[18:12] <picnic> what's the 'best' way to add dropbox to xubuntu? The dropbox site had Unbuntu and Debian .deb's or there's the command line method (i've used this many times on Mint before). I daresay theres an older version in the repo too (can't check, just installing Xubuntu)? I've found with Lubuntu that the Dropbox icon doesn't show any sort of status so can't see when fiels are/have been synced.
[18:13] <picnic> So does anyone have latest LTS with Dropbox icon working properly?
[18:39] <picnic> oh dear. Getting the same problem trying to install Xubuntu as Lubuntu: netbook is going to sleep part way through install and it all falls apart after that. Any way to stop that ?
[18:41] <equilibrium> humm
[18:41] <equilibrium> maybe the problem is your netbook
[18:41] <equilibrium> you already installed other distro?
[18:42] <equilibrium> or try a diferent xubuntu version
[18:42] <equilibrium> maybe you are installing a 64 bit version in a 32 bit computer
[18:42] <equilibrium> dunno
[18:43] <flocculant> picnic: try Settings > Power Manager - set all the 'time' options to never, shouldn't go to sleep via Xubuntu then afaik
[18:49] <picnic> I'm using: xubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-i386.iso, installing to an Acer Aspire One, previously running LXLE. When I tried to install Lubuntu I found it continually sleeping *during install* then it often wouldn't shut down properly (just hung). Edited grub configuration to set acpi to none/off but no change. Now wanting to try Xubuntu instead but it literally switched off with a click during install.
[18:55] <equilibrium> try xubuntu 16.10 dunno
[18:59] <picnic> just restarting install - one last try
[19:24] <picnic> installed. restarting :)
[19:29] <picnic> doesn't want to restart. after 'remove media' msg press enter and get a blank screen. off switch...on switch...booting, got xubuntu screen sda1 clean  message then power off. same problem as lubuntu I think.
[19:34] <picnic> set acpi=off in grub, ran update-grub... no power off before log in this time :)
[19:36] <picnic> looks good. so can anyone answer my original question - best way to install dropbox so it works properly? :D
[20:37] <bl4ckbyt3> hey, does anyone know if it's possible in k3b to fetch metadata from aiff audio files?
[20:38] <dCLCp> so for some reason when I go to look for software some days it will just sit there spinning it's circle.
[20:38] <dCLCp> why does it do that?
[20:51] <bl4ckbyt3> hey, does anyone know if it's possible in k3b to fetch metadata from an aiff audio file?
[20:52] <knome> k3b is a kde app, people on #kubuntu might know better
[20:52] <bl4ckbyt3> thx, I'll try there
[22:49] <sponge> Hello
[22:50] <sponge> How safe is it to install kde apps on xubuntu? like k3b, ocular, dolphin, digikam, etc?
[23:08] <knome> safe? as safe it is to install them on kde
[23:13] <Unit193> Well, sometimes it wants to bring in half of KDE, which isn't a problem on KDE.
[23:14] <knome> but that doesn't make it less safe
[23:22] <sponge> Unit193, When it offers to bring half of kde, can that risk the system? break it?
[23:23] <sponge> or the only downside is "less free space on the HD" (which is less of a problem these days and ugly/not-sleek gui>
[23:23] <Unit193> sponge: Then you have half of KDE, not going to say "no" because there's always that one guy..  But likely'll just pull in a lot of extra deps, so "safe"
[23:24] <Unit193> Looks like the "worst" thing k3b would bring is phonon, soo go for it.
[23:27] <sponge> and what about dolphin?
[23:28] <Unit193> It's pretty much up to you to decide what you're OK with and not.
[23:29] <sponge> Unit193, But anyway there's no risk of breaking the system because of that? I'm asking because of that: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/fatalmistakes
[23:29] <sponge> If you want to ensure that your operating system continues to work well, stick to the default desktop environment. And don't install any KDE applications in Ubuntu or Linux Mint, that upon installation pull in half of the KDE desktop as dependent files (like for example DVD burner K3B does)
[23:29] <sponge> sorry, last message is a quote
[23:29] <knome> that's the opinion of a single person
[23:30] <knome> but yes, usually it's not the recommended thing to do; but if you need those applications anyway, there's not much you can do
[23:31] <Unit193> Yeah I'm not going to agree with that either.  I've had thunar and pcmanfm both installed, because each had different features.  That sounds a bit like "Stick with defaults, they're good for you" which...Isn't quite right, use what works best for you.
[23:32] <sponge> and have you ever used kde apps in xubuntu?
[23:35] <Unit193> Ever?  Likely, but I tend not to because of the extra libs.  I also don't usually go for a lot of GNOME apps either though.
[23:37] <sponge> OK. Why do the extra libs matter if today there are HD big enough to store whatever you want? (unless video editing)
[23:37] <knome> the question is not storage space; it's more about performance when running those apps
[23:37] <knome> but obviously there are systems where it doesn't really matter performance-wise.
[23:40] <sponge> if they don't play so nice, will 'uninstall' purge all of their dependencies?