[01:56] <wafflejock> daftykins, hey so turns out that was the wrong Xorg file hence the wrong version of the kernel in there, found the right one, grepping it I see some new problems showing up so going to see if I can make heads from tails out of this but let me know if you can look again (also thanks for checking it out first time around)
[01:58] <wafflejock> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23351665/ found it in ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log, the one in /var/log/Xorg.0.log was from april apparently before I upgraded to 16.04
[02:01] <wafflejock> ah also that one is without the problem monitor hooked up, gonna reboot now that I know where the log is and hook up the HDMI one too will dump it again here
[02:05] <wafflejock> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23351686/ <-- hooked up to HDMI and VGA with this one, VGA looks good HDMI still crazy as ever
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:14] <ducasse> morning all
[07:06] <OerHeks> hey hey :-)
[07:25] <ducasse> \o OerHeks - how are you?
[07:32] <OerHeks> Not sure ducasse, i think i am dead
[07:33] <ducasse> ooof, that is not good. :-/
[07:33] <OerHeks> :-D
[07:34] <OerHeks> Drabber got his friend for a visit, Pip
[07:35] <OerHeks> So the peace in house has gone, boys are running and "playing"
[07:35] <ducasse> ah, fun for him :) are they keeping you busy? :)
[07:36] <OerHeks> No, i have time for myself, they keep each other buzy
[07:38] <ducasse> i'm swapping a disk today, just need to wake up a bit more first :) root filesystem, so i need to get it right...
[12:39] <EriC^^> !ping
[12:39] <ubot5`> pong!
[12:40] <OerHeks> ¡pung
[12:40] <EriC^^> :D
[12:40] <OerHeks> hi EriC^^
[12:40] <EriC^^> hi OerHeks
[12:40] <ducasse> \o EriC^^
[12:40] <EriC^^> hi ducasse o/
[12:54] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:55] <OerHeks> hi di hi, BluesKaj
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hey OerHeks
[16:00] <nicomachus> lion4407 should get ZERO attention from anyone
[16:01] <nicomachus> Starting at 21:55 https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/10/18/%23ubuntu.txt
[16:01] <nicomachus> well, 21:44 really
[16:02] <OerHeks> i think he encountered the vbox issue that is suited for the 4.8 kernel
[16:02] <OerHeks> http://news.softpedia.com/news/virtualbox-5-1-8-out-now-oracle-adds-linux-kernel-4-8-support-in-virtualbox-5-0-509433.shtml
[16:03] <nicomachus> yea, I just don't want to give him anything after that tantrum.
[16:03] <OerHeks> oh, wait ..
[16:03] <OerHeks> he is going to tell something maybe.. i keep quiet
[16:05] <ducasse> "[21:58] <lion4407> watch the youtube link bitch and shut the fuck up" -- and nobody +b'd him?
[16:05]  * ducasse is surprised
[16:06] <nicomachus> he left right after that
[16:06] <nicomachus> also, no ops were around at the time to get him right away.
[16:06] <nicomachus> I'm sure he'll run right into a +brick wall soon.
[16:07] <OerHeks> phlop bootloader, i don't know why he wants that
[16:07] <ducasse> right. it's no fun to be a volunteer when people have that attitude.
[16:08] <EriC^^> in the morning/afternoon time we definitely need more ops
[16:09] <nicomachus> they're around, they're just in -offtopic or somewhere else and not in main
[16:10] <OerHeks> As ubuntu-member, i have ops in all channels *but #ubuntu
[16:10] <nicomachus> someone give this man a promotion!
[16:11] <EriC^^> that's 8GMT til around 12GMT i guess
[16:11] <EriC^^> troll hour and i usually dont see any ops active
[16:12] <OerHeks> dec 4th i go for my next term of 2 years. or maybe now is a good time to bring this up to ubuntu-ops.
[16:17] <EriC^^> :D
[16:18]  * OerHeks feels blue
[17:39] <daftykins> wafflejock: ooh-err, so perhaps my 16.04 education starts with it being in a new path all the time now? bit worrying how many things change for no good reason... :)
[17:41] <daftykins> does that sound right to everyone else, as i've not touched 16.04... Xorg.0.log isn't in /var/log anymore? D:
[17:46] <pauljw> daftykins, it's still in var/log here.
[17:47] <nacc> pauljw: it's still there, but is it being written to?
[17:48] <nacc> daftykins: doesn't *sound* right, but i can confirm my xorg logs for my current boot are in my .local subdir
[17:48] <daftykins> ah har, so what you have in /var/log might be pre-upgrade?
[17:48] <daftykins> assuming you ran one
[17:50] <nacc> it appears to be from march of this year, so probably pre 16.04
[17:51] <daftykins> well damn, guess i'm learning a new path :|
[17:51] <daftykins> so ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log eh?
[17:52] <nacc> in my case, oddly, it's 1.log -- i have no idea why
[17:52] <nacc> 0.log is older
[17:52] <daftykins> funky!
[17:53] <nacc> daftykins: yeah, dont' have time to debug right now, but also don't have any isuses with graphics :)
[17:53] <nacc> daftykins: doing a quick lsof to see
[17:54] <nacc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23354893/
[17:54] <nacc> i wonder if this was the switch of x sessions to user
[17:54] <daftykins> makes you wonder which user gets the log on a multi user system
[17:54] <nacc> as Xorg is running as my user now
[17:54] <pauljw> well, properties says modified/accessed today w/19.6kB of info in it.  and it references my current kernel dated 10/19/16
[17:55] <nacc> daftykins: ah there are two Xorgs on my system, one running as gdm, one as me :)
[17:55] <nacc> daftykins: admitteldy, i'm on 16.10 not 16.04 :)
[17:55] <daftykins> ah right, makes sense - so were you to ctrl+alt+function key swap you might find another X potentially
[17:56] <nacc> intereesting, there seems to be a X running on vt1 that has no session attached
[17:56] <nacc> i wonder why
[17:57] <nacc> i'm on the vt2 session, which is presumably why 1.log is being used
[17:57] <pauljw> this is also a vbox install, but i wouldn't think that would matter.
[17:58] <nacc> yeah it shouldn't
[17:58]  * daftykins boots 16.10 desktop in a VM
[18:00] <daftykins> XD major showstopper crash on booting in vmware
[18:01] <nacc> heh
[18:03] <daftykins> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/402993 reply 10
[18:04] <nacc> really c 17
[18:04] <nacc> nice that vmware responded
[18:05] <daftykins> i'd imagine a lot of their user base are virtualising Linux :)
[18:06] <ducasse> hmm, x is running as root here on two 16.10 installs.
[18:07] <daftykins> yeah there's some CPU feature that that change masks out, seems to be trashing things
[18:09] <daftykins> apparently 16.10 can be a bit funky under vbox too right now
[18:09] <nicomachus> OerHeks was saying that the new vbox update should address some of the issues
[18:12] <daftykins> gotta love it when i google for issues with vmware workstation 12 on ubuntu 16.10, i get...
[18:12] <daftykins> "How-to Install VMware Workstation Pro 12 on Ubuntu 16.10 Yakkety ..."
[18:12] <daftykins> :>
[18:20] <OerHeks> Buy it, use it, break it, fix it, Trash it, change it, mail - upgrade it, ... daft-punk-kins
[18:20] <daftykins> >:D
[18:21] <ducasse> tech-no-logic...
[18:24] <OerHeks> i thought there was a ban on username AlvaraMolino ...
[18:25] <daftykins> what's that name about, if so?
[18:26] <OerHeks> it is a guy from wikipedia-se spamming all day
[18:26] <daftykins> hrmm
[18:26] <OerHeks> and that guy with install-login, is also trolling, if you ask me
[18:26] <nacc> seems odd for sure
[18:27] <OerHeks> but if he is right, i will apologize ofcourse
[18:29] <ducasse> i actually think he's genuine, but really bad at recalling exactly what he did and what happened, due to frantically trying 100 different distros and several options on each...
[18:30] <daftykins> XD
[20:27] <nacc> ikonia: you have more patience than i... once someone says file/directory permissions are annoying, I feel like it's only an uphill battle
[20:28] <daftykins> especially if they refer to having 777'd
[20:29] <Ben64> hey i did 777 recursively to /
[20:29] <Ben64> how do i fix
[20:29] <Ben64> :P
[20:30] <nacc> not that extreme (yet), but wanting uids to magically match across multiple systems
[20:30] <nicomachus> Ben64: wat
[20:30] <Ben64> get that occasionally in #ubuntu
[20:31] <Ben64> because people don't like having to use sudo
[20:31] <nicomachus> there really should be a failsafe on that like there is on rm -rf
[20:31] <Ben64> something something idiot proof something something better idiot
[20:31] <nacc> heh
[20:31] <nicomachus> /¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[20:31] <Ben64> you might want to get your hand checked out
[20:32] <nicomachus> idk why it does that extra slash. i can't fix it.
[20:32] <nicomachus> every time I try, it just takes out another.
[20:32] <Ben64> weird
[20:32] <nacc> lol
[20:33] <nicomachus> I have it as an irssi alias, though, because I got tired of googling, copying, and pasting
[20:33] <nacc> nicomachus, just poppin' & lockin'
[20:35] <nicomachus> now I'm gonna ask in #irssi because I remembered it again
[20:36] <daftykins> careful, call someone an idiot and you'll get banned!
[20:36] <daftykins> ;D
[20:36] <nicomachus> lol
[20:36] <nicomachus> speaking from experience?
[20:36]  * daftykins nods
[20:36] <nicomachus> someone keeping a running tally of the chans daftykins is banned from?
[20:36] <daftykins> what do you mean? it's 1.
[20:36] <nicomachus> #ubuntu....?
[20:37] <daftykins> hi i'm daftykins, have we met? :)
[20:37] <nicomachus> once or so