[00:03] <ivan_> que pedo raza!
[00:05] <LaoziSailor> where do I place screencaps? in http://imgur.com ??
[00:08] <`{^v^}> in the upper right corner is a green button that says new post
[00:09] <`{^v^}> thats left  >_<
[00:09]  * `{^v^} still has trouble with differentiating left from right
[00:11] <jwinterm> is it just me or is the ubuntu software center flaky af in 16.04?
[00:11] <jwinterm> like it will just show loading circle forever sometimes
[00:11] <jwinterm> or it will load applications but not show their pictures or names or descriptions
[00:12] <jwinterm> for like 5 minutes
[00:12] <jwinterm> then they come up
[00:12] <`{^v^}> use synaptic?
[00:13] <jwinterm> I can just use apt, but it's just weird
[00:13] <Caluser2000> LaoziSailor: it's quite easy http://imgur.com/upload
[00:13] <jwinterm> super, super slow, sometimes never loading
[00:13] <tomreyn> jwinterm: and apt-get update is quick?
[00:13] <jwinterm> yes
[00:13] <`{^v^}> in my experience it's always been like that jwinterm
[00:13] <`{^v^}> having an SSD helps
[00:14] <jwinterm> I've never experienced this level of flaky slowness/non-loading in previous versions
[00:14] <jwinterm> I have / mounted on ssd
[00:14] <jwinterm> home is on a spinny disk
[00:15] <tomreyn> i never use software center, so can't really comment on whether this is unusual / unexpected
[00:15] <tomreyn> 5 minutes definitely sounds wrong
[00:15] <jwinterm> was just checking what games and graphics apps are listed by default nowadays
[00:16] <Caluser2000> Synaptic might be a better option.
[00:17] <jwinterm> teeworlds and pingus still hanging in there
[00:17] <LaoziSailor> Caluser2000: thanks, I'll get an account :)
[00:18] <Caluser2000> account?
[00:19] <Caluser2000> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[00:23] <`{^v^}> LaoziSailor, you dont need an account for imagur, just click new post
[00:26] <ubuntu-mate> Hello. need help in rebuilding grub. I do:
[00:26] <ubuntu-mate> sudo mount / dev / sda7 / mnt
[00:26] <ubuntu-mate> sudo mount --bind / dev / mnt / dev
[00:26] <ubuntu-mate> sudo mount --bind / proc / mnt / proc
[00:26] <ubuntu-mate> sudo mount --bind / sys / mnt / sys
[00:26] <ubuntu-mate> sudo chroot /mnt
[00:26] <ubuntu-mate> grub-install /dev/sda
[00:27] <tomreyn> your spacing is wrong
[00:27] <tomreyn> not / dev / sda7 / mnt
[00:28] <tomreyn> but /dev/sda7 /mnt
[00:28] <ubuntu-mate> but after the update-grub is only windows
[00:28] <ubuntu-mate> yes. sorry
[00:28] <ubuntu-mate> there are no gaps
[00:29] <ubuntu-mate> what am I doing wrong?
[00:29] <transhuman_> could someone please do me a favor and execute the following command sudo ip addr  ---and tell me if it shows a primary and secondary eth0 address?
[00:29] <tomreyn> what makes you think you're doing something wrong?
[00:30] <ubuntu-mate> because it does not boot ubuntu
[00:31] <ubuntu-mate> and OS list contains only windows
[00:32] <tomreyn> the OS list the bios generates? or the one grub shows? how far do you get during the boot process?
[00:33] <tomreyn> transhuman_:  only one ipv4 per nic for me
[00:33] <jwinterm> transhuman_: no need to use sudo here
[00:33] <tomreyn> transhuman_: as expected, since i di not configure multiple
[00:33] <Bashing-om> transhuman_: Maybe not much help, My output : http://termbin.com/ruua - where eth1 is presently the active interface ( 14.04 upstart ) .
[00:33] <transhuman_> so let me clarify the command does not show a primary and secondary  ip addr ?
[00:34] <ubuntu-mate> It generates by grub
[00:34] <jwinterm> I see loopback, eth, and wifi
[00:34] <jwinterm> 1, 2, 3
[00:34] <jwinterm> using wifi
[00:35] <transhuman_> ok cause my server is showing a primary and secondary ip address even though a secondary isnt in any of the config files i find
[00:35] <transhuman_> every document i find says to look in /etc/sysctrl  which doesnt apply to ubuntu
[00:36] <jwinterm> I see ipv4 and ipv6, but no primary and secondary
[00:36] <transhuman_> i used the ip command to delete it but it comes back on reboot
[00:37] <transhuman_> bb later
[00:37] <tomreyn> whats the network it belongs to (if you dont want to disclose the unexpected ipv4 address)?
[01:32] <randall_> Hey guys remember me
[01:32] <randall_> After 5 years of Bans I am back!!!!
[01:33] <Caluser2000> No sorry.
[01:37] <`{^v^}> lol
[01:38] <bitcycle> plot twist, randall is banned again for being too enthusiastic.
[01:38] <Caluser2000> Was he famous or something?
[01:40] <bitcycle> Caluser2000: no idea.  just thought it was funny, albeit off-topic.
[02:20] <helpwithbb> Hi, I am using Ubuntu Gnome 16.10, which I dual-boot with Windows 10. After booting into windows today, I restarted and then went back into ubuntu.  I saw the ubuntu gnome symbol as usual, but after that it dropped to a command line called "busybox." It has done the same thing after multiple reboots. What is causing this problem and how can I fix i
[02:20] <helpwithbb> t?
[02:21] <helpwithbb> Is anyone online currently?
[02:23] <lordcirth_> helpsterTee, yes
[02:23] <allizom> she's gone
[02:23] <lordcirth_> oops
[02:43] <kLOs> Anyone can tell me how i can tell the source of available upgrade packages on the command line
[02:43] <kLOs> e.g. The following packages have been kept back:  linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic mysql-server-5.7
[02:43] <kLOs>   mysql-server-core-5.7
[02:44] <kLOs> i would like to know from which repository these are coming
[02:44] <kLOs> especially the mysql
[02:45] <lordcirth_> kLOs, apt show mysql-server-core-5.7
[02:46] <kLOs> great thanks lordcirth_ !
[03:09] <jkljkl> hello?
[03:09] <lordcirth_> jkljkl, hi
[03:16] <DJRWolf1> I just installed 16.04 with a A10-6800k system, I have two external HDD's plugged in, I can see the 3 TB drive but not the 5 TB drive
[03:17] <jkljkl> try unplugging it and plugging it back in.  it works for the internet
[03:17] <DJRWolf1> already did that
[03:18] <jkljkl> run dmesg
[03:22] <tmus> I'm intermittently seeing "Buffer I/O/ error on device nvme0n1p2, logical block xxxxx" in dmesg, followed up by system meltdown (no access to storage meaning only my running shells work). Anyone else seeing this? It's a Samsung NVMe storage device in a Skylake thinkpad
[03:26] <DJRWolf1> jkljkl http://pastebin.com/n8gMVrp6
[03:28] <lordcirth_> tmus, install smartmontools and check smartctl
[03:29] <Guest62549> I vaguely remember using mIRC back in college.
[03:29] <Guest62549> This is interesting.
[03:30] <Guest62549> What do we do here in IRC chat?
[03:30] <lordcirth_> Guest62549, well, #ubuntu channel in particular is the Ubuntu support channel.
[03:30] <Flannel> Guest62549: This is a technical support channel for Ubuntu.  If you want a social chatroom, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:30] <RonWhoCares> I am getting the error when trying to burn a DVD:  "SCSI error on write(),16) [4 09 01] Drive error. Tracking serve failure."  Any ideas
[03:30] <`{^v^}> the burner is dead
[03:31] <`{^v^}> time to get a new one
[03:31] <DJRWolf1> DVD burners are dirt cheep these days
[03:31] <Guest62549> Thanks for your recommendations. What about if I want to contribute to ubuntu dev?
[03:32] <Flannel> !contribute | Guest62549
[03:32] <Guest62549> Thanks so much! :)
[03:32] <Flannel> Guest62549: That page (the second one) has a lot of information on how to get into one of the variety of ways
[03:32] <Guest62549> !contribute
[03:33] <Flannel> Guest62549: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu  <-- that webpage
[03:36] <Guest62549> this is kinda fun - IRC... what other channels are good? (sorry I know this is offtopic from ubuntu help)
[03:36] <tmus> lordcirth_, anything to check in particular?
[03:37] <tmus> brand new thinkpad and works well after poweroff/poweron
[03:37] <Guestie> Anyone recommend any antivirus/malware software for Ubuntu Desktop TLS 16.04? Do I really need antivirus/malware for my machine?
[03:38] <Caluser2000> Guest62549: #oldx86hardware  #linux  #classiccmp  ##windows
[03:38] <LaoziSailor> and so my voyage continues..., I was at Ubuntu Studio 8 and wanted to install Wine..., it didn't work and the upgrade path was tortuous so I installed both Studio 16 LTS  and Ubuntu 16 LTS only to find out that my laptop would get stuck at 640x480.
[03:38] <LaoziSailor> Change the sails on my boat and go back to what google searches hinted at the best to be Ubuntu 10 LTS to support a version of Wine AND still have the HARD specifications of the different screen resolutions
[03:38] <LaoziSailor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23367736/
[03:39] <Guest62549> thanks #Caluser2000
[03:40] <RonWhoCares> I just mail ordered a DVD
[03:40] <RonWhoCares> I have one other question: Can Ubuntu act as an answering machine with outgoing audio only?
[03:40] <Caluser2000> yw Guest62549
[03:43] <LaoziSailor> So still no wine :( I just finished downloading "ubuntu-12.04.5-desktop-i386.iso" and will report back tomorrow after I try that, I need some REAL wine now to get some sleep LOL
[03:44] <Caluser2000> LaoziSailor: why such an old version?
[03:45] <`{^v^}> RonWhoCares,  yes
[03:45] <LaoziSailor> Caluser2000: the latest won't allow screen resolution to be set
[03:46] <siva_machina> LaoziSailor, hen what about 14.04/
[03:46] <RonWhoCares> `{^v^} what software?
[03:46] <siva_machina> ?
[03:47] <LaoziSailor> Caluser2000: https://askubuntu.com/questions/839343/copy-the-files-that-make-a-good-environment-to-a-nas AND https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2340665
[03:47] <xv3g4s> a
[03:47] <`{^v^}> siva_machina, LaoziSailor will experience that on 14.04 as well
 thank you
[03:49] <`{^v^}> LaoziSailor, you will need a custom static xorg.conf
[03:49] <_stump_junkman_> any ideas of a way that installing ubuntu-mate-deskop would disable a wireless usb mouse without it showing up again after plugging it back in?
[03:51] <_stump_junkman_> the usb receiver shows up under lsusb, but not getting why it's not working on the desktop
[03:51] <siva_machina> _stump_junkman_,  Is it bluetooth or does it require a dongle to be in your computer/
[03:51] <siva_machina> nevermind
[03:51] <siva_machina> you already answered
[03:52] <lofitapefolk> when dragging a ubuntu window to expand (ie this irc window) the grab-point is always on 1 pixel... it is super hard to pull a window bigger or smaller because I have to get my mouse pointer exactly on that 1px spot. Is there a fix for this? 1st world problems*
[03:54] <BarnabasDK> lofitapefolk, try another skin - depending on your desktop manager (I assume unity) I think this lies within
[03:55] <`{^v^}> can anybody help me and Laozi with setting up xorg.conf? (our screens native res isnt showing up in xrandr or arandr
[03:56] <lofitapefolk> BarnabasDK thanks for that info. I'll try something different.
[04:03] <siva_machina> `{^v^}, if no one answers...maybe try #xorg
[04:05] <LaoziSailor> Caluser2000: with 10 there are some really interesting "features" for screen real estate -> http://imgur.com/a/qg13H <- I know it's a bit confusing but the laptop is at "real" space  and the resolution on realVNC -> http://imgur.com/a/ly9mn
[04:07] <Caluser2000> LaoziSailor: nice
[04:08] <Caluser2000> I'm using an even older distro for day to day stuff.
[04:14] <LaoziSailor> Caluser2000: the actual laptop display was captured with my iPhone and only after did I realize why I wasn't seeing the whole screen :)
[04:15] <BarnabasDK> `{^v^} maybe your handle has something to do with your lack of answers - hard to auto complete
[04:16] <`{^v^}> its just 2 buttons  >_<
[04:16] <`{^v^}> and one is on top of the other
 pls output off : lspci | grep VGA && glxinfo | grep vendor && glxinfo | grep direct
[04:17] <`{^v^}> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23367856/ BarnabasDK
 I know oss drivers are preferable but have you tried the closed source ?
[04:21] <`{^v^}> in software updater -> additional drivers -> it says im using the proprietary driver  BarnabasDK
[04:21] <LaoziSailor> BarnabasDK: I jumped on the traincar as well -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23367860/
[04:22] <BarnabasDK> LaoziSailor, if you have the same hw as <`{^v^}> then probably same fix - otherwise you need to install mesa-utils
[04:23] <BarnabasDK> as the output states
[04:23] <`{^v^}> fix? what fix? im confused
 do you have same hw
[04:23] <`{^v^}> no
[04:24] <BarnabasDK> ok two different incidents then - you said to help you and LaoziSailor - you first then
[04:24] <BarnabasDK> but LaoziSailor still needs mesa-utils
[04:24] <`{^v^}> i have AMD Radeon Mobility HD4250 (and according to software updater im using the proprietary driver)
 have you tried the oss one then?
[04:25] <`{^v^}> yes
[04:25] <BarnabasDK> and you are sure the monitor has the native res you expect?
[04:26] <BarnabasDK> or - what is the name and make of the montior
[04:27] <`{^v^}> it happens on all of my external LCD screens. all of my screens have a native res of 1280x1024 and dont send EDID
[04:30] <Guy1524> hey guys, w/ intel graphics, how do I enable DRI3, and how do I make sure it is enabled once I enable it?
[04:30] <Guy1524> I heard vulkan applications only work w/ DRI3
[04:30] <Guy1524> so I guess ill try that out
[04:31] <BarnabasDK> x uses edid to find the correct modeset for your monitor - can you turn it on ? or is it not supported
[04:32] <`{^v^}> cant. cheap GEMstar GM-170b  <-- current LCD
[04:36] <BarnabasDK> so if you have a current xorg.conf, could you ubuntu pastebin that too
[04:37] <BarnabasDK> btw I think xorg.conf is no longer supported by ubuntu, someone correct me if I am wrong
[04:37] <BarnabasDK> i think it may be deleted upon boot today
[04:39] <Guy1524> nvm
[04:42] <`{^v^}> okay im not finding an xorg.conf file
[04:42] <BarnabasDK> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it exists
[04:42] <BarnabasDK> just note I think this will be nuked upon reboot
[04:42] <schone> hello
[04:43] <`{^v^}> BarnabasDK,  nope no xorg.conf
[04:43] <`{^v^}> so yeah...
[04:43] <BarnabasDK> as it should be
[04:43] <BarnabasDK> it is legacy for ubuntu
[04:43] <schone> might be a newbie question but on ubuntu 16.04 server…. why does adding dns-nameservers to my /etc/network/interfaces file doesnt change anything in resolv.conf? i get my dns-search domains but not nameservers… its stuck on 127.0.0.1....
[04:43] <BarnabasDK> or for X / Wayland
[04:44] <schone> does not havinga  gateway for my particular interface makes a diff?
[04:48] <BarnabasDK> I am afraid I do not have any hw with a ATI type gpu so I cannot validate anything I suggest here - but see to it you load the closed source driver per this https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary
[04:48] <BarnabasDK> and combine it with a monitor section in xorg.conf, that includes the modeset you want
[04:48] <BarnabasDK> You could then probably do a sudo pkill X, and force the ubuntu system to reload the xorg.conf you wrote
[04:49] <BarnabasDK> if it survives a real reboot I do not know
[04:49] <BarnabasDK> basically if anyone with an ATI gpu type is here please fill in, I use nvidia / intel
[04:50] <BarnabasDK> that does not change the fact that ubuntu has discontinued the xorg.conf way of doing xorg ..
[04:52] <BarnabasDK> for better and worse - good for new hw and bad for the old stuff
[05:01] <BarnabasDK> LaoziSailor, your hw seems to utilize a via vga adaptor, so you need to ensure you have the correct drivers installed and then recheck per my command line
[05:02] <Guestie> I had my computer freeze up on me when I was using my web browser. I have an expensive gaming computer, so I know it's not because I have crappy hardware. How can I read the system logs to see why it was freezing up on me?
[05:02] <Guestie> What things do I look for in the system log?
[05:02] <BarnabasDK> Guestie, overclocked?
[05:03] <Guestie> No overclocking.
[05:03] <BarnabasDK> Guestie, then try memtest86
[05:03] <BarnabasDK> first of all
[05:03] <Guestie> It's a custom build, so that's a layer of difficulty.
[05:03] <BarnabasDK> to ensure it is not a bad mem block
[05:04] <Guestie> BarnabasDK, how do I do that?
[05:04] <Guestie> I tried "memtest86" in terminal.
[05:04] <BarnabasDK> Guestie, on ubuntu it should be a boot option still if I recollect - correct me here if I am wrong
[05:05] <BarnabasDK> per grub
[05:05] <Guestie> how do I install the grub boot loader?
[05:05] <BarnabasDK> if you are running ubuntu you should already use it
[05:05] <BarnabasDK> have you tried booting your pc while keeping shift depressed
[05:05] <Guestie> BarnabasDK, aparently, it didn't isntall. I don't see it when I boot up.
[05:06] <Guestie> let me try that.
[05:06] <Guestie> Cya, need to restart.
[05:06] <BarnabasDK> yeah
[05:11] <Guestie> BarnabasDK, I tried both lshift and rshift, and neither started grub.
[05:11] <BarnabasDK> you need to keep them pressed through boot ?
[05:11] <Guestie> BarnabasDK, I did.
[05:13] <BarnabasDK> Guestie, will this help ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/668049/grub-menu-at-boot-time-holding-shift-not-working
[05:13] <BarnabasDK> and then a grub update of cause
[05:13] <BarnabasDK> then reboot
[05:14] <`{^v^}> hmm... I downloaded AMD's Catalyst 13.1 driver and installed it but still my screen res is stuck at 1024x768
[05:15] <Bashing-om> Guestie: EFI system ? It Is then the escape key (spammed) grub looks for .. and there is no memtest for EFI by default intalled for a EFI system .
[05:16] <BarnabasDK> Bashing-om, did no know that .. important info
[05:16] <BarnabasDK> have no EFI stuff
[05:17] <Bashing-om> BarnabasDK: hey .. is a constantly changing target is ubuntu . ever evolving .
[05:18] <Bashing-om> Guest1952: Then as BarnabasDK adised, holding a shift key as soon as the bios screen clears should invoke the grub boot menu .
[05:18] <jaami> hi, got myself slipped into a big trouble. help me with command to stop sync of date. i removed ntpdate but still it takes few secondsmfor ubuntu to set back the old date. used root
[05:19] <jaami> how to stop sync and set my own date on my ubuntu
[05:19] <LaoziSailor> BarnabasDK: so the apt-get for mesa gives me a "is only available from another source" and it is also doing that for apt-get update, I lost the pastebin after I posted it here ealier.
[05:19] <LaoziSailor> I tried https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/mesa-utils/
[05:19] <LaoziSailor> and it takes me to the download for Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[05:19] <LaoziSailor> I'm calling it a night before my wife totally stops talking to me :D
[05:19] <LaoziSailor> Thank for the help!
[05:20] <`{^v^}> night
[05:20] <BarnabasDK> old hw is a journey ..
[05:21] <jaami> tell me how to stop sync of date please
[05:21] <jaami> i am in big hurry
[05:21] <Guestie> BarnabasDK, now I'm just getting pissed off.
[05:21] <`{^v^}> jaami, right clck the clock -> properties -> date and time settings
[05:22] <jaami> that does not work my dear
[05:22] <jaami> that was first thing btw
[05:22] <Guestie> BarnabasDK, not at you, of course.
[05:23] <jaami> give me your best trick
[05:23] <BarnabasDK> Guestie, well hw oss systems have a way of doing that
[05:23] <jaami> hate that sync thung
[05:24] <BarnabasDK> on the other hand no closed source oss system have an online support body like this one?
[05:24] <jaami> hello excuse me
[05:24] <Bashing-om> jaami: Have you reset the hardware clock ; NTP guide: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239089 .
[05:24] <jaami> i have to go to,washroom, plz tell me how to stop,sync
[05:25] <jaami> oh, reset hardware clock
[05:25] <jaami> yes, bios battery is dead.
[05:25] <BarnabasDK> hardware clock in linux != software clock
[05:25] <BarnabasDK> as opposed to windows
[05:25] <jaami> and at boot time i did not set correct time
[05:25] <`{^v^}> jaami, be patient. i dont have an answer for you but if some one does, they will chime in ( like Bashing-om just did)
[05:26] <Electrom_> Hey all, trying to install ubuntu from fedora, during the install when creating my partitions it is not letting me remove some fedora "mappings"
[05:26] <BarnabasDK> sometimes coming up with a qualified answer just takes a while ..
[05:26] <Electrom_> How can I just drop them?
[05:27] <`{^v^}> jaami,  did you click the link?
[05:27] <Jordan_U> Guestie: You can either boot memtest86+ via CSM (BIOS), use the userland memtester, or use the proprietary memtest which supports UEFI.
[05:27] <jaami> BarnabasDK , thanks a lot for responding. really , isnt there anyway to set date time against the bios?
[05:27] <Bashing-om> Electrom_: Is not Fedora LVM ? may have to learn logical volume management .
[05:27] <`{^v^}> Electrom_, have you tried using gparted?
[05:28] <jaami> oh ok
[05:28] <Electrom_> `{^v^} Bashing-om Been awhile since I have used gparted. I think it is fedora LVM
[05:28] <Electrom_> I just want to wipe the disks
[05:28] <BarnabasDK> jaami, i think hwclock cmd can?
[05:28] <Electrom_> But the installer for ubuntu isn't allowing me to do so
[05:28] <BarnabasDK> as superuser though
[05:29] <Bashing-om> Electrom_: Out of my depth to deal with LVM . But I do not think GParted is the right tool in this situation .
[05:30] <BarnabasDK> whipe disk is best done with dd
[05:30] <BarnabasDK> but be carefull
[05:30] <Electrom_> So there is no way to just drop partitions in the installer?
[05:30] <Jordan_U> Electrom_: There is normally an option to wipe the disk and install. Can you provide a screenshot of the error message you're seeing?
[05:31] <BarnabasDK> so
[05:31] <Electrom_> Jordan_U: No error message, it just says the drives are unknown and will not let remove the fedora LVMs
[05:31] <BarnabasDK> sudo dd if=/dev/randrom of=/dev/<whatyouwanttonuke> bs=8196
[05:31] <BarnabasDK> will take a while
[05:32] <BarnabasDK> but will whipe the disk completely
[05:32] <BarnabasDK> take care to name the correct devices
[05:32] <BarnabasDK> no safety net here
[05:32] <LaoziSailor> g'nite ya'll fair winds !
[05:32] <Electrom_> "In use by LVM volume group fedora"
[05:42] <Guestie> I am using my phone. I'm now in the Grub loader, but I don't see memtest86 option.
[05:42] <Guestie> Do I use Ubuntu recovery or upstart mode?
[05:43] <Bashing-om> Guestie: What do you see in the sub menu "advanced " ?
[05:44] <Guestie> Can you PM me? I can't scroll on this thing!
[05:44] <BarnabasDK> and if started xmem86 will take quite a while to finish ..
[05:44] <BarnabasDK> just a hint
[05:46] <BarnabasDK> xfree86 is not a remedy to all things hw malfunction either, but it will give you more to go on
[06:28] <FireStriker> Hey guys need a little bit of help, which irc chat is the best to chill out in if I need help, ask questions, and just chat about stuff related to ubuntu like sofwate support and what not.
[06:29] <FireStriker> I am new to Linux btw
[06:30] <Electrom_> this one should work fine
[06:31] <FireStriker> Ok
[06:32] <Bashing-om> FireStriker: There is also the #ubuntu-offtopic channel .
[06:32] <FireStriker> I can't join it for some reason
[06:33] <ducasse> !register | FireStriker
[06:33] <FireStriker> I am wanting to do a duel boot with win 7 ( know how to do it did it early) win7 needs 6-10 hours to search for updates should I install after the updates are installed or can I install it now?
[06:34] <mwd> maybe microsoft can help you with windows questions..
[06:35] <guiverc> FireStriker: either way will work;  just ensure you backup. unlikely anything will happen; but far better safe than sorry. also ensure you shutdown win7, and don't hibernate (which leaves files open etc)
[06:35] <FireStriker> Microsoft has helped me with the why is it taking forever to update
[06:36] <FireStriker> Oh I left out some thing lol
[06:37] <FireStriker> Should I install lubuntu or wait for the updates to be done
[06:38] <nlion> hi
[06:39] <nlion> how can i install .snap packages offline?
[06:39] <guiverc> FireStriker: your choice.. either way gets the same result; so you decide.
[06:40] <nlion> ?no idea?
[06:41] <guiverc> nlion: me no, others who could answer are probably busy.  be patient.
[06:44] <nlion> ok
[06:44] <varazir> hi, i like to setup autoinstalltion of security patches each day, on Thursday all updates and reboot.
[06:45] <varazir> anyone that can point me to howto please
[06:45] <pablou> anyone know where to get help to networking problems?
[06:46] <guiverc> varazir: i'd put apt update|dist-upgrade on bash job (+x); and have cron run it.   man (manual pages) for info?
[06:46] <varazir> ok
[06:47] <FireStriker> Ok doing the duel boot now
[06:47] <SuperSeriousCat> varazir, security updates are installed daily automatic if you picked that option at install
[06:47] <guiverc> varazir: there are probably tons of other ways.. that's just my first thought.
[06:48] <varazir> SuperSeriousCat: ya i use to select that option. then i guess its the all other and reboot that i need to setup
[06:51] <varazir> guiverc: thanks ill look into that
[06:54] <FireStriker> Do I need to boot from the USB or can I boot the USB within windows
[06:56] <ducasse> FireStriker: you need to boot from it.
[06:56] <guiverc> FireStriker: if you want to install into a partition or bare-metal (so it runs directly) you need to boot from BIOS or directly. if you want to install into a file inside a VM then you can boot from within windows only.
[06:56] <FireStriker> Ok thought so
[06:57] <ram555> tes
[06:57] <FireStriker> Can I srink partitions inside of gparted on the live cd
[06:57] <guiverc> FireStriker: yes you can shrink partitions from gparted; reminder: ensure you backup.
[06:58] <FireStriker> Ok nothing is on the computer ATM
[06:58] <ram555> come on talk somethink
[06:59] <guiverc> FireStriker: yes from a LIVE cd too.  some smaller live cd's may not include gparted (I think most have it; but in case they don't all); at worst you just install then run it.  most ubuntu i think come with gparted installed.
[07:00] <FireStriker> I have a 148gb hard drive what's the best partition size for it?
[07:00] <FireStriker> Thinking 20gb
[07:02] <FireStriker> My live cd has gparted
[07:02] <guiverc> FireStriker: there is no best size; it'll depend upon your usage.  myself i'd have / & /home in different partitions; so you can re-install OS without loosing data; but if you install lots of apps; 20gb can be limiting (esp. if data there also)
[07:02] <FireStriker> Ik
[07:03] <FireStriker> Can I set up a data partition that is shared between both os's
[07:03] <xsmltx> Hi, anyone please have any clues for http://superuser.com/questions/1137973/gnome-terminal-doesnt-start-any-more-after-auto-login-to-x ? I appreciate...
[07:03] <guiverc> as you've noted:  gparted will allow you to resize parts; buts its a pain to do so (being safe requires backups always before.. taking time)...  you'll know what you want to do, and best be able to pick sizes.
[07:04] <guiverc> FireStriker: yes but you may have problems; do you mean w7 & ubuntu; or two gnu/linuxes; gnu/linux & bsd or what?
[07:04] <FireStriker> Win 7 and lubuntu
[07:05] <cyber-gum> tes
[07:05] <FireStriker> Might settle at 60gb that would be enough right
[07:06] <cyber-gum> i think that enough
[07:06] <guiverc> yes you can. it'll have to be NTFS unless you have an enterprise windows that can support linux partitions; yes its possible, but i'd not recommend it; instead opting for a lubuntu /home; and a NTFS partition where you store common files.  this can be a problem with limited disk space though. you decide.
[07:07] <guiverc> FireStriker: note: my thoughts are MY opinions. others may have different experiences.
[07:08] <FireStriker> True
[07:08] <`{^v^}> you could also use FAT32
[07:08] <`{^v^}> but FAT32 has many limitations
[07:08] <himanshub16> I wanted to have some discussion on Unity. Is this the right channel?
[07:08] <FireStriker> ik
[07:09] <ducasse> himanshub16: no, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:09] <cfhowlett> himanshub16, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic.  tech support questions here
[07:12] <himanshub16> Not tech support. I wanted to have discussion regarding Unity 8. Wanted to share some thoughts and know ubuntu developer's perspective on the same
[07:21] <yotka> Sorry for the repetition.. Is anybody around who could help me troubleshooting this wireless problem I have? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1566987/comments/12 It's been months now and it's driving me crazy..
[07:23] <`{^v^}> yotka, i saw that a lot with the wireless routers comcast provides its customers
[07:24] <guiverc> yotka: reading the launchpad link.
[07:25] <himanshub16> Hey, I wanted to know is Unity 8 stable enough for a switch?
[07:25] <Guest33098> hello
[07:25] <cfhowlett> himanshub16, "switch"?
[07:25] <himanshub16> sorry.. use it daily
[07:25] <cfhowlett> himanshub16, yes
[07:25] <Guest33098> hacker?
[07:26] <cfhowlett> Guest33098, no.  wrong channel.
[07:27] <himanshub16> I gave it a try, on a VM, felt really weird. Was it Unity's issue or due to VM
[07:27] <Guest33098> nothing
[07:27] <cfhowlett> himanshub16, could be your preferences and style
[07:28] <auronandace> himanshub16: performance would be better on bare metal rather than a VM
[07:28] <Guest33098> Are you playing a virtual machine?
[07:29] <Guest33098> ok ok
[07:30] <himanshub16> Will Ubuntu continue to support the current variant of Unity as long as 16.04 is supported or is planning to make transition to Unity 8 by the launch of next LTS.
[07:30] <FireStriker> Can't remember them what's the package for chrome and gparted
[07:30] <FireStriker> Also what software should I install
[07:30] <Guest33098> Where do you come from?
[07:30] <auronandace> FireStriker: chromium-browser is in the repos, chrome is not
[07:31] <FireStriker> Yep
[07:31] <himanshub16> auronandace: download google-chrome from google's website and install the deb file.
[07:31] <Rarrikins> himanshub16: 16.04 will probably stay the same. One of the non-LTS versions might upgrade.
[07:31] <auronandace> himanshub16: i know about that, i was informing FireStriker chrome is not in the repos
[07:32] <FireStriker> Chromium is the same as chrome right?
[07:32] <Rarrikins> FireStriker: No, it lacks the PDF plugin and Widevine. Maybe Flash as well.
[07:32] <auronandace> FireStriker: chrome is based on chromium, chrome just has extra proprietry bits from google
[07:32] <himanshub16> FireStriker: No, Chromium is the base project, and chrome is some additions to it, say them Google's proprietary components, and Flash.
[07:32] <FireStriker> So no flash
[07:33] <FireStriker> Is chrome better?
[07:33] <guiverc> yotka: sorry i can't help ...
[07:33] <himanshub16> Rarrikins: Are there customisations available for Unity 8? It gives feel like a mobile platform, not a desktop.
[07:33] <auronandace> FireStriker: depends on your definition of better, i like chromium because it is open source - to me at is better
[07:34] <Rarrikins> himanshub16: I don't use Unity, so I'm unsure.
[07:34] <guiverc> FireStriker: i prefer chromium myself.. there are some things that chrome is better with; but I trust chromium more.
[07:34] <himanshub16> Rarrikins: What do you use?
[07:34] <FireStriker> It feels nice
[07:34] <yotka> guiverc: Thanks anyway!
[07:34] <Rarrikins> FireStriker: Widevine is also missing, so you won't have Netflix without Chrome.
[07:34] <FireStriker> I would like to stick with chromium
[07:34] <Rarrikins> himanshub16: Xubuntu
[07:35] <FireStriker> Oh that's a hit lol, can you install them as plugins?
[07:36] <Guest33098> Liunx Kail how do you feel?
[07:36] <himanshub16> FireStriker: No. If you are not much concerned about "open-source essence", go with Google Chrome. Google sponsors chromium to convert it to chrome.
[07:36] <auronandace> Guest33098: Kali is not supported here
[07:36] <Rarrikins> FireStriker: I don't think so, but I'm not sure.
[07:38] <himanshub16> FireStriker: Chrome is superset of chromium. If you use Google Chrome, you support Chromium, upon which it is built. See the chrome://help, it acknowledges chromium project, even in Google Chrome.
[07:39] <FireStriker> It will do the trick
[07:39] <FireStriker> I do have win7 as a duel boot
[07:39] <auronandace> FireStriker: they fight a lot? or did you mean dual?
[07:39] <himanshub16> Unity 7 is based on GNOME, what will Unity 8 be based on?
[07:40] <FireStriker> Dual lol
[07:40] <guiverc> himanshub16: Unity uses GTK or the Gimp|Gnome toolkit... this is not the same as GNOME itself.
[07:41] <himanshub16> guiverc: Does Unity 8 uses GTK?
[07:43] <FireStriker> It's sudo get apt right
[07:43] <auronandace> FireStriker: sudo apt-get install packagename
[07:43] <guiverc> FireStriker:    "sudo apt-get [command]"  or "sudo apt [command]"  (apt has fewer options)
[07:44] <FireStriker> Thanks
[07:45] <FireStriker> What's the package name for gparted
[07:45] <FireStriker> And what should I install
[07:45] <auronandace> FireStriker: you just said it
[07:45] <guiverc> himanshub16: i don't know enough to answer;  originally yes.
[07:45] <FireStriker> Ok
[07:45] <auronandace> !info gparted | FireStriker
[07:47] <guiverc> FireStriker:   to install gparted "sudo apt install gparted"   (sudo apt install gparted would work too)
[07:47] <auronandace> FireStriker: synaptic is available in the repos if you prefer a graphical package manager that is much more efficient and verbose than the ubuntu software center
[07:48] <itay2_> Hello, I have a problem where I'm loading the ubuntu 16.04.1 main menu, and pressing F6 to set noeaveu driver, but when I press F6 nothing happens. what should I do?
[07:49] <Maimster> itay2_ Are you install on a system wth a nVidia card?
[07:49] <FireStriker> I am alright doing the commands want to learn the code
[07:49] <itay2_> Maimster : yes
[07:50] <Maimster> itay2_ Are you getting an error?
[07:51] <itay2_> Maimster: no, nothing happens at all when i press F6.
[07:51] <Maimster> itay2_ I've installed onto nVidia systems and the installer just went through. What kind of motherboard?
[07:52] <FireStriker> Ok where do I move if I want to talk about games
[07:52] <itay2_> Maimster: I think it's gigabyte ga-z68x-ud3-b3
[07:52] <cfhowlett> FireStriker, chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:52] <Maimster> itay2_ Are you trying to use Linux for games?
[07:53] <auronandace> itay2_: doesn't the install media use nouveaux by default?
[07:54] <Maimster> itay2_ I game on Linux also through Steam.
[07:54] <itay2_> Maimster: no but I need CUDA for deep learning
[07:54] <Maimster> itay2_ Mining?
[07:54] <`{^v^}> AI and neural nets?
[07:55] <itay2_> auronandace: yeah, I don't have the thing to write when I press F6 on the spot, but nacc told me to disable the nouveau driver because it's causing problems, or something like that. I need to press F6 and to write something to disable it. But when i press F6 in the main menu of choosing whether to try ubuntu or to install it, nothing happens at all.
[07:56] <itay2_> when i press "help" it says I can press F6 for "configuration for special computers", when I press F6 nothing happens.
[07:57] <FireStriker> Hey guys how do you change the time format?
[07:58] <auronandace> FireStriker: if you are in unity open the settings and there is a date and time section
[07:58] <FireStriker> Lubuntu no unity here (well I don't think there is)
[07:59] <FatSpitfire> hi guys :)
[07:59] <cfhowlett> FireStriker, rightclick on the lock?
[07:59] <cfhowlett> clock
[07:59] <FireStriker> I have
[08:00] <FireStriker> Clock format: %R Tooltip Format: %A%x
[08:01] <Guest11094> 0
[08:14] <FireStriker> How do I manage audio?
[08:14] <Rarrikins> FireStriker: There should be an indicator icon for that.
[08:15] <cfhowlett> FireStriker, IIRC lubuntu has a menu search app.  search it for audio or sound
[08:16] <FireStriker> I see the icon but I can't get into the sound settings
[08:16] <theyesman> right click
[08:17] <xsmltx> http://superuser.com/questions/1137973/gnome-terminal-doesnt-start-any-more-after-auto-login-to-x
[08:19] <itay2_> Hello, I have a problem where I'm loading the ubuntu 16.04.1 main menu, and pressing F6 to disable/set noeaveu driver, but when I press F6 nothing happens. what should I do?
[08:19] <guiverc> yotka: have you tried manual routing; instead of letting dhcp do everything?
[08:20] <FireStriker> Found it
[08:20] <guiverc> yotka: (realize my response is out of nowhere; time passed as I was doing other things)
[08:20] <EriC^^> itay2_: try fn + f6
[08:21] <yotka> guiverc: You mean static IPs?
[08:21] <guiverc> yeah guess so.  primarily I meant "route add default..." commands to route traffic...
[08:23] <guiverc> yotka: i also assume you've checked obvious stuff; ie. IP address not conflicting with another machine; or if in busy environment; MAC address not used by another device (someone trying to steal your internet & sniffed your mac; pretending to be you etc)
[08:28] <wdna> Hey ... I have python project that has dependencies that needs to be compiled with GCC-4.7 ... I installed this version on my Ubuntu 16.10, now I actually have 3 of them 4.7,5,6 ... but default symlinks still link to version 6 ... there's any official way to change them?
[08:28] <wdna> (thinking about eselect style tool...)
[08:29] <guiverc> yotka: when you have problems; can you ping (icmp echo) your router?   if yes; a quick dirty fix may be to overwrite /etc/resolv.conf with a version which contains "nameserver 8.8.8.8" (where 8.8.8.8 can be your dns etc)... just a DIRTY thought.
[08:32] <guiverc> yotka: (note: i hate wireless; avoid it when possible so not the best person to offer suggestions anyway) regardless...   you noted @ 06-05 17:46 that there are possible busy-bandwidth clashes; are you in flats or somwehere busy & lots of folks using wireless; or near microwave oven/fridges etc?
[08:33] <guiverc> yotka: my date/time is from your bugzilla bug report.
[08:37] <guiverc> yotka: would it be more helpful if I put my thoughts in launchpad bug report? rather than here?  note: i do NOT have a fix; my thoughts are only work-arounds; dirty ones at that...
[08:39] <theyesman> sometimes workarounds are perfect until an actual 'fix' can be found
[08:40] <guiverc> theyesman: :)
[08:40] <LondonAppDev> Hey, I just installed an application using the Ubuntu Software manager. Any ideas why it would pin to my launcher but not appear in the "Search This Computer" panel?
[08:41] <theyesman> LondonAppDev, sometimes logging out of unity and then log in again fixes this
[08:41] <theyesman> assuming you're using unity
[08:41] <LondonAppDev> theyesman: yes I am using Unity on Ubuntu 16.04
[08:42] <theyesman> LondonAppDev, try logging out
[08:44] <LondonAppDev> theyesman: Ok I will try that. Thank you.
[08:51] <itay2_> EriC^^: I don't have FN button, I'm using an external keyboard and without laptop
[08:52] <itay2_> EriC^^: It's a desktop computer
[08:52] <LondonAppDev> theyesman: unfortunately logging out/in didn't work :(
[08:54] <theyesman> LondonAppDev, what application is it?
[08:58] <LondonAppDev> theyesman: my bad, I didn't realize only some filters were set when searhcing...
[08:58] <LondonAppDev> theyesman: That's why they weren't coming up...
[08:58] <theyesman> LondonAppDev, no probs. glad you figured it out anyway
[08:58] <LondonAppDev> theyesman: thanks mate.
[08:59] <G3nka1> hey guys is it safe to upgrade to ubuntu 16.10 ?
[08:59] <G3nka1> does it have a lot of bugs ??
[08:59] <cfhowlett> G3nka1, no
[08:59] <cfhowlett> but why do you NEED 16.10?
[09:00] <LondonAppDev> G3nka1: So I literally switched from Windows to Ubuntu last week... I donwloaded it as a torrent, and didn't realize I had been using 16.10 instead of 16.04.
[09:00] <G3nka1> I dont know I just hit upgrade and it finished downloading and its unpacking now, but I am afraid if it'll fuck up my existing applications !? cfhowlett
[09:00] <LondonAppDev> G3nka1: This weekend I did a clean install of 16.04, and it is noticably more reliable.
[09:01] <G3nka1> LondonAppDev, oh damn, I use ubuntu form past 2-3 years
[09:01] <G3nka1> off course moved from windows
[09:01] <LondonAppDev> Nice
[09:01] <xorox90> whenever I set hostname to ubuntu.local, I can connect ubuntu.local in my windows desktop, what makes it possible? how can my desktop know ubuntu.local hostname?
[09:02] <G3nka1> cfhowlett, so its safe I presume ?
[09:02] <cfhowlett> G3nka1, yes
[09:02] <G3nka1> well if it really goes wrong I am removing ubuntu completely and installing arch
[09:03] <C2H5OH> hello all, is anybody NOT using Unity with Xenial?  I'm trying to make gnome-settings-damon work, but the mediakeys plugin does not seem to be functioning.  It used to work fine in 12.04.
[09:03] <LondonAppDev> G3nka1: The main issues I had with 16.10 were: When I restarted the machine, it was saying a "serious error" occured. Sometimes it would hang and I would need to hold the power button in to turn off... The second issue was whenever I locked and then unlocked the computer, the system tray icons would disappear (it would be a red circle with a line through it, like a file not found)... Other than that it seemed fine.
[09:04] <C2H5OH> (well, to be precise, most of the plugins are not working: power, mouse, etc; and yes, they are configured to be activated, checked with "gsettings list-recursively")
[09:04] <akik> xorox90: it's the zeroconf/mdns system which in ubuntu is handled by avahi
[09:04] <LondonAppDev> G3nka1: Another noticeable difference was that Chrome was really unstable on 16.10. If I was using Skype web on one tab it would lag badly... I don't have the same issue on 16.03
[09:05] <itay2_> Hello, I have a problem where I'm loading the ubuntu 16.04.1 main menu, and pressing F6 to disable/set noeaveu driver, but when I press F6 nothing happens. what should I do?
[09:05] <xorox90> Thx akik what is best practice for setting hostname, should it be my Internet domain name?
[09:05] <cfhowlett> itay2_, 1.  are you booting from the USB/CDrom or is this installed to HDD
[09:06] <itay2_> cfhowlett: USB
[09:06] <cfhowlett> itay2_, so when you say "booting to main menu" I assume you actually mean booting the USB?
[09:06] <itay2_> cfhowlett: yes
[09:07] <akik> xorox90: if you have a static ip, use that. otherwise look into /etc/hosts how the setup configured it. also /etc/hostname
[09:07] <cfhowlett> itay2_, and you have a wireless Keyboard?
[09:07] <itay2_> cfhowlett: no
[09:07] <OSryx> Hi, what does the channel #ubuntu-MOTU stands for please ?
[09:07] <cfhowlett> OSryx, Master of the Universe
[09:08] <xorox90> thx again akik! I have to go to read both : )
[09:08] <OSryx> @cfhowlett hahaha thank you
[09:11] <LondonAppDev> Does anyone use KeePass2 on Ubuntu with plugins? I am getting this issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/840577/using-plugins-with-keepass2
[09:11] <darwin__> hol
[09:12] <darwin__> hola
[09:12] <cfhowlett> !es | darwin__
[09:14] <darwin__> gracias
[09:15] <meldron> hey guys whats the difference between gnome and ubuntu-gnome-desktop packages?
[09:16] <cfhowlett> meldron, ubuntu-gnome-desktop are the desktop environment and ubuntu-gnome apps.  gnome is the DE only
[09:17] <meldron> is there a list what apps are included?
[09:17] <cfhowlett> meldron, apt-get install -s ubuntu-gnome-desktop        will list it all but not install
[09:20] <meldron> cfhowlett: imo is the package listing a little bit noisy, with all the libraries and stuff
[09:20] <meldron> cfhowlett: but I get what you mean, thanks a lot
[09:20] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[09:21] <amincd> Hi, I remember using a program called Dracula(?) a few years ago where I could enter text documents, and could easily search through them. Sound familiar?
[09:22] <amincd> I'm trying to find the program, or something like it, to install it
[09:23] <C2H5OH> ok, using upstart-settings-daemon instead of gnome-settings-daemon seems to work better
[09:23] <C2H5OH> is there a sound volume applet for the system tray (I'm not looking for indicator plugins, but systray applets)
[09:24] <ppf> C2H5OH: what DE are you using?
[09:24] <C2H5OH> none, I'm just using a window manager: i3 in this case
[09:24] <OSryx> @ppf Desktop Environment
[09:24] <ppf> OSryx: ?
[09:24] <ppf> C2H5OH: k
[09:25] <OSryx> sorry
[09:25] <OSryx> @ppf I tought you were saying what is DE
[09:26] <ppf> C2H5OH: i'm on awesome and i've been using volumeicon
[09:26] <ppf> !info volumenicon-alsa xenial
[09:26] <C2H5OH> what package is that?
[09:26] <latemus> hey
[09:26] <ppf> !info volumeicon-alsa xenial
[09:26] <ppf> !info volumeicon-alsa yakkety
[09:26] <latemus> !info kernel
[09:27] <C2H5OH> ppf: xenial
[09:27] <latemus> !info release
[09:27] <ppf> C2H5OH: either way, the package is in both
[09:27] <latemus> !info systemd
[09:27] <latemus> !info bloatware
[09:27] <latemus> !info spyware
[09:27] <latemus> !info cannonical
[09:27] <cfhowlett> latemus, do that in private: /msg ubottu bloatware
[09:27] <MonkeyDust> latemus  stop. use /msg ubottu instead
[09:28] <ppf> C2H5OH: it's not very impressive, it's a little icon that shows if you're muted and will tell you the volume as a tooltip
[09:28] <ppf> and it can open alsamixer
[09:28] <C2H5OH> ppf: mmm, I was looking to use PulseAudio,  I'm not very fond of it but headphone detection works pretty well
[09:28] <ppf> (if you're using alsa, obviously)
[09:29] <C2H5OH> ppf: by the way, are you running *-settings-daemon also?  To make media-keys work (and suspension, fwiw)
[09:29] <ppf> no
[09:29] <ppf> my keyboard has four media keys and i hard-config'ed them
[09:31] <C2H5OH> :-(
[09:32] <eagleeyes> Does Ubuntu market have an app compatible with osmand map data?
[09:32] <MonkeyDust> eagleeyes  depends on what osmand map is
[09:33] <C2H5OH> ppf: by the way, I just found pasystray that seems like a workable replacement in case you want to use PulseAudio
[09:33] <C2H5OH> ppf: seems to be related to pavucontrol
[09:33] <eagleeyes> monkeydust hello :)
[09:34] <eagleeyes> open street maps
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> eagleeyes  i read here, it's for ubuntu phone
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> !phone | eagleeyes
[09:34] <eagleeyes> I want to divide the map into quadrants and paste the key on my face in the mirror.
[09:35] <eagleeyes> monkeydust this isn't for a phone ubunu runs on my laptop
[09:36] <eagleeyes> is there anything you will have me do for you?
[09:37] <Flannel> eagleeyes: navit
[09:37] <kamisama> What can I do to improve battery in ubuntu besides installing tlp?
[09:37] <eagleeyes> flannel navit is compatible with osm data?
[09:38] <Flannel> eagleeyes: navit can use data from OpenStreetMap
[09:38] <eagleeyes> It is possible I can use Google map data I don't see how Google can hide it , by using the temp files.
[09:38] <eagleeyes> if Google map data is any better
[09:39] <Flannel> I have no idea.  Navit can get data from commercial GPS stuff too.  I have no idea if google is also a valid source.
[09:39] <eagleeyes> is Google data any better than osm?
[09:40] <cfhowlett> eagleeyes, nothing to do with ubuntu. suggest you find a mapping or googlemaps or openmap channel
[09:40] <cfhowlett> openstreetmaps
[09:40] <eagleeyes> Ubuntu runs surprisingly slow on a 2.5ghz penryn
[09:41] <MonkeyDust> eagleeyes  is that a mac?
[09:42] <eagleeyes> the purpose of doing this on Ubuntu is for the higher CPU power but the GUI isn't any more responsive on a 2.5 GHz CPU than the GUI on my phone
[09:42] <eagleeyes> does it need be plugged into a 'cloud'
[09:43] <eagleeyes> some of the cloud tool app suggestions suggest it
[09:44] <eagleeyes> is trusty a cloud node kernel?
[09:44] <cfhowlett> cloud or not cloud will not effect GPU speed
[09:45] <FireStriker> Hey how do you set up dual monitors?
[09:49] <stevlar> FireStriker, just plug them
[09:57] <itay2_> Hello, I have a problem where I'm loading the ubuntu 16.04.1 main menu, and pressing F6 to disable/set noeaveu driver, but when I press F6 nothing happens. what should I do?
[09:58] <kernello> hello everyone, is there a different key combination for visual keyboards that works the same way as 'AltGr+key'?
[09:58] <kernello> because there is no AltGr key
[09:58] <kernello> on visual keyboards
[09:58] <kernello> visual=virtual
[09:58] <eagleeyes> anybody able to create a Medusa plugin?
[10:00] <`{^v^}> kernello, use onboard it has altgr
[10:01] <`{^v^}> kernello,  in onboard click the button that looks like a mouse pointer
[10:03] <kernello> `{^v^} I dont know what onboard is, but I have nowhere a button like a mouse pointer
[10:03] <`{^v^}> kernello, onboard is a virtual onscreen keyboard
[10:03] <kernello> by the way, your nick rocks :)
[10:04] <kernello> yes, that's what I have. but I dont see it
[10:06] <`{^v^}> kernello, http://i.imgur.com/Yu4mDOq.png  <-- thats what mine looks like
[10:09] <xorox90> Is it possible to upgrade non-lts to lts?
[10:09] <`{^v^}> yes
[10:10] <`{^v^}> if your distro is too far out of date it will take more than 1 upgrade
[10:10] <MonkeyDust> xorox90  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[10:11] <kernello> `{^v^} yours is way more advanced than mine here, but I found out that the problem was not related to the keyboard, but lying somewhere else, and just fixed it..thank you very much, all the same :)
[10:11] <xorox90> MonkeyDust I'm planning to use yakety yak(16.10) and if possible, I will update 17.04
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> xorox90  ok, but what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[10:12] <kernello> ciao everyone, have a good sunday :)
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> xorox90  in a terminal
[10:14] <xorox90> I don't know I didn't install ubuntu 16.10 yet and I'm planning to install 16.10 if upgrade from 16.10 -> 17.04 possible
[10:14] <jatt> it will upgrade
[10:14] <`{^v^}> that it will
[10:14]  * MrCodeDev hi :)
[10:14] <`{^v^}> hi
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> xorox90  17.04 isnt in alpha yet, that's a bit early
[10:15] <Gourlay> I have a computer set up to a TV-screen and the date changes from time to time and sometimes my wifi isn't recognized. What does this depend upon? If I restart I can get everything right, but do not want to restart.
[10:15] <`{^v^}> but it will be and when it is it will upgrade just fine
[10:16] <ppf> C2H5OH: nice, thanks for the hint
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-17-04-to-be-dubbed-zesty-zapus-will-launch-on-april-2017-509371.shtml
[10:19] <`{^v^}> yup as per the numbering scheme 16.10 came out on 2016 on the 10th month
[10:19] <xorox90> I mean.. when after 17.04 released , can I upgrade from 16.10 to 17.04
[10:20] <`{^v^}> yes you can
[10:20] <eagleeyes> monkeydust you don't have to upgrade do you?
[10:21] <xorox90> I'm not asking about now but asking about future, anyway thanks `{^v^}  and MonkeyDust
[10:21] <eagleeyes> I care believe it or not.
[10:22] <PCdude> when I type "lxc list" it goes to the next line but stays there. no change or error. How can I see more of what the command is trying to do?
[10:25] <guardianL> :-(
[10:51] <Guest5701> hola
[10:51] <tomreyn> hi Guest5701
[10:54] <FireStriker> Hey guys how do i see what version I have?
[10:55] <tomreyn> lsb_release -d
[10:55] <yotka> guiver-c: Sorry, I was afk. I'll respond to your questions in the issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1566987
[10:55] <yotka> guiver-c: Thank you!
[10:56] <cfhowlett> FireStriker,terminal: lsb_release -a
[10:56] <FireStriker> Thanks I am trying to install Skype
[10:57] <charlatanus> KK
[10:58] <FireStriker> I have 16.10 I download 12.04 right
[10:58] <cfhowlett> that makes no sense
[10:58] <FireStriker> ik Go to Skype and have a look
[10:58] <cfhowlett> skype is in the repos.
[10:58] <tomreyn> FireStriker: skype is available from the canonical "partner" repository.
[10:58] <cfhowlett> no need to to go skype
[10:59] <FireStriker> Ok how do I do that
[10:59] <FireStriker> What's the package?
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> !skype
[11:00] <no> !Ekiga
[11:03] <no> yo
[11:05] <latemus> hai gais
[11:06] <latemus> how do i upgrade coreutils
[11:06] <latemus> on ubuntu desktop
[11:06] <kang0> Hello
[11:06] <latemus> hi kang0
[11:06] <kang0> Don't upgrade
[11:06] <ppf> latemus: apt full-upgrade
[11:06] <kang0> You ll soon expire
[11:06] <latemus> ppf i get an error whin i run that command
[11:06] <ppf> latemus: paste please
[11:06] <latemus> ppf: ok
[11:06] <latemus> sec
[11:07] <ppf> kang0: what are you on about?
[11:07] <kang0> Ppf just trolling
[11:07] <FireStriker> I am having some problems what do I type
[11:08] <tomreyn> FireStriker: read what you just wrote, and now think about how anyone could help you based on this statement?
[11:08] <latemus> okay ppf http://pastebin.com/raw/hM1MYL5K
[11:08] <FireStriker> True
[11:09] <ppf> latemus: gg
[11:09] <latemus> lol
[11:09] <FireStriker> I am trying to install Skype
[11:09] <latemus> whats gg
[11:09] <latemus> thats the error
[11:09] <latemus> how do i resolve? pls advise
[11:09] <tomreyn> FireStriker: so try to explain better: what have you tried to do, how did you expect it to work, how do you know it did not work the way you expected?
[11:10] <latemus> su -c 'apt-get update all'
[11:10] <latemus> gives the error
[11:11] <FireStriker> Malformed entry 53 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list (Component)
[11:11] <FireStriker> The list of sources could not be read
[11:11] <latemus> im sorry i shitposted
[11:11] <latemus> forgive me
[11:11] <latemus> it was wrong im sorry
[11:12] <latemus> dont view the link it was a troll
[11:12] <latemus> but its ok im sorry
[11:12] <latemus> i wont do it again okay cannonicals?
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> latemus  don't abuse the enter key, it has rights too
[11:12] <FireStriker> !skype
[11:12] <latemus> MonkeyDust: you're not wrong
[11:13] <FireStriker> I can't seem to add the repo
[11:13] <tomreyn> FireStriker: please post /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin
[11:13] <FireStriker> Ok
[11:13] <tomreyn> !pastebin | FireStriker
[11:15] <FireStriker> Ok done now what?
[11:16] <eagleeyes> shakalaka have you visions of Lockheed martin?
[11:17] <eagleeyes> him locked himself in
[11:17] <eagleeyes> by programming adonikam
[11:17] <eagleeyes> Him
[11:17] <FireStriker> Help
[11:18] <eagleeyes> fire striker what do you need?
[11:18] <FireStriker> Hey eagle how are you
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> eagleeyes  are you a bot?
[11:18] <eagleeyes> to test your vision shakalaka how did he pass?
[11:18] <eagleeyes> no
[11:18] <FireStriker> I am trying to install Skype and I am new, I am being push around atm.
[11:18] <eagleeyes> no monkeydust
[11:19] <eagleeyes> firestryker ask Skype they like to put Skype on ubuntu
[11:20] <eagleeyes> shakalaka I had this recurring vision and feeling
[11:20] <FireStriker> How do you check repos?
[11:20] <tomreyn> FireStriker: we're waiting for you to post your source.list to a pastebin and provide us with the url
[11:20] <FireStriker> Ok
[11:20] <FireStriker> !pastebin
[11:20] <eagleeyes> how does Him handle the snow?
[11:22] <Guest41526> how do you open up Python?
[11:22] <tomreyn> eagleeyes: please limit the chat in here to ubuntu support. other chat related to ubuntu can go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[11:22] <Guest41526> it says its installed but i dont know how to open it
[11:22] <eagleeyes> if the weapons really depend on the darpanet
[11:22] <eagleeyes> this vision can be a reality
[11:22] <tomreyn> eagleeyes: stop
[11:23] <tomreyn> Guest41526: what do you mean by "open up python"? are you saying you want to run python itself, or a python script?
[11:23] <eagleeyes> guest41526 I write a code and run it using py code.py
[11:24] <FireStriker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23369037/plain/
[11:25] <FireStriker> Here you go
[11:26] <FireStriker> How do I check repos
[11:26] <FireStriker> tomreyn http://paste.ubuntu.com/23369037/plain/
[11:27] <tomreyn> FireStriker: what you just did was to post the error message you received on the pastebin. what i suggested you'd do is to post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin.
[11:29] <Snowmanx11> Is there any way to automatically mount my windows shared drive now?
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> Snowmanx11  explore gigolo, it's the name of the tool
[11:29] <Snowmanx11> OK, thanks
[11:30] <FireStriker> I am new to Linux
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> FireStriker  as windows and mac are the mainstream, we all were
[11:31] <FireStriker> Can you just tell me how to get it to tell me how to get the console to show the repos
[11:33] <EriC^^> FireStriker: grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:33] <EriC^^> it'll give you a link back, paste it here
[11:36] <FireStriker> What's the line?
[11:36] <EriC^^> what line?
[11:36] <EriC^^> the whole sentence above is the command
[11:37] <EriC^^> does it give multiple pastes?
[11:37] <EriC^^> nope
[11:38] <FireStriker> Yea ik I am asking about the line after nc
[11:38] <EriC^^> you have to specific :P
[11:38] <EriC^^> anyways that's a site that uses nc to put your paste and return a link
[11:38] <FireStriker> Nc before tempbin
[11:39] <FireStriker> Is it a I ?
[11:39] <EriC^^> ah
[11:39] <EriC^^> it's a shift + \
[11:39] <EriC^^> it's a pipe
[11:39] <FireStriker> Ok
[11:41] <FireStriker> No such file or directory
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> FireStriker  simply copy the line and paste it in a terminal
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> FireStriker  then hit enter
[11:42] <FireStriker> I do it does a wierd v thing
[11:42] <EriC^^> try shift+ctrl+v
[11:43] <FireStriker> Just a moment need to move to the computer I am on my phone
[11:44] <FireStriker> ok i am back whats the command
[11:45] <EriC^^> FireStriker: grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:45] <EriC^^> what's your initial problem anyways?
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> FireStriker  that doesnt include your name
[11:46] <FireStriker> havign a problem trying ot add a repo to download skype
[11:46] <FireStriker> no such file or directory still
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> FireStriker  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[11:46] <EriC^^> what have you tried so far?
[11:47] <FireStriker> i have tryed to add it with nothing poping up to say i have added it
[11:47] <FireStriker> and it error when i try to download and install skype
[11:47] <FireStriker> becuase it cant find the repo i
[11:47] <FireStriker> i think
[11:48] <EriC^^> did you follow the steps here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[11:48] <FireStriker> yep
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> FireStriker  in the system settings > sources
[11:48] <FireStriker> system settings
[11:49] <FireStriker> where do i find that lol
[11:49] <FireStriker> also lubuntu
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> FireStriker  first play around a bit, find out what's where
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> make yourself familiar with the new interface
[11:53] <FireStriker> found system info
[11:54] <csst0111> last night I did an apt-get  update followed by an upgrade. this morning I opened my pc but : a) cant move mouse and b) resolution is like 400x300 and c) i dont think its connected to the net
[11:54] <FireStriker> but i cant a system settings
[11:54] <AngelXenial> sorry you can restore IMEI  in bq aquaris 4.5 ubuntu ?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> !phone | AngelXenial
[11:55] <AngelXenial> yes MonkeyDust
[11:59] <csst0111> from grub menu > ubuntu advanced options > choose previously version (3.13.0.96  I think )  and now its ok. Should i remove the one with the problem ? I? think its 3.13.0.100 how can I remove it ?
[12:01] <EriC^^> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[12:02] <EriC^^> csst0111: type grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:02] <EriC^^> csst0111: the easy way would be to purge it, and not upgrade the linux-image-generic metapackage until a new kernel is released
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:03] <FatSpitfire> hey dudes , anyone from the ubuntu team here ?
[12:03] <EriC^^> you can also set grub to always boot it and remove that later when a newer kernel comes out
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> FatSpitfire  simply ask your question
[12:04] <FatSpitfire> I want to contribute . Wait that`s not a real question :D
[12:04] <FatSpitfire> how to become a part of the ubuntu team than >
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> !contribute > FatSpitfire
[12:04] <FatSpitfire> ?
[12:04] <jatt> sure. shuttleworth is a regular
[12:05] <csst0111> thnx EriC^^
[12:07] <EriC^^> csst0111: no problem
[12:21] <codfection> which terminal emulator should I use if gnome-terminal is buggy for me?
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> !find terminal | codfection
[12:23] <codfection> MonkeyDust: I have installed termite but I cant open right click menu
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> codfection  find a different one in the software center
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> codfection  find out which terminal suits you
[12:24] <codfection> k
[12:25] <jatt> codfection: which gnome-terminal bug?
[12:27] <strk> Setting up libvirt-bin (1.3.1-1ubuntu10.5) ...
[12:27] <strk> Job for libvirt-bin.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status libvirt-bin.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
[12:27] <ram545> ano tutuya ?
[12:27] <strk> should I report those kind of errors to package maitainer ?
[12:28] <strk> ( Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com> )
[12:30] <ram545> quit
[12:30] <Sleepmode> rok
[12:33] <bigman> I'm having trouble setting up external hardrive for storage, i can chmod 777 the mounted directory in /media, but whenever i disconnect the hardrive, and replug it in, i cant save any files, I also tried editing the fstab file with the UUID for the drive, but then the drive completly fails to mount if i connect it, any one to help with this?
[12:36] <Sleepmode> what email-program do you use for ubuntu?
[12:36] <cfhowlett> thunderbird works well Sleepmode
[12:36] <Sleepmode> thanks
[12:36] <PanosAsproulis[m> I use Evolution on ubuntu GNOME
[12:38] <Simooon> Sleepmode, there has been a lot of hype about N1, havent tried it, but it looks nice from the screenshots I've seen
[12:38] <Simooon> Sleepmode, I don't think it is in the repositories though.
[12:39] <Sleepmode> ok thx i will take a look :)
[12:39] <PanosAsproulis[m> N1 requires you to use their own server for collecting your e-mail.
[12:40] <PanosAsproulis[m> Also, it is still quite primitive.
[12:40] <Simooon> PanosAsproulis[m, Oh, that seems like an annoying "feature"
[12:41] <PanosAsproulis[m> You can install and use your own server but then you have more complications and work
[12:41] <ppf> Sleepmode: claws-mail
[12:41] <Simooon> PanosAsproulis[m, So you can't just connect it to a gmail or whatever account?
[12:42] <ppf> thunderbird is horribly slow and a dead project
[12:42] <Hexadesu> Geary
[12:42] <ppf> and i've had it delete all my emails
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> i use it too
[12:42] <PanosAsproulis[m> claws-mail is good but the problem with all other e-mail clients except Thunderbird and Evolution is the fact that they do not have calendar support
[12:42] <ppf> claws mail has a calendar plugin
[12:42] <PanosAsproulis[m> Does it?
[12:43] <ppf> yes
[12:43] <PanosAsproulis[m> I'll have a look at that.
[12:43] <Simooon> Did they entirely discontinue development on thunderbird?
[12:43] <ppf> Simooon: yes
[12:43] <Simooon> but why?
[12:43] <ppf> mozilla still provides security updates, but no new features
[12:44] <ppf> shrinking user base. everyone uses gmail and outlook.com these days
[12:45] <Simooon> talking about communnications applications, what IRC clients do you use, I used to use plain XChat, but now it has been replaced by XChat-gnome in the repos, and that version is confusing and weird, so I'm looking to change.
[12:45] <cfhowlett> Simooon, bad idea
[12:45] <cfhowlett> xchat is well and truly dead.  use hexchat instead
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> irssi <3
[12:46] <Hexadesu> weechat
[12:48] <Simooon> Will look into those, thanks. Tried haxchat before, perhaps I'll give it an other go.
[12:49] <Simooon> oh the irssi one is the cli one, tried that one before, cool, but I think I'l go for one that is not a CLI based
[12:52] <cyber-arc> sss
[12:52] <mikubuntu> omg. i've been afraid to do updates on this laptop because about 2 mos or so ago i did updates on my other one and it failed after the updates (black screen of death). so this has been getting buggier and buggier until this morning was getting fail on boot something like 'disk tmp is not present or ready' and neither chrome, maxthon, nor firefox would even launch. opera launched, and i'm on it now.
[12:53] <cyber-arc> l
[12:53] <cfhowlett> mikubuntu, clean install 16.04
[12:53] <cfhowlett> if updates are failing, this will refresh your system
[12:54] <mikubuntu> cfhowlett: i wonder if i can even get a disk copied. but i can try. why not 16.10?
[12:54] <cfhowlett> mikubuntu, LTS
[12:55] <XenomorphCmputin> i wait for zoophilic zebra 17.04
[12:56] <cfhowlett> XenomorphCmputin, don't spread disinformation please.  zesty zarus is the next release
[12:56] <mikubuntu> cfhowlett: i haven't tried to do updates because i was afraid the whole thing would crash, naturally i don't have any of my files backed up. i'm a candidate in an election, and i really need to make sure i have access to my files.
[12:56] <XenomorphCmputin> cfhowlett, thank you forgot the name of the successor
[12:56] <mikubuntu> well, guess i should back up everything i can before i mess with the system.
[12:56] <cfhowlett> mikubuntu, immediately back up your files then
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  backup is alwys a good idea
[12:56] <mikubuntu> cfhowlett: yup.
[12:57] <mikubuntu> i think someone mentioned that somewhere along the way .. lol.
[12:57] <XenomorphCmputin> whats the name of upcoming releases? maybe trees instead of animals?
[12:57] <cfhowlett> !zesty | XenomorphCmputin
[12:57] <Simooon> wooohoo, I'm back, now on hexchat, seems a lot more comfortable than that XChat-gnome thing :-)
[12:58] <jatt> xchat blows
[12:58] <Simooon> damn
[12:58] <Simooon> that was my favorite client
[12:58] <jatt> 😸
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> coming of age, Simooon
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> (joke)
[12:59] <Simooon> hehe
[12:59] <XenomorphCmputin> jatt, use telnet
[13:00] <FatSpitfire> and what to do if my county doesn`t have a LoCo team ?
[13:00] <XenomorphCmputin> i used a telnet gateway to irc over packet radio back in the 90's
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> FatSpitfire  that's for #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:00] <FatSpitfire> ok :) thanks
[13:01] <xXEoflaOEXx> hi
[13:01] <mikubuntu> cfhowlett: what's the commandline if you don't mind to determine what version i have installed?
[13:02] <abdullah> Aziz ne yaptınız kardeşim
[13:02] <jk^> excuse me, how to cancel an entry on http://paste.ubuntu.com/ I enter a text much time ago, but it's still there, i don't want that... how to cancel that? http://paste.ubuntu.com/ don't give possibility to timer or countdown text pasted :| (excuse for my english)
[13:03] <mikubuntu> can i store my backup and a bootable .iso on the same usb?
[13:04] <zackychan> Hi everybody , I ran apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-utopic to install latest kernel , but how can I make them be effective ?
[13:05] <zackychan> should I rebbot?
[13:06] <xXEoflaOEXx> I just installed xscreensaver 5.36 and its extras using hda-me's PPA, When I go to it it does not give me new screensavers like CubeStack
[13:08] <jatt> zackychan: yes you need to restart
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  yes, if you have more than one partitoin on the usb stick
[13:10] <zackychan> thank you jatt
[13:11] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: ok i wonder if i'm capable of setting that up ... lol
[13:12] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: figured out i'm running 14.04.03 lubuntu right now
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  gparted does the trick
[13:13] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: but i'm not sure of the configuration to set up? just two fat32 partitions?
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  ext4 for ubuntu, the other doesnt matter, i guess
[13:15] <xXEoflaOEXx> I just installed xscreensaver 5.36 and its extras using hda-me's PPA, When I go to it it does not give me new screensavers like CubeStack
[13:16] <FatSpitfire> mikubuntu , what you need two partitions in one USB anyways ?
[13:16] <zackychan> jatt should I run update-grub before rebooting ?
[13:16] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: how do i know if i should install 32b or 64b? i seem to remember having some kind of pae related problem on original install of this thing
[13:16] <FatSpitfire> why*
[13:16] <mikubuntu> FatSpitfire: to store my backup, and a bootable image for install
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  sudo dmidecode --4
[13:17] <FatSpitfire> mikubuntu make them both ext4 than
[13:18] <nuno_nunes> FatSpitfire, two partions on pen drive usb in fat32 is detected in windows is a not detected :)
[13:18] <nuno_nunes> detected in linux
[13:18] <nuno_nunes> :d
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  sudo dmidecode --type 4
[13:18] <FatSpitfire> use Puppy`s Grub4Dos - I use it all the time - better than Grub
[13:19] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: unrecognized option '--4'
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  that was a typo, it's --type 4
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  what's the very last line
[13:21] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: " unrecognized option '--4'
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  that was a typo, it's --type 4
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  sudo dmidecode --type 4
[13:21] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: ok lemme try
[13:23] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: last line '64 bit capable'
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  \o/
[13:23] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: should i pastebin all the other output?
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  no
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: how do i know if i should install 32b or 64b?
[13:24] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: k lemme see if i can fine lub 16.04 64bit image
[13:25] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: ok, downloading lub 64bit 16.04.01
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  great, good luck
[13:33] <iambatman> hi guys, I sometimes need to print my code on a windows machine by manually copying the files from a linux machine through a USB
[13:33] <XenomorphCmputin> i started with Dapper Drake
[13:33] <VN7>  anyone here who can guide me on converting pdf to odt?
[13:33] <XenomorphCmputin> before ubuntu was quite unusable
[13:33] <iambatman> I see that when I open the files using notepad the lines are all messed up due to the way linux line endings work I think
[13:33] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: trust me, i'll let you know .. lol
[13:34] <iambatman> how can I fix it?
[13:36] <XenomorphCmputin> i want a skunklock case for my son
[13:36] <XenomorphCmputin> if he opens the computer, he has to barf
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> XenomorphCmputin  use this to convert pdf to Word, you can then convert to .odt ... i didnt find another way
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> XenomorphCmputin  https://www.pdftoword.com/
[13:37] <xXEoflaOEXx> When I run ./configure in xscreensaver 5.36 directory I see so many lines and then it says: configure: error: Couldn't find X11 headers/libs.  Try `./configure --help'.
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> VN7  ^^^^
[13:38] <XenomorphCmputin> MonkeyDust, i need it as dbase
[13:38] <mikubuntu> if i want to backup all files on the system to i want to grab the 'home folder' or the 'username' folder?
[13:38] <antifa> hey ! any one here ? I just upgraded my ubuntu and wanted to select a new imput language but the only 2 active languages are english and english us or something like that, the other languages are blured and can't be selected any ideas ?
[13:38] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, /home shouldn't be much bigger so you may as well
[13:39] <mikubuntu> lordcirth_: ok thx
[13:40] <VN7> MonkeyDust, i USED this, but it doesn't give me all the right types of table of content, headlines and so on.
[13:40] <VN7> MonkeyDust, this: http://filehippo.com/download_free_pdf_to_word_doc_converter/download/f5a10043e12eab9fb55aee2eb998c47f/.
[13:41] <mikubuntu> so to recap, i have a 16gb usb, and i want to store my backup AND put the bootable .iso of lub 64bit 16.04 on it -- i should gpart two partitions? one ext4 and what other one to receive the backup files?
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> VN7  that's a .exe, for windows
[13:42] <VN7> MonkeyDust, Yes, I use Windows at this computer, but Ubuntu on my other.
[13:42] <VN7> MonkeyDust, I test the site you gave and see if I get the headlines, table of context more accurate this time.
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> VN7  ok, hope it's useful
[13:43] <zackychan> Hi, I installed new kernel with  apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-utopic , but after reboot they are not loaded. what should I do ?
[13:43] <VN7> MonkeyDust, thanks, have a nice one.
[13:45] <FatSpitfire> MonkeyDust , have you configured Bind9 DNS ?
[13:46] <antifa> hey ! any one here ? I just upgraded my ubuntu and wanted to select a new imput language but the only 2 active languages are english and english us or something like that, the other languages are blured and can't be selected any ideas ?
[13:47] <superguest> !theme
[13:47] <superguest> You know someone ought to update !theme, it's so outdated it's not even funny
[13:50] <antifa> hey ! any one here ? I just upgraded my ubuntu and wanted to select a new imput language but the only 2 active languages are english and english us or something like that, the other languages are blured and can't be selected any ideas ?
[13:51] <lanoxx> it seems my php installation on Ubuntu 16.04 is broken, when I execute a simple php script such as phpinfo() I see the following error message: handle($request); $response->send(); $kernel->terminate($request, $response); I am thinking that this is broken since I upgraded from Ubuntu 14.04 to Ubuntu 16.04 since I have not used php or apache since then
[13:51] <lanoxx> Has anybody previously encountered this problem and can suggest a fix?
[13:51] <lanoxx> currently I am not even sure how to debug this
[13:51] <mikubuntu> is there a commandline way to save at least a list of all my apps, browsers, programs etc?
[13:51] <xXEoflaOEXx> When I run ./configure in xscreensaver 5.36 directory I see so many lines and then it says: configure: error: Couldn't find X11 headers/libs.  Try `./configure --help'.
[13:52] <XenomorphCmputin> antiaff: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/prefs-language-install.html
[13:52] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, when you install the iso, it's usually not as a partition - you should be able to set that up but it won't be the normal way.
[13:52] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, actually, you could format it all ext4, put the iso on as a file, and then custom-configure Grub on the USB to boot the ISO.  Tricky though.
[13:52] <mikubuntu> lordcirth_: so it's preferable to use one usb for my backup and another for the .iso?
[13:52] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, that would be simplest, yes
[13:53] <mikubuntu> lordcirth_: ok, time to go search for a usb .. lol
[13:54] <FatSpitfire> lanoxx , reinstall php bro - sudo apt-get install -reinstall php5
[13:54] <mikubuntu> lordcirth_: and the .iso usb i format with gpart as ext4 or fat32?
[13:54] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, when you dd the iso over, it overwrites everything.
[13:54] <nolaif> hey
[13:55] <lordcirth_> nolaif, hi
[13:55] <mikubuntu> lordcirth_: but i have to format the stick right?
[13:55] <VN7> Anyone here who can say why my ubuntu 16.04 miss wifi connection and have wrong time on upstart, but this is fixed when I restart computer?
[13:55] <mikubuntu> lordcirth_: i'm about to erase everything on it
[13:55] <FatSpitfire> mikubuntu , depends if you want you windows7 to see the partition ? do you dual boot ?
[13:56] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, normally you just dd the iso onto it.  which would overwrite everything
[13:56] <mikubuntu> FatSpitfire: nope, just gonna be lub
[13:56] <lordcirth_> so a filesystem would be pointless
[13:57] <mikubuntu> lordcirth_: forgive my ignorance, i just really don't understand more than a 1rst grader of this even tho i've been around since 7.04 lol
[13:57] <FatSpitfire> mikubuntu , I suggest installing ubuntu server , than lubuntu-desktop
[13:58] <lordcirth_> FatSpitfire, why?
[13:58] <mikubuntu> FatSpitfire: that sounds like it's over my pay-grade
[13:58] <FatSpitfire> ubuntu server is more stable
[13:58] <lanoxx> FatSpitfire, done that, it installed php php7.0 php7.0-fpm after that I also manuall installed libapache2-mod-php but I am still getting the same issue
[13:58] <mikubuntu> FatSpitfire: i don't know anything about running a server tho
[13:58] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, the ISO contains it's own bootloader and filesystem inside.  So you just overwrite the drive with it raw, and it's formatted how you want
[13:58] <ikonia> no it's not FatSpitfire
[13:58] <lordcirth_> FatSpitfire, how is it more stable if you install the same packages?
[13:59] <ikonia> FatSpitfire: I suggest you stop  saying nonsense things please
[13:59] <mikubuntu> lord
[13:59] <ikonia> mikubuntu: lubuntu is just fine, it's the same core OS as the server OS, hence why FatSpitfire is incorrect
[13:59] <mikubuntu> lordcirth_: ok
[13:59] <FatSpitfire> lanoxx , damn - where are you getting that error ? on your server ?
[13:59] <mikubuntu> ikonia: ok
[13:59] <lanoxx> FatSpitfire, on my local machine
[13:59] <ikonia> lanoxx: that is not "broken"
[14:00] <mikubuntu> so i'm gonna go ahead and erase my usb
[14:00] <ikonia> lanoxx: which php version are you currently using ?
[14:00] <FatSpitfire> ikonia , wow - I guess you`re right :D you must be a dev or smth
[14:00] <ikonia> FatSpitfire: no
[14:00] <mikubuntu> to install the .iso (right after i save the /home folder to another usb)
[14:00] <lanoxx> FatSpitfire, ikonia $php --version
[14:00] <lanoxx> PHP 7.0.8-0ubuntu0.16.04.3 (cli) ( NTS )
[14:00] <ikonia> lanoxx: ok - so you've moved from php 5 on 14.04 to 7 on 16.04
[14:01] <ikonia> lanoxx: what does the web server log show on that request ?
[14:01] <mikubuntu> ooops, nother question -- for the backup of /home what kind of formatting?
[14:01] <lanoxx> ikonia, yes I think so, that most likely happend automatically during the upgrade
[14:01] <ikonia> lanoxx: correct, it's expected
[14:01] <lanoxx> ikonia, the log seems to show nothing, which is really surprising me
[14:01] <ikonia> lanoxx: which log are you looking at
[14:02] <lanoxx> ikonia, /var/log/apache2/error.log, and also /var/log/apache2/mysite.log (which I have setup through sites-available and sites-enabled in /etc/apache2
[14:03] <ikonia> lanoxx: so do you see the hit in the site access log /
[14:03] <lanoxx> ikonia, does not seem so
[14:03] <ikonia> lanoxx: then what is it hitting ?
[14:03] <ikonia> lanoxx: thats the first question you've got to find
[14:04] <mikubuntu> good god, i guess this box doesn't even have gparted on it -- should i install via synaptic, software center, or commandline?
[14:04] <Iwan-w> Hi I'm trying to connect to my vpn using openvpn, the problem is name resolution doesn't work when I'm connected, I can ping to ips but domain resolve doesn't work any suggestions?
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  yes, you can install it
[14:04] <ikonia> mikubuntu: lets step back, what is it you're actually trying to achieve here
[14:04] <FatSpitfire> mikubuntu , whatever is easier bro
[14:05] <FatSpitfire> mikubuntu , btw installing ubuntu server is almost as easy as the desktop version
[14:05] <mikubuntu> i guess i installed with sudo apt-get install gparted
[14:06] <FatSpitfire> mikubuntu nice :)
[14:06] <lanoxx> ikonia, I have setup an new entry in /etc/hosts pointing mysite.local to 127.0.1.1, so it should be accessing the local apache installation
[14:06] <mikubuntu> FatSpitfire: yes seems to have installed
[14:06] <zackychan>  Hi, I installed new kernel with  apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-utopic , but after reboot they are not loaded. what should I do ?
[14:06] <ikonia> lanoxx: but you just said it's not
[14:06] <ikonia> zackychan: "not loaded" what do you mean
[14:06] <zackychan> after reboot I still get old kernel version
[14:07] <ikonia> zackychan: is this a physical machine or vps
[14:07] <zackychan> ikonia physical dedicated server
[14:07] <ikonia> zackychan: what does the grub config show the default kernel as
[14:08] <zackychan> ikonia , what command should I enter ?
[14:09] <FatSpitfire> mikubuntu , now play around a bit - you can do almost anything with Gparted
[14:09] <Sircle> Hi
[14:09] <Sircle> I am using 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation G98 [Quadro NVS 420]. I do not get the second display. I only get one (the first) display. I tried to swap the leds to check if everything was in order. It was. I am trying to setup a multi seat as a note. Any one has a clue on what might be wrong?
[14:10] <VN7> anyone here have some knowledge why my wifi not start and time is wrong on my ubuntu machine, but it corrects on restart?
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  it's fot partitioning your usb drive, right? make sure you don't accidentally partition the wrong drive
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> or disk
[14:10] <zackychan> ikonia: what command should I enter to see that ?
[14:10] <FatSpitfire> Sircle , must be the display drivers
[14:11] <lanoxx> ikonia, now its suddenly working, I guess most likely is that FatSpitfire's suggestion to reinstall php7 actually resolved the problem and firefox was just serving me stupid cached files
[14:11] <FatSpitfire> MonkeyDust , so do you do Bind9 configs ?
[14:11] <Sircle> FatSpitfire:  display drivers? I am geting the first display. I swapped LCDs. Both work. But not at the same time.
[14:12] <Sircle> FatSpitfire:  the xrandr says disconnected to 3 our of 4
[14:12] <mikubuntu> monkey -- i just erased a usb that had an old iso on it, then i closed gparted, then i removed the stick, and then returned it to port -- doesn't that supposed to automagically mount/format it?
[14:12] <FatSpitfire> Sircle , hm ... you have to find an app called Aditional Drivers in start menu
[14:12] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: -- i just erased a usb that had an old iso on it, then i closed gparted, then i removed the stick, and then returned it to port -- doesn't that supposed to automagically mount/format it?
[14:13] <ppf> Sircle: can you paste the xrandr output?
[14:13] <FatSpitfire> mikubuntu it`s not like in windows :)
[14:13] <EriC^^> mikubuntu: formating is making a filesystem on it, mounting it mounting is mounting the filesystem under a dir
[14:13] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: wondering if i'm ready to backup my /home file to it
[14:13] <Sircle> FatSpitfire:  ok, it says nvidia 340  340.96 recommended
[14:14] <EriC^^> mikubuntu: to see the disk and any partitions and filesystems try sudo parted -l
[14:14] <mikubuntu> EriC^^: just wondering if its ready to receive my backup of /home?
[14:14] <EriC^^> mikubuntu: try sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:14] <EriC^^> and paste the link it gives you here
[14:15] <Sircle> ppf: DP-0 connected primary 1680x1050+0+0,  DP-1 disconnected (same for DP-2,3)
[14:16] <Shaan7> Funny, I get this when trying to access termbin.com - "Your requested URL has been blocked as per the directions received from Department of Telecommunications, Government of India. Please contact administrator for more information."
[14:16] <Shaan7> Clap clap governments -_-
[14:16] <ikonia> Shaan7: what do you want us to do about that ?
[14:16] <cfhowlett> Shaan7, try pastebinit
[14:17] <Shaan7> @ikonia nothing, was just sharing it :)
[14:17] <Shaan7> thanks @cfhowlett
[14:17] <ikonia> Shaan7: not really for this channel, if you need to share a paste, try one of the other pastebin services, eg: pastebin.ubuntu.com
[14:17] <cfhowlett> Shaan7, happy2help!
[14:17] <FatSpitfire> Shaan7 , guess you have to use VPN , Tor or smth :D lucky you don`t live in Belize
[14:18] <anthonyb921> '
[14:18] <mikubuntu> EriC^^:  https://imagebin.ca/v/2zT8RHCVkmVe
[14:18] <ikonia> there is no need for tor or vpns
[14:19] <ikonia> there are many other paste services available
[14:19] <FatSpitfire> mikubuntu , not ready yet
[14:19] <Sircle> FatSpitfire: ppf the nvidia 340 was already selected in drivers (and was also marked as recommended)
[14:19] <FatSpitfire> ikonia , true - but in Belize they don`t get skype even :D
[14:20] <mikubuntu> FatSpitfire: ok, what next :)
[14:20] <opal>  👌  /-current/ctopic ! IT'S BACK: gnaa.tech +6697 #gnaa  😂
[14:20] <FatSpitfire> Sircle , look for a ubuntu driver for your video card from NVidia`s site
[14:20] <ikonia> FatSpitfire: what has that got to do with anything
[14:21] <FatSpitfire> mikubuntu , go back to Gparted and place a boot flag on the second partition
[14:21] <ikonia> you don't need a boot flag
[14:22] <mikubuntu> FatSpitfire: i'm just going to backup my /home folder on this one
[14:22] <FatSpitfire> Sircle , that meant that the driver chosen by ubuntu is an old one that`s compatible with yours
[14:22] <mikubuntu> FatSpitfire: going to use another to put the .iso
[14:23] <Sircle> FatSpitfire:  ok, w So I should change it to something else?
[14:24] <FatSpitfire> mikubuntu  , you have to format it and place a boot flag if you place your backup iso there - no flag if smth else
[14:24] <marisia> join #ubuntu
[14:24] <cfhowlett> marisia, you are already in #ubuntu. what is your question
[14:24] <mikubuntu> FatSpitfire: no, not a backup .iso, just a backup of my files
[14:24] <marisia> sorry, i was just testing this application
[14:25] <FatSpitfire> Sircle , I suggest trying to find the right driver for your video - I had the same problem long ago - ubuntu doesn`t support Nvidia much
[14:25] <Sircle> FatSpitfire:  http://imgur.com/a/yRQKk which one to use?
[14:25] <Murii> Anyone here using a chromebook with linux on it besides chromeos?
[14:25] <Murii>  I made the seabios to boot but the system can't see the usb
[14:25] <FatSpitfire> marisia , use /join
[14:26] <mikubuntu> FatSpitfire: uh - oh -- how do i check for MY video card?
[14:26] <marisia> ok
[14:27] <FatSpitfire> Sircle , hm ... stick with the recommended one for now
[14:28] <ppf> Sircle: how are your displays connected?
[14:28] <FatSpitfire> Sircle , google if someone had the same problem and how it resolved - I never fixed my problem
[14:29] <Sircle> ppf:  via dvi port
[14:29] <ikonia> FatSpitfire: ubuntu has strong nvidia support
[14:29] <ikonia> FatSpitfire: and you don't need the boot flag
[14:29] <ikonia> could you please stop giving miss-informaiton out
[14:29] <FatSpitfire> mikubuntu , same - additional drivers in start menu
[14:30] <FatSpitfire> ikonia , yes , yes - and piggs fly :D so maybe they don`t have good ATI support than ?
[14:30] <ppf> Sircle: your xrandr paste says DP
[14:30] <mikubuntu> ikonia: FatSpitfire  i'm getting a little worried about FatSpitfire info
[14:30] <ikonia> FatSpitfire: ATI support depends on a lot of things,
[14:31] <mikubuntu> ikonia i'm just wondering if you think my stick is ready to accept a backup of my files (/home?) https://imagebin.ca/v/2zT8RHCVkmVe
[14:31] <FatSpitfire> ikonia , yeah ? - go back in #ubuntu-devel than
[14:31] <C2H5OH> I don't get it, the media-keys plugin of unity-settings-daemon seems to be running, but it doesn't respond when keys are hit
[14:31] <ikonia> FatSpitfire: what ?
[14:31] <mikubuntu> ikonia: i'm just wondering if you think my stick is ready to accept a backup of my files (/home?) https://imagebin.ca/v/2zT8RHCVkmVe
[14:31] <Sircle> FatSpitfire:  ppf  I just searched nvidea site and its showinga little newer download name that I have http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/107868/en-us     (340.98) and the popup of upbunto has 340.96. Should I use the new one?
[14:32] <FatSpitfire> ikonia , you seem to know a lot of ubuntu`s support , but no real help to the guy
[14:32] <ikonia> mikubuntu: I'm not sure what you're asking, to backup your files you just need a partition with a file system on it
[14:32] <ppf> Sircle: let me understand your problem first before you're rushing to point to nvidia drivers
[14:32] <ppf> explain your setup, please
[14:32] <Sircle> FatSpitfire:  ppf  should I also checkbox the "using processor microcode firmware for Intel CPUs from intel-microcode?
[14:33] <mikubuntu> ikonia: i just want to back up my files (mostly pics and docs) so i can blast this OS to kingdom come
[14:33] <Sircle> ppf FatSpitfire  I think these are properiety dirvers
[14:33] <ikonia> mikubuntu: dead easy, create a file system on the stick, mount it, copy the files you want to keep onto it
[14:33] <FatSpitfire> Sircle , better not - let`s get back on the original question . post it again please so everyone can see it
[14:33] <ikonia> thats all you need
[14:33] <ppf> Sircle: yes nvidia drivers are proprietary
[14:33] <ppf> your installed drivers are all right
[14:33] <Sircle> ppf:  2 LCD/LEDs, once pc,
[14:33] <poopie> how do I purge a thingy I don't want in the system? rm -R /etc/20_16/hill4ry still leaves some old crap =/
[14:33] <insy> @mikbuntu put them in cloud
[14:34] <ppf> Sircle: connected how?
[14:34] <Sircle> ppf:  dvi
[14:34] <Mathisen> poopie, rm -rf /folder
[14:34] <ikonia> ppf: -rf
[14:34] <ikonia> oops, sorry ppf
[14:34] <mikubuntu> ikonia: i just want to save everything wholesale, not pick and choose through folders and directories
[14:34] <ikonia> poopie: -rf
[14:34] <ppf> two dvi ports?
[14:34] <ikonia> mikubuntu: what exactly are you trying to achieve here
[14:34] <ikonia> mikubuntu: are you trying to take an "image" of your OS
[14:34] <ppf> on one gpu?
[14:34] <poopie> ppf thx that got all of the hill4ry junk out of the system!
[14:34] <ikonia> mikubuntu: or backup files/folders
[14:34] <mikubuntu> ikonia: backup files/folders
[14:35] <Sircle> ppf:  FatSpitfire  pasting again as you said
[14:35] <Sircle> I am using 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation G98 [Quadro NVS 420]. I do not get the second display. I only get one (the
[14:35] <Sircle>                 first) display. I tried to swap the leds to check if everything was in order. It was. I am trying to setup a multi seat
[14:35] <Sircle>                 as a note. Any one has a clue on what might be wrong?
[14:35] <ikonia> mikubuntu: so what files/folders do you want to save ?
[14:35] <mikubuntu> then install lubuntu 16.04
[14:35] <Sircle> ppf: I have 4 ports with teh card. Using only 2
[14:35] <ppf> Sircle: okay that answers the one gpu question
[14:36] <mikubuntu> ikonia: like all standard ones pictures documents downloads etc that i can fit on 16gb
[14:36] <ppf> DVI you say
[14:36] <ppf> xrandr says DP thoough
[14:36] <ppf> how is that?
[14:36] <ikonia> mikubuntu: so basically your home directory ?
[14:36] <mikubuntu> ikonia: yes i guess
[14:36] <Sircle> ppf:  that I dont know
[14:37] <mikubuntu> ikonia: so i just want to know if the stick is ready to receive it?
[14:37] <FatSpitfire> mikubuntu , at least format the other partition with ext4 - that will be good
[14:37] <ikonia> mikubuntu: so if you put a file system on that pen drive, it will automatically mount, then from your file manage copy and paste your home directory onto that pen drives mount point
[14:37] <ppf> Sircle: paste the entire output of xrandr please
[14:37] <ikonia> mikubuntu: according to that screen shot there is no partition on your pen drive
[14:37] <cfhowlett> FatSpitfire, false.  standard format for USB backup is ntfs
[14:37] <ikonia> mikubuntu: is that where you are expecting to be
[14:38] <plutonium> yo
[14:38] <mikubuntu> cfhowlett: so ntfs = fat32, right?
[14:38] <ikonia> no
[14:38] <Sircle> ppf:  FatSpitfire https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8921300
[14:38] <ikonia> mikubuntu: lets focus on getting you a backup here, you have a pen drive with no partitions on - is that where you think you are ?
[14:38] <FatSpitfire> mikubuntu , goddamn it - am I the only one who opened your .jpg file :D do it - just open gparted and format
[14:39] <ikonia> mikubuntu: ignore FatSpitfire
[14:39] <mikubuntu> ikonia: yes as seen in screenshot
[14:39] <ikonia> FatSpitfire: enough - there is no partition on the pen drive - so telling him to format will cause problems
[14:39] <ikonia> mikubuntu: ok, great, so you need to create a partition
[14:39] <ikonia> mikubuntu: so lets just do this clean and simple
[14:39] <ikonia> mikubuntu: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[14:39] <mikubuntu> ikonia: ok
[14:39] <ikonia> mikubuntu: then press "n" for new partition
[14:39] <ikonia> mikubuntu: then press "p" for primary partition
[14:40] <ikonia> mikubuntu: then accept the defaults and press "w" to write and save the new partition table
[14:40] <ppf> Sircle: the quadro card has a weird connector
[14:40] <ppf> what kind of adapter are you using?
[14:40] <Sircle> ppf: FatSpitfire question: should I  check the checkbox? http://imgur.com/a/yRQKk   b) should I download latest driver from nvideio 340.98 or stick with what ubuntu provided me 340.96?
[14:40] <EriC^^> mikubuntu: just saw your paste, follow what ikonia's saying
[14:40] <poopie> how do I build a wall up to protect my stuff? Is there a way to see if it is up?
[14:40] <Sircle> ppf:  adapter? what do you meant, I am using 420 model with simple dvi cables
[14:41] <cfhowlett> poopie, wall?  what?
[14:41] <ppf>  Sircle for get about the driver
[14:41] <ppf> for the moment at least
[14:41] <Sircle> ppf:  ok..
[14:41] <ikonia> cfhowlett: I suspect this is a troll, hillary "junk" and trump "wall to protect"
[14:41] <ppf> Sircle: http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_420_us.html
[14:41] <mikubuntu> ikonia: how do i 'accept the defaults'
[14:41] <Sircle> ppf:  ahan
[14:41] <ikonia> mikubuntu: just hit enter
[14:41] <cfhowlett> ikonia, oh.  thanks.  added to /ignore
[14:42] <ppf> that your card?
[14:42] <guzzlefry> Do most external bluray burners work out of the box in Ubuntu 16.04?
[14:42] <ikonia> guzzlefry: as a device, yes
[14:42] <Sircle> ppf:  yes
[14:42] <guzzlefry> I feel a 'but' coming on.
[14:42] <ikonia> guzzlefry: nope
[14:42] <guzzlefry> oh, good :)
[14:42] <mikubuntu> ikonia: then, first sector enter 'w' ?
[14:42] <Sircle> ppf:  and these cables https://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/images2500x2500/PNY_Technologies_030_0230_000_VHDCI_to_4x_DVI_D_625342.jpg
[14:43] <ikonia> mikubuntu: no, just hit enter,
[14:43] <cfhowlett> guzzlefry, most not all.  best you research the specific model you want before purchase to verify linux support
[14:43] <ikonia> mikubuntu: at the end of all the settings you will go back to the main menu, hit "w" to save and quit
[14:43] <EriC^^> mikubuntu: if it asks you for type, choose "07"
[14:44] <FatSpitfire> Sircle , shame you can`t use its full potencial
[14:44] <Sircle> FatSpitfire:  am?
[14:44] <Sircle> FatSpitfire:  I didnt got you well. Do you mean this is a something great to have this card?
[14:45] <FatSpitfire> Sircle , yeah , the card is really good - shame you can`t use it as it should
[14:45] <ikonia> FatSpitfire: why can't he use it ?
[14:45] <Sircle> FatSpitfire:  so thats only because of drivers?
[14:46] <mikubuntu> ikonia: EriC^^  i am here :: https://imagebin.ca/v/2zTGq3XftRkZ
[14:46] <FatSpitfire> Sircle , not sure
[14:46] <Sircle> ppf:  there?
[14:46] <ikonia> FatSpitfire: why can't he use it to it's full potential ?
[14:47] <FatSpitfire> ask him not me :)
[14:47] <ikonia> mikubuntu: hit "w"
[14:47] <Sircle> FatSpitfire:  how about buying a 450? http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_450_us.html
[14:47] <FatSpitfire> ikonia , pls scroll a bit up , where you can see his question
[14:48] <ikonia> FatSpitfire: I see him saying it needs configuring to use the second screen
[14:48] <ikonia> but nothing about it not being able to use it to it's full potential
[14:48] <FatSpitfire> well configure him than !
[14:48] <ppf> Sircle: have you tried all the ports?
[14:49] <ppf> both displays on all the ports?
[14:49] <ppf> both in dual and single mode
[14:49] <Sircle> ppf: ports have numbers in them. 1,2,3,4 Going  from 2 to 3 or 4 might not work (shop keeper said)
[14:49] <Sircle> ppf:  let me try if you say
[14:50] <mikubuntu> ok ikonia i am here: https://imagebin.ca/v/2zTHtccZMZit
[14:50] <ikonia> mikubuntu: ok, now you need to put a file system on /dev/sdb1
[14:51] <ikonia> mikubuntu: you can put whatever file system you feel best on it and use whatever tool you feel comfortable with
[14:51] <cansurfer2> Anyone have any luck running 16.10 in Virtualbox on a Windows host?  I have the issue mentioned here, and none of the proposed fixes there have worked.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/800858/unable-to-resize-launcher-icon-in-ubuntu-16-04
[14:51] <mikubuntu> that IS the usb right?
[14:51] <EriC^^> mikubuntu: yeah, sudo parted -l should now show you a partition below the usb info
[14:52] <EriC^^> mikubuntu: sudo mkfs.ntfs -f /dev/sdb1 makes a ntfs filesystem , sudo mkfs.fat /dev/sdb1 makes a fat32 filesystem
[14:52] <mikubuntu> ikonia: i don't feel comfortable with ANYTHING .. lol.
[14:53] <EriC^^> fat32 can't have bigger than 4gb files on it
[14:53] <ikonia> mikubuntu: ok, sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1
[14:53] <ikonia> mikubuntu: that will put ext4 on it
[14:53] <ikonia> mikubuntu: which means any linux box should be able to read it as a device
[14:54] <EriC^^> he won't be able to use it on windows out of the box though
[14:54] <Sircle> ppf:  FatSpitfire  I just got display on both lcds.... I plugged dvi cable in port#1 and #3
[14:54] <Sircle> ppf:  FatSpitfire  I just got display on both lcds.... I plugged dvi cable in port#1 and #4 *
[14:54] <ppf> great
[14:54] <mikubuntu> ikonia: EriC^^ so do i want ntfs, fat32, or ext4?
[14:55] <mikubuntu> i'm losing oxygen to the brain
[14:55] <ppf> do you want the stick to work on windows too?
[14:55] <ppf> then ntfs
[14:55] <Sircle> ppf:  FatSpitfire  I wondwer wh why why the port#2 was not working
[14:55] <ppf> no idea
[14:55] <ppf> broken cable?
[14:55] <EriC^^> mikubuntu: ntfs would be a good choice to use it on windows linux or other devices
[14:55] <mikubuntu> no windows, #neverwindows
[14:55] <EriC^^> mikubuntu: fat32 would be better for compatibility like if you want to use it on a tv or car stereo etc
[14:55] <Sircle> ppf:  FatSpitfire  is there a sqeuence of empty / fill ports?
[14:56] <ppf> no idea
[14:56] <FatSpitfire> Sircle , weird indeed bro :)
[14:56] <EriC^^> mikubuntu: you never know though, maybe you need to get a file off your friend or something
[14:56] <ppf> depends how the adapter is built
[14:56] <FatSpitfire> Sircle at least its working
[14:57] <mikubuntu> EriC^^: i see the advantage to ntfs if i have to read it at the library or some other public box huh?
[14:57] <FatSpitfire> mikubuntu , I agree with Eric - make the second partition fat32
[14:57] <mikubuntu> FatSpitfire: I don't think i want any second partition particularly
[14:58] <ikonia> FatSpitfire: there is no second partition
[14:58] <ikonia> FatSpitfire: there is only 1 partition on the usb device
[14:58] <FatSpitfire> so instead of letting the guy (mikubuntu) do it by himself with Gparted - you made him confuse himself with parted ? is that right ?
[14:58] <mikubuntu> FatSpitfire: well i mean i don't NEED any second partition
[14:58] <poopie> what kernel is ubuntu using atm?
[14:58] <ikonia> poopie: depends on the version
[14:58] <EriC^^> mikubuntu: yeah
[14:58] <mikubuntu> FatSpitfire: but you just told me to make second partition fat32
[14:58] <ppf> !kernel
[14:58] <poopie> if you do uname -a
[14:58] <Sircle> FatSpitfire:  ppf  thanks!. Maybe broken card as well and not the cable? secondly I hope I can set multiseat with it?
[14:59] <poopie> FreeBSD god 10.3-STABLE FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE #0 r295946+9bbba48(9.10-STABLE)
[14:59] <EriC^^> poopie: /msg ubottu !info linux-generic <distro release name>
[14:59] <ikonia> poopie: we are not interested in this
[14:59] <ikonia> poopie: if you have an ubuntu question, just ask
[14:59] <FatSpitfire> yeah ? and did he say he wanted to partition another one for backups ? or am I the only one who reads
[14:59] <poopie> was just wondering if it was on 4.8 or more
[14:59] <ikonia> FatSpitfire: on the usb - he's created a partiion on the usb stick for backups, he does not need a second one
[14:59] <ikonia> poopie: no current ubuntu version is 4.8
[15:00] <poopie> so what is the current one?
[15:00] <FatSpitfire> Sircle , happy for you dude - keep us posted :)
[15:00] <ikonia> poopie: which one 16.04 or 16.10
[15:00] <EriC^^> !Info linux-generic > poopie
[15:00] <poopie> 16.10
[15:00] <ikonia> check the pm the bot (ubottu) has just sent you poopie
[15:01] <mikubuntu> EriC^^: ikonia so:  sudo mkfs.ntfs -f /dev/sdb1  ?
[15:01] <EriC^^> !info linux-generic > poopie
[15:01] <FatSpitfire> ikonia , oh really ? wow I guess I want looking like you did - good job
[15:01] <ikonia> mikubuntu: why do you want ntfs
[15:01] <ikonia> mikubuntu: is this backup to be used by a windows machine at all ?
[15:02] <mikubuntu> ikonia: prolly not, but someone suggested it is versatile that it could be if needed
[15:02] <ikonia> mikubuntu: just use the ext4 command I gave you, lets keep it simple
[15:02] <mikubuntu> i just want to access it on my new 16.04 OS if i ever get it installed!! lol
[15:02] <ikonia> mikubuntu: use the command I gave you then
[15:03] <mikubuntu> ikonia: ok, would u mind repeating it?
[15:03] <EriC^^> what a tool
[15:03] <EriC^^> that mkfs
[15:03] <ikonia> mikubuntu: sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1
[15:04] <mikubuntu> sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1 ... ok ikonia
[15:06] <Irany> Hey guys
[15:06] <poopie> you guys try the "ubuntu" that is baked into Windows 10 yet? It is actually kind of good. Try something like  watch -n1 'grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo |sort -k4rn'
[15:06] <poopie> lol proc is there and works
[15:07] <mikubuntu> ikonia: i am here -- https://imagebin.ca/v/2zTNDwsN8NDx
[15:07] <ikonia> poopie: we know
[15:07] <poopie> does that count as ubuntu talk?
[15:07] <ikonia> poopie: do you actually have a question regarding ubuntu ?
[15:08] <cfhowlett> poopie, chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[15:08] <ikonia> mikubuntu: looks good, if you open your file manager, you should see that usb device listed now as a target for you to copy files onto
[15:08] <Irany> Every time i start my computer, my audio settings reset and my i need to activate swap again.
[15:09] <Irany> Someone knows how to fix that?
[15:10] <linux_user> anyone here familiar with vi syntax coloring?
[15:11] <linux_user> don’t everyone answer at one time now! :)
[15:13] <poopie> vi is a real pain. Use emacs with solarize =)
[15:14] <poopie> emacs > vi ... oh nooes
[15:15] <hggdh> poopie: again: if you want to chat, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:18] <mikubuntu> ikonia: so i just drag and drop /home into it?
[15:18] <mikubuntu> ikonia: sorry if i have to confirm every little move
[15:19] <ikonia> mikubuntu: /home/$username
[15:20] <ikonia> mikubuntu: no problem with asking, it's better to ask if you're not sure
[15:20] <mikubuntu> ikonia: so ur saying do command instead of drag and drop?
[15:21] <mikubuntu> ikonia: is that going to drop all user files (different users on system)?
[15:21] <Irany> I'd be annoying if i copy paste my question again since it's so up?
[15:22] <FatSpitfire> do it :)
[15:22] <mikubuntu> Irany: you can just scroll up in the comment line to find your previous question
[15:22] <ikonia> mikubuntu: no, drag and drop is fine
[15:22] <ikonia> mikubuntu: just take your home direct, not "the" home folder
[15:23] <mikubuntu> ikonia: ok drag and drop it is
[15:23] <mikubuntu> ikonia: uh-oh -- now you confused me
[15:23] <ikonia> mikubuntu: how many users are on your system ?
[15:23] <mikubuntu> ikonia: what's the diff between home direct and home folder?
[15:24] <mikubuntu> ikonia: two users
[15:24] <FatSpitfire> Irany , post it again bro
[15:24] <Irany> I can see my question mikubuntu, but i think that nobody would scroll up looking for questions.
[15:25] <ikonia> mikubuntu: then copy the home folder so it includes both users
[15:25] <Irany> Every time i start my computer, my audio settings reset and my i need to activate swap again.
[15:25] <Irany> Someone knows how to fix that?
[15:25] <mikubuntu> ikonia: ok
[15:25] <ikonia> Irany: pastebin your fstab
[15:25] <Irany> Ok
[15:25] <mikubuntu> Irany: i think the rule is you wait 5 mins between posting questions, unless you already have an identified helper
[15:26] <mikubuntu> Irany: or 10 mins, an op will have to tell you
[15:26] <Irany> Hmm, that rule is interesting.
[15:26] <vinnie92> Hi there
[15:26] <linux_user> I am disinterested in emacs
[15:26] <mikubuntu> Irany: i think just to keep things orderly
[15:27] <linux_user> so now, back to vi, the comments are dark purple, I now know how to set them to a different color, just curious what colors people liked
[15:27] <Irany> And i've thought that fstab was just 'fstab' on terminal, what's fstab ikonia?
[15:27] <mikubuntu> Irany: helpers are volunteers, and sometimes busy with multiple users
[15:27] <vinnie92> I'm using ubuntu 16.04 and I'm facing some issues concerning the wifi connection. The connection speed is slow (compared to the one I get usig windows)
[15:28] <vinnie92> The network card I'm using is the tp link wdn4800
[15:29] <mikubuntu> ikonia: ok, drag and drop not working
[15:30] <poopie> sudo modprobe ath9k not sure if it is built into the ubuntu kernel
[15:30] <vinnie92> these are the information on my network card http://dpaste.com/0MGYATF
[15:30] <Irany> And  what's the command?
[15:30] <mikubuntu> ikonia: maybe a function of this 14.04 general bugginess
[15:30] <ikonia> mikubuntu: define "not working"
[15:30] <vlt> Hello. Why can root read (and even write to) a file that has 000 permissions?
[15:31] <vinnie92> poopie: the OS detects correctly the card
[15:31] <ikonia> Irany: it's a file, in /etc, so /etc/fstab
[15:31] <Irany> Ok
[15:31] <vinnie92> so I guess that the driver was loaded by the system
[15:31] <mikubuntu> ikonia: i mean i try to grab the /home and it doesn't grab to move and drop
[15:31] <poopie> vinnie92, what does lsmod |grep -i ath  show?
[15:32] <ikonia> mikubuntu: right click on it
[15:32] <vinnie92> poopie: did you see this? http://dpaste.com/0MGYATF
[15:32] <FatSpitfire> mikubuntu , I know what`s the problem
[15:32] <mikubuntu> FatSpitfire: i bet ikonia disagrees with you, but shoot
[15:33] <Irany> http://pastebin.com/x7AwenSK
[15:33] <FatSpitfire> mikubuntu , you don`t  have privileges - just do it as root -    sudo su and sudo pcmanfm for root fime manager
[15:33] <vinnie92> Kernel driver in use: ath9k
[15:33] <ikonia> yeah ignore FatSpitfire
[15:33] <poopie> vinnie92, ok you have it that looks like it should. Do you have iw installed?
[15:33] <ikonia> sudo su should never be used
[15:33] <vinnie92> poopie: no, what it is?
[15:33] <ikonia> you may have write problems due to file system permissions, but not read problems
[15:34] <vinnie92> I'm running a stock version of ubuntu 16.04. I haven't installed anything yet
[15:34] <ikonia> we can do this easier from the shell
[15:34] <FatSpitfire> ok do what you want
[15:34] <Hydrogrow> Hello!
[15:34] <ikonia> mikubuntu: can you pastebin the output of the command "mount" please
[15:34] <poopie> iw is a network tool that makes life easy on GNU/Linux
[15:34] <mikubuntu> ikonia: right click offers me to open in new tab, new window, or new terminal
[15:34] <FatSpitfire> i can tell you the same from shell - but its the same
[15:34] <FatSpitfire> he has to be root !!! that`s all
[15:34] <poopie> ikonia, you dont use sudo with GNU/Linux Ubuntu?
[15:34] <Hydrogrow> Man, its been a longtime since I last used IRC.! how are yall?!
[15:34] <ikonia> poopie: you do
[15:35] <poopie> k
[15:35] <ikonia> FatSpitfire: he probably can't write to the pen drive as we've not changed the permissions yet
[15:35] <ikonia> but he should be able to read his own home directory
[15:35] <Irany> ikonia http://pastebin.com/x7AwenSK
[15:35] <FatSpitfire> read it yes , but not to copy unless he`s sudo su
[15:36] <ikonia> FatSpitfire: you don't use sudo su
[15:36] <ikonia> FatSpitfire: and you only need read permissions to be able to copy
[15:36] <ikonia> copy = read
[15:36] <mikubuntu> ikonia: https://imagebin.ca/v/2zTW0lkKXro6
[15:36] <FatSpitfire> anyways - usb permisions ? forgot about them :D
[15:36] <poopie> if he is in that group but I guess that is all set up. Last I use Ubuntu was when it was using the old Gnome. BTW you know me as Onryo ikonia =P
[15:36] <FatSpitfire> your home folder ? ok do it and upload a pic please
[15:37] <vinnie92> poopie: so I have to install iw? Then what I should do?
[15:37] <ikonia> Irany: you have to activate swap each time as there is no swap partition defined in the fstab file
[15:37] <FatSpitfire> don`t just tell me over and over
[15:37] <FatSpitfire> I`ll be back in an hour to see - promise ! :D
[15:37] <vinnie92> good
[15:37] <vinnie92> anyone else can help me?
[15:37] <Irany> Oh..how i define?
[15:38] <ikonia> Irany: look at the example thats there
[15:38] <ikonia> mikubuntu: lets do this simple
[15:38] <ikonia> mikubuntu: "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt'"
[15:38] <ikonia> mikubuntu: "sudo cp -Rp /home /mnt"
[15:39] <mikubuntu> ikonia: sequentially, right? one, then the other?
[15:39] <ikonia> mikubuntu: correct
[15:40] <existensil> Ubuntu 16.10. Trying to figure out where my PATH is getting setup. Put echo statements at the top of ~/.bashrc and /etc/bash.bashrc and can see it already has ~/bin and ~/.local/bin but can't figure out from where.
[15:42] <existensil> Full PATH in case that's useful. This is the full path even before /etc/bash.bashrc executes: /home/carl/bin:/home/carl/.local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin
[15:43] <kermini> Literally Hitler™ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I63o4cJKnjw "Trump is Literally Hitler™ for wanting to put America First."
[15:44] <existensil> I'd like to understand how the bash environment get's loaded. According to old docs the PATH shouldn't really be setup this early. Anyone know what might load before /etc/bash.bashrc in 100% stock 16.10 install using gnome-terminal+bash?
[15:44] <mikubuntu> ikonia: uh-oh -- http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23370178/
[15:45] <mikubuntu> ikonia: and i couldn't use imagebin because it wouldn't let me copy my screenshot, said i only have read permission
[15:45] <ikonia> mikubuntu: thats fine
[15:45] <ikonia> mikubuntu: what happens if you do "sudo touch /mnt/test"
[15:45] <__gengar__> hey i'm playing around with unetbootin and I'm having trouble burning to a usbdrive.. it says its connected /dev/sdb2 and when I try to make it says i need to mount it first....
[15:48] <LostSoul> Hi
[15:49] <LostSoul> I'm having trouble with making working lxc container using non-standard bridge
[15:49] <LostSoul> I mean, I've setup brigde, configure container to use it but I can access it from for example my laptop
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> LostSoul  there's also #lxcontainers
[15:50] <ducasse> LostSoul: how did you set up the bridge?
[15:51] <LostSoul> ducasse: Sending  paste of config
[15:51] <mikubuntu> ikonia: do i open another term for 'sudo touch /mnt/test' as i don't have command prompt in that term i just posted?
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  ctrl-shift t for a new tab
[15:52] <LostSoul> ducasse: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/17e0fe97/
[15:52] <ikonia> mikubuntu: just do it in the same terminal
[15:52] <LostSoul> MonkeyDust: Yeah, I know but I guess catching up with them is much harder
[15:52] <mikubuntu> ikonia: the way MonkeyDust just said?
[15:53] <LostSoul> As #ubuntu is one of themsot active
[15:53] <LostSoul> I've set up VM in VB on ubuntu 14.04
[15:53] <LostSoul> I want to make LXC container (alpine)
[15:53] <ducasse> LostSoul: you need to setup gateway on that bridge
[15:54] <LostSoul> LOL my bad ducasse
[15:54] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: i don't really understand how to do that, you don't mean i enter 'ctrl-shift t' as a command i don't think?
[15:54] <LostSoul> Strange thing, this VM (without brigde) is accessible from my laptop but container is not
[15:55] <LostSoul> wait,what I've just written
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  no, on your keyboard
[15:55] <LostSoul> Strange thing, this VM (without gateway set) is accessible from my laptop but container is not
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  the keys ctrl-shift-t
[15:56] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: ikonia : marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$ sudo touch /mnt/test [sudo] password for marybuntu:  sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/marybuntu/5: No such file or directory
[15:57] <agopo> Hi, I'm trying to install the internet radio app gradio via flatpak. The install seems to be fine, but when I try to run it with "flatpak run de.haeckerfelix.gradio" it gives me the error: "runtime/org.gnome.Platform/x86_64/3.22 is not installed." Anyone know how I can fix this?
[15:57] <LostSoul> ducasse: Still nothing
[15:57] <VN7> anyone can say why my ubuntu 16.04 have wrong time and no wifi on upstart, but this is fixed on reboot?
[15:58] <ducasse> LostSoul: try setting bridge_stp off
[16:01] <ducasse> LostSoul: if that doesn't work, please pastebin the lxc.network.* entries for the container
[16:02] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: ikonia : marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$ sudo touch /mnt/test [sudo] password for marybuntu:  sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/marybuntu/5: No such file or directory
[16:06] <Irany> Thank you ikonia
[16:06] <LostSoul> ducasse: Ok, I will paste  it
[16:06] <LostSoul> ducasse: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/4aa6df9f/
[16:08] <ducasse> LostSoul: you have a lot of duplicated entries there, delete or comment out the first four
[16:09] <LostSoul> ducasse: http://paste.debian.net/889022/ - also apline (maybe problem is here)
[16:10] <LostSoul> ducasse: Is there other way to setup 2 interfaces on LXC?
[16:10] <thor_> Im not allow to do this: chsh -s /usr/bin/fish. I get som chsh: PAM: error. Sudo doenst help much. What to do??
[16:11] <mikubuntu> ikonia: marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$ sudo touch /mnt/test [sudo] password for marybuntu:  sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/marybuntu/5: No such file or directory
[16:11] <hfp> Hi! I have a server currently running Debian 7. It's running a few VM using libvirt and QEMU. This is getting old and I'd like to upgrade. I was thinking to setup a Ubuntu 16.04 system in a VM, get it all up and running and then somehow switch it to metal. What would the best way be? Is it even possible at all? How would I transfer all the VMs currently running on the Debian host?
[16:12] <ducasse> LostSoul: not sure, try #ubuntu-server
[16:12] <hfp> Also, is 16.04 stable enough or should I stick to 14.04? I know it's not very stable on a laptop I own, and the LiveCD has weird issues when I run it in a VM: it eventually gets stuck and blinks the screen white.
[16:13] <hfp> The server is not the newest, it's a Xeon with 2 cores and 8GB RAM
[16:13] <EriC^^> hfp: sure why wouldn't it be
[16:15] <EriC^^> hfp: maybe run it as a vm, then when it's working transfer the install using rsync
[16:15] <Murii> I need an app that will run everytime and show me all the stats of the pc
[16:15] <Murii> like cpu usage/ram/usage of ssd etc
[16:15] <LostSoul> Thanks ducasse
[16:16] <Murii> do you guys know one ?
[16:16] <hfp> EriC^^: So you mean I rsync the VM over to the running Debian? Not sure what do you mean exactly
[16:16] <thor_> okay. Maybe my question was too stupid. I just dont understand the PAM auth thing. Seems strange im not allowed to change default shell from bash to fish.
[16:17] <EriC^^> hfp: rsync the files to the bare metal machine/filesystems
[16:17] <EriC^^> and chroot from a live usb and fix grub and fstab and whatnot then boot it
[16:17] <mikubuntu> ikonia: marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$ sudo touch /mnt/test [sudo] password for marybuntu:  sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/marybuntu/5: No such file or directory
[16:17] <ikonia> mikubuntu: so what else have you done
[16:18] <mikubuntu> ikonia: nothing just the command you asked for
[16:18] <ikonia> mikubuntu: as that wasn't the error you got earlier and now it's having problems with /var/lib that you shouldn't have touched
[16:18] <ikonia> mikubuntu: can you do "sudo ls"
[16:18] <hfp> EriC^^: I see, thanks
[16:19] <hfp> Also, this is a video of what happens when 16.04 install fails: https://d.pr/i/4TsB
[16:19] <mikubuntu> ikonia: sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/marybuntu/5: No such file or directory Desktop    Downloads		Music	  Public     Videos Documents  MIKESIGNREVISION.ps	Pictures  Templates marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$
[16:20] <ikonia> mikubuntu: so it appears ls is working but sudo is no longer working
[16:20] <mikubuntu> ikonia: that doesn't look good
[16:20] <ikonia> which means you have touched something as sudo was working before
[16:20] <ikonia> mikubuntu: to remove problems I suggest you do this from a livecd
[16:20] <mikubuntu> ikonia: u know i double check every move with you .. lol
[16:21] <mikubuntu> ikonia: not sure i understand
[16:21] <Guest92347> Hello
[16:21] <mikubuntu> ikonia: u mean we can't do the backup?
[16:22] <mikubuntu> omg
[16:22] <FromAscalon> Anyone for a quick chrome related question?
[16:23] <__gengar__> FromAscalon, don't ask to ask
[16:23] <mikubuntu> ikonia: can i install the .iso to the usb and run live and backup onto the same stick?
[16:23] <ikonia> mikubuntu: ls -la /var/lib/sudo
[16:23] <vlt> ducasse: (in case you didn’t already read it): I got the solution to my usb re-plug problem: It’s not a udevadm trigger or scsi rescan. It’s a simple `modprobe usb_storage` :-)  Thanks for your help yesterday.
[16:23] <ikonia> mikubuntu: you can do run the media from the same USB, but thats going to be over complicated
[16:23] <vlt> Hello. Why can root read (and even write to) a file that has 000 permissions?
[16:23] <ikonia> vlt: because it's root with a uid 0 which is speciali
[16:24] <ikonia> special
[16:24] <__gengar__> vlt because it does wha tit wants
[16:24] <Guest92347> root user is god
[16:24] <vlt> Ok, got it :-D
[16:24] <ducasse> vlt: great :)
[16:24] <mikubuntu> ikonia: ls -la /var/lib/sudo
[16:24] <vinnie92> I'm trying to install formware-atheros package but I can't find it throught apt-get
[16:24] <FromAscalon> So. In chromium stuff works like remembering logins to sites and such. But in chrome it resets with every computer restart. Any clue why?
[16:24] <Guest92347> try rm -rf /
[16:24] <mikubuntu> ikonia: marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$ ls -la /var/lib/sudo ls: cannot open directory /var/lib/sudo: Permission denied
[16:25] <vinnie92> I'm trying to do this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/443842/installing-tp-link-tl-wdn4800-adapter-with-ath9k
[16:25] <ikonia> mikubuntu: sudo l s-la /var/lib/sudo
[16:25] <__gengar__> lol
[16:26] <mikubuntu> ikonia: sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/marybuntu/0: No such file or directory sudo: l: command not found
[16:26] <ikonia> mikubuntu: I think you made a typo "sudo ls -la /var/lib/sudo"
[16:27] <Guest92347> anybody who knows GreatFireWall?
[16:27] <stefan__> Hi
[16:27] <ikonia> Guest92347: depends if you're going to do more silly and problematic things like "try rm -rf /"
[16:27] <mikubuntu> ikonia: sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/marybuntu/0: No such file or directory total 12 drwx------  3 root root      4096 Jan 30  2016 . drwxr-xr-x 62 root root      4096 Sep 27 02:48 .. drwx------  2 root marybuntu 4096 Oct 23 09:18 marybuntu
[16:28] <ikonia> Guest92347: before any more discussion I'd like you to read the channels guidelines and rules in the topic (the links are in the topic)
[16:28] <ioria> it's a read only fs, i think
[16:28] <ikonia> ioria: ahhh, interesting thought, not considered that
[16:28] <ioria> not sure
[16:28] <ikonia> ioria: no, it's a good suggestion
[16:28] <ikonia> as it was working before
[16:28] <ikonia> so something has changed
[16:29] <ikonia> mikubuntu: can you do touch /var/lib/test
[16:29] <ioria> maybe some issue with the target
[16:29] <ikonia> ioria: don't think it's the target, if you look at that error, it's /var/lib it's complaining about
[16:29] <ioria> oh
[16:30] <Sircle> can anyone refer multiseatx official guide for kubuntu 16.04.1 LTS?
[16:30] <ikonia> refer it ?
[16:31] <Guest92347> how to install and config openvpn client on ubuntu?
[16:31] <ikonia> there is a version in the repo, there is a version built into network manager, and there is the package provided from openvpn direct
[16:32] <ikonia> Guest92347: did you read the rules/links I asked you to ?
[16:33] <Guest92347> thank you I
[16:33] <mikubuntu> ikonia: marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$ touch /var/lib/test touch: cannot touch ‘/var/lib/test’: Read-only file system
[16:33] <ikonia> mikubuntu: there we go
[16:33] <ikonia> ioria: 10 points, great spot
[16:33] <ikonia> mikubuntu: lets do a reboot,
[16:33] <ioria> :þ
[16:34] <mikubuntu> ikonia: reboot machine?
[16:34] <ikonia> mikubuntu: yup, unless you have a reason not to
[16:34] <mikubuntu> ikonia: just hope i make it back here .. lol
[16:34] <mikubuntu> ikonia: brb *i think*
[16:39] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: i'm baaaaaaack
[16:40] <Sircle> what is the display manager of kubuntu 16 LTS?
[16:40] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: why does freenode say i quit
[16:41] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: because you did
[16:41] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: you rebooted your host which quits freenode
[16:41] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: oh because of reboot?
[16:41] <mikubuntu_> got it
[16:42] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: ok capitan. standing by for orders.
[16:44] <bencevans> Please can anyone give a pointer as to why my machine isn't booting? https://postimg.org/image/z1wied661/
[16:46] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: repeat the test earlier
[16:46] <Sircle> I guess no pakcage / app for multi seat eatehr
[16:46] <Sircle> either*
[16:49] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: i lost the command because of reboot
[16:50] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: lets just try a simple test first "sudo ls -la /var/lib"
[16:51] <vlt> Holy cow! I just found out that the dirty cow vulnerability also applies to files on read-only mounted file systems!
[16:51] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: hope this is good news -- http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23370576/
[16:52] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: ok, so "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"
[16:52] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: "sudo cp -Rp /home /mnt"
[16:55] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: still no prompt showing after this output: cp: error reading ‘/home/marybuntu/.config/google-chrome/Safe Browsing Download’: Input/output error cp: failed to extend ‘/mnt/home/marybuntu/.config/google-chrome/Safe Browsing Download’: Input/output error
[16:56] <ikonia> let it run
[16:57] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: you mean me let it run?
[16:57] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: has it returned a prompt yet
[16:57] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: nope -- it whirs on and off but mostly silent, and no prompt
[16:58] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: then it's stil working, so let it run
[16:58] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: populating various errors as it runs
[16:58] <ikonia> such as ?
[16:59] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: brb
[17:02] <LostSoul> In case you are interested
[17:02] <LostSoul> Promiscuous mode was not turned on...
[17:04] <filovitch> elp
[17:05] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: still no prompt
[17:06] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23370642/
[17:11] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: still no more output, still no prompt -- http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23370642/
[17:13] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: thats ok - it's just your chome cache and stuff
[17:13] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: let it run, it will take a while
[17:13] <ikonia> I have to go for a run now, should be 35 minutes,
[17:14] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: so it's just copying to usb?
[17:17] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: sure seems like a long time to copy, huh
[17:18] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: but it is at least 2 years of files
[17:18] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: not that much gigs tho -- between 3 and 4 maybe
[17:19] <mure_> is xubuntu more demanding on battery than other ubuntu based distros?
[17:20] <mure_> version 16
[17:20] <mure_> also I'm not able to start gvim for some reason
[17:22] <Jordan_U> mure_: It shouldn't be, but it's always possible that you're hitting a particular bug. For example, if some infinite loop bug is eating CPU that would certainly use more power, as could something more subtle like a process triggereing just often enough to not allow the CPU or other components to go into deeper sleep states.
[17:22] <Jordan_U> mure_: What happens when you try to start gvim?
[17:22] <mure_> noting
[17:22] <mure_> nothing*
[17:22] <streulma> what is a good photo manager in Ubuntu like iPhoto in OSX? Shotwell?
[17:23] <mure_> also I know that certain apps/code can make your battery go dry but I just want to pick the lightest version of ubuntu because I care a lot about battery life
[17:23] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: starting to get worried, could it really take this long?
[17:24] <YY_Bozhinsky> Понятно.
[17:24] <YY_Bozhinsky> Sorry, ppl!
[17:25] <ioria> mure_, from terminal ?
[17:25] <mure_> I ran it from my app launcher
[17:26] <mure_> also I tried vim-gtk
[17:26] <ioria> mure_, try from terminal
[17:27] <mure_> it works
[17:28] <ioria> mure_,  app icon issue then , look in /usr/share/applications/vim-* .desktop  or similar
[17:39] <EmranEb> HI every one!
[17:40] <inra> hello everyone, how can I find out the extension of a video that I'd like to download from a website?
[17:40] <codfection> how to use itunes in ubuntu
[17:40] <codfection> I use iphone
[17:41] <Jordan_U> inra: I don't understand the question. Could you rephrase it? An example video (if it's appropriate) might help explain what you're trying to do.
[17:41] <Swierczewski_> hi i'm currently trying to get ubuntu running on a Lenovo Ideapad Miix 310 10 ICR, and im having problems with wifi, sound, screentilt and turning it on/off
[17:41] <codfection> Swierczewski_: what kernel?
[17:42] <Swierczewski_> i'm kind of a noob to this but it is ubuntu 16.04
[17:42] <EmranEb> whos speak Persian/Farsi ?
[17:43] <EmranEb> سلام کسی اینجا فارسی بلده‌؟
[17:43] <EmranEb> :)
[17:43] <codfection> :)
[17:43] <codfection> !topic
[17:43] <Hydrogrow> you're not a channel operator after I type /topic
[17:44] <inra> Jordan_U, there is some footage that I'd like to download.
[17:44] <Hydrogrow> Hello ! how are you today
[17:44] <EmranEb> enyone ?
[17:45] <Hydrogrow> Hello/
[17:45] <EmranEb> anyone Iranain ?
[17:45] <Hydrogrow> no I don't speak that sorry
[17:45] <EmranEb> dont be
[17:45] <EmranEb> im new here
[17:46] <EmranEb> just boot it
[17:46] <EmranEb> !!!!!
[17:46] <Jordan_U> inra: OK. How are you trying to download it? Where are you trying to download it from? What problem are you running into?
[17:47] <inra> Jordan_U, I am trying to download it via wget, and I need to define the file extension to be downloaded. I try to download it from some video host.
[17:47] <inra> the problem is I dont know where to find this extension
[17:47] <inra> I tried ctrl+u but couldnt see it
[17:48] <Jordan_U> inra: How are you figuring out every part of the URL other than the extension?
[17:49] <inra> Jordan_U, from the address bar
[17:49] <inra> so that's the page location, not the file
[17:49] <Jordan_U> inra: How do you know that just appending a file extension to that will get you the video?
[17:50] <inra> Jordan_U, I don't. I have minimal experience with wget so far. I wanted to try it
[17:50] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: wow -- command prompt
[17:50] <inra> the command had worked with text
[17:51] <Jordan_U> inra: If it would work with wget then it would work simply entering the same address into the browser.
[17:51] <Jordan_U> inra: Try "youtube-dl URL_OF_PAGE" .
[17:51] <parlas> Can someone help me understand my partitions? I am looking at gparted...I have Xubuntu installed and am using it now...also have Elementary installed. Not sure what is what and want to remove elementary.
[17:52] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | parlas
[17:52] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: appears to have loaded everything on stick --- thx soooOOO000OOOooo much
[17:52] <mikubuntu_> hiya Jordan_U
[17:52] <inra> Jordan_U, installing youtube-dl first :)
[17:52] <parlas> I don't have a boot problem really...it boots fine. I am just trying to understand the partitioning as I am noobish.
[17:53] <parlas> Do I still need to run the bootinfo command?
[17:54] <inra> Jordan_U, youtube-dl returns unsupported url error
[17:55] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: is there any way to check compatibility of my machine with lubuntu 16.04 -- i seem to remember some issue two years ago where i installed and then had no screen. i think tj or Jordan_U bailed me out but it was a real pain
[17:56] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: i guess what i'm saying is i'm askeered.
[17:56] <parlas> This is what I see in gparted
[17:56] <parlas> Oops sorry....http://i.imgur.com/IiFG1Cy.png
[17:56] <ioria> inra, in my exp, it really depends on that page and how the video has been embedded
[17:57] <parlas> Is sda1 The Elementary install since it was the first?
[17:57] <snkcld> i was in the process of moving a filesystem from one location to another, but ran out of space. so i i had to control-c, delete some stuff, but now i want to resume
[17:57] <snkcld> how do i do a mv, and have it continue where it left off?
[17:57] <snkcld> would i just rerun the same command?
[17:58] <Swierczewski_> i sent a friend my bootlog and he says that the startup problem is with the sound and graphics card but it's a bit beyond him
[18:00] <Dinosaurio> Has anybody tried canonical's kernel live patching?
[18:01] <parlas> How do I determine what partition is what? http://i.imgur.com/IiFG1Cy.png
[18:01] <parlas> I have Xubuntu and Elementary installed...Elementary was first and I never use it.
[18:02] <EriC^^> parlas: it looks like xubuntu
[18:02] <EriC^^> it says its mounted at "/" are you in the xubuntu install?
[18:02] <inra> ok, I think it is mvi format
[18:02] <ioria> parlas, maybe sudo os-prober     can tell you
[18:02] <parlas> Eirc yes I am in Xubuntu
[18:02] <inra> how can I download a video of mvi format from a web page?
[18:02] <parlas> does that mean sda6 is Xubuntu?
[18:03] <EriC^^> parlas: yeah
[18:03] <aot> hi, how could i make sure my perl program is kept running "on the backgorund" in ubuntu?
[18:03] <aot> even after crashed it would be started automatically
[18:03] <parlas> Eric so what is sda2? Why would Xubuntu be under it?
[18:04] <EriC^^> parlas: sda2 is an extended partition, it's like a container for other partitions
[18:04] <ioria> parlas, it's an extended, your disk has 2 partitions: 1 primary, 1 logical
[18:04] <parlas> ioria: it only output sda1 as Elementary but none of the other partitions. Is there a different command to see all partitions?
[18:04] <parlas> ioria: I don't know the difference. I jsut chose default installer settings.
[18:04] <Jordan_U> inra: It depends on how that site decides to organize their content. There is no universal answer. There's not even really even a set of common patterns.
[18:05] <ioria> parlas, sudo parted -l   but it does not say you about OS installed
[18:05] <EriC^^> parlas: sudo parted -l
[18:05] <parlas> Yeah parted l just repeated what the gparted screenshot says
[18:05] <parlas> parted -l sorry
[18:05] <EriC^^> parlas: what partitions do you mean?
[18:05] <ioria> parlas, well, it's good because (if you use msdos PT) you can make anothe 2 partitions
[18:05] <uebera||> Dinosaurio: I installed it, but it seems like they still need to implement a feature or two: https://twitter.com/m_ueberall/status/789782350729252865
[18:05] <Jordan_U> parlas: Please run Boot Info Scrip which will clearly tell you what OS is on each partition.
[18:06] <parlas> http://i.imgur.com/IiFG1Cy.png shows my drive..."parted -l" just put this in terminal....no more info
[18:06] <ioria> parlas, ^ Jordan_U
[18:06] <parlas> How do I remove Elementary and have Xubuntu as primary install without ruining things?
[18:06] <Dinosaurio> uebera||: Heh, ty
[18:06] <parlas> ok looking at how to run that script...not good at this
[18:08] <EriC^^> parlas: why do you think there are other partitions?
[18:08] <EriC^^> how big is the disk?
[18:09] <parlas> 250gb...I think there are other partitions because I can see them on gparted
[18:09] <EriC^^> the boot info script is a little redundant right now
[18:09] <EriC^^> parlas: gparted shows 3, sda1 and sda6 and swap
[18:09] <parlas> cant seem to run bootinfo...it says "command not found" when I follow the directions above
[18:10] <parlas> I downloaded it and extracted into Downloads as per instructions
[18:10] <EriC^^> what are the partitions for?
[18:10] <parlas> ok didn't see you say it was redundant...sorry
[18:11] <parlas> EriC^^: I installed Elemetary...default settings. I then installed Xubuntu...default settings. I didn't manually create any partitions
[18:11] <parlas> all is as the installers made it default
[18:11] <mikubuntu_> why would a brand new lexar usb be showing 4 mb used?
[18:11] <EriC^^> parlas: ok, so what are the partitions you are referring to?
[18:11] <budz> hey guys I am totally new to linux and ubuntu. I was planning to install 16.04 a while ago but I kept putting it off and now I am seeing 16.10 is up. i thought the new version comes out every 2 years?
[18:11] <parlas> http://i.imgur.com/IiFG1Cy.png
[18:12] <mikubuntu_> and when i first put it in the box -- i got an error saying read-only something
[18:12] <mikubuntu_> that's never happened before with a new stick
[18:12] <lordcirth_> budz, releases come out every 6 mo, every 2 years is a Long Term Support release.
[18:12] <BluesKaj> budz, you're thinking of LTS
[18:12] <EriC^^> parlas: those are sda1 elementary, sda2 the extended partition that contains sda6 xubuntu and sda5 swap
[18:12] <BluesKaj> !LTS
[18:13] <budz> lordcirth_: so do i now download and install 16.10? i had 16.04 loaded on a flash drive already
[18:13] <parlas> EriC^^: so why is Elementary all its own in sda1 but Xubuntu is nested under sda 2 along with swap?
[18:13] <budz> BluesKaj: so should i now use 16.10?
[18:13] <parlas> is that just how the installer chose or is there some reason?
[18:13] <ikonia> parlas: show us your partition table please
[18:13] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: hows it going now ?
[18:14] <lordcirth_> budz, up to you.  Do you want the latest all the time, updating every 6mo, or do you want to install and leave it alone for 4 years?
[18:14] <parlas> ikonia how? I have this http://i.imgur.com/IiFG1Cy.png
[18:14] <parlas> i didnt consciously choose this arrangement...it was installer defaults
[18:14] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: all data saved on the stick, now i have a new stick trying to get the .iso on it, but when i first plugged it in it said read-only
[18:14] <budz> lordcirth_: i would prefer to have the latest all the time. but since i am a beginner would you suggest 16.04?
[18:14] <EriC^^> parlas: elementary is on a primary partition, there always has to be 1 primary partition, (you can have 4 in total) then the installer created an extended one and put xubuntu and swap in it
[18:15] <BluesKaj> budz, there' isn't alot of difference between 16.04 and 16.10 yet ...16.04 being LTS is more stable atm ...try it out for a while and then decide
[18:15] <budz> lordcirth_: i also don't understand the difference entirely. what is different if i update every 6 months compared to every two years?
[18:15] <ioria> parlas, it's not bad, the bad is that now you want get rid of Elementary ... :þ
[18:15] <budz> BluesKaj: okay so as a beginner is it better to install 16.04?
[18:15] <EriC^^> parlas: extended is a sort of trick to get more partitions on the hdd, you can have 4 primaries or 3 primaries (or at least 1), and extended that contains many partitions
[18:15] <aot> is systemd default option in 14.04 and 12.04?
[18:15] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: i just 'cleaned' it with gparted, and need to know what kind of partition to set up for the .iso, and ONE question, is this .iso able to run live? (lub 16.04 64bit)?
[18:16] <lordcirth_> budz, well, the whole point of LTS is that you can install it, and just leave it with only minor updates, so nothing really changes.  for example companies almost always run LTS.
[18:16] <parlas> So since I want to reclaim sda1 (elementary) space and use only Xubuntu can I do this without reinstalling?
[18:16] <parlas> since elementary is the primary partitions?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> budz, yes, that's my opinion, others may differ  :-)
[18:17] <EriC^^> parlas: yeah you can delete lubuntu and move xubuntu to the start and extend it
[18:17] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: i'm a little nervous about doing the install. the reason i hadn't done any updates to this box in so long is that when i did updates several months ago to my other laptop, it bricked, and i haven't had time to work on it (oh, ya -- that's coming after election day)
[18:17] <parlas> lubuntu?
[18:17] <EriC^^> parlas: sorry i meant elementary
[18:17] <EriC^^> :D
[18:17] <budz> lordcirth_: okay i see. so i should probably just 16.04. but just to be clear, there will be 17.04, 17.10, and then 18.04 will be the next LTS?
[18:17] <parlas> How do I do that? And what risk for me to break everything?
[18:17] <lordcirth_> budz, yeah
[18:18] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: so i'm really really nervous about it. don't have another functioning pc at all.
[18:18] <budz> thanks BluesKaj lordcirth_
[18:18] <EriC^^> parlas: there's always a risk, how you do it is delete the elementary one first then try to move xubuntu (right click on it and choose move) and put the start of the disk
[18:18] <parlas> ioria: you said it's a problem to remove Elementary...what is problem?
[18:19] <BluesKaj> budz, enjoy linux and ubuntru -)
[18:19] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: do i need to format at all to put the .iso on the new stick?
[18:19] <parlas> EriC^^: But deleting sda1 means deleting primary partition right? does sda2 somehow become primary automatically?
[18:19] <EriC^^> parlas: yeah that's true, i have no idea how gparted would handle that stuff, maybe if you move it it will fix stuff
[18:19] <ioria> parlas,  it can be done, though
[18:20] <EriC^^> if you just delete it and save it might say it can't be done i guess
[18:20] <parlas> I am not smart enough with linux to trust "maybe"
[18:20] <aot> how can i find out what "init system" there is in my ubuntu 14.04?
[18:20] <parlas> I need a sure way
[18:20] <Jordan_U> aot: It's upstart by default. Do you have reason to expect anything else?
[18:20] <EriC^^> parlas: no problem, try to delete it, it won't actually delete anything yet, then choose to move xubuntu and see what happens
[18:20] <aot> Jordan_U: and how about 12.04?
[18:20] <EriC^^> parlas: really it's a matter of how smart gparted is
[18:20] <Jordan_U> aot: Same.
[18:21] <parlas> EriC^^: this feels it can bork entire disk...no?
[18:21] <EriC^^> you could do the whole thing manually if you wanted, as ioria said it is technically doable
[18:21] <parlas> if it doesnt work
[18:21] <EriC^^> parlas: back up your stuff
[18:21] <ioria> parlas,  oh, yeah Backup
[18:21] <parlas> I have data backed up but don't have means right now to back up system
[18:21] <parlas> id rather not destroy xubuntu install
[18:21] <parlas> if its a real risk I will just not do it
[18:22] <EriC^^> parlas: you could use the elementary partition on xubuntu as a mountpoint for media and other stuff if you wanted
[18:22] <ioria> parlas,  someone uses Testdisk
[18:22] <aot> Jordan_U: ok, thanks, i just have few esrvers at work and i need to set up a 24/7 running service for them (needs to be started autom. after crash), bun in upstart there should be this kind of feature. btw doesn't it mean that it's not upstart if there is path /etc/init.d/ ..
[18:22] <EriC^^> it's always a risk to play with partition stuff and backups are obviously needed
[18:23] <ioria> parlas, and flips L tp P
[18:23] <ioria> *to
[18:23] <EriC^^> ioria: aha
[18:23] <ioria> ^_^
[18:23] <EriC^^> so use testdisk to convert, then gparted to delete elementary and move it back
[18:23] <Jordan_U> aot: No, upstart still has compatability with sysv style scripts, and in fact many (most?) services weren't ever actually updated to be native upstart services.
[18:24] <ioria> too messy for me
[18:24] <parlas> how do I use testdisk?
[18:24] <SchrodingersScat> !man
[18:24] <ioria> pass
[18:24] <EriC^^> parlas: testdisk can't actually move anything
[18:24] <EriC^^> ioria: lol
[18:24] <EriC^^> you started this
[18:24] <EriC^^> :P
[18:24] <ioria> sorry
[18:24] <aot> i thought sysv was still in use at least in 12.04
[18:25] <parlas> so nobody can say for sure how to do it for a noob then? its all "maybe" and comlicated messy risks?
[18:25] <EriC^^> parlas: anything with partitions is risky, we can't really guarantee anything
[18:26] <EriC^^> if you want an easy solution without messing anything up, use elementary as a mountpoint and when you have your backup at hand try to use gparted to see how it would go
[18:26] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: you don't setup a partition for the ISO
[18:26] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: it's a block level copy you need
[18:27] <parlas> how do I use elementary as a mountpoint? does that mean boot into it?
[18:27] <ikonia> parlas: what are you trying to do
[18:27] <Jordan_U> aot: Ubuntu switched to upstart in 9.10.
[18:27] <pezdispenser> Hi i've struggled to find an application that lets me steam webcam to multiple sources,  like manycam would allow running in windows or mac,   does anyone know how to do this ?
[18:28] <parlas> ikonia: I am trying to remove Elementary OS which is installed in sda1 here: http://i.imgur.com/IiFG1Cy.png and have sda6 Xubuntu install as primary...or maybe it should be sda2 as primary since sda6 is under it?
[18:29] <aot> Jordan_U: do you see it's hard to set up a service (perl script)that is autostarted after crash?
[18:29] <parlas> so I can get that sda1 space back since I dont use Elementary
[18:29] <ikonia> parlas: ok - so sda6 is your ubuntu drive - this is what you want
[18:29] <EriC^^> pezdispenser: obs project maybe?
[18:29] <ikonia> parlas: the first thing you need to make sure is that ubuntu is the OS that controls grub
[18:29] <ikonia> parlas: so re-apply grub to the MBR from ubuntu
[18:29] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: not sure i know what you mean -- so i just try to load the .iso right to the clean stick?
[18:29] <pezdispenser> EriC^^:  couldn't figure that out, seems outdated etc
[18:29] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: you have a clean stick yes ?
[18:30] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: right now it just says 'unallocated' in gparted
[18:30] <pezdispenser> you would think this would be something you can do easily enough on linux
[18:30] <EriC^^> ikonia: maybe at the end? they want to move xubuntu to be the first partition on the disk
[18:30] <ikonia> EriC^^: maybe, he didn't say that so I can only assume
[18:30] <parlas> I dont know how to do that
[18:30] <EriC^^> ikonia: they want to make xubuntu the only os
[18:30] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: ok so "sudo dd if=path/to/the/iso/image of=/dev/sdb"
[18:31] <EriC^^> ikonia: also they dont have backups at hand and want risk-free
[18:31] <parlas> I just want to get rid of Elementary and only use Xubunutu...but Elementary is the primary partition
[18:31] <ikonia> EriC^^: right, so they can only do that once grub is under ubuntu control
[18:31] <parlas> I DO have data backups...not settings/system backup
[18:31] <ikonia> parlas: the primary partition doesn't matter, once you have ubuntu controlling grub, you can delete the other partition
[18:31] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: i wouldn't know how to describe the path
[18:31] <parlas> so id rather not risk destruction if not required
[18:31] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: where is the iso
[18:31] <EriC^^> parlas: you said you couldn't have xubuntu getting messed up right now..
[18:32] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: downloads i think lemme look again
[18:32] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: /home/marybuntu/Downloads
[18:32] <parlas> Ikonia it autoboots into Xubuntu...so that means ubuntu is in control right?
[18:33] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: ok so if=home/marybuntu/downloads/name-of-iso.iso
[18:33] <ikonia> parlas: no
[18:33] <EriC^^> ikonia: yeah my point was that maybe leave that til the end, i thought they're in a live usb but they're in the actual install
[18:33] <parlas> so I need to reboot and when grub screen comes up change something?
[18:33] <ikonia> EriC^^: lack of clear info
[18:33] <ikonia> parlas: no,
[18:33] <EriC^^> parlas: type sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda && sudo update-grub
[18:34] <EriC^^> parlas: you can't actually do anything from the xubuntu session, you need a live usb to move the partition and whatnot
[18:35] <parlas> EriC^^: http://i.imgur.com/Zfor3nM.png
[18:36] <EriC^^> parlas: ok, do you have a live usb?
[18:36] <parlas> have but not with me atm
[18:36] <mikubuntu_> ikonia:      so ..   sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso .. ?
[18:36] <parlas> so I need to boot to live usb and then what?
[18:37] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: come on - pay attention, I gave you the exact command
[18:37] <mikubuntu_> sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:37] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: where is the of section I gave you
[18:38] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: i don't know if i'm describing it right :: sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:38] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: is that the entire command to copy it?
[18:38] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: where is the "of" section I told you earlier
[18:38] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: no
[18:38] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: you're not paying attention to detail
[18:38] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: where is the first command I gave you
[18:40] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: i don't know if i'm describing it right :: sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso/image of=/dev/sdb ?
[18:40] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: why /image ?
[18:40] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: where has that come from ?
[18:40] <EriC^^> parlas: i already explained about gparted and stuff
[18:41] <mikubuntu_> from what you gave me :: sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso/image of=/dev/sdb
[18:41] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: I didn't give you anything with /image
[18:41] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: look back, i think you did .. lol
[18:41] <ioria> EriC^^, can he dd his xubuntu on /dev/sda1  and reinstall grub after ?
[18:41] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: no, I didn't
[18:41] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: you want the path to the iso file
[18:43] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: clearly i have a comprehension problem with these pathways and commands, should i just use the startup disk creator?
[18:43] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: no
[18:44] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: so what part of it did i get wrong? sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso/image of=/dev/sdb
[18:44] <VN7> anyone can give me some advice on deleting footer in libreoffice?
[18:44] <EriC^^> ioria: i guess so, people usually say it's a bad idea to dd a running session though
[18:44] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: you need the path to the iso file
[18:44] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: the iso file has no /image on the end
[18:45] <ioria> EriC^^, right, no livecd at hand
[18:45] <parlas> If I just backup my home directory it will save all settings for apps I have installed but not those apps right?
[18:45] <EriC^^> ioria: yeah, it's still a good idea though
[18:46] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso/ of=/dev/sdb ??
[18:46] <EriC^^> maybe just rsync the stuff over though so it doesn't take too long
[18:46] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: no /
[18:46] <ioria> yeah
[18:46] <EriC^^> then chroot from current session and done
[18:46] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb ??
[18:47] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: better
[18:47] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: but is it best?
[18:47] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: its correct
[18:47] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: i know it has to be perfect
[18:47] <mikubuntu_> lol
[18:47] <transhuman_> ok, so I have a question, where does one configure a global secondary eth0 ip address? For me this address shows up with  sudo ip addr
[18:47] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: so that's the whole copy process?
[18:48] <ikonia> transhuman_: that would be in the interfaces files normally or the interfaces.d directory
[18:48] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: yes
[18:48] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: ok i try
[18:48] <ikonia> transhuman_: however network manager can also have an impact
[18:48] <transhuman_> interfaces.d directory ok...let me look for that folder
[18:48] <transhuman_> network manager isnt installed
[18:48] <ikonia> transhuman_: is this still the same problem from yesterday ?
[18:48] <EriC^^> parlas: honestly i'd just make it a extra mountpoint and call it a day until you have a live usb
[18:48] <transhuman_> yes
[18:49] <EriC^^> parlas: and yeah about your home dir
[18:49] <parlas> EriC^^: I will deal with that part later. I sm trying to figure out backups now
[18:49] <parlas> If I backup /home it takes with it settings but not apps right?
[18:49] <EriC^^> parlas: just backup your home dir and maybe the apps list
[18:49] <EriC^^> so you dont have to reinstall them one by one or guess what you had
[18:50] <parlas> where is apps list?
[18:50] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23371171/
[18:50] <EriC^^> parlas: this gets a pretty short list "comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)"
[18:51] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: your file system has gone read only again
[18:51] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: I'd suggest your hard disk is possibly failing
[18:51] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: you feel me?
[18:51] <mikubuntu_> lol
[18:51] <parlas> EriC^^:  so how do I use that list to reinstall? or its just a manual list?
[18:51] <EriC^^> parlas: just run it and put > ~/installedpackages at the end so it saves the list there
[18:51] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: but WHY does it keep doing that
[18:51] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: I'd suggest your hard disk is possibly failing
[18:52] <EriC^^> to reinstall you do xargs -a ~/installedpackages sudo apt-get -y install
[18:52] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: well that's not very good news
[18:52] <EriC^^> i think that works, when you have the list it's no problem you can figure it out later
[18:53] <mikubuntu_> i just need it to work at least another two weeks, then i can deal with the hd if thats the problem
[18:53] <onixion> hi
[18:53] <parlas> can I just copy and paste home folder to USB drive to backup or it has to be imaged or something?
[18:54] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: it's been running 24/7 for months
[18:54] <EriC^^> parlas: yeah you can copy it over, it'll lose the permissions if you have special ones you've set
[18:54] <EriC^^> if you copy it to a ntfs or fat etc.
[18:54] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: so is there a path forward?
[18:55] <parlas> so what is best way to back things up?
[18:55] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: reboot? hammer?
[18:55] <parlas> I have data just copied to HDD....but how to best backup system?
[18:55] <EriC^^> parlas: if you dont have any special permissions then copy them to a usb
[18:59] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: are you wore out with me
[19:01] <mikubuntu_> is there a way to call up and condense dialogue that i'm tagged in
[19:02] <mikubuntu_> to save help sessions
[19:02] <bazhang> mikubuntu_, from irc?
[19:02] <mikubuntu_> bazhang: yes
[19:03] <lordcirth_> Someone showed me something like that but I can't remember it
[19:03] <mikubuntu_> bazhang: from these sessions here
[19:03] <bazhang> !1984 | mikubuntu_
[19:03] <bazhang> use the find feature on your browser mikubuntu_
[19:03] <lordcirth_> Yeah, you can look through the logs for your name
[19:03] <mikubuntu_> bazhang: but i dont' want the whole logs, just sections that i experienced
[19:04] <lordcirth_> Someone showed me an IRC command that printed everything with my name in it..
[19:04] <mikubuntu_> need a script for that, from one of you smart whippersnaps
[19:05] <bazhang> check the html version mikubuntu_ and use the find feature with your nick
[19:05] <mikubuntu_> right now, i guess ikonia is on well deserved break, but i have to figure out how to copy this .iso to stick, and the box has gone read-only on me
[19:06] <bazhang> mikubuntu_, please ask the channel and not for just one individual
[19:07] <ioria> mikubuntu_, curl https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/10/22/%23ubuntu.txt > ciccio && grep mynick ciccio    change the day
[19:08] <mikubuntu_> i am asking the channel .. lol. all these guys have been helping me since about 9 this morning, and it's 3pm already.
[19:09] <ioria> mikubuntu_, curl https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/10/23/%23ubuntu.txt > ciccio && grep mikubuntu_  ciccio
[19:09] <mikubuntu_> ioria: thx but it's greek to me
[19:09] <ioria> mikubuntu_,  just run it in terminal
[19:10] <mikubuntu_> ioria: starting with "curl ... ?
[19:10] <ioria> mikubuntu_,  yep
[19:10] <transhuman_> well looks like my /etc/network/interfaces.d is empty as well
[19:12] <ioria> mikubuntu_,  remember  that you were using mikubuntu and not mikubuntu_    so use mikubuntu
[19:12] <ioria> mikubuntu_, curl https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/10/23/%23ubuntu.txt > ciccio && grep mikubuntu  ciccio
[19:13] <lost1nfound> hey guys, im having problems with 16.04's new _apt user for dropping apt-get privileges. i use certificate auth with a private apt repo, and i keep getting "error reading X.509 key or certificate file: Error while reading file."
[19:13] <mikubuntu_> its not working getting error: marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$ curl https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/10/23/%23ubuntu.txt > ciccio && grep mikubuntu_  ciccio bash: ciccio: Read-only file system marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$
[19:13] <nysobuntu> hi there, is there no way to make use of my AMD 8870M in my Samsung Notebook? Cause "Additional Drivers" doesn't show anything
[19:13] <lost1nfound> so, i added an ssl-cert group and made _apt the only member of it, and gave group ownership of all of /etc/ssl to _apt. but that still didnt help
[19:13] <ioria> mikubuntu_, it's not working for another reason, i'am afraid
[19:14] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: just reboot your box again
[19:14] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: just be aware it's possible your hard disk is failing
[19:14] <nysobuntu> ahh ubuntu 16.10
[19:14] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: ok
[19:20] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: i'm going to lose the whole command again when i reboot ... argh
[19:20] <yao_ziyuan> in ubuntu 16.10, when i remove files from a mobile hard disk in nautilus, the removed files won't show up in the Trash can.
[19:20] <lordcirth_> yao_ziyuan, removeable drives don't use the Trash, I think.
[19:20] <yao_ziyuan> so i resort to dolphin, but dolphin lacks icons for files and folders. which package will install kde icons?
[19:21] <yao_ziyuan> lordcirth_: they used to in previous ubuntu versions.
[19:21] <snkcld> is it possibel to resize a corestorage volume with gparted?
[19:22] <yao_ziyuan> it seems dolphin would store files from a mobile hard disk in Trash (of course, KDE's Trash).
[19:23] <yao_ziyuan> maybe ubuntu 16.10's Nautilus is premature.
[19:23] <parlas> is there a channel for general linux?
[19:23] <SuperSeriousCat> ##linux
[19:24] <SuperSeriousCat> Well hidden
[19:24] <ioria> yao_ziyuan, look on your usb device if there is a  .Trash-1000 folder
[19:24] <yao_ziyuan> ioria: yes
[19:25] <ioria> yao_ziyuan, that should be your trash
[19:25] <yao_ziyuan> ioria: but how do i access it graphically?
[19:25] <parlas> I cant seem to speak on ##linux
[19:25] <ioria> yao_ziyuan,  make hidden visible ctrl +H
[19:25] <parlas> it says "cannot send"...does it require registration or something?
[19:25] <ioria> parlas, you need to register
[19:25] <parlas> ugh
[19:25] <ioria> !register
[19:25] <yao_ziyuan> ioria: but they won't show up in THE Trash, right?
[19:25] <master_gi> hi
[19:26] <parlas> not interested in registering anywhere.....figures
[19:26] <ioria> yao_ziyuan,  idk
[19:26] <ningu> if I want a couple commands to run at system startup, can I put them in /etc/rc.local?
[19:26] <ningu> this is a temporary debugging measure
[19:26] <ioria> parlas, registering on Freenode is GOOD !
[19:27] <parlas> i prefer anonymity and not having to give emails etc
[19:27] <ioria> ok
[19:27] <ikonia> then you pay the price for that and can't use the channel
[19:27] <parlas> right...why I said ugh
[19:28] <mikubuntu> ikonia: back, and going in for the kill
[19:28] <yao_ziyuan> what's the package that provides KDE system icons?
[19:28] <yao_ziyuan> i think i'd go with Dolphin for now.
[19:32] <mikubuntu> geeeeesh -- what now? :: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23371346/
[19:33] <lost1nfound> anyone know anything about getting ssl client auth working with apt-get in 16.04?
[19:33] <ioria> mikubuntu, your disk is gone
[19:34] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, 'dmesg | tail -n 30 ' to see the error better
[19:34] <lordcirth_> But probably your disk is dead, yeah
[19:35] <yao_ziyuan> what's a good file manager besides nautilus and dolphin?
[19:35] <daehee> hi
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> yao_ziyuan  find any filemanager in the softwarecenter, find out which suits your needs
[19:36] <lordcirth_> yao_ziyuan, thunar is nice.
[19:36] <ioria> yao_ziyuan,   you can try pcmanfm
[19:36] <mikubuntu> lordcirth_: lemme try
[19:37] <yao_ziyuan> users of ubuntu 16.10, when you remove a file from a mobile hard disk, does it show up in your Trash?
[19:37] <yao_ziyuan> if not, i think this is a serious regression.
[19:38] <mikubuntu> lordcirth_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23371381/
[19:38] <ioria> mikubuntu,  Remounting filesystem read-only
[19:38] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, "Unrecovered read error - auto reallocate failed" - drive's toast
[19:39] <ioria> mikubuntu, there is a reason why it remount ro, and for avoiding other damage
[19:39] <mikubuntu> ioria: lordcirth_ why does it work at all? how am i on here?
[19:40] <ioria> mikubuntu,  a philosophical question ?
[19:40] <mikubuntu> ioria: no, i mean like, why is the box working at all if the drive is fried?
[19:40] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, because drives frequently don't fail all at once. Get any data you need off of it, if you haven't already, then get a new one.
[19:41] <ioria> mikubuntu,  try to save a file
[19:41] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, enough of it is failed that it's causing problems.  The problems will get worse and then it won't boot anymore.  Backup first
[19:41] <mikubuntu> just did, was working on it all day long from 9a - 3p by the time we got it
[19:41] <ioria> mikubuntu,  but not now
[19:42] <rolontloss> Bash on windows = <3
[19:43] <Yiota> rolontloss yup
[19:43] <Yiota> just got the subsystem
[19:43] <rolontloss> I am using xming to output xserver with xchat
[19:43] <mikubuntu> ok i've got a 500 gb drive that i've used 3% of in 2 years -- would it make sense to get a much smaller solid state drive? does ssd play nice with lubuntu?
[19:43] <lordcirth_> Note that support for Ubuntu on Windows is not on-topic here.
[19:43] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, SSD's are amazing
[19:44] <lordcirth_> Double-check the model you're going to buy, but it should work fine.
[19:44] <rolontloss> gomen
[19:44] <rolontloss> Is there #ubuntu-chat?
[19:44] <mikubuntu> lordcirth_: i can't afford much, but i've seen smaller ones pretty cheap online -- would you trust them?
[19:44] <lordcirth_> rolontloss, #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:45] <ioria> mikubuntu,  ssd are very good , but not necessary
[19:45] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, look up reviews.  However, you should never trust any 1 drive to never fail.  Always have backups.
[19:45] <mikubuntu> yes of course that makes sense
[19:45] <ubuntu> tt
[19:46] <kastor> jooj?
[19:46] <mikubuntu> i wonder if i can keep this working long enough to get my other box running. it failed right after an update several months ago.
[19:46] <Guest45745> okk
[19:48] <ioria> mikubuntu,  nope, ext4 is very sensible (permis, etc.) maybe you can use that disk as ntfs store, but i'am against that
[19:49] <daehee> if im using linux 3.15 on ubuntu12.04, what happens if I update with 'distro update'?, does the kernel downgraded?
[19:55] <Mishari> Salam ubuntuers
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> daehee  try with -s     for simulate, see what happens
[20:05] <sarek> What are the numbers for '-rw-r--r--'?
[20:05] <sarek> 644?
[20:06] <lordcirth_> sarek, correct.
[20:06] <sarek> thanks
[20:06] <ouroumov_> sarek, yes
[20:06] <lordcirth_> 4 is read, write 2, exec 1
[20:09] <Theotop> hi all !
[20:10] <Theotop> somebodyu can help me install composer on ubuntu ?
[20:11] <SchrodingersScat> !info composer
[20:11] <lordcirth_> Theotop, composer for php?
[20:12] <Theotop> ye sfor php ;)
[20:12] <SchrodingersScat> sudo apt install composer
[20:13] <Theotop> no it's not working that way :)
[20:13] <Theotop> :)
[20:15] <SchrodingersScat> Theotop: would you like to elaborate?
[20:19] <Theotop> i'd like to tst laravel
[20:19] <SchrodingersScat> !info laravel
[20:24] <junaidnaseer2> has anyone ever tried connecting to some BBS from the PCManX software from Ubuntu?
[20:24] <Theotop> i've found a solution guys when moving the file to bin directory
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> !info pcmanx-gtk2
[20:33] <SchrodingersScat> Uptime: 102 days(!)  #htop added the (!), should I be concerned?
[20:33] <SchrodingersScat> or is htop really excited for me?
[20:33] <Spec> SchrodingersScat: you should be concerned
[20:34] <Spec> because it implies you are running a 102 day-old security-hole-ridden kernel and associated packages
[20:34] <SchrodingersScat> I may reboot then...
[20:34] <rocket__> hi
[20:34] <rocket__> i have a problem with ubuntu under virtual box
[20:34] <rocket__> in windows 10
[20:35] <rocket__> i can't install it
[20:35] <SchrodingersScat> Spec: I'll do a quick backup then risk it.
[20:35] <SchrodingersScat> rocket__: what seems to be the issue?
[20:35] <rocket__> hard to say it seems that virtual box is not working right
[20:35] <rocket__> last issue was a kernel panic
[20:36] <rocket__> other issues were that the installation has not finished
[20:36] <rocket__> it seems to be a problem with the virtual hard disk
[20:37] <lordcirth_> rocket__, has Virtualbox thrown any errors?
[20:37] <rocket__> no
[20:37] <SchrodingersScat> You went through the install wizard for the vhd? is your real hdd ok?
[20:37] <rocket__> the errors are in ubuntu
[20:38] <rocket__> yes no the hdd is ok
[20:38] <rocket__> its new
[20:38] <rocket__> i went through the wizard
[20:38] <lordcirth_> What version of Ubuntu and Vbox?
[20:38] <SchrodingersScat> what exactly does it mention about the disk?
[20:39] <rocket__> newest
[20:39] <rocket__> version
[20:39] <rocket__> i tried ubuntu and ubuntu
[20:39] <rocket__> xubnuntu
[20:39] <rocket__> xubuntu
[20:39] <rocket__> both are failing
[20:39] <lordcirth_> 16.10?
[20:39] <willpwr> lul
[20:39] <lordcirth_> Well yeah, they aren't that different
[20:39] <rocket__> yes
[20:40] <SchrodingersScat> rocket__: so you're mounting the iso as a livecd in virtualbox? are you sure the iso is good?
[20:40] <Gourlay> could someone explain why I must reboot to get my wifi and time to work?
[20:40] <rocket__> i have both iso files from the official sites
[20:41] <rocket__> i could try an older version
[20:41] <lordcirth_> rocket__, did you see any error messages?
[20:41] <rocket__> yes
[20:42] <SchrodingersScat> can you give us the full line if available? can use a pastebin site if it's multi line
[20:42] <SchrodingersScat> Spec: ok, rebooting, It's been a while, I'm scared, hold me?
[20:42] <rocket__> yes one moment
[20:43] <rocket__> https://www.google.at/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=kernel+panic+-+not+syncing+vfs+unable+to+mount+root+fs+on+unknown-block(0+0)&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=0yANWOaQO-Pa8AfVsqugAg
[20:43] <rocket__> kernel panic - not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0 0)
[20:43] <rocket__> sorry
[20:43] <rocket__> and one time it was installing
[20:43] <rocket__> and after install it only booted into grub
[20:44] <rocket__> terminal line
[20:44] <rocket__> pretty strange
[20:46] <Bray90820> tomreyn: You around?
[20:47] <Bray90820> It turned out my bios was the latest
[20:47] <rocket__> so any idea?
[20:49] <SchrodingersScat> Spec: it worked, htop is appeased for now.
[20:49] <Guest74860> how to configure google talk call on ubuntu
[20:50] <Bray90820> Guest74860: Google talk doesn't exist anymore it's been changed to hangouts
[20:50] <patadasAlHigado> anyone with 16.20? working well? I am thinking about updating it
[20:51] <Bray90820> patadasAlHigado: Did you mean 16.10
[20:51] <EriC^^> rocket__: did you checksum the isos
[20:51] <EriC^^> ?
[20:52] <rocket__> no
[20:52] <patadasAlHigado> yes, 16.10
[20:52] <EriC^^> did you use torrent
[20:52] <EriC^^> ?
[20:52] <rocket__> EriC^^: no
[20:52] <SchrodingersScat> patadasAlHigado: I haven't seen many complaints, I may upgrade today myself.
[20:52] <Bray90820> In my opinion it works much better than 16,04 unless your using it on a surface
[20:52] <rocket__> EriC^^: i used http download
[20:52] <Bray90820> patadasAlHigado:
[20:52] <EriC^^> !checksum | rocket__
[20:52] <SchrodingersScat> !backups | patadasAlHigado
[20:53] <mjjm> hi
[20:53] <obo_> Hello I have a question about boot.img (GRUB2)
[20:53] <obo_>  I am trying to find this binary on my system with dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr bs=512 skip=N
[20:53] <obo_> But no matter the value of N
[20:53] <obo_> the MD5 value differ
[20:54] <obo_> What I am doing wrong ?
[20:55] <EriC^^> obo_: for starters 512 is the whole mbr
[20:55] <EriC^^> including the partition table
[20:55] <mjjm> I look find french irc, how do I do?
[20:55] <SchrodingersScat> !fr | mjjm
[20:55] <EriC^^> mjjm: /join #ubuntu-fr
[20:56] <hfp> Hi, I'm struggling with NFS permissions... I have an export that belongs to nobody:nogroup. When I `sudo -u nobody touch foo` from the NFS server, i works fine. If i go on a client and `touch foo`, I have permission denied. I can however read files that belong to nobody:nogroup from the client. What am I missing? How to configure NFS properly to get id of non matching UID/GID?
[20:56] <rocket__> EriC^^: ok, i have downloaded 2 different iso
[20:56] <rocket__> xubuntu and ubuntu
[20:56] <obo_> EriC^^: but the boot.img is 512
[20:56] <SchrodingersScat> rocket__: and you checksumed them?
[20:56] <rocket__> don't think both of them are damaged
[20:56] <rocket__> no i didn't
[20:56] <mjjm> ok thank you I m trying
[20:56] <EriC^^> obo_: what's your end goal
[20:57] <obo_> Just understand GRUB
[20:57] <EriC^^> obo_: i'd read the arch wiki
[20:58] <rocket__> EriC^^: why should i checksum them i downloaded it from the official site
[20:58] <SchrodingersScat> to make certain that the download went smoothly
[20:59] <EriC^^> it's like checking you have fuel before starting to test other stuff in a car
[20:59] <EriC^^> just common sense
[21:00] <rocket__> ok but i don't think thats the issue
[21:00] <rocket__> rather its my pc
[21:00] <rocket__> and virtualization doesn't work right
[21:00] <rocket__> or its vbox
[21:00] <EriC^^> it's very easy to check..
[21:00] <rocket__> and windows 10
[21:00] <rocket__> which i suspect
[21:00] <rocket__> i will checksum it
[21:01] <SchrodingersScat> I run a xubuntu vm in win10, my hardware is pretty basic though
[21:01] <rocket__> i have some i5
[21:01] <EriC^^> rocket__: run a smart test for the hdd
[21:01] <rocket__> ok
[21:01] <rocket__> i think the hdd is ok
[21:01] <rocket__> i haven't had any problems so far
[21:02] <EriC^^> my money's on it's dying
[21:02] <rocket__> its 2 weeks old
[21:02] <Nirco> Hi! Can someone help me to install Ubunto in a Laptop with Nvidia GTX?
[21:02] <SchrodingersScat> not all hdd truly liv
[21:02] <EriC^^> lol
[21:02] <rocket__> EriC^^: its 2 weeks old and its an ssd
[21:02] <EriC^^> well really it's either a bad hdd or bad iso (almost certainly one of them)
[21:03] <rocket__> ok
[21:03] <SchrodingersScat> have you reseated the ram?
[21:03] <EriC^^> and i've seen that error many times with people who put a good iso on a bad usb
[21:04] <rocket__> no i haven't SchrodingersScat the whole computer is brand new
[21:04] <rocket__> about 2 weeks old
[21:05] <ELQEYNN> Hi everybody. I'm disenchanted with SuSE. I heard that there is good support given for ubuntu.
[21:05] <dishwasher> on irc?
[21:05] <ELQEYNN> on irc or other places
[21:06] <ELQEYNN> Does ubuntu use  GNOME-3 ?
[21:06] <dishwasher> yeah it's better than other distros
[21:06] <ELQEYNN> in what way is it better?
[21:06] <ELQEYNN> easier to use?
[21:06] <dishwasher> no, I mean the support
[21:06] <ppf> the distros are all the same
[21:06] <ppf> you can install gnome-3 on ubuntu
[21:07] <ELQEYNN> Where do you find the support?
[21:07] <ppf> here
[21:07] <SchrodingersScat> !gnome | ELQEYNN
[21:07] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu-gnome
[21:08] <ELQEYNN> I heard that there is a window manager called cinnamon, which is not most poular.
[21:08] <SchrodingersScat> !mate
[21:08] <neytiri> does anyone know why my gui crashes when i have both my graphcs cards enabled and running 2 monitors a peace (crashes at login)
[21:08] <SchrodingersScat> !cinnamon
[21:09] <ELQEYNN> What is cinnamon, then?
[21:09] <nicomachus> !bot abuse > SchrodingersScat
[21:10] <SchrodingersScat> that seemed relevant, but ok
[21:10] <lordcirth_> ELQEYNN, cinnamon is a DE similar to MATE, meant to succeed it.
[21:10] <nicomachus> :D
[21:10] <nicomachus> <3 you SchrodingersScat
[21:10] <SchrodingersScat> lordcirth_: how did that go? is cinnamon in the land of wind and ghosts?
[21:10] <dishwasher> isn't it the DE you get with Mint
[21:11] <dishwasher> they started it i think
[21:11] <ELQEYNN> Can you use the   software developed for the KDE project? or the GNOME project, with MATE or  cinnamon?
[21:11] <SchrodingersScat> nicomachus: :)
[21:11] <nicomachus> dishwasher: yes.
[21:11] <Ben64> ELQEYNN: yes
[21:11] <SchrodingersScat> oh, it's in repos
[21:11] <ELQEYNN> Is there a chess game for ubuntu?
[21:12] <Ben64> yes
[21:12] <ELQEYNN> What kind of email package is used for ubuntu?
[21:12] <nicomachus> !info dreamchess > ELQEYNN
[21:12] <Ben64> kind?
[21:12] <lordcirth_> ELQEYNN, whatever you like.  I think Evolution is default.
[21:13] <nicomachus> thunderbird, isn't it?
[21:13] <Ben64> theres web browsers, and standalone email clients
[21:13] <ELQEYNN> And the web browser?
[21:13] <tr1f3> anybody ever had problems connecting to efnet
[21:13] <lordcirth_> ELQEYNN, firefox by default, like most
[21:13] <ppf> !help > ppf
[21:14] <ppf> TIL
[21:14] <ELQEYNN> Is Opera available?
[21:14] <lordcirth_> ppf, if you're going to send to yourself, why not query?
[21:14] <nicomachus> I'm curious what he learned.
[21:14] <nicomachus> ELQEYNN: yes.
[21:14] <ppf> nicomachus: the > operator
[21:14] <nicomachus> ah
[21:14] <ppf> :)
[21:15] <nicomachus> yea it's useful for not clogging the channel with long factoids.
[21:15] <ppf> ya
[21:15] <nicomachus> even better is /msg ubottu !factoid
[21:15] <ppf> if i were to factoid myself, sure
[21:15] <ELQEYNN> Is the Opera browser available for ubuntu?
[21:15] <SchrodingersScat> ELQEYNN: yes
[21:15] <ppf> ELQEYNN: yes
[21:16] <ppf> though vivalde is more like the future (tm)
[21:16] <ELQEYNN> vivalde?
[21:16] <ppf> vivaldi
[21:16] <lordcirth_> Vivaldi seems nice, but no tree-style tabs yet :)
[21:16] <ELQEYNN> Is that another browser?
[21:16] <ELQEYNN> What about LibreOffice?
[21:17] <ELQEYNN> What kind of package management system?
[21:17] <ppf> ELQEYNN: you can get every software on ubuntu
[21:17] <ppf> and if you can't there's an equivalent
[21:17] <ppf> ubuntus package manager is apt
[21:17] <nicomachus> yea... idk about EVERY software. haha
[21:17] <dishwasher> lordcirth_: do you use a firefox extension for that?
[21:17] <nicomachus> but most. and a lot more that you CAN'T get on windows or mac.
[21:18] <Ben64> coming from suse, probably have everything on ubuntu as well. especially the big stuff
[21:18] <ELQEYNN> How does the package manager work?
[21:19] <ppf> !apt
[21:19] <lordcirth_> dishwasher, yes, it's literally called 'tree style tabs' and it's great
[21:19] <nicomachus> I can 2nd that
[21:19] <ELQEYNN> dishwasher?
[21:19] <nicomachus> chromium has them too.
[21:19] <dishwasher> ELQEYNN: ?
[21:19] <lordcirth_> I was using tab groups, but this is better
[21:20] <ELQEYNN> chromium, the browser?
[21:20] <nicomachus> I like the firefox add-on better than the chrome extension, though.
[21:20] <nicomachus> yes, ELQEYNN
[21:21] <dishwasher> oh wow it's nice
[21:22] <dishwasher> i tried one before but it was just a proof of concept
[21:22] <Arrghus> ELQEYNN: Ubuntu Software Center is a graphical interface to a searchable database of commonly used ubuntu software, complete with descriptions and reviews and stuff. Makes it easy to install things for people not willing to get their hands dirty with terminal nonsense.
[21:23] <nicomachus> basically, an app store.
[21:24] <Arrghus> Basically an app store, yeah.
[21:24] <porcupine97> can anyone tell me the current status of ubuntu touch? I heard the project was stopped, but I keep getting references to it while browsing around
[21:24] <Arrghus> But with less 'store' and more 'free stuff'. Not all free, but more free.
[21:25] <nicomachus> mostly free.
[21:25] <nicomachus> porcupine97: #ubuntu-touch
[21:25] <porcupine97> nicomachus, tks
[21:28] <insy> does anyone know a theme for ubuntu 16.05 that can make the menubars etc like seethrough glasslike
[21:28] <insy> meant 16.04
[21:29] <nicomachus> insy: maybe try this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/224865/how-to-change-menu-opacity#229292
[21:31] <unknow> re
[21:32] <raymondillo> Hi all. Can anyone give me a definitive pointer (url) to enabling the hibernate function on 16.04. I have googled a couple of hours and tried 3 or 4 suggestions, with no joy so far. I'm on a Dell Inspiron 15 3558. It's a fresh install. Thanks Ray.
[21:33] <anonymous_> hello
[21:33] <unknow> :D
[21:33] <anonymous_> ufff, real people xD
[21:34] <nicomachus> raymondillo: can you please open a terminal and run "sudo pm-hibernate" and let me know what the output says?
[21:34] <unknow> ^^
[21:34] <anonymous_> please, anyone of you could help me?
[21:34] <porcupine97> raymondillo, I think you will have to mess with ACPI/APIC stuff - it depends on your BIOS setup
[21:34] <EriC^^> anonymous_: ask
[21:35] <nicomachus> porcupine97: nah, not really.
[21:35] <anonymous_> i am trying to force xchat work through tor network...
[21:35] <nicomachus> raymondillo: https://askubuntu.com/questions/768136/how-can-i-hibernate-on-ubuntu-16-04#819891
[21:35] <nicomachus> isn't xchat dead?
[21:36] <anonymous_> using it right now...
[21:36] <nicomachus> yea but it's not being updated is it?
[21:36] <porcupine97> nicomachus, xchat...
[21:36] <raymondillo> nicomachus: Thanks but no output at all. I had tried that. I have 8GB Ram and a large enough swap space.
[21:36] <jatt> !info xchat
[21:36] <jatt> !info xchat-gnome
[21:36] <jatt> dammit
[21:36] <nicomachus> heh. do NOT google xchat...
[21:36] <rocket__> now it works EriC^^
[21:36] <rocket__> i took another version
[21:37] <anonymous_> xchat-gnome, sorry
[21:37] <rocket__> 16.10 instead of 16.4
[21:37] <porcupine97> nicomachus, I know bitchx is :)
[21:37] <nicomachus> yea, no updates since 2010 for xchat. the new fork is Hexchat
[21:37] <EriC^^> rocket__: cool
[21:37] <rocket__> i have to say i dont like the unity look
[21:37] <DFarmerTX> Hexchat works like a champ, for m.
[21:37] <DFarmerTX> e
[21:37] <rocket__> why do i have to register to download software
[21:37] <nicomachus> rocket__: then use a different DE. That's the gloriousness of linux.
[21:37] <rocket__> i can do it from the terminal
[21:37] <nicomachus> and you don't have to register...
[21:37] <anonymous_> okay, so I have instaled hexchat too...
[21:37] <rocket__> i will
[21:38] <porcupine97> wow! mine is from 2010! lol
[21:38] <rocket__> i liked xcfe
[21:38] <rocket__> i will install it
[21:38] <nicomachus> anonymous_: then ask in #hexchat about torifying it
[21:38] <anonymous_> never used irc, how to go #hexchat
[21:38] <nicomachus> type "/join #hexchat"
[21:39] <`{^v^}> click on #hexchat <-
[21:39] <anonymous_> thanks you guys
[21:39] <techno2900_> hello ! I would like to know how can I know if a PPA is totally free (without contrib and non free)
[21:39] <nicomachus> techno2900_: gotta check their release site.
[21:39] <techno2900_> but I don't know the release site
[21:39] <techno2900_> I know it's avcon
[21:40] <techno2900_> or something like that
[21:40] <nicomachus> avcon is non-free, because it has plugins for MP3 and other filetypes that are non-free.
[21:40] <techno2900_> okay
[21:40] <nicomachus> mp3, mp4, etc.
[21:40] <techno2900_> so a alternative to avcon exist ?
[21:40] <techno2900_> or not?
[21:41] <raymondillo> nicomachus: I had tried your above url but hadn't noticed that bit  at the end after the btrfs section. Off for some more reading. Thanks.
[21:41] <techno2900_> because I use youtube-dl and without avcon, I have no video only the sound
[21:41] <nicomachus> techno2900_: It's free as in there's no cost, but it's not free as in freedom.
[21:41] <inra> hello everyone, I didn't run any update but firefox popped up a notice out of the blue, saying that I should restart firefox to apply updates???!
[21:41] <techno2900_> i know
[21:41] <`{^v^}> MP# is now part of the public domain
[21:41] <`{^v^}> MP3
[21:41] <techno2900_> but a alternative to avcon exist ?
[21:42] <nicomachus> techno2900_: and since you're downloading from YouTube, you're already non-free. might as well use avconv
[21:42] <techno2900_> okay but it's the name of program, i don't download from youtube
[21:43] <`{^v^}> VLC can do a lot of what avconv does
[21:43] <techno2900_> i can but I notadeveloper
[21:43] <techno2900_> sorry keyboard
[21:43] <techno2900_> i don't download from youtube
[21:43] <`{^v^}> what are you wantng to do with it?
[21:44] <nicomachus> techno2900_: check the manpage from youtube-dl and make sure you're downloading hte correct formats. MKV is good for video.
[21:44] <techno2900_> download french tv video (im a canadian)
[21:44] <techno2900_> okay
[21:44] <nicomachus> mkv is also open/free.
[21:44] <techno2900_> or I convert mp4 to mkv
[21:44] <techno2900_> but for my problem of avcon with youtube-dl ?
[21:45] <rocket__> it always wants me to connect to ubuntu1
[21:45] <rocket__> i should register
[21:45] <nicomachus> rocket__: what version of ubuntu? I thought UbuntuOne was dead...
[21:45] <rocket__> 16.10
[21:45] <rocket__> 64bit
[21:46] <rocket__> when i trz to install
[21:46] <snkcld> when i installed dnsmasq, it looks like my /etc/resolv.conf is automatically set to use 127.0.0.1, and my dhcp resolver is no longer in there
[21:46] <rocket__> i cant
[21:46] <rocket__> it wants me to register
[21:46] <snkcld> how do i get it so that the original /etc/resolv.conf settings are back?
[21:46] <techno2900_> for avcon I make what ?
[21:47] <rocket__> it says to install and remove snaps you need ubuntu1
[21:48] <rocket__> ubuntu single sign on
[21:48] <rocket__> account
[21:48] <rocket__> man arrgg
[21:48] <rocket__> thats like spam
[21:49] <patadasAlHigado> is ubuntu phone still alive?
[21:49] <nicomachus> patadasAlHigado: yes. #ubuntu-touch
[21:49] <patadasAlHigado> are new terminals going to appear?
[21:49] <techno2900_> nicomachus: so for avcon, a solution exist ?
[21:50] <nicomachus> techno2900_: not that I can find.
[21:50] <techno2900_> nicomachus : okay thank you for your help :)
[21:51] <sashpta> Hey can someone pls help me with my vpn ?
[21:51] <nicomachus> !details | sashpta
[21:52] <rocket__> but well doesnt look that bad
[21:52] <sashpta> i got ubuntu 16.04, and nordVPN, i used nordvpns tutorial for the vpn setup but somehow google and some other sites can still find my location :S
[21:53] <jesperson> Hey guys, do you know of any specific teamspeak channel? Or might it be fine for me to ask my question here?
[21:53] <nicomachus> !alis > jesperson
[21:53] <insy> @ nicomachus  tnx for the idea but it seems not doable that way
[21:54] <techno2900_> nicomachus  : oh and I have one last question. ffmpeg is free or not ?
[21:55] <nicomachus> techno2900_: same as avconv
[21:55] <nicomachus> ubuntu used avconv for a few releases, then went back to ffmpeg. They do the same thing.
[21:55] <techno2900_> okay thanks
[21:56] <kk4ewt> techno2900_, no it is not free
[21:56] <techno2900_> kk4ewt : do you know a alternative ?
[21:56] <insy> as it seems , to customize the opacity of it, you need to customize the theme.
[21:57] <kk4ewt> ogg or flac
[21:57] <kk4ewt> http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/M/MPEG.html
[21:59] <dishwasher> techno2900_: what are you trying to do?
[21:59] <nicomachus> dishwasher: he's trying to find a free/free audio converter to use with youtube-dl
[21:59] <dishwasher> nicomachus: to which format though?
[22:00] <rocket__> nicomachus, works all fine now
[22:00] <jesperson> There doesn't seem to be any more specific than #teamspeak and there's only 1 guy in there
[22:00] <nicomachus> idk. I told him to just download it as .mkv
[22:00] <rocket__> i dont use the software center
[22:00] <nicomachus> me neither.
[22:00] <rocket__> ubuntu looks not bad
[22:01] <rocket__> now i have windows and using ubuntu in a vm
[22:01] <nicomachus> rocket__: there's a reason it's the most popular linux distro for new users ATM
[22:01] <rocket__> when i have much more time i will have linux and windows in a vm
[22:01] <rocket__> i wanted to use arch linux later
[22:02] <bit101> Arch is great fun to mess with and great for learning
[22:02] <bit101> but at some point you just want a system that works without constant tweaking
[22:03] <dishwasher> but the AUR
[22:03] <dishwasher> it was so annoying honestly
[22:04] <sashpta>  i got ubuntu 16.04, and nordVPN, i used nordvpns tutorial for the vpn setup but somehow google and some other sites can still find my location and real ip :/
[22:10] <nightwalkerkg> Is it possible to use compiz manager in Ubuntu 16.10 ?
[22:11] <insy> not sure but i cannot find a way to change the opacity for menus etc
[22:12] <nightwalkerkg> I am trying to remove the shadow from the unity launcher
[22:12] <nightwalkerkg> And customize it.
[22:14] <insy> u meant that uber tiny line
[22:15] <nightwalkerkg> insy: yes but also there is a shadow on top near the top and on the right side.
[22:17] <insy> i got so only have that tily lil line my lacher at the bottom
[22:17] <rocket__> is there a lot of bloatware in ubuntu
[22:17] <rocket__> they have some amazon app preinstalled
[22:19] <tyrog> rocket__: What do you consider bloatware? It's very user-dependant
[22:19] <unknow> xxx
[22:20] <rocket__> lol and there it goes
[22:21] <rocket__> ubuntu has experienced an internal error
[22:21] <unknow> yep
[22:21] <unknow> :D
[22:21] <rocket__> i hope i can reboot
[22:21] <rocket__> otherwise i have done all this work for nothing
[22:21] <dishwasher> libreoffice is bloatware
[22:21] <dishwasher> it parses docx
[22:22] <bit101> when i install ubuntu, i remove libreoffice, thunderbird and all the games. frees up a bunch of space
[22:23] <bit101> the games don't take up much, but i'll never use them
[22:23] <bit101> libre and thunderbird are large though. i get rid of them right off
[22:23] <rocket__> webcontainer crashed
[22:23] <rocket__> what does that mean?
[22:23] <rocket__> browser?
[22:24] <dishwasher> rocket__: was the browser open?
[22:25] <rocket__> yes
[22:25] <rocket__> was open
[22:25] <dishwasher> oh
[22:26] <dishwasher> then I have no idea
[22:26] <dishwasher> your setup seems a bit broken
[22:26] <dishwasher> though
[22:27] <sashpta>  i got ubuntu 16.04, and nordVPN, i used nordvpns tutorial for the vpn setup but somehow google and some other sites can still find my location :S
[22:29] <rocket__> the software center sucks
[22:29] <rocket__> it doesnt work at all
[22:30] <Caluser2000> Install synaptic.
[22:31] <rocket__> ok i do
[22:32] <rocket__> Caluser2000, yes that one is far better
[22:36] <step1step2> is there any way to access a fat32 partition on Ubuntu? the partition has to be fat32 cause of mac os. I've tried using a symbolic link on windows but it didn't work out. I'm running windows if you might wonder
[22:36] <kk4ewt> mount it
[22:38] <weedbox> 7
[22:39] <step1step2> http://i.imgur.com/dam1N9S.png
[22:40] <Caleb--> hi
[22:40] <Caleb--> i have just installed an nvidia gtx 1070 graphics card and i'm experiencing some slowness with ubuntu. previously i was using an intel igpu
[22:41] <Caleb--> using the proprietary nvidia drivers
[22:41] <Caleb--> system startup and shutdown have become slower
[22:41] <Caleb--> and when having many chrome tabs open, the whole of unity becomes sluggish
[22:41] <th0r> step1step2, check if that hostname is in /etc/hosts, and if it shows as response to 'hostname'
[22:41] <Caleb--> does this sound familiar to anyone?
[22:42] <Bashing-om> Caleb--: What version driver did you install and from where ?
[22:44] <th0r> step1step2, bash.exe?
[22:44] <step1step2> th0r: http://i.imgur.com/dxzC4mX.png https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/about
[22:45] <step1step2> it works like a vm afaik
[22:45] <th0r> step1step2, but it isn't ubuntu, why are you asking here?
[22:46] <step1step2> because I'm using zsh
[22:46] <Caleb--> Bashing-om, i installed nvidia-370 from the graphics-drivers PPA. Also tried nvidia-367 and nouveau.
[22:46] <needssomehelp> hey everyone. I was planning to sell a hard disk but I then read that people can retrieve my files from it even if I have formatted it. Is there some way to prevent that?
[22:46] <th0r> needssomehelp, wipe it
[22:47] <needssomehelp> th0r, what do you mean?
[22:47] <th0r> needssomehelp, sudo apt install wipe && man wipe
[22:47] <Caleb--> Bashing-om, i wonder if i need to make any changes after moving from the intel igpu. i only disabled it in the BIOS.
[22:47] <Bashing-om> Caleb--: Great . that is all I know to do . That is the end of my skill set .
[22:48] <Caleb--> :-(
[22:48] <Maimster> Anyone use Acronis? I was wondering does Linux have a way to read the *.tib files?
[22:48] <Bashing-om> Caleb--: Hybrid graphics ? or just added the Nvidia card ?
[22:48] <Caleb--> Bashing-om, just added the nvidia card.
[22:48] <Maimster> It isn't a life or death thing, just nosey.
[22:49] <needssomehelp> ok thanks th0r i will try that!
[22:49] <Bashing-om> Caleb--: I would read the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, see what X has to say .
[22:49] <Caleb--> Bashing-om, shutdown takes suspiciously longer now, and the ubuntu logo appears different from how it was when i had the intel. also, i cannot hit ESC or TAB to see shutdown progress/logs.
[22:51] <Ben64> needssomehelp: in reality, all you need to do is "dd bs=1M if=/dev/zero of=<hard drive device>"
[22:53] <needssomehelp> Ben64, could you please explain to me what the bs=1M parameter does?
[22:53] <zorael> Is pepperflashplugin-nonfree broken in 16.10 multiverse? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23372126/
[22:54] <needssomehelp> or in general the command's structure
[22:54] <Ben64> needssomehelp: from "man dd" bs=BYTES              read and write up to BYTES bytes at a time
[22:56] <needssomehelp> Ben64, ok. Why do you think 1M bytes at a time is a good option?
[22:56] <th0r> needssomehelp, if you are writing small files and set bs=1M, each file will tie up 1MB on the drive.
[22:56] <th0r> needssomehelp, on the other hand, if you are writing files that are 1GB each, a bs of 1M will speed things up considerably
[22:57] <needssomehelp> th0r, 1G?
[22:57] <Ben64> needssomehelp: writes 1MB at a time, good for most drives
[22:57] <th0r> needssomehelp, large files
[22:57] <needssomehelp> oh ok
[23:06] <porcupine97> Ben64, I was reading your posts: if=/dev/random is more effective than /dev/zero?
[23:08] <Ben64> porcupine97: no
[23:08] <lee1> Question about Acer Aspire 4520 i'm on ubuntu 16.04.1 and on kernel 4.4.0-43 and using a nvidia geforce 7000 series with the drivers 304.131. So my issue is it doesn't recognize my wifi (meaning I can't select no SSID as if it doesn't detect a wireless device) as well as my sound there none. Any help?
[23:08] <Caleb--> Bashing-om, this is the reason why the ubuntu splash screen is in low-resolution: http://www.binarytides.com/ubuntu-fix-nvidia-graphics/
[23:09] <Bashing-om> Caleb--: reading .
[23:12] <Bashing-om> Caleb--: valid instructions .. but are they effective in your situation ?
[23:15] <Caleb--> Bashing-om, i will try them out soon
[23:16] <Caleb--> i was just going through the systemd journal in search of potential problems, and some nvidia warnings led me to that page
[23:19] <bumbumzumzum> My disk's partition table is full, so I don't have room to add one for Ubuntu. Any guidance?
[23:20] <Ben64> remove something
[23:20] <Bashing-om> Caleb--: As the authod says, only tested in 14.04 (upstart) . I see no issue with the grub edit ( I use it myself ) .. but making up /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash and expecting systemd to use it; maybe a horse of a different color .
[23:21] <bumbumzumzum> Well, those partitions contain factory installed software, so I'm reluctant to remove them. For example, Windows 7 restore is on one, HP utilities is on another.
[23:22] <bumbumzumzum> I thought Wubi might be an option, but from what I've read it is unmaintained. Are there other options?
[23:22] <Ben64> get a new drive?
[23:23] <bumbumzumzum> I'm not thrilled with the idea of swapping hard drives every time I want to boot Windows though ...
[23:24] <Ben64> why would you have to swap
[23:24] <petisnnake> Hello, I'm trying to start 2 uwsgi's on system boot, so in rc.local I've put:  sudo uwsgi --ini /home/myuser/Projects/schedule/uwsgi.ini --chmod-socket=666, followed by sudo uwsgi --ini /home/myuser/Projects/schedule_staging/uwsgi.ini --chmod-socket=666 one line below. Problem is that only the first call creates a socket. Any ideas why?
[23:24] <bumbumzumzum> Because the computer is an HP notebook and only has one hard disk in it.
[23:24] <Ben64> well you have to pick an option
[23:25] <Jordan_U> bumbumzumzum: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[23:25] <petisnnake> If I swap the order, the first call creates the socket properly and the second doesnt
[23:26] <ShayBox> anyone know why my /home is randomly un-mounting or disabling read/write access...?
[23:26] <ShayBox> its a seperate HDD mounted as /home
[23:27] <gry> maybe hard drive failure, start with backing things up
[23:27] <gry> is it a usb
[23:27] <ShayBox> nah, 128gb ssd as / and 1tb hdd as /home
[23:28] <bigpresh> That in no way precludes impending drive failure.
[23:28] <bigpresh> Anything interesting in syslog/dmesg when it happens?
[23:28] <lordcirth_> ShayBox, look at 'dmesg' output when it fails
[23:28] <ShayBox> Both Sata II (6)
[23:29] <lordcirth_> '-o remount,ro' is the standard response to a critical filesystem failure
[23:29] <ShayBox> alright, its not failed right now, it just happens randomly and kde will close because of it
[23:29] <bumbumzumzum> Jordan_U: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23372224
[23:30] <Ben64> ShayBox: that happens when there's a problem
[23:33] <ShayBox> smartctl shows http://paste.ubuntu.com/23372239/ right now
[23:33] <ShayBox> any of that bad?
[23:35] <rocket__> hmm how to speed up graphics in virtual box?
[23:35] <lordcirth_> ShayBox, nothing obvious
[23:35] <lordcirth_> rocket__, there's a checkbox for 3D accel
[23:36] <rocket__> ok
[23:36] <rocket__> 3d
[23:36] <lordcirth_> Other than that, I usually use light DE's or WM's in Vbox
[23:37] <rocket__> #ubuntu
[23:37] <rocket__> re
[23:37] <rocket__> works well
[23:37] <rocket__> thanks
[23:37] <rocket__> now im done
[23:37] <rocket__> nice i like ubuntu
[23:37] <rocket__> the design looks good
[23:40] <rocket__> virtual spaces
[23:40] <rocket__> dont work
[23:40] <rocket__> really
[23:40] <rocket__> will deactivate them
[23:40] <rocket__> seems to be pretty buggy
[23:40] <Ben64> do you have a support question?
[23:40] <rocket__> it hangs
[23:44] <rocket__> Ben64, i think its some vm stuff
[23:44] <rocket__> it hangs sometimes
[23:47] <bumbumzumzum> Ben64: I appreciate that I may end up forced to delete a partition. I just want to know what other options exist before I resort to something so extreme.
[23:47] <Ben64> bum
[23:47] <Ben64> bumbumzumzum: extreme?
[23:48] <bumbumzumzum> Deleting Windows or the utility software installed at the factory would qualify as "extreme" IMHO, yes.
[23:49] <rocket__> another question
[23:49] <rocket__> is it hard to use qemu and gpu pass on nvidia
[23:49] <Ben64> bumbumzumzum: could back up the 4th partition and then delete
[23:53] <bumbumzumzum> Ben64: Why would you have me delete /dev/sda4 instead of one of the partitions adjacent to the largest partition?
[23:55] <bumbumzumzum> Ben64: I don't think 100MB is enough space for an Ubuntu install.
[23:56] <Ben64> you can resize the other stuff
[23:57] <gry> use a disk usage analyzer to remove files you don't need
[23:57] <gry> windirstat for windows, ncdu for linux
[23:57] <bumbumzumzum> gry:  That doesn't solve the problem of the partition table being full.
[23:58] <Bashing-om> bumbumzumzum: Reason why there is that 4 primary partition limit : https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/#a_bootloader .
[23:58] <gry> oh, sorry, I didn't know of that limit :) thanks for the link
[23:58] <DFarmerTX> Wait, can't you just put all of Ubuntu under a single extended partition?
[23:59] <bumbumzumzum> DFarmerTX: I don't have room in the partition table for an extended partition. I'd have to delete a primary partition first.