[01:56] daftykins, hey so turns out that was the wrong Xorg file hence the wrong version of the kernel in there, found the right one, grepping it I see some new problems showing up so going to see if I can make heads from tails out of this but let me know if you can look again (also thanks for checking it out first time around) [01:58] daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23351665/ found it in ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log, the one in /var/log/Xorg.0.log was from april apparently before I upgraded to 16.04 [02:01] ah also that one is without the problem monitor hooked up, gonna reboot now that I know where the log is and hook up the HDMI one too will dump it again here [02:05] daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23351686/ <-- hooked up to HDMI and VGA with this one, VGA looks good HDMI still crazy as ever [05:06] good morning to all [06:14] morning all [07:06] hey hey :-) [07:25] \o OerHeks - how are you? [07:32] Not sure ducasse, i think i am dead [07:33] ooof, that is not good. :-/ [07:33] :-D [07:34] Drabber got his friend for a visit, Pip [07:35] So the peace in house has gone, boys are running and "playing" [07:35] ah, fun for him :) are they keeping you busy? :) [07:36] No, i have time for myself, they keep each other buzy [07:38] i'm swapping a disk today, just need to wake up a bit more first :) root filesystem, so i need to get it right... === IdleOne is now known as Guest29134 [12:39] !ping [12:39] pong! [12:40] ¡pung [12:40] :D [12:40] hi EriC^^ [12:40] hi OerHeks [12:40] \o EriC^^ [12:40] hi ducasse o/ [12:54] Hey folks [12:55] hi di hi, BluesKaj [12:57] Hey OerHeks [16:00] lion4407 should get ZERO attention from anyone [16:01] Starting at 21:55 https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/10/18/%23ubuntu.txt [16:01] well, 21:44 really [16:02] i think he encountered the vbox issue that is suited for the 4.8 kernel [16:02] http://news.softpedia.com/news/virtualbox-5-1-8-out-now-oracle-adds-linux-kernel-4-8-support-in-virtualbox-5-0-509433.shtml [16:03] yea, I just don't want to give him anything after that tantrum. [16:03] oh, wait .. [16:03] he is going to tell something maybe.. i keep quiet [16:05] "[21:58] watch the youtube link bitch and shut the fuck up" -- and nobody +b'd him? [16:05] * ducasse is surprised [16:06] he left right after that [16:06] also, no ops were around at the time to get him right away. [16:06] I'm sure he'll run right into a +brick wall soon. [16:07] phlop bootloader, i don't know why he wants that [16:07] right. it's no fun to be a volunteer when people have that attitude. [16:08] in the morning/afternoon time we definitely need more ops [16:09] they're around, they're just in -offtopic or somewhere else and not in main [16:10] As ubuntu-member, i have ops in all channels *but #ubuntu [16:10] someone give this man a promotion! [16:11] that's 8GMT til around 12GMT i guess [16:11] troll hour and i usually dont see any ops active [16:12] dec 4th i go for my next term of 2 years. or maybe now is a good time to bring this up to ubuntu-ops. [16:17] :D [16:18] * OerHeks feels blue [17:39] wafflejock: ooh-err, so perhaps my 16.04 education starts with it being in a new path all the time now? bit worrying how many things change for no good reason... :) [17:41] does that sound right to everyone else, as i've not touched 16.04... Xorg.0.log isn't in /var/log anymore? D: [17:46] daftykins, it's still in var/log here. [17:47] pauljw: it's still there, but is it being written to? [17:48] daftykins: doesn't *sound* right, but i can confirm my xorg logs for my current boot are in my .local subdir [17:48] ah har, so what you have in /var/log might be pre-upgrade? [17:48] assuming you ran one [17:50] it appears to be from march of this year, so probably pre 16.04 [17:51] well damn, guess i'm learning a new path :| [17:51] so ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log eh? [17:52] in my case, oddly, it's 1.log -- i have no idea why [17:52] 0.log is older [17:52] funky! [17:53] daftykins: yeah, dont' have time to debug right now, but also don't have any isuses with graphics :) [17:53] daftykins: doing a quick lsof to see [17:54] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23354893/ [17:54] i wonder if this was the switch of x sessions to user [17:54] makes you wonder which user gets the log on a multi user system [17:54] as Xorg is running as my user now [17:54] well, properties says modified/accessed today w/19.6kB of info in it. and it references my current kernel dated 10/19/16 [17:55] daftykins: ah there are two Xorgs on my system, one running as gdm, one as me :) [17:55] daftykins: admitteldy, i'm on 16.10 not 16.04 :) [17:55] ah right, makes sense - so were you to ctrl+alt+function key swap you might find another X potentially [17:56] intereesting, there seems to be a X running on vt1 that has no session attached [17:56] i wonder why [17:57] i'm on the vt2 session, which is presumably why 1.log is being used [17:57] this is also a vbox install, but i wouldn't think that would matter. [17:58] yeah it shouldn't [17:58] * daftykins boots 16.10 desktop in a VM [18:00] XD major showstopper crash on booting in vmware [18:01] heh [18:03] https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/402993 reply 10 [18:04] really c 17 [18:04] nice that vmware responded [18:05] i'd imagine a lot of their user base are virtualising Linux :) [18:06] hmm, x is running as root here on two 16.10 installs. [18:07] yeah there's some CPU feature that that change masks out, seems to be trashing things [18:09] apparently 16.10 can be a bit funky under vbox too right now [18:09] OerHeks was saying that the new vbox update should address some of the issues [18:12] gotta love it when i google for issues with vmware workstation 12 on ubuntu 16.10, i get... [18:12] "How-to Install VMware Workstation Pro 12 on Ubuntu 16.10 Yakkety ..." [18:12] :> [18:20] Buy it, use it, break it, fix it, Trash it, change it, mail - upgrade it, ... daft-punk-kins [18:20] >:D [18:21] tech-no-logic... [18:24] i thought there was a ban on username AlvaraMolino ... [18:25] what's that name about, if so? [18:26] it is a guy from wikipedia-se spamming all day [18:26] hrmm [18:26] and that guy with install-login, is also trolling, if you ask me [18:26] seems odd for sure [18:27] but if he is right, i will apologize ofcourse [18:29] i actually think he's genuine, but really bad at recalling exactly what he did and what happened, due to frantically trying 100 different distros and several options on each... [18:30] XD [20:27] ikonia: you have more patience than i... once someone says file/directory permissions are annoying, I feel like it's only an uphill battle [20:28] especially if they refer to having 777'd [20:29] hey i did 777 recursively to / [20:29] how do i fix [20:29] :P [20:30] not that extreme (yet), but wanting uids to magically match across multiple systems [20:30] Ben64: wat [20:30] get that occasionally in #ubuntu [20:31] because people don't like having to use sudo [20:31] there really should be a failsafe on that like there is on rm -rf [20:31] something something idiot proof something something better idiot [20:31] heh [20:31] /¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [20:31] you might want to get your hand checked out [20:32] idk why it does that extra slash. i can't fix it. [20:32] every time I try, it just takes out another. [20:32] weird [20:32] lol [20:33] I have it as an irssi alias, though, because I got tired of googling, copying, and pasting [20:33] nicomachus, just poppin' & lockin' [20:35] now I'm gonna ask in #irssi because I remembered it again [20:36] careful, call someone an idiot and you'll get banned! [20:36] ;D [20:36] lol [20:36] speaking from experience? [20:36] * daftykins nods [20:36] someone keeping a running tally of the chans daftykins is banned from? [20:36] what do you mean? it's 1. [20:36] #ubuntu....? [20:37] hi i'm daftykins, have we met? :) [20:37] once or so