| diplo | Morning all | 08:01 |
|---|---|---|
| BigRedS | gooood morning! | 08:08 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 08:19 |
| popey | morning | 08:21 |
| knightwi1e | hey popey | 08:22 |
| brobosti1on | morning boys and girls. | 08:31 |
| === brobosti1on is now known as brobostigon | ||
| Gargoyle | mornin | 09:04 |
| === brmbrmca1 is now known as brmbrmcar | ||
| diddledan | evening | 10:11 |
| * zmoylan-pi hugs mug of tea and contemplates turning on the ligths as it's so gloomy... | 10:25 | |
| diddledan | it's cold, too | 11:42 |
| * diddledan hugs zmoylan-pi's mug of tea, too | 11:42 | |
| * zmoylan-pi pushes the pack of generic penguins towards diddledan to go with mug of tea | 11:45 | |
| diddledan | puffins ftw | 11:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | aldi seal bars... | 11:46 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 11:46 |
| * davmor2 watches the pack of penguins knock diddledan's tea off the table cause penguins are evil | 11:46 | |
| * zmoylan-pi wishes there were puffins around the east cost of ireland... one of the few sea birds i haven't seen | 11:46 | |
| daftykins | afternoon all | 12:20 |
| daftykins | wowzer, i listed 3 smartphones for sale yesterday and the first one is out of my hands already :D | 12:20 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 12:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | daftykins eats tonight \o/ | 12:21 |
| daftykins | haha | 12:22 |
| daftykins | only £35 for a Samsung Galaxy S3 | 12:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | noodles it is... | 12:22 |
| daftykins | aww yis | 12:23 |
| daftykins | i'm on a diet since the US trip so no more curry ;) | 12:23 |
| zmoylan-pi | noodles for using your noodle | 12:23 |
| zmoylan-pi | no spicebag for daftykins then... | 12:23 |
| daftykins | was that that funny Irish chipper thing? | 12:24 |
| zmoylan-pi | yeah | 12:25 |
| zmoylan-pi | seems one of our d&d gaming group had one recently | 12:25 |
| zmoylan-pi | is now a fan | 12:26 |
| Azelphur | Hey folks, OpenVPN driving me a little nuts. I have a virtual machine running Ubuntu Server, OpenVPN and a web server. Shutting down the VPN allows me access to the webserver, as soon as I fire up OpenVPN - no access to the webserver. Any ideas? | 12:26 |
| daftykins | :> | 12:26 |
| daftykins | Azelphur: pastebin of "netstat -tuln" before and after? | 12:26 |
| Azelphur | daftykins: https://dpaste.de/wZao | 12:29 |
| Azelphur | the web bit is listening on 58846 for reference | 12:29 |
| daftykins | thank tux for that 'raw' button XD | 12:30 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 12:30 |
| daftykins | so is that you trying to run it on UDP 50302? | 12:30 |
| daftykins | it being OpenVPN | 12:30 |
| Azelphur | daftykins: I guess, the OpenVPN part works fine, it connects and I can route traffic through the VPN | 12:31 |
| daftykins | from what point are you trying to hit the site? your desktop on the same home network? | 12:32 |
| Azelphur | correct | 12:32 |
| diddledan | Azelphur: are you routing ALL traffic through the VPN? if so then the web server will only be accessible through the VPN | 12:32 |
| Azelphur | diddledan: yup, that's the problem. | 12:32 |
| daftykins | mmm gotta change your OpenVPN config | 12:32 |
| daftykins | if your chosen web server were listening on all interfaces you'd hit it on the VPN host IP :D possibly 10.8.0.1 on a default config | 12:33 |
| Azelphur | question is what to :) | 12:33 |
| diddledan | you could try messing with iptables... | 12:37 |
| Azelphur | yea, I think that's what I'm gonna have to do, sounds painful >.< | 12:38 |
| diddledan | basically routing ALL traffic through the VPN means that replies on your public IP to the web server are trying to go through the VPN which has a different public IP | 12:38 |
| diddledan | random aside: I love the theme music for Westworld | 12:41 |
| Azelphur | indeed, seems like what I want is traffic splitting, or split tunnelling | 12:41 |
| diddledan | the whole intro is epic | 12:41 |
| daftykin1 | err not sure if my last messages got through there before Wilhelm killed me | 12:41 |
| diddledan | aww, poor daftykin1 | 12:41 |
| daftykin1 | Azelphur: did you see the digitalocean guide? that has some handy tips | 12:41 |
| daftykin1 | ikr :( | 12:41 |
| Azelphur | daftykin1: I did not, link? | 12:41 |
| daftykin1 | diddledan: i lost mein Wilhelm </Archer> | 12:41 |
| zmoylan-pi | daftykins last message pre split was 'if your chosen web server...' | 12:42 |
| daftykin1 | zmoylan-pi: ty sir | 12:42 |
| daftykin1 | 13:35 < daftykins> it has a couple of routing changes that i'd bet will come in handy, i didn't ask which release you've got on there either | 12:42 |
| daftykin1 | oh they've done a new one for xenial - https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-16-04 | 12:43 |
| daftykin1 | i've always followed the trusty one, personally | 12:43 |
| Azelphur | daftykin1: yea, I don't need to set up a server, I already have one rented :) | 12:43 |
| daftykin1 | Azelphur: no look at the config, the guide is about the OS - not their service | 12:44 |
| daftykin1 | focus, people | 12:44 |
| Azelphur | I see | 12:44 |
| daftykin1 | check out step 7 | 12:45 |
| === Chrisfu- is now known as Chrisfu | ||
| === daftykin1 is now known as daftykins | ||
| daftykins | if those edits don't work, whatever your VPS is using must have modified packages | 12:48 |
| daftykins | physical trusty server i have at a clients failed to come back after rebooting it for a new kernel again, it only ever happens if i'm not there... if i am on-site to reboot it, it's always fine | 12:50 |
| zmoylan-pi | dancing frog problem http://www.retrologic.com/jargon/D/dancing-frog.html 'hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my rag time gal...' ♫ | 12:52 |
| Azelphur | daftykins: https://dpaste.de/S9Sw woo, I'm batman | 12:53 |
| === Dave_ is now known as Dave | ||
| Azelphur | VPN provider told me that was impossible | 12:53 |
| zmoylan-pi | looks like patrick stewarts twitter has been hacked | 12:55 |
| daftykins | "VPN provider" o0 | 12:56 |
| daftykins | i thought you were hosting it :P | 12:56 |
| Azelphur | lol | 12:56 |
| daftykins | so it's also debian and you asked here | 12:56 |
| Azelphur | daftykins: nope, not hosting | 12:56 |
| Azelphur | daftykins: also nope, not debian, Deluged package for Ubuntu creates the user debian-deluged and runs it under that. | 12:57 |
| daftykins | oh i thought you were saying you'd fixed it but i don't follow the relevance of the paste | 12:57 |
| Azelphur | daftykins: I have fixed it, I can now select which traffic goes through the VPN and which doesn't | 12:58 |
| daftykins | yeah my guide link had relevant params to that methinks | 12:58 |
| Azelphur | I see :) | 12:59 |
| daftykins | per user or per process could be fun though | 12:59 |
| Azelphur | well I'm happy anyway, been stabbing at this one for days | 12:59 |
| daftykins | seriously? | 12:59 |
| daftykins | ouch :P | 12:59 |
| Azelphur | yea | 12:59 |
| Azelphur | I can do per-user, per process, whatever really now | 12:59 |
| Azelphur | just iptables mark it | 12:59 |
| daftykins | here's a funny one i had a bit ago, my OpenVPN setup on a DO VPS died, couldn't understand why it wasn't working - turned out i'd accidentally booted a 32-bit kernel on a 64-bit host a while back, so it was unable to load the kernel modules to have the routing rules in \o/ | 13:00 |
| Azelphur | haha | 13:00 |
| daftykins | they've since realised they can't keep up with kernel updates though and have just implemented a GRUB loader to load the default you have installed on the virtual disk | 13:00 |
| Brebblella | Hi, I've installed ubuntu, changed to XFCE, but the nm-applet is missing from the indicator panel. nm-applet appears to be loaded, and a notification pops up saying there are wifi networks to connect to, but it's not in the indicator area. Any ideas? | 15:14 |
| Brebblella | Nada? Google is no help :( | 15:21 |
| === webpigeon_ is now known as webpigeon | ||
| daftykins | they always wait so long | 16:27 |
| diddledan | so so long | 16:28 |
| daftykins | diddledan: played with yonder Nexus 5x HDR - http://imgur.com/a/KhmYP | 17:15 |
| diddledan | :-) | 17:17 |
| diddledan | https://twitter.com/swiftonsecurity/status/774312067297718272 | 18:18 |
| daftykins | so who had their Asda online shopping cancelled today? :O | 20:17 |
| diddledan | were they having problems? | 20:21 |
| daftykins | apparently a glitch cancelled 15% of weekend orders! | 20:22 |
| diddledan | oops | 20:23 |
| brobostigon | https://open.spotify.com/track/1pHVfiNHMMZYquR35fTZdM :) | 20:26 |
| brobostigon | for my fiance, https://open.spotify.com/track/5js1JJOAkR5KwlifBpvHMN | 20:28 |
| * daftykins doesn't use streaming services | 20:31 | |
| * brobostigon is reluactant, but does. | 20:32 | |
| daftykins | reason i mention is last time i clicked a link i don't think it even told me what the track was | 20:36 |
| brobostigon | for a very good reason that song, :'( | 20:37 |
| daftykins | oh it does, good ol' Queen | 20:37 |
| daftykins | oh, how's she doing? | 20:37 |
| brobostigon | days of our lives, queen | 20:37 |
| * brobostigon will no longer be a father, <= 4 weeks ago. | 20:39 | |
| daftykins | :( sorry to hear | 20:39 |
| brobostigon | i am sorry too, :'( | 20:40 |
| brobostigon | i have played loads of piano and drums and written music. | 20:41 |
| daftykins | ah neat | 20:42 |
| daftykins | hope it helps! | 20:42 |
| brobostigon | we will see. | 20:42 |
| brobostigon | it would help if i could write in piano notation, and not just precussion notation. | 20:44 |
| brobostigon | percussion* | 20:45 |
| daftykins | alien world to me, that one | 20:49 |
| brobostigon | its still alien to me, and i have played the drums for ten years plus. | 20:50 |
| brobostigon | how could i emulate a synthasiser on a normal computer? | 21:09 |
| daftykins | hmm | 21:16 |
| daftykins | http://linuxsynths.com/ o0 | 21:17 |
| daftykins | https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/natty/zynaddsubfx/ haha natty | 21:18 |
| daftykins | that was ~11.04? | 21:18 |
| brobostigon | was what i just found too. :) | 21:21 |
| daftykins | is it still current? i almost ran !info against it | 21:22 |
| brobostigon | no idea. | 21:23 |
| brobostigon | something that i could map synth keys to my keyboard keys would be good. | 21:25 |
| rainbowwarrior | hello | 21:25 |
| daftykins | hi | 21:29 |
| daftykins | how's it going, rainbowwarrior? | 21:29 |
| rainbowwarrior | hi daffykins ok ty and you ? | 21:32 |
| rainbowwarrior | oops typo | 21:32 |
| daftykins | yep all good ta :) relaxing evening here | 21:33 |
| === Myrtti_ is now known as Myrtti | ||
| m0nkey_ | wait. what? | 21:40 |
| m0nkey_ | I don't need rEFInd anymore to boot Ubuntu as a solo OS on a Mac? | 21:40 |
| diddledan | m0nkey_: haven't needed it for years | 21:43 |
| diddledan | m0nkey_: just bless the refi loader | 21:43 |
| diddledan | refi* | 21:43 |
| m0nkey_ | I didn't even bless the loader | 21:43 |
| diddledan | efi* damn autocorrect | 21:43 |
| daftykins | crikey. | 21:43 |
| diddledan | yeah I think the installer can do the bless itself now, too | 21:44 |
| daftykins | m0nkey_: it's still a mac though, can't help with that ;D | 21:44 |
| m0nkey_ | Rather have Ubuntu than macos on it | 21:44 |
| daftykins | oh agreed, but rather any hardware than that, i mean ;) | 21:44 |
| daftykins | talk of the devil, they're releasing more on Thursday | 21:44 |
| m0nkey_ | it's a laptop from 2012, i'm not replacing it until it dies | 21:44 |
| diddledan | m0nkey_: mine is a late 2012 mbp | 21:45 |
| * diddledan finds the model number | 21:45 | |
| m0nkey_ | mine is a 2012 i5 air | 21:45 |
| diddledan | oh, early 2013 | 21:45 |
| diddledan | MacBookPro10,2 | 21:45 |
| daftykins | diddledan: have you reclaimed your little soldier yet? | 21:46 |
| diddledan | yup | 21:46 |
| diddledan | I'm on it now | 21:46 |
| * daftykins instantly regrets that phrasing | 21:46 | |
| diddledan | lol | 21:46 |
| daftykins | don't you have a vastly superior spec desktop? | 21:46 |
| diddledan | yes | 21:46 |
| diddledan | :-p | 21:46 |
| brmbrmcar | i don't like apple | 22:02 |
| brmbrmcar | osx<windows<linux | 22:03 |
| daftykins | nah see that's a daft claim | 22:05 |
| daftykins | the only real answer is they all suck, but we pick the ones we either get paid to deal with, or the ones we mind picking up after the least | 22:05 |
| zmoylan-pi | even if i am paid to deal with it i have no respect or admiration for windows | 22:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | it's just a constant battle of wills with a big pile of poo... | 22:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | i've had mac, i've given up on mac... linux is all that remains | 22:12 |
| daftykins | zmoylan-pi: we should make a card game about IT support situations | 22:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | i think i've seen some... | 22:13 |
| daftykins | i could put "compiling a compatible wifi driver module" on one, then you respond with a Windows quip | 22:13 |
| daftykins | and we keep going 'til we're out of ideas :> | 22:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | a drive 200miles to disover muppet didn't plug in pc, lose 3 turns... | 22:14 |
| daftykins | XD | 22:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | discover customers new pc is just a monitor, transfer them to sales, get cut of commission 20 shekels | 22:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | discover that customer can't connect to wifi as they have no wifi and have been using neighbours for 5 years till they changed password. lose 1 turn explaining to them that they have to sign up with an isp and wait for installation | 22:17 |
| zmoylan-pi | it would really be just a list of some of my weirder problems... :-) | 22:18 |
| popey | there really is a game in this | 22:18 |
| zmoylan-pi | so i'd see it as a card game with players been developers/admins/managers each with abilities taking turns... | 22:21 |
| zmoylan-pi | a manager would hold all the cards but could only play 1 due to short attention span... :-) | 22:21 |
| daftykins | :D | 22:22 |
| daftykins | although he or she could also defuse an employee with management phrases | 22:23 |
| zmoylan-pi | management would also have less turns as they were tied up in meetings all the time... | 22:23 |
| zmoylan-pi | so it would have goals for money, life, career. developers obviously score badly when trying to get a life or money... | 22:24 |
| zmoylan-pi | and every time a chance card turns up a new language/platform they'd lose money time having to invest time/money investigating it... :-) | 22:25 |
| daftykins | you should put romance in, then you can do the Star Trek thing of love always losing out to career | 22:25 |
| daftykins | "well i love you, but i just got promoted to this far off station in the ass-end of nowhere" | 22:26 |
| daftykins | *credits roll* | 22:26 |
| zmoylan-pi | get a job were you can telecommute, win the game... :-) goals for developers | 22:27 |
| daftykins | ooh that sounds like what we should call it | 22:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | get a job were you are allowed use a cattle prod on users goals for admins | 22:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | get a job were you can get drunk as a skunk at lunch, goals for managers | 22:28 |
| * zmoylan-pi will have a sniff around gaelcon this weekend and have a look at the card games and see if anything seems like a platform for this... | 22:30 | |
| daftykins | \o/ | 22:32 |
| daftykins | fame is within reach | 22:32 |
| zmoylan-pi | a card reading. a nutter named daftykins on irc helps you fix managers desktop in record time, get a backhander bonus 10 shekels and draw another 2 cards | 22:33 |
| m0nkey_ | hmm | 22:48 |
| m0nkey_ | networkmanager doesn't always show the correct wifi status after sleep | 22:48 |
| diddledan | my desktop has an issue with network manager - it loses it's ip4 address shortly after boot up but ip6 stays active | 22:48 |
| diddledan | it does it in both 16.04 and 16.10 | 22:49 |
| m0nkey_ | network for me comes up | 22:49 |
| m0nkey_ | just shows the network is offline | 22:49 |
| daftykins | is it not trying to get a lease again? | 23:03 |
| diddledan | seems not | 23:03 |
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