 16.10, don't even remember upgrading [13:59] I started with a Vic 20->C64->Apple II's->Amstrad 512 & then PC' [14:01] Sheesh, takes me back, selling Oric's BBC Model A & B, Atari's etc, can remember taking £20K in cash to the bank on the 1st day the BBC's were available for sale [14:02] staying up late for 2-3 days typing pages of hex into a hex loader and saving the program to tape [14:02] Heh, yeah, good thing with commodore's was you didn't have to fart round with the volume control on the cassete player [14:08] learning to adjust the volume in measurements finer than 1/1000 the thickness of a gnats hair taught you patience and fine motor control... :-D [14:44] ok, wierd leaflet just stuck through the door offering "Aromatherapy and ear candling"...... What on earth is ear candling...I don't even want to google that term === adam__ is now known as kabads [14:46] hopi ear candles, the idea is you light them and the vacuum caused by burning the air in the central hollow shaft pulls the wax out, but it's a huge load of rubbish and doesn't work [14:46] a very hippy ex had some which she tried out on me, she at first claimed all the mush left inside was from my ear, but i convinced her to try burning one on its' own which produced the same result - as good as homeopathy ;) [14:50] hmmh, homeopathy isn'tsomething I'm convinced of, my wife went to somebody doing homeopathic alergery tests, showed she was allergic to things like cauliflower etc, but test involved running an electric current across glass vials supposedly containing different things to see which reacted, but glass doesn't conduct electricity......so test couldn't work anyway [14:52] XD [14:52] well yeah i'm saying both are rubbish [14:53] Agreed, certainly sounds like [15:00] daftykins: Maybe I should suggest ear candling to my mum, she's always getting her ears syringed for ear wax, I can imagine her reaction to the idea at 76 years old :) [15:01] lol [15:01] i was a young impressionable lad and while on holiday in italy got a load of impacted wax by a wave in the sea hitting my ear [15:01] went to a chemist [15:02] they sold me an ear candle. thought it was gubbins but surely a chemist wouldn't sell me and crock of old rubbish? [15:02] turns out they are not like UK chemists [15:02] DJones: :D [15:03] anyway, after frutiless setting light to my ear holes i went to the hopsital for syringing and was seen v quickly [15:04] neat! did you do both for good measure? i hear some people get one done, then can't stand the imbalance [15:05] yes they did. i stood up and delcared "Excellente!" like i was in the ferrero rocher advert. [15:06] i had been really queasy and deaf for 2 days [15:07] oof [15:07] well i'm quite pleased you confirm ear candles to be utter rubbish [15:08] * diddledan shoves a table canle in his ear and declares victory [15:08] canlde* [15:08] anyone firing up the exomars landing? sad to see the service in use has a flash player :| [15:08] I canne speel [15:08] \o/ [15:09] flash will win-out in the end! [15:09] Flash Gordon sure [15:10] Flash, a-ah, saviour of the universe [15:10] Flash, a-ah, he'll save everyone of us [15:10] wat.. livestream still hasn't embraced html5?! [15:10] One of the best songs in a movie, and one of the best characters in a movie- Brian Blessed [15:10] diddledan: even Twitch are ahead... [15:11] I'm here: http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/ExoMars/Watch_ExoMars_arrival_and_landing [15:11] ear candles are worse than useless [15:11] as they may damage your ear [15:11] however olive oil is allegedly good for loosening wax, i would be scared of introudicing more things to my ear canal [15:11] surprised the italians didn't suggset it [15:12] foobarry: Must admit I've used olive oil and it does wierdly work [15:12] there are some very graphic videos on youtube of undoing some things some folks have tried [15:12] do bits of wax come out? [15:12] foobarry: Yes [15:12] foobarry: Its one of those "old wives tales" that do seem to work [15:12] the blob of wax that came out during the syringing (AKA hoovering ) was massive [15:13] he had a tiny pipette on a hoover [15:13] hehe [15:13] henry hoover? [15:13] it was like surfacing from under water [15:13] luigi [15:13] As they say, never stick anything smaller than your elbow in your ear....How many people are double jointed enough to stick their elbow in the ear canal [15:13] a housemate in Uni had it done via some automatic machine and said it was a horrible experience, the thing would just build up the pressure continually where he thought it would end up popping his eardum, although that lad was as soft as they get [15:14] it's not a good idea to pour oil in to your ear [15:15] ah just hold your nose and blow hard, eww both my ears just went very funky from doing just that [15:15] OK. I'm being thick here. [15:15] Gargoyle: the first step is admitting it [15:16] :D [15:16] It's three minutes since we should have heard a signal from the probe. Could it be another Beagle 2? [15:16] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/10/19/exomars-space-probe-schiaparelli-landing-mars-surface-live/ [15:16] How do I copy something to a NAS drive using terminal. (as root) [15:17] well what protocols is it sharing over? [15:17] The path shows up as /run/user/1000/gvfs/smb-share:server=nasbox2.local,share=documents/VMs [15:17] samba? [15:17] Depends what it supports I guess, cifs, ssh [15:17] yeah so it's samba, does "df -h" not give it away under another mountpoint? [15:18] so it's a samba share, if it's already mounted just copy it [15:18] Gargoyle: sounds like one of those GUI only mounts that to me, i'd do it again by hand i think [15:18] strikes me that you may've used a GUI file manager? [15:18] Yeah. Just browsed to is using "files" [15:18] unmount and remount via term :) [15:19] why are you root for the copying though, what's being copied? [15:19] Or, different approach, can I launch "files" as root? (need root to read the source because its my old HFS+ partition) [15:19] yes with "gksu nautilus" i think, assuming we're talking the standard unity program [15:19] (in the alt+F2 launcher if that's still a thing) [15:22] and root nautilus doesn't seem to want to find the nas box! [15:22] it won't be mounted as that user, so unmount it from the other then repeat [15:22] or just do it via glorious CLI! \o/ [15:22] although i thought ID 1000 was root, *shrug* [15:23] yeah, I think cli is the way :-) [15:23] ah no it's the noob user [15:23] 0 is root [15:23] yeah that's the one :> [15:24] mount -t cifs //IP/share /mnt -o username=blah,password=blah,iocharset=utf8 [15:24] that sorta thing [15:27] daftykins, Went with rsync [15:27] remembered I had enabled it on the NAS for my homedir backups. :-) [15:27] that's a protocol o0 [15:28] i thought that solely functioned over file sharing protocols [15:28] nope, rsync has its own. [15:28] or it can use ssh too I think. [15:29] mmm if you want it slow, ah well all's well that ends well :> [15:36] daftykins: "I do like a bit of gorgonzola" [15:36] eh? [15:37] wallace & gromit [15:37] ah i thought i recognised it, but only vaguely [15:37] it's the wrong trousers, diddledan! D: [15:37] it was in reference to your "all's well that ends well" which made me think of them [15:38] ah har! [15:43] ok the esa stream is back [15:49] ahh. nuts.... [15:49] used wrong syntax [15:50] I am actually running the copy over ssh! [15:50] But I'm past half way now... might as well leave it and go and make a brew. [15:50] ;) [15:50] https://twitter.com/UdellGames/status/788690145822306304 [15:52] ooh that's evil [15:53] daftykins, Whats the best way to mount shares that are not always available. Just throw them in fstab and they will timeout when I'm not at home? [15:54] put them in fstab with options noauto,user and you can mount them when you want them. noauto means it won't automatically mount at boot and user means it will allow anyone on the system to mount it rather than requiring root [15:57] diddledan, found a better option. apparently adding "_netdev" to the mount command will trigger it to mount and unmount whenever the network config changes. [15:57] http://askubuntu.com/questions/194727/mounting-samba-share-whenever-its-available-unmounting-when-its-not [15:57] wow they actually did something about that at last [15:57] only took forever. [16:00] still putting credentials in plaintext, (though admittedly that can be done in /root/ and set to 400 perms instead of putting them in fstab) [16:03] even better is 000 perms then nobody can read it at all :-p [16:03] apparently /etc/shadow is 000? [16:03] * diddledan checks [16:04] whoever told me that lied [16:04] 640 [16:04] my /etc/shadow is root:shadow 0644 [16:04] err [16:04] Haven't got any credentials for the share anyway. [16:04] http://www.digimap.gg/marine/ais/ Commodore Clipper is in the harbour, i'm gonna go record a bit of it with the new phone :> [16:04] 0640 [16:04] Gargoyle: set some ;D [16:05] :D [16:05] apparently it's not moving [16:05] that's a good thing, means i can cycle over and catch it... [16:06] catch it like a cricket-ball? [16:06] in my lens! [16:06] isn't it a tad heavy for that? :-p [16:06] aah [16:06] * diddledan pornographs daftykins [16:07] who spies on a spy? [16:39] https://www.dropbox.com/s/0yn0wajfwovnhwh/IMG_20161019_171750.jpg?dl=0 [16:40] ugghhh. When did dropbox start with the near-fullscreen signup overlay? [16:43] it's been the same for years, you just hit the X and move on :) [16:43] daftykins: that's not a very big boat [16:43] https://www.dropbox.com/s/fwxp0ibys37cyjs/VID_20161019_171510.mp4?dl=0 [16:43] shakey cam! [16:43] well it's our freight one :) fits plenty of huge trucks [16:44] the cruise liners that pop by in summer can't come into the harbour [16:44] I think we're gonna need a bigger boat [16:45] haha, just reminded myself of samual l. jackson's role in "deep blue sea" where he got eated [16:46] gotta love those muvva flippin sharks in the muvva flippin plane^H^Hreasearch-station [16:46] research** [16:56] diddledan: it's leaving! [17:05] Running VM over the network share.... perhaps not the best idea I've had! :P [17:08] D: [17:08] i can't even stand booting one off an internal mechanical disk anymore [17:09] Really need time to sort out my old mac files and reformat the hfs+ partition. It's 70% of my drive space! [17:09] you take it out of a mac and throw it in a PC? [17:15] Haven't got a PC to throw it in, and not sure you can remove them from a MBP! :P [17:15] depends on the age ;) [17:15] OK. So skynet is coming... [17:16] still waiting on a client bringing back her allegedly-dead mid 2010 macbook pro from Spain, they left it in storage in their new apartment [17:16] Software for a keyboard requires an cloud account! :/ [17:18] XD [19:00] Kumbuka briefly explored the zookeeper area next door to his den, where he opened and drank five litres of undiluted blackcurrant squash. [19:00] must have had a belly ache after that [19:29] D: [19:43] Anyone know anything about LiDAR ? [19:57] lol [19:57] bit off topic [20:00] agents of shield time [20:00] I love agent simmons' and Daisy's relationship [20:01] I can't think of simmons' first name.. Jennifer? [20:01] i know nothing of that! [22:57] grr. I just washed my phone :-o [22:57] I think it's ruined [22:57] leave it to drain for now [22:57] * diddledan looks for some rice [22:59] kk, it's riced [23:01] diddledan: wat [23:01] that's a large object to leave in a pocket ;) [23:01] INORITE [23:01] I wasn't concentrating [23:02] I emptied all the other pockets, too [23:02] i hope it was an iPhone ;D [23:03] lol [23:03] shush! [23:03] I kinda need it for my 2FA though [23:03] mmm i had to transfer over my google authenticator accounts [23:06] diddledan, but you printed out backup codes and put them somewhere safe like your supposed to... right... ;-) [23:06] I should have, yes [23:07] just a case of finding where that safe place was. it's so safe I can't get to it [23:08] printed them out... took a photo (with phone) and then shredded the printout! :P [23:08] lol [23:10] i think the first time i changed device i didn't know how to switch safely, so it was ok with just using a text message code or something similar o0 [23:15] https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/10/19/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-14951-for-mobile-and-pc/ [23:16] BASH on Windows now allows you to start Windows exe's [23:16] execu-ception [23:32] diddledan, Look at Authy [23:33] So if you put your phone through the washing machine again, you can recover your 2FA onto a new device. Data stored is encrypted. [23:33] err o0 [23:47] :/ [23:47] Cable modem dropped [23:48] oop [23:48] Teething troubles with the new ISP [23:48] I just put the modem on the feed directly into the house and the modem came online [23:48] Turned out it was loose on the splitter [23:49] aah [23:49] it's nice when you can narrow intermittent problems down to a single cause [23:50] Would explain why it dropped sometimes with my old ISP. I never thought about checking the splitter before [23:50] :-) [23:50] btw, have you checked out Authy? [23:50] not yet, no [23:50] i figured cable is just like internal home wiring, gotta avoid splittin' the good stuff [23:51] diddledan: well damn it man, he wants results! :D [23:51] also pics of the washed phone plz [23:51] g'night guys \o [23:51] Splitters are a necessary evil in my apartment. [23:56] https://twitter.com/zannah/status/788826029288599552