[00:00] <nicomachus> you sure did upset someone, k1l_
[00:00] <k1l_> yes. its a known troll from some time ago. he uses vpn/proxies/tor. so its hard to make a ip ban matching.
[00:01] <nicomachus> gotcha. that's what I was curious about.
[00:01] <nicomachus> well, good luck with it then. I'll throw the !ops flag if I see it and they don't get banned quickly
[00:02] <k1l_> yes. we do have an eye on that.
[00:05] <k1l_> @comment 72799
[00:05] <k1l_> its the same guy again.
[00:19] <littlebunnyfufu> I thought Drone` was a bot...
[00:19] <littlebunnyfufu> Oh
[00:19] <littlebunnyfufu> I read it wrong.
[00:53] <lion4407> look fags that guys was rude dont give ops to dickheads
[00:53] <lion4407> im talking about that fag k1l_
[00:54] <lion4407> any questons?
[00:56] <lion4407> !ops
[00:56] <lion4407> who i am lol
[00:56] <lion4407> you dumb fucks did not know
[00:56] <lion4407> rofl
[00:57] <lion4407> even if kline this nick I can be back on in like minutes
[00:57] <lion4407> if you want to waste your time dumb fuck
[00:58] <lion4407> your tech support in #ubuntu is fucking horrible
[00:58] <lion4407> i figured out what was wrong
[00:59] <lion4407> AND NONE OF YOUR DUMB FUCKS SAID THE RIGHT SOLUTION LOL
[00:59] <lion4407> this is probably the worst fucking tech support on freenode
[01:00] <SonikkuAmerica> @login
[01:00] <lion4407> at least in fucking hexchat they can be rude but they USUALLY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE FUCKING TALKING ABOUT
[01:00] <SonikkuAmerica> @btlogin
[01:01] <SonikkuAmerica> @mark 74591 Irate and awful attitude in #u-ops
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh crap
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> @comment 74591 Irate and awful attitude in #u-ops
[01:03] <lion4407> rofl
[01:03] <lion4407> bunch of stupid fucks ...ad that too
[01:03] <elky> your harassment makes it very difficult to do anything about the issue.
[01:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Not to mention building a record against yourself. I would suggest you /part the channel now lion4407
[01:04] <lion4407> i would suggest you get on your knees and open your mom and prepare for cum from my dick
[01:04] <lion4407> mouth lol
[01:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Thank you.
[01:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Also the @mark was a mistake
[01:05] <elky> for the record the ircc is discussing the events leading up to the original ban
[01:05] <SonikkuAmerica> But I see no instance of it in the BT so I think I'm safe.
[01:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh nice, an escalated situation. :P
[01:06] <elky> we don't condone baiting or insulting even the nastiest of trolls.
[01:07] <k1l_> for the record. that user is the same troll making ithe same thing mid 2016 (and some time before in 2015 iirc)
[01:08] <SonikkuAmerica> I may remember the incident from 2015, actually.
[01:10] <SonikkuAmerica> I don't remember it verbatim, of course, but I remember stuff going down against k1l back then. Must be the same guy, 2016 Edition
[01:20] <k1l_> @mark #ubuntu lion4407 some background about lion4407 from non related users seeing that drama again
[01:30] <elky> what?
[01:33] <k1l_> the user kode54 told in #ubuntu what he witnessed in #freenode from the user lately named lion4407
[01:45] <elky> ok, it's best you stop poking at the situation
[01:50] <k1l_> ftr: i am not in #freenode nor do i know kode54 or did talk to him.
[16:18] <hggdh> maybe I missed something, but what happened with #ubuntu-monitor?
[16:18] <hggdh> (s/maybe/certainly/
[16:47] <SonikkuAmerica> mary == lion, someone fix that please
[16:48] <SonikkuAmerica> @comment 74591 mary5507 reincarnation of lion
[16:48] <SonikkuAmerica> I should apply to be an op in #u as well
[16:50] <phunyguy> whackatroll
[16:50]  * SonikkuAmerica gets the oversized banhammer out
[16:51] <k1l_> but dont mind, its just me that gets harrassed. so no need for any action. i am just an op....
[16:52]  * SonikkuAmerica flips tables
[16:54] <SonikkuAmerica> At least they make themselves easy to identify - (name)(x)(x)(0)(x-1)
[16:55] <SonikkuAmerica> although the rule for the last number changed to (x+2)
[17:02] <SonikkuAmerica> anomalical appearance? man.
[17:02] <SonikkuAmerica> ...
[17:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Should #u be +r for a while?
[17:28] <hpvs17e> zebra in #ubuntu
[17:31] <hpvs17e> no one around?  zebra in #ubuntu is swearing and creating a disturbance
[17:31] <ikonia> he's gone
[17:44] <SonikkuAmerica> What's with the surge of awful people all of a sudden?
[17:46] <k1l> well, its the same usual troll as often. an i guess he goes to other channels and makes adverts to troll in #u too
[19:16] <k1l> i set -r again for #u
[19:23] <elky> SonikkuAmerica: this is what happens when you needle trolls who have evasion enabling architecture at their disposal.
[19:24] <SonikkuAmerica> Wait, what? I thought you were talking to someone else. I only said 1 thing.
[19:24] <elky> s/you/one/
[19:25] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh
[19:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Like legit, I thought I was being accused. *shudder*
[19:26] <k1l> no, its always me who she is accusing.
[19:26] <SonikkuAmerica> pfft
[19:27] <k1l> but i think when ircc members say on logged channels, that one should not act against insulting trolls with bad attitude that shows how much they care about #ubuntu
[19:29] <elky> when you start baiting trolls in to misbehaving as you did, yes we do issue warnings to stop baiting or insulting trolls into misbehaving.
[19:30] <elky> when you continue to be recalcitrant about those warnings, and warnings to leave the situation alone, as you have done, we are forced to evaluate things further.
[19:40] <k1l> on that evaluation the ircc could look at how often ops get defended or protected against harassment and if its ok for ircc members to mark ops as paranoid in public logged channels.
[20:15] <hggdh> k1l: the issue is not the trolls, but that your behaviour is, unfortunately, aggressive. We can get the same results without being aggressive
[20:16] <hggdh> and the result is unnecessary stress to the channel, the community, the moderators
[20:18] <hggdh> k1l: I strongly suggest you take some time off moderating #ubuntu
[20:34] <k1l> hggdh: i will do so.
[20:46] <hggdh> also, it should be noted, ops being harassed is par for the game.If the is a persistent/knowledgeable enough troll, harassment will happen
[20:47] <elky> we don't condone the harassment, lion will not be welcomed back, but your behaviour is _also_ unacceptable
[20:47] <k1l> hggdh: i really hope the ircc discuss in the mean time about publicly marking ops as paranoid or if letting ops be harassed by abusive users is ok. because it seems that for the easy ones there are enough ops/ircc members, but when one knows its going to be stressfull there are only few left.
[20:48] <hggdh> k1l: it is *NOT* OK. It has never been OK. But it is something *any* moderator should expect to happen.
[20:49] <k1l> and lion4407 was only his now used nick/account. he is the same troll making the same game mid 2016 and before in 2015.
[20:49] <hggdh> but being harassed does not justify downgrading oneself to a similar level as the troll
[20:50] <hggdh> k1l: again: par for the game. Trolls will come back, it is in their freak nature
[20:50] <hggdh> and, again, we must not allow ourselves to respond at the same level
[20:54] <k1l> i know that there always will be trolls. and the same trolls will come back with new identities. but as i said: the ircc and the ops team has a lot of wrongs when it comes to protecting the own team and doing some stressfull work. for the easy ones there are always the same people around.
[20:56] <k1l> but its up to your internal discussions. i dont want to file a formal complaint. i am taking some time off and will leave the team channels now, too.
[21:11] <elky> ok we need to add some of those back
[21:28] <elky> actually, lets just leave it
[21:28] <elky> most of them have new accounts, or other ways in
[21:40] <SonikkuAmerica> I have a question to ask but I'd rather not ask in a logged channel, so I won't ask it at all.
[21:42] <hggdh> SonikkuAmerica: go to -ops-team
[21:42] <SonikkuAmerica> oh ok
[21:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Didn't even know that channel existed.
[21:44] <elky> you're welcome to idle there, you're part of the team
[21:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh OK, I will then
[21:45] <SonikkuAmerica> I feel empowered :P
[22:37] <bazhang> wb Mamarok
[22:37] <bazhang> kde turned twenty!
[22:38] <SonikkuAmerica> KDE is so old :)
[22:42] <valorie> we are
[22:43] <valorie> and it beats the alternative!
[22:43] <valorie> getting old, I mean
[22:52] <bazhang> just waiting for gtk to adopt qt
[22:53] <bazhang> then the synthesis will be complete; emacs/vim HURD on windows
[22:54] <bazhang> I just wish we could fit CLANG in there, as it's such a funny sound
[22:56] <bazhang> uncle chu from the old country would be so proud!