[02:54] <teledyn> is there a css file or some other way to change the scrollbar width for the Application Launcher?
[03:09] <teledyn> is there a pp archive for plasma 5.8?
[03:16] <valorie> teledyn: until the Qt version in Ubuntu is updated, we're unable to provide Plasma 5.8
[03:17] <valorie> we will do it as soon as possible
[05:44] <Unit193> j5jsearch kernel
[10:56] <fairc> is it possible to install plasma 5.8 in 16.10 release?
[10:57] <fairc> if so, how?
[10:58] <denza242> fairc: there is the option of compiling it all yourself
[10:58] <denza242> I think there are packages though
[11:04] <fairc> no interest in compiling. looking for an easy (good maintained) option
[11:08] <acheronuk> fairc: once we have it in the 17.04 Zesty development version we can likely backport to 16.10. Zesty has only just started for development though.
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:23] <andywww> hi, i'm having a problem with a large icon on emacs
[12:23] <andywww> https://www.dropbox.com/s/d8cfvzdjh4mn6ei/Screenshot_20161023_131459.png?dl=0
[12:23] <andywww> the open icon is far too big
[12:24] <andywww> is this something i can fix in a kde setting?
[12:55] <ForgeAus> how to downgrade packages?
[12:58] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, why?
[12:59] <ForgeAus> sudo breaks
[13:00] <BluesKaj> that doesn't tell us much
[13:01] <ForgeAus> sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[13:01] <ForgeAus> in xenial
[13:02] <ForgeAus> also apparently procps and strace...  (I think)
[13:03] <ForgeAus> took me since last time we chatted to go through upgrading the distro all the way to xenial (in many painful steps) ...
[13:03] <ForgeAus> it worked in wily
[13:04] <ForgeAus> don't know about procps and strace in wily though
[13:08] <BluesKaj> are you trying to compile ?
[13:09] <ForgeAus> no just upgrade and use I can't apt-get from console without going through kdesudo to load some commandline tool like krusader
[13:14] <BluesKaj> are you the only user?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> and did you edit the sudoers file in any way?
[13:29] <ForgeAus> yes I'm the only user and no I didn't edit the sudoers file in fact I can't get into it afaik
[13:29] <ForgeAus> I did try having a look, but it denied me access besides I probably wouldn't know what to do with it anyway
[13:32] <ForgeAus> actually I can view it now, must have been back when I didn't know at the time how to get to root (kdesudo works)
[13:32] <ForgeAus> maybe thats been replaced wtih the upgrade?
[13:32] <ForgeAus> although the error seems more about the tty side of things than that, it didn't even ask me for a password let alone attempt to run the command
[13:33] <ForgeAus> by the "that" I meant my sudoers file in /etc ... I can view it now)
[13:33] <BluesKaj> what does sudo su do ?
[13:33] <ForgeAus> no idea, I'll try it
[13:33] <ForgeAus> same error
[13:34] <ForgeAus> sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[13:34] <ForgeAus> I assume sudo anything will do that
[13:35] <BluesKaj> yup
[13:39] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus,  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21659637/how-to-fix-sudo-no-tty-present-and-no-askpass-program-specified-error
[13:43] <ForgeAus> thx
[13:44] <ForgeAus> I'll check it out
[13:46] <BluesKaj> np, hope it helps
[13:46] <paranoidabhi> is there any way to downgrade kubuntu from 16.10 to 16.04?
[13:48] <ForgeAus> doesn't seem to be helping
[13:53] <antifa> hey
[14:12] <ForgeAus> hmm I tried putting an askpass variable in env (by export SUDO_ASKPASS=/usr/bin/X11/ssh-askpass )
[14:13] <ForgeAus> now it is trying to set up kwallet for the password?... lol
[14:21] <ForgeAus> the -S switch works :)
[14:25] <ForgeAus> hmm that fixes sudo... but not ps -a
[14:26] <ForgeAus> even with /proc mounted it doesn't seem to run
[15:26] <teledyn> ForgeAus: does the groups command show you in the sudo group?
[15:36] <ForgeAus> groups coomand?
[15:37] <ForgeAus> when I type in groups it returns forgeaus adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev libvirtd
[15:50] <ForgeAus> anyway for now gotta go, catch you later.. have fun!
[16:15] <orestis> hello guys, I installed kubuntu-full in my ubuntu-gnome. I have the following problem: Discover does not show me the list with my repositories. What is the repository manager in Kubuntu?
[16:42] <Sircle> can anyone refer multiseatx official guide for kubuntu 16.04.1 LTS?
[17:43] <Ashwin153> Hello
[17:46] <Ashwin153> I'm facing a problem related to graphics on my Kubuntu 15.04 OS. Can someone help me out
[20:50] <Amplituhedron> Hello folks,  I'm running Kubuntu 16.04 and have a working internet connection through a 3g usb modem, How do I share my internet connection to my dlink-DIR 803 router through my ethernet port ?? (In effect how do I broadcast my laptop 3g connection using my router ?)
[20:58] <Crell> Hello, peoples. My Kubuntu 16.04 laptop (Thinkpad X220) seems to have suddenly stopped connecting to Wifi.  Ethernet is fine, Bluetooth is fine, just Wifi is out.  It simply isn't seeing networks that I've confirmed are present.  I did not upgrade anything before it started a few days ago.  iwconfig still reports it's there.  (wlp3s0 is the identifier.)  Any idea what I should be trying to debug this?
[20:59] <Crell> My Googling so far has mostly suggested restarting network-manager, which I have tried unsuccessfully.
[21:01] <Amplituhedron> If there is a hardware switch (probably a fn key) is it on?, or did you try in cli (i.e ping http://google.com or something ..) !
[21:03] <Amplituhedron> Crell:
[21:05] <Crell> Amplituhedron: There is a hardware switch, which is on. I confirmed that by connecting to bluetooth.  I am able to share internet from my phone via bluetooth.
[21:05] <Crell> ping on the CLI has an immediate DNS failure, because it has no network to try and lookup DNS from.
[21:07] <Amplituhedron> If you have access to the router settings (or a different network) did you try a different channel (5Ghz if supported or 2.4Ghz just not auto)
[21:08] <Amplituhedron> and does it work under windows? if you're dualbooting
[21:08] <Crell> Same behavior on 5 different networks in 3 different timezones.  (I've been traveling.) No dualboot.
[21:09] <Crell> It used to connect to 2 of those networks (the others were hotels I was only in for a day.)
[21:13] <Crell> google keeps leading me back to an issue with the network-manager needing to be restarted, which is a bug upstream in Gnome. But restarting network-manager fixes nothing in my case.
[21:14] <Amplituhedron> I'm kinda lost, but given that google gave a lot of hits regarding the X220, if possible can you try a live boot?
[21:14] <Amplituhedron> just to be sure  it's not hardware.
[21:15] <Crell> I didn't specify x220 in my googling.  I... may have a live boot around somewhere? I think just the 16.04 install usb key I made.
[21:15] <Crell> I could try making a 16.10 key and see how it behaves.  I should update eventually anyway.
[21:15] <Crell> Unless you recommend a different live boot for diagnostic purposes.
[21:16] <Amplituhedron> Preferably one that worked with the wireless card before (i.e 16.04).
[21:17] <Crell> OK, that's the one I should still have.  Stand by.
[21:24] <Crell> Amplituhedron: Confirmed, 16.04 live boot USB key can connect to the wifi network.  So it's definitely a software issue of some variety.
[21:25] <Crell> (Too bad, if it was hardware I could just expense a new laptop from my company... <g>)
[21:29] <Amplituhedron> lol, you could always break it yourself >: , but now I'm suspecting either Network-manager (the usual culprit) or given that you're sure you didn't update a kernel or nm probably config ( can you create a hotspot using nm or at lest see available networks ?)
[21:30] <Amplituhedron> Crell: oh and if you have power management of any kind suspend it and try !
[21:31] <Crell> hm. I'm not actually sure how to turn the laptop in to a hotspot.
[21:33] <Crell> Let me reboot to the hdd and see. Power settings shouldnt have changed recently...]
[21:33] <Amplituhedron> In the tray Icon right click & Configure Network Connections, after the window comes up click Add >Wifi (shared)
[21:35] <Amplituhedron> I'm not sure how power managment works , but it always messes with my things in unexpected ways (Amarok problems, networking ..) and everytime I turn it off I find it on again (no idea how?)
[21:35] <Crell> *shruggie emoticon*
[21:35] <Crell> Power management has been rock solid for me on this laptop for years, no issues.
[21:36] <Amplituhedron> Probably my old Hp is ...
[21:37] <Crell> Although for some odd reason, startup recently started taking nearly a minute instead of the 10-15 seconds it used to be.  No idea why.
[21:39] <Amplituhedron> Ohh I'm quite sure it has something to do with udev and/or systemd, it turned to >3mins for me, and after checking the boot graph it was systemd (and I had no desire to mess with it so I just waited for an update ... after a few weeks I found that changing my fstab entries fixed 1.5 mins of it!!)
[21:40] <Amplituhedron> That probably fixed the udev part as it was struggling with my NTFS partition (dunno why?)
[21:41] <Crell> Weird.
[21:41] <Crell> If only Chrome OS let you install arbitrary user-space apps, I'd seriously consider just swiching to that full time. But no, I need a real IDE and Git.
[21:43] <Crell> Amplituhedron: OK, I created a new Wifi (shared) entry in the connection editor. It's not showing up in the Networks dialog, though. (I don't know that it's supposed to.)
[21:46] <Amplituhedron> Honestly I had not even tried Chrome OS (don't intend to :) ) , well kind of minor but there is a checkbox on top of the network manager ui when clicking the tray button, there should one for wireless aired and airplane mode, is it checked (sorry I'm lost !)
[21:46] <Amplituhedron> Crell:
[21:46] <Crell> Tried that toggle already. It's unchecked.  Checking it and unchecking does nothing.
[21:48] <Crell> Er.  Wait a sec...
[21:48] <Amplituhedron> That's strange !! since if it's there and "checkable" ! it should mean that wireless is working !!
[21:49] <Crell> This is odd.
[21:49] <Crell> If it's unchecked now, no wifi shows up.
[21:50] <Crell> If it's checked, ONLY the access point connection I just created appears, but I can "connect" it.
[21:50] <Crell> But the other local network (the one I'm using on this chromebook to talk to you) still doesn't show either way.
[21:50] <Crell> I... what?
[21:51] <Crell> And I CAN see that laptop network from my phone.
[21:51] <Crell> So... it can definitely find the hardware. The hardware is working. The drivers are correct.
[21:51] <Crell> What gives, Kubuntu?
[21:52] <Amplituhedron> lol, now I'm really lost XD
[21:52] <Crell> Me too.
[21:52] <Amplituhedron> but it's no almost certainly network-manager
[21:52] <Amplituhedron> *now
[21:52] <Crell> I... guess I could throw a hail mary and update to 16.10 over wired and see what happens? :-)
[21:53] <Crell> Holy...
[21:53] <Crell> I just restarted network manager again on a lark, and now it sees 10 networks.
[21:53] <Amplituhedron> Ok, but do a google for problems of 16.10 with X220 and generally before you make the jump.. hhhhhhhahah network manager for the win!!!
[21:54] <Crell> I hate that thing. Every time I have issues with a Linux box in the last 2 years, it's nm.
[21:55] <Amplituhedron> Yep it gave me nightmares especially with my 3g usb Dongles ... well I'm glad this didn't require you recompiling NM :0
[21:55] <Crell> Amen.
[21:55] <Crell> Thanks for the hand-holding at least.
[21:55] <Amplituhedron> You're most welcome!
[21:56] <Amplituhedron> Ok now I have to find someone to help me with my own networking problem!
[21:57] <Amplituhedron> I'm running Kubuntu 16.04 and have a working internet connection through a 3g usb modem, How do I share my internet connection to my dlink-DIR 803 router through my ethernet port ?? (In effect how do I broadcast my laptop 3g connection using my router ?)
[22:10] <valorie> Amplituhedron: wouldn't you have to login to your router to do that?
[22:13] <Amplituhedron> yep I logged in, and set it to AP mode, & tried setting the wired connection to share to other computers in NM, tried disabling DHCP in the router!!
[22:13] <Amplituhedron> I have no conceptual picture of how it's supposed to work (no experience with networking!!)
[22:14] <valorie> I suggest #ubuntu for that, or maybe they can suggest a more suitable chan
[22:14] <valorie> it's not really a Kubuntu issue, and we're a smaller chan
[22:16] <Amplituhedron> hh, ok I'll try, the thing is their NM is a bit different than Kubuntu's, but thanks anyway !
[22:18] <valorie> I see your point
[23:19] <tsimonq2> Should the upgrade from Kubuntu Trusty to Xenial work fine?
[23:19] <tsimonq2> I'm doing it in a VM now.
[23:29] <valorie> tsimonq2: isn't that two upgrades?
[23:30] <valorie> I"m bad with old name:number mapping
[23:31] <tsimonq2> valorie: That's LTS to LTS.
[23:31] <tsimonq2> But it's KDE 4 to KDE 5.
[23:32] <valorie> oh
[23:32] <valorie> I think I did that one, back in the day
[23:32] <valorie> but then did a fresh install
[23:32] <valorie> or the computer itself died or so
[23:47] <mparillo> When I did the Plasma 4 to 5 upgrade, I remember having to sudo power off (the kicker leave options did not work) and I remember the shortcuts  in kicker favorites also did not work.