[00:23] <mparillo> I always thought (for example) that rekonq loaded much faster than firefox. But of course FF was more full-featured even when rekonq was being maintained.
[02:12] <momoe> Hi all
[02:12] <momoe> sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-ktorrent apparently isn't working.
[02:12] <momoe> Is the ktorrent plasmoid no longer in the repos?
[02:14] <momoe> "Unable to locate package plasma-widget-ktorrent"
[02:15] <momoe> "stupidest" that's a word now?
[02:17] <momoe> ^wrong chat there, sry
[02:31] <valorie> !info plasma-widget-ktorrent
[02:31] <ubottu> Package plasma-widget-ktorrent does not exist in yakkety
[02:31] <valorie> !info plasma-widget-ktorrent trusty
[02:31] <ubottu> plasma-widget-ktorrent (source: ktorrent): KTorrent Plasma widget. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.1-2ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 49 kB, installed size 214 kB
[02:31] <valorie> I guess it used to be a thing
[02:31] <valorie> probably not ported yet
[02:32] <valorie> momoe: KDE devels always welcome help on porting stuff like that
[02:32] <momoe> ty valorie I will poke them
[02:43] <valorie> momoe: they don't need poking, they need help
[04:23] <chet> voice?
[04:23] <chet> hello?
[06:57] <sponge> Hello
[06:57] <hateball> hello sponge
[07:38] <kdnejdje> ---- J-O-I-N #wikipedia-es ----
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[07:39] <AIvaroMolina> ---- J-O-I-N #wikipedia-es ----
[07:40] <AIvaroMolina> ---- J-O-I-N #wikipedia-es ----
[07:42] <Smurphy> Hmmm... KDEConnect needs to be fixed. Copying some movies onto my tablet for my trip -> Plasmashell goes to 100% CPU utilization...
[08:00] <AIvaroMolina> ---- J-O-I-N #wikimedia-ayuda ----
[08:00] <AIvaroMolina> ---- J-O-I-N #wikimedia-ayuda ----
[08:00] <AIvaroMolina> ---- J-O-I-N #wikimedia-ayuda ----
[08:06] <AIvaroMolina> ---- J-O-I-N #wikimedia-ayuda ----
[08:06] <AIvaroMolina> ---- J-O-I-N #wikimedia-ayuda ----
[08:06] <AIvaroMolina> ---- J-O-I-N #wikimedia-ayuda ----
[08:11] <hateball> Smurphy: are you sure that is kdeconnect and not the notification plasmoid ?
[08:11] <hateball> Smurphy: as in, if you copy large/many files from/to other sources, do you not get the same behavior?
[08:11] <hateball> iirc this has been a problem with any animated plasmoid in the tray before
[08:12] <jimtendo-X540S> Hi guys, I'm having a problem where my Asus X540S laptop crashes (freezes completely) shortly after I wake it from suspend (usually a minute or two). Checking /var/log/syslog, I can see that the last message written is a series of NULL bytes with no timestamp. Anyone bumped into this before or have any clues that might help be debug what's happening?
[08:13] <Smurphy> hateball: Copying one large file.
[08:13] <jimtendo-X540S> The last entry in the syslog prior to this is related to NetworkManager: no ifupdown configuration found.
[08:13] <Smurphy> It can indeed be the Notification plasmoid. It is the default one.
[08:14] <Smurphy> Guess they'll need to rework it.
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[08:45] <steve-_-1> hi all, is discovery a full replacement for muon?
[08:45] <steve-_-1> I updated to 16.10, muon is gone now. but discovery shows no updates while muon frequently had all kinds of updates
[08:45] <steve-_-1> could it be those are using different settings as to which components receive which updates?
[08:47] <soee> and you have any updates available when you check in terminal ?
[08:47] <hateball> Isnt there a plasmoid that looks for updates? hmmm
[08:47]  * hateball only: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[08:49] <steve-_-1> soee: how'd I check that?
[08:53] <hateball> steve-_-1: the command I gave above ^
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[09:51] <steve-_-1> hateball: sry had an appointment. so I now see update info in the status bar. that is discover. that says "5 packages to update
[09:52] <steve-_-1> it is some system updates. so that seems to work. although discover says "0 B" for all updates
[09:52] <steve-_-1> so that would be a bug I guess?
[09:52] <hateball> steve-_-1: Sadly I have no idea about the gui updater things, I only use a shell
[09:52] <hateball> for that stuff, that is
[09:53] <hateball> steve-_-1: could be a bug, sure
[09:53] <hateball> !bug
[09:53] <ubottu> If you find a bug in Kubuntu, please follow the instructions at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting to report the issue to the developers.
[09:53] <steve-_-1> will do
[10:07] <yossarianuk> I reported a bug yesterday - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371207 - however I found out the bug isn't going to ever be fixed in this version of Plasma, the 'solution' is to wait until Plasma 5.8 is out in the PPA
[10:07] <ubottu> KDE bug 371207 in common "Every login mangles by dual monitor config! Primary monitor unusable on login (black screen unable to right click on it until I disable/renable)" [Major,Resolved: duplicate]
[10:07] <yossarianuk> which isn't great
[10:34] <acheronuk> yossarianuk:  so this? https://phabricator.kde.org/D3006
[10:42] <yossarianuk> acheronuk: possibly,  other reports are https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370411
[10:42] <ubottu> KDE bug 370411 in Desktop Containment "Desktop preferences lost on login for dual screen" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate]
[10:42] <yossarianuk> and
[10:42] <yossarianuk> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356225
[10:42] <ubottu> KDE bug 356225 in Multi-screen support "Panel moves to wrong screen when external monitor is connected" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[10:43] <yossarianuk> i.e the issue's fixed in plasma 5.8
[10:44] <yossarianuk> on this report -> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371207 Sebastian Kügler said "This bug has been fixed in Plasma 5.8, please upgrade. :)"
[10:44] <ubottu> KDE bug 371207 in common "Every login mangles by dual monitor config! Primary monitor unusable on login (black screen unable to right click on it until I disable/renable)" [Major,Resolved: duplicate]
[10:44] <yossarianuk> and also when I asked, will this bug be fixed in kubuntu 16.10, the response was  ->  "It won't unless that kubuntu upgrades to Plasma 5.8."
[10:45] <acheronuk> yossarianuk: you said in the bug you had switched to Neon, so presumably it is fixed for you there?
[10:46] <yossarianuk> not ideal ... Its not the worst thing in the world, but its annoying that every boot up/login I need to fiddle with the screen settings (mostly the primary screen - i.e one with kmenu seems to be chosen at random..)
[10:46] <acheronuk> yossarianuk: 16.10 will hopefully get a 5.8 backport, but 17.04 does not have it yet to backport from as we are waiting for merges etc
[10:46] <yossarianuk> I already use neon @ home
[10:46] <yossarianuk> this was for my work laptop.
[10:47] <yossarianuk> which I've used kubuntu (at its meant to be more stable)
[10:47] <yossarianuk> acheronuk: thanks , I am aware there are backports coming at some point in the future.
[10:48] <acheronuk> yossarianuk: I also wonder if a simple change if the fix can be backported to plasma 5.7.5. depends on whether any methods etc used in the fix existed in plasma 5.7
[10:48] <yossarianuk> and I really do appreciate all the work you kubuntu devs do - I just became really annoyed that there is a bug in 16.10 that wouldn't have been had kubuntu not had to stick to ubuntu release schedule..
[10:49] <yossarianuk> acheronuk: thats what I hoped would happen - i.e backported fix
[10:49] <yossarianuk> as otherwise 16.10 is working well, and I like having newer kernel (i have skylake)
[10:49] <acheronuk> could only happen under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[10:50] <yossarianuk> I know, its a shame you have to stick to their schedule, rather than KDE's..
[10:58] <acheronuk> yossarianuk: no promises, but I will at least ask the questions required to find out if a backported fix can be done on that.
[10:59] <yossarianuk> acheronuk: thanks!
[11:10] <yossarianuk> I have been a Kubuntu user for about 8 years btw (linux for about 13..)
[11:17] <Smurphy> yossarianuk: well. Then I must be very old ... Linux since end 1992... ;(
[11:31] <HharlieCarper> Hello.  I have a problem with knotes on 16.04.
[11:31] <HharlieCarper> On startup it may or may not find all of my notes.
[11:32] <HharlieCarper> Sometimes it finds all of them, sometimes a few, sometimes none.
[11:33] <HharlieCarper> Repeatedly selecting/unselecting the folder and/or restarting the account will fix it eventually.
[11:33] <HharlieCarper> Anyone else see this kind of thing?
[11:39] <sponge> hellow
[11:39] <sponge> hello
[11:44] <sponge> It seems that the task manager "maximum rows" isn't effective. Is there a way to force it or something? because my task bar can get very cluttered but nothing will happen. It'll just get more and more dense
[11:59] <yossarianuk> Smurphy: I started using in 2002/2003... I only used Windows for about 5 years as before then I was using Amigas
[11:59] <yossarianuk> The fact I used to use Amigas is the reason I always hated Windows - I knew better...
[12:48] <Smurphy> :}
[12:53] <zorael> What is the preferred way of setting arguments to pass to X when using sddm? I see no /etc/default/sddm (16.10)
[12:53] <zorael> I need a -dpi 144 in there
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:54] <soee> zorael: https://github.com/sddm/sddm#custom-dpi
[12:55] <zorael> soee: no /etc/sddm.conf either :c
[12:57] <soee> oh ? i have it here, what sddm version are you on ?
[12:57] <zorael> 0.13.0-1ubuntu5 from universe
[12:58] <soee> right, hmm wait a bit i asked sddm theme author if he knows if the config file is shipped with 0.13 or 0.14 only
[12:59] <zorael> all right, thanks :3
[13:00] <soee> zorael: but on github there is this commit https://github.com/sddm/sddm/commit/3441112487e477e146f1ffd532725edcd285eba6 added after 0.13 version
[13:00] <soee> so it is probably available only for 0.14
[13:05] <zorael> soee: making a single change in the sddm kcm created /etc/sddm.conf, so at least I have the outlines now
[13:06] <soee> ;-)
[13:46] <linux_> is anyone out there
[13:47] <hateball> Sure
[13:47] <hateball> !help
[13:47] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[13:54] <shaybox> Would anyone know how to make all windows open on the main display, not whatever one my cursor is on...
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[13:54] <hateball> ShayBox: suppose you could write a kwin rule for that
[13:55] <hateball> as long as it isnt chromium, chromium doesnt care about any silly rules
[13:55] <ShayBox> lul
[13:55] <ShayBox> idk anything about kwin rules...
[13:56] <hateball> ShayBox: alt+f2 to open krunner, search for "rules" and there you will find
[13:56] <hateball> you can set for instance so all apps regardless of class should open on monitor 1, or whatever you like
[13:57] <hateball> at a certain size, position, etc etc
[13:57] <hateball> most apps respect this. not chromium tho. because reasons.
[13:57]  * hateball curses a little
[13:57] <ShayBox> running krunner doesn't open anything
[13:58] <hateball> ShayBox: alt+f2 *is* krunner...
[13:58] <hateball> :)
[13:58] <ShayBox> Ohhh *fail*
[13:58] <ShayBox> i use krunner as my search insted of a start menu
[13:58] <hateball> yes
[13:59] <hateball> one could probably click to find this, but searching is much nicer
[13:59] <ShayBox> ok, there are no rules, i make one. and what do i do... i'm stupid :(
[14:00] <hateball> ShayBox: create a new one, call it "all windows" or whatever
[14:00] <ShayBox> yup
[14:00] <hateball> ShayBox: and then for window types, mark everything
[14:00] <ShayBox> k
[14:01] <hateball> ShayBox: then on size/position tab, tick "screen/monitor" and pick "apply from start" and then enter screen number for desired screen
[14:01] <hateball> and that'll be it
[14:02] <ShayBox> Screen, Apply Now?
[14:03] <hateball> no, from start. as you want the rule to apply to newly created windows no?
[14:03] <ShayBox> there is no "from start"
[14:03] <hateball> ack, the issues of translations
[14:03] <ShayBox> lul
[14:03]  * hateball switches to english
[14:03]  * ShayBox suicides :(
[14:04] <hateball> apply initially
[14:04] <ShayBox> k
[14:04] <ShayBox> so it looks like this https://gyazo.com/70bccae7e764688b1babb7bd0c9418e6
[14:05] <jonny_> hi together
[14:06] <jonny_> anybody here with knowledge of enabling japanese input on 16.04?
[14:06] <ShayBox> uhh
[14:06] <ShayBox> nope
[14:07] <ShayBox> my god it worked... thx hateball
[14:07] <jonny_> tried to install japanese language and messed up everything ^^ was ending up with half japanese and half swedish or something...
[14:08] <ShayBox> uhh hateball seems like chromium follows it just fine LUL... maybe cause im on plasma 5.8.1 but still
[14:18] <ShayBox> hateball, made a video of it <3 thx https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUWv6gkOxBY
[14:19] <BluesKaj> BBL
[14:20] <_thelion_> Hi there. Kopete doesn't show any status symbol in my contacts (green for online, etc). It shows only the same little symbol fpr everone: a grey "square" (Kubuntu 16.10)
[14:20] <_thelion_> *for
[16:01] <sponge> when is an update being pushed to ppa/backports? I guess it's not immediately upon release since they released plasma 5.8 but the ppa still has 5.6
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[16:07] <acheronuk> sponge: have to get it into the development version 17.04 before it can become a 'backport' to a stable release, and 17.04 archives are only just getting going.
[16:08] <sponge> 17.04 means they'll be released on april 2017?
[16:08] <Smurphy> Kind of, yes.
[16:09] <sponge> I see
[16:09] <acheronuk> no, as they can be backport one in the development pre-release 17.04. so hopefully quite soon
[16:09] <acheronuk> *backported once
[16:11] <acheronuk> sponge: so hopefully a 5.8 backport reasonably soon.
[16:11] <sponge> also I have another question which isn't directly related to this release of kubuntu. But still I think it's interesting. Can you explain what would be the difference between plasm 5.9, 5.10, 5.11 and the LTS? conceptually, not specifically, as I guess no one can know what features will be added.
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[20:30] <nubb3> Is plasma-discover-updater removed from 16.10? I upgraded and it was removed...
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[20:53] <bl4ckbyt3> hey, does anyone know if it's possible in k3b to fetch metadata from an aiff audio file?
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[23:10] <driver> what command in terminal to see what video card I have