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mparilloI always thought (for example) that rekonq loaded much faster than firefox. But of course FF was more full-featured even when rekonq was being maintained.00:23
momoeHi all02:12
momoesudo apt-get install plasma-widget-ktorrent apparently isn't working.02:12
momoeIs the ktorrent plasmoid no longer in the repos?02:12
momoe"Unable to locate package plasma-widget-ktorrent"02:14
momoe"stupidest" that's a word now?02:15
momoe^wrong chat there, sry02:17
valorie!info plasma-widget-ktorrent02:31
ubottuPackage plasma-widget-ktorrent does not exist in yakkety02:31
valorie!info plasma-widget-ktorrent trusty02:31
ubottuplasma-widget-ktorrent (source: ktorrent): KTorrent Plasma widget. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.1-2ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 49 kB, installed size 214 kB02:31
valorieI guess it used to be a thing02:31
valorieprobably not ported yet02:31
valoriemomoe: KDE devels always welcome help on porting stuff like that02:32
momoety valorie I will poke them02:32
valoriemomoe: they don't need poking, they need help02:43
chetvoice?04:23
chethello?04:23
spongeHello06:57
hateballhello sponge06:57
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SmurphyHmmm... KDEConnect needs to be fixed. Copying some movies onto my tablet for my trip -> Plasmashell goes to 100% CPU utilization...07:42
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hateballSmurphy: are you sure that is kdeconnect and not the notification plasmoid ?08:11
hateballSmurphy: as in, if you copy large/many files from/to other sources, do you not get the same behavior?08:11
hateballiirc this has been a problem with any animated plasmoid in the tray before08:11
jimtendo-X540SHi guys, I'm having a problem where my Asus X540S laptop crashes (freezes completely) shortly after I wake it from suspend (usually a minute or two). Checking /var/log/syslog, I can see that the last message written is a series of NULL bytes with no timestamp. Anyone bumped into this before or have any clues that might help be debug what's happening?08:12
Smurphyhateball: Copying one large file.08:13
jimtendo-X540SThe last entry in the syslog prior to this is related to NetworkManager: no ifupdown configuration found.08:13
SmurphyIt can indeed be the Notification plasmoid. It is the default one.08:13
SmurphyGuess they'll need to rework it.08:14
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steve-_-1hi all, is discovery a full replacement for muon?08:45
steve-_-1I updated to 16.10, muon is gone now. but discovery shows no updates while muon frequently had all kinds of updates08:45
steve-_-1could it be those are using different settings as to which components receive which updates?08:45
soeeand you have any updates available when you check in terminal ?08:47
hateballIsnt there a plasmoid that looks for updates? hmmm08:47
* hateball only: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade08:47
steve-_-1soee: how'd I check that?08:49
hateballsteve-_-1: the command I gave above ^08:53
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steve-_-1hateball: sry had an appointment. so I now see update info in the status bar. that is discover. that says "5 packages to update09:51
steve-_-1it is some system updates. so that seems to work. although discover says "0 B" for all updates09:52
steve-_-1so that would be a bug I guess?09:52
hateballsteve-_-1: Sadly I have no idea about the gui updater things, I only use a shell09:52
hateballfor that stuff, that is09:52
hateballsteve-_-1: could be a bug, sure09:53
hateball!bug09:53
ubottuIf you find a bug in Kubuntu, please follow the instructions at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting to report the issue to the developers.09:53
steve-_-1will do09:53
yossarianukI reported a bug yesterday - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371207 - however I found out the bug isn't going to ever be fixed in this version of Plasma, the 'solution' is to wait until Plasma 5.8 is out in the PPA10:07
ubottuKDE bug 371207 in common "Every login mangles by dual monitor config! Primary monitor unusable on login (black screen unable to right click on it until I disable/renable)" [Major,Resolved: duplicate]10:07
yossarianukwhich isn't great10:07
acheronukyossarianuk:  so this? https://phabricator.kde.org/D300610:34
yossarianukacheronuk: possibly,  other reports are https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37041110:42
ubottuKDE bug 370411 in Desktop Containment "Desktop preferences lost on login for dual screen" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate]10:42
yossarianukand10:42
yossarianukhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35622510:42
ubottuKDE bug 356225 in Multi-screen support "Panel moves to wrong screen when external monitor is connected" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]10:42
yossarianuki.e the issue's fixed in plasma 5.810:43
yossarianukon this report -> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371207 Sebastian Kügler said "This bug has been fixed in Plasma 5.8, please upgrade. :)"10:44
ubottuKDE bug 371207 in common "Every login mangles by dual monitor config! Primary monitor unusable on login (black screen unable to right click on it until I disable/renable)" [Major,Resolved: duplicate]10:44
yossarianukand also when I asked, will this bug be fixed in kubuntu 16.10, the response was  ->  "It won't unless that kubuntu upgrades to Plasma 5.8."10:44
acheronukyossarianuk: you said in the bug you had switched to Neon, so presumably it is fixed for you there?10:45
yossarianuknot ideal ... Its not the worst thing in the world, but its annoying that every boot up/login I need to fiddle with the screen settings (mostly the primary screen - i.e one with kmenu seems to be chosen at random..)10:46
acheronukyossarianuk: 16.10 will hopefully get a 5.8 backport, but 17.04 does not have it yet to backport from as we are waiting for merges etc10:46
yossarianukI already use neon @ home10:46
yossarianukthis was for my work laptop.10:46
yossarianukwhich I've used kubuntu (at its meant to be more stable)10:47
yossarianukacheronuk: thanks , I am aware there are backports coming at some point in the future.10:47
acheronukyossarianuk: I also wonder if a simple change if the fix can be backported to plasma 5.7.5. depends on whether any methods etc used in the fix existed in plasma 5.710:48
yossarianukand I really do appreciate all the work you kubuntu devs do - I just became really annoyed that there is a bug in 16.10 that wouldn't have been had kubuntu not had to stick to ubuntu release schedule..10:48
yossarianukacheronuk: thats what I hoped would happen - i.e backported fix10:49
yossarianukas otherwise 16.10 is working well, and I like having newer kernel (i have skylake)10:49
acheronukcould only happen under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates10:49
yossarianukI know, its a shame you have to stick to their schedule, rather than KDE's..10:50
acheronukyossarianuk: no promises, but I will at least ask the questions required to find out if a backported fix can be done on that.10:58
yossarianukacheronuk: thanks!10:59
yossarianukI have been a Kubuntu user for about 8 years btw (linux for about 13..)11:10
Smurphyyossarianuk: well. Then I must be very old ... Linux since end 1992... ;(11:17
HharlieCarperHello.  I have a problem with knotes on 16.04.11:31
HharlieCarperOn startup it may or may not find all of my notes.11:31
HharlieCarperSometimes it finds all of them, sometimes a few, sometimes none.11:32
HharlieCarperRepeatedly selecting/unselecting the folder and/or restarting the account will fix it eventually.11:33
HharlieCarperAnyone else see this kind of thing?11:33
spongehellow11:39
spongehello11:39
spongeIt seems that the task manager "maximum rows" isn't effective. Is there a way to force it or something? because my task bar can get very cluttered but nothing will happen. It'll just get more and more dense11:44
yossarianukSmurphy: I started using in 2002/2003... I only used Windows for about 5 years as before then I was using Amigas11:59
yossarianukThe fact I used to use Amigas is the reason I always hated Windows - I knew better...11:59
Smurphy:}12:48
zoraelWhat is the preferred way of setting arguments to pass to X when using sddm? I see no /etc/default/sddm (16.10)12:53
zoraelI need a -dpi 144 in there12:53
BluesKajHey folks12:53
soeezorael: https://github.com/sddm/sddm#custom-dpi12:54
zoraelsoee: no /etc/sddm.conf either :c12:55
soeeoh ? i have it here, what sddm version are you on ?12:57
zorael0.13.0-1ubuntu5 from universe12:57
soeeright, hmm wait a bit i asked sddm theme author if he knows if the config file is shipped with 0.13 or 0.14 only12:58
zoraelall right, thanks :312:59
soeezorael: but on github there is this commit https://github.com/sddm/sddm/commit/3441112487e477e146f1ffd532725edcd285eba6 added after 0.13 version13:00
soeeso it is probably available only for 0.1413:00
zoraelsoee: making a single change in the sddm kcm created /etc/sddm.conf, so at least I have the outlines now13:05
soee;-)13:06
linux_is anyone out there13:46
hateballSure13:47
hateball!help13:47
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:47
shayboxWould anyone know how to make all windows open on the main display, not whatever one my cursor is on...13:54
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hateballShayBox: suppose you could write a kwin rule for that13:54
hateballas long as it isnt chromium, chromium doesnt care about any silly rules13:55
ShayBoxlul13:55
ShayBoxidk anything about kwin rules...13:55
hateballShayBox: alt+f2 to open krunner, search for "rules" and there you will find13:56
hateballyou can set for instance so all apps regardless of class should open on monitor 1, or whatever you like13:56
hateballat a certain size, position, etc etc13:57
hateballmost apps respect this. not chromium tho. because reasons.13:57
* hateball curses a little13:57
ShayBoxrunning krunner doesn't open anything13:57
hateballShayBox: alt+f2 *is* krunner...13:58
hateball:)13:58
ShayBoxOhhh *fail*13:58
ShayBoxi use krunner as my search insted of a start menu13:58
hateballyes13:58
hateballone could probably click to find this, but searching is much nicer13:59
ShayBoxok, there are no rules, i make one. and what do i do... i'm stupid :(13:59
hateballShayBox: create a new one, call it "all windows" or whatever14:00
ShayBoxyup14:00
hateballShayBox: and then for window types, mark everything14:00
ShayBoxk14:00
hateballShayBox: then on size/position tab, tick "screen/monitor" and pick "apply from start" and then enter screen number for desired screen14:01
hateballand that'll be it14:01
ShayBoxScreen, Apply Now?14:02
hateballno, from start. as you want the rule to apply to newly created windows no?14:03
ShayBoxthere is no "from start"14:03
hateballack, the issues of translations14:03
ShayBoxlul14:03
* hateball switches to english14:03
* ShayBox suicides :(14:03
hateballapply initially14:04
ShayBoxk14:04
ShayBoxso it looks like this https://gyazo.com/70bccae7e764688b1babb7bd0c9418e614:04
jonny_hi together14:05
jonny_anybody here with knowledge of enabling japanese input on 16.04?14:06
ShayBoxuhh14:06
ShayBoxnope14:06
ShayBoxmy god it worked... thx hateball14:07
jonny_tried to install japanese language and messed up everything ^^ was ending up with half japanese and half swedish or something...14:07
ShayBoxuhh hateball seems like chromium follows it just fine LUL... maybe cause im on plasma 5.8.1 but still14:08
ShayBoxhateball, made a video of it <3 thx https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUWv6gkOxBY14:18
BluesKajBBL14:19
_thelion_Hi there. Kopete doesn't show any status symbol in my contacts (green for online, etc). It shows only the same little symbol fpr everone: a grey "square" (Kubuntu 16.10)14:20
_thelion_*for14:20
spongewhen is an update being pushed to ppa/backports? I guess it's not immediately upon release since they released plasma 5.8 but the ppa still has 5.616:01
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acheronuksponge: have to get it into the development version 17.04 before it can become a 'backport' to a stable release, and 17.04 archives are only just getting going.16:07
sponge17.04 means they'll be released on april 2017?16:08
SmurphyKind of, yes.16:08
spongeI see16:09
acheronukno, as they can be backport one in the development pre-release 17.04. so hopefully quite soon16:09
acheronuk*backported once16:09
acheronuksponge: so hopefully a 5.8 backport reasonably soon.16:11
spongealso I have another question which isn't directly related to this release of kubuntu. But still I think it's interesting. Can you explain what would be the difference between plasm 5.9, 5.10, 5.11 and the LTS? conceptually, not specifically, as I guess no one can know what features will be added.16:11
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nubb3Is plasma-discover-updater removed from 16.10? I upgraded and it was removed...20:30
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bl4ckbyt3hey, does anyone know if it's possible in k3b to fetch metadata from an aiff audio file?20:53
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driverwhat command in terminal to see what video card I have23:10

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