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[16:53] <fnatter> hello ubuntu-motu!
[16:54] <fnatter> freeplane in Ubuntu 16.10 is broken due to a broken knopflerfish-osgi 5.2.0-1
[16:54] <fnatter>   update
[16:54] <fnatter> the fix is to sync knopflerfish-osgi 5.2.0-2 (as 5.2.0-1.1) to Ubuntu 16.10
[16:54] <fnatter> rbasak told be to create a SRU for this
[16:54] <fnatter> I have read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[16:54] <fnatter> rbasak: could you help me create the request/report?
[16:55] <fnatter> (continuing our discussion for Wednesday)
[17:01] <fnatter> all: is rbasak even online?
[17:57] <rbasak> fnatter: it's my weekend! I suggest you ask your questions here, and somebody (maybe me) will be able to answer them directly. People don't usually volunteer to answer questions before they know what they are.
[18:18] <fnatter> hi rbasak, it's my weekend too ;-)
[18:18] <fnatter> Which bug shall I populate with my info (Impact / Test Case / Regression Potential, debdiff)?
[18:18] <fnatter> the SRU documentation (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates) assumes that I am a Ubuntu developer, but I am only Debian package maintainer
[18:20] <fnatter> there are two bugs / sub-bugs (tasks?) here:
[18:20] <fnatter> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freeplane/+bug/1631361
[18:20] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1631361 in knopflerfish-osgi (Ubuntu Yakkety) "fails to start in ubuntu 16.10 amd64." [Undecided,Confirmed]
[18:35] <rbasak> fnatter: populate the bug description. A bug has two tasks, but only one description, so you don't need to pick.
[18:35] <rbasak> (this bug, that is)
[18:38] <fnatter> ok, but are you sure to update LP:1631361, even if the problem must be fixed in knopflerfish-osgi?
[18:41] <rbasak> Yes. That's why we have multiple tasks in one bug. One root cause per bug, even if it affects multiple packages.
[18:42] <rbasak> And even if it needs different code changes in different packages, even though that's not the case here.
[18:42] <fnatter> and I shall write in prose about the plan for an SRU, along with Impact / Test Case / Regression Potential, debdiff (attached), proposed changelog entry?
[18:44] <rbasak> Yes please. Also this is a little complex, because the impact is to freeplane users but the fix is in knoplerfish-osgi. So do explain that. You'll need to talk about the regression potential for other users of both freeplane (presumably nil as it's completely broken) and knoplerfish-osgi (any direct users of that package, as well as reverse dependencies).
[18:44] <rbasak> The proposed changelog entry should be part of the debdiff.
[18:49] <fnatter> I create a debdiff between two _existing_ versions of knopflerfish-osgi in Debian. In that case I would have to manipulate the package which would be confusing. I will explain that in the bug, and include the changelog entry in the text.
[18:56] <fnatter> one more question: Is this proposed changelog entry ok?
[18:56] <fnatter> https://paste.debian.net/887503/