[00:39] <brousch__> You probably just copied dirs instead of symlinking all these years
[12:34] <rick_h_> morning
[12:40] <shakes808> morning
[12:48] <_stink_> yo
[14:48] <greg-g> mmhmm
[14:48] <greg-g> I watched the debate last night at a bar in DC. It wasn't as eventful as I expected it to be.
[14:48] <greg-g> the being in DC part, that is
[14:54] <cmaloney> No random Joe Biden jumping on tables?
[14:54] <cmaloney> Because that's what DC needs
[14:54] <rick_h_> greg-g: heh
[14:54] <rick_h_> I don't know how people can watch that stuff
[14:54] <greg-g> it made me drink too much, that's for sure
[14:55] <rick_h_> I made it 5min into debate #2 and was going to start throwing things at my TV
[14:55] <rick_h_> 90min of that full bore? I'm missing a gene for that stuff
[14:55] <greg-g> cmaloney: and yeah, a large portion of people were completely ignoring it, no big reactions in the bar or anything
[14:55] <rick_h_> heh, they'll work for whoever I guess
[14:55] <cmaloney> Sharp contrast to when we were at MichiPUG one evening and the debates were on
[14:55] <cmaloney> (2008 I think?)
[14:56] <cmaloney> Diane Marsh was all over that
[14:57] <cmaloney> Decided sitting in a coffee shop and swearing at Javascript was a better use of my time
[14:57] <rick_h_> lol
[14:57] <rick_h_> not a bad plan for sure
[14:57] <Zimdale> Swearing at javascript is always the best use of time.
[14:57] <Zimdale> fucking javascript!
[14:57] <cmaloney> Better for the blood pressure
[14:58] <cmaloney> best thing I've seen all day: use a = void 0; when you want to make sure something is undefined.
[14:58] <cmaloney> as opposed to a = undefined;
[14:58] <cmaloney> because somoene might have redefined undefined.
[14:58] <cmaloney> The last time I heard of someone redefining keywords was in Forth
[14:59] <cmaloney> and was related to me by a programmer at Ford about a system that someone wrote that he was debugging (and swearing at)
[14:59] <Zimdale> I don't think you can redefine undefined
[15:00] <Zimdale> Yeah unless you've got some funky interpreter
[15:01] <cmaloney> function foo(undefined) { undefined = 5; a = undefined; console.log(undefined); }
[15:01] <cmaloney> > foo();
[15:01] <cmaloney> 5
[15:01] <cmaloney> undefined
[15:02] <cmaloney> But yeah, you have to work a bit to be stupid.
[15:03] <Zimdale> hmm interesting
[15:03] <Zimdale> That edge case does not happen enough for me to use a [15:03] <cmaloney> bah, replace the console.log(a)
[15:03] <cmaloney> but same diff
[15:04] <cmaloney> again, you have to work at it
[15:05] <cmaloney> Almost makes me want to put: if (undefined !== void 0) { console.log("Who did this?!?"); }; at the beginning of my code.
[15:07] <Zimdale> you can't set the global undefined
[15:07] <cmaloney> right, but if your code is called from inside another function...
[15:07] <_stink_> not anymore.
[15:07] <cmaloney> ^^
[15:07] <Zimdale> I think it may work within a function because of the argument thing.
[15:07] <Zimdale> Guess it depends on your app
[15:08] <cmaloney> Yeah
[15:09] <cmaloney> and it's not bad, per se, just another place where I scratch my head at some design decisions
[15:09] <cmaloney> like NaN
[17:40] <Zimdale> So did you get work cmaloney?
[17:51] <cmaloney> not yet
[17:51] <cmaloney> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+CraigMaloney/posts/77FgMi5GGAD
[17:51] <cmaloney> What I think I am: Bad-ass developer who makes cool shit.
[17:51] <cmaloney> What my resume says: I adversely contributed to the world's Excel file problem.﻿
[17:55] <Scary_Guy> could be worse, it could say "was part of the team that made windows ME"
[17:57] <cmaloney> Not sure it's much better.
[17:58] <Scary_Guy> you'll have to tell me the story sometime.  but hey, as someone who uses libreoffice, please make excel as fucked up as possible so we can get more to switch
[17:58] <cmaloney> heh
[17:58] <cmaloney> Was more a metaphor of the gap between where I thought I would be and where I landed
[17:59] <cmaloney> There's probably a German word that encapsulates that
[18:00] <cmaloney> WELTSCHMERZ
[18:00] <cmaloney> TORSCHLUSSPANIK
[18:00] <cmaloney> God bless the Germans
[18:01] <Scary_Guy> gott mit uns :p
[18:02] <Scary_Guy> apologees to any germans, had to go for the off color joke