[00:07] <dxiri> is us.archive.ubuntu.com having problems?
[00:07] <dxiri> I am getting 503 Service unavailable
[00:08] <nacc> dxiri: maybe a bit slow, but it's working for me
[00:09] <Tadgy> How/where do I report a kernel bug to at ubuntu?
[00:09] <nacc> !bug | Tadgy
[00:09] <dxiri> weird...got broken on 2 boxes here like that
[00:09] <nacc> Tadgy: i believe the package to use is 'linux'
[00:09] <Tadgy> nacc: Thanks.
[00:10] <nacc> Tadgy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Bugs
[00:12] <nacc> dxiri: for a specific URL?
[00:12] <dxiri> E: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-security/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages  503  Service Unavailable
[00:12] <dxiri> E: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages  503  Service Unavailable
[00:12] <dxiri> E: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/newton/main/binary-amd64/Packages  503  Service Unavailable
[00:12] <dxiri> E: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-backports/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages  503  Service Unavailable
[00:12] <dxiri> E: Failed to fetch http://mirror.rackspace.com/mariadb/repo/10.0/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages  503  Service Unavailable
[00:12] <nacc> dxiri: uh, use a pastebin next time
[00:13] <somethis> dxiri: http://pastebin.com/
[00:13] <nacc> dxiri: i feel like you're using an out of date apt, or something -- they are now zipped files (not Pacakges, but Packages.gz or Packages.xz)
[00:13] <nacc> dxiri: are you trying to use xenial archives on non-Ubuntu?
[00:15] <somethis> mhmm, my wlan disappeared after upgrading to Ubuntu 16.04.
[00:15] <somethis> http://imgur.com/a/WgX0n
[00:15] <somethis> ... any suggestions?
[00:17] <nacc> somethis: seems like it should 'just work': http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/2015-04-03-zyxel-zyair-g-220-wireless-adapter-usb-2-0-802-11g ?
[00:18] <shadoxx_> somethis: do you see any messages in 'dmesg' that say "firmware" and "failed"?
[00:18] <dxiri> this is so weird
[00:20] <somethis> shadoxx_: running dmesg ...
[00:22] <somethis> http://pastebin.com/fjvrk3bT
[00:23] <somethis> nacc: it used to just work.
[00:24] <tj2robotics> Hey, anyone else having problems with arm64 archive packages for 14.04?
[00:24] <floown> Hello
[00:24] <floown> When I do a : sudo do-release-upgrade, no version is found
[00:24] <floown> Why? ^^
[00:25] <tj2robotics> Maybe you're on the latest version?
[00:26] <somethis> shadoxx_: I see some lines with "failed" but I don't get them :-) ... [    0.207518] acpi PNP0A08:00: _OSC failed (AE_SUPPORT); disabling ASPM
[00:26] <tj2robotics> Anyone having problems with apt-get update (arm64 sources repo not downloading (404))
[00:27] <Bashing-om> floown: Ehatis the current telase intalled ? And what is set for the upgrade path ' grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' ?
[00:27] <tj2robotics> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=acpi+PNP0A08%3A00%3A+_OSC+failed+(AE_SUPPORT)%3B+disabling+ASPM
[00:28] <Bashing-om> floown: * what is the current release installed *
[00:28] <floown> Bashing-om: Kubuntu 1604
[00:28] <floown> 16.04
[00:29] <shadoxx_> somethis: can you pastebin the output of 'dmesg'? i warn you, there might be serial numbers or otherwise personally identifiable information in the output, but nothing terribly compromising
[00:30] <tj2robotics> Bashing-om: Are you having trouble with the arm64 sources repo, or is it just me?
[00:30] <somethis> shadoxx_: sorry, didn't address you with the link ... here it is ... http://pastebin.com/fjvrk3bT
[00:30] <Bashing-om> tj2robotics: Can not say .. as I am not accessing the arm64 repo .
[00:31] <shadoxx_> somethis: any reason you're running the lowlatency kernel?
[00:31] <tj2robotics> Bashing-om: I'm not trying to either, but if I do apt-get update it fails with finding the arm64 list.
[00:32] <Bashing-om> tj2robotics: Pastebin the command and it's output, please . We see what the error condition is .
[00:33] <somethis> shadoxx_: That's because I'm running Ubuntu Studio ...
[00:33] <shadoxx_> makes sense
[00:34] <N3X15> Are there any known issues with open-vm-tools?  They don't seem to be working at all on 16.04.
[00:34] <somethis> shadoxx_: just for recording stuff every now and then.
[00:34] <tj2robotics> Bashing-om: We tried a few different countries, just to see, but here is the last one we tried. They all get the same error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23356665/
[00:35] <shadoxx_> N3X15: did you install the plugins? open-vm-tools by itself won't show things like networking info, you have to install open-vm-tools-<feature>
[00:36] <shadoxx_> somethis: not sure what's going on here. lots of ACPI errors though, could be an issue. but, do you know which kernel driver your USB wifi dongle is supposed to use?
[00:36] <N3X15> shadoxx_, open-vm-tools-desktop is installed, as is the dkms module.  Other than the dev-package, there are no other packages to install.
[00:37] <shadoxx_> somethis: I'd try something like, 'modprobe <kernel module>', and then see if you get a failure message in dmesg
[00:37] <shadoxx_> usually that shows you what's going on. i didn't even see the driver attempt to be loaded in that output you pasted
[00:38] <shadoxx_> N3X15: what feature isn't working that you're expecting to work? what hypervisor are you using?
[00:38] <somethis> shadoxx_: ok ... yes, it's weird. It also takes forever to shutdown. Seems to be a common error but I can't find a solution ...
[00:38] <N3X15> shadoxx_, I'm using VMware Workstation Player 12, and am trying to get graphics to work properly.  I'm getting boatloads of graphical glitches.
[00:40] <shadoxx_> N3X15: Oh, yeah. Does Workstation come with its own ISO you can insert? I know VirtualBox has it's own Guest Additions CD, which you attach to the running VM and then install
[00:40] <N3X15> shadoxx_, the VMWare tools produce the same result when installed.
[00:40] <shadoxx_> somethis: Honestly, with as new as 16.04 is (and if you need this to be a stable machine), I'd revert back to 15.10/14.04, or try your luck with the new 16.10 distro. Could be your issue is fixed upstream
[00:41] <Bashing-om> tj2robotics: Look'n :
[00:41] <somethis> shadoxx_: ... yes, you're right
[00:41] <shadoxx_> N3X15: interesting. Does your host have any sort of hardware acceleration enabled? Also, how much graphics memory are you giving to the VM?
[00:42] <Bashing-om> tj2robotics: http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/restricted/binary-amd64/ , Not to sure I understand all I do not know here .
[00:42] <shadoxx_> N3X15: those are just my general troubleshooting techniques. i've had very hit and miss luck with graphics and VMWare/Virtualbox
[00:42] <shadoxx_> N3X15: on Mac OS X, sometimes I can't get a Guest to take up the fullscreen on the host until I reboot.
[00:43] <N3X15> shadoxx_, I have hardware acceleration enabled and 256MB allocated,  I'll try with 1GB but I'm not holding my breath since the hypervisor isn't even aware tools are running.
[00:43] <tj2robotics> Bashing-om: We tried the Romanian mirror because the US mirror kept failing.
[00:43] <somethis> shadoxx_: thank you! Ok, I'll give that a shot tomorrow. Thanks for taking the time..
[00:43] <shadoxx_> somethis: anytime!
[00:44] <shadoxx_> N3X15: hmm. will it show the IP address of the Guest?
[00:44] <N3X15> shadoxx_, the guest has network connectivity, so I assume so.
[00:45] <shadoxx_> N3X15: I meant, does the IP of the Guest show up in the Workstation GUI? I don't have a copy of Workstation handy unfortunately.
[00:46] <N3X15> shadoxx_, 768MB of VRAM, still glitchy as heck.  I'm in Player, so no fancy stuff like Workstation.
[00:47] <shadoxx_> oh, that might be the issue.
[00:47] <Bashing-om> tj2robotics: In the path is " Packages.gz  : where I expected the named path end to be " Packages " . I do not know what to advise in this situation .
[00:47] <shadoxx_> N3X15: https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2073803
[00:48] <shadoxx_> N3X15: with how "enterprise" the VMWare suite is, I would put money on Player not supporting open-vm-tools
[00:48] <shadoxx_> N3X15: you might have better luck with VirtualBox. If you have an OVA that's for Player, you can probably convert it to a VirtualBox image pretty easily
[00:48] <N3X15> shadoxx_, given that player is bundled with VMWare tools and even they don't work whatsoever...
[00:49] <shadoxx_> N3X15: what's your Host OS?
[00:49] <N3X15> shadoxx_, and I converted from VirtualBox due to the lack of 3D acceleration.  I'm on Win7 as the host
[00:49] <N3X15> (x64 Ult)
[00:50] <Bashing-om> tj2robotics: Do you have something non-standard in your sources.list file(s) ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' , Would not hurt to check .
[00:51] <shadoxx_> N3X15: i'm stumped. could be a range of things. generally graphics and virtualization, on consumer hardware at least, is very hit and miss
[00:51] <atralheaven_> Hi, I've encrypted my flash drive with LUKS + ZFS using "cryptsetup luksFormat" command and then "cryptsetup luksOpen", now I have the device on /dev/mapper, how can I mount it so I can use it?
[00:52] <tj2robotics> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23356714 I don't see anything unusual.
[00:52] <N3X15> and all of a sudden it works. WTF.
[00:53] <Bashing-om> tj2robotics: look'n .
[00:53] <eatyerface> Old bones full of green dust!
[00:56] <shadoxx_> N3X15: huzzah! linux!
[00:56] <N3X15> it's still glitchy, but resizes, at least.
[00:58] <Bashing-om> tj2robotics: I too see no fault with  that sources.list file . So far beats me .
[00:59] <tj2robotics> Bashing-om: Maybe they are doing server maintenance?
[01:00] <Bashing-om> tj2robotics: I would not think that is the reason, as you have changed mirrors . I have seen no others with issues in your respect .
[01:00] <Bashing-om> tj2robotics: No 3rd party sources ?
[01:01] <N3X15> Is there a way to completely reset network-manager?  Even though I can SSH out, the icon in KDE just brings up an empty list.
[01:03] <tj2robotics> Bashing-om: Alright, ill assume its server maintenance, and ill try again tomorrow, thanks though
[01:05] <Bashing-om> tj2robotics: K ..
[01:06] <proctologist01> bye
[01:28] <dyc3> hey, would anyone, by any chance, have a method to install a bunch of outdated versions of packages?
[01:29] <Rarrikins> How do I find when a package was last updated?
[01:31] <lordcirth> dyc3, why would you want to do that?
[01:31] <logan0405> Hi, I have this problem on multiple computers and it's really really annoying
[01:31] <logan0405> I install Ubuntu, then it works once, but after I restart it stops working
[01:32] <logan0405> It hangs on the Ubuntu . . . . screen forever after the second boot
[01:32] <logan0405> Latest ubuntu 16.10 i believe
[01:32] <lordcirth> logan0405, did you install them from the same CD/USB?
[01:32] <Bashing-om> dyc3: Installing outdated versions of packages breaks the system, not many here will want to help you break the system .
[01:32] <logan0405> No, I tried burning a new USB because I thought it was a fluke
[01:33] <logan0405> Grub works fine, I can dual boot into Windows if I want, but Ubuntu seems to just get corrupted after one boot
[01:33] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | logan0405 Tried ??
[01:33] <logan0405> Thank you I'll try, sounds like it could be the problem.
[01:34] <Bashing-om> logan0405: Only likely .. try and advise on results .
[01:35] <logan0405> Just press E to edit the boot commands and add in nomodeset right?
[01:36] <lordcirth> logan0405, yes, on the kernel line
[01:36] <dyc3> lordcirth: im doing a computer security competition tomorrow, and i have to create VMs to test our repair scripts on.
[01:37] <lordcirth> dyc3, I guess that makes sense.  Why not download a 14.04.0 ISO, install it, and not update?
[01:37] <TheNH813> Is there a way to speed up the notifications?
[01:37] <TheNH813> Like if I skip through a bunch of sings, it still displays the name for each quite a few seonds.
[01:38] <TheNH813> Where is the setting for the notification bubble timeout?
[01:38] <logan0405> No go, it hangs just the same with nomodeset added to the kernel line, but the splash screen is no longer high resolution.
[01:38] <dyc3> lordcirth: i thought of that after i had done a bunch of work to screw up the VM
[01:38] <lion4407> is there a simple command to do the opposite of do-release-upgrade?
[01:39] <TheNH813> logan0405: Video problems?
[01:39] <lordcirth> lion4407, no, you shouldn't go backwards
[01:39] <lion4407> im having issues with 16.10
[01:39] <lion4407> lol
[01:39] <TheNH813> logan0405: Try a VGA= option instead. What resolution you want?
[01:40] <logan0405> Nope I doubt it's video problems. It works perfectly I can play videos games and everything the first time I boot into Ubuntu. After one restart, everything gets fouled up. This happens consistently over multiple installations. I have not booted into Windows since installing. My bios is UEFI
[01:40] <lordcirth> lion4407, what issues?
[01:40] <lordcirth> logan0405, did you verify the ISO hash, or run the installer self-check?
[01:40] <lion4407> network manager does not want to show openvpn and ubuntu 16.10 does not want to work in virtualbox sigh
[01:41] <TheNH813> logan0405: Hm..... do you have any wierd UEFI options set? Like a custom secureboot key?
[01:41] <logan0405> I have secureboot turned off
[01:41] <TheNH813> Ah, ok then it can't be that. Is it a laptop or desktop?
[01:42] <logan0405> How can I verify the ISO hash lordcith? And I'm 99% sure that isn't the problem. It works perfectly fine installing and I used for days before restarting the first time, which after I restarted it broke
[01:43] <TheNH813> That sounds like a drivers issue of some sort. Have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[01:43] <logan0405> Not that I'm aware TheNH813 , I just installed chromium, geany, redshift and gnome desktop
[01:44] <TheNH813> Has it ever been able to boot in recovery mode?
[01:44] <phenom> I just wanted to give props to the canonical crew. Seems without enabling home encryption at install, 16.04 is pretty solid without needing any-to-much configuration.
[01:45] <phenom> However when I enabled home encryption, it was an utter mess that would crash every 20 hours.
[01:45] <phenom> For some reason, yet to be figured out.
[01:45] <logan0405> I just tried recovery mode, a menu popped up and then I hit resume, now it's hanging on "Started User Manager for UID 125"
[01:46] <TheNH813> Reboot, and select the "root" option.
[01:46] <TheNH813> From recovery mode.
[01:46] <phenom> And now I'll disappear until the next LTS.
[01:46] <TheNH813> logan0405 You might be able to get a root prompt. If that's the case, you can pull up DMESG to look for anything wierd.
[01:46] <phenom> lordcirth, We were discussing the EVO SSD iirc? Seems the new firmware works fine.
[01:47] <logan0405> yep I gota root prompt, I'll do dmesg
[01:47] <lordcirth> phenom, indeed, mine has worked fine for 2 years since I got it.
[01:47] <phenom> lordcirth, Right on. You haven't enabled home encryption by chance have you?
[01:48] <lordcirth> phenom, I have, actually
[01:48] <lordcirth> Also btrfs
[01:48] <TheNH813> phenom: I'd have to agree on that one, 16.04 is pretty stable. Only problems I had was forcing the right soundcard to stay default. Eventually just deleted the hda-intel HDMI driver module. XDDD
[01:48] <logan0405> I've got dmesg in less TheNH813, what am I looking for here
[01:48] <phenom> lordcirth, Can I ask what laptop you have?
[01:48] <phenom> thinkpad x220 here btw
[01:49] <lordcirth> phenom, desktop, built
[01:49] <TheNH813> logan0405: Anything that seems like a critical error, like a failure to load a module or initialize something.
[01:49] <phenom> I'm done trying to squash the bug, I'm just curious if it could be lenovo specific.
[01:50] <lordcirth> phenom, that seems unlikely
[01:50] <phenom> lordcirth, I'm unsure why I assumed you had a laptop.
[01:50] <lordcirth> As am I
[01:50] <lordcirth> I actually just ran out of space on my 50GB btrfs partition, which went poorly
[01:51] <AIvaroMoIina> ^^^ JOIN #wikimedia-ayuda ^^^^ patrocined by UAwiki
[01:51] <lordcirth> Had to delete a bunch of stuff so I could apt -f install so I could apt autoremove
[01:51] <TheNH813> logan0405: And if you don't find any failures there, we can be sure it's not the Kernel and drivers, but something that happens later in boot.
[01:51] <logan0405> ACPI error: namespace lookup failure, maybe some stuff about snd_hda_intel errors but that's all I see
[01:51] <phenom> lordcirth, I hate playing the space game
[01:51] <Guy1524> hey guys, my ram usage is really weird, I only have chrome and steam open, but I am using 8.7 GB of RAM  System monitor: https://i.imgur.com/BBoozf8.png     Top command: https://i.imgur.com/lgT2oYN.png
[01:52] <TheNH813> logan0405: Can you try booting normally, but remove the quiet and splash options from the kernel command line?
[01:52] <logan0405> sure, I'll try it again, I just tried it I think no text popped up unless I made a mistake
[01:52] <lordcirth> Guy1524, no, you are using 2.2GB RAM for processes, and the rest is cache.
[01:52] <Guy1524> ?!
[01:52] <Guy1524> wut
[01:53] <lordcirth> !ram | Guy1524
[01:53] <TheNH813> logan0405: Yeah just press edit on the default (normal) os option and remove the quiet splash words. See what specific part it hangs on. You'l get lots of boot time messages.
[01:53] <Guy1524> oh ok
[01:53] <logan0405> Did that, there is no text on my screen
[01:53] <lordcirth> Guy1524, 'htop' instead of 'top' is a nice way to visualize it
[01:53] <Guy1524> how do I stop this, because my programs keep crashing when they go over the limit
[01:54] <Guy1524> k
[01:54] <phenom> OK guys.
[01:54] <phenom> seeya
[01:54] <logan0405> TheNH813, no luck. There is no text or splash as before after removing quiet and splash options. Just a black screen.
[01:54] <lordcirth> Guy1524, that should not be happening.  Are you running 32 or 64bit?
[01:54] <Guy1524> 64 bit
[01:55] <Guy1524> here Ill check again just to make sure
[01:56] <Guy1524> nvm, its fine now
[01:56] <lordcirth> Guy1524, try 'free -m' or installing htop
[01:56] <TheNH813> logan0405: Mkay, try this again, remove "quiet" and "splash" but also add "text VGA=791"
[01:56] <lordcirth> htop shows color-coded ram usage that is nice
[01:56] <Guy1524> thanks for the help, I never knew about disk caching
[01:57] <Guy1524> is there any way you can make System Monitor not include ram used for disk caching?
[01:57] <nacc> Guy1524: generally, you *want* to use all your memory
[01:57] <TheNH813> Guy1524: I was confused the first time I saw it as well. It definitely improves application startup times. :D
[01:57] <Guy1524> huh, ok, thanks
[01:58] <kk4ewt> Guy1524, http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[01:58] <logan0405> TheNH813, I replaced 'quiet splash' with 'text VGA=791' no go, same thing. I am using HDMI not a VGA cable don't know if that matters
[01:58] <Guy1524> seen that kk4ewt
[01:59] <TheNH813> logan0405: Hm... this seems to be a very odd problem. Basically, the words "test" force it to run as text only (non-graphical) mode, and the VGA= option forces 1024x768 to ensure it's not a graphics issue. Must be something a bit more complex. Could be a hardware conflict.
[01:59] <nacc> Guy1524: what crashes exactly?
[01:59] <TheNH813> I meant text, not test. XD
[01:59] <logan0405> ah haha ok
[01:59] <nacc> Guy1524: and what do you mean by 'limit'?
[01:59] <Guy1524> i dont know why, but earlier today a game crashed and froze the whole desktop
[01:59] <logan0405> i will try 'test VGA=791'
[01:59] <Guy1524> I assumed it was because of ram
[02:00] <Guy1524> but I guess thats not the case
[02:00] <TheNH813> No no, text was correct.
[02:00] <logan0405> oh fudge
[02:00] <nacc> Guy1524: if it was actually because of out of memory, you would see a bunch of failures in `dmesg` (and processes being killed)
[02:00] <Guy1524> (I had eclipse, chrome, steam, and the game open, and I have 12 GB)
[02:00] <TheNH813> Try "text nomodeset VGA=791 acpi=vendor"
[02:00] <logan0405> Really weird because I was having the same exact problem on my microsoft surface but I thought whatever screw that weird hardware and picked up a new desktop. Now the same thing is happening
[02:00] <Guy1524> ok, well that usually doesn't happen for me, back when I had 8GB I played a game called Rust and once ram ran out my computer pretty much froze
[02:01] <Guy1524> I couldn't even switch to tty
[02:01] <Guy1524> and the computer wouldn't respond through ssh
[02:01] <Guy1524> but thats off topic, thanks for the help guys
[02:01] <TheNH813> logan0405: Give me a few minutes to look something up.
[02:02] <nacc> Guy1524: it can lead to a system crash; but more than likely what you experienced was kswapd thrashing (if i had to guess) -- meaning the kernel is trying to swap to disk (if you have a swap partition) just as fast as it is allocating memory and never catches up
[02:02] <nacc> Guy1524: that's just a guess, though
[02:02] <logan0405> tried "text nomodeset VGA=791 acpi=vendor" same thing
[02:03] <nacc> Guy1524: note that ssh not responding isn't abnormal if you actually are in OOM, as the network stack in the kernel can start to fail
[02:03] <Guy1524> I don't have a swap partition
[02:03] <Guy1524> I only have 60 GB of space on my SSD
[02:03] <TheNH813> logan0405: Just a theory I have, but can you try booting it as legacy instead of UEFI?
[02:03] <logan0405> yeah you gotta be right
[02:03] <TheNH813> Just turn off UEFI temporarially, and try starting it.
[02:03] <logan0405> ill try that
[02:04] <logan0405> im sure
[02:04] <nacc> Guy1524: seems odd -- but would need to get logs when it happens to really debug
[02:04] <Guy1524> ya, and I dont play that game anymore anyway
[02:04] <Guy1524> so its fine
[02:05] <logan0405> ugh no boot device found, but I'm sure the problem is UEFI, it's given me headaches before. after you restart it always screws you over.
[02:07] <TheNH813> logan0405: I guess Ubuntu didn't install the non-UEFI version of Grub then. But, maybe reinstall Ubuntu in Legacy mode. I can't say anything else unfortunately, I'v not encountered this before. Though I have fixed quite a few similar problems.
[02:07] <logan0405> Yeah I guess I will, well I'm actually 100% sure the problem is UEFI
[02:07] <TheNH813> But this one's not giving the clear signs such an issue usually gives. Sorry I couldn't help you man, hope you can figure it out.
[02:07] <logan0405> I have had this same thing happened before, but you just reminded me
[02:07] <logan0405> after you restart it it always overrides stuff and does stuff without telling you
[02:08] <logan0405> Thanks for your help
[02:08] <TheNH813> Ah, like it changes a setting or something on it's own. That makes sense.
[02:08] <TheNH813> Good luck!
[02:10] <tester56> test
[02:10] <logan0405> tester5: it didnt work
[02:12] <lordcirth> Is there a mod that disables Kerbin ground science?
[02:12] <lordcirth> Oops wrong channel :P
[02:21] <Drunkwizard>  Hello, I have recently setup an envoirnment for personal use on a 1 Terabyte harddrive, wondering how much Kubuntu /root install takes.
[02:21] <Drunkwizard> It appears it is taking more than 200 GB, which is not normal, not even for KDE.
[02:21] <Drunkwizard> one more thing, I am also having this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1047384
[02:22] <lordcirth> Drunkwizard, where do you see 200GB used?
[02:23] <Drunkwizard> lordcirth: In the root my home folder is currently not that occupied.
[02:24] <Bashing-om> Drunkwizard: A tight working install " /dev/sda1       4.7G  2.2G  2.3G  49% / " of 4.7 Gigs for root .
[02:24] <lordcirth> what?
[02:24] <lordcirth> Drunkwizard, what does df -h show for / and /home?
[02:26] <Drunkwizard> lordcirth: https://paste.kde.org/pd1asl4ja
[02:27] <Drunkwizard> Bashing-om: Interesting.
[02:29] <lordcirth> Drunkwizard, install 'ncdu' or another diskspace tool, and see where it wnt
[02:29] <Drunkwizard> lordcirth: Alright.
[02:31] <Anthaas_> I am somewhat tempted to give a WM a try, like Awesome or XMonad - what are the limitations of using such a thing?
[02:32] <Drunkwizard> lordcirth: Nevermind, it was me.
[02:32] <Drunkwizard> Thank you.
[02:33] <Bashing-om> Drunkwizard: When you installed, did you choose " erase disk and install ubuntu "  Where the installer installed to the whole entire hard drive ?
[02:34]  * KingsQuest is away: with OpenBSD lowest
[02:34] <lordcirth> Anthaas_, dwm is nice, as is Openbox.  The limitations? hard to say, maybe just give it a shot.  You can also use a VM
[02:35] <mundus2018_> Can I add software to apt?
[02:35] <lordcirth> mundus2018_, you can add PPAs to add other people's software.
[02:35] <Anthaas_> lordcirth: Like, currently I use a lot of visual software to do things, now moving away from that isn't an issue. Are they capable, however, opening software such as IntelliJ IDEA, Sublime Text, Google Chrome, etc?
[02:36] <Anthaas_> Or are you limited to CLI?
[02:36] <lordcirth> Anthaas_, what?  Of course graphical windows work fine
[02:36] <lordcirth> Anthaas_, in fact, you are using a WM right now, it's just that you *also* have a DE
[02:36] <Anthaas_> Oh good! Every time Ive seen people using them, I have only seen them using CLI tools
[02:37] <lordcirth> Anthaas_, well yes, that's because usually somewhat hardcore people use them, who also tend to mostly use CLI.
[02:37] <Anthaas_> I do a lot of CLI stuff, hense the thought
[02:37] <lordcirth> I used to use dwm and pretty much everything in CLU
[02:37] <lordcirth> CLI*
[02:38] <Bashing-om> Anthaas_: One reason is that the CLI is univeral across all distributions .
[02:39] <Anthaas_> Hmm, I'll definitely wait until I've finished my presentation tomorrow - I'll probably try it first with a VM when I get home.
[02:39] <Anthaas_> Thanks guys. Ill take a look at dwm now.
[02:52] <vagner> thanks
[02:53] <vagner> hi
[02:57] <logan0405> Crap, I thought my problem was fixed but I disabled UEFI and I'm having the exact same problem. After I reboot, my ubuntu installation won't even start up
[02:57] <logan0405> it hangs at Ubuntu . . . . screen
[02:58] <logan0405> tried nomodeset, tried text only boot mode; no text showed up, recovery mode I can boot to a root prompt
[02:58] <logan0405> and now It's not even showing grub
[03:04] <logan0405> ah crap, the problem was GDM, gnome display manager. for some reason it just isn't working entirely with default install of gnome, just black screen
[03:04] <pandu> kkm
[03:09] <Rarrikins> Is there a way to get top to sort by the USED column? When I set it to sort by that, it seems to be sorted randomly.
[03:15] <Random832> Rarrikins: how do i get the column to even show up?
[03:16] <Rarrikins> Random832: Press capital F to show the fields, go up or down to it, press space to show it, press s to sort by it, press q to exit back to the main screen.
[03:16] <Random832> nevermind i got it
[03:16] <Random832> you know, it's weird, in general they seem sorted, just a few are out of order
[03:27] <Random832> i give up
[03:27] <Defiance_> on what
[03:27] <Random832> on Rarrikins' question
[03:29] <Rarrikins> Random832: I've been filling out a bug report.
[03:29] <V0iD> My Ubuntu disconnects from WiFi after closing Lid. Power management for WiFi is disabled, hibernation is off
[03:29] <Random832> it's clearly *a* consistent sort order, if you move off and back to it it goes to the same order
[03:30] <Rarrikins> V0iD: Is standby turned off?
[03:30] <V0iD> Yes
[03:31] <Rarrikins> V0iD: Sorry, not sure then.
[03:31] <V0iD> Rarrikins: Yes
[03:32] <V0iD> Rarrikins:  It just drops connection by decreasing signal strength, when i turn on, it connects again, I have sane problem with my phone
[03:34] <V0iD> Anyone got any idea???
[03:39] <V0iD> 8:59 AM <V0iD> My Ubuntu disconnects from WiFi after closing Lid. Power management for WiFi is disabled, hibernation is off
[03:39] <V0iD> I will ask later
[04:21] <soupnanodesukar> any ideas why I'm getting this error? https://paste.ubuntu.com/23357540/ Using oibaf ppa.
[04:22] <soupnanodesukar> I *think* it's a problem with the compiled-in llvm.
[04:27] <soupnanodesukar> ok nvm
[04:30] <MichelleBachelet> @@@@ J@IN #wikimedia-ayuda @@@@
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows a way to list latest snap packages from terminal or ubuntu software on 16.04?
[05:04] <Mr_Frog> hey, i just updated to 16.04. The poweroff and reboot commands have disappeared, and I am unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[05:04] <Mr_Frog> How should I go about trying to shutdown?
[05:06] <Guestie> hey! I remember a clock/stopwatch application that came with Windows. Is there something similar that I can get for Ubuntu Desktop TLS 16.04?
[05:06] <Surry> I'm having trouble installing a persistent Ubuntu onto a USB stickeroo. Option for persistence doesn't even pop up in the Disk Creator.
[05:07] <Guestie> Surry, I wish I could help you, but I am having issues understanding what "a persistent" is.
[05:07] <Ben64> Surry: try unetbootin?
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> Guestie: i think the ubuntu clock snap package
[05:08] <Surry> Ben64, I'll try. Universal USB Installer did not work either.
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> Mr_Frog: did you try a sudo reboot?
[05:09] <Guestie> lotuspsychje, I'm not sure how "snap" packages work. I've always done "sudo apt-get install XYZ" and it works.
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> Guestie: you can use terminal or ubuntu software to search snap on its name, perhaps try 'clock' or snap find clock
[05:11] <Mr_Frog> lotuspsychje, i get sudo: reboot: command not found
[05:11] <juanonymous> when the site goes something like this...
[05:11] <juanonymous> Error 500
[05:11] <juanonymous> Internal Server Error.
[05:11] <juanonymous> If you are the site admin, click here for details (+)
[05:12] <juanonymous> probably it has reached its peak?
[05:12] <juanonymous> i mean ram usage
[05:13]  * mwd clicks the +, nothing happened..
[05:14] <juanonymous> what is the probable cause of that?
[05:15] <Ben64> juanonymous: not enough information to determine answer
[05:16] <juanonymous> ok
[05:16] <mwd> probably a ground fault though
[05:18] <Guestie> lotuspsychje, now I'm required to use Ubuntu One.
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> Guestie: to do what?
[05:19] <Guestie> and I'm having issues using that account (which I already made for Launchpad)
[05:19] <Guestie> lotuspsychje, to get Ubuntu Clock off of the software center
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> Guestie: you need ubuntu one for ubuntu touch downloading packages, but wasnt aware it was needed for desktop?
[05:22] <Guestie> I used https://login.ubuntu.com/ which let me login, but Ubuntu Software Center isn't letting me login!
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> Guestie: can you try the terminal way
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> Guestie: snap find clock
[05:26] <Guestie> lotuspsychje, if I do it the terminal way, I don't have to do this snaps account bull****?
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> Guestie: not sure, wasnt aware of ubuntu one on desktop snaps...
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> Guestie: try sudo snap install yoursnap-name
[05:29] <virgo> hello
[05:30] <Caluser2000> hi
[05:43] <adamg> So I underwent some hairy issues with a 14.04 -> 16.04 upgrade a couple days ago (cryptsetup was broken, among other things, so was worried about unbootable system since I have FDE). Mostly working now, but when I run apt update, I get an error about debtags --local on stderr: https://gist.github.com/AdamG/79830dce9e8247d727c2bccb84860d0c
[05:45] <adamg> if anyone recognizes it/knows what the fix is, that'd be great - apart from that, wondering A. if i should be worried about apt not actually working correctly and B. what next debugging steps should be
[05:50] <Surry> Ben64, UNetBootin did not work for a persistent Ubuntu install on my USB,
[05:51] <MichelleBachelet> @@!!@@ J@IN #wikimedia-ayuda @@!!@@
[05:51] <Surry> It still gives me the install and try Ubuntu options.
[05:51] <Surry> Rip.
[05:54] <Ben64> Surry: well of course it does
[05:54] <Ben64> it's still a live usb
[05:54]  * Surry explodes.
[05:55] <Surry> Rip, not what I wanted. Now I leaves. Tired and didn't sleep for 3 days.
[05:55] <Ben64> persistent means changes you make in the live system.... oh well
[05:58] <virhilo> hi
[05:59] <virhilo> anyone has this issue? http://superuser.com/questions/1132418/google-chrome-logs-out-from-every-webpage-after-system-user-has-logged-out
[05:59] <virhilo> or managed to solve it
[05:59] <JuanManuelSantos> @@!!@@ J@IN #wikimedia-ayuda @@!!@@
[06:10] <UrsaTempest> Okay. So I need to take Screenshot of LibreOffice Writer while opening Edit menu.
[06:10] <UrsaTempest> But each time I use PrtSc, the Menu closed and gnome-screenshot takes the closed menu.
[06:11] <UrsaTempest> How to... well, how to make it not closed?
[06:11] <Wulf> UrsaTempest: sleep 5; import -window root shot.png
[06:11] <fireba11> morning. got a strange behaviour: pm-suspend doesn't wake up proberly while pm-hibernate works fine. any ideas where to start searching for the problem?
[06:11] <reisio> UrsaTempest: GIMP also has a pretty straightforward File > Create > Screenshot dialog
[06:12] <UrsaTempest> ...I'm sorry. Would you kindly explain it more, Wulf? I.. don't understand.. Ah! Yeah, I have GIMP. Thanks reisio!
[06:12] <reisio> GIMP is probably the way if you didn't get Wulf's suggestion
[06:12] <reisio> or if you are familiar with a video screencasting app, you could make a video, and easily grab a single frame (or short bursted series) with mplayer -vf screenshot
[06:13] <reisio> but, probably GIMP for you :D
[06:16] <kaleo_> nihao
[06:17] <kaleo_> register
[06:17] <kaleo_> dfa
[06:17] <kaleo_> dfa
[06:17] <cfhowlett> !cn | kaleo_
[06:17] <cfhowlett> !kylin | kaleo_
[06:23] <elias_a> UrsaTempest: gnome-screenshot can also do the trick.
[06:23] <elias_a> UrsaTempest: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126787/how-to-take-screenshot-of-indicator-menus
[06:23] <UrsaTempest> Thanks!
[06:35] <INeedHelp> hello.  I have a laptop that has a broken lcd screen. In order to install ubuntu on it, I need to take the hard drive out and install ubuntu on it using another computer. How do I go about this? Once it is installed and I put it back in the computer will it work? If not what do I do?
[06:35] <INeedHelp> hello.  I have a laptop that has a broken lcd screen. In order to install ubuntu on it, I need to take the hard drive out and install ubuntu on it using another computer. How do I go about this? Once it is installed and I put it back in the computer will it work? If not what do I do?
[06:36] <cfhowlett> INeedHelp, remove hdd. install in other computer.  boot ubuntu from  a usb.  install.  remove HDD.  install in 1st computer.  boot it up.
[06:36] <INeedHelp> cfhowlett: once I put the hard drive back in the original pc will it JUST WORK?
[06:36] <cfhowlett> hopefully
[06:36] <INeedHelp> if not what might happen
[06:37] <cfhowlett> no way of knowing as you don't have a monitor to give you feedback.
[06:37] <INeedHelp> i have an external monitor
[06:37] <cfhowlett> lovely.  set it up, boot your ubuntu usb and install.
[06:38] <INeedHelp> however, the reason why I need to install it on a differnet pc is because I cannot get the bios to show up
[06:38] <INeedHelp> the external monitor only kicks in once WIndows has turned on
[06:39] <cfhowlett> is this a very old machine?
[06:39] <INeedHelp> not really
[06:39] <INeedHelp> 4 or 5 years
[06:39] <cfhowlett> probably will work
[06:39] <INeedHelp> great!
[06:40] <INeedHelp> i shall come back if I need help
[06:40] <cfhowlett> best of luck
[06:40] <INeedHelp> ty
[06:42] <superguest> I want to change  to a new Theme but I don't know how themes works
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> !themes
[06:43] <superguest> thanks
[06:46] <redding> hallo
[06:52] <superguest> dude, MyUnity is not available through Ubuntu Software
[06:55] <superguest> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy doesn't apply to 16.04.1
[06:56] <Ben64> superguest: wow that article is ancient
[06:58] <maven_> hi just doing test for a vid
[06:59] <maven_> hi @wook
[07:02] <superguest> Ben64, do you know which repo has MyUnity?
[07:02] <superguest> Ben64 or maybe you can suggest a differnt Themes Tools
[07:04] <Ben64> superguest: unity-tweak-tool perhaps?
[07:10] <linocisco> Hi all, I dont have physical servers to Install OpenStack Autopilot on hardware. How can I deploy app on cloud which should be accessible from internet anywhere
[07:10] <linocisco> ?
[07:19] <reisio> linocisco: 1) find networked service that allows installation of openstack autopilot 2) install it & use it
[07:19] <reisio> linocisco: tell me this, though
[07:20] <reisio> linocisco: do you know what "the cloud" is? Do you know what "openstack" is?
[07:20] <reisio> almost nobody does, IME
[07:24] <Ben64> reisio: that's why it's called the cloud
[07:25] <reisio> Ben64: heh
[07:26] <reisio> the nist definition of cloud computing is the most hilarious document of all time (referenced in this msg)
[07:26] <Ben64> when i was taking my first ccna course... 15 years ago... the cloud was the internet or any network you didn't know the configuration of or what was in it or who controlled it, etc
[07:27] <reisio> right, any hosting with vague specs that you pay extra for
[07:27] <reisio> :p
[07:27] <reisio> ...that's made out of water droplets :p
[07:28] <reisio> the best is when your "cloud" goes down because it's housed entirely in a single building (which also has no secondary power source)
[07:28] <reisio> finally we can pay extra for hardware abstracted storage and resources within inches of each other
[07:29] <Ben64> yay marketing
[07:32] <necrophcodr> I wanted to create a virtual interface named lo:1, however I found that doing what I did was not ideal and didn't work
[07:32] <reisio> gj
[07:32] <necrophcodr> I started out with: `ip a add 1.2.3.4/24 dev lo:1`
[07:32] <necrophcodr> but it turns out what works is `ifconfig lo:1 1.2.3.4 255.255.255.0`
[07:33] <necrophcodr> the first command adds the IP to dev lo
[07:33] <necrophcodr> and _NOT_ lo:1
[07:33] <necrophcodr> how come?
[07:33] <necrophcodr> And is it even possible to do the same with `ip` as `ifconfig`?
[07:45] <Adisa> Hallo, what's topic today?
[07:46] <cfhowlett> !topic | Adisa
[07:46] <giulio> Good morning
[07:46] <Adisa> ubottu: i'm sorry i'm new on irc. Thanks for your help
[07:46] <Adisa> !topic
[07:46] <Suntop_Kinseeker> I been trying to understrand how to edit GRUB so I can autoboot in windows instead of Ubuntu if I desire
[07:47] <abcd1234> i like my nick
[07:47] <giulio> im OFFtopic but need some advice on linux in general, what do you think about the Note7 that run on fire? I see low prices so im interested, theris no way to prevent high temp? like shoutdowning it
[07:47] <abcd1234> abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234
[07:47] <abcd1234> abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234
[07:47] <abcd1234> abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234
[07:48] <abcd1234> abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234
[07:48] <Ben64> Suntop_Kinseeker: easy thing to do is this... http://askubuntu.com/questions/252996/how-to-make-grub-remembers-what-i-boot-last-time
[07:48] <Suntop_Kinseeker> the starting screen where it defaults to either O/S it is simple  with the Windows Booter, but in the linux enviorment I cannot default it to another O/S I even moved the text of the booter for windows to be 1st
[07:48] <cfhowlett> giulio, yes you are oftopic.  try #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:48] <Suntop_Kinseeker> (reading)
[07:48] <Suntop_Kinseeker> Okay
[07:49] <abcd1234> abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234
[07:49] <abcd1234> abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234
[07:49] <Suntop_Kinseeker> I understand how to add lines but does it require me to be  in Ubuntu to edit GRUB or can I edit within windows?
[07:49] <Ben64> Suntop_Kinseeker: much easier to do from ubuntu
[07:50] <Suntop_Kinseeker> As I figured Ben64
[07:50] <abcd1234> abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 abcd1234 ab
[07:50] <Adisa> Suntop_Kinseeker : do from ubuntu, you should install bash on windows to do that
[07:50] <Suntop_Kinseeker> bash on windows?! what?!
[07:50] <lion4407> this guy is still going ? lol
[07:50] <abcd1234> who klined me?
[07:50] <Ben64> !ops
[07:50] <lion4407> wb buddy
[07:50] <lion4407> oh wait this #ubuntu
[07:50] <abcd1234> Ben64: who you call ops on?
[07:50] <cfhowlett> abcd1234, stop screwing around
[07:51] <Ben64> poor cfhowlett :(
[07:51] <Adisa> yes, bash on windows, but it's buggy i guess
[07:51] <linocisco> Ben64, hi
[07:51] <Suntop_Kinseeker> Sigh
[07:51] <abcd1234> i tricked the guy
[07:51] <Ben64> wb cfhowlett
[07:51] <linocisco> Ben64, sometimes ok fast shutdown with wifi disabled. sometimes not ok.
[07:51] <Adisa> abcd1234: please change your name, stop trolling here
[07:51] <marcofe> hello all
[07:51] <lion4407> abc1234 where you getting those ip's?
[07:51] <cfhowlett> Ben64, thanks.
[07:51] <lion4407> abc1234 where you getting those ip's?
[07:52] <lion4407> sigh
[07:52] <ikonia> lion4407: please don't engage with people trolling
[07:52] <cfhowlett> lion4407, this ^^^
[07:52] <lion4407> i can ask in #freenode
[07:52] <ikonia> lion4407: they won't welcome it there either
[07:52] <Suntop_Kinseeker> Yeah good Idea. Anyways. Bash on windows?! Isnt that beta still
[07:52] <lion4407> they are not quite as strict
[07:52] <cfhowlett> Suntop_Kinseeker, not beta, now fully released
[07:53] <Suntop_Kinseeker> Okay I will reinstall the bash part again now it is not beta anymore
[07:53] <Ben64> bash on windows doesn't make it any easier to edit grub though
[07:54] <Suntop_Kinseeker> No I will just reboot into Ubuntu on my Intel Pentium D machine
[07:55] <Suntop_Kinseeker> is it as easy to set up shares in Ubuntu as it is in windows? (Never set up shares in the Linux enviorment)
[07:56] <abcd1234> !ops
[07:57] <cfhowlett> abcd1234, please go play somewhere else.
[07:57] <Suntop_Kinseeker> They won't and that is not a proper K-Lined quit responce
[07:58] <Suntop_Kinseeker> Okay is there something wrong with my shares. It takes 30 seconds to open my windows share in this VM on this machine
[07:59] <Suntop_Kinseeker> Anyone have a tip to speed up the network response from my windows shares?
[08:00] <Backwards> Suntop you can msg me if you would like some help.
[08:00] <Suntop_Kinseeker> okay
[08:03] <Ben64> !pm | Backwards & Suntop_Kinseeker
[08:04] <juanonymous> 86:IA:BF:63:2B:66 <- what is this?
[08:04] <Ben64> juanonymous: not enough information to determine answer
[08:05] <cfhowlett> !ask | juanonymous,
[08:05] <reisio> juanonymous: probably a macid
[08:05] <Ben64> reisio: with a capital i ?
[08:06] <reisio> Ben64: who says it has a capital i
[08:06] <silverfang> Hello! anyone awake?
[08:06] <Ben64> reisio: uh, juanonymous did
[08:06] <reisio> silverfang: that's possible
[08:07] <cfhowlett> silverfang, ubuntu is a global community so don't assume it's nighttime worldwide.  what is your ubuntu question.
[08:07] <reisio> Ben64: what, because he typed it?
[08:07] <reisio> Ben64: that's a stretch :p
[08:07] <silverfang> reisio: great! I just switched to linux (ubuntu) from windows 10... i have a problem that im not sure about, tried to google. May i ask here?
[08:07] <reisio> silverfang: sure
[08:08] <lion4407> !ask
[08:08] <silverfang> reisio: The minimize,maximaze and close are on the left side of the panel border, can i somehow get it to the right side?
[08:08] <splashing> https://ring.cx/
[08:08] <ikevin> silverfang, yes, choise a theme who have them in the right
[08:08] <ikevin> chose*
[08:08] <cfhowlett> splashing, don't spam here please
[08:08] <Ben64> that site tries to install malware *watch out*
[08:09] <linocisco> regarding, Libreoffice Calc, how to distribute all columns evently
[08:09] <linocisco> ?
[08:09] <silverfang> ikevin: what do you mean? where do i choose the right theme then?
[08:09] <reisio> silverfang: I believe unity-tweak-tool covers that
[08:09] <reisio> silverfang: install it & prosper
[08:10] <silverfang> reisio: I have tried using it and changing it there however it doesnt work.
[08:10] <Ben64> last i checked, it wasn't possible to move them in unity anymore
[08:10] <splashing> cfhowlett, it is a software not spamming!!!!!
[08:10] <reisio> silverfang: what doesn't work, exactly?
[08:10] <Ben64> splashing: it isn't ubuntu support so it is spam
[08:10] <cfhowlett> splashing, yes it is.
[08:11] <silverfang> reisio: To change the buttons to the right side of the window
[08:11] <reisio> silverfang: what ubuntu version?
[08:11] <linocisco> regarding, Libreoffice Calc, how to distribute all columns evenly?
[08:11] <silverfang> the 14.0 reisio
[08:12] <reisio> silverfang: should work for 14
[08:12] <reisio> silverfang: what exactly are you doing with unity-tweak-tool?
[08:13] <silverfang> reisio: i cannot find the right option in tweak, however i tried to use dconf as ifound that solution on the web but with no luck. Could you tell me where to go in the tweak tool?
[08:14] <Ben64> not possible in 14.04
[08:15] <reisio> well of course it is
[08:15] <reisio> and in 16, too :p
[08:15] <silverfang> Ben64: are you refering to me?
[08:15] <Ben64> referring to you and reisio i suppose
[08:16] <silverfang> Ben64: gah, i thought i could customize everything in linux (A), gotta go with arch for it? Im to noob for it damnit.
[08:16] <reisio> silverfang: the path of least resistance, though, would be to use something other than unity
[08:16] <reisio> silverfang: try plain compiz, it's closest
[08:16] <Ben64> silverfang: you can do it in not Unity
[08:16] <reisio> you can customize everything, but not always with 0 effort
[08:17] <silverfang> reisio: I've tried to do about 4 ways already, none working :( reisio do you know where in unity tweak that the option is?
[08:18] <silverfang> Ben64: oh do you mean i cannot do it in unity twak?
[08:18] <Ben64> you can't do it. ever. no way. no how. (in unity)
[08:18] <silverfang> Ben64: so how can i fix it? Is there a way? :]
[08:18] <Ben64> not use unity
[08:19] <silverfang> Ben64: do you mean the unity tweak prog or is "unity" a ubuntu theme?
[08:19] <Ben64> !unity
[08:19] <reisio> silverfang: it'd look like this: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f4p0ApyYw7g/U6uL3LxoJjI/AAAAAAAAG08/5DMefwBPJqk/s1600/18_utt-Appearance-Window-Controls_wm.png
[08:20] <zzz_> siema boty
[08:20] <zzz_> xD
[08:20] <reisio> Unity is a religious version of compiz; again, for the path of least resistance, try using ordinary compiz
[08:20] <reisio> IIRC you can just run compiz --replace & save your session
[08:21] <zzz_> xD
[08:21] <metRo_> Hello all
[08:21] <reisio> 'lo
[08:21] <metRo_> I accidentally remove my boot partition :s
[08:21] <metRo_> How could I restore it?
[08:21] <zzz_> why ?
[08:21] <Ben64> metRo_: how did you remove it
[08:22] <zzz_> table partiotion
[08:22] <zzz_> or partiotion ?
[08:22] <metRo_> I think I was delete a usb drive partition
[08:22] <metRo_> :s
[08:22] <metRo_> On gparted I delete the boot partition
[08:22] <Ben64> use testdisk to find it and recover
[08:22] <silverfang> reisio: how did you get to that page? :P
[08:22] <metRo_> I only notice that I had the main drive selected when it doesn't allow me to delete the main partition
[08:23] <Ben64> metRo_: it shouldn't have let you delete /boot either, since it would have been mounted
[08:23] <Ben64> and it would say /boot
[08:24] <metRo_> Ben64: I have testdik open, which partition table type should I choose? EFI GPT partition ?
[08:24] <metRo_> it says EFI GTP partition table type has been detected
[08:25] <silverfang> reisio: i found this: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2265406
[08:25] <reisio> silverfang: images.google.com ( https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&sout=1&safe=off&q=unity%20tweak%20tool%20window%20controls )
[08:26] <silverfang> people say its not possible to do it anymore :s
[08:26] <metRo_> Ben64: it found 3 partitions on  a quick search
[08:26] <reisio> I think even Ben64 said that, already
[08:26] <Ben64> silverfang: i've been trying to tell you
[08:26] <zzz__> ...
[08:27] <metRo_> MS DATA 2048 - 1050623; MS Data 1050624 - 1936842751; Linux Swap 1936842752 - 1953523695
[08:27] <silverfang> Ben64: so what am i supposed to do exactly? :p
[08:27] <Ben64> silverfang: told you that already a bunch of times
[08:27] <linocisco> what is the bypass proxy software so that firewall can't detect
[08:27] <metRo_> the first one has 1048576 sectors, how many bytes is each sector? to confirm that it is 512Mb
[08:27] <metRo_> ?
[08:27] <linocisco> which sites i am using
[08:28] <Ben64> metRo_: you look like you're on the wrong disk
[08:28] <silverfang> Ben64: i cant find it, please tell me again what am i supposed to do in order to get it to the right side of the panel?
[08:28] <Ben64> silverfang: ~~~~you can't do it~~~~
[08:28] <metRo_> Ben64: Doesn't understand what you said
[08:28] <metRo_> BTW I found the boot partition
[08:28] <Ben64> silverfang: how many times do i have to tell you the same stuff?
[08:28] <metRo_> how can I restore it now?
[08:28] <metRo_> Load Backup?
[08:29] <zzz__> xD
[08:29] <silverfang> Ben64: but reisio said its possible :(
[08:29] <metRo_> or add partition?
[08:29] <Ben64> metRo_: how do you know you found it
[08:29] <metRo_> because on the bottom of the page when I select the first MS Data
[08:29] <metRo_> it says FAT32, 512 MiB
[08:29] <Ben64> metRo_: the boot partition wouldn't be fat32
[08:29] <metRo_> that is exactly the info I had on gparted
[08:30] <metRo_> when I deleted it
[08:30] <metRo_> and it said boot
[08:30] <Ben64> ok so you can restore that. it isn't your /boot partition though
[08:31] <metRo_> Ben64: to restore should I choose A: add partition or L: load backup ?
[08:32] <silverfang> Ben64: reisio thanks for answers, sadly it doesnt work with unity ui in 14.~ :(
[08:33] <Ben64> metRo_: i think you just hit enter on the partition
[08:33] <metRo_> enter on the partition will list files
[08:33] <Ben64> p lists files
[08:33] <metRo_> p is the default option
[08:34] <metRo_> now I can choose: Keys A: add partition, L: load backup, T: change type, P: list files,
[08:37] <JustAnotherIdiot> what's a good tutorial on how to setup a custom service?
[08:38] <linocisco> how to draw tender box in ubuntu? which software is better to draw and design with template?
[08:43] <theShirbiny> JustAnotherIdiot, ubuntu 16.04?
[08:43] <JustAnotherIdiot> yes
[08:43] <JustAnotherIdiot> I think I found one
[09:01] <zamanf> I am using Windows7 now and I want to delete it from my pc and install it again along with ubuntu. Is there a guide to show me how to install both OS with a boot loader? It's been a long time since I did it
[09:04] <kucing> where am i
[09:04] <brunch875> zamanf: So you want to delete it from your PC or keep it alongside ubuntu?
[09:04] <akik> zamanf: first install win7 and after that ubuntu. write grub into mbr and let it boot both of the oses
[09:04] <kucing> im lost
[09:04] <syedomar> miow
[09:04] <brunch875> kucing: This is the ubuntu support channel
[09:05] <JustAnotherIdiot> does anyone know how to setup a custom service/daemon?
[09:05] <zamanf> akik, I have to create partitions first. Ubuntu does it for me without ruining the current win7 installation?
[09:06] <brunch875> zamanf: Ubuntu does so unless there isn't enough space. Basically you have options to pick letting you choose to install alongside or wiping everything
[09:06] <akik> zamanf: yes there's an option "something else" at the partitioning stage
[09:07] <brunch875> I wouldn't even go as far as using the advanced partitioner when you can pick the options
[09:07] <akik> zamanf: but you said you want to delete win7 first?
[09:07] <k200> can i install updates at cron @reboot ? or it will ask for password and fail?
[09:07] <zamanf> akik, can I install ubuntu on USB and boot from there?
[09:07] <brunch875> zamanf: yes
[09:08] <JustAnotherIdiot> is it something nobody knows how to do?
[09:08] <brunch875> zamanf: The windows installer is known not to respect ubuntu installations, so install windows FIRST to wipe your old instalation
[09:08] <leonard> Hi Guys
[09:08] <brunch875> hello
[09:09] <DEX757> hi
[09:09] <DEX757> :)
[09:09] <leonard> thx for response
[09:09] <leonard> you all nice person
[09:09] <akik> JustAnotherIdiot: what ubuntu version are you using? it differs if you're using upstart or systemd
[09:10] <zamanf> ok
[09:10] <JustAnotherIdiot> 16.04
[09:10] <lakitu> installing 16.04, fails toward end, saying could not install grub-x64-uefi package or something
[09:10] <lakitu> any ideas?
[09:10] <lakitu> happened twice
[09:10] <akik> JustAnotherIdiot: then you need to create a systemd service
[09:10] <zamanf> I am googling a bit about the USB option and I am currently reading something about Rufus. My guess is that I will have to touch the BIOS, isn't that right?
[09:10] <lakitu> am on a newer 3770k system
[09:11] <leonard> what is "tor" and for what I am using Backbox and I am newbie....
[09:11] <akik> JustAnotherIdiot: here are some examples: dropbox) http://askubuntu.com/a/806631, znc) http://wiki.znc.in/Running_ZNC_as_a_system_daemon#Get_the_daemon_up_and_running
[09:12] <brunch875> zamanf: You're probably going to have to touch the BIOS to change the boot order so that it tries the USB first. But many computers allow you to simply hit F8 or something to pull up a menu and boot from there.
[09:13] <Backwards> Brunch true F2 or F8
[09:13] <brunch875> F2 is normally the bios itself
[09:13] <brunch875> on my PC it is F12 though
[09:14] <brunch875> Many computers display some sort of "press f12 for booting options" while they're powering on
[09:14] <brunch875> some others are a bit more secretive about this
[09:15] <Backwards> Brunch you are correct on the Boot Order but not all BIOS's recognize USB.
[09:15] <zamanf> alright, so I will make a normal fresh Windows7 installation and install Ubuntu on a separate USB 3.0 disk. whenerver I want a linux OS I will just plug the USB in. No partitions, nothing depends on anything.
[09:16] <brunch875> zamanf: The ubuntu installer does all the partitioning by itself, very easily (if that's your concern)
[09:16] <Backwards> You can install a complete Ubuntu server or OS on a USB stick and set the BIOS boot options to look for the USB first if that is your choice.
[09:16] <zamanf> true, at the moment I am thinking of a USB solution due to the lack of HD space
[09:17] <zamanf> I am only concerned if the USB installation will be slow when I use Ubuntu
[09:18] <brunch875> it will definitely run slower than on the hard drive
[09:18] <brunch875> but if you're starting anew, space shouldn't really be a problem
[09:18] <Tuplad> What does the sign ; mean in samba.conf ? Commented out ?
[09:19] <Backwards> Zamanf, you have no choice but to accept the speed of the USB stick or external drive.
[09:20] <akik> zamanf: ubuntu's hd requirements are not that much. what kind of storage do you have and how much?
[09:20] <maxliao> omg
[09:20] <zamanf> even on USB 3.0 port?
[09:21] <zamanf> akik, not much. Just perl programming
[09:21] <akik> zamanf: i mean, you can resize your windows partition and get space on your hard disk for ubuntu
[09:21] <brunch875> ^That's what I'd also recommend
[09:22] <zamanf> would you recommend me to copy the ubuntu.iso file to my USB, set my BIOS to boot from USB first and create a partition on my current Windows drive?
[09:23] <Backwards> You can also partition a memory stick to dual or tripple boot.
[09:23] <zamanf> Backwards, I am concerned about the speed, I guess I will have to avoid the USB installation
[09:24] <brunch875> zamanf: if you do the regular process, what you put in your USB is going to be an ubuntu installer
[09:24] <brunch875> which is also bootable
[09:24] <zamanf> ok
[09:24] <Backwards> Best thing is to experiment and see what is best for you. There are no hard and fast rules for that.
[09:24] <brunch875> so don't worry about the complexity of the installation
[09:25] <brunch875> it's nothing like "boot into USB then pull out the partitioning table and then manually copy ISO here and there"
[09:25] <brunch875> it's more like clicking next next next
[09:25] <zamanf> yeah, the linux installation has changed a lot during the last years, made a straight forward process, easy for everyone
[09:26] <Backwards> You can run a Virtual Machine on a memory USB stick. Use your immagination.
[09:27] <Backwards> You can run a Ubuntu or Linux server on a USB device and take it to work or anywhere.
[09:32] <Backwards> Take care folks.
[09:37] <bnz> hey can anyone help me , i am trying to install linuxcnc on a fresh install of precise following these instructions http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/getting-started/getting-linuxcnc.html i get to the step where they say to reboot and check the kernel version. where it reports i am running the generic version of the kernel not the rtai version i need for realtime hardware control. i have enable the grub menu to see if there was an option to select
[09:37] <bnz>  the rtai kernel but its not in the list, update-grub finds the new kernel but it still won't boot it..
[09:37] <bnz> any help would be greatly appreciated.
[09:38] <bnz> what are my instructions missing?
[09:38] <oliver8282> hi
[09:39] <oliver8282> hi
[09:39] <oliver8282> hi
[09:39] <oliver8282> hi
[09:39] <oliver8282> hello there?
[09:39] <brunch875> !ask | oliver8282
[09:39] <brunch875> hello
[09:40] <oliver8282> hi\
[09:40] <oliver8282> how to install eclipse?
[09:41] <brunch875> oliver8282: what I like doing is opening a terminal with CTRL-ALT-T and writing in there: sudo apt install eclipse
[09:42] <oliver8282> i tried but it dosent work
[09:43] <oliver8282> .
[09:43] <dreamreal> hi, all. I'm running ubuntu server inside virtualbox, and what I'd like is for the text console to have a larger display. Fixing grub is easy - but it then resets the console to what looks like an 80x40 screen. What am I missing searching for?
[09:44] <oliver8282> i tried but it dosent work
[09:44] <oliver8282> i tried but it dosent work
[09:44] <oliver8282> i tried but it dosent work
[09:44] <oliver8282> aaa
[09:44] <oliver8282> hello ]
[09:44] <bnz> i think i have found a possible solution.. my motherboard is a old POS and probably dont like the 686 version of the kernel so i am trying the 486 version.. it says in apt-cache its for the older hardwares...
[09:48] <bnz> ok the 486 versions have not come up in grub has anyone got a suggestion?
[09:54] <dasdasas> ;]
[09:54] <dasdasas> [;
[09:54] <dasdasas> ;]
[09:55] <bnz> hmmm maybe grub is finding them and they are hidden in the menu that i can't access cuz my keyboard won't respond in the grub menu
[09:55] <bnz> i just upgraded generic kernel and it no longer shows the old one in the menu when it boots..
[09:56] <dasdasas> zzz
[10:00] <dasdasas> ;]
[10:00] <dasdasas> [;
[10:00] <dasdasas> ;]
[10:00] <dasdasas> ;]gegege
[10:00] <dasdasas> exit()
[10:00] <dasdasas> [#exit]
[10:01] <dasdasas> #exit
[10:01] <dasdasas> #quit
[10:01] <dasdasas> (#quit)
[10:01] <dasdasas> [#quit]
[10:03] <dreamreal> dasdasas: really?
[10:04] <dasdasas> dreamreal: yep
[10:05] <bnz> so i go in and look at grub.cfg and see that there is a entry in there for the kernel i installed. ski count the entry's 0123 and change the default value to 3 for the kernel i want.. and reboot.. only to find that it has now selected to do the memory test… and it won't recognise my keyboards in this mode…. yay time to restart my install process all over again from scratch.. :(
[10:09] <shubhnik> i want to install polkit-gobject package and its developer version
[10:10] <shubhnik> i serached it here,and got the results as --> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&keywords=polkit-gobject&searchon=names
[10:10] <shubhnik> How do i know the which is the right names of this package and its developer version
[10:13] <b1u3> hello
[10:14] <b1u3> i have a problem with backtrack
[10:14] <linocisco> hi all,
[10:14] <b1u3> can u help
[10:14] <linocisco> I can't login to windows server using Remote terminal server software
[10:15] <b1u3> i give 100gb to harddisk to backtrack in vmware but it still says low disc space
[10:15] <b1u3> how can i fix it
[10:16] <Ben64> backtrack isn't supported here
[10:16] <rory> b1u3: if you increased the disk size, the filesystem on the disk is still the original size
[10:16] <b1u3> so what should i do
[10:16] <rory> b1u3: you would need to boot from a live ISO inside the VM, then use resize2fs to expand the filesystem to the new disk size.
[10:17] <rory> b1u3: exact syntax is left as an exercise for the reader, since this isn't Backtrack support.
[10:17] <itay2> nacc oerheks are you here?
[10:17] <b1u3> so which os should i use with the same commands
[10:17] <rory> b1u3: any Linux OS. The backtrack iso will be fine. Or an ubuntu ISO.
[10:18] <rory> b1u3: they all support ext4, which is probably the filesystem type.
[10:18] <b1u3> thanks so much rory
[10:18] <bnz> ok i have half my problem sorted.. i can boot the rtai kernel, the kyb was blocked in bios. now my question is a bit easier, how do i get the rtai kernel to be the default in grub, can i simply copy the lines in grub.cfg from one spot to the next? or would i be better off removing all the other kernels (bit of a sledge hammer but don't need the other kernels installed)
[10:19] <RandomNoob> Hello guys I am using Xfce. How to change timezone from terminal? Or which files can I edit for it?
[10:20] <Ben64> RandomNoob: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[10:21] <hopelinux> tzselect
[10:21] <bnz> removing the other kernels appears to be the trick..
[10:22] <bnz> now to work out how to get unity to start a application on boot/login…
[10:22] <bnz> oh how i miss GDM..
[10:23] <RandomNoob> Ben64 is there any other ways ? I want to do that change without my touch. I am writing little python script for myself to configure automatically my liveusb every time I reboot.
[10:23] <bnz> every time  try and remove unit to install gdm i end up with a mess.. so now i am going to try and live with it..
[10:26] <fireba11> bnz: why don't you just use https://ubuntugnome.org/
[10:28] <itay2> nacc oerheks are you here?
[10:28] <_shaun_>  hi guys i cant get my mint install to pick up my bluetooth headphones and ive followed the standard procedures on the net as per https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser/a2dp
[10:29] <vlt> ducasse: I got the solution to my usb re-plug problem: It’s not a udevadm trigger or scsi rescan. It’s a simple `modprobe usb_storage` :-)  Thanks for your help yesterday.
[10:32] <Ben64> _shaun_: mint support is in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[10:32] <_shaun_> thanks ben
[10:33] <moe_a> hello, anyone free to help with a small issue?
[10:34] <fireba11> moe_a: just ask. if someone got time and thinks he/she can help you'll get an answer :-D
[10:34] <bnz> fireba11 i am stuck on 12.04.. but its ok i will see how i go with unity. .this milling machine will have touchscreen that works one day.. it might be ok as i don't have to use the UI too much once linuxcnc is booted and configured i won't have to leave it too often.
[10:35] <bnz> but i have bookmarked that link for future use..
[10:35] <bnz> thanks.\
[10:37] <moe_a> ok, I just purchased a lenovo x1 yoga with windows 10 pre-installed. I made partitions for ubuntu and installed it, but after installation i cant get to boot it or get to grub loader. even though i disabled uefi boot and secure boot =/
[10:38] <fireba11> moe_a: try getting it to start with a usb-stick with http://www.supergrubdisk.org/category/download/supergrub2diskdownload/super-grub2-disk-stable/ and if you can boot it fine you got a running system from where to fix your bootloader
[10:40] <moe_a> fireba11: thanks, i will try that now
[10:44] <shubhnik> hi huys,can someone tell me the differnce between lib<package-name> and <package-name>
[10:45] <shubhnik> for eg,differnce between smbclient and libsmbclient
[10:45] <EriC^^> libpackage is a library
[10:45] <SwedeMike> shubhnik: smbclient is the program, libsmbclient is the library. Some other programs might use the library as well.
[10:45] <shubhnik> so if i want to develop something,than i need libsmbclient rather than smbclient?
[10:46] <SwedeMike> shubhnik: you probrarly need libsmbclient-dev
[10:46] <shubhnik> than whats the differnce between libsmbclient and libsmbclient-dev ?
[10:46] <SwedeMike> shubhnik: libsmbclient is the binary only, libsmbclient-dev would include other things that you need in order to compile programs against that lib (header files for instance)
[10:48] <shubhnik> so exactly how are they used,like when a program/library/lib-dev are used?
[10:49] <itay2> nacc oerheks are you here?
[11:41] <jamie_1> is anyone around that can give me a hand with apt not being able to get internet access?
[11:42] <jamie_1> when i run sudo apt-get update it cant connect to anything. Right now im trying to install git but when i do it cant retreive any of the stuff it needs
[11:42] <jamie_1> the command i am using is sudo apt install git
[11:49] <ikonia> jamie_1: can your host connect to the internet at all
[11:49] <jamie_1> ikonia: i would hope so im talking to you
[11:49] <jamie_1> if not i must be nuts
[11:51] <jamie_1> ikonia: sorry i tend to be a smart ass
[11:52] <Flannel> jamie_1: please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update`
[11:53] <jamie_1> Flannel: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8920680
[11:54] <ioria> jamie_1,   ping www.google.com   works ?
[11:54] <jamie_1> ioria: yes
[11:54] <jamie_1> also just to point this out,... the computer im using irc from is the computer im having issues with so i have internet
[11:55] <jamie_1> all pings work, just not the mirror for ubuntu servers
[11:55] <Flannel> jamie_1: and you can browse to http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ and http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ ?
[11:56] <jamie_1> Flannel: kinda.... i get a pink background with a singular dom element box on the top
[11:57] <Flannel> jamie_1: I'm pretty sure that's a no.  That's also not what's on that page.  So, what else have you done with your network to confuse things when visiting those websites?
[11:57] <jamie_1> Flannel: this is a fresh install
[11:58] <Flannel> jamie_1: For fun, can you go to http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ and/or http://archive.ubuntu.com?
[11:58] <jamie_1> all i have done is installed npm, npm typings, visual studio code, open jdk and jre, and sublime
[11:58] <jamie_1> Flannel: server not found
[11:58] <jamie_1> still have perfect access to archive.mozilla.org
[11:59] <jamie_1> thought it might be the fact of the ftp setup but its seems to not be
[11:59] <Flannel> jamie_1: Do you have any other devices on the same router that could try those?
[11:59] <jamie_1> Flannel: yea one sec
[11:59] <jamie_1> gotta wait for it to boot up
[12:00] <Flannel> jamie_1: While we wait, how did you go about installing those things you listed off?
[12:00] <jamie_1> Flannel: the visual studio code i used dpkg -i and the rest i used sudo apt install
[12:00] <ioria> ./Config
[12:01] <Flannel> jamie_1: So, you *had* repository access, and then it somehow went away?
[12:01] <jamie_1> Flannel: that is why im confused af
[12:01] <kst_> hi
[12:01] <ikonia> looks like dns is bad, rather than the connetion
[12:02] <jamie_1> Flannel: other computer is fine
[12:02] <ioria> jamie_1,   any proxy ?
[12:02] <kst_> anybody up there ?
[12:02] <Flannel> jamie_1: and now that the other computer is fine, does this one still not work?
[12:02] <jamie_1> Flannel: yes it still does not work
[12:03] <Flannel> Well, I'm out of time and ideas, unfortunately.  But I'm sure someone else will be able to pick up and hopefully figure it out.
[12:04] <ioria> jamie_1,   did you edit sources.list for any reason ?
[12:04] <pragsmike> host us.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:04] <pragsmike> Host us.archive.ubuntu.com not found: 1(FORMERR)
[12:04] <jamie_1> Flannel: its all good for now, ill install git via package
[12:04] <jamie_1> ioria: no its a fresh install
[12:04] <ikonia> jamie_1: can you please do "nslookup us.archive.ubuntu.com" and pastebin the output please
[12:04] <fasda> Can Snappy Ubuntu be installed on VirtualBox? I am running Windows host
[12:05] <jamie_1> ikonia: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8920685
[12:06] <ikonia> jamie_1: ok - so there is your probem
[12:06] <ikonia> jamie_1: whatever dns server you are using can't resolve the main archive
[12:06] <ioria> jamie_1,   using NM or /etc/network/interfaces ?
[12:06] <jamie_1> ikonia: im using what ubuntu has set by default
[12:07] <jamie_1> im on 16.04
[12:07] <ioria> jamie_1,   server ?
[12:07] <jamie_1> ioria: i am on ubuntu gnome 16.04
[12:07] <ikonia> jamie_1: so that will depend on your network, not ubuntu
[12:07] <blacknred0> ok, so, I'm trying to upgrade to 16.14 and my PC is caught in some sort of loop.  Does anybody know if there is a way that I could do an offline upgrade?
[12:07] <jamie_1> server i dont even know its not my network its the farms
[12:08] <jamie_1> *dns
[12:08] <blacknred0> I assume that I could download the iso and upgrade that way, right? or will it just replace what I got?
[12:08] <ikonia> how can you be on ubuntu gnome but using ubuntu server
[12:08] <ikonia> lets step back and understand a few core things
[12:08] <ikonia> EXACTLY what version of ubuntu is this
[12:08] <jamie_1> ikonia: its not my network, the other computer sitting next to me is connecting fine, only difference is i am sitting on the gnome flavor and its on the vanila ubuntu
[12:09] <jamie_1> ikonia: I am on UBUNTU GNOME 16.04
[12:09] <ikonia> jamie_1: it is your network that sets/configures the dns server
[12:09] <jamie_1> ikonia: yes, but it seems to be doing that fine since the other computer running ubuntu is connected fine i would think
[12:10] <ikonia> jamie_1: on the broken computer please run this command "nmcli dev list | grep DNS" and compare it to the same command on the working one
[12:11] <jamie_1> ikonia: somewhere in the command you sent me you have an error
[12:11] <ikonia> what is the error you get
[12:11] <pragsmike> fwiw I also cannot resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com, worked ok yesterday
[12:11] <jamie_1> "error: dev command list invalid
[12:11] <pragsmike> http://isup.me/us.archive.ubuntu.com says it's just me
[12:11] <jamie_1> pragsmike: same here
[12:12] <shubhnik> if i have different packages like 'abc','pqr','xyz'  , than can i install all these three or more packages in a single run with sudo apt install abc pqr xyz
[12:12] <ikonia> ok - so it's possible that archive's dns is having a problem
[12:12] <jamie_1> worked fine before i went to sleep last night
[12:12] <ikonia> yes, dns cache will expire and change
[12:12] <pragsmike> can somebody tell me the IP :)
[12:13] <ioria> jamie_1,  ping  security.ubuntu.com
[12:13] <ikonia> why ?
[12:13] <jamie_1> pragsmike: just ping google
[12:13] <pragsmike> bad joke
[12:14] <jamie_1> ioria: it does not work... and that is the 5th time i have been asked to do so
[12:14] <ikonia> hang on
[12:14] <jamie_1> i have pinged both archive and security
[12:14] <ikonia> ping google.com doen't work ?
[12:14] <ikonia> you said that worked a minute ago
[12:14] <jamie_1> ikonia: okay lets define the overall real fast
[12:14] <ikonia> please, just get a clear statement of where you are
[12:15] <ioria> no .... ping security.ubuntu.com not working
[12:15] <jamie_1> google pings fine, random ip, pings fine, security.ubuntu.com does not neither archive.ubuntu.org any of them, the rest of my internet works fine, the computer sitting to my left runs all the same stuff but perfectly fine
[12:15] <ikonia> jamie_1: ok - please do this test
[12:16] <ikonia> jamie_1: "nslookup" that will put you into a query shell, set "server 8.8.8.8" then "us.archive.ubuntu.com"
[12:16] <ikonia> you only type the bits in "quotes"
[12:16] <ikonia> enter after each set of "quotes"
[12:17] <dreamreal> > security.ubuntu.com
[12:17] <dreamreal> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[12:17] <jamie_1> ikonia: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8920688
[12:17] <ioria> ok
[12:17] <ikonia> jamie_1: was that with the commands I gaveyou ?
[12:18] <pragsmike> I can suddenly resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com, which had been failing before, so maybe the problem is resolving itself
[12:18] <ikonia> as it looks like it's still using dnsmasq (although it is working now)
[12:18] <ikonia> yes, I suspect dns servers cache just updated/TTL refreshed
[12:18] <jamie_1> ikonia: nslookup
[12:18] <ikonia> jamie_1: did you set "server 8.8.8.8" as I told you to
[12:18] <jamie_1> ikonia: yes
[12:18] <ikonia> jamie_1: then I don't think you did, as it still used 127.0.0.1
[12:19] <ikonia> but it doesn't matter as it's working
[12:19] <ikonia> I suspect apt-get update will work now
[12:19] <jamie_1> ikonia: either way its working on its own now... and yes it actually does
[12:19] <ioria> jamie_1,   what dns are you using ?
[12:19] <jamie_1> ioria: i dont know
[12:19] <JuJuBee> I have a folder with symlinks in it /home/me/someFolder and I wish to get an accurate listing of disk usage for each folder in /home/me.
[12:19] <ioria> jamie_1,   right click on NM icon and 'Connection Informatio'
[12:20] <jamie_1> also ikonia it does matter because more than one person right here is affected, and it was not done by my doing and was not fixed by my doing which mean it occured on ubunuts side... sorry as a QA engineer i see that as an issues
[12:20] <JuJuBee> I used du -sh ./* and it tells me the folder with symlinks has 95G but there are ONLY symlinks in this folder.
[12:21] <JuJuBee> I don't get the dereference and no-dereference options for du.  What should I use so /home/me/someFolder lists only a few k for the symlinks rather than the size of the symlinked folders
[12:21] <jamie_1> ioria: you need my dns config right? because i dont exactly go handing hout my dns adress
[12:22] <itay2> nacc oerheks are you here?
[12:22] <jamie_1> also that set of steps to get the dns config on ubuntu gnome does not work... its a little different
[12:22] <ioria> jamie_1,   i think they are public
[12:22] <shubhnik> if i have different packages like 'abc','pqr','xyz'  , than can i install all these three or more packages in a single run with sudo apt install abc pqr xyz
[12:22] <ioria> jamie_1,   or cd in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections and open with sudo  privs your connection and grep the dns
[12:23] <EriC^^> JuJuBee: try with du -L
[12:23] <EriC^^> shubhnik: yes
[12:23] <jamie_1> ioria: i know how to get it anyways the dns ip is 192.168.1.1
[12:23] <ioria> jamie_1,   i don't think it's a dns
[12:23] <embrik> Hi all! Is it possible to set my lubuntu-laptop to wake up when ac power is connected? I am setting up this laptop with a broken screen for a friend of mine. It would have been awesome let the laptop be closed, with the external screen on top of it. And just start it up by connecting the power
[12:23] <ioria> jamie_1,   it's your router
[12:24] <jamie_1> ioria: its what gnome is saying my dns is
[12:24] <ioria> jamie_1,   nope
[12:24] <jamie_1> ioria: im not saying its right... but im telling you what it says it is
[12:24] <EriC^^> embrik: you mean from sleep?
[12:25] <jamie_1> dns: 192.168.1.1
[12:25] <ioria> jamie_1,  or you have insatlled a dns cache or some other stuff
[12:25] <jamie_1> that is exatly what it says
[12:25] <JuJuBee> EriC^^, strange now it shows 359G
[12:25] <embrik> EriC^^: no, from without power
[12:25] <jamie_1> ioria: ubuntu gnome has different main packages than ubuntu
[12:25] <EriC^^> embrik: hibernate or fully without power?
[12:25] <embrik> EriC^^: Fully without power
[12:26] <ioria> jamie_1,  ok....  open NM and configure dns
[12:26] <EriC^^> embrik: /join ##linux and ask maybe
[12:26] <embrik> EriC^^: OK, thanks
[12:26] <jamie_1> ioria: either way it is working now, but i still think there is an issue and not on my part. Considdering that by me not doing anything it was fixed and another person is expirencing the same issues, we might want to look on ubuntu's side
[12:27] <jamie_1> sorry as a QA engineer to me its rather obvious
[12:27] <ioria> jamie_1,  as ikonia said it's about your network
[12:28] <jamie_1> ioria: nothing on my side has changed but it is working fine
[12:28] <ioria> jamie_1,  using dhcp or static ?
[12:28] <jamie_1> ioria: im pretty sure static
[12:28] <ioria> jamie_1,  so, open NM and check DNS
[12:29] <jamie_1> ioria: i did, i opened the network manager and checked in the network settings and right next to where it says dns it says 192.168.1.1
[12:29] <ioria> jamie_1,  change with 8.8.8.8 or openservers, as you like
[12:30] <jamie_1> ioria: i will if it ocurs again, right now seeing as its not broken right now... lets try not to fix something that isnt broke at the current second
[12:30] <pragsmike> jamie_l: i think there was a bad DNS record for a while, and a good one is currently propagating, so various DNS servers will fail while others work
[12:31] <brunch875> I tend to use "always on top". But can I make that window ignore clicks and just pass them through?
[12:31] <jamie_1> pragsmike: from time to time its to be expected.. but still rather rare
[12:31] <jamie_1> either way i now have git installed and the only thing left to install is sublime text and i dont have to worry about apt anymore
[12:32] <jamie_1> at that point i have all my tools
[12:44] <embrik> Hi all! Is it possible to set my lubuntu-laptop to wake up when ac power is connected? I am setting up this laptop with a broken screen for a friend of mine. It would have been awesome let the laptop be closed, with the external screen on top of it. And just start it up by connecting the power - I've asked this question before, but I give it a try once more
[12:47] <ioria> embrik, oh, yes :) ... with an external keyboard , you mean
[12:48] <embrik> ioria: yes
[12:50] <ioria> embrik,  yes, but in my case, the battery is gone, and cmos resets every boot...
[12:50] <itay2> nacc oerheks are you here?
[12:52] <ioria> embrik, and when i connect the ac pow, it starts for good displaying  an external monitor
[12:52] <embrik> ioria: I can remove the battery, no use of it. Did you have to do any twaeks, or does it work out of the box, if you have a keyboard with a power button?
[12:52] <embrik> ioria
[12:52] <embrik> ioria: Can you explain me howto?
[12:52] <ioria> embrik, yes and nope
[12:53] <embrik> ioria: have to go, I'll talk to you later? Are you here often?
[12:53] <ioria> embrik,  it'a a broken hp nc 6000 ... yes
[12:54] <embrik> ioria: good, contact you later :-)
[12:54] <ioria> embrik,  ok
[13:00] <nutsack> rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
[13:00] <nutsack> mv ~ /dev/null/
[13:01] <nutsack> cp ~ /dev/sda/
[13:05] <nutsack> sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
[13:05] <ouroumov> !ops
[13:06] <nutsack> ouroumov: the correct command is
[13:06] <nutsack> !danger
[13:06] <nutsack> not !ops
[13:10] <Paul^^> hello
[13:10] <Murii> how can I upgrade ubuntu from 12.04 to 14.xy
[13:10] <Murii> ?
[13:11] <Paul^^> how use ssh client throught sock5 ? I mean I have a sock5 on a port , and I want use this to connect ssh
[13:12] <Paul^^> I don't mean ssh forwording
[13:12] <HoloIRCUser2> @Murii maybe "do-release-upgrade"
[13:14] <Murii> does not work, HoloIRCUser2
[13:21] <abcd> hi
[13:21] <abcd>   # Default profile allows downloads to ~/Downloads and uploads from ~/Public
[13:21] <abcd> why can i save stuff anywhere in my home directory with the profile enabled?
[13:23] <tsenov> Fellas, is fglrx-update properly working on Ubuntu 14.04.5 ? I see that there are proprietary AMD drivers on their website, but they seems to require 14.04.2? Are those 14.04.2 AMD drivers work properly on 14.04.5 ?
[13:25] <abcd> nvm fixed it by just adding a deny rule
[13:30] <af_> helo guyz
[13:30] <sallu> help help help
[13:30] <EriC^^> hello
[13:30] <sallu> my wifi is driving me crazy
[13:31] <af_> sallu, first plug it off and settle down
[13:31] <sallu> anyOne here to explain why the hell still ubuntu unable to make tweaks with realtek wifi drivers to make tweaks about switching power saving mode
[13:31] <af_> sallu, atleast ou should not be driven by an instrument
[13:34] <sallu> af_, :( i am serious dude
[13:35] <ceo_> ceo
[13:37] <sallu> no one here
[13:38] <lbracher> Hi there! I would like to know how to re-enable secure boot on my ubuntu box. Could you give me a clue? Thanks in advance! :)
[13:38] <EriC^^> lbracher: go to the bios and enable it
[13:38] <dsfkjldsf> ls
[13:39] <lbracher> EriC^^, it's enabled there.
[13:39] <EriC^^> lbracher: then it's enabled
[13:40] <lbracher> EriC^^, unfortunately, it's not. I remember when I disabled it I did it on Ubuntu side.
[13:40] <EriC^^> lbracher: it's a bios feature not an ubuntu one
[13:40] <EriC^^> unless you mean something else..
[13:40] <lbracher> Something happens at boot time that disables the secure boot
[13:40] <shubhnik> is there any taglib dev version in ubuntu?,that will provide me taglib.pc file
[13:41] <EriC^^> lbracher: if that were the case, it wouldn't be much of a secure boot :D
[13:42] <lbracher> EriC^^, I see. But something happens and disables it.
[13:42] <lbracher> I'm stuck.
[13:42] <EriC^^> what exactly are you trying to do?
[13:42] <EriC^^> what's the problem exactly?
[13:45] <lbracher> EriC^^, do you remember the process to disable it? I remember I runned a command in Ubuntu, it asked me a password, I rebooted the system and when the bootloader loaded, It asked me that password and the system booted on insecure mode. I didn't entered bios to disable it.
[13:45] <lbracher> So I need the opposit process... :|
[13:45] <awakecoding> I am taking a chance, but I am having issues with schroot on ubuntu. I detailed my problem here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/40178297/schroot-does-not-synchronize-nss-databases-passwd-group-hosts-properly
[13:46] <mure> how do you guys install java ?
[13:47] <EriC^^> lbracher: never heard of that to be honest
[13:47] <lkjkjldsf> $#!+
[13:49] <EriC^^> lbracher: seems related to "mokutil" reading about it..
[13:49] <lbracher> EriC^^, I'll give a look. Thank you!
[13:49] <boxrick1_> Can I specify a --assume-clean in a mdraid preseed?
[13:49] <boxrick1_> The first sync takes ages and its a fresh disk
[13:50] <EriC^^> lbracher: try joining ##linux and asking there as well
[13:51] <EriC^^> lbracher: if secureboot is enabled in the bios it means its enabled already
[13:54] <lbracher> EriC^^, I think there's a caveat. I already enabled it there, but the bootloader disables it. Unfortunately I'm a very old school guy and I didn't got yet all this secure boot process.
[13:54] <lbracher> I'll research a little bit more. Thank you! :)
[13:55] <MarGul> Hey guys. I have a ubuntu server and installed vsftpd on the server. I have opened port 21 and port 6000-7000. I have set the pasv_max_port=7000 and pasv_min_port=6000 in my vsftpd.conf. When I use filezila I get a "Failed trying to retrieve directory listing". Is there anything else I need to do? (works with just ftp host:port)
[13:57] <EriC^^> lbracher: the bootloader can't disable it, you can disable it from the bios or how you did by entering a password and then entering it when the pc boots
[13:57] <maid> hey
[13:58] <maid> is it possible the whole encrypt an ubuntu live usb stick
[13:58] <EriC^^> it's a bios feature that's supposed to not let os boot unless their key is signed or something
[13:59] <EriC^^> lbracher: what makes you think it's not enabled?
[14:00] <maid> EriC^^ do you have an idea
[14:00] <EriC^^> lbracher: try mokutil --sb-state
[14:02] <sumanah> In http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-5195.html , what does the abbreviation "DNE" mean?
[14:03] <lbracher> EriC^^, it says SecureBoot enabled. That's weird. It's very strange, because the secure boot is enabled no BIOS. On boot time I receive a message saying secure boot is disabled. mokutil says it's enabled and my HDMI port behaves like secureboot was disabled. What a mess!
[14:03] <lbracher> EriC^^, thank you. It shed me a light.
[14:03] <maid> can somebody help me please?
[14:03] <lbracher> Now I need to figure out why my HDMI port stopped to work.
[14:04] <lbracher> EriC^^, thank you! :)
[14:04] <EriC^^> lbracher: no problem :)
[14:07] <maid> 1748 users and nobody to help me? :D
[14:08] <brainwash> !ask
[14:08] <boxrick1_> O_o+
[14:09] <maid> i did allready
[14:09] <maid> is it possible to whole encrypt an ubuntu live usb stick
[14:10] <brainwash> did you try it?
[14:10] <maid> nope
[14:11] <mbeierl> maid: you want the OS encrypted, or just the data partition?
[14:12] <maid> the os
[14:13] <maid> maybe with on boot passwort entry
[14:13] <eagle> http://askubuntu.com/questions/529347/how-do-i-keep-my-wifi-from-dropping-out
[14:14] <mbeierl> maid, ok, sorry - cannot help there.  Never tried encrypting a USB for boot.
[14:14] <donofrio> where is the #RaspEX channel?
[14:14] <ioria> maid maybe on debian https://ram.squat.net/tech/live/encrypted_debian_live.html
[14:14] <ebitdj> desperate on installing mcrypt for php7 on ubuntu 16.04
[14:15] <donofrio> anyone know how you can "join" multiple x's together as one xorg display.... aka would like to drive four monitors each with a rpi would like to have one desktop spanned accross the screens
[14:16] <mbeierl> donofrio: as long as the displays are on the same physical computer, I used to do this with Xinerama.  Not sure if it's alive anymore though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinerama
[14:17] <mbeierl> donofrio: sorry, just understood rpi - meaning individual raspberry pis?
[14:17] <SwedeMike> ml
[14:18] <mbeierl> donofrio: then I think the closest you can get is Synergy, which will not allow you to move windows between them, but you can mouse/keyboard across all of them, with clipboard sync.  http://symless.com/synergy/
[14:19] <omer> sa
[14:19] <omer> hello
[14:19] <donofrio> mbeierl, done synergy and that is fine, would like to get a PiWall like setup without the costs....
[14:20] <Random832> I think you could make a supersized vnc server and run a vnc client on each rpi, and use synergy for the mouse. It'd be finicky to set up
[14:20] <mbeierl> donofrio: hmm.  not sure if the poster of this ever got anywhere, but it looks like a start for some more software to look at? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/152291/can-i-move-a-running-application-to-a-different-x-server
[14:21] <donofrio> Random832, something like this - http://www.piwall.co.uk/information/installation without all the extra setup....
[14:21] <itay2> nacc oerheks are you here?
[14:22] <mbeierl> donofrio: Oh - now I understand.  I thought you meant like having XWindows apps that could move between the monitors
[14:22] <Random832> using a vnc server wouldn't be suitable for playing video anyway
[14:22] <donofrio> mbeierl, humm something like this http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~zandy/guievict/ but an alive project and not somethine 7 years old ;)
[14:23] <donofrio> Random832, I want video sometime in the future but for now I'd be happy with four xsessions merged into one usable 2d desktop
[14:23] <donofrio> browser across all x's
[14:24] <donofrio> something like my daily driver setup http://apaste.info/upload/9UH6i.jpg but instead of two desktop's I'd like to have a cpu for each screen....
[14:24] <tarvid> stuttering audio 16.04 Radeon HDMI; would a GT 730 improve things
[14:25] <tarvid> how about 16.10?
[14:27] <mar_> whois
[14:33] <kingwill101> hey im on 16.10 and i just got a usb headset and for some strange reason idk unless the volume is maxed i cant hear a thing any idea as to what might be happening?
[14:34] <kingwill101> its showed as a usb pnp device
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> kingwill101  i a terminal, type    alsamixer
[14:34] <kingwill101> done
[14:35] <kingwill101>  < S/PDIF >S/PDIF 1 S/PDIF 2
[14:35] <kingwill101> only controls im seeing
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> kingwill101  kingwill101 hit F6, no other cards?
[14:36] <Simooon> Is there some way to turn off the way that ubuntu (or all distroes perhaps) uses the alt key to move windows? I am trying to learn blender, and it is preventing me from doing certain things :-/
[14:36] <kingwill101> oh pressing f5 i was able to find usb card
[14:37] <kingwill101> MonkeyDust isnt there a more elegant way of getting this done?
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> kingwill101  not sure
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> kingwill101  in the system settings, maybe
[14:38] <mbeierl> Simooon:  Settings Manager (depending on your flavor) -> Windows Manager Tweaks -> Accessibility: Key used to grab and move windows > Alt
[14:41] <kingwill101> MonkeyDust in settings moving the volume control with the mouse 4 stops down from 100% is the 0 for the pnp sound card
[14:43] <zamanf> I can't seem to find emeralnd for ubuntu
[14:43] <zamanf> is there a specific package name for it?
[14:47] <Simooon> mbeierl, I use standard ubuntu 16.04. It is in Danish, but I don't think I have the "dows Manager Tweaks" menu, is that something I need to install seperately, I've seen there are more advanced tweak options to install, but I've never used them.
[14:48] <Simooon> mbeierl, it should say: "Windows Manager Tweaks"
[14:48] <mbeierl> Simooon: understood.  I just realized I do not have "standard" ubuntu.  Is that Unity or Gnome Shell?
[14:49] <Simooon> mbeierl,  the standard is unity
[14:49] <Castor_Troy> After installing a .deb package, do we need to restart?
[14:50] <mbeierl> Simooon: found this, but I don't know if there is a better way that directly editing dconf in the later versions: http://askubuntu.com/questions/521423/how-can-i-disable-altclick-window-dragging
[14:50] <Castor_Troy> sorry, my internet is a bit spotty.
[14:50] <Castor_Troy> was my previous questoin answered?
[14:51] <mbeierl> Castor_Troy: no, it was not, and the answer would be ... "it depends"
[14:51] <mbeierl> Castor_Troy: unless there is some form of modification to the kernel that cannot be applied to the running kernel, you should *not* require a reboot
[14:52] <Simooon> mbeierl,  okay, thanks, will look into that :-)
[14:52] <Castor_Troy> mbeierl, I tried installing a .deb file from https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/releases/tag/53.0.2785.116-1.1 Its a customized chromium, i ran the sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb and the installation went fine... but i cant find the shortcut in launcher
[14:53] <mbeierl> Simooon: that is basically what the UI that I was pointing to does, so it should work from that same dconf cli or UI directly.
[14:53] <Simooon> mbeierl,  Great :-)
[14:54] <mbeierl> Castor_Troy: again, I think this is a "it depends" scenario.  The author of that particular package may have made an assumption about the window manager that does not apply to your environment, so the launcher shortcut may fail to register.
[14:54] <Castor_Troy> mbeierl, is there a path i can check if they are installed fine? like program files for windows, what is the path in xubuntu ?
[14:54] <mbeierl> Castor_Troy: Note: I can only provide ideas about what went wrong, not necessarily how to fix it :(
[14:55] <mbeierl> Castor_Troy: when .deb packages are installed, the full set of files gets registered in a system db.  You can see all of what got installed with "dpkg -L <name of package>"
[14:56] <mbeierl> Castor_Troy: so something like "dpkg -L xenial_chromium-l10n" might provide what you are looking for
[14:57] <mbeierl> or xenial_chromedriver, etc...  I don't know which you installed
[14:57] <Castor_Troy> ok
[14:58] <mbeierl> Castor_Troy: from the looks of the site, it might also not be "officially supported", meaning it is possible you found a bug in it :)
[14:58] <Castor_Troy> i installed xenial_chromium_53.0.2785.116-1_amd64, but no packages found
[14:58] <Castor_Troy> ok mbeierl, i will try to figure it out..
[14:58] <Castor_Troy> thanks
[14:59] <mbeierl> Castor_Troy: "dpkg -l | grep xenial_chromium" - will list all package names that were installed that match that pattern
[14:59] <mbeierl> Castor_Troy: note - the version is not part of the dpkg name, it is registered independently in the DB
[15:00] <Climber> anyone have experience with nic bonding?
[15:00] <JokersChild> Nope, Sry
[15:00] <Castor_Troy> "dpkg -l | grep xenial_chromium" gave nothing
[15:00] <mbeierl> Castor_Troy: what command did you use to install the .deb?
[15:00] <Castor_Troy> but i searched for chromium
[15:00] <Castor_Troy> and got an entry
[15:01] <Castor_Troy> ii  chromium                                    53.0.2785.116-1                                             amd64        web browser
[15:01] <Castor_Troy> ii  chromium                                    53.0.2785.116-1                                             amd64        web browser
[15:01] <Castor_Troy> so, how to run it ?
[15:01] <OerHeks> Castor_Troy, maybe it does not come with a starter, see ' which chromium-browser '
[15:02] <JokersChild> export to sandbox for test ,
[15:02] <JokersChild> if avail
[15:02] <Castor_Troy> which chromium-browser didnt return anything
[15:02] <OerHeks> so you need to make a starter, and it is unsupported, still you want support, funny
[15:02] <Castor_Troy> OerHeks, I remember it worked on Ubuntu. I switched to Ubuntu now and cant figure out how to run it
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> Castor_Troy  and 'chromium-webbrowser'
[15:02] <mbeierl> Castor_Troy: also dpkg -L chromium (from the looks of it) will show everything that got installed.  From that you could grep for chromium-browser and see where it got put?
[15:02] <Palm_premium> Castor_Troy: Try "dpkg -l chromium" that will list all files installed by the package, check if there is a bin directory
[15:02] <OerHeks> yeah, unsupported.
[15:03] <Castor_Troy> MonkeyDust, The program 'chromium-browser' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[15:03] <Castor_Troy> mbeierl, I looked for chromium and got two entires that i pasted above
[15:03] <OerHeks> i think it should never work, chromium-browser is @ 54.x ..
[15:03] <catbadger> so I killed my sound.
[15:04] <Castor_Troy> OerHeks, the versoin i am trying to install is customized, not the one from chromium, i guess its a fork
[15:04] <mbeierl> Castor_Troy: I see this from the .deb contents: /usr/bin/chromium.  I'd say that looks like a launcher
[15:04] <catbadger> anyone here good with jack and pulseaudio?
[15:04] <catbadger> I'm unsure what I need to do to configure my sound
[15:04] <Castor_Troy> ok. I will try to install again, what command should i use? Shall i use sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb ?
[15:05] <catbadger> I think the way I want it to work is alsa and jack... can I do that without pulseaudio? it seems like pulse is blocking jack
[15:05] <catbadger> I just reinstalled my sound. I have sound, but no jack sound
[15:05] <mbeierl> Castor_Troy: there are two different -l / -L options.  I was suggesting looking at the dpkg -L chromium because that is what the .deb called itself and wanted to see the contents 'inside' (-L), not the list of all installed software (-l)
[15:05] <catbadger> anywy anyone who can and wants to help me, PM me. I'm at work
[15:06] <Castor_Troy> mbeierl, I ran that command and it gave several entries
[15:06] <Castor_Troy> one of them is /usr/bin/chromium
[15:06] <Castor_Troy> it worked...
[15:06] <mbeierl> Castor_Troy: so /usr/bin is a very standard executable installation directory
[15:06] <Castor_Troy> i ran /usr/bin/chromium from terminal
[15:07] <Castor_Troy> Thanks mbeierl...
[15:07] <Castor_Troy> Linux is fascinating
[15:07] <Castor_Troy> Its a good thing I have a sepearate /home partitin, I dont have to configure stuff again and again
[15:07] <Castor_Troy> all my bookmarks, extensions are there
[15:08] <mbeierl> Castor_Troy: it is designed somewhat differently than Windows as far as data, settings, programs, etc, segregation goes, so, ya.  It's "better" imho :)
[15:09] <Castor_Troy> thanks a ton mbeierl
[15:09] <nicorockie> ???
[15:09] <ThePhoenix47> nicorockie: Error ID-10-T: Too many questions and no answers. Perhaps you're a politician?
[15:09] <nicorockie> hi??
[15:10] <mbeierl> Castor_Troy: glad I could help.  Made me feel like I've done *something* useful today ...
[15:10] <Castor_Troy> ok then, dinner time, catch you all later.
[15:10] <Castor_Troy> good day mbeierl
[15:11] <nicorockie> has any body build tomcat?
[15:11] <nicorockie> i need help
[15:11] <nicorockie> nice to meet you
[15:11] <nicorockie> Castor
[15:12] <niytro> hi all
[15:14] <OerHeks> nicorockie, why build it, as it is our repos
[15:14] <OerHeks> !find tomcat8
[15:15] <mikk94> hey guys, can you hlep me out, something really nasty happened with my machine after upgrade, I can't even figure what happened
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> mikk94  then describe the syptoms
[15:15] <niytro> I did a 16.10 full disk encryption installation with UEFI, made a keyfile on a usb drive, added to luks keys and edited crypttab to point to the keyfile with keyscript=/lib/cryptsetup/scripts/passdev and now the crypt volume unlocks with the usb plugged in on boot but it also says adds a start job that takes a minute and a half to complete for some reason, can I get rid of this? it makes boot very long
[15:16] <nicorockie> i want debug it step by step
[15:16] <mikk94> 1. after I rebooted my system, at the user login prompt I found out that no USB device are working, even usb keyboard aren't recognized
[15:16] <nicorockie> to understand it how it work
[15:16] <mikk94> 2. i've connected ps/2 keyboard and managed to log into, then I found out that almost everything do not work. no usb devices, no network devices, no graphic
[15:17] <mikk94> 3. lsmod is half empty, it should be at least twice as long... dmesg shows no errors, 16.04, 4.4 kernel
[15:17] <mikk94> i've tried to fallback to 4.2 but it didn't help, sympthoms are the same
[15:18] <mikk94> i've spent a few hours trying to figure out, the basic idea is that kernel do not load modules for some reason...
[15:18] <ioria> mikk94, you upgraded from what to what ?
[15:19] <mikk94> ioria: it wasn't a big upgrade.. I just have been doing "apt-get upgrade" from time to time without resetting my system
[15:19] <ioria> mikk94, uname -r ?
[15:19] <mikk94> and then the time has come to reset.. i think the kernel got updated from 4.2 to 4.4, I haven't reset my PC for a few months
[15:20] <ioria> mikk94, 4.2 is wily 4.4 xenial
[15:20] <mikk94> right now, I booted into grub recovery using 4.2 kernel
[15:20] <mikk94> but the latest available is 4.4
[15:20] <ioria> mikk94, cat /etc/issue
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> mikk94  what's the output of   uname -r
[15:21] <mikk94> etc-issue: 16.04 LTS \n \l
[15:21] <mikk94> uname -r: 4.2.0-42-generic
[15:21] <mikk94> but it
[15:21] <ioria> mikk94,  you made an upgrade from wily to xenial
[15:21] <younder> mikk94, Haven't reset the PC for a FEW months :) do yo update?
[15:22] <mikk94> it's just because I choose 4.2 in grub options, i've two available kernels in my sstem: 4.2.0-42 and 4.4.0-36
[15:22] <mikk94> yes, I did "apt get update" every time before "upgrade" is it matters
[15:22] <ioria> mikk94,  and when you select 4.4 ?
[15:23] <younder> mikk94, But xenial started with a 4.4
[15:23] <mikk94> ioria: 4.4 is the one that the system boot into by default
[15:23] <ioria> mikk94,  can you login gui or console  when you boot the 4.4 kernel ?
[15:23] <mikk94> don't mind 4.2, I just tried to fallback to find out whether it fix my problem
[15:24] <mikk94> ioria: yes, sure, I'll do it right now
[15:24] <ioria> mikk94,  can you login gui or console  when you boot the 4.4 kernel ?
[15:24] <ioria> mikk94,  ok,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:24] <mikk94> ioria: I can start xfce4 but it'll start in 640x480 resolution
[15:24] <ioria> mikk94,  first boot the 4.4 kernel
[15:24] <mikk94> ioria: and.. I do not have network on that machine
[15:25] <mikk94> ioria: network driver isn't loaded, i mean eth0 interface is missing
[15:25] <mikk94> as well as most of the other device drivers
[15:25] <ioria> mikk94,  4.4 recovery mode ?
[15:25] <mikk94> ioria: I just rebooted my machine and got straight into 4.4 standard mode
[15:26] <mikk94> recovery mode didn't seem to have any visible changes
[15:26] <mikk94> i mean, i've tried a few options from that list and nothing worked
[15:26] <OerHeks> eth0 is missing .. that explains, with sytstemD comes predictable interface naming
[15:26] <ioria> mikk94,  so, now in 4.4, you don't have connectivity ?
[15:26] <mikk94> ioria: yeah, exactly...
[15:27] <OerHeks> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[15:27] <OerHeks> ifconfig will show ens0 something i bet
[15:27] <ioria> mikk94,  can you open NM and check your settings ?
[15:27] <mikk94> OerHeks: ifconfig shows only loopback interface
[15:27] <ioria> mikk94,  i assume you are using NM ?
[15:27] <mikk94> ioria: what is NM, sorry?
[15:27] <ioria> mikk94, Network manager
[15:27] <younder> there is no full-update
[15:28] <ioria> younder, full-upgrade
[15:28] <mikk94> ioria: ahh.. no, my usb mouse doesn't even work cause it's usb
[15:28] <Castor_Troy> is it possible to install a .deb including its dependencies
[15:28] <mikk94> no usb devices are also worked, so i can only use keyboard (mostly console)
[15:28] <ioria> mikk94,  ok, we try with 4.2 kernel then
[15:29] <ioria> mikk94,  reboot with that
[15:29] <mikk94> ioria: i've already tried 4.2, the sympthoms are the same
[15:29] <mikk94> looks like kernel doesn't involved in that, there's have to be something else
[15:29] <younder> do uou use UEFI?
[15:30] <ioria> mikk94,  livecd then, very odd
[15:30] <mikk94> younder: my motherboard supports it.. so yeah..
[15:31] <mikk94> ioria: i don't have much idea what to do from livecd.. but looks like that's the only option left..
[15:31] <younder> mikk94, Yes, but you have to explicitly use it and it can cause problems with graphics drivers.
[15:31] <mikk94> can I manually modprobe network driver somehow?
[15:31] <ioria> mikk94,  boot a livecd, bind mount the critical fs, and run the update/upgrade
[15:32] <ioria> mikk94,  in chroot, i mean
[15:32] <mikk94> when I run "apt-get install" in my system
[15:32] <nacc> Castor_Troy: gdebi, or open with the software center tool (iirc)
[15:32] <Imjustatest> hey there, ive got a quick question about persistence. Is this the riht place to ask?
[15:32] <mikk94> it shows 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[15:33] <ioria> mikk94,  can you run sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:33] <ioria> mikk94,  you said no connectivity
[15:33] <mikk94> ioria: there's no connectivity, it just what it shows even without network
[15:34] <itay2> oerheks or nacc?
[15:34] <nacc> itay2: yes?
[15:34] <ioria> mikk94,  what do you use cable or wifi ? you can bring up the nic via command line
[15:34] <itay2> I uploaded the video we talked about yesterday
[15:34] <lbracher> EriC^^, I found a similar story with a solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/726052/ubuntu-booting-in-insecure-mode-with-secureboot-enabled
[15:34] <mikk94> ioria: i have only cable network adapter
[15:34] <itay2> here it is : https://youtu.be/_6YDdaB8RBg
[15:35] <mikk94> i wish I could manually load the driver so it shows at my system
[15:35] <akik> mikk94: have you tried resetting your bios?
[15:36] <mikk94> akik: it always has default settings, I set it up to default some time ago and never changed it since then
[15:36] <ioria> mikk94,   lspci -k | grep Eth -A 4
[15:37] <mikk94> ioria: hmm.. i can't copy paste the full output, but it shows: 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek... RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Eth (rev 06)
[15:37] <ioria> mikk94,   look at Kernel driver in use:
[15:38] <younder> so a standard ethernet onboard install. That is NOT the problem or you wouldn't be talking to use
[15:38] <mikk94> lsmod | grep eth - returns nothing
[15:38] <ioria> mikk94,   look at Kernel driver in use:
[15:38] <mikk94> ioria: there's no such string
[15:39] <mikk94> ioria: some other records have it, but this one isn't
[15:39] <ioria> mikk94,   you should have r8169
[15:40] <mikk94> ioria: Last string: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. P8P67 and other motherboards
[15:40] <younder> lbacher: yes I boot in insecure mode until NVIDIA get's it cat together
[15:40] <younder> s/cat/act/
[15:40] <ioria> mikk94,   you should tell us something more about your machine then ...
[15:41] <mikk94> ioria: what info do you think is important? my machine is pretty simple, nothing too unusual
[15:41] <younder> No system string is pretty unusual
[15:42] <mikk94> yeah, I don't have that line: Kernel driver in use, why could it happens?
[15:42] <mikk94> maybe something blacklisted it for some reason or..
[15:42] <OerHeks> @ 8.20 the system error, garbled error in the top left corner. login sequence.. system error again, really odd
[15:43] <akik> mikk94: have you tried booting a live dvd/live session?
[15:43] <ioria> mikk94,  try     sudo lshw -C Network | grep driver
[15:43] <mikk94> there's at least should be a line in dmesg, why driver failed to load but there's nothing
[15:43] <mikk94> ioria: no such line
[15:44] <Chezaray> How do i install the desktop on the bash terminal
[15:44] <mikk94> ioria: although the full output shows the product: RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Ethernet Controller, it can see my network card but something wrong with it's driver
[15:45] <ioria> mikk94,  try to load it :    sudo modprobe r8169
[15:45] <mikk94> FATAL: Module r8169 not found in dir /lib/modules/4.4.0-36-generic
[15:45] <mikk94> uname -a: 4.4.0-36-generic
[15:46] <younder> OK we are getting somewhere
[15:46] <ioria> mikk94,  locate r8169
[15:46] <Chezaray> how do i check the files i have installed on bash
[15:46] <xock_stream> help me please
[15:47] <younder> Chezaray, I don't understand the question
[15:47] <xock_stream> I ran command to update but I don't know if it do something. Is there a command I ran to see what it does?
[15:47] <mikk94> ioria: cd / && locate r8169 -- only shows a three headers
[15:47] <xock_stream> or a tool
[15:47] <nacc> xock_stream: what command did you run?
[15:47] <mikk94> ../usr/src/linux-headers-4.4.0-36-generic/include/config/r8169.h
[15:48] <mikk94> and few others in 4.4.0-xx directories
[15:48] <ioria> mikk94,  you should have this : /lib/modules/4.4.0-45-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/realtek/r8169.ko
[15:48] <xock_stream> nacc, update system
[15:48] <mikk94> ioria: should it be present on every ubuntu system?
[15:48] <nacc> xock_stream: that's not a command
[15:48] <itay2> nacc, Oerheks so now you see after looking at the video ?
[15:48] <ioria> mikk94,  yep
[15:48] <ioria> mikk94,  with your kernel
[15:48] <nacc> itay2: what crashes during the install?
[15:48] <nacc> !pm | xock_stream
[15:48] <younder> xock_stream, Update just updates a file of repositories and files. You need 'sudo apt upgrade' to update the system
[15:49] <itay2> you can see in the video, i don't know (i know as much as shown in the video)
[15:49] <xock_stream> younder: it's command built in
[15:49] <ioria> mikk94,  at this point, you need connectivity, and reinstall the kernel
[15:49] <xock_stream> i will ask in other channel, cheers :)
[15:49] <Chezaray> i want to know how to look at the directory
[15:49] <younder> xock_stream, yes
[15:49] <mikk94> in that folder /net/ethernet/realtek, I see only two files: 8139cp.ko and 8139too.ko
[15:49] <mikk94> looks like something is missing for some reason
[15:50] <nacc> Chezaray: look at *what* directory? you're phrasing it very vaguely, we have no idea the context
[15:50] <ioria> mikk94,  boot a livecd,  update, upgrade and if not working, reinstall the kernel
[15:50] <mikk94> ioria: ok, thanks! I'll try that
[15:50] <xock_stream> younder: is everything ok?
[15:51] <nacc> xock_stream: what *exact* command did you run?
[15:51] <xock_stream> update-remnux
[15:51] <ioria> mikk94,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[15:51] <nacc> xock_stream: so you're not on ubuntu and asking on the ubuntu support channel?
[15:52] <xock_stream> this distro is based on ubuntu
[15:52] <xock_stream> that*
[15:52] <nacc> xock_stream: doesn't matter, it's *not* ubuntu, afaict
[15:52] <xock_stream> :/
[15:52] <xock_stream> k
[15:52] <xock_stream> But no tool or command I can check?
[15:52] <mikk94> ioria: it's gonna be a little difficult cause I don't have cdrom.. probably have to burn it to usb somehow...
[15:52] <Chezaray> you know like in windows how you see your /c drive  folder I want to know how the access the apps i have
[15:53] <nacc> Chezaray: that's not how it works in Linux -- you want to run an application from the terminal?
[15:53] <nacc> Chezaray: it's most likely just in your path from the terminal, just run the program by name
[15:53] <ioria> mikk94,  usb as well
[15:53] <xock_stream> NO one know?
[15:53] <mikk94> ioria: can you please check if you have this file (r8169.ko) in 4.4.0-36-generic?
[15:54] <ioria> mikk94,  yes, on 4.4.0-45
[15:54] <TomEOS5D2> hello all!
[15:54] <nacc> xock_stream: you're asking in the wrong place, you should ask the renmux folks
[15:54] <ioria> mikk94,  but it's the same on 36
[15:55] <Chezaray> not run the program i want look  at the /root and /est4  folders to see why i cant assess the desktop
[15:55] <xock_stream> nacc: I asked if there is command or tool to check if it updating the system or do something
[15:55] <nacc> Chezaray: ok, so what you actually want to do is that. Why not just ask that? So you aren't able to access the desktop?
[15:55] <nacc> xock_stream: the script you are referring to, is not an Ubuntu script. Ask remnux what it does!
[15:56] <younder> The first time I have hard of remnux
[15:56] <xock_stream> heard*
[15:56] <mikk94> ioria: can't you please also tell what does it mean: the following packages have been kept back: linux-headers-generic
[15:56] <xock_stream> And I am not nazi
[15:56] <Chezaray> i was trying to do that
[15:56] <ioria> mikk94,  you ran upgrade, if you run dist-upgrade it will install it
[15:56] <mikk94> ioria: is it important? can it have something to do with my problems?
[15:56] <younder> xock_stream: ?? OK
[15:57] <nacc> younder: they pm'd me that i'm not very nice and then ragequit
[15:57] <mikk94> ioria: ah, yeah, okay, dist-upgrade, will do that
[15:57] <ioria> mikk94,  where are you running this command, if you don't have onnectivity ?
[15:57] <mikk94> ioria: these commands do not need connectivity in order to run them
[15:57] <mikk94> but they'll complain after like
[15:57] <ioria> mikk94,  oh, from your cache ?
[15:57] <mikk94> "couldn't connect to the server"
[15:57] <nacc> Chezaray: are you asking for the `ls` command? How much do you know about using the shell?
[15:57] <mikk94> yeah
[15:58] <ioria> mikk94,  no, you need internet
[15:58] <mikk94> ioria: yeah.. I guess so.. I thought I could avoid running live cd but looks like I can't
[15:58] <younder> xock_stream: the generally don't like that 'help me' bit. There are a lot of people with problematic systems here.
[15:58] <mikk94> It's going to be the first time I happen to use it
[15:59] <nacc> younder: they have quit; and it's not 'help me' that is a problem. xock_stream was not using ubuntu and wanted support here for their distribution.
[15:59] <Chezaray> not that much i not how to download the programs and assess them through the gui
[15:59] <ioria> mikk94,  you used it, when you installed ubuntu
[15:59] <nacc> Chezaray: so you installed something and can no longer access your desktop?
[16:00] <mikk94> ioria: I installed it by network from an image
[16:00] <mikk94> there's some advanced network future at my work
[16:00] <younder> nacc: OK now I get it
[16:00] <mikk94> *feature
[16:01] <mikk94> ioria: okay, thanks very much for support, I have to plug out my network cable from my Windows machine (where I am right now) and plug it back to ubuntu PC to run these commands...
[16:02] <Chezaray> yeah i think so i m trying this  bash beta on windows to get the desktop since the os always gets deleted
[16:02] <nacc> Chezaray: um, the bash beta on windows doesn't let you have an ubuntu desktop (afaik)
[16:02] <nacc> !ubuwin | Chezaray
[16:03] <nacc> Chezaray: 'always get deleted'? Again, I feel like you're not giving full information
[16:03] <younder> Chezaray, WTF are you talking about. The OS always get's DELETED?
[16:03] <TomEOS5D2> hello i need help please
[16:04] <nacc> !help | TomEOS5D2
[16:04] <TomEOS5D2> can't get ubuntu live to run on my system - think it is the GTX 1060
[16:04] <younder> TomEOS5D2, yes
[16:05] <xock_stream> There is command update-distro and I want to see where the file is. How to do that?
[16:05] <Chezaray> when i installed the ubuntu os on my old computer some how when the pc is turned off the os stopped working
[16:05] <younder> TomEOS5D2, you need the latest NVIDIA driver
[16:05] <nacc> xock_stream: `which update-distro`. But again, that is *not* ubuntu
[16:05] <TomEOS5D2> no way to install anything it does not even boot. See here:
[16:05] <TomEOS5D2> https://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/16-04-64bit-image-bootet-nicht-richtig-auf-hp-/
[16:05] <xock_stream> nacc: it was hard to answer?
[16:06] <ioria> TomEOS5D2, try with   nomodeset   or disable Secure Boot
[16:06] <nacc> xock_stream: you never asked that question, you asked what update-distro does
[16:06] <xock_stream> Right
[16:06] <TomEOS5D2> nomodeset xforcevesa evrything tried about 10 times
[16:06] <xock_stream> thanks...
[16:06] <xock_stream> :)
[16:06] <xock_stream> I tried whereis, whatis and it didn't work
[16:08] <TomEOS5D2> ubuntuusers.de community have no more ideas
[16:08] <TomEOS5D2> though that is a big community
[16:09] <younder> TomEOS5D2, Do you use UEFI?
[16:09] <TomEOS5D2> does the gainward / palit card need a special way of installing
[16:09] <TomEOS5D2> ?
[16:09] <TomEOS5D2> palit GTX 1060
[16:10] <Chezaray> i was wondering why did the windows os stopped the ubuntu os from working on my old laptop
[16:10] <younder> TomEOS5D2, UEFI can cause problems. You will need to disable kernel checking on boot
[16:10] <ioria> TomEOS5D2, rdblacklist=nouveau nouveau.modeset=0     or   nouveau.blacklist=1
[16:11] <TomEOS5D2> blacklisted the nouveau already did not help
[16:11] <ioria> TomEOS5D2,  but  also try to disable Secure Boot
[16:11] <younder> ioria, noveaux is crap in the 1000 series
[16:12] <TomEOS5D2> I ll look into secure boot though I am not sure if the bios of that hp workstation does have that option at all
[16:12] <k1l> TomEOS5D2: radeon is not related to the nvidia cards
[16:12] <ioria> TomEOS5D2, 16.04 or 16.10 ?
[16:12] <itay2> nacc, Oerheks what should I do after you've watched the video?
[16:13] <TomEOS5D2> tried both - both 1604 and 16.10 start to black screen on the hp workstation although the usb stick is able to boot up my old laptop
[16:14] <ioria> TomEOS5D2, your old lap does not have 1060, i suppose
[16:14] <younder> TomEOS5D2, http://askubuntu.com/questions/760934/graphics-issues-after-while-installing-ubuntu-16-04-with-nvidia-graphics
[16:16] <TomEOS5D2> tried even that CTRL ALT F1 to get to text console but did not work
[16:18] <ioria> TomEOS5D2, if Sec Bot not working, nomodeset not working, i'd try the server edition (text based) and after i'll deal with the gui
[16:18] <younder> I need ESC. Consult your hardware manual. If you don't have one it is probably available online.
[16:18] <nacc> itay2: you didn't answer my question?
[16:19] <imran-ubuntu> hi
[16:19] <TomEOS5D2> sever edition is text based? that is way a good idea. then I can deal with the drivers on command line, right?
[16:19] <itay2> nacc i don't know what crashes, it says unstable program or something like that
[16:19] <itay2> unstable system program
[16:20] <moj0e> #faraday-dev
[16:20] <ioria> TomEOS5D2, or try to remove quiet splash  (with nomodeset included) silly, but can work
[16:21] <imran-ubuntu> Can i install Budgie in Ubuntu 16.10 with hosing it
[16:22] <ioria> TomEOS5D2, yes
[16:22] <k1l> imran-ubuntu: install budgie-desktop package on 16.10
[16:22] <TomEOS5D2> quiet splash removing i did not try so far - if during boot I usually get the splashscreen but then after that  screen going black - is there any point in trying to remove quiet splash?
[16:23] <ioria> TomEOS5D2, you get some infos
[16:23] <nacc> itay2: in a kvm guest, with the same iso file, it goes right to the installer. You *never* mentioned before a system program error was detected. Did you not think that was relevant?
[16:23] <itay2> i did mention, several times
[16:24] <TomEOS5D2> you mean the scrolling text? I get that too by pressing ESC during splashscreen
[16:24] <ioria> TomEOS5D2, yes
[16:24] <nacc> itay2: you said you get that *after* logging in
[16:24] <nacc> itay2: but you actually get it *before*
[16:25] <itay2> nope i did not
[16:25] <itay2> ah wait yes i do
[16:25] <younder> TomEOS5D2, no. It is probable a problem with you driver. There are two parts to that driver. A part that need to be recompiled each time you install a kernel and a .ko obcect which is loaded on statup. The two are out of sync
[16:25] <nacc> yes, i'm watching your video
[16:25] <itay2> but it appeared and disappeared so short i did not notice it
[16:25] <itay2> normally i did not notice it
[16:25] <TomEOS5D2> on hat same machine if i put in partemagic live, it will boot until a blue line that says "setting up system devices..." - then it will freeze - is that any clue?
[16:25] <nacc> itay2: so you should probably drop to a shell (i think ctrl + alt + f1 may work) and debug what is crashing
[16:25] <nacc> itay2: i'm guessing some hardware/driver issue, but dunno
[16:26] <imran-ubuntu> it wont damage my unity deskptop right
[16:26] <nacc> itay2: you said you saw similar problems with all distros, right? so maybe your hardware isn't supported?
[16:26] <nacc> itay2: i would guess graphics, but no idea without logs
[16:26] <itay2> i have nvidia gtx 980
[16:26] <nacc> itay2: boot into the 'try ubuntu' version, and run `dmesg | pastebinit`
[16:30] <TomEOS5D2> thatks all for your help
[16:30] <TomEOS5D2> thanks
[16:30] <ioria> np
[16:30] <younder> TomEOS5D2, Can you boot into text mode. Ctrl-Alt-F1 after boot
[16:31] <TomEOS5D2> no that CTRLALTF1 doesn t work - no idie why not
[16:31] <MarGul> in vsFTPd I have chroot_local_user=YES , I have created a user with useradd test. Trying to set the password with passwd test. Says that I change my password successfully but when trying to FTP in says incorrect login. Something more I need to do?
[16:34] <itay2> Nacc http://paste.ubuntu.com/23360213
[16:34] <ioria> MarGul, under that, try to add   allow_writeable_chroot=YES  and restart the service
[16:35] <MarGul> ioria, In my vsftpd.conf I guess? I'll try that.
[16:35] <ioria> MarGul, sure
[16:38] <MarGul> ioria, That didn't work unfortunately :/
[16:38] <nacc> itay2: seems like a couple of errors with the graphics reported, i wonder if passing nouveau.modeset=0 or one of the other related kernel parameters would help, I have little experience with nvidia, sorry
[16:38] <ioria> MarGul, can you connect with the main user ?
[16:39] <MarGul> yes
[16:39] <itay2> Who can help..?
[16:39] <nacc> itay2: do you get to a desktop then, if you say 'try ubuntu' ?
[16:40] <younder> itay2, You'r in need of help now?
[16:41] <ioria> MarGul, so the issue is with your new user ...
[16:41] <itay2> Nacc no. Its the same situation as before
[16:41] <ioria> MarGul,  try to create another one with adduser (not useradd)
[16:42] <MarGul> ioria, Yes. I have created it with useradd and then passwd. Then done a usermod -d /test/test -s /sbin/nologin
[16:42] <younder> itay2, sorry a neccesary reboot has kept me from seeing yor question. Could you rephrase your concern.
[16:42] <MarGul> ioria, going to try that.
[16:42] <ioria> MarGul,  wait
[16:43] <ioria> MarGul,  you don't want login for that user, right ?
[16:43] <nacc> itay2: where did you get the dmesg output from?
[16:43] <MarGul> No I just want it to be able to login by FTP and only have access to it's HOME folder which I will set to a custom folder like /test/customer
[16:43] <ioria> MarGul,  --disabled-login    , read man adduser
[16:43] <itay2> Yonder nacc says he dont know how to solve nvidia problems... so i asked for help in general from someone who does
[16:44] <itay2> Nacc i pressd ctrl alt f1
[16:44] <nacc> itay2: do you have both an intel graphics card and an nvidia card?
[16:44] <ioria> MarGul,  by deafult adduser, enable the login
[16:44] <ioria> *s
[16:45] <younder> ioria2, well I use NVIDIA for what it's worth
[16:45] <nacc> itay2: when you pick 'try ubuntu' it takes you to a login prompt?
[16:46] <itay2> Nacc : nacc yes. Im unsure regarding intel gfx
[16:46] <MarGul> ioria, Adding the user with adduser worked. Just going to read the man pages and make sure they can't login with say ssh
[16:46] <ioria> MarGul, ok
[16:47] <MarGul> thanks for the help
[16:47] <ioria> MarGul, np
[16:47] <nacc> itay2: you could try booting without nouveau support (first) -- do you know how to modify your kernel boot parameters?
[16:47] <misterpink> how to use set -command DISPLAY to undefine it?
[16:47] <nacc> misterpink: `unset`
[16:48] <misterpink> nacc: thanks
[16:48] <itay2> Nacc nope...
[16:50] <vaesper> can someone tell me why the download websites for ubuntu and ubuntu gnome dont support https?
[16:51] <jatt> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[16:52] <craptalk> does anyone already try ubuntu kernel live patch?
[16:53] <vaesper> jatt: was that for me?
[16:55] <nacc> itay2: it seems like the 'easiest' way for changing the live usb's boot is to open it in windows (i think that's your other os), open USB\syslinux.cfg (I think that's file the name), it will contain a stanza like 'Try Ubuntu without installing'; modify the append line that corresponds to have 'nouveau.modeset=0' at the end, save and reboot back to the usb?
[16:56] <itay2> Alright thx will try
[16:58] <nacc> itay2: ah it's easier! sorry
[16:58] <nacc> itay2: boot from usb, in the 'ubuntu' menu (where it says try ubuntu without installing)hit f6
[16:59] <nacc> it should pop up the boot options line, add 'nouveau.modeset=0' there
[16:59] <itay2> Ok will try
[17:00] <Guest40923> ui
[17:04] <xock_stream> If there is log updated to file and I do sudo watch _file_ is it bad?
[17:04] <xock_stream> Bad because can it be conflicts that file won't updated?
[17:04] <glyph_> Hello, I don't know if this is the channel to ask this question (if not please redirect to the correct channel). I am trying to install ubuntu on my windows 7 laptop (already downloaded ubuntu to a bootable flash drive), however when I go to disk fragment to shrink the volume of my hard drive it doesn't allow me (the shrink option is greyed out). Is this a common issue and is there a third party software that could perform this?
[17:05] <xock_stream> glyph_, windows question
[17:05] <EriC^> glyph_: try to defragment the disk first
[17:05] <xock_stream> What is disk fragment? Can't you use disk management?
[17:06] <TomEOS5D2> hello first defrag in windows then shrunk using gparted
[17:06] <TomEOS5D2> shrink
[17:06] <nacc> xock_stream: are you asking if `watch` somehow opens the file exclusively or something? `watch` does not open the file for writing at all
[17:07] <xock_stream> nacc: I want to see the file because it gets updated.
[17:07] <glyph_> Thanks, I will perform these tasks. Hopefully, I will be running ubuntu today!
[17:08] <nacc> xock_stream: yes, that's what watch allows you to do
[17:08] <EriC^^> glyph_: defragment and shrink it in windows, then reboot into it a couple times so its bootloader knows of any changes, then install ubuntu
[17:08] <xock_stream> I ran update-remnux and in another terminal cat or watch (i will try these out) but I want to make sure that it will not open in read mode
[17:08] <xock_stream> writing*
[17:08] <xock_stream> not read....
[17:09] <nacc> xock_stream: both cat and watch open files in read-mode
[17:09] <xock_stream> thanks
[17:09] <xock_stream> it says permission denied
[17:09] <xock_stream> Is there a command to see the latest updated lines?
[17:10] <nacc> xock_stream: tail?
[17:10] <xock_stream> (continue) instead of displaying with cat everytime?
[17:10] <nacc> xock_stream: `tail -f` probably
[17:10] <ioria> xock_stream, have you tried tail -f ?
[17:10] <xock_stream> no
[17:10] <nacc> xock_stream: but you still would need read permission on the file you are trying to follow
[17:10] <ioria> that's for sure
[17:11] <xock_stream> I am doing sudo watch tail /var/log/remnux-install.log
[17:11] <ioria> -f
[17:11] <nacc> uh
[17:11] <nacc> xock_stream: no -- watch and tail are both commandes
[17:11] <ioria> just tail -f /path
[17:11] <nacc> xock_stream: i don't think you need to combine them
[17:11] <xock_stream> I see
[17:13] <xock_stream> it works :)
[17:13] <xock_stream> I need to sharp my linux skills
[17:13] <SomeJuan> anyone here familiar with sshd notty?
[17:13] <SomeJuan> http://www.sysadminworld.com/2011/ps-aux-shows-sshd-rootnotty/
[17:14] <SomeJuan> for some reason notty pings to an external ip address tho
[17:14] <xock_stream> SomeJuan: question?
[17:14] <SomeJuan> wonder why
[17:15] <nacc> SomeJuan: that's highly dependent on your system (`ping notty` doing something) and network, I'd guess? Also that article is quite old and isn't true in the latest releases (afaict)
[17:16] <ikonia> I don't see anything in that article thats doing anything
[17:16] <ikonia> SomeJuan: if you do ps -ef | grep notty what do you see ?
[17:16] <xock_stream> If you are still wondering on what is going on you might want to check the output of ps auxf to see a tree of processes or run netstat -vatn to examine all TCP connections.
[17:17] <SomeJuan> --- ---- --- ----- sshd: user@notty
[17:17] <ikonia> SomeJuan: what's all the --- lines ?
[17:17] <SomeJuan> and a branch the goes below that to openssh
[17:17] <nacc> SomeJuan: what version of ubuntu?
[17:18] <SomeJuan> 16.04
[17:18] <ikonia> I'd first want to know what "notty" resolves to
[17:18] <ikonia> and why "root" is being used
[17:18] <ikonia> more so as the root account is locked
[17:19] <SomeJuan> 1 sec let me take a look at the output
[17:21] <mikk94> helloo again...
[17:21] <mikk94> I just booted with live cd, did "sudo apt-get update && dist-upgrade"
[17:21] <nacc> ikonia: yeah that webpage (afaict) can't be about ubuntu
[17:21] <mikk94> and it didn't help :-(
[17:22] <nacc> SomeJuan: so what are you actually trying to do/resolve?
[17:22] <ioria> mikk94, did you chroot ?
[17:22] <mikk94> ioria: sure...
[17:22] <mikk94> ioria: it updated a few packages
[17:22] <mikk94> ioria: but nothing too important
[17:22] <ioria> mikk94, have reinstalled the kernel ?
[17:23] <mikk94> ioria: no.. how to reinstall it?
[17:23] <ioria> mikk94,  sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[17:23] <ioria> mikk94,  or sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-generic
[17:23] <vaesper> all ubuntu (and official flavour) download links are http, not https. manually changing to https gives error. how can I securely download ubuntu?
[17:23] <SomeJuan> nacc: trying to see how notty got configured to point to external ip, wondering if there's something fishy going on like if I should be concerned about a possible backdoor/rootkit installed on my system?
[17:24] <nacc> SomeJuan: pastebin `nslookup notty` ?
[17:24] <SomeJuan> nacc: nslookup notty returns: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23360437/
[17:24] <mikk94> ioria: wow, looks like it haven't been installed, the first command just worked
[17:24] <SomeJuan> which is the ip address it pings
[17:24] <SomeJuan> wonder how it got setup this way
[17:24] <SomeJuan> or configured in the first place
[17:24] <mikk94> ohh
[17:24] <ioria> mikk94,  ok
[17:24] <vaesper> and "verify with shaX hash" is no solution when those are also downloaded over http :/
[17:24] <mikk94> it sayys this kernel does not support a non-PAE CPU
[17:25] <mikk94> dpkg returned error code(1)
[17:25] <mikk94> grep /proc/cpuinfo failed before that
[17:26] <mikk94> looks like it didn't find /proc/ under chroot while installing
[17:27] <ouroumov_> vaesper, https://www.ubuntu.com/download/how-to-verify
[17:27] <mikk94> should I link /proc somehow before chrooting?
[17:28] <ioria> mikk94,  what cpu do you have ?
[17:29] <ioria> mikk94,  or maybe you haven't bind mount the fs
[17:29] <nacc> vaesper: aiui, https is a red herring here; use gpg to verify the image(s)
[17:29] <mikk94> ioria: i5-2500 x4, standard intel i5 cpu
[17:29] <mikk94> i just did "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/system"
[17:29] <mikk94> and copied resolv.conf into to get the network running
[17:30] <ioria> mikk94, nope
[17:30] <mikk94> did i do something wrong?
[17:31] <ioria> mikk94, you need (as i said ) to bind mount the critical fs : for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[17:31] <mikk94> ioria: oh wow, i missed that point
[17:31] <ioria> mikk94,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[17:32] <nacc> SomeJuan: odd, you could check /etc/hosts to see if it's there
[17:32] <ioria> mikk94,  and not /mnt/system,  just /mnt
[17:33] <ioria> mikk94,  all that, before chroot
[17:34] <vaesper> ouroumov_: nacc: I see, thanks. ubuntu gnome instructions are very bad (tm) though
[17:35] <vaesper> they advise to compare md5sum
[17:35] <vaesper> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME)
[17:36] <SomeJuan> nacc, not there but i added 127.0.0.1 notty just as a precaution
[17:36] <SomeJuan> and i feel safer now
[17:37] <SomeJuan> but still wondering why i had some weird dns configuration in the first place to an external ip address
[17:37] <nacc> SomeJuan: that doesn't seem any better; notty shouldn't resolve to a host
[17:37] <SomeJuan> yeah, i know
[17:37] <SomeJuan> is there a way I can remove or find out where it is configured?
[17:37] <mikk94> ioria: all right, I juse installed it.. /lib/modules/4.4.0-45-generic appeared with a full structure tree inside
[17:38] <mikk94> ioria: is there anything else I better check before rebooting?
[17:38] <ioria> mikk94,  still in chroot ?
[17:38] <nacc> SomeJuan: not sure, are you running a local nameserver?
[17:38] <mikk94> ioria: yyes
[17:38] <ioria> mikk94,   paste sudo update-grub
[17:38] <mikk94> ioria: done. it just found new kernel ...-45
[17:39] <ioria> mikk94,   ok, as you wish, exit
[17:39] <mikk94> okay.. i'll try to boot into system now..
[17:44] <Guest11089> guys, I need some help with playonlinux, there used to be gallium nine available but I can't see it anymore
[17:47] <nubb3> I can't reach ubuntu.com, anyone else?
[17:48] <jatt> works
[17:50] <SomeJuan> nacc, not to my knowledge but i did find out i have an entry in my /etc/resolv.conf that points to 127.0.1.1
[17:51] <nubb3> jatt: thank, it's a bit erratic for me.
[17:51] <jatt> nubb3: what does
[17:51] <jatt> nslookup ubuntu.com
[17:51] <jatt> say?
[17:51] <jatt> !pastebin | nubb3
[17:55] <nubb3> might be temp, seems fine now
[17:55] <nubb3> update didn't reach any server
[17:55] <akik> nubb3: there's a ddos attack going on against a dns hoster
[17:55] <nubb3> and I didn't reach webserver
[17:56] <akik> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12759697
[17:56] <nubb3> might be that since it complained dns resolve but not for acouple of other sites
[17:56] <akik> but exceptionally ubuntu.com loads up here
[17:56] <kodur_k> please help me with with this
[17:56] <kodur_k> Regenerating fonts cache... failed error
[17:56] <kodur_k> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23360553/
[17:56] <mure_> is there a command for getting the total space left on my computer?
[17:57] <ppf> mure_: df -j
[17:57] <ppf> df -h
[17:57] <mure_> ok
[17:57] <mure_> thx ppf!
[17:58] <ppf> kodur_k: See /var/log/fontconfig.log for more information.
[17:59] <kodur_k> ppf it says (Bus Error) Core dumped
[18:01] <ppf> kodur_k: hm, not good
[18:01] <ppf> run sudo dpkg --configure fontconfig in the terminal
[18:01] <ppf> kodur_k: what command did you run to get the output in your paste, btw?
[18:01] <dcz> hello , do you guys have any thesis idea ?
[18:02] <k1l_> dcz: better ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:02] <kodur_k> ppf some of the packages were to be installed, so i ran "sudo apt-get -f install"
[18:02] <ppf> oaky
[18:03] <kodur_k> and after running the command you told, its still showing the same
[18:05] <ppf> kodur_k: what is showing the same?
[18:06] <kodur_k> ppf means the same error which i had posted in the pastebin link
[18:06] <ppf> kodur_k: which command is producing that
[18:06] <ppf> dpkg?
[18:06] <kodur_k> sudo dpkg --configure fontconfig
[18:07] <ppf> okay
[18:07] <ppf> please run sudo dpkg -D200 --configure fontconfig | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:13] <kegan_> how can I disable the CUPS service
[18:15] <copec> Is there a special place to get the igb.ko for linux-image-3.13.0-100-generic
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> !find igb.ko
[18:17] <kegan_> systemctl stop cups.service ok?
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> copec  what's the oupit of    cat /etc/issue
[18:17] <copec> (I have servers on 14.04 still)
[18:17] <kegan_> it'll just restart...
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> output*
[18:17] <copec> Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS \n \l
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> !find igb.ko trusty
[18:18] <copec> ah, why only lowlatency?
[18:19] <EriC^>  it says and 280 others
[18:19] <copec> oh, duh
[18:19] <copec> sorry
[18:19] <rthornton> I am now being affected by this bug:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/1437764
[18:20] <mure_> how do you guys lower the brightness on 14.04?
[18:20] <mure_> any software I can use?
[18:20] <rthornton> so I cant seem to uninstall nor repair apt-get
[18:20] <younder> mure_,  no
[18:21] <younder> mure_,  such an unusual request. You can change the theme thogh and use one a bit darker
[18:21] <mure_> younder, I ment, screen brightness
[18:21] <EriC^> mure_: there's xbacklight
[18:22] <mure_> ok
[18:22] <kodur_k> ppf figured it out with your help, i saw that there was a problem with a file, it was I/O error in that, so my fontconfig was crashing, but the core shouldn't be dumped, that can be exploited, i have reported that issue and hope they fix it at the earliest. Thankyou for your help
[18:23] <copec> thanks Eric^, it was me being dumb, I missed the linux-image-extra package
[18:23] <ioria> mure_, i use this, it'a simple python script https://github.com/lordamit/Brightness
[18:24] <mure_> I don't have python installed but thanks
[18:24] <mure_> I'm going to use xbacklight
[18:24] <EriC^> copec: np, no worries
[18:24] <Pici> mure_: fyi: Ubuntu comes with python installed.
[18:24] <SomeJuan> nacc, i figured it out
[18:24] <ioria> mure_,  you have it, trust me
[18:24] <SomeJuan> nacc, this is what was happening
[18:24] <mure_> oh
[18:24] <SomeJuan> nacc, https://hackercodex.com/guide/how-to-stop-isp-dns-server-hijacking/
[18:24] <mure_> I like how it comes with python but not java nor headers for opengl
[18:24] <mure_> good job ...
[18:25] <SomeJuan> nacc, thanks for responding earlier
[18:25] <ioria> mure_,  maybe you need git to clone the src
[18:25] <mure_> I got that
[18:25] <ioria> ok
[18:25] <Pici> mure_: Python is used to run many of the applications that come with a default install. Those other things don't power anything by default.
[18:25] <ioria> mure_,  but  python-wxgtk2.8 is big, warned
[18:25] <mure_> ok, it makes sens
[18:27] <kegan_> i want to disable cups for good
[18:27] <kegan_> how might i do that without using mask
[18:28] <ioria> sudo systemctl stop cups   sudo syetmctl disable cups
[18:28] <kegan_> ioria: thank you
[18:28] <marcofe> hello all
[18:28] <kegan_> hi friend
[18:39] <danm> Hi, is there a control panel for OpenJDK?
[18:39] <danm> the equivalent of Java Control Panel from Oracle
[18:40] <ioria> policy tool, you mean
[18:43] <abaco> la pazza gioia
[18:43] <uebera||> Hi! Anyone using /usr/share/checksecurity/check-diskfree in conjunction with the new canonical-livepatch service? Since the latter creates two loop mounts ("100% full"), the former always sends out a warning which is... annoying.
[18:49] <satseven> Hello
[18:49] <satseven> hey
[18:50] <ioria> danm, jconsole
[18:50] <danm> ioria: thanks!
[18:50] <ioria> danm, np
[18:51] <danm> ioria: And Oracle Mission Control?
[18:51] <ioria> no idea
[18:51] <ioria> ControlPanel ?
[18:54] <neminis> i did something funny on my ubuntu
[18:54] <neminis> i created a "~/dev" folder
[18:54] <neminis> and it started being filled with various things that should go to /dev
[18:56] <neminis> is that even normal? are most programs confused by users like that?
[18:57] <kevdog> I'm getting this error: error: cannot install "canonical-livepatch": snap not found
[18:57] <k1l_> kevdog: what ubuntu are you on?
[18:57] <kevdog> 16.04
[18:58] <kevdog> Has the package been removed
[18:58] <k1l_> is you system updated?
[18:58] <kevdog> Yes but the us servers are really really slow
[18:58] <kevdog> or maybe its just me
[18:58] <zumba_addict> does ubuntu have patch for dirty cow kernel exploit?
[18:59] <k1l_> zumba_addict: its already shipped
[18:59] <zumba_addict> so all we have to do is do an update?
[18:59] <k1l_> zumba_addict: yes
[18:59] <zumba_addict> ok
[19:00] <k1l_> kevdog: "snap find canonical-livepatch"
[19:00] <v7> Wow
[19:00] <zumba_addict> i'll verify our kernel version and would like to know which kernel version has the patches
[19:00] <v7> http://thehackernews.com/2016/10/dyn-dns-ddos.html
[19:00] <v7> Do you have access to twitter ?
[19:00] <zumba_addict> this is currently ours - 4.7.5-200.fc24.x86_64
[19:01] <k1l_> !ot | v7
[19:01] <v7> Sorry k1l_
[19:01] <k1l_> zumba_addict: that is not a ubuntu kernel
[19:01] <zumba_addict> oh
[19:01] <k1l_> zumba_addict: actually, you are running fedora. so that is a totally wrong channel
[19:01] <kevdog> I did the "snap find canonical-livepatch" but its not listed
[19:02] <zumba_addict> oh i'm sorry
[19:02] <k1l_> kevdog: its listed for me
[19:02] <zumba_addict> i thought we were using ubuntu
[19:02] <zumba_addict> thank you
[19:02] <k1l_> zumba_addict: "cat /etc/issue"
[19:02] <kevdog> Ok -- so how do I get an updated list?
[19:02] <zumba_addict> i did, no mention of fedora
[19:02] <zumba_addict> they cleaned up the banner
[19:02] <zumba_addict> this is the only output - Kernel \r on an \m (\l)
[19:04] <satseven> Hello all
[19:04] <k1l_> zumba_addict: than its not an ubuntu. but from the kernel i see its a fedora. so #fedora might help you
[19:04] <satseven> ¿how i can see full list of names in server?
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> satseven  list of what names?
[19:05] <k1l_> kevdog: "apt-cache policy snapd | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here please
[19:06] <kevdog> http://termbin.com/auie
[19:07] <k1l_> kevdog: uh, you got proposed active. that is not meant for users. that is for automated testing and developers.
[19:07] <k1l_> kevdog: and you are on 32bit OS. livepatch is for 64bit only
[19:08] <k1l_> kevdog: and if your CPU is 64bit, dont run 32bit OS
[19:08] <kevdog> Sorry to bother you -- yes I am on 32 bit OS -- shoot
[19:08] <kevdog> No my CPU is 32 bit -- its 10 years old
[19:08] <kevdog> @k11_: Thanks for your help
[19:08] <satseven> ¿how i can see full list of names in server?
[19:08] <k1l_> then you need to run regular updates and reboot
[19:09] <k1l_> satseven: what names?
[19:09] <satseven> full list of users are in server #ubuntu
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> satseven  type    who
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> satseven  also, type     w
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> satseven  oh, in the #ubuntu channel? type    /names
[19:11] <satseven> thanks mate, its my first day at Linux
[19:11] <codfection> hello
[19:12] <satseven> Hello codfection
[19:12] <codfection> hello ubuntu, I cant set my browser as chrome for default
[19:12] <codfection> xdg-mime query default text/html shows me google-chrome but it opens chromium :(
[19:13] <satseven> I can't help you Codefection, sorry. Im newee
[19:13] <codfection> Hi satseven
[19:13] <codfection> np
[19:14] <codfection> any pros here?
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> codfection  gedit  ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> codfection  find html on that page
[19:14] <for{}> guyz, i installed a special tar in /usr/local/bin/
[19:14] <for{}> after, i was unable to install tzdata
[19:14] <ikonia> a special tar ?
[19:15] <ikonia> install tzdata ??? what
[19:15] <satseven> special tar?
[19:15] <for{}> there are absolute paths, you know?
[19:15] <k1l_> for{}: so you messed with your system and ruined the package manager?
[19:15] <codfection> MonkeyDust: it shows google-chrome in html as well
[19:15] <for{}> no, i removed the special tar, and it worked
[19:15] <ikonia> for{}: what is a "special" tar ?
[19:16] <for{}> not /bin/tar
[19:16] <ikonia> ?
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> codfection  comment that line, put a # in the beginning
[19:16] <codfection> ok
[19:16] <for{}> i dont understand why arent absolute paths used
[19:16] <codfection> done
[19:16] <ikonia> what are you talking about ?? for{}
[19:17] <for{}> tzdata
[19:17] <ikonia> special tar ? absolute paths ??
[19:17] <jurgenaj> test
[19:17] <ikonia> what about tzdata ? what has that got to do with tar ?
[19:17] <satseven> I want to know all about Linux, how I can start?
[19:17] <for{}> read what i already wrote
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> codfection  save, close and try to set what you want
[19:17] <codfection> MonkeyDust: only html or others also?
[19:17] <ikonia> for{}: I have, it doesn't make any sense, hence my confusion
[19:17] <mure_> Do you guys know here is the xinit file on xfce4?
[19:17] <ikonia> satseven: pick a distribution and read about it
[19:17] <for{}> not my fault, ikonia
[19:17] <nacc> ikonia: i think what for{} is saying is they put a custom 'tar' in /usr/local/bin and then ran apt (which probably uses tar) and it used the /usr/local/bin/ one instead of /bin/tar
[19:17] <nacc> ikonia: guessing here
[19:17] <for{}> wow, nacc, exactly
[19:17] <ikonia> apt doesn't use tar though
[19:18] <k1l_> ikonia: he installed an own tar (program) and then the system didnt work on package install (which uses tar)
[19:18] <ikonia> ahhh the pre/post scripts
[19:18] <nacc> for{}: do you see how that is *much* clearer than what you wrote, though?
[19:18] <codfection> MonkeyDust: set using xorg set right?
[19:18] <mure_> where*
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> codfection  set the default browser
[19:18] <for{}> soooooo? why arent absolute paths used?
[19:18] <ikonia> so just change $PATH or remove the "special" tar version from /usr/local/bin
[19:18] <ikonia> job done
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> codfection  in your system settings
[19:18] <ikonia> for{}: used where ?
[19:18] <nacc> for{}: in any case, if absolute paths were used, then if something was subtly broken or whatever, you would have no way to use your system
[19:18] <for{}> in the world, ikonia
[19:18] <ikonia> for{}: sometimes they are
[19:18] <nacc> for{}: because that's what PATH is for in *nix
[19:19] <for{}> yeah, i feel a sour taste in my mouth
[19:19] <ikonia> what ///
[19:19] <ikonia> " a sour taste ?"
[19:19] <ikonia> what are you talking about ?
[19:19] <for{}> its like u complain bash doesnt work and someone recommends using zsh
[19:20] <nacc> for{}: it's not at all what anyone is saying
[19:20] <ikonia> no-one has said anything of the sort
[19:20] <satseven> ikonia: where I can find it?
[19:20] <ikonia> for{}: lets stop this, do you have an ubuntu question, if so, state it clearly, if not, it's not for this channel
[19:20] <ikonia> satseven: find what sorry
[19:20] <nacc> for{}: you placed a binary in $PATH that you shouldn't have
[19:20] <satseven> ikonia:
[19:20] <satseven> sorry misslick
[19:20] <codfection> MonkeyDust: nope, its still opening chromium
[19:20] <for{}> nacc, but why wasnt i noticed?
[19:21] <xock_stream> Hi
[19:21] <nacc> for{}: what?
[19:21] <ioria> mure_, on 14.04 is a package xinit and is in /usr/bin/xinit
[19:21] <satseven> ikonia: thing to read about Linux code programing. I want to learn about it
[19:21] <xock_stream> What is that command do? ' sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com E9EB04D3
[19:21] <xock_stream>  '
[19:21] <ikonia> satseven: pick a linux distribution, and read their documentation
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> codfection  logout/in and try again ... else, i'm out of ideas
[19:21] <nacc> xock_stream: you might want to read `man apt-key`
[19:21] <for{}> i use zsh though, but not because bash doesnt work
[19:21] <ikonia> for{}: stop - no more discussion please
[19:21] <ikonia> for{}: if you have an ubuntu question ask, if you don't please stop talking
[19:21] <for{}> ikonia, i exposed my problem
[19:21] <ikonia> for{}: yes, and you where told how to fix it
[19:21] <codfection> ok
[19:22] <for{}> u kept repeating: "what? what?"
[19:22] <ikonia> for{}: fix your PATH, or remove the wrong tar version
[19:22] <k1l_> xock_stream: it loads the gpg key from the server and make it trust that key. so all packages signed with that key are trusted and installed on your system without asking
[19:22] <for{}> wow, no more "what?"
[19:22] <codfection> nacc: k1l_ do you know how to set chrome as default browser when I click on links it opens with chromium instead
[19:22] <for{}> the problem is i had to google to find out tar is the problem
[19:22] <ikonia> you've been told the fix, enough now
[19:22] <k1l_> codfection: depends on the desktop in use and what program you use for clicking on links
[19:23] <for{}> ikonia, the fix was on google, not here
[19:23] <ikonia> then there is no need for more discussion
[19:23] <ikonia> you have the fix, great,
[19:23] <for{}> you're free to stop
[19:23] <codfection> k1l_: i3 ubuntu 16.04
[19:23] <satseven> ikonia: with distribution of linux u mean "book of linux"? Excuse me, Im from spain
[19:23] <mure_> ioria, I found the file but inside of it it's only rubish
[19:23] <ikonia> satseven: no problem, visit ubuntu.com (for example) to read about the ubuntu linux distribution
[19:23] <ikonia> satseven: be aware there are other linux distributions
[19:23] <xock_stream> Thanks k1l_, nacc
[19:24] <k1l_> codfection: uh i3. look at what that desktop is using. like the xdg lists or not.
[19:24] <satseven> ikonia: thanks mate, i really apreciate that
[19:24] <ioria> mure_, cause it's a binary
[19:24] <ioria> mure_,  file /usr/bin/xinit
[19:24] <mure_> oh,yeah, it makes sens then
[19:24] <ioria> mure_,  maybe you're looking for startx
[19:24] <codfection> k1l_: xdg shows chrome as default
[19:24] <codfection> xdg-mime query default text/html google-chrome.desktop. k1l_
[19:25] <mure_> I'm looking for the script that causes apps to start when I boot, ioria
[19:25] <xock_stream> oh man i cant install hopperapp it says 403 forbidden
[19:25] <ioria> mure_,  details, please
[19:25] <MarGul> Hey. I'm using sudo adduser --home /customers/test --shell /sbin/nologin --no-create-home --gecos "" brun to try and create a user to login via vsFTPd. I get login failed with this but when Ihave --shell /bin/bash it works. Is it secure to have /bin/bash? That way they can SSH as well right? Just want FTP access
[19:25] <mure_> what I'm trying to do is auto start conky at boot
[19:25] <mure_> ioria,
[19:26] <xock_stream> I don't understand how to install it
[19:26] <satseven> You guys know about, at Ubuntu v16.04 recomend Firefox / Chromium / or other ones?
[19:26] <OerHeks> mure_, conky @ boot is useless, you need to login to the display manager anyway. conky @ login is easy, add to startup applications
[19:26] <ioria> mure_,  what is conky  ? a panel ?
[19:27] <mure_> ioria: an app which displays different stats about my pc
[19:27] <mure_> OerHeks, that's what I'd want to do
[19:27] <mure_> but I don't know where the file responsable for that is
[19:28] <mure_> I forgot
[19:28] <OerHeks> mure_, useless @ boot.
[19:28] <nacc> xock_stream: how is getting a 403 from a website an ubuntu issue?
[19:28] <ioria> MarGul, http://linux-tips.com/t/users-with-bin-false-shell-to-login-on-vsftpd/200
[19:28] <xock_stream> sorry...
[19:29] <nacc> xock_stream: and i already told you how to install it, if you wanted to, but it's not supported here anyways
[19:29] <xock_stream> Can anyone try to install hopper disassembler?
[19:29] <nacc> xock_stream: what did you try?
[19:29] <xock_stream> nacc: can you tell me again how to install it?
[19:29] <nacc> xock_stream: use gdebi or the gui software centre
[19:29] <OerHeks> mure_, add to startup applicatione ( that starts when you login)
[19:29] <satseven> firefox or chromium for ubuntu?
[19:29] <xock_stream> I add the repo on /etc/apt/sources.list and import hopper gpg key and updating package database and install it and it gives ms error 403
[19:30] <xock_stream> from updating repository
[19:30] <nacc> satseven: a matter of choice and opinion, not a support topic
[19:30] <OerHeks> satseven, you can install both
[19:30] <nacc> xock_stream: what repository?
[19:30] <xock_stream> the apt-get update
[19:30] <ioria> MarGul, To enable users with no valid shell to login the ftp server, commenting out this line in /etc/pam.d/vsftpd file will be sufficient.  ... but never tried
[19:30] <xock_stream> that's repository
[19:30] <satseven> nacc: im new, im only asking, if i can't or if is forbiden just alert me. SOrry
[19:31] <xock_stream> Updating the package lists*
[19:31] <MarGul> ioria, Thanks. I will try this out.
[19:31] <nacc> xock_stream: i have very little patience for this. 'the apt-get update' is *not* a repository
[19:31] <nacc> xock_stream: if you don't want to divulge what exactly you are doing, then pleease don't ask for help
[19:31] <nacc> xock_stream: otherwise, use a pastebin and provide the exact steps
[19:31] <ioria> MarGul, maybe going to vsftp website ...
[19:31] <nacc> !ot | satseven: no problem, just follow this:
[19:31] <xock_stream> I am tell what I do
[19:31] <xock_stream> telling*
[19:32] <nacc> !who | xock_stream
[19:32] <MarGul> ioria, Been there and all over Google for the whole day almost witout getting it :/
[19:32] <MarGul> Missed the link you sent though. Will try that.
[19:32] <ioria> MarGul, also http://www.linuxexpert.ro/Linux-Tutorials/setup-vsftp-with-no-shell-access.html
[19:33] <ioria> MarGul, but it's old
[19:33] <xock_stream> nacc: "if you don't want to divulge what exactly you are doing, then pleease don't ask for help" I am saying what I am doing.  https://www.hopperapp.com/install_linux.html on step 3 i get error 403 (Failed to fetch)
[19:33] <Cuukey> sup
[19:34] <Cuukey> alright whos ddosing the us today?
[19:34] <Cuukey> lol
[19:34] <nacc> xock_stream: ok, so for the first time you've actually pointed at steps. I'm not a mind reader, so have *no idea* what you're doing until you provided that link
[19:34] <nacc> !pm | xock_stream
[19:35] <OerHeks> xock_stream,  here too, error 403, so no go for hopper
[19:35] <OerHeks> xock_stream, ask them ( hopper support) how about it
[19:35] <nacc> xock_stream: you should ask hopper why they don't let you have access to their documented repository
[19:35] <nacc> xock_stream: not an ubuntu problem; in the meanwhile, you could probably just download the .deb
[19:36] <OerHeks> xock_stream, did you pay first?
[19:36] <OerHeks> lolz
[19:36] <ioria> MarGul, alternative deny ssh for some users http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/openssh-deny-or-restrict-access-to-users-and-groups.html
[19:36] <xock_stream> No
[19:36] <xock_stream> It's free I suppose
[19:36] <xock_stream> OerHeks:
[19:36] <OerHeks> xock_stream, no, it is not.
[19:36] <OerHeks> end support
[19:37] <xock_stream> So that's why it's not working for me?
[19:37] <xock_stream> OerHeks:
[19:37] <OerHeks> xock_stream, it is paid, so i get no money. no support here.
[19:38] <nacc> xock_stream: none of this is an ubuntu issue, please talk to hopper about the problems you are having
[19:40] <quantibility> ok
[19:40] <quantibility> im having an issue with Print screen
[19:40] <quantibility> can anyone help?
[19:40] <ShayBox> whats wrong?
[19:41] <ShayBox> image not uploading?
[19:41] <quantibility> I print screen the usual "save dialog" comes up but the moment i hit save.. it freezes.. have to use Xkill
[19:41] <quantibility> i can save to clip board, open image editor and paste then save but
[19:41] <ShayBox> hmm, idk about that... what program do you use
[19:41] <quantibility> xubuntu
[19:41] <MarGul> ioria, When I added /bin/bash to /etc/shells it works. And if I try to SSH with that user it just instantly closes the terminal. Is this correct because I don't have a shell?
[19:42] <ShayBox> thats the program you use? or the OS you use...
[19:42] <quantibility> I never really tried regular print screen but i have two monitors
[19:42] <ioria> MarGul,  i guess so
[19:42] <quantibility> OS, what ever it uses for print screen
[19:42] <quantibility> hmm
[19:42] <quantibility> let me try just print screen with ALT
[19:42] <ShayBox> what website does it normally upload the images to?
[19:42] <pavlos> quantibility, I just clicked PrintScn, it saved a screenshot in Pictures, ubuntu16.04
[19:42] <ioria> MarGul,  sorry, you added /bin/bash
[19:43] <OerHeks> orntscreen saves locally
[19:43] <quantibility> nope still stalls
[19:43] <OerHeks> printscreen*
[19:43] <quantibility> Shay no websites just local
[19:43] <MarGul> ioria, Sorry /bin/false
[19:43] <quantibility> Printscreen yes
[19:43] <ioria> MarGul,   ah, OK
[19:44] <xafarderr> Warnings over Dirty Cow Linux bug
[19:44] <quantibility> pavlos YES i know it does that but it hasn't been going through with saving anything
[19:44] <ShayBox> oh thats just you then, i'm trying to find problems with people that are a result of the mass ddos going on to Dyn
[19:44] <OerHeks> xafarderr, if you update, it is fixed
[19:44] <xafarderr> ok
[19:44] <xafarderr> but if i don't update?
[19:44] <quantibility> I hit printscreen, then it brings up the "Save DIALOG" and as soon as i hit ok, it stall out
[19:44] <xafarderr> i have ubuntu 10.04
[19:44] <OerHeks> xafarderr, why do you ask? trolling ?
[19:45] <quantibility> i have to use XKILL to remove it
[19:45] <xafarderr> no
[19:45] <xafarderr> can't update
[19:45] <OerHeks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-5195.html
[19:45] <nacc> xafarderr: 10.04 is eol
[19:45] <nacc> xafarderr: you should not be using it any longer
[19:45] <quantibility> can anyone help me please?
[19:45] <quantibility> i think i know what the issue is but anyone have a a check list?
[19:45] <OerHeks> xafarderr, so you are on an old ubuntu version that is no longer supported.
[19:45] <ioria> quantibility, man scrot
[19:46] <quantibility> ?? no manual entery for scrot
[19:46] <ThePhoenix47> quantibility: Error: There is no command "no manual entery for scrot".
[19:46] <xafarderr> but I don't want to change it, is it seriously vulnerable?
[19:46] <quantibility> yeah i just figured that out
[19:46] <ioria> !info scrot
[19:46] <OerHeks> ?? google
[19:46] <ThePhoenix47> OerHeks: Error: There is no command "google".
[19:47] <OerHeks> ThePhoenix47, you are a bot, not allowed in this channel.
[19:47] <OerHeks> ?? quit
[19:47] <ThePhoenix47> OerHeks: (quit [<text>]) -- Exits the bot with the QUIT message <text>. If <text> is not given, the default quit message (supybot.plugins.Owner.quitMsg) will be used. If there is no default quitMsg set, your nick will be used. The standard substitutions ($version, $nick, etc.) are all handled appropriately.
[19:47] <ioria> lol
[19:47] <ShayBox> ?? quit now
[19:47] <ThePhoenix47> ShayBox: Error: There is no command "quit now".
[19:47] <xafarderr> to get  a "virus" on Linux you must be a fool
[19:47] <ShayBox> quit now
[19:47] <ioria> i hate bots
[19:47] <OerHeks> xafarderr, nice rant, upgrade your ubuntu and come back
[19:48] <ShayBox> maybe it closed?
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> ioria  not fembots, i take it
[19:48] <ioria> !gender
[19:48] <quantibility> i don't want scrot i haven't a problem with screen capture before
[19:48] <quantibility> untill recently
[19:48] <ioria> MonkeyDust, they are welcome
[19:48] <OerHeks> quantibility, can you save anything in your home folder?
[19:48] <OerHeks> to check if your system is mounted read-only
[19:49] <quantibility> OerHeks, define save anything?? yes i can save, however i don't quite understand how you mean
[19:49] <catbadger> I broke jack. help
[19:49] <quantibility> ugh this is why i just want to do a fresh install
[19:49] <quantibility> but ive built so much into this system
[19:50] <ioria> quantibility,  using unity ?
[19:50] <quantibility> unity?
[19:50] <quantibility> what is unity?
[19:50] <ioria> quantibility,   what DE ?
[19:50] <ShayBox> Jordan_U, xubuntu
[19:50] <quantibility> i got xfce4
[19:50] <OerHeks> quantibility, you say that saving a screenshot brings your system down, so checking if you can save something  will help find out what is going on
[19:50] <quantibility> no it doesn't Bring my system down
[19:51] <quantibility> the Dialog that comes up gets stalled
[19:51] <OerHeks> stalled, so you cannot do anything else but using XKIL
[19:51] <ioria> !info xfce4-screenshooter-plugin
[19:51] <quantibility> it won't go any further but the dialog when i press the ok button from there
[19:51] <quantibility> YES i can save something
[19:52] <OerHeks> oke, so your system is not mounted read-only ( for some reason), 1 thing ruled out
[19:53] <nichola> Sausages for tea!
[19:53] <johnzorn> Is setting up postfix as a relayhost for a gmail account the easiest way of setting up a system that allows scripts to send me email?
[19:53] <nichola> Danny, if youre on here your tea is ready!!! (mum)
[19:55] <quantibility> is there any way to do a fresh install without removing all the programs i have aquired, i don't care about personal settings just want ot do a fresh install without removing all the programs i have gotten over the past year or so?
[19:56] <ThePhoenix47> OerHeks, Sorry, I forgot to lobotomize my bot half in here and was gone for a sec.
[19:56] <ThePhoenix47> Should be fixed
[19:57] <quantibility> ??
[19:57] <ThePhoenix47> There, no response.
[19:58] <ThePhoenix47>  ?ping is also a good test trigger. I'm right now going over my channel list (again) and checking if I lobotomized it in every channel where I not explicitly asked before joining...
[19:58] <OerHeks> quantibility, an easy way to reconfigure your system is going into tty2, dpkg --configure -a # this might fix something, not sure as it is not clear what is going wrong
[19:58] <OerHeks> ThePhoenix47, disable now please.
[19:58] <OerHeks> ops do not like bots, just saying
[19:58] <ThePhoenix47> Something like a whitelist would be useful, but then again, I kinda gave up on this thing.
[19:58] <ThePhoenix47> OerHeks, it's disabled for here.
[19:58] <jinxi1> hi, I have a problem
[19:59] <niytro> hello errbody
[19:59] <quantibility> that is not slooking for
[19:59] <quantibility> i asked a question
[19:59] <OerHeks> quantibility, no guarantee that manuall installed apps survive a xubuntu-reinstall
[20:10] <xocket> I have ubuntu-16.04.1 to install or to install the newest?
[20:10] <Bray90820> Can someone help me here I am using ubuntu 16.10 on my surface 3 and every time I use  browser the whole tatbet freezes and i need to hard reboot and also once in a blue moon when I turn it on the internet tries to connect fails and then the screen goes black
[20:11] <xocket> I will just download the latest ..
[20:12] <Bray90820> I tried a usb wifi card and the error isn't present so I think it has something to do with the driver
[20:12] <tomreyn> xocket: can you rephrase your question? since i could not parse it.
[20:13] <xocket> tomreyn, I have ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[20:13] <nacc> xocket: if you have to ask that question, i would suggest you only use LTS
[20:13] <tomreyn> Bray90820: which type of card?
[20:13] <xocket> ok..
[20:13] <xocket> XD
[20:13] <k1l_> xocket: you mean 16.04.1 or 16.10?
[20:13] <xocket> what i wrote
[20:13] <pavlos> xocket, 16.10 has a life about 9 months, better stay with 16.04 lts
[20:14] <nacc> !pm | xocket
[20:14] <k1l_> xocket: but installing 16.10 means you need to upgrade every 6 months. on 16.04.* you can stay there for 5years since 16.04 release
[20:15] <xocket> My goal is to use arch linux but I see I am noob. What is best road to go so I can use arch linux?
[20:15] <xocket> I am asking the question because Ubuntu is for noobs like me
[20:15] <nacc> xocket: it seems totally incorrect to ask the ubuntu support channel how to use arch linux.
[20:16] <Yuyuyuy123> \/\/ JOIN #wikimedia-ayuda \/\/ -- patrocined by jem
[20:17] <Yener> Hello
[20:18] <Bray90820> tomreyn: Marvell 88W8897
[20:18] <_stump_junkman_> xocket, start with slackware, see how you like that. If you can swing that, then you'll be able to use arch effectively
[20:18] <Yener> Is this main channel?
[20:18] <_stump_junkman_> 'tis
[20:18] <xocket> someone can veriy what _stump_junkman_ said?
[20:19] <Bray90820> Yener: If your asking if it is the main channel for ubuntu support yes it is
[20:19] <Yener> Thank you Bray, its glad to be here
[20:19] <_stump_junkman_> I started with Slackware 9.0 years ago, ran that up through 11.x, switched to Debian. Now running *buntu on my desktop
[20:19] <ikonia> xocket: it's nonsense, but it's also nothing to do with this channel
[20:19] <k1l_> _stump_junkman_: that is offtopic in here
[20:19] <xocket> O_O
[20:19] <xocket> Why the hate? I am just asking a question.
[20:19] <_stump_junkman_> very well
[20:20] <nacc> xocket: there is no hate; you're just offtopic for the ubuntu support channel
[20:20] <nacc> xocket: if you want to learn to use arch, ask the arch folks?
[20:20] <jatt> there is #slackware
[20:20] <xocket> jatt: what is slackware related?
[20:21] <xocket> nacc: I am going to do that. Wish me luck xo)
[20:21] <_stump_junkman_> xocket, just hop over to the arch linux channel and ask around. Or reddit.
[20:21] <Yener> This is my ubuntu running on virtualbox and I have a notebook installed ubuntu only now the thing is I need to communicate with these machine
[20:21] <Yener> how can I configure network adapter for this ?
[20:22] <ikonia> Yener: are they not on a network ?
[20:22] <tomreyn> Bray90820: sudo lspci -knnv | grep -iA15 Marvell
[20:22] <Yener> they are in same network
[20:22] <tomreyn> Bray90820: put this on a pastebin
[20:22] <tomreyn> !pastebin | Bray90820
[20:22] <ikonia> Yener: so you just need to set the virtalbox private network to be routed or nat
[20:23] <Yener> I dont want use host connection
[20:23] <Yener> I want to gather a pure connection for my virtual michine
[20:23] <ikonia> what ?
[20:23] <ikonia> how do you expect a virtual machine to connect to a physical network if the host is not conneted to it
[20:24] <Yener> No
[20:24] <Yener> I expect gather a new ip from dhcp of my switch
[20:24] <dax> Are you talking about bridged mode?
[20:24] <Yener> I cant ping to my notebook pc within her
[20:24] <ikonia> Yener: right, so you need to set the virtualbox network to be routed or nat
[20:24] <Yener> i will try bridge also again give me 1 min
[20:25] <pavlos> Yener, setup VB network adapter as bridge, it will pick up an ip from your dhcp
[20:27] <Bray90820> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23361246/
[20:28] <tomreyn> Bray90820: "Kernel driver in use: mwifiex_pcie" - that's the right driver
[20:29] <tomreyn> update the linux-firmware package
[20:29] <Bray90820> tomreyn: How?
[20:45] <donofrio> so why does Telco DNS work when google's is crushed today...
[20:45] <ppf> donofrio: ongoing ddos
[20:45] <donofrio> right but telco's ok?
[20:46] <k1l_> donofrio: different infrastructure.
[20:46] <donofrio> I had to use tmobile's dns to get school site to work, didn'y with googledns ;(
[20:46] <donofrio> k just made me wonder....cause if this was dns dos should all dns servers have same zone files?
[20:48] <donofrio> I meant "shouldn't"
[20:49] <javier-mate> Buenas
[20:49] <Bray90820> tomreyn: How would I update the linux-firmware package
[20:50] <javier-mate> Hello
[20:53] <teo_> !info vlc
[21:06] <tomreyn> Bray90820: which ubuntu version do you have there?
[21:06] <Bray90820> 16.10 x64
[21:06] <tomreyn> had to leave there, sorry. i'll stick with you now.
[21:07] <tomreyn> dpkg -l linux-firmware
[21:07] <tomreyn> says what?
[21:07] <tomreyn> just the last line
[21:07] <tomreyn> Bray90820: ^
[21:08] <Bray90820> il linux-firmware 1.161 all firmware for linux kernel drivers
[21:09] <tomreyn> Bray90820: okay that's the newest there is in ubuntu. maybe we can find another source with a newer one.
[21:10] <tomreyn> dpkg -L linux-firmware | grep 8897
[21:10] <tomreyn> these should be the firmwares for this device
[21:10] <verticlebert> hey guys i'm curious if there are more places that acpi would house it's scripts other than /etc/acpi/?
[21:10] <tomreyn> Bray90820: i would think /lib/firmware/mrvl/pcie8897_uapsta.bin is the one you may want to upgrade
[21:10] <verticlebert> i'm looking for where the lid lock scripts are but i don't see them under /etc/acpi
[21:11] <Bray90820> Maybe I could use ndiswrapper
[21:11] <Bray90820> tomreyn:
[21:16] <tomreyn> Bray90820: this appears to have updated firmware. but yusing it without knowing what you're doing could brick your hardware, so be careful. http://git.marvell.com/?p=mwifiex-firmware.git;a=tree;f=mrvl;h=6e0abcc70ddb3c19da49eb144d99ddd93d596c68;hb=HEAD
[21:16] <Bray90820> tomreyn: soft or hard brick?
[21:16] <MarGul> Hey. I have created a user with HOME directory of /customers/user1. This user is then used in vsFTPd to log in. Is there a way so that I can ONLY access user1 dir. Now my user can browse up to /customer and he can se /customer/user2 when he connects with FTP
[21:16] <tomreyn> Bray90820: hard, if it doesn't check the firmwar ebefore trying to load it.
[21:17] <tomreyn> this is speaking potentially
[21:17] <tomreyn> Bray90820: a more preserving approach would be to start by reviewing your system logs, and maybe look for errors indicating why it doesn't work
[21:17] <Bray90820> tomreyn: While I have never updated firmware like this I can prob do it without issues
[21:18] <tomreyn> you can grep /var/log/syslog for 8897 and 2b38 and mwifiex
[21:18] <tomreyn> also the output provided by dmesg -T
[21:20] <JustMozzy> hey everyone. does anyone know what cloud-init is?
[21:21] <akik> JustMozzy: you can insert cloud vm configuration with it while provisioning
[21:23] <xsmltx> Hi, in virt-manager, Lubuntu minimal installation as a guest starts directly only in the console(it is normal), normally I have press ctrl+alt+f1 to redirect me to tty1, but the console of the guest doesn't respond to any command. Thank you.
[21:24] <tomreyn> MarGul: you are looking for a chroot configuration
[21:24] <cobracommand> Is it true that ubuntu you have to use sudo but in other linux you don't?
[21:25] <Bray90820> tomreyn: Here are song logs from right after it crashed
[21:25] <Bray90820> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23361543/
[21:25] <k1l_> cobracommand: other distributions do you sudo, too. ubuntu is build to use sudo and doesnt have an enabled root account.
[21:25] <k1l_> !sudo | cobracommand
[21:25] <MarGul> tomreyn, Yes. I have chroot_local_users=YES . But you can still "browse back". I would like it to be for a HOME dir like /customers/user1 that when you log in you get to user1 dir and can't "browse" up to customers
[21:26] <devslash> I upgraded my VirtualBox Ubuntu VM from 16.04 to 16.10 and it won't boot now. I get the error "NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU #0 stuck for 23s! [swapper/0:1] THe kernel is based on 4.8.0-22. If I choose Advanced Options from Grub and Choose Linux 4.4.0-38-generic, it does boot
[21:27] <cobracommand> ubottu yes I know what sudo is what I meant to ask if other linux distros allow you to run admin/superuser commands without typing sudo
[21:28] <k1l_> cobracommand: this is ubuntu support. for other distributions better ask ##linux
[21:28] <tomreyn> MarGul: i'm not sufficiently famiiar with vsftpd to tell you how exactly you can achieve this.
[21:28] <tomreyn> Bray90820: looking at your logs now
[21:29] <devslash> can anyone help me with my issue if Ubuntu not booting
[21:29] <devslash> sudo
[21:29] <MarGul> tomreyn, Np, thanks for trying.
[21:29] <df00z> Hey - is there functioning multiarch llvm in 16.10?  i am having trouble trying to get the libraries installed multiarch
[21:31] <devslash> i dont understand how cannonical can release a super buggy O.S update
[21:31] <Jordan_U> df00z: What are you trying to do specifically, and what problem are you having? (Ideally, please include exact commands and their error messages in your reply).
[21:32] <df00z> Build a git version of mesa, 32 bit, and install to a prefix.
[21:32] <df00z> Give me a few, please
[21:33] <Bray90820> tomreyn: Here is the output of "dmesg -T" the file was to long to paste so I just pasted a few lines before the first error
[21:33] <Bray90820> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23361566/
[21:34] <devslash> can anyone help me figure this out ...
[21:34] <ppf> MarGul: chrooting should do exactly that
[21:34] <devslash> I dont want to upgrade any of my non-VM ubuntu machines unless I know what to do if this happens if I upgrade them to Ubuntu 16.10
[21:35] <MarGul> ppf, That's what I thought. But when I FTP in I come straight into /customers/user1 but I can still see /customers/user2 , /customers/user3 and so on.
[21:35] <df00z> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/jGZdUA8f
[21:35] <ppf> devslash: you need to spill some details
[21:35] <df00z> I dont think those are the correct LLVM_LDFLAGS for 32 bit
[21:35] <ppf> MarGul: restarted the ftp?
[21:35] <devslash> ppf i did scroll up
[21:36] <MarGul> ppf, Yes
[21:36] <df00z> pretty sure it's the output from llvm-config --libs
[21:36] <tomreyn> Bray90820: line 147 of your dmesg output suggests that the device is working fine, and was able to connect to your wireless router
[21:36] <df00z> Sorry, --libdir
[21:37] <devslash> ppf: I upgraded my VirtualBox Ubuntu VM from 16.04 to 16.10 and it won't boot now. I get the error "NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU #0 stuck for 23s! [swapper/0:1] The kernel is based on 4.8.0-22.
[21:37] <MarGul> ppf, I set the home dir for my user to be /customers/user1. So I can see why it's like this. It sets my "root" dir to be /customers
[21:37] <Jordan_U> df00z: You haven
[21:37] <Bray90820> tomreyn: That would be correct but when I run a browser the entire tablet freezes
[21:38] <Jordan_U> df00z: ... haven't said what you're trying to do, or what problem you're having.
[21:38] <tomreyn> Bray90820: okay, but howwould that be related to the wireless?
[21:38] <k1l_> devslash: that is not the latest kernel. make sure to have linux-generic installed and update it
[21:38] <devslash> i cant
[21:38] <df00z> Jordan_U: Trying to build a 32 bit mesa from GIT
[21:38] <ppf> df00z: what precisely is the problem?
[21:38] <devslash> how can i make sure of that if i cant even boot the damn thing
[21:38] <tomreyn> Bray90820: i do see errors about the intel graphics chipset in there
[21:38] <ppf> missing llvm 32bit packages?
[21:38] <devslash> k1l_,  how can i make sure of that if i cant even boot the damn thing
[21:38] <df00z> No, mesa's configure script isnt finding the proper libraries.
[21:38] <df00z> they exist in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[21:38] <ppf> MarGul: you can specify the chroot in vsftpd.conf
[21:39] <Bray90820> tomreyn: I tried a usb wireless card and everything worked fine so thats why I am led to believe it is my wireless card
[21:39] <tomreyn> Bray90820: intel DRM stand for direct (graphics /video) rendering module, not digital right management
[21:39] <df00z> im going to try and reconfigure overriding LLVM_LDFLAGS i guess
[21:40] <Bray90820> tomreyn: What does that mean to me?
[21:40] <k1l_> devslash: is that a vbox install? after first reboot? or what is it?
[21:40] <ppf> df00z: what exactly is the problem?
[21:40] <tomreyn> Bray90820: i understand now. but it's still a bit far fetched. have you enabled the intel microcode stuff on the driver management GUI?
[21:40] <Bray90820> I have not
[21:40] <ppf> df00z: paste the error you're getting, please
[21:40] <Bray90820> I don't even know what that means
[21:40] <df00z> ppf: See pastebin, that _is_ the problem.  I can continue the build. but its going to bomb at the linking stage
[21:40] <ppf> how
[21:40] <JustMozzy> exit
[21:41] <df00z> http://pastebin.com/jGZdUA8f'=
[21:41] <df00z> http://pastebin.com/jGZdUA8f
[21:41] <Jordan_U> df00z: Have you run  "sudo apt-get build-dep mesa"?
[21:41] <devslash> k1l_, i had Ubuntu 16.04 in VB working perfectly. I booted it the other day and it asked me if I wanted to upgrade to 16.10 so I said yes. After it finished it said it had to reboot so I did. It won't boot now with that error that I mentioned
[21:41] <df00z> Jordan: Good idea, let me try that actually
[21:41] <ppf> df00z: i don't see an error there
[21:41] <tomreyn> Bray90820: it's how intel chips updates for cpu firmware. and since the gpu is integrated with the cpu, this may help there, too.
[21:42] <Bray90820> tomreyn: So where should I go from here
[21:42] <ppf> devslash: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1530405
[21:42] <tomreyn> Bray90820: enable the microcode, reboot, see if it helps
[21:43] <Bray90820> tomreyn: How
[21:43] <devslash> ppf, i dont understand is there a fix for this ?
[21:44] <ppf> devslash: no, the PR is still open
[21:44] <devslash> what is the cause exactly
[21:44] <ppf> unknown
[21:44] <tomreyn> Bray90820: /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk --open-tab=4
[21:44] <devslash> jeez
[21:44] <k1l_> devslash: could be some settings in your vbox
[21:44] <k1l_> devslash: 16.10 should work in vbox.
[21:44] <devslash> how it worked before
[21:45] <ppf> devslash: read the report
[21:45] <devslash> i didnt change any settings between 16.04 and 16.10
[21:45] <devslash> i did
[21:45] <ppf> people are suggesting various drivers
[21:45] <df00z> There, it bombed.
[21:45] <ppf> but it's not been diagnosed
[21:45] <devslash> how am i supposed to do that when i cant boot it ?!
[21:45] <df00z> http://pastebin.com/mWitnzXK
[21:46] <df00z> *grumbles about multiarch on ubuntu*
[21:46] <ppf> df00z: that's not llvm
[21:46] <ppf> it's pickung up a wrong libexpat
[21:46] <df00z> It was LLVM before, now its this.
[21:47] <df00z> Uh so like
[21:47] <df00z> PKG_CONFIG_PATH is set to /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkgconfig
[21:47] <MadLamb> My ubuntu suddently started to return the audio I hear back as a input. Any clue how to solve this?
[21:47] <Bray90820> tomreyn: Oh that I don't think that will work I tried it once before but I will try it again
[21:48] <df00z> pkg-config expat --libs outputs -lexpat
[21:48] <df00z> isnt that wrong?
[21:48] <df00z> pkg-config expat --libs --debug shows Removing -L /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu from libs for expat
[21:48] <df00z> I would expect that to be left in there
[21:49] <tomreyn> Bray90820: up to you. it should not make things worse.
[21:49] <df00z> I guess I could try LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[21:49] <tomreyn> Bray90820: do you have the latest firmware (BIOS update) for the computer installed, too?
[21:49] <Jordan_U> devslash: Many in that bug report have said that upgrading to a newer mainline kernel solved the problem. While it is better to use a newer kernel (mainline) that to use an older kernel (from 16.04) it is still important that if you install a mainline kernel it is your responsibility to make sure that you have a kernel with the latest security patches, for example for CVE-2016-5195 .
[21:50] <tomreyn> Bray90820: in case you do not know: sudo dmidecode -s bios-version && sudo dmidecode -s bios-release-date
[21:50] <devslash> Jordan_U, thanks but at the moment i cant even boot it
[21:50] <Jordan_U> devslash: I thought you said that you could still boot it by selecting the older kernel from the grub menu?
[21:51] <devslash> i thought i could but it doesnt fully boot
[21:51] <ppf> df00z: PKG_CONFIG_PATH32 and PKG_CONFIG_PATH64
[21:51] <devslash> my bad
[21:51] <ppf> df00z: i think you can tell it to look specifically for bittiness
[21:51] <Jordan_U> devslash: First then, grab an Ubuntu 16.10 iso and see if you can boot that in this VM without hitting this bug.
[21:52] <JonelethIrenicus> can anyone give recommendations for a icremental backup offsite for a desktop that is easy to manage?
[21:52] <ppf> df00z: no scratch that, that's a custom thing in my projects
[21:52] <JonelethIrenicus> im talking something cheap for full backups
[21:52] <ppf> it's late ...
[21:53] <atlasloewenherz> good evenning everyone
[21:54] <tomreyn> JonelethIrenicus: how about the backup utility which comes with ubuntu, deja-dup?
[21:54] <JonelethIrenicus> tomreyn: that can't do offsite backups can it?
[21:54] <MarGul> ppf, got it to work now with allow_writeable_chroot=YES
[21:54] <MarGul>  , I've seen that this can be a security issue. Is this true?
[21:55] <atlasloewenherz> i made sure an iscsi session is active, it also creates a block device ( sdh) which i can see via fdisk, i was also able to create a new partition on the /dev/sdh, the partition type is 8e/ Linux LVM but the partition is not visible in Ubuntu am missing something?
[21:55] <tomreyn> JonelethIrenicus: sure it can, using several protocols
[21:55] <JonelethIrenicus> tomreyn: oh yeah ?
[21:56] <tomreyn> JonelethIrenicus: oh yeah! ...including ssh/scp/sftp, ftp, webdav.
[21:57] <JonelethIrenicus> tomreyn: not very good reviews - https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/deja-dup/
[21:58] <df00z> ppf: thanks let me try that
[21:58] <ppf> df00z: no need, i was mistaken
[21:58] <df00z> Oh
[21:59] <Bray90820> tomreyn: Current is march 2015 latest is September 2016
[21:59] <tomreyn> JonelethIrenicus: i'm not aware of other easy to use and well enough done implementations in ubuntu. there are proprietary solutions, though.
[21:59] <ppf> pkg-config is invoked by configure?
[21:59] <ppf> you did export PKG_CONFIG_PATH, right?
[21:59] <tomreyn> Bray90820: upgrade.
[22:00] <tomreyn> there's a good chance this will solve some or all of your issues
[22:00] <df00z> ppf: yeah
[22:00] <Bray90820> tomreyn: ugh not so sure I can without windows :/
[22:01] <df00z> I think Im gonna give up on it
[22:01] <JonelethIrenicus> tomreyn: what are those?
[22:01] <df00z> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxi/+bug/1360342  there are a lot of multiarch issues
[22:01] <JonelethIrenicus> tomreyn: if the data is encrypted before sending i guess it doesn't matter
[22:02] <ppf> df00z: are you sure pkg_config is the thing that's confused?
[22:02] <df00z> Im not 100% sure, no, but dont know what else it could be.
[22:02] <ppf> can you paste the configure output?
[22:02] <tomreyn> Bray90820: can you boot the device off external media?
[22:03] <Bray90820> That's how I got ubuntu installed :)
[22:03] <tomreyn> Bray90820: if so, install either windows or freedos to some external media and boot off it, install firmware upgrade, return to linux.
[22:03] <df00z> ppf: http://pastebin.com/cBRA6ST3
[22:03] <tomreyn> this is more a ##hardware topic, though, off topic here
[22:04] <Bray90820> I might just reinstall windows then reinstall ubuntu and get back to you
[22:04] <tomreyn> JonelethIrenicus: spideroak is nice IMO
[22:04] <ppf> df00z: that's not a valid LLVM_LDFLAGS specification
[22:04] <JonelethIrenicus> tomreyn: yeah but it is too expensive for an entire system
[22:04] <JonelethIrenicus> 10 dollars for every 100 GB
[22:04] <df00z> ppf: exactly, thats the 64 bit path
[22:05] <df00z> I did not specify that
[22:05] <ppf> ~/Mesa-3D# LLVM_LDFLAGS=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu ./configure --enable-nine --prefix=/usr/fakelocal/32/
[22:05] <ppf> that's the one i meant
[22:05] <df00z> oh, i can get rid of that but it seems to make no diff
[22:07] <tomreyn> JonelethIrenicus: there are cheaper, less technically sound solutions. you could also roll your own using owncloud.
[22:07] <JonelethIrenicus> tomreyn: yeah for sure
[22:08] <atlasloewenherz> anyone could help understand why my iscsi based lvm partition is not visible to the OS these are my logs: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f20f1e202f7a634769ac2dd22d604aa6
[22:09] <ppf> df00z: let's look at the llvm thing first. i bet it's getting the llvm settings through llvm-config
[22:10] <ppf> thus, when configuring, make sure you've got the right llvm-config in your path
[22:10] <Jordan_U> atlasloewenherz: Please pastebin the output of "sudo pvscan && sudo vgscan && sudo vgachange -a y && sudo lvscan".
[22:10] <df00z> ppf: theres only one llvm-config on my system as far as i am aware of, not a sep 32 bit one
[22:10] <ppf> because that's probably not the right one: llvm-config:     /usr/bin/llvm-config
[22:11] <atlasloewenherz> Jordan_U: one sec
[22:11] <ppf> but you have 32bit llvm libs around?
[22:11] <df00z> ppf: correct.
[22:11] <df00z> I think its part of the main package not libs
[22:11] <ppf> how did you install them
[22:11] <df00z> and the i386 and regular package conflict
[22:11] <ppf> so which did you install?
[22:11] <df00z> 64
[22:11] <ppf> i'm confused.
[22:12] <tomreyn> Bray90820: in case you decide against applying the BIOS update now (although i would very much recommend it) and would prefer to review the error you run into more, this is your search term:  [drm:intel_pipe_update_end [i915]] *ERROR* Atomic update failure on pipe B
[22:12] <df00z> ppf: i am not sure what package contains llvm-config off the top of my head.  it might be llvm-3.8, or llvm-3.8 dev..hold on there is a way to check
[22:13] <df00z> "llvm"
[22:13] <df00z> llvm and llvm:i386 will naturally conflict
[22:13] <ppf> yes
[22:13] <atlasloewenherz> Jordan_U: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2d3378bd1f036b42bdb3e9e4ac12b43f
[22:14] <ppf> but you'll need the 32bit one if you want this to work
[22:14] <kegan_> sudo: pam_ecryptfs: pam_sm_authenticate: /home/myusername is already mounted
[22:14] <kegan_> why does this keep happening?
[22:15] <kegan_> I know that's not enough information; where do I look to provide more?
[22:15] <df00z> ppf: that will break other stuff on my system, the whole point of multiarch is to have stuff side by side
[22:15] <Jordan_U> atlasloewenherz: Is homelv what you're looking for?
[22:15] <ppf> df00z: yeah, but are ther multiarch packages for llvm?
[22:15] <df00z> for dev and libs, eyah
[22:16] <atlasloewenherz> Jordan_U: that's the local storage ( raid over local physical disks) the one im looking for is iscsi based
[22:16] <df00z> Anyway thats why I said im giving up, Ubuntu isn't a great system for this kind of work
[22:16] <atlasloewenherz> Jordan_U: the iscsi based block device is /dev/sdh
[22:17] <Jordan_U> df00z: apt-get build-dep mesa didn't help?
[22:17] <ppf> df00z: you can set up a chroot with all 32bit in it
[22:17] <df00z> Jordan_U: Nah, it only installed the 64 bit prereqs for mesa
[22:17] <atlasloewenherz> Jordan_U: i'am able to see the partition when i fdisk -l /dev/sdh1
[22:17] <kegan_> parameter rootcheck=no... asks for auth, what does the param mean, then?
[22:17] <df00z> ppf: Yeah - if I did that though I'd need to manually configure all of the prereqs compiling from source, correct?
[22:18] <df00z> Or does ubuntu have a way to install working packages to a chroot?
[22:18] <df00z> like could I install llvm:386 to a chroot?
[22:18] <atlasloewenherz> Jordan_U: but when i try to vgcreate /dev/sdh1 its not working as the /dev/sdh1 is not there
[22:18] <ppf> you can in stall anything in a chroot
[22:19] <ppf> anyways, i don't know the mesa build scripts. shouldn't you be able to tell it where LLVM is installed
[22:21] <ppf> and same thing for expat, probably
[22:22] <df00z> hm, so I should look at debootstrap maybe
[22:22] <ppf> df00z: yah that'd be the way to do it
[22:22] <Jordan_U> atlasloewenherz: sudo partx -a /dev/sdh1
[22:22] <ppf> but the other way might be faster
[22:22] <Jordan_U> atlasloewenherz: Sorry, "sudo partx -a /dev/sdh".
[22:23] <Festour> Hey, while installing one programm, aptitude removed linux-signed-image-4.4.0-38-generic, and configured grub
[22:23] <Festour> What will happens, when i will reboot?
[22:24] <ppf> Festour: dpkg -l linux-signed-image
[22:24] <kegan_> unetbootin won't download the iso I need
[22:24] <kegan_> pam_ecryptfs throws an already mounted on my env var
[22:24] <Festour> ppf: said what didnt found any package
[22:24] <kegan_> why might it be that after an hour or two (seemingly not synced w/ cron jobs) of being logged into ubuntu, I keep getting this pam_ecryptfs error?
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[22:25] <kegan_> like they don't have filters or something
[22:25] <ppf> Festour: dpkg -l linux-image-generic
[22:25] <atlasloewenherz> Jordan_U: after partx -a /dev/sdh the /dev/sdh1 partition is there
[22:26] <Festour> ppf: ii  linux-image-ge 4.4.0.45.48  amd64        Generic Linux kernel image
[22:26] <Jordan_U> atlasloewenherz: Great, you should be able to access the LVM volume now.
[22:26] <ppf> Festour: well, you're good
[22:27] <Festour> ppf: okay, thanks
[22:27] <atlasloewenherz> Jordan_U: but still i can not vgcreate on it
[22:27] <atlasloewenherz> Jordan_U: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/be4f7da2fb30c10d301848ef1e0ef9e5
[22:27] <Festour> ppf: also, do you know how to reinstall arial font? Chrome gets crazy when he use this font
[22:28] <ppf> 'reinstall'?
[22:28] <ppf> arial isn't free
[22:28] <NinjaWilsy> YAY, Finally back on Ubuntu!!!
[22:28] <kegan_> is there a preferred place to throw notes regarding your installation's configuration?
[22:28] <kegan_> e.g. I uninstalled this package because I hate it, but I might not hate it in the future
[22:29] <NinjaWilsy> It's been a few years... any recommendations? Like must have apps, or anything?
[22:29] <kegan_> just curious if there's a convention; happy enough to just make a text file
[22:29] <Festour> ppf: before it was fine, but when i installed additionals fonts for subtitles for anime, its started crazy, in engilsh, all displayed on upper case, and on russian, its DiSpLaYeD LiKe ThIs
[22:30] <Festour> ppf: i think what if i reinstall that font, it will fix it
[22:30] <atlasloewenherz> Jordan_U: the syslog: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2b91e68fe855c488bee7483179859373
[22:31] <ppf> df00z: so i just checked out mesa for you.
[22:31] <NinjaWilsy> Or maybe is there a welcome to Ubuntu thread somewhere that has things like that?
[22:31] <ppf> --with-llvm-prefix      Prefix for LLVM installations in non-standard
[22:31] <ppf> (this is for configure)
[22:31] <ppf> did you try that?
[22:31] <lion4407> I have ubuntu 16.10 installed on a usb...I am having trouble getting the openvpn option on network manager.  I have installed openvpn, network-manager-openvpn, network-manager-gnome.. I have even completely uninstalled those and reinstalled using synaptic packagage manager ...I have also restarted network manager using command prompt as well as rebooting. the openvpn option still does not show.
[22:32] <ppf> lion4407: network-manager-openvpn-gnome?
[22:33] <lion4407> ppf i did not see that on syanptic package manager or on terminal..is there a reason that might not be showing?
[22:33] <croberts> i know for vpnc it didnt show up with 16.04 and had to do network-manager-vpnc-gnome
[22:33] <croberts> in 15.x it was there by default it seemed
[22:34] <lion4407> is network-manager-openvpn-gnome still an active package in 16.10?
[22:34] <k1l_> yes it is
[22:34] <lion4407> it was not showing
[22:34] <k1l_> !info  network-manager-openvpn-gnome
[22:34] <MarGul> when using chroot_local_users=YES in vsftpd and then setting chmod 555 on the home dir I still get 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()
[22:34] <MarGul> . Can solve it with allow_wirtable_chroot=YES but that is said to be a big security risk. Any way to solve this?
[22:34] <k1l_> lion4407: make sure universe is enabled
[22:34] <lion4407> kil_ how do i do that
[22:34] <lion4407> is that a package?
[22:35] <k1l_> lion4407: no, universe is a repo.
[22:35] <lion4407> how do you add a repo?
[22:35] <lion4407> in sources?
[22:35] <ppf> MarGul: https://www.benscobie.com/fixing-500-oops-vsftpd-refusing-to-run-with-writable-root-inside-chroot/
[22:35] <ppf> tried that?
[22:35] <k1l_> lion4407: use the systemsettings
[22:35] <lion4407> and do what?
[22:36] <lion4407> details please :)
[22:36] <k1l_> lion4407: come on.
[22:36] <MarGul> ppf, yes I tried the chmod a-w /home/user and I still get the same. I can do allow_writable_chroot=YES and it works but it's a security issue apparently
[22:36] <lion4407> kil_ don't assume every knows how to do that :)
[22:37] <lion4407> so you can add a repo in systemsettings?
[22:37] <k1l_> lion4407: open the system settings and start  learning how to solve issues. its not rocketscience to find the setting for the repos in the gui.
[22:37] <lion4407> kil_ wow thats for the smart ass attitude
[22:37] <MarGul> ppf, I should add that I have /customers/user where /customers is a mounted file share from Azure (if that makes any difference)
[22:37] <k1l_> lion4407: you are just lazy
[22:37] <lion4407> this is why your tech support if horrible.
[22:38] <kegan_> this is FREE
[22:38] <lion4407> lazy?
[22:38] <k1l_> lion4407: and you are here often enough and insulting others, so stop playing dumb now because you are lazy.
[22:38] <lion4407> kil_ your a fucking bitch how is that
[22:38] <kegan_> dude, I've asked about 10 questions everyone in here ignored, and I'm googling and trying to work it out
[22:38] <lion4407> faggot
[22:38] <kegan_> goodbye
[22:40] <df00z> ppf: thanks
[22:40] <df00z> Jordan_U: thanks
[22:40] <ppf> df00z: check ./configure --help
[22:40] <df00z> ppf: doing chroot way, already almost done
[22:40] <ppf> alright
[22:40] <df00z> multiarch sucks!
[22:40] <ppf> let me know if it works out for you :)
[22:41] <df00z> Yeah it will\is working.  It's already going haha
[22:41] <df00z> ill just need to copy the two libraries I need out to my main system once they are built
[22:41] <df00z> im messing around with gallium-nine, its pretty awesome!
[22:43] <kil_is_a_fag> hi fag
[22:43] <kil_is_a_fag> yor a little bitch
[22:43] <kil_is_a_fag> cock sucking bitch
[22:43] <kegan_> sigh
[22:43] <kil_is_a_fag> hahaha
[22:43] <df00z> um
[22:43] <kil_is_a_fag> fag
[22:43] <kil_is_a_fag> alert
[22:43] <kil_is_a_fag> fag
[22:43] <kegan_> thanks
[22:43] <df00z> whats the motivation for that anyway
[22:43] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[22:43] <kegan_>  he was not content with the answers he received
[22:43] <kegan_> raged
[22:44] <kegan_> hello, friend :)
[22:44] <OnkelTem> My external HDD doesn't work via USB3 motherboard port on Ubuntu 16.04. Any ideas? I think I can copy-paste the output of dmesg
[22:44] <OnkelTem> if that may help
[22:44] <k1l_> lets not mind the trolls :) the will get bored if we dont pay attention
[22:44] <ppf> k1l_ is making friends! :D
[22:44] <ppf> OnkelTem: yes please
[22:44] <kegan_> at what point does it fail
[22:44] <kegan_> logs
[22:46] <OnkelTem> ppf: http://apaste.info/ZTfOq
[22:46] <kil_is_a_bitch> rofl
[22:46] <kil_is_a_bitch> what a faggot
[22:46] <kil_is_a_bitch> bitch
[22:47] <kil_is_a_bitch> loser
[22:47] <kil_is_a_bitch> hahahaha
[22:47] <kil_is_a_bitch> kil you a dip shit
[22:47] <OnkelTem> ppf: dunno actually where the beginning is so I just copy-pasted a repeating part
[22:47] <ppf> OnkelTem: usb 2-4: USB disconnect, device number 7
[22:47] <df00z> OnkelTem: Using a hub?  Or raw port?
[22:47] <ppf> that sounds like a hardware issue
[22:47] <OnkelTem> it is raw
[22:48] <ppf> can you verify the drive is okay?
[22:48] <OnkelTem> well, I've connected it to another workstation and noticed no issues. I can retry
[22:48] <mxmlnk> hu
[22:48] <ppf> might be a power issue?
[22:48] <kegan_> that seems like enough
[22:48] <df00z> What version of gentoo, and like is it an older or newer pc?
[22:48] <nicomachus> !smart | OnkelTem test it with this
[22:48] <df00z> if its like a bleeding edge motherboard or chipset id say a kernel update might be helpful
[22:48] <nicomachus> uhhh... sorry. I read HDD instead of USB. ignore me.
[22:48] <ppf> does the drive have an external power supply?
[22:49] <OnkelTem> ppf: no it hasn't. It's powered by a single cable - the usb
[22:49] <OnkelTem> ppf: I too thought about power issue. Not sure how to be sure
[22:50] <OnkelTem> :)
[22:50] <kil_is_a_bitch> rofl
[22:50] <kil_is_a_bitch> what a faggot
[22:50] <kil_is_a_bitch> hahah
[22:50] <ikonia> abr kil_is_a_bitch bye
[22:50] <OnkelTem> lol, what a patient person
[22:51] <ppf> OnkelTem: tried another cable/port?
[22:51] <_beast_> Hey guys, I could use some help with a workaround on an ubuntu system, can you help?
[22:51] <Ben64> _beast_: ask your question for best results
[22:51] <kegan_> just ask
[22:51] <th0r> OnkelTem, one way to check. First, plug a thumb drive into that port. If the thumb drive works the port itself is probably prety well off. Then plug the drive into another usb port. If it works, the drive is OK and it is probablypower
[22:51] <OnkelTem> ppf: actually no :) shame on me. Everything looks pretty brand new - everything: port, cable, the device. But I'll try that also.
[22:53] <_beast_> Thanks, I have an Ubuntu 16.04 system that is running on a laptop with a screen that works ~half the time. I don't really need it to have a screen, but I do need sshd to start before the login screen, or to bypass the login screen, so that I can use the computer as a headless system. Is this possible or should I just install a new version/distro on there that can handle that sort of situation?
[22:54] <ppf> _beast_: i'm not sure i understand the problem.
[22:54] <Ben64> _beast_: sshd, when installed, will start when the computer starts
[22:54] <simon5504> Kil_ is a cock sucking fag with no life and does not know shit about tech support...what a rude bitch
[22:54] <simon5504> rofl
[22:54] <_beast_> It starts at login
[22:54] <simon5504> what a faggot
[22:54] <ppf> _beast_: no
[22:55] <kegan_> i know this is likely nothing, but i must ask given the fact that the drive is for repairing another partition
[22:55] <kegan_> it's not mounted, fdisk -l does not find it, yet it's still lit up as though R/W cycles are firing
[22:55] <Ben64> _beast_: no
[22:55] <_beast_> I'll check it again.
[22:56] <kegan_> so, i don't want yank it
[22:58] <Kendos> Hi :à
[22:58] <kegan_> hi friend
[22:59] <Kendos> I have a little problem... While manipulating my partition table, I did a mistake and deleted it. I wanted to re-create a new partition on the same place, with the same size, but the fs is not longer linked to the partition (i suppose)
[22:59] <_beast_> Ah, this actually looks like a problem. When I booted it last time, the screen wasn't working, and I logged in blindly. This time, I can see what's happening and it is not connected to the network. When I click on my Wi-Fi, it says "Failed to add/activate connection: (1) insufficient privileges. Alright, so what do I need to chmod to get it to connect to wifi while at login?
[23:00] <Ben64> Kendos: you can try testdisk
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[23:00]  * mark5506 bends that little faggot kil_ over and spreads those sweet cheeks apart..and slides his hot cock into kil_'s sweet pretty ass...as kil_ begs for more of his cock mark fucks kil_ with a strong fucking as kil_ begs more and more of his cock pouding his ass.....then mark cums deep in his ass and kil_ groans in pleasure.....
[23:00] <Kendos> I approxiatly know where the fs is, but don't know how to find it. I used testdisk but it takes too long to scan the whole disk and it finds many partitions, like 20 "Linux", so I don't know which one is the good one.
[23:00]  * mark5506 bends that little faggot kil_ over and spreads those sweet cheeks apart..and slides his hot cock into kil_'s sweet pretty ass...as kil_ begs for more of his cock mark fucks kil_ with a strong fucking as kil_ begs more and more of his cock pouding his ass.....then mark cums deep in his ass and kil_ groans in pleasure.....
[23:00] <_beast_> man, what's with this hatespam?
[23:01] <lordcirth> Flannel, is it worth blocking joins for a bit?
[23:01] <Ben64> kid with too much time on his hands
[23:01] <_beast_> I guess
[23:01] <_beast_>  jeez
[23:08] <Pr0ny> Hey there... WTF is that
[23:08] <Kendos> Ben64: still here ?
[23:09] <Ben64> Kendos: yep
[23:09] <Kendos> So as I said before this bug, I already tried
[23:09] <Kendos> but it takes a very long time for nothing, as testdisk find 20 or 30 partitions
[23:11] <Smn> guys, I've had 2 drives die in under a year with very light usage with ubuntu, and I'm reading this https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/07/10/30/1742258/ubuntu-may-be-killing-your-laptops-hard-drive and wondering if it is still a problem, the computer is not a laptop, but it uses laptop components(all-in-one)so I wonder if it'd have the same behavior
[23:11] <ikonia> Smn: its more likley it's just bad luck
[23:12] <Grandolf> i use a PC< but ive used ubuntu for quite a while w/o any problems
[23:13] <ppf> currently just 16.04
[23:14] <Guest4045> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerManagement the wiki is also incomplete, the last version specific fix is for 10.04 and even at that point it didn't come by default
[23:14] <Guest4045> I don't know why my name was changed, but I can't change it back, either
[23:14] <_beast_> so that was weird, but it turns out I had a bug, so I'm trying dist-upgrade now, since it says it was fixed in 16.10
[23:14] <Katronix> ppf, is it only on Ubuntu? or also Xubuntu and others?
[23:14] <ppf> Katronix: all the same
[23:15] <ppf> _beast_: dist-upgrade != upgrade to 16.10
[23:15] <_beast_> oh
[23:15] <ppf> for release upgrades run do-release-upgrade
[23:15] <ppf> but backup first ;)
[23:16] <_beast_> nothing to back up I've barely used it in awhile, I'm trying to set it up for a specific purpose. Thanks though
[23:19] <Random832> when apt has a configuration file change, why can't it show me all three versions
[23:19] <Random832> i.e. the original before and after, and the new one it wants to install
[23:19] <Random832> like i don't know what the hell i did to UPower.conf
[23:20] <Bashing-om> Guest4045: Try ' /msg nickserv regain <nick> <password> ' - in your status window - to regain your nick after the netsplit had renamed "you" .
[23:20] <ppf> what would the 'after' version contain
[23:21] <Random832> ppf: the point is it's saying that there are differences between the current version and the one that was originally installed with the package
[23:21] <Random832> "after" would be the current version
[23:21] <ppf> Random832: just open it in an editor?
[23:22] <Random832> ...but it only lets me see two versions
[23:22] <Random832> it doesn't let me see the original from the previous version of the package so i can see what the local changes are
[23:22] <ppf> ah
[23:23] <th0r> Random832, it shows your present file and the new one. All you have to do to get the original is note where you added stuff. You do comment your changes, don't you?
[23:23] <ppf> Random832: most of the time your modified file is the one you want to keep
[23:23] <Random832> all i'm saying is git can do it so why can't apt
[23:24] <smn> thanks, Bashing-om
[23:24] <ppf> Random832: because no one taught it to
[23:28] <insy> eh ok stupid question   i want to install libre office but according to the wiki i need to knw if i use gome or KDE ,i have  Lubuntu 16.04 installed so how can i check it
[23:29] <ikonia> insy: lubuntu is lxde
[23:30] <insy> thats what i thought at first   so how does that work with the wiki ...  (wiki.ubuntu.com/libreoffice
[23:30] <ppf> skip that part
[23:31] <insy> so just run sudo apt-get install ....?
[23:31] <ppf> yes
[23:32] <ppf> and skip the -gnome/-kde package
[23:33] <insy> ehm so to be sure whats best way to install the full version?
[23:34] <ppf> sudo apt install libreoffice
[23:35] <insy> apt or apt-get?
[23:35] <ppf> aot
[23:35] <ppf> if your ubuntu is new
[23:35] <insy> week old
[23:36] <insy> so that wikipage wasnt much help should get here sooner.. tnx
[23:37] <ppf> the page says basically the same thing :)
[23:38] <insy> well yes just the kde/gnome thingy confused me
[23:50] <Olgdfyy> Hi
[23:51] <paul235> I just saw a ad on craigslist that says there is a guy here named Kil_ that loves to drink cum...I really enjoy dropping a load of cum in a guy's mouth.....anyone here know how to contact this cum bucket named kil_...I like to see hot sticky cum oozing down a guy's throat as he is choking on my big rock hard cock..
[23:52] <nicomachus> just +b the whole /24
[23:52] <nicomachus> or is he hopping IPs?
[23:53] <nacc> Random832: i believe what you are asking for is, essentially, what etckeeper does
[23:54] <nacc> Random832: putting it in dpkg would be ... a lot of effort potentially? not sure, it's not an apt thing, though
[23:58] <bindi> hi, i just installed 16.10 fresh and i have a gtx 680, installed nvidia-370 from the ppa graphics-drivers and now i cant log in, and the resolution is messed up
[23:58] <bindi> tried -367 and -304 as well
[23:59] <sarah1207>  kil_ used to be my boyfriend but his little cock could not satisfy my smoking hot pussy..LADIES KIL_ HAS A FUCKING SMALL COCK.....he has to find ultra tight virgins for them to feel anything at all....ITS SO FUCKING SAD!!!!!
[23:59] <sarah1207>  kil_ used to be my boyfriend but his little cock could not satisfy my smoking hot pussy..LADIES KIL_ HAS A FUCKING SMALL COCK.....he has to find ultra tight virgins for them to feel anything at all....ITS SO FUCKING SAD!!!!!
[23:59] <nicomachus> !ops
[23:59] <sarah1207>  kil_ used to be my boyfriend but his little cock could not satisfy my smoking hot pussy..LADIES KIL_ HAS A FUCKING SMALL COCK.....he has to find ultra tight virgins for them to feel anything at all....ITS SO FUCKING SAD!!!!!
[23:59] <sarah1207> rofl