| === sUbMuNdO is now known as Guest17612 | ||
| anon-desktop | Hi everyone | 00:24 |
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| ouroumov__ | hi anon-desktop | 00:24 |
| anon-desktop | It's my third day with ubuntu mate | 00:26 |
| ouroumov__ | anon-desktop, how do you like it so far? | 00:26 |
| anon-desktop | Just used windows10 for my job | 00:33 |
| anon-desktop | photoshop does not run properly on linux even using wine | 00:33 |
| anon-desktop | same for illustrator... etc | 00:33 |
| anon-desktop | now i have one project on mind and started with ubuntu mate in my laptop | 00:33 |
| anon-desktop | already set p tor daemon, firefox going through tor net, the same for IRC... | 00:33 |
| anon-desktop | adn still looking for more security xD | 00:33 |
| anon-desktop | First time on IRC, how do you talked to me, wich command did you use? please | 00:36 |
| ouroumov_ | anon-desktop, I didn't use any command | 01:06 |
| ouroumov_ | anon-desktop, I'm using the default IRC client that comes with Ubuntu MATE: hexchat | 01:06 |
| anon-desktop | yes | 01:06 |
| anon-desktop | i mean to use my name in your massage referring to me | 01:06 |
| anon-desktop | just writing my name or any command | 01:06 |
| ouroumov_ | I'm just writing your name :) | 01:08 |
| ouroumov_ | And the message goes to everyone connected on the channel, not only you | 01:09 |
| jughead | how to turn off overscan rpi3? | 01:16 |
| anon-desktop | thanks for the info | 01:24 |
| concubicycle | soup | 05:24 |
| === johnc4510 is now known as Ed_Vortex | ||
| === Ed_Vortex is now known as johnc4510 | ||
| mate|44556 | installing right now :D | 07:02 |
| mate|44556 | Triple booting MATE Windows(slackware lol) and Mac OS X | 07:02 |
| mate|44556 | Does GRUB support Mac OS X or will I have to install CLOVER | 07:04 |
| mate|44556 | :( guess no ones on | 07:08 |
| mate|44556 | hi | 07:12 |
| mate|56007 | how do i install the latest version of flash? | 07:37 |
| alkisg | mate|56007: which version do you have now? | 07:38 |
| mate|56007 | the standard on desktop here. it is a web site compalining about not having te latest version | 07:38 |
| mate|56007 | i tried to install last time and it gave me a error, package does not exist | 07:39 |
| mate|56007 | can try again today | 07:39 |
| alkisg | Firefox has flash 11, chromium has the latest one | 07:39 |
| alkisg | In the near future, firefox will also get the latest one in Linux, because adobe recently published it | 07:39 |
| mate|56007 | just tried chrome; the web site gave me same message. please install latest version of flash | 07:40 |
| alkisg | Go to about flash and check your version | 07:40 |
| mate|56007 | i cannot downloadn and install, can I? | 07:40 |
| alkisg | http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ | 07:40 |
| alkisg | Go there with chromium | 07:41 |
| alkisg | Which version does that say there? | 07:41 |
| alkisg | http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ | 07:41 |
| alkisg | For me, it says: You have version 23,0,0,185 installed | 07:42 |
| alkisg | That's the very latest one | 07:42 |
| mate|56007 | it does not say the version. just we only work on latest version and the same message appears both on chrome and firefox | 07:43 |
| alkisg | If it doesn't say the version, then you don't have flash installed | 07:43 |
| alkisg | What's the output of this? dpkg -l '*flash*' | grep ^ii | 07:44 |
| mate|56007 | i dont see the same message. how do i install it? | 07:46 |
| alkisg | Open a terminal and copy/paste the command that I gave you, and then paste its output here. | 07:46 |
| mate|56007 | sorry mate, i am struggling to copy and paste your command. i am on a mac | 07:57 |
| alkisg | Select the command and then go to the terminal and press middle mouse click, or both left+right click if you don't have a wheel | 07:58 |
| alkisg | Or go to the paste menu. Or just type it. :) | 07:58 |
| mate|56007 | ii flashplugin-installer 11.2.202.637ubuntu0.16.04.1 amd64 Adobe Flash Player plugin installer | 08:00 |
| alkisg | That's the wrong one, and that's why you don't have flash in chromium-browser | 08:00 |
| alkisg | You need to enable the partner repository, and install adobe-flashplugin | 08:00 |
| mate|56007 | how do i fix this i just installed it from the ubuntu software centre | 08:01 |
| alkisg | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Partner-Flash | 08:02 |
| mate|69167 | i tried all links you have sent,could not install flash | 08:19 |
| alkisg | mate|69167: what was the error message? | 08:20 |
| mate|69167 | any help in installing flash plugin for chrome | 08:21 |
| alkisg | Did you try to follow the wiki page with the instructions? | 08:21 |
| alkisg | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Partner-Flash | 08:21 |
| mate|69167 | yes did | 08:21 |
| alkisg | And which step was not successful? | 08:21 |
| mate|69167 | does it make a difference that i am on the free aws | 08:21 |
| alkisg | I have no idea what aws does, ask them | 08:22 |
| mate|69167 | i could click onthe partner software and from there onwards nothing worked | 08:22 |
| alkisg | Which step of the wiki page had a problem? | 08:22 |
| mate|69167 | the search did not even returnadobe-flash in it | 08:22 |
| mate|69167 | can you please send me link again | 08:23 |
| alkisg | I just did, see 10 lines above | 08:23 |
| mate|69167 | all my wndows crashed and had to log out (oh sorry) | 08:23 |
| ouroumov_ | I wasn't aware there was a flash plugin for chrome | 08:27 |
| ouroumov_ | Isn't chrome shipping with its own version of flash? | 08:27 |
| alkisg | ouroumov_, in chrome it's shipped by the package, while in chromium it's separate | 08:28 |
| alkisg | It's the same pepper-flash-plugin.so file in both cases | 08:28 |
| alkisg | And nowadays both the npapi and ppapi version are in the same adobe-flashplugin.deb from the partner repository | 08:28 |
| alkisg | the npapi is in version 11, while the ppapi one in version 23 | 08:29 |
| alkisg | In the near future, adobe will publish the 23 version for the npapi plugin as well | 08:29 |
| alkisg | So, long story short, the correct instructions for flash are in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Partner-Flash | 08:29 |
| alkisg | (because there are many old pages out there suggesting the wrong flashplugin-installer) | 08:30 |
| mate|69167 | fail at 1d(2) (sorry had to go away) | 08:58 |
| mate|69167 | for some reason i am getting authentication errors at this time, although i have logged into my session twice with same password | 09:02 |
| ouroumov_ | mate|69167, check you're using the correct keyboard layout | 09:07 |
| ouroumov_ | You should have a language switch thingie somewhere on the lightdm screen | 09:07 |
| === scottt is now known as Guest30883 | ||
| DagDaWildDog | W: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/kernel-ppa/ppa/ubuntu yakkety Release' does not have a Release file. | 09:28 |
| DagDaWildDog | is that bad? | 09:28 |
| DagDaWildDog | I'm on ubuntu-mate 16.10 | 09:28 |
| DagDaWildDog | it also causes E: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kernel-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/yakkety/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found | 09:29 |
| dumpchama | hi... i have this problem where after about 10min or so the MATE environment becomes unresponsive to mouse clicks / keyboard etc, and I have to do ctrl+alt+f1 to fix it | 09:33 |
| dumpchama | how can I find the cause of the problem? | 09:33 |
| ouroumov_ | DagDaWildDog, sup | 09:40 |
| ouroumov_ | DagDaWildDog, try and run the "Fixes" from the software boutique | 09:40 |
| DagDaWildDog | on it | 09:41 |
| ouroumov_ | dumpchama, hi | 09:41 |
| DagDaWildDog | thanks! | 09:41 |
| dumpchama | hi | 09:41 |
| ouroumov_ | dumpchama, are you using Compiz? And what version of UM? | 09:42 |
| DagDaWildDog | ah, it also says it in fixes. "E:The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/kernel-ppa/ppa/ubuntu yakkety Release' does not have a Release file." | 09:42 |
| dumpchama | i have compiz installed but i'm not sure if it's "active" | 09:42 |
| dumpchama | also using 16.04 of UM | 09:42 |
| ouroumov_ | DagDaWildDog, weird | 09:42 |
| ouroumov_ | DagDaWildDog, maybe report it on the forum | 09:47 |
| DagDaWildDog | ok, will do | 09:47 |
| ouroumov_ | I'm sorry I don't have the time to dig deep, I'm supposed to be listening to a conference | 09:47 |
| DagDaWildDog | it is okay, it doesn't seem to be causing problems! | 09:50 |
| DagDaWildDog | it's just weird | 09:51 |
| alkisg | DagDaWildDog: what are the contents of that file? /etc/apt/sources.list.d/your-ppa.list | 09:51 |
| alkisg | or, what are the results of this command: grep -r kernel-ppa /etc/apt/sources.list* | 09:52 |
| alkisg | dumpchama: when that happens, switch to alt+ctrl+f1, and check the output of `dmesg`, and the contents of /var/log/Xorg.*.log | 09:53 |
| DagDaWildDog | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23373724/ | 09:54 |
| dumpchama | alkisg: ok | 09:54 |
| dumpchama | I will remember that in case it happens again | 09:54 |
| alkisg | DagDaWildDog: this repository doesn't publish anything for yakkety yet: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kernel-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/ | 09:54 |
| DagDaWildDog | oops, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23373728/ | 09:54 |
| alkisg | How did you add it? | 09:54 |
| alkisg | Or, why? | 09:54 |
| DagDaWildDog | because 4.8.0.22 works and 4.8.0.26 doesn't, so I downloaded 4.8.1 generic | 09:55 |
| alkisg | DagDaWildDog: so you added it trying to find the kernel there, but it wasn't there, and you downloaded the kernel from elsewhere? | 09:55 |
| DagDaWildDog | spent a few hours yesterday tryong to make .26 work and gave up | 09:55 |
| DagDaWildDog | oh, maybe so | 09:56 |
| DagDaWildDog | no need for that ppa then I guess? | 09:56 |
| DagDaWildDog | I tried a lot ;f things | 09:56 |
| alkisg | In any case, that repository has nothing at all for yaketty | 09:56 |
| alkisg | So nothing for you there, delete it | 09:56 |
| DagDaWildDog | okay, thanks | 09:56 |
| alkisg | np | 09:56 |
| DagDaWildDog | when mate reaches 4.8.1 will mine get updated to the ubuntu mate version? or will I remain on generic? | 09:57 |
| DagDaWildDog | it's working fine, just curious | 09:57 |
| alkisg | It depends on what you did to install the previous version | 09:57 |
| alkisg | What's the output of this? dpkg -l '*linux*' | grep ^ii | 09:58 |
| DagDaWildDog | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23373738/ | 09:58 |
| alkisg | These are the available kernels for yakkety: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=yakkety&keywords=linux-image-generic | 09:58 |
| alkisg | OK so now you have 3 kernels, and you say that only one of them works, the 4.8.1 one? | 09:58 |
| DagDaWildDog | .22 works as well, but it won't auto-boot to .22 because .26 is newer | 09:59 |
| DagDaWildDog | that's why I got .1 | 09:59 |
| alkisg | You can change the grub menu easily | 09:59 |
| alkisg | And default to .22 | 09:59 |
| alkisg | Or, you can remove the .26 and keep the stock one | 09:59 |
| alkisg | When a kernel > 4.8.1 is installed by ubuntu, then it will default to that one | 10:00 |
| DagDaWildDog | hm, at this point I think it's probably good to let that happen when it happens then (based on vague idea of 4.8.1 probably being better than 4.8.0.22 in some way) | 10:01 |
| DagDaWildDog | how can I remove .26 just in case? | 10:01 |
| alkisg | It's best to have a maintained kernel, from some repository that gets security updates | 10:01 |
| DagDaWildDog | ah, so you would use 0.22 and delete both 0.26 and .1.0? | 10:01 |
| alkisg | If you apt-get purge the .26 one, it will also remove the linux-image-generic metapackage, and you won't get newer kernels, and will keep the .22 one | 10:02 |
| alkisg | Personally I would change the grub menu | 10:02 |
| alkisg | So that I would default to .22, and then when some newer one is out, I would manually test via grub the newer one, and if it's ok, then I would delete the .22 | 10:02 |
| alkisg | One very easy hack for you: sudo rm /boot/vmlinuz-26; sudo update-grub :) | 10:03 |
| DagDaWildDog | how would you notice the newer one came out? | 10:03 |
| alkisg | Automatic updates | 10:03 |
| alkisg | It would automatically appear on grub menu | 10:03 |
| DagDaWildDog | ah, ok | 10:03 |
| alkisg | Actually the rm hack is better because when a new kernel is out, you will default to that one immediately and see if the issue is fixed | 10:04 |
| alkisg | So yup I suggest that you apt-get purge the 4.8.1, you rm /boot/vmlinuz-26, and then update-grub | 10:04 |
| DagDaWildDog | okay, cool, will do! | 10:04 |
| alkisg | np | 10:05 |
| DagDaWildDog | how about cp /boot/*26* /home/kernelbak/ and then rm those | 10:06 |
| alkisg | No need, you can just apt-get install --reinstall | 10:06 |
| alkisg | Don't remove everything there; just the vmlinuz-26 file | 10:06 |
| DagDaWildDog | ah, ok | 10:06 |
| alkisg | Then it will disappear from the grub menu | 10:06 |
| alkisg | (after update-grub) | 10:06 |
| alkisg | sudo rm /boot/vmlinuz-4.8.0-26-generic; sudo update-grub | 10:07 |
| alkisg | Something like that | 10:07 |
| alkisg | (after purging the 4.8.1 package) | 10:07 |
| DagDaWildDog | I regret making /boot/ only 200 mb , oh well :) | 10:07 |
| * alkisg hates separate boot partitions :D | 10:07 | |
| DagDaWildDog | I did it using the Gentoo guide because I hate how auto partition usually puts /home/ on the fast part of the disk | 10:08 |
| DagDaWildDog | and / and swap go later | 10:08 |
| alkisg | It does?! | 10:09 |
| alkisg | Generally, /home should be on the fast part of the disk | 10:09 |
| alkisg | But I don't think Ubuntu does a separate /home by default | 10:09 |
| alkisg | It just creates a / and a swap | 10:09 |
| DagDaWildDog | well if you choose separate home | 10:09 |
| DagDaWildDog | maybe actually ubuntu doesn't | 10:09 |
| DagDaWildDog | I tried Debian first | 10:09 |
| alkisg | / is mostly read-only so it's cached so it doesn't need to be fast | 10:09 |
| alkisg | and swap should not be used at all by default, so it doesn't need to be fast | 10:09 |
| DagDaWildDog | nothing worked in debian, so here we are in ubuntu | 10:10 |
| alkisg | So /home is the partition that needs to be the faster one | 10:10 |
| DagDaWildDog | interesting, okay | 10:10 |
| alkisg | Debian/Ubuntu is basically the same, just the painting is different... | 10:10 |
| DagDaWildDog | I think of /home as storage and / as where programs launch from so I want it fast | 10:10 |
| DagDaWildDog | well in Debian even with contrib nonfree, drivers were a disaster | 10:11 |
| DagDaWildDog | spent a few hours tryong to get wifi | 10:11 |
| DagDaWildDog | using an ethernet cable of course, not disks | 10:11 |
| DagDaWildDog | pop in ubuntu CD, bang everything works | 10:11 |
| alkisg | Yeah it does have some packages that are not installed by default and you need to look for them | 10:11 |
| DagDaWildDog | I think video driver was also minor trouble, but I got that sorted | 10:12 |
| alkisg | it's nothing hard, just an apt-get install away, but it can be very frustrating for users that don't know which ones they are | 10:12 |
| alkisg | Mostly proprietary firmware files | 10:12 |
| DagDaWildDog | yeah, i installed so many drivers | 10:13 |
| DagDaWildDog | it's Killer Wireless on alienware 15, I debated maybe copying the drivers from this install, over to debian, but why leave a system that's working mostly fine | 10:14 |
| alkisg | lspci --nn -k | grep -A2 Wireless => shows you the driver in use | 10:15 |
| alkisg | And then in the debian package search, you search for that firmware | 10:15 |
| alkisg | You almost never need to copy drivers, you just need to install them from the debian/ubuntu repositories | 10:15 |
| DagDaWildDog | ah, yes | 10:17 |
| DagDaWildDog | ath10k | 10:17 |
| DagDaWildDog | I totally downloaded that! | 10:17 |
| DagDaWildDog | I must have installed it wrong | 10:18 |
| DagDaWildDog | who knows | 10:18 |
| DagDaWildDog | it wasn't in the repository though afaik | 10:18 |
| DagDaWildDog | just ath9something | 10:18 |
| dumpchama | alkisg: i have xorg.0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23373843/ and xorg.1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23373845/ | 10:18 |
| dumpchama | also I tried dmesg but i'm not sure what to be looking for in that either? | 10:19 |
| DagDaWildDog | dumpchama, you are usually looking for lines with (EE) in them | 10:22 |
| dumpchama | that's strange, I used search function for EE and there are no results... | 10:31 |
| dumpchama | other than the start which says that EE is for error | 10:31 |
| DagDaWildDog | ah, dang. I had that once. ended up the error was in an unexpected file... but maybe you're not having a true full strength Error that gets an EE in the log. I hope more experienced persons have ideas for you | 10:33 |
| DagDaWildDog | in my case, I did have an (EE) it just was in a different file than the two I was looking in | 10:34 |
| DagDaWildDog | (brb, restarting to older kernel... say a prayer for me :) | 10:35 |
| manjaro | alkisg, bad idea to purge 4.8.1 | 11:35 |
| manjaro | now I have to get it back, without a gui :P | 11:35 |
| manjaro | .22 can't start lightdm or x or something now either haha | 11:35 |
| linuxtux | hola | 13:28 |
| === ulli is now known as Guest22361 | ||
| Jakey3 | how do i remove programs in ubuntu mate 16.04 in the gui? | 15:24 |
| Jakey3 | I can see software boutique but I cant see how to unistall software | 15:27 |
| nomic | use synaptic | 15:27 |
| nomic | tool .. you right click on a package & select "remove , remove all files" | 15:27 |
| nomic | synaptic (to install) = sudo apt-get install synaptic | 15:28 |
| nomic | synaptic = simple, overall package management index | 15:28 |
| nomic | search for the package in search bar, click to install, remove | 15:28 |
| Jakey3 | nomic, so there is nothing to remove applications that comes with ubuntu mate | 15:28 |
| Jakey3 | i.e. software boutique | 15:28 |
| nomic | that is what i use, what I am aware of -- I have no idea what software boutique is | 15:28 |
| nomic | sorry | 15:28 |
| nomic | ask either in #ubuntu (more populous), or on the forum -- the forum is extremely busy | 15:29 |
| nomic | = ubuntu forums, mate forums | 15:29 |
| Jakey3 | ok thanks | 15:29 |
| nomic | people tend ot use a subset (older users) -- I am unaware of any "features" , really, -- I use the simple, most basic facilities, fundamental -- of which "synaptic" is one. Always there, always works | 15:30 |
| nomic | bells n whistles do not interest me .. why I like mate/xubuntu -- the OS is not an issue, it is unfussy | 15:31 |
| nomic | none of this periodic upheaval (as with windows) | 15:31 |
| Jakey3 | nomic, im using lubuntu previously they had the software center | 15:35 |
| Jakey3 | made it easy to unistall programs | 15:35 |
| Jakey3 | i was wondering if there is an equivalent | 15:35 |
| Jakey3 | on mate | 15:35 |
| jaythelinuxguy | Jakey3, as nomic mentioned, Synaptic is your best bet for what you're seeking. | 16:17 |
| josemi85 | hola | 16:40 |
| Jakey3 | jaythelinuxguy, ok | 16:40 |
| === JensNDS_ is now known as JensNDS | ||
| vkadam | Hell | 18:28 |
| vkadam | Hello Everyone | 18:28 |
| jaythelinuxguy | Hi vkadam | 18:40 |
| === TheMuso` is now known as TheMuso | ||
| === ubuntu-mate is now known as elnney | ||
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