[00:14] <b0hr> hi guys someone has experience running photoshop cs6 over lubuntu?
[04:53] <xsmltx> Hi, tell me please which is the best way to add fluxbox to automatically start at boot. Thank you.
[05:36] <FireStriker> hello i just installed Lubuntu last night and today it has poped up with an update were its saying Ubuntu not Lubuntu, is that normal? i know Ubuntu and Lubuntu are practicaly the same
[06:05] <FireStriker> Help i just installed an update and was restarting it it has rebooted and i have chosen to boot into Lubuntu but its holding at a black screen, its been holding for a while now what do i do?
[08:50] <xsmltx> Hi, anyone please, how to autostart - autologin fluxbox at the boot please? Thank you.
[15:09] <yeh_0x0h> Hello.
[15:09] <yeh_0x0h> Does Lubuntu contain propietary blobs/software by default?
[15:09] <yeh_0x0h> Is it as bad as Ubuntu when it comes down to propietary v.s. non-propietary sofware?
[15:10] <yeh_0x0h> *A neckbeard-ed bloke wonders.*
[15:11] <LuMint> yeh_0x0h: how is Ubuntu bad in this regard?
[15:11] <LuMint> yeh_0x0h: iirc they have a script for installing everything proprietary a regular user can need.
[15:12] <LuMint> with GUI, too
[15:16] <yeh_0x0h> @LuMint well the fact that Ubuntu (allegedly) contains propietary software by default, and a version of the linux kernel with binary blobs.
[15:18] <LuMint> afaic, it doesn't because legal issues.
[15:18] <LuMint> mint used to, but now it doesn't, too
[15:19] <LuMint> but don't get my word for it, i'm not so sure, there may be something I overlooked.
[15:20] <yeh_0x0h> @LuMint Sorry disconnected.
[15:20] <LuMint> yeh_0x0h: besides, how is it a bad practice? I'd love to have a distro with nvidia drivers by default, because nouveau is painful to use on desktop
[15:21] <LuMint> no hardware acceleration, CPU processes GUI rendering, occasional weird freezes
[15:21] <LuMint> yeh_0x0h: do I need to copy what I've written after that?
 afaic, it doesn't because legal issues.
 mint used to, but now it doesn't, too
 but don't get my word for it, i'm not so sure, there may be something I overlooked
[15:21] <yeh_0x0h> Well Nvidia drivers is a different matter. There's no alternative to get your GPU to work if it's NVIDIA.
[15:21] <yeh_0x0h> And thank you for copying what I missed.
[15:22] <LuMint> iirc they have a script for installing everything proprietary a regular user can need
[15:22] <LuMint> anyway, if you go for netinstall/minimal, you can be sure, I think.
[15:23] <yeh_0x0h> The reason I asked about this issue with Lubuntn (and Ubuntu) is because on the other hand you see a distro based on Ubuntu with no propietary parts or binary blobs whatsoever.
[15:23] <yeh_0x0h> >Trisquel, a GNU/Linux distribution based on Ubuntu that's oriented toward small enterprises, domestic users and educational centers.
[15:23] <swift110> hey ALL
[15:23] <LuMint> hi
[15:23] <yeh_0x0h> Hello swift.
[15:23] <LuMint> yeh_0x0h: idk really, perhaps swift110 can answer your question better.
[15:24] <yeh_0x0h> Thank you anyways for the info you provided, mint.
[15:24] <LuMint> yw
[15:27] <LuMint> >Mint still includes proprietary software (like Flash) and codecs out-of-the-box, but this has become less of a differentiating feature. The latest versions of Ubuntu allow you to enable a single check box during installation and Ubuntu will automatically grab the proprietary software and codecs you need, without any additional work required
[15:27] <LuMint> as of now Mint doesn't include it either. They provide a GUI script to download it upon installation.
[15:27] <yeh_0x0h> Interesting indeed. I noticed this before when I installed Ubuntu a while back.
[15:36] <swift110> hey LuMint how ar eyou
[15:36] <swift110> hey yeh_0x0h
[15:37] <LuMint> i'm fine, thanks :) and you?
[15:37] <yeh_0x0h> Not so bad. What about you?
[15:38] <swift110> im good LuMint and yeh_0x0h
[15:39] <yeh_0x0h> @LuMint too bad Trisquel is probably going to take some time. Worst case scenario, till april of 2017 considering their past releases.
[15:39] <yeh_0x0h> It's based on Linux-Libre kernel and is entirely open source.
[15:40] <yeh_0x0h> I'm just bringing this as an example to project on Lubuntu. Literally looked up "Lubuntu free meter" hoping there would be some statistics or meter about how open source the distro is lol.
[15:41] <swift110> hmm
[15:42] <yeh_0x0h> swift110, are you a bot? :P
[15:43] <yeh_0x0h> Not trying to be offesnsive if you were a human.
[15:44] <swift110> wow
[15:44] <swift110> I am definately a human
[15:44] <yeh_0x0h> Sorry 'bout that. xD
[15:48] <yeh_0x0h> On a scale from 1 to America. How free is Lunbuntu? In terms of containing pre-installed propietary software. Binary blobs in the disro/kernel.
[15:49] <yeh_0x0h> Asking again so new users would hopefully have something.
[15:49] <swift110> lol
[15:49] <yeh_0x0h> heh.
[15:49] <yeh_0x0h> Lubuntu*
[15:50] <yeh_0x0h> That's a candidate pick-up line on tinder.
[15:50] <yeh_0x0h> licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License.
[15:51] <LuMint> yeh_0x0h: why it it bad again?
[15:51] <LuMint> yeh_0x0h: yet another fork of a fork?
[15:51] <yeh_0x0h> What's bad? Lubuntu?
[15:51] <yeh_0x0h> I'm not saying it's bad.
[15:51] <LuMint> yeh_0x0h: no, Trisquel. Lubuntu isn't really a fork
[15:52] <yeh_0x0h> Ah. Well Trisquel is a based of Ubuntu and Debian. But with Linux-Libre Kernel (no binary blobs) and stripped from Ubuntu's propietary software.
[15:53] <LuMint> yet another Frankendebian? I thought LMDE was bad enough not to repeat it.
[15:53] <yeh_0x0h> lol
[15:53] <LuMint> >2017 wouldn't think blacklisting packages would take em that long
[15:55] <yeh_0x0h> Talk about a Mint expert.
[15:55] <yeh_0x0h> Had to actually look up what LMDE is. Thought it was a WE.
[15:55] <yeh_0x0h> DE* desktop env
[15:55] <LuMint> WE?
[15:57] <LuMint> yeh_0x0h: i don't understand the hopes you have for Trisquel
[15:57] <swift110> lol
[15:57] <yeh_0x0h> xD
[15:57] <yeh_0x0h> I'm not a Trisquel Shill lol
[15:57] <LuMint> i'm not saying you are
[15:57] <yeh_0x0h> I just used it as an example to convey my concerns.
[16:06] <swift110> i see
[16:57] <LuMint> yeh_0x0h: what do you want from a linux distro?
[16:58] <LuMint> yeh_0x0h: actually, I think I rememberd something. IIRC RMS uses Trisquel "friends installed for me"
[16:58] <yeh_0x0h> That's a valid question. Well a programming environment. And I like CLI.
[16:59] <yeh_0x0h> CLI is better for a power user than GUI.
[17:00] <wxl> this might be non-support related? i.e. better for #lubuntu-offtopic?
[17:19] <pabloevia> Hi there.  I am a total beginner with Linux and Ubuntu in general.  I have installed Lubuntu in my old netbook Toshiba with Atom processor and 1GB of RAM.  Everything is running smoothly, but for some reason when I close the lid of the computer (so the system sleeps), afterwards the system freezes and I have to reboot in order to work again.  Could
[17:19] <pabloevia>  you please provide me some assistance in this issue?
[17:31] <joel135> Maybe it's a problem with the network adapter.
[17:32] <joel135> Maybe the swap partition is too small.
[17:39] <pabloevia> Thanks for answering.  is there any way to figure out which could be the problem?
[18:08] <joedoe47_> Press alt+Ctrl+del should pop up system monitor see if swap is greater than or equal to the amount of ram you have. If swap is smaller, its a problem with swap, easy fix.
[18:09] <joedoe47_> You could also try putting it to sleep and seeing system logs by reading through all the stuff from the dmseg command. That will tell you if there is some hardware that it can't turn on or has drivers for it but its a lot of reading.
[18:14] <LuMint> s/dmseg/dmesg
[18:36] <yeh_0x0h> I'm so stupid, missed the 5 messages I had here
[18:36] <yeh_0x0h> >.<
[18:36] <yeh_0x0h> did you send anything LuMint?
[18:37] <LuMint> when?
[18:47] <yeh_0x0h> just an hour ago or so
[18:48] <yeh_0x0h> I'm joining the Lubuntu realm anyways
[18:48] <yeh_0x0h> I was just asking lol
[18:48] <yeh_0x0h> I like to know background info about my shit lol
[18:48] <yeh_0x0h> Anyhow, what's a Mint shill doing here?
[18:51] <yeh_0x0h> Mint, I found something
[18:51] <yeh_0x0h> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vrms
[18:52] <yeh_0x0h> might be sufficient as for the packages
[18:52] <yeh_0x0h> Lubuntu is Debian based?
[18:52] <yeh_0x0h> Cuz VRMS works on Debian-based distros
[19:40] <swift110> hmm
[19:43] <LuMint> yeh_0x0h: you sound like a 4chan runaway :)
[19:44] <yeh_0x0h> yep : ( that'll be me
[19:44] <LuMint> yeh_0x0h: you should put more work in your reading comprehension skills if you see any mint shills here.
[19:45] <LuMint> no offence
[19:45] <yeh_0x0h> well your says Mint pretty clearly lol
[19:46] <yeh_0x0h> your nick*
[19:46] <LuMint> it doesn't
[19:46] <LuMint> it's LuMint
[19:46] <yeh_0x0h> You're using Camal-casing naming convention! this nick is split into 2:
[19:46] <yeh_0x0h> Lu + Mint
[19:47] <yeh_0x0h> Idk what Lu is, but Mint suggested Mint the distro
[19:47] <yeh_0x0h> at least to me
[19:47] <yeh_0x0h> you might have a different semantical meaning to this syntactic token :P
[19:48] <yeh_0x0h> *drops the mic* (shamelessly)
[19:48] <LuMint> actually, it does refer to Mint, Lu standing for LXDE
[19:48] <yeh_0x0h> oooh
[19:49] <yeh_0x0h> see
[19:49] <LuMint> or *Lu*buntu
[19:49] <yeh_0x0h> yeah or that
[19:49] <yeh_0x0h> lol
[19:49] <yeh_0x0h> you got me, I admit it
[19:50] <yeh_0x0h> but before I do, ima just say this:
[19:50] <yeh_0x0h> regarding your 4chan runaway notice, ima tell you this:
[19:50] <yeh_0x0h> takes one to know one
[19:50] <yeh_0x0h> :P
[19:50] <yeh_0x0h> I used to be a lurker but not a shitposter
[19:53] <wxl> !language | yeh_0x0h
[19:54] <yeh_0x0h> Sorry 'bout that. Got carried away.
[19:54] <yeh_0x0h> My apologies.
[19:55] <yeh_0x0h> Happy now, bot?
[19:58] <krytarik> Well, it's more of a common term anyway.
[19:58] <yeh_0x0h> Thank you for your help, LuMint.
[19:58] <yeh_0x0h> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vrms
[19:58] <yeh_0x0h> In case somebody asks about the existence of propietary packages in Ubuntu/its derivates.
[19:59] <yeh_0x0h> Have a good one.
[20:04] <viju> Hi, I do not hear any sound coming out of speakers / headphones
[20:04] <viju> What could be issue? It was fine yesterday.
[20:04] <viju> the issue*
[20:05] <viju> oops,
[20:05] <LuMint> yeh_0x0h: yeah, that's a nice package.
[20:05] <viju> Just tried alsamixer
[20:05] <viju> And now it's coming
[20:07] <viju> Could someone tell what's master and capture in alsamixer? And why the sound stopped coming all of sudden?
[20:07] <viju> It works now
[20:09] <wxl> viju: sometimes you have multiple devices. master controls them all. capture is input.
[20:09] <viju> Do you mean mic, for instance
[20:09] <viju> as capture unit
[20:10] <wxl> yep
[20:30] <LuMint> yeh_0x0h: have you installed Lubuntu?
[21:47] <nnarol> Hi! I just downloaded the 64-bit Desktop image from the website. How do I find out what the build version and date is?
[21:51] <wxl> nnarol: isoinfo -d -i /path/to/iso
[21:51] <Unit193> isoinfo -x /.disk/info -J -i file-name-amd64.iso  technically.
[21:52] <nnarol> Thank you!
[21:52] <wxl> ^^ throw mine through |grep "Volume id" ftw
[21:53] <wxl> however i will admit Unit193
[21:53] <wxl> 's has the benefit of the date/version
[21:53] <wxl> which is valuable with dailies