=== sUbMuNdO is now known as Guest17612 [00:24] Hi everyone [00:24] hi anon-desktop [00:26] It's my third day with ubuntu mate [00:26] anon-desktop, how do you like it so far? [00:33] Just used windows10 for my job [00:33] photoshop does not run properly on linux even using wine [00:33] same for illustrator... etc [00:33] now i have one project on mind and started with ubuntu mate in my laptop [00:33] already set p tor daemon, firefox going through tor net, the same for IRC... [00:33] adn still looking for more security xD [00:36] First time on IRC, how do you talked to me, wich command did you use? please [01:06] anon-desktop, I didn't use any command [01:06] anon-desktop, I'm using the default IRC client that comes with Ubuntu MATE: hexchat [01:06] yes [01:06] i mean to use my name in your massage referring to me [01:06] just writing my name or any command [01:08] I'm just writing your name :) [01:09] And the message goes to everyone connected on the channel, not only you [01:16] how to turn off overscan rpi3? [01:24] thanks for the info [05:24] soup === johnc4510 is now known as Ed_Vortex === Ed_Vortex is now known as johnc4510 [07:02] installing right now :D [07:02] Triple booting MATE Windows(slackware lol) and Mac OS X [07:04] Does GRUB support Mac OS X or will I have to install CLOVER [07:08] :( guess no ones on [07:12] hi [07:37] how do i install the latest version of flash? [07:38] mate|56007: which version do you have now? [07:38] the standard on desktop here. it is a web site compalining about not having te latest version [07:39] i tried to install last time and it gave me a error, package does not exist [07:39] can try again today [07:39] Firefox has flash 11, chromium has the latest one [07:39] In the near future, firefox will also get the latest one in Linux, because adobe recently published it [07:40] just tried chrome; the web site gave me same message. please install latest version of flash [07:40] Go to about flash and check your version [07:40] i cannot downloadn and install, can I? [07:40] http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ [07:41] Go there with chromium [07:41] Which version does that say there? [07:41] http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ [07:42] For me, it says: You have version 23,0,0,185 installed [07:42] That's the very latest one [07:43] it does not say the version. just we only work on latest version and the same message appears both on chrome and firefox [07:43] If it doesn't say the version, then you don't have flash installed [07:44] What's the output of this? dpkg -l '*flash*' | grep ^ii [07:46] i dont see the same message. how do i install it? [07:46] Open a terminal and copy/paste the command that I gave you, and then paste its output here. [07:57] sorry mate, i am struggling to copy and paste your command. i am on a mac [07:58] Select the command and then go to the terminal and press middle mouse click, or both left+right click if you don't have a wheel [07:58] Or go to the paste menu. Or just type it. :) [08:00] ii flashplugin-installer 11.2.202.637ubuntu0.16.04.1 amd64 Adobe Flash Player plugin installer [08:00] That's the wrong one, and that's why you don't have flash in chromium-browser [08:00] You need to enable the partner repository, and install adobe-flashplugin [08:01] how do i fix this i just installed it from the ubuntu software centre [08:02] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Partner-Flash [08:19] i tried all links you have sent,could not install flash [08:20] mate|69167: what was the error message? [08:21] any help in installing flash plugin for chrome [08:21] Did you try to follow the wiki page with the instructions? [08:21] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Partner-Flash [08:21] yes did [08:21] And which step was not successful? [08:21] does it make a difference that i am on the free aws [08:22] I have no idea what aws does, ask them [08:22] i could click onthe partner software and from there onwards nothing worked [08:22] Which step of the wiki page had a problem? [08:22] the search did not even returnadobe-flash in it [08:23] can you please send me link again [08:23] I just did, see 10 lines above [08:23] all my wndows crashed and had to log out (oh sorry) [08:27] I wasn't aware there was a flash plugin for chrome [08:27] Isn't chrome shipping with its own version of flash? [08:28] ouroumov_, in chrome it's shipped by the package, while in chromium it's separate [08:28] It's the same pepper-flash-plugin.so file in both cases [08:28] And nowadays both the npapi and ppapi version are in the same adobe-flashplugin.deb from the partner repository [08:29] the npapi is in version 11, while the ppapi one in version 23 [08:29] In the near future, adobe will publish the 23 version for the npapi plugin as well [08:29] So, long story short, the correct instructions for flash are in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Partner-Flash [08:30] (because there are many old pages out there suggesting the wrong flashplugin-installer) [08:58] fail at 1d(2) (sorry had to go away) [09:02] for some reason i am getting authentication errors at this time, although i have logged into my session twice with same password [09:07] mate|69167, check you're using the correct keyboard layout [09:07] You should have a language switch thingie somewhere on the lightdm screen === scottt is now known as Guest30883 [09:28] W: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/kernel-ppa/ppa/ubuntu yakkety Release' does not have a Release file. [09:28] is that bad? [09:28] I'm on ubuntu-mate 16.10 [09:29] it also causes E: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kernel-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/yakkety/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found [09:33] hi... i have this problem where after about 10min or so the MATE environment becomes unresponsive to mouse clicks / keyboard etc, and I have to do ctrl+alt+f1 to fix it [09:33] how can I find the cause of the problem? [09:40] DagDaWildDog, sup [09:40] DagDaWildDog, try and run the "Fixes" from the software boutique [09:41] on it [09:41] dumpchama, hi [09:41] thanks! [09:41] hi [09:42] dumpchama, are you using Compiz? And what version of UM? [09:42] ah, it also says it in fixes. "E:The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/kernel-ppa/ppa/ubuntu yakkety Release' does not have a Release file." [09:42] i have compiz installed but i'm not sure if it's "active" [09:42] also using 16.04 of UM [09:42] DagDaWildDog, weird [09:47] DagDaWildDog, maybe report it on the forum [09:47] ok, will do [09:47] I'm sorry I don't have the time to dig deep, I'm supposed to be listening to a conference [09:50] it is okay, it doesn't seem to be causing problems! [09:51] it's just weird [09:51] DagDaWildDog: what are the contents of that file? /etc/apt/sources.list.d/your-ppa.list [09:52] or, what are the results of this command: grep -r kernel-ppa /etc/apt/sources.list* [09:53] dumpchama: when that happens, switch to alt+ctrl+f1, and check the output of `dmesg`, and the contents of /var/log/Xorg.*.log [09:54] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23373724/ [09:54] alkisg: ok [09:54] I will remember that in case it happens again [09:54] DagDaWildDog: this repository doesn't publish anything for yakkety yet: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kernel-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/ [09:54] oops, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23373728/ [09:54] How did you add it? [09:54] Or, why? [09:55] because 4.8.0.22 works and 4.8.0.26 doesn't, so I downloaded 4.8.1 generic [09:55] DagDaWildDog: so you added it trying to find the kernel there, but it wasn't there, and you downloaded the kernel from elsewhere? [09:55] spent a few hours yesterday tryong to make .26 work and gave up [09:56] oh, maybe so [09:56] no need for that ppa then I guess? [09:56] I tried a lot ;f things [09:56] In any case, that repository has nothing at all for yaketty [09:56] So nothing for you there, delete it [09:56] okay, thanks [09:56] np [09:57] when mate reaches 4.8.1 will mine get updated to the ubuntu mate version? or will I remain on generic? [09:57] it's working fine, just curious [09:57] It depends on what you did to install the previous version [09:58] What's the output of this? dpkg -l '*linux*' | grep ^ii [09:58] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23373738/ [09:58] These are the available kernels for yakkety: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=yakkety&keywords=linux-image-generic [09:58] OK so now you have 3 kernels, and you say that only one of them works, the 4.8.1 one? [09:59] .22 works as well, but it won't auto-boot to .22 because .26 is newer [09:59] that's why I got .1 [09:59] You can change the grub menu easily [09:59] And default to .22 [09:59] Or, you can remove the .26 and keep the stock one [10:00] When a kernel > 4.8.1 is installed by ubuntu, then it will default to that one [10:01] hm, at this point I think it's probably good to let that happen when it happens then (based on vague idea of 4.8.1 probably being better than 4.8.0.22 in some way) [10:01] how can I remove .26 just in case? [10:01] It's best to have a maintained kernel, from some repository that gets security updates [10:01] ah, so you would use 0.22 and delete both 0.26 and .1.0? [10:02] If you apt-get purge the .26 one, it will also remove the linux-image-generic metapackage, and you won't get newer kernels, and will keep the .22 one [10:02] Personally I would change the grub menu [10:02] So that I would default to .22, and then when some newer one is out, I would manually test via grub the newer one, and if it's ok, then I would delete the .22 [10:03] One very easy hack for you: sudo rm /boot/vmlinuz-26; sudo update-grub :) [10:03] how would you notice the newer one came out? [10:03] Automatic updates [10:03] It would automatically appear on grub menu [10:03] ah, ok [10:04] Actually the rm hack is better because when a new kernel is out, you will default to that one immediately and see if the issue is fixed [10:04] So yup I suggest that you apt-get purge the 4.8.1, you rm /boot/vmlinuz-26, and then update-grub [10:04] okay, cool, will do! [10:05] np [10:06] how about cp /boot/*26* /home/kernelbak/ and then rm those [10:06] No need, you can just apt-get install --reinstall [10:06] Don't remove everything there; just the vmlinuz-26 file [10:06] ah, ok [10:06] Then it will disappear from the grub menu [10:06] (after update-grub) [10:07] sudo rm /boot/vmlinuz-4.8.0-26-generic; sudo update-grub [10:07] Something like that [10:07] (after purging the 4.8.1 package) [10:07] I regret making /boot/ only 200 mb , oh well :) [10:07] * alkisg hates separate boot partitions :D [10:08] I did it using the Gentoo guide because I hate how auto partition usually puts /home/ on the fast part of the disk [10:08] and / and swap go later [10:09] It does?! [10:09] Generally, /home should be on the fast part of the disk [10:09] But I don't think Ubuntu does a separate /home by default [10:09] It just creates a / and a swap [10:09] well if you choose separate home [10:09] maybe actually ubuntu doesn't [10:09] I tried Debian first [10:09] / is mostly read-only so it's cached so it doesn't need to be fast [10:09] and swap should not be used at all by default, so it doesn't need to be fast [10:10] nothing worked in debian, so here we are in ubuntu [10:10] So /home is the partition that needs to be the faster one [10:10] interesting, okay [10:10] Debian/Ubuntu is basically the same, just the painting is different... [10:10] I think of /home as storage and / as where programs launch from so I want it fast [10:11] well in Debian even with contrib nonfree, drivers were a disaster [10:11] spent a few hours tryong to get wifi [10:11] using an ethernet cable of course, not disks [10:11] pop in ubuntu CD, bang everything works [10:11] Yeah it does have some packages that are not installed by default and you need to look for them [10:12] I think video driver was also minor trouble, but I got that sorted [10:12] it's nothing hard, just an apt-get install away, but it can be very frustrating for users that don't know which ones they are [10:12] Mostly proprietary firmware files [10:13] yeah, i installed so many drivers [10:14] it's Killer Wireless on alienware 15, I debated maybe copying the drivers from this install, over to debian, but why leave a system that's working mostly fine [10:15] lspci --nn -k | grep -A2 Wireless => shows you the driver in use [10:15] And then in the debian package search, you search for that firmware [10:15] You almost never need to copy drivers, you just need to install them from the debian/ubuntu repositories [10:17] ah, yes [10:17] ath10k [10:17] I totally downloaded that! [10:18] I must have installed it wrong [10:18] who knows [10:18] it wasn't in the repository though afaik [10:18] just ath9something [10:18] alkisg: i have xorg.0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23373843/ and xorg.1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23373845/ [10:19] also I tried dmesg but i'm not sure what to be looking for in that either? [10:22] dumpchama, you are usually looking for lines with (EE) in them [10:31] that's strange, I used search function for EE and there are no results... [10:31] other than the start which says that EE is for error [10:33] ah, dang. I had that once. ended up the error was in an unexpected file... but maybe you're not having a true full strength Error that gets an EE in the log. I hope more experienced persons have ideas for you [10:34] in my case, I did have an (EE) it just was in a different file than the two I was looking in [10:35] (brb, restarting to older kernel... say a prayer for me :) [11:35] alkisg, bad idea to purge 4.8.1 [11:35] now I have to get it back, without a gui :P [11:35] .22 can't start lightdm or x or something now either haha [13:28] hola === ulli is now known as Guest22361 [15:24] how do i remove programs in ubuntu mate 16.04 in the gui? [15:27] I can see software boutique but I cant see how to unistall software [15:27] use synaptic [15:27] tool .. you right click on a package & select "remove , remove all files" [15:28] synaptic (to install) = sudo apt-get install synaptic [15:28] synaptic = simple, overall package management index [15:28] search for the package in search bar, click to install, remove [15:28] nomic, so there is nothing to remove applications that comes with ubuntu mate [15:28] i.e. software boutique [15:28] that is what i use, what I am aware of -- I have no idea what software boutique is [15:28] sorry [15:29] ask either in #ubuntu (more populous), or on the forum -- the forum is extremely busy [15:29] = ubuntu forums, mate forums [15:29] ok thanks [15:30] people tend ot use a subset (older users) -- I am unaware of any "features" , really, -- I use the simple, most basic facilities, fundamental -- of which "synaptic" is one. Always there, always works [15:31] bells n whistles do not interest me .. why I like mate/xubuntu -- the OS is not an issue, it is unfussy [15:31] none of this periodic upheaval (as with windows) [15:35] nomic, im using lubuntu previously they had the software center [15:35] made it easy to unistall programs [15:35] i was wondering if there is an equivalent [15:35] on mate [16:17] Jakey3, as nomic mentioned, Synaptic is your best bet for what you're seeking. [16:40] hola [16:40] jaythelinuxguy, ok === JensNDS_ is now known as JensNDS [18:28] Hell [18:28] Hello Everyone [18:40] Hi vkadam === TheMuso` is now known as TheMuso === ubuntu-mate is now known as elnney