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lfaraonecyphermox: can you push the latest  version of `initramfs-tools` to git.launchpad.net? last I see is 0.125ubuntu2; yakkety has 0.125ubuntu503:08
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cpaelzergood morning05:47
pittiGood morning06:09
ginggsmorning pitti: does openmpi need a hint to run autopkgtests with gerris 20131206+dfsg-11ubuntu1 ?07:15
pittiginggs: yes, presumably; I'll try the same for vtk607:18
pittihalf of the perl stuff will be the same I figure07:19
ginggspitti: thanks. do you know if there is anything different about the s390x environment for running autopkgtests?07:19
pittiginggs: i386/amd64/ppc64el are running in nova instances, i. e. QEMU; armhf  runs in lxd containers, s390x runs in lxc containers07:20
pittithere's some work to move s390x into scalingstack, i. e. to provide full VMs; but until that, we use some hand-crafted setup07:20
ginggshmm, because I still see an error on s390x, which looks like the error when trying to run mpi programs in a chroot07:22
pittiginggs: does it happen on armhf too?07:22
ginggsno, only s390x07:23
pittilxc and lxd are not that much different wrt. isolation -- if anything, there should be *more* problems on lxd as it uses user containers which are a bit more "strange"07:23
ginggspitti: would you ignore the s390x result for now, or should I try to work around that?07:25
pittiginggs: for which package? (presumably I would ignore it, yes)07:25
ginggspitti: sorry, still on gerris07:25
pittiginggs: ah, yes; I'm currently doing a mass-retry against -proposed (for the perl transition and also your's) and once that settles I'll go through excuses.html and sort out the rest07:26
cpaelzerdoko: I'd work on merging latest dovecot in zesty if you are ok with that08:06
cpaelzerIIRC last time we did that at the same time :-/, so double worth to ask this time08:06
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LocutusOfBorghi juliank does python-apt needs some updates for zesty?http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/p/python-apt/zesty/i38608:40
LocutusOfBorgand pitti fixed it ^^08:41
LocutusOfBorgso, underscore testsuite has to run against python-apt/proposed08:41
pittiLocutusOfBorg: or rather, I'll let p-apt land, and retry the failures afterwards08:48
pittibut the queue is hopelessly long right now (I didn't even submit the non-s390x retries for perl), so settling this will still take a while08:48
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juliankThis whole copy-last-distribution-and-change-name thing is a bit annoying.08:50
cpaelzerdoko: almost forgot - please ignore my former question I was looking at X instead of Y changelog08:59
pittijuliank: couldn't this be derived from distro-info-data somehow?09:15
LocutusOfBorgpitti, syncpackage distro-info-data?09:16
juliankWell, it could be merged into that09:17
pittiLocutusOfBorg: yep, indeed; doing09:17
juliankpython-apt also keeps around mirror lists, information about components09:17
juliankAnd translate user-visible names for components and suites09:17
pitti$ distro-info -f --devel09:18
pittiUbuntu 17.04 "Zesty Zapus"09:18
pittijuliank: yeah, the "supported/unsupported/partner" bits are not there indeed09:18
juliankStuff like -proposed => Pre-released updates, -backports => Unsupported updates09:18
pittijuliank: but given that the only kind of information I poured into the above upload was to s/16.10/17.04/, s/yakkety/zesty/ and s/Yakkety Yak/Zesty Zapus/, this is all in d-i-d09:19
LocutusOfBorgta!09:19
juliankThat's true. All the other fields are defined per distribution though, and then you have ParentSuite and stuff. It would require a lot of work to more generically describe this thing in some kind of "default" section09:20
stefancthm... is launchpad known to be broken atm? cannot submit a new bug for inkscape09:24
juliankpff, it's broken half of the time I want to do stuff...09:27
stefanct:)09:27
juliank(gitlab is far worse)09:28
highvoltagegitlab.com was upgrading this morning but has been working fine for me since the last hour or so09:31
pittijuliank: right, some kind of "template" with macros for short/long name, version etc.09:36
juliankWell. gitlab is so busy it tends to send out emails or git hooks 30 minutes after the event09:36
highvoltagejuliank: yikes09:39
Son_GokuI've been okay on gitlab for the last hour or so09:52
Son_Gokupoking around with mir stuff09:53
pittixnox: your gerris retries should have used all-proposed=1..09:54
pittixnox: see conversation with ginggs earlier here09:54
Son_Gokujuliank, if I attach my own runner to my project, all of my issues tend to go away09:56
xnoxpitti, ah, true! how do i do all-proposed=1 in the url construct? &all-proposed=110:03
* xnox did not know there is all-proposed.10:03
xnoxpitti, what's up with s390x? it seems unusual that it has the highest queue length.10:03
pittixnox: I mass-retried perl with --all-proposed on it (but not the other arches yet as they still have too much to catch up with)10:04
xnoxah, i see.10:04
xnoxfair enough.10:04
pittixnox: I'm using some big hammers to try and get on top of the haskell+perl transitions10:04
xnoxpitti, could you ingoretest openmpi to let it through. It's actually good, and is holding up starting boost transition.10:09
xnoxunless it's two sizes too big of a hammer10:10
pittixnox: ok; seems vtk6 is a victim of some mysql uninstallability10:10
pittibut indeed at some point it's easier to fix the fallout after these huge chunks landed10:10
dokocpaelzer: please go ahead, the package belongs to the server team10:10
LocutusOfBorgthanks pitti10:14
LocutusOfBorgxnox, I did create a boost1.62 transition tracker, but I didn't fix it :/10:14
xnoxhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/boost1.62.html looks ok.10:14
pittixnox: openmpi hinted10:15
xnoxit's too early to upload boost-defaults pointing at 1.62, as I usually like to have the new boost migrated into the release pocket, to avoid huge build ups in -proposed.10:15
LocutusOfBorgxnox, this because you fixed it :) http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-transition-trackers/ubuntu-transition-tracker/configs/revision/43010:15
LaneyLocutusOfBorg: are you looking at mariadb ftbfs by any chance?10:17
LocutusOfBorgLaney, I don't know how to fix it :/10:18
LocutusOfBorgbut it is in the long todo10:18
pittixnox: hinted gerris/390x as well now, so hopefully openmpi should land in the next iteration10:48
xnoxwell. are all of these http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/openmpi.html in zesty-proposed and not in release? i guess i should check if these need fixing first.10:49
xnoxlooks like there are still 8 potentially outstanding packages which would still clog it up.10:49
pittixnox: ok, so s/land/not being blocked by tests/ :)10:50
xnoxor maybe the tracker is bad. i'm not sure why it's bad to depend on mpich1210:51
pittixnox: indeed, e. g. bagel is missing its s390x build10:51
xnox*** Error in `../TestSuite': malloc(): smallbin double linked list corrupted: 0x000002aa0fdda070 ***10:54
xnoxthen it got stuck, then killed.10:54
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ginggsxnox, pitti: tracker is bad, bagel builds with mpich not openmpi11:01
* xnox pushes tracker update.11:03
xnoxwell, we shall see what proposed-migration complains about now, if any.11:03
xnoxpitti, vtk6 should be hinted through, the only regression is known to pass with all-proposed.12:00
xnoxi would ask to hint boost1.60 over mongodb/armhf failure too. However, it does seem odd.12:01
xnoxditto boost1.6112:01
xnoxsigh12:01
xnoxthese three seem to be the ones that "Depends: openmpi" and thus block openmpi migrating.12:02
xnoxoh mongo ftbfs12:03
pittixnox: hinted liggghts/armhf12:05
xnoxfor mongo, i'm podering to sync the modern mongodb from experimental.12:06
xnoxbecause 2.6 is acient.12:06
xnoxeven juju-mongodb moved to 3.212:06
xnox2.6 has FTBFS in debian too.12:07
xnoxhttps://tracker.debian.org/news/794834 looks sensible12:07
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jbichaxnox: I think mongodb doesn't build on all the architectures these days but maybe that's ok?13:08
xnoxjbicha, it fails on armhf, and i think that's ok.13:11
jbichamongodb 2.6 is eol upstream this month: https://www.mongodb.com/support-policy13:13
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LocutusOfBorgjbicha, lirc is fine in Debian13:17
LocutusOfBorgtotem works now, just sync from experimental when possible13:18
jbichaLocutusOfBorg: thank you!13:18
LocutusOfBorgthanks to you, I plan to do a transition, it shoulnd't migrate without rebuilding reverse-dependencies13:18
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cariboudoko: infinity: mdeslaur: we have a potential fix for LP: #1584485 (libnss-winbind / libpam-winbind static libraries). Anyone interested in reviewing the patch ?14:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1584485 in samba (Ubuntu Yakkety) "Upgrading samba to latest security fixes together with winbind in nsswitch.conf can harm entire OS" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158448514:09
mdeslaurcaribou: you should ask someone from the SRU team14:10
cariboumdeslaur: well, yes, it will end-up on all releases so I guess that'd be better14:12
caribouapw: bdmurray: pitti: slangasek: ^^14:18
LocutusOfBorganybody wants to try the new sbuild? https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/costamagnagianfranco-ppa/+sourcepub/7059276/+listing-archive-extra14:30
sil2100doko: hey, do you have some gnat related knowledge? I stumbled upon some issues with gnat when trying to run dbusada tests or even no-change rebuild dbusada on powerpc, ppc64el and s390x14:31
pitticaribou: the patch itself is fairly straightforward (well, I'm completely unfamiliar with the build system, but it basically says "link this statically")14:31
pitticaribou: which seems reasonable, as long as it doesn't make it unreasonably large14:31
sil2100doko: would you be able to help me out? To me it looks like this might be some toolchain issue, but I don't know ada at all14:31
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cariboupitti: thanks for checking. I'll check the difference in size before uploading14:32
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cariboupitti: I was wondering if this would require a Break/Replace on the previous version. Don't think so but just want to be sure14:33
pitticaribou: no, I wouldn't know why14:33
cariboudidn't think so either, thanks14:33
infinitycaribou: A breaks/replaces against what? :P14:50
infinitycaribou: $package implicitly breaks/replaces/conflicts $package, cause, well, it's the same package.14:51
dokosil2100: no, you didn't tell about the issue you have :-/14:51
caribouinfinity: B/R are still kind of nebulous to me so I'm always a bit worried to miss them14:51
caribouinfinity: still needs to do the readings you suggested14:51
dokois there a replacement for iptraf?14:51
infinitycaribou: So, the thing I'd like to see (once this is tested to DTRT, etc) is something upstreamable and upstreamed, so we don't have to carry a hideous patch forever.14:53
infinitycaribou: Given the intense upgrade pain, I'm firmly of the belief here that if the rest of samba is linked dynamically (which is a reasonable option), those two bits should still always be static.14:54
caribouinfinity: understood, I've already asked for the WAF customization to be upstreamed14:54
infinitycaribou: So, the option should be there upstream to do it at the flick of a switch, and said switch should be proposed as the default (though if we have to differ with a --configure-option, so be it)14:54
caribouinfinity: for the rest, they already stated that those should be packaged with samba-libs14:55
caribouinfinity: here is the ML thread : https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2016-October/116619.html14:56
infinitycaribou: Hrm.  Indeed, shipping them in samba-libs with the libnss/libpam packages only providing the config glue would work too.15:00
infinitycaribou: That could be the path of least pain if upstream isn't keen on the static approach.15:01
caribouinfinity: I still keep this in my LoS anyway15:02
infinitycaribou: The pam and nss modules are tiny, so that approach wouldn't bug me too much.15:02
caribouk15:02
infinityAnd they'd be inert by default if we keep the configuration bits in the libpam-foo/libnss-foo packages.15:03
caribouinfinity: there is a debian bug opened for that too, I'll bring it up there15:03
infinityThat seems to me a reasonable solution.  Wish I'd thought of it before I sent you down the static rabbit hole. :P15:03
caribouinfinity: I learned a lot during the fall :)15:03
infinityWell, not a total loss then. ;)15:04
infinityTHis would effectively just be a 4-line patch to the current packaging.15:04
infinityie: remove the modules from the module packages, install them in the libs package, done.15:05
infinitycaribou: Of course, it gets a bit more complex, because both also depend on libwbclient0, which should probably just move to samba-libs.15:08
sil2100doko: yeah, sorry, got preempted by a meetings - the issues I see are that when gnatbind-6 runs, it gets a lot of errors like: '"somethingsomething.adb" must be recompiled ("system.ads" has been modified)'15:29
dokosil2100: get things resolved when packages are rebuilt?15:39
sil2100doko: I saw that system.ads is part of gnat-6, not sure what they mean - since all those 'somethingsomething.ads' files seem to get built on during package build15:39
sil2100No, a no-change rebuild of dbusada ends up with such a failure on the 3 arches, example log:15:40
sil2100https://launchpadlibrarian.net/290714344/buildlog_ubuntu-zesty-s390x.dbusada_0.3.3-1build1~test1_BUILDING.txt.gz15:40
sil2100There are also some 'obsolete' errors there for dependent libraries I guess, but the system.ads ones worry me the most15:40
sil2100Similar issues when running dbusada autopkgtests15:41
dokosil2100: looks like you need to rebuild dbusads's deps. you may want to ask the debian-ada team about it. I would have to do the same here15:42
sil2100doko: ACK15:43
LocutusOfBorgpitti, do you know why the new sbuild picks up dose and fails?15:51
LocutusOfBorgit is here btw https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/costamagnagianfranco-ppa15:54
slangasekinfinity, kees, mdeslaur, stgraber: TB meeting in 3?15:57
infinityslangasek, stgraber, ... WHAT HE SAID.15:57
mdeslaurslangasek: ack15:57
slangasek:)15:57
slangasekI notice the agenda wasn't updated15:57
slangasekour next meeting is probably not Oct 11, 201615:58
infinityPotentially not.15:58
infinityBut I'm likely the chair, since I wasn't there on the 11th.15:59
infinitySo, meh.15:59
rbasakIs anyone SRUing debootstrap to yakkety?16:17
rbasakI hear that powersj has volunteered if not.16:18
rbasakDoes this need an SRU bug?16:18
rbasakLooks like there have been SRU bugs in teh past.16:19
rbasakarges, apw: ^?16:19
apwrbasak, it would probabally want an SRU bug ... for tracking i'd say16:20
apwi am not myself sru'ing it16:21
rbasakpowersj: ^ all yours.16:26
powersjok16:27
powersjthx!16:27
rbasakpowersj: if you create the debootstrap and assign yourself, hopefully that'll flag a lock to others.16:27
rbasakthe debootstrap bug16:27
powersjok16:27
LocutusOfBorgjbicha, pretty please, upload this lirc https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/debhelper16:57
LocutusOfBorgthere is a typo that prevents smooth upgrades from debian16:57
LocutusOfBorgfrom xenial/yakkety I mean16:57
jbichaLocutusOfBorg: why don't you upload that to experimental and we can sync from there?17:01
LocutusOfBorgjbicha, because the current one is broken17:01
LocutusOfBorgI want to fix it and in the meanwhile I already asked the maintainer to fix it17:01
LocutusOfBorgsorry, but it landed on -release, so I broke upgrade path17:02
* LocutusOfBorg is doing rebuilds of reverse dependencies right now17:02
jbichathose running zesty already should expect some breakage17:02
LocutusOfBorgjbicha, I prefer not from me  :)17:02
LocutusOfBorgbut as you wish17:02
LocutusOfBorgI might upload it tonight in debian, so expect a sync request tomorrow17:02
LocutusOfBorgthat version fixes totem and upgrade path, this is why I prefer to see it uploaded right now, but one day might not make much difference17:03
jbichaLocutusOfBorg: ok I uploaded it for you :)17:08
LocutusOfBorgthanks, in the meanwhile I'm doing test rebuilds, and in case I'll upload a -3 in Debian with some build-fixes if there are some17:09
LocutusOfBorgI don't have hurry now :)17:09
jbichatoo bad we didn't see that an hour or two ago before it migrated to -release17:09
LocutusOfBorgyep indeed17:12
LocutusOfBorgstupid typo17:12
LocutusOfBorgand people are running upgrades from sid to experimental, not sure why they didn't open a bug17:12
LocutusOfBorgjbicha, debian is not broken, because by chance, the library wasn't in multiarch location before, so the clash has been funnily avoided17:19
LocutusOfBorgloool17:19
LocutusOfBorgubuntu had a multiarch location, so the path didn't change17:19
LocutusOfBorg:)17:19
LocutusOfBorgI see ~5 reverse-dependencies failing to rebuild, will look at them17:19
jbichait looks like you don't have -proposed enabled for that ppa17:21
jdstrandtyhicks: fyi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1580463/comments/2919:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1580463 in im-config (Ubuntu Xenial) "Snap blocks access to system input methods (ibus, fcitx, ...)" [Medium,Fix committed]19:44
tyhicksjdstrand: thanks! I'm hoping to do the apparmor testing by EOD19:45
jdstrandgood timing then :)19:46
jbichabdmurray: so webkit2gtk/yakkety is being blocked because of phased updates20:11
jbichahttps://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/31f280fa5539449d440e411a60b92bb28e48e41b has the same title at least as20:12
jbichahttps://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/53de313c8e0c7a05c093808248f8ce1ab17a1f21 (except the first is i386 and the second is amd64)20:12
jbichabut the amd64 bug was found in the older webkit2gtk20:13
bdmurrayjbicha: Okay, I'll get that error taken care of, what about https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/18b5e69225bd63387d958707585693d52919b7c4? Its curious there aren't any crashes with 2.14.0-1.20:16
jbichabdmurray: I don't know; I do know that the update fixes some crash bugs and I'm hoping it fixes more crashes than it creates :|20:18

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