[15:30] <cmaloney> morning
[16:03] <_stink_> not anymore!
[16:04] <cmaloney> Just-in-time-morning
[16:48] <dzho> heh
[16:48] <dzho> it's always morning somewhere
[16:48] <dzho> (less relevant for a geographically-specific channel, but w/e)
[18:54] <jrwren> anyone up for some bash help?  my curdir is a symlink to another dir. when I ls .. I see the contents of parent dir of the actual dir instead of the contents of parent of the symlink. why? and how to change this behavior?
[18:55] <rick_h_> jrwren: add a / to the dir?
[18:55] <jrwren> rick_h_: same behavior.
[18:55] <jrwren> maybe shells always did this and I just never realized.
[18:56] <cmaloney> jrwren: Yeah, it's a pita
[18:57] <cmaloney> But it's working as expected
[18:57] <jrwren> lol. I can't believe in 20yrs I never noticed.
[18:57] <cmaloney> UNIX is the onion that keeps on peeling
[18:58] <cmaloney> and sometimes drives the tears if you're not careful
[18:58] <jrwren> *grumble*
[18:58] <jrwren> I mean, I noticed yrs ago and thought it was a bash setting I had screwed up.
[18:58] <jrwren> hrm... shit, now I i'm remembering something about the UFS paper mentioning it.
[18:58] <jrwren> its in the UFS paper that first introduced symlinks, isn't it?
[18:59]  * jrwren dies.
[18:59] <jrwren> I think I'm just having a bad day.
[18:59] <jrwren> nevermind me.
[18:59] <cmaloney> Even better: pwd will blow your mind
[18:59] <jrwren> how so?
[18:59] <cmaloney> craig@lister:~/tmp$ pwd
[18:59] <cmaloney> /home/craig/tmp
[18:59] <jrwren> that doesn't blow my mind.
[18:59] <cmaloney> lrwxrwxrwx 1 craig craig 4 Nov  9  2012 tmp -> /tmp
[19:00] <cmaloney> no?
[19:00] <cmaloney> not even a little?
[19:00] <jrwren> nope
[19:00] <jrwren> sorry.
[19:00] <cmaloney> (not even a little kid's cap gun boom?")
[19:01] <cmaloney> Then why did the .. in cwd blow your mind? :)
[19:01] <jrwren> because I could have sworn it was configurable behavior.
[19:02] <cmaloney> ah
[19:02] <jrwren> but... maybe it is because I had previously run with set -P and so if I cd into a symlink dir it resolved the symlink and took me there.
[19:02] <cmaloney> That's possible
[19:02] <cmaloney> Or you were naughty and used hard links.
[19:03] <jrwren> can you hardlink a dir?
[19:03] <jrwren> hard link not allowed for directory
[19:03] <cmaloney>        -d, -F, --directory
[19:03] <cmaloney>               allow the superuser to attempt to hard link directories (note: will probably fail due to system restrictions, even
[19:04] <cmaloney>               for the superuser)
[19:04] <jrwren> ah, naughty
[19:04] <jrwren> Operation not permitted
[19:04] <jrwren> i guess ext4 doesn't support them.