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ducassemorning all06:32
Bashing-omTop o' the morn'n ducasse . A good day also to ya .06:33
ducassehi Bashing-om - how are you? did you sort out the freeze problem?06:34
Bashing-omducasse: Well .. Indications are that it is indeed Bios .. My next step is to update bios .06:35
ducasseBashing-om: right. have you looked for updates on the gigabyte site?06:36
Bashing-omNo, I have looked around .. not at all sure now who I can trust for the 23 version update .06:37
ducassethe maker of the motherboard usually has bios updates available for many, many years, so you should be able to find one.06:38
Bashing-omducasse: Abit went out several years ago .. I be slow about deciding what source to trust .06:39
ducasseah, i thought you had gigabyte. they didn't get bought up or anything, they just went bust?06:40
Bashing-omducasse: Be that they did get bought up, I do not recall the final disposition . be an Abit KN9 SLI board .. Think'n about finding a replacement bios chip .06:48
ducasseBashing-om: seems they got bought up and is now called "universal abit". don't know if that helps...06:50
Bashing-omducasse: Yeah ,, I refuse now to get in a hurry . Kinda backing down and regrouping after all the frustration of trying to make things work - in a unworkable situation . I get bios updated will be in a better position .06:52
ducasseif you have another machine, you could also use the netconsole to see if there are messages on freeze... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Netconsole06:54
Bashing-omI am leaning toward replacing the chip and keeping the old one as a better option than flashing the present chip .06:54
Bashing-omducasse: Yeah .. thought that too about bringing another box on-line . I got another I was think'n about for a media center .06:56
ducasseright, if you don't already have an extra box it's a bit of a hassle. media centers are nice :)06:57
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Bashing-omWell .. we spend most of our time here on these terminals . Presently no push for a media center . By the way .. I do appreciate all the great input to find a solution for my little problem .06:59
ducasseno problem, we're here to help, after all :) i've been thinking of building a very slim x terminal for my living room, rather than always using a laptop with small screen and poor keyboard...07:01
Bashing-omducasse: Look how cheap a chip is ! http://www.biosflash.com/e/Bios-Chips-ABIT-KN9-SLI-55.htm ! Wow . // My comfort zone for what I do with my system is a desktop and a full size keyboard !07:07
ducasseBashing-om: that's not a bad price, seems like a good solution. i just bought a new mechanical keyboard, so i've got a spare one. just need the screen and a raspberry pi or something.07:11
Bashing-omI have an old ps/2 mechanical keyboard . I guess it will be burried with me when we go . I kinda like it .. and stuck on it .07:18
ducassei've used mechanical keyboards on and off for many years, but first started buying and using them exclusively a few years back. not willing to let go of the one i've got now.07:22
Bashing-omOK, My time at an end ... calling it a night .. G nite08:08
BluesKajHiyas all08:40
ducasse\o BluesKaj08:54
BluesKajHi ducasse09:00
ducasseBluesKaj: quiet today, typical weekend. how are you - any plans for the day?09:02
BluesKajno plans for today..up early due to insomnia, maybe a nap this afternoon ...just setting up kodi on my 14.04 partition09:09
BluesKajand you ?09:09
ducassenot much, i'm going to play a bit with the new access point, then just kill time until it's time to go out and get a huge burger for dinner :)09:12
* BluesKaj nods :-)09:13
BluesKajkodi is unstable on 16.04 and 16.10, or vice versa...not sure whether it's kodi or the OSs. We need a stable OS for the HTPC, hence 14.0409:14
ducassehmm, odd. i don't think i've tried it on either, the last ubuntu i ran kodi on was probably 15.10. does it crash?09:16
BluesKajno crahes, just takes forever to close, the it crashes X , so either reboot or startx is nrequired09:19
BluesKajthe=then09:19
ducassenasty, is this with the kodi from the repos?09:20
BluesKajyes09:25
ducasseif i were to guess i would say that sounds like a bad interaction with a video driver, you could file a bug. that takes time to get a fix, of course.09:27
BluesKajbut I haven't  tried the ppa version, which I DL's for 14.04 since kodi isn't available there09:27
ducasseright, that could be worth a shot, but for a htpc 14.04 is just fine anyway.09:31
BluesKajyeah, I'm going to use 14.04 for  watching movies and listening to music ...16.10 is for testing and 17.04 soon09:32
ducassestill waiting a while before i upgrade to zesty, i'm not in a hurry :)09:40
BluesKajwell, I09:42
BluesKaj'll probly try it soon , upgrade from 16.10 by changing the source.list with sed. It's on a separate partition, so if it breaks there's no harm done09:45
ducasseright. both my desktop and laptop have / on btrfs now, so i use snapshots for that sort of thing.09:46
BluesKajdunno anything about btrfs , never bothered trying it09:51
BluesKajI'm adventurous to some degree , but a file system that's an unknown to me is a bit more risk than i'm willing to take09:54
ducassebtrfs is nice, but i'm not sure i would trust it with anything important. for that i use zfs, which is rock solid. still, it's nice to be able to rollback the filesystem to an earlier state if something breaks horribly.09:56
BluesKajI see09:59
ducasseit also has stuff like built-in raid etc, but i don't use that. it's mostly comparable to zfs feature-wise, but zfs is a lot older and more mature.10:01
ducasse!info python3 trusty10:07
ubot5`python3 (source: python3-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is important. Version 3.4.0-0ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 8 kB, installed size 100 kB10:08
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EriC^^OerHeks for op!17:29
EriC^^201717:29
EriC^^:D17:29
EriC^^there's a guy in the channel flooding and nobody's doing anything!17:30
ducassethe gimp troll squad are out in full force today..17:38
EriC^^i recently learned mokutil --sb-state17:40
EriC^^to see if secureboot is enabled, always wondered how boot-repair's reports had a line where it says if it's enabled or not17:40
ducasseinteresting, thanks for the tip. never messed much with mokutil, i just disable sb.17:42
OerHekswait, i mixed up virtual servers with fantasy servers18:54
OerHeksnvm18:54
daftykinso018:54
daftykinsthe latter sounds suspicious!18:55
OerHeksall on one subnet.18:56
Bashing-omHere I be once more - another fine day in our nieghborhood .20:45
daftykinswelcome back!20:47
Bashing-om'tis good that I can be here .. is better that daftykins is here .20:49
daftykinson goes the mission!20:51
Bashing-omWe are on it ! We can do it ! 'buntu all things are possible . ( attitude check ?)21:04
daftykinsXD21:08
daftykinsthough a BIOS update is a tad OS agnostic!21:11
Bashing-omdaftykins: Took the easy way out on the Bios thing .. got the replacement chip on the way :)21:12
daftykinsah neat \o/21:15
daftykinsi've not tried to whip one of those chips out, is it going to come with a tool?21:16
Bashing-omdaftykins: Patience is a virtue, needless to say I am anxious as to how this works out . - inquirung minds want to know - now !21:17
Bashing-omdaftykins: Well the tool is the better option, but one can remove the chip with a bent paper clip .21:18
daftykinsah that's neat, vaguely remember reading that works too21:19
Bashing-omwell, I am a firm believer in the right tool for the right job - Murphy's Law - what can go wrong will go wrong .21:27
daftykinsthere is that, annoying to get something with such a unique purpose though21:37
Bashing-omUh Huh ..only take it out as the need arises .. rarely . Now is the hassel and expense justified ?21:43
daftykinsmmm22:00
Bashing-omIn my case. was only a one click deal .. and about $4 USD .. I did opt in .22:05
daftykins:D22:25
daftykinsi keep wishing i had more reason to play with my soldering iron ;)22:26
pauljw:)22:31
Bashing-omLOL22:32
Bashing-omany thoughts here - got me guessing " BOOT_IMAGE=(hd0,msdos1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 to " to - HUH ? in grub.cfg system is mounted 'ro' .22:34
daftykinshad it flagged errors on boot, or is it hardcoded to mount ro in /etc/fstab ?22:37
Bashing-omdaftykins: Nope mount directive in ftab looks good " UUID=3a47f1f1-ed1f-4134-b6aa-be101a7d97b4 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1 "; near as I can know .22:40
Bashing-omdaftykins: Mind ya on the system with the new Nvidia card that has no driver support in 14.04 ... I just never seen the mount option 'to' . Do not know where 'ro' gets reset to 'to' or what 'to' means .22:43
daftykinsoh yeah that's a new one on me too22:49
daftykinswhat file was your quote from?22:49
Bashing-omWell .. I am no longer in a bored state of mind .. Homework to do !22:49
daftykins:>22:50

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