[06:32] <ducasse> morning all
[06:33] <Bashing-om> Top o' the morn'n ducasse . A good day also to ya .
[06:34] <ducasse> hi Bashing-om - how are you? did you sort out the freeze problem?
[06:35] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Well .. Indications are that it is indeed Bios .. My next step is to update bios .
[06:36] <ducasse> Bashing-om: right. have you looked for updates on the gigabyte site?
[06:37] <Bashing-om> No, I have looked around .. not at all sure now who I can trust for the 23 version update .
[06:38] <ducasse> the maker of the motherboard usually has bios updates available for many, many years, so you should be able to find one.
[06:39] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Abit went out several years ago .. I be slow about deciding what source to trust .
[06:40] <ducasse> ah, i thought you had gigabyte. they didn't get bought up or anything, they just went bust?
[06:48] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Be that they did get bought up, I do not recall the final disposition . be an Abit KN9 SLI board .. Think'n about finding a replacement bios chip .
[06:50] <ducasse> Bashing-om: seems they got bought up and is now called "universal abit". don't know if that helps...
[06:52] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Yeah ,, I refuse now to get in a hurry . Kinda backing down and regrouping after all the frustration of trying to make things work - in a unworkable situation . I get bios updated will be in a better position .
[06:54] <ducasse> if you have another machine, you could also use the netconsole to see if there are messages on freeze... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Netconsole
[06:54] <Bashing-om> I am leaning toward replacing the chip and keeping the old one as a better option than flashing the present chip .
[06:56] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Yeah .. thought that too about bringing another box on-line . I got another I was think'n about for a media center .
[06:57] <ducasse> right, if you don't already have an extra box it's a bit of a hassle. media centers are nice :)
[06:59] <Bashing-om> Well .. we spend most of our time here on these terminals . Presently no push for a media center . By the way .. I do appreciate all the great input to find a solution for my little problem .
[07:01] <ducasse> no problem, we're here to help, after all :) i've been thinking of building a very slim x terminal for my living room, rather than always using a laptop with small screen and poor keyboard...
[07:07] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Look how cheap a chip is ! http://www.biosflash.com/e/Bios-Chips-ABIT-KN9-SLI-55.htm ! Wow . // My comfort zone for what I do with my system is a desktop and a full size keyboard !
[07:11] <ducasse> Bashing-om: that's not a bad price, seems like a good solution. i just bought a new mechanical keyboard, so i've got a spare one. just need the screen and a raspberry pi or something.
[07:18] <Bashing-om> I have an old ps/2 mechanical keyboard . I guess it will be burried with me when we go . I kinda like it .. and stuck on it .
[07:22] <ducasse> i've used mechanical keyboards on and off for many years, but first started buying and using them exclusively a few years back. not willing to let go of the one i've got now.
[08:08] <Bashing-om> OK, My time at an end ... calling it a night .. G nite
[08:40] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[08:54] <ducasse> \o BluesKaj
[09:00] <BluesKaj> Hi ducasse
[09:02] <ducasse> BluesKaj: quiet today, typical weekend. how are you - any plans for the day?
[09:09] <BluesKaj> no plans for today..up early due to insomnia, maybe a nap this afternoon ...just setting up kodi on my 14.04 partition
[09:09] <BluesKaj> and you ?
[09:12] <ducasse> not much, i'm going to play a bit with the new access point, then just kill time until it's time to go out and get a huge burger for dinner :)
[09:13]  * BluesKaj nods  :-)
[09:14] <BluesKaj> kodi is unstable on 16.04 and 16.10, or vice versa...not sure whether it's kodi or the OSs. We need a stable OS for the HTPC, hence 14.04
[09:16] <ducasse> hmm, odd. i don't think i've tried it on either, the last ubuntu i ran kodi on was probably 15.10. does it crash?
[09:19] <BluesKaj> no crahes, just takes forever to close, the it crashes X , so either reboot or startx is nrequired
[09:19] <BluesKaj> the=then
[09:20] <ducasse> nasty, is this with the kodi from the repos?
[09:25] <BluesKaj> yes
[09:27] <ducasse> if i were to guess i would say that sounds like a bad interaction with a video driver, you could file a bug. that takes time to get a fix, of course.
[09:27] <BluesKaj> but I haven't  tried the ppa version, which I DL's for 14.04 since kodi isn't available there
[09:31] <ducasse> right, that could be worth a shot, but for a htpc 14.04 is just fine anyway.
[09:32] <BluesKaj> yeah, I'm going to use 14.04 for  watching movies and listening to music ...16.10 is for testing and 17.04 soon
[09:40] <ducasse> still waiting a while before i upgrade to zesty, i'm not in a hurry :)
[09:42] <BluesKaj> well, I
[09:45] <BluesKaj> 'll probly try it soon , upgrade from 16.10 by changing the source.list with sed. It's on a separate partition, so if it breaks there's no harm done
[09:46] <ducasse> right. both my desktop and laptop have / on btrfs now, so i use snapshots for that sort of thing.
[09:51] <BluesKaj> dunno anything about btrfs , never bothered trying it
[09:54] <BluesKaj> I'm adventurous to some degree , but a file system that's an unknown to me is a bit more risk than i'm willing to take
[09:56] <ducasse> btrfs is nice, but i'm not sure i would trust it with anything important. for that i use zfs, which is rock solid. still, it's nice to be able to rollback the filesystem to an earlier state if something breaks horribly.
[09:59] <BluesKaj> I see
[10:01] <ducasse> it also has stuff like built-in raid etc, but i don't use that. it's mostly comparable to zfs feature-wise, but zfs is a lot older and more mature.
[10:07] <ducasse> !info python3 trusty
[10:08] <ubot5`> python3 (source: python3-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is important. Version 3.4.0-0ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 8 kB, installed size 100 kB
[17:29] <EriC^^> OerHeks for op!
[17:29] <EriC^^> 2017
[17:29] <EriC^^> :D
[17:30] <EriC^^> there's a guy in the channel flooding and nobody's doing anything!
[17:38] <ducasse> the gimp troll squad are out in full force today..
[17:40] <EriC^^> i recently learned mokutil --sb-state
[17:40] <EriC^^> to see if secureboot is enabled, always wondered how boot-repair's reports had a line where it says if it's enabled or not
[17:42] <ducasse> interesting, thanks for the tip. never messed much with mokutil, i just disable sb.
[18:54] <OerHeks> wait, i mixed up virtual servers with fantasy servers
[18:54] <OerHeks> nvm
[18:54] <daftykins> o0
[18:55] <daftykins> the latter sounds suspicious!
[18:56] <OerHeks> all on one subnet.
[20:45] <Bashing-om> Here I be once more - another fine day in our nieghborhood .
[20:47] <daftykins> welcome back!
[20:49] <Bashing-om> 'tis good that I can be here .. is better that daftykins is here .
[20:51] <daftykins> on goes the mission!
[21:04] <Bashing-om> We are on it ! We can do it ! 'buntu all things are possible . ( attitude check ?)
[21:08] <daftykins> XD
[21:11] <daftykins> though a BIOS update is a tad OS agnostic!
[21:12] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Took the easy way out on the Bios thing .. got the replacement chip on the way :)
[21:15] <daftykins> ah neat \o/
[21:16] <daftykins> i've not tried to whip one of those chips out, is it going to come with a tool?
[21:17] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Patience is a virtue, needless to say I am anxious as to how this works out . - inquirung minds want to know - now !
[21:18] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Well the tool is the better option, but one can remove the chip with a bent paper clip .
[21:19] <daftykins> ah that's neat, vaguely remember reading that works too
[21:27] <Bashing-om> well, I am a firm believer in the right tool for the right job - Murphy's Law - what can go wrong will go wrong .
[21:37] <daftykins> there is that, annoying to get something with such a unique purpose though
[21:43] <Bashing-om> Uh Huh ..only take it out as the need arises .. rarely . Now is the hassel and expense justified ?
[22:00] <daftykins> mmm
[22:05] <Bashing-om> In my case. was only a one click deal .. and about $4 USD .. I did opt in .
[22:25] <daftykins> :D
[22:26] <daftykins> i keep wishing i had more reason to play with my soldering iron ;)
[22:31] <pauljw> :)
[22:32] <Bashing-om> LOL
[22:34] <Bashing-om> any thoughts here - got me guessing " BOOT_IMAGE=(hd0,msdos1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 to " to - HUH ? in grub.cfg system is mounted 'ro' .
[22:37] <daftykins> had it flagged errors on boot, or is it hardcoded to mount ro in /etc/fstab ?
[22:40] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Nope mount directive in ftab looks good " UUID=3a47f1f1-ed1f-4134-b6aa-be101a7d97b4 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1 "; near as I can know .
[22:43] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Mind ya on the system with the new Nvidia card that has no driver support in 14.04 ... I just never seen the mount option 'to' . Do not know where 'ro' gets reset to 'to' or what 'to' means .
[22:49] <daftykins> oh yeah that's a new one on me too
[22:49] <daftykins> what file was your quote from?
[22:49] <Bashing-om> Well .. I am no longer in a bored state of mind .. Homework to do !
[22:50] <daftykins> :>