=== pavlushka is now known as Guest62335 === Guest62335 is now known as pavlushka === pavlushka is now known as Guest53058 === Guest53058 is now known as pavlushka === dax is now known as thefam === thefam is now known as famas === famas is now known as dax [06:32] morning all [06:33] Top o' the morn'n ducasse . A good day also to ya . [06:34] hi Bashing-om - how are you? did you sort out the freeze problem? [06:35] ducasse: Well .. Indications are that it is indeed Bios .. My next step is to update bios . [06:36] Bashing-om: right. have you looked for updates on the gigabyte site? [06:37] No, I have looked around .. not at all sure now who I can trust for the 23 version update . [06:38] the maker of the motherboard usually has bios updates available for many, many years, so you should be able to find one. [06:39] ducasse: Abit went out several years ago .. I be slow about deciding what source to trust . [06:40] ah, i thought you had gigabyte. they didn't get bought up or anything, they just went bust? [06:48] ducasse: Be that they did get bought up, I do not recall the final disposition . be an Abit KN9 SLI board .. Think'n about finding a replacement bios chip . [06:50] Bashing-om: seems they got bought up and is now called "universal abit". don't know if that helps... [06:52] ducasse: Yeah ,, I refuse now to get in a hurry . Kinda backing down and regrouping after all the frustration of trying to make things work - in a unworkable situation . I get bios updated will be in a better position . [06:54] if you have another machine, you could also use the netconsole to see if there are messages on freeze... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Netconsole [06:54] I am leaning toward replacing the chip and keeping the old one as a better option than flashing the present chip . [06:56] ducasse: Yeah .. thought that too about bringing another box on-line . I got another I was think'n about for a media center . [06:57] right, if you don't already have an extra box it's a bit of a hassle. media centers are nice :) === Guest19338 is now known as PaulW2U [06:59] Well .. we spend most of our time here on these terminals . Presently no push for a media center . By the way .. I do appreciate all the great input to find a solution for my little problem . [07:01] no problem, we're here to help, after all :) i've been thinking of building a very slim x terminal for my living room, rather than always using a laptop with small screen and poor keyboard... [07:07] ducasse: Look how cheap a chip is ! http://www.biosflash.com/e/Bios-Chips-ABIT-KN9-SLI-55.htm ! Wow . // My comfort zone for what I do with my system is a desktop and a full size keyboard ! [07:11] Bashing-om: that's not a bad price, seems like a good solution. i just bought a new mechanical keyboard, so i've got a spare one. just need the screen and a raspberry pi or something. [07:18] I have an old ps/2 mechanical keyboard . I guess it will be burried with me when we go . I kinda like it .. and stuck on it . [07:22] i've used mechanical keyboards on and off for many years, but first started buying and using them exclusively a few years back. not willing to let go of the one i've got now. [08:08] OK, My time at an end ... calling it a night .. G nite [08:40] Hiyas all [08:54] \o BluesKaj [09:00] Hi ducasse [09:02] BluesKaj: quiet today, typical weekend. how are you - any plans for the day? [09:09] no plans for today..up early due to insomnia, maybe a nap this afternoon ...just setting up kodi on my 14.04 partition [09:09] and you ? [09:12] not much, i'm going to play a bit with the new access point, then just kill time until it's time to go out and get a huge burger for dinner :) [09:13] * BluesKaj nods :-) [09:14] kodi is unstable on 16.04 and 16.10, or vice versa...not sure whether it's kodi or the OSs. We need a stable OS for the HTPC, hence 14.04 [09:16] hmm, odd. i don't think i've tried it on either, the last ubuntu i ran kodi on was probably 15.10. does it crash? [09:19] no crahes, just takes forever to close, the it crashes X , so either reboot or startx is nrequired [09:19] the=then [09:20] nasty, is this with the kodi from the repos? [09:25] yes [09:27] if i were to guess i would say that sounds like a bad interaction with a video driver, you could file a bug. that takes time to get a fix, of course. [09:27] but I haven't tried the ppa version, which I DL's for 14.04 since kodi isn't available there [09:31] right, that could be worth a shot, but for a htpc 14.04 is just fine anyway. [09:32] yeah, I'm going to use 14.04 for watching movies and listening to music ...16.10 is for testing and 17.04 soon [09:40] still waiting a while before i upgrade to zesty, i'm not in a hurry :) [09:42] well, I [09:45] 'll probly try it soon , upgrade from 16.10 by changing the source.list with sed. It's on a separate partition, so if it breaks there's no harm done [09:46] right. both my desktop and laptop have / on btrfs now, so i use snapshots for that sort of thing. [09:51] dunno anything about btrfs , never bothered trying it [09:54] I'm adventurous to some degree , but a file system that's an unknown to me is a bit more risk than i'm willing to take [09:56] btrfs is nice, but i'm not sure i would trust it with anything important. for that i use zfs, which is rock solid. still, it's nice to be able to rollback the filesystem to an earlier state if something breaks horribly. [09:59] I see [10:01] it also has stuff like built-in raid etc, but i don't use that. it's mostly comparable to zfs feature-wise, but zfs is a lot older and more mature. [10:07] !info python3 trusty [10:08] python3 (source: python3-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is important. Version 3.4.0-0ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 8 kB, installed size 100 kB === lordievader_b is now known as lordievader [17:29] OerHeks for op! [17:29] 2017 [17:29] :D [17:30] there's a guy in the channel flooding and nobody's doing anything! [17:38] the gimp troll squad are out in full force today.. [17:40] i recently learned mokutil --sb-state [17:40] to see if secureboot is enabled, always wondered how boot-repair's reports had a line where it says if it's enabled or not [17:42] interesting, thanks for the tip. never messed much with mokutil, i just disable sb. [18:54] wait, i mixed up virtual servers with fantasy servers [18:54] nvm [18:54] o0 [18:55] the latter sounds suspicious! [18:56] all on one subnet. [20:45] Here I be once more - another fine day in our nieghborhood . [20:47] welcome back! [20:49] 'tis good that I can be here .. is better that daftykins is here . [20:51] on goes the mission! [21:04] We are on it ! We can do it ! 'buntu all things are possible . ( attitude check ?) [21:08] XD [21:11] though a BIOS update is a tad OS agnostic! [21:12] daftykins: Took the easy way out on the Bios thing .. got the replacement chip on the way :) [21:15] ah neat \o/ [21:16] i've not tried to whip one of those chips out, is it going to come with a tool? [21:17] daftykins: Patience is a virtue, needless to say I am anxious as to how this works out . - inquirung minds want to know - now ! [21:18] daftykins: Well the tool is the better option, but one can remove the chip with a bent paper clip . [21:19] ah that's neat, vaguely remember reading that works too [21:27] well, I am a firm believer in the right tool for the right job - Murphy's Law - what can go wrong will go wrong . [21:37] there is that, annoying to get something with such a unique purpose though [21:43] Uh Huh ..only take it out as the need arises .. rarely . Now is the hassel and expense justified ? [22:00] mmm [22:05] In my case. was only a one click deal .. and about $4 USD .. I did opt in . [22:25] :D [22:26] i keep wishing i had more reason to play with my soldering iron ;) [22:31] :) [22:32] LOL [22:34] any thoughts here - got me guessing " BOOT_IMAGE=(hd0,msdos1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 to " to - HUH ? in grub.cfg system is mounted 'ro' . [22:37] had it flagged errors on boot, or is it hardcoded to mount ro in /etc/fstab ? [22:40] daftykins: Nope mount directive in ftab looks good " UUID=3a47f1f1-ed1f-4134-b6aa-be101a7d97b4 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 "; near as I can know . [22:43] daftykins: Mind ya on the system with the new Nvidia card that has no driver support in 14.04 ... I just never seen the mount option 'to' . Do not know where 'ro' gets reset to 'to' or what 'to' means . [22:49] oh yeah that's a new one on me too [22:49] what file was your quote from? [22:49] Well .. I am no longer in a bored state of mind .. Homework to do ! [22:50] :>