[00:23] <mparillo> I always thought (for example) that rekonq loaded much faster than firefox. But of course FF was more full-featured even when rekonq was being maintained.
[02:12] <momoe> Hi all
[02:12] <momoe> sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-ktorrent apparently isn't working.
[02:12] <momoe> Is the ktorrent plasmoid no longer in the repos?
[02:14] <momoe> "Unable to locate package plasma-widget-ktorrent"
[02:15] <momoe> "stupidest" that's a word now?
[02:17] <momoe> ^wrong chat there, sry
[02:31] <valorie> !info plasma-widget-ktorrent
[02:31] <valorie> !info plasma-widget-ktorrent trusty
[02:31] <valorie> I guess it used to be a thing
[02:31] <valorie> probably not ported yet
[02:32] <valorie> momoe: KDE devels always welcome help on porting stuff like that
[02:32] <momoe> ty valorie I will poke them
[02:43] <valorie> momoe: they don't need poking, they need help
[04:23] <chet> voice?
[04:23] <chet> hello?
[06:57] <sponge> Hello
[06:57] <hateball> hello sponge
[07:38] <kdnejdje> ---- J-O-I-N #wikipedia-es ----
[07:39] <AIvaroMolina> ---- J-O-I-N #wikipedia-es ----
[07:40] <AIvaroMolina> ---- J-O-I-N #wikipedia-es ----
[07:42] <Smurphy> Hmmm... KDEConnect needs to be fixed. Copying some movies onto my tablet for my trip -> Plasmashell goes to 100% CPU utilization...
[08:00] <AIvaroMolina> ---- J-O-I-N #wikimedia-ayuda ----
[08:00] <AIvaroMolina> ---- J-O-I-N #wikimedia-ayuda ----
[08:00] <AIvaroMolina> ---- J-O-I-N #wikimedia-ayuda ----
[08:06] <AIvaroMolina> ---- J-O-I-N #wikimedia-ayuda ----
[08:06] <AIvaroMolina> ---- J-O-I-N #wikimedia-ayuda ----
[08:06] <AIvaroMolina> ---- J-O-I-N #wikimedia-ayuda ----
[08:11] <hateball> Smurphy: are you sure that is kdeconnect and not the notification plasmoid ?
[08:11] <hateball> Smurphy: as in, if you copy large/many files from/to other sources, do you not get the same behavior?
[08:11] <hateball> iirc this has been a problem with any animated plasmoid in the tray before
[08:12] <jimtendo-X540S> Hi guys, I'm having a problem where my Asus X540S laptop crashes (freezes completely) shortly after I wake it from suspend (usually a minute or two). Checking /var/log/syslog, I can see that the last message written is a series of NULL bytes with no timestamp. Anyone bumped into this before or have any clues that might help be debug what's happening?
[08:13] <Smurphy> hateball: Copying one large file.
[08:13] <jimtendo-X540S> The last entry in the syslog prior to this is related to NetworkManager: no ifupdown configuration found.
[08:13] <Smurphy> It can indeed be the Notification plasmoid. It is the default one.
[08:14] <Smurphy> Guess they'll need to rework it.
[08:45] <steve-_-1> hi all, is discovery a full replacement for muon?
[08:45] <steve-_-1> I updated to 16.10, muon is gone now. but discovery shows no updates while muon frequently had all kinds of updates
[08:45] <steve-_-1> could it be those are using different settings as to which components receive which updates?
[08:47] <soee> and you have any updates available when you check in terminal ?
[08:47] <hateball> Isnt there a plasmoid that looks for updates? hmmm
[08:47]  * hateball only: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[08:49] <steve-_-1> soee: how'd I check that?
[08:53] <hateball> steve-_-1: the command I gave above ^
[09:51] <steve-_-1> hateball: sry had an appointment. so I now see update info in the status bar. that is discover. that says "5 packages to update
[09:52] <steve-_-1> it is some system updates. so that seems to work. although discover says "0 B" for all updates
[09:52] <steve-_-1> so that would be a bug I guess?
[09:52] <hateball> steve-_-1: Sadly I have no idea about the gui updater things, I only use a shell
[09:52] <hateball> for that stuff, that is
[09:53] <hateball> steve-_-1: could be a bug, sure
[09:53] <hateball> !bug
[09:53] <steve-_-1> will do
[10:07] <yossarianuk> I reported a bug yesterday - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371207 - however I found out the bug isn't going to ever be fixed in this version of Plasma, the 'solution' is to wait until Plasma 5.8 is out in the PPA
[10:07] <yossarianuk> which isn't great
[10:34] <acheronuk> yossarianuk:  so this? https://phabricator.kde.org/D3006
[10:42] <yossarianuk> acheronuk: possibly,  other reports are https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370411
[10:42] <yossarianuk> and
[10:42] <yossarianuk> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356225
[10:43] <yossarianuk> i.e the issue's fixed in plasma 5.8
[10:44] <yossarianuk> on this report -> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371207 Sebastian Kügler said "This bug has been fixed in Plasma 5.8, please upgrade. :)"
[10:44] <yossarianuk> and also when I asked, will this bug be fixed in kubuntu 16.10, the response was  ->  "It won't unless that kubuntu upgrades to Plasma 5.8."
[10:45] <acheronuk> yossarianuk: you said in the bug you had switched to Neon, so presumably it is fixed for you there?
[10:46] <yossarianuk> not ideal ... Its not the worst thing in the world, but its annoying that every boot up/login I need to fiddle with the screen settings (mostly the primary screen - i.e one with kmenu seems to be chosen at random..)
[10:46] <acheronuk> yossarianuk: 16.10 will hopefully get a 5.8 backport, but 17.04 does not have it yet to backport from as we are waiting for merges etc
[10:46] <yossarianuk> I already use neon @ home
[10:46] <yossarianuk> this was for my work laptop.
[10:47] <yossarianuk> which I've used kubuntu (at its meant to be more stable)
[10:47] <yossarianuk> acheronuk: thanks , I am aware there are backports coming at some point in the future.
[10:48] <acheronuk> yossarianuk: I also wonder if a simple change if the fix can be backported to plasma 5.7.5. depends on whether any methods etc used in the fix existed in plasma 5.7
[10:48] <yossarianuk> and I really do appreciate all the work you kubuntu devs do - I just became really annoyed that there is a bug in 16.10 that wouldn't have been had kubuntu not had to stick to ubuntu release schedule..
[10:49] <yossarianuk> acheronuk: thats what I hoped would happen - i.e backported fix
[10:49] <yossarianuk> as otherwise 16.10 is working well, and I like having newer kernel (i have skylake)
[10:49] <acheronuk> could only happen under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[10:50] <yossarianuk> I know, its a shame you have to stick to their schedule, rather than KDE's..
[10:58] <acheronuk> yossarianuk: no promises, but I will at least ask the questions required to find out if a backported fix can be done on that.
[10:59] <yossarianuk> acheronuk: thanks!
[11:10] <yossarianuk> I have been a Kubuntu user for about 8 years btw (linux for about 13..)
[11:17] <Smurphy> yossarianuk: well. Then I must be very old ... Linux since end 1992... ;(
[11:31] <HharlieCarper> Hello.  I have a problem with knotes on 16.04.
[11:31] <HharlieCarper> On startup it may or may not find all of my notes.
[11:32] <HharlieCarper> Sometimes it finds all of them, sometimes a few, sometimes none.
[11:33] <HharlieCarper> Repeatedly selecting/unselecting the folder and/or restarting the account will fix it eventually.
[11:33] <HharlieCarper> Anyone else see this kind of thing?
[11:39] <sponge> hellow
[11:39] <sponge> hello
[11:44] <sponge> It seems that the task manager "maximum rows" isn't effective. Is there a way to force it or something? because my task bar can get very cluttered but nothing will happen. It'll just get more and more dense
[11:59] <yossarianuk> Smurphy: I started using in 2002/2003... I only used Windows for about 5 years as before then I was using Amigas
[11:59] <yossarianuk> The fact I used to use Amigas is the reason I always hated Windows - I knew better...
[12:48] <Smurphy> :}
[12:53] <zorael> What is the preferred way of setting arguments to pass to X when using sddm? I see no /etc/default/sddm (16.10)
[12:53] <zorael> I need a -dpi 144 in there
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:54] <soee> zorael: https://github.com/sddm/sddm#custom-dpi
[12:55] <zorael> soee: no /etc/sddm.conf either :c
[12:57] <soee> oh ? i have it here, what sddm version are you on ?
[12:57] <zorael> 0.13.0-1ubuntu5 from universe
[12:58] <soee> right, hmm wait a bit i asked sddm theme author if he knows if the config file is shipped with 0.13 or 0.14 only
[12:59] <zorael> all right, thanks :3
[13:00] <soee> zorael: but on github there is this commit https://github.com/sddm/sddm/commit/3441112487e477e146f1ffd532725edcd285eba6 added after 0.13 version
[13:00] <soee> so it is probably available only for 0.14
[13:05] <zorael> soee: making a single change in the sddm kcm created /etc/sddm.conf, so at least I have the outlines now
[13:06] <soee> ;-)
[13:46] <linux_> is anyone out there
[13:47] <hateball> Sure
[13:47] <hateball> !help
[13:54] <shaybox> Would anyone know how to make all windows open on the main display, not whatever one my cursor is on...
[13:54] <hateball> ShayBox: suppose you could write a kwin rule for that
[13:55] <hateball> as long as it isnt chromium, chromium doesnt care about any silly rules
[13:55] <ShayBox> lul
[13:55] <ShayBox> idk anything about kwin rules...
[13:56] <hateball> ShayBox: alt+f2 to open krunner, search for "rules" and there you will find
[13:56] <hateball> you can set for instance so all apps regardless of class should open on monitor 1, or whatever you like
[13:57] <hateball> at a certain size, position, etc etc
[13:57] <hateball> most apps respect this. not chromium tho. because reasons.
[13:57]  * hateball curses a little
[13:57] <ShayBox> running krunner doesn't open anything
[13:58] <hateball> ShayBox: alt+f2 *is* krunner...
[13:58] <hateball> :)
[13:58] <ShayBox> Ohhh *fail*
[13:58] <ShayBox> i use krunner as my search insted of a start menu
[13:58] <hateball> yes
[13:59] <hateball> one could probably click to find this, but searching is much nicer
[13:59] <ShayBox> ok, there are no rules, i make one. and what do i do... i'm stupid :(
[14:00] <hateball> ShayBox: create a new one, call it "all windows" or whatever
[14:00] <ShayBox> yup
[14:00] <hateball> ShayBox: and then for window types, mark everything
[14:00] <ShayBox> k
[14:01] <hateball> ShayBox: then on size/position tab, tick "screen/monitor" and pick "apply from start" and then enter screen number for desired screen
[14:01] <hateball> and that'll be it
[14:02] <ShayBox> Screen, Apply Now?
[14:03] <hateball> no, from start. as you want the rule to apply to newly created windows no?
[14:03] <ShayBox> there is no "from start"
[14:03] <hateball> ack, the issues of translations
[14:03] <ShayBox> lul
[14:03]  * hateball switches to english
[14:03]  * ShayBox suicides :(
[14:04] <hateball> apply initially
[14:04] <ShayBox> k
[14:04] <ShayBox> so it looks like this https://gyazo.com/70bccae7e764688b1babb7bd0c9418e6
[14:05] <jonny_> hi together
[14:06] <jonny_> anybody here with knowledge of enabling japanese input on 16.04?
[14:06] <ShayBox> uhh
[14:06] <ShayBox> nope
[14:07] <ShayBox> my god it worked... thx hateball
[14:07] <jonny_> tried to install japanese language and messed up everything ^^ was ending up with half japanese and half swedish or something...
[14:08] <ShayBox> uhh hateball seems like chromium follows it just fine LUL... maybe cause im on plasma 5.8.1 but still
[14:18] <ShayBox> hateball, made a video of it <3 thx https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUWv6gkOxBY
[14:19] <BluesKaj> BBL
[14:20] <_thelion_> Hi there. Kopete doesn't show any status symbol in my contacts (green for online, etc). It shows only the same little symbol fpr everone: a grey "square" (Kubuntu 16.10)
[14:20] <_thelion_> *for
[16:01] <sponge> when is an update being pushed to ppa/backports? I guess it's not immediately upon release since they released plasma 5.8 but the ppa still has 5.6
[16:07] <acheronuk> sponge: have to get it into the development version 17.04 before it can become a 'backport' to a stable release, and 17.04 archives are only just getting going.
[16:08] <sponge> 17.04 means they'll be released on april 2017?
[16:08] <Smurphy> Kind of, yes.
[16:09] <sponge> I see
[16:09] <acheronuk> no, as they can be backport one in the development pre-release 17.04. so hopefully quite soon
[16:09] <acheronuk> *backported once
[16:11] <acheronuk> sponge: so hopefully a 5.8 backport reasonably soon.
[16:11] <sponge> also I have another question which isn't directly related to this release of kubuntu. But still I think it's interesting. Can you explain what would be the difference between plasm 5.9, 5.10, 5.11 and the LTS? conceptually, not specifically, as I guess no one can know what features will be added.
[20:30] <nubb3> Is plasma-discover-updater removed from 16.10? I upgraded and it was removed...
[20:53] <bl4ckbyt3> hey, does anyone know if it's possible in k3b to fetch metadata from an aiff audio file?
[23:10] <driver> what command in terminal to see what video card I have