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ducasse | morning all | 06:32 |
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Bashing-om | Top o' the morn'n ducasse . A good day also to ya . | 06:33 |
ducasse | hi Bashing-om - how are you? did you sort out the freeze problem? | 06:34 |
Bashing-om | ducasse: Well .. Indications are that it is indeed Bios .. My next step is to update bios . | 06:35 |
ducasse | Bashing-om: right. have you looked for updates on the gigabyte site? | 06:36 |
Bashing-om | No, I have looked around .. not at all sure now who I can trust for the 23 version update . | 06:37 |
ducasse | the maker of the motherboard usually has bios updates available for many, many years, so you should be able to find one. | 06:38 |
Bashing-om | ducasse: Abit went out several years ago .. I be slow about deciding what source to trust . | 06:39 |
ducasse | ah, i thought you had gigabyte. they didn't get bought up or anything, they just went bust? | 06:40 |
Bashing-om | ducasse: Be that they did get bought up, I do not recall the final disposition . be an Abit KN9 SLI board .. Think'n about finding a replacement bios chip . | 06:48 |
ducasse | Bashing-om: seems they got bought up and is now called "universal abit". don't know if that helps... | 06:50 |
Bashing-om | ducasse: Yeah ,, I refuse now to get in a hurry . Kinda backing down and regrouping after all the frustration of trying to make things work - in a unworkable situation . I get bios updated will be in a better position . | 06:52 |
ducasse | if you have another machine, you could also use the netconsole to see if there are messages on freeze... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Netconsole | 06:54 |
Bashing-om | I am leaning toward replacing the chip and keeping the old one as a better option than flashing the present chip . | 06:54 |
Bashing-om | ducasse: Yeah .. thought that too about bringing another box on-line . I got another I was think'n about for a media center . | 06:56 |
ducasse | right, if you don't already have an extra box it's a bit of a hassle. media centers are nice :) | 06:57 |
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Bashing-om | Well .. we spend most of our time here on these terminals . Presently no push for a media center . By the way .. I do appreciate all the great input to find a solution for my little problem . | 06:59 |
ducasse | no problem, we're here to help, after all :) i've been thinking of building a very slim x terminal for my living room, rather than always using a laptop with small screen and poor keyboard... | 07:01 |
Bashing-om | ducasse: Look how cheap a chip is ! http://www.biosflash.com/e/Bios-Chips-ABIT-KN9-SLI-55.htm ! Wow . // My comfort zone for what I do with my system is a desktop and a full size keyboard ! | 07:07 |
ducasse | Bashing-om: that's not a bad price, seems like a good solution. i just bought a new mechanical keyboard, so i've got a spare one. just need the screen and a raspberry pi or something. | 07:11 |
Bashing-om | I have an old ps/2 mechanical keyboard . I guess it will be burried with me when we go . I kinda like it .. and stuck on it . | 07:18 |
ducasse | i've used mechanical keyboards on and off for many years, but first started buying and using them exclusively a few years back. not willing to let go of the one i've got now. | 07:22 |
Bashing-om | OK, My time at an end ... calling it a night .. G nite | 08:08 |
BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 08:40 |
ducasse | \o BluesKaj | 08:54 |
BluesKaj | Hi ducasse | 09:00 |
ducasse | BluesKaj: quiet today, typical weekend. how are you - any plans for the day? | 09:02 |
BluesKaj | no plans for today..up early due to insomnia, maybe a nap this afternoon ...just setting up kodi on my 14.04 partition | 09:09 |
BluesKaj | and you ? | 09:09 |
ducasse | not much, i'm going to play a bit with the new access point, then just kill time until it's time to go out and get a huge burger for dinner :) | 09:12 |
* BluesKaj nods :-) | 09:13 | |
BluesKaj | kodi is unstable on 16.04 and 16.10, or vice versa...not sure whether it's kodi or the OSs. We need a stable OS for the HTPC, hence 14.04 | 09:14 |
ducasse | hmm, odd. i don't think i've tried it on either, the last ubuntu i ran kodi on was probably 15.10. does it crash? | 09:16 |
BluesKaj | no crahes, just takes forever to close, the it crashes X , so either reboot or startx is nrequired | 09:19 |
BluesKaj | the=then | 09:19 |
ducasse | nasty, is this with the kodi from the repos? | 09:20 |
BluesKaj | yes | 09:25 |
ducasse | if i were to guess i would say that sounds like a bad interaction with a video driver, you could file a bug. that takes time to get a fix, of course. | 09:27 |
BluesKaj | but I haven't tried the ppa version, which I DL's for 14.04 since kodi isn't available there | 09:27 |
ducasse | right, that could be worth a shot, but for a htpc 14.04 is just fine anyway. | 09:31 |
BluesKaj | yeah, I'm going to use 14.04 for watching movies and listening to music ...16.10 is for testing and 17.04 soon | 09:32 |
ducasse | still waiting a while before i upgrade to zesty, i'm not in a hurry :) | 09:40 |
BluesKaj | well, I | 09:42 |
BluesKaj | 'll probly try it soon , upgrade from 16.10 by changing the source.list with sed. It's on a separate partition, so if it breaks there's no harm done | 09:45 |
ducasse | right. both my desktop and laptop have / on btrfs now, so i use snapshots for that sort of thing. | 09:46 |
BluesKaj | dunno anything about btrfs , never bothered trying it | 09:51 |
BluesKaj | I'm adventurous to some degree , but a file system that's an unknown to me is a bit more risk than i'm willing to take | 09:54 |
ducasse | btrfs is nice, but i'm not sure i would trust it with anything important. for that i use zfs, which is rock solid. still, it's nice to be able to rollback the filesystem to an earlier state if something breaks horribly. | 09:56 |
BluesKaj | I see | 09:59 |
ducasse | it also has stuff like built-in raid etc, but i don't use that. it's mostly comparable to zfs feature-wise, but zfs is a lot older and more mature. | 10:01 |
ducasse | !info python3 trusty | 10:07 |
ubot5` | python3 (source: python3-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is important. Version 3.4.0-0ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 8 kB, installed size 100 kB | 10:08 |
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EriC^^ | OerHeks for op! | 17:29 |
EriC^^ | 2017 | 17:29 |
EriC^^ | :D | 17:29 |
EriC^^ | there's a guy in the channel flooding and nobody's doing anything! | 17:30 |
ducasse | the gimp troll squad are out in full force today.. | 17:38 |
EriC^^ | i recently learned mokutil --sb-state | 17:40 |
EriC^^ | to see if secureboot is enabled, always wondered how boot-repair's reports had a line where it says if it's enabled or not | 17:40 |
ducasse | interesting, thanks for the tip. never messed much with mokutil, i just disable sb. | 17:42 |
OerHeks | wait, i mixed up virtual servers with fantasy servers | 18:54 |
OerHeks | nvm | 18:54 |
daftykins | o0 | 18:54 |
daftykins | the latter sounds suspicious! | 18:55 |
OerHeks | all on one subnet. | 18:56 |
Bashing-om | Here I be once more - another fine day in our nieghborhood . | 20:45 |
daftykins | welcome back! | 20:47 |
Bashing-om | 'tis good that I can be here .. is better that daftykins is here . | 20:49 |
daftykins | on goes the mission! | 20:51 |
Bashing-om | We are on it ! We can do it ! 'buntu all things are possible . ( attitude check ?) | 21:04 |
daftykins | XD | 21:08 |
daftykins | though a BIOS update is a tad OS agnostic! | 21:11 |
Bashing-om | daftykins: Took the easy way out on the Bios thing .. got the replacement chip on the way :) | 21:12 |
daftykins | ah neat \o/ | 21:15 |
daftykins | i've not tried to whip one of those chips out, is it going to come with a tool? | 21:16 |
Bashing-om | daftykins: Patience is a virtue, needless to say I am anxious as to how this works out . - inquirung minds want to know - now ! | 21:17 |
Bashing-om | daftykins: Well the tool is the better option, but one can remove the chip with a bent paper clip . | 21:18 |
daftykins | ah that's neat, vaguely remember reading that works too | 21:19 |
Bashing-om | well, I am a firm believer in the right tool for the right job - Murphy's Law - what can go wrong will go wrong . | 21:27 |
daftykins | there is that, annoying to get something with such a unique purpose though | 21:37 |
Bashing-om | Uh Huh ..only take it out as the need arises .. rarely . Now is the hassel and expense justified ? | 21:43 |
daftykins | mmm | 22:00 |
Bashing-om | In my case. was only a one click deal .. and about $4 USD .. I did opt in . | 22:05 |
daftykins | :D | 22:25 |
daftykins | i keep wishing i had more reason to play with my soldering iron ;) | 22:26 |
pauljw | :) | 22:31 |
Bashing-om | LOL | 22:32 |
Bashing-om | any thoughts here - got me guessing " BOOT_IMAGE=(hd0,msdos1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 to " to - HUH ? in grub.cfg system is mounted 'ro' . | 22:34 |
daftykins | had it flagged errors on boot, or is it hardcoded to mount ro in /etc/fstab ? | 22:37 |
Bashing-om | daftykins: Nope mount directive in ftab looks good " UUID=3a47f1f1-ed1f-4134-b6aa-be101a7d97b4 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 "; near as I can know . | 22:40 |
Bashing-om | daftykins: Mind ya on the system with the new Nvidia card that has no driver support in 14.04 ... I just never seen the mount option 'to' . Do not know where 'ro' gets reset to 'to' or what 'to' means . | 22:43 |
daftykins | oh yeah that's a new one on me too | 22:49 |
daftykins | what file was your quote from? | 22:49 |
Bashing-om | Well .. I am no longer in a bored state of mind .. Homework to do ! | 22:49 |
daftykins | :> | 22:50 |
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