[09:36] <Blackisle> morning
[10:38] <Blackisle> quick question - was "ping" removed from the 16.10 standard install??
[10:49]  * JockeTF doesn't know, but it is easy to install should you need it.
[10:55] <Blackisle> just surprised that something as basic as ping wouldn't be included. apt install inetutils-ping is simple, agreed
[11:01] <JockeTF> Blackisle: Yeah, I could see it being removed from the core version, but not the desktop one.
[11:54] <wyre> anyone know what packages should I hold with apt-mark in a persisten usb iso?
[12:52] <jbicha> Blackisle: ubuntu-minimal depends on iputils-ping so yeah, it's installed by default
[13:31] <LinDol> hi all
[14:18] <Blackisle> weird jbicha, I wonder why the ??-ping package was removed on the upgrade?
[14:18]  * Blackisle wanders off to find the upgrade log
[14:26] <Blackisle> http://pastebin.com/avDTV9Sw
[14:28] <Blackisle> am a fud
[14:28] <Blackisle> please ignore