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| smoser | o/ | 16:00 |
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| powersj | o/ | 16:00 |
| cpaelzer | o/ | 16:00 |
| jgrimm | o/ | 16:02 |
| powersj | ok let's get started and see who else drops in | 16:02 |
| powersj | #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team | 16:03 |
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| caribou | o/ | 16:03 |
| powersj | #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 16:03 |
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| powersj | (jamespage) checkin with old iscsitarget users on relevancy with new kernels | 16:03 |
| powersj | jgrimm: any update here? | 16:03 |
| jgrimm | openstack summit this week | 16:03 |
| powersj | ah yes | 16:03 |
| powersj | leave on for one more week? | 16:03 |
| jgrimm | sure. i don't have any context on that item, but we can do over email if needed | 16:04 |
| powersj | (cpaelzer) investigating severity of issues covered by qemu 2.5. stable releases and ask other Teams on | 16:04 |
| cpaelzer | yo | 16:05 |
| cpaelzer | all the Crits in the delta from us to the latest stable were already covered by the security Team | 16:05 |
| cpaelzer | I got some feedback | 16:05 |
| cpaelzer | all that I got referred to cases where doing it pro-actively broke stuff | 16:05 |
| cpaelzer | so I guess the consensus is - unless we have any reason to do so we keep it as is | 16:05 |
| cpaelzer | there are about two in there which could be considered "high" but it depends so much on the particular setup that it is hard to rate "comunity wide" | 16:06 |
| cpaelzer | so TL;DR - not bringing in 2.5.1.1 proactively | 16:06 |
| cpaelzer | powersj: that item done, ready for the next if there are now further questions | 16:07 |
| powersj | #done cpaelzer investigating severity of issues covered by qemu 2.5. stable releases and ask other Teams on their input | 16:07 |
| powersj | cpaelzer will try to ask Stephen Hemminger for more data on the netdev presentation | 16:07 |
| cpaelzer | yeah that is the next one | 16:07 |
| cpaelzer | I met him, and not only asked but discussed in detail | 16:07 |
| cpaelzer | while this was an entertaining discussion there isn't much he could share that would help us to identify new issues or address them | 16:08 |
| cpaelzer | but | 16:08 |
| cpaelzer | I found good contact in Intel for openvswitch dpdk and at least for that will work on analyzing some East/West Traffic issues that our Testing in regard to ovs-DPDK inveiled in the last dev cycle | 16:08 |
| cpaelzer | any questions on that? | 16:09 |
| cpaelzer | powersj: you have the timout duty to call it none, mark it done and go on | 16:09 |
| powersj | #done cpaelzer will try to ask Stephen Hemminger for more data on the netdev presentation | 16:09 |
| powersj | powersj to update agenda to remove yakkety add in zesty | 16:09 |
| powersj | #done powersj to update agenda to remove yakkety add in zesty | 16:09 |
| powersj | that's all the action items, moving on | 16:10 |
| powersj | #topic Zesty Development | 16:10 |
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| powersj | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseSchedule | 16:10 |
| cpaelzer | the page doesn't exist yet | 16:10 |
| jgrimm | heh | 16:10 |
| cpaelzer | But I'm sure your link will be correct one day | 16:10 |
| powersj | Yeah I just changed yakkety -> zesty | 16:10 |
| cpaelzer | one thing on zesty dev | 16:10 |
| cpaelzer | I just discussed with rbasak on that earlier today | 16:10 |
| cpaelzer | there is no debootstrap for zesty yet | 16:11 |
| cpaelzer | that means you can hardly (only with workarounds) do sbuild, autopkgtest and such | 16:11 |
| cpaelzer | the TL;DR of our discussion was that zesty atm should be considered only "somewhat open" for development | 16:11 |
| cpaelzer | until that shows up in backports for your release - likely Xenial/Yakkety | 16:12 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: andyinth to add? | 16:12 |
| cpaelzer | "anything" | 16:12 |
| rbasak | No, that covers it. | 16:12 |
| rbasak | It'll probably be in updates rather than backports. | 16:12 |
| cpaelzer | true | 16:12 |
| cpaelzer | ok, just thought worth to mention it here for all | 16:12 |
| jgrimm | thanks, i hadn't known that. :( | 16:12 |
| cpaelzer | jgrimm: you can just fire and forget upload - but if you like testing before :-) | 16:13 |
| powersj | is it on us or foundations or other to get that updated? | 16:13 |
| * rharper joins late | 16:13 | |
| cpaelzer | on foundation I think, the question is if we could get a hook somewhere to be notified once it is ready to go - and maybe an ETA | 16:13 |
| rbasak | AFAICT, it usually happens when some developer gets fed up and JFDI | 16:14 |
| rbasak | I don't think anyone would object if one of us did the update. | 16:14 |
| rbasak | (though do coordinate in #ubuntu-devel to avoid duplicate effort, etc) | 16:14 |
| jgrimm | would be good to know if its on someone's plate already/eta | 16:15 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: you likely have the best connections - would you reach out to them for the question of jgrimm? | 16:16 |
| rbasak | ack | 16:16 |
| rbasak | Is it just debootstrap? | 16:17 |
| * powersj wonders how hard a symlink + change log entry could be ;) | 16:17 | |
| rbasak | powersj: it's not hard in the slightest - just needs someone to do it :) | 16:17 |
| cpaelzer | powersj: quite often the devil is in the detail | 16:17 |
| powersj | if I hear no movement I may just try | 16:17 |
| cpaelzer | powersj: wait until rbasak pings us after inquiring maybe? | 16:18 |
| powersj | yeah | 16:18 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: you could drop whatever you find out to server-dev list or such - ok ? | 16:18 |
| rbasak | ack | 16:18 |
| powersj | alright, any other topics for zesty dev? | 16:18 |
| powersj | #subtopic Release Bugs | 16:19 |
| powersj | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-y-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server | 16:19 |
| jgrimm | nacc has imported a bunch of server packages | 16:19 |
| jgrimm | he's out today | 16:19 |
| powersj | ah yes! | 16:19 |
| powersj | I'll capture in notes | 16:19 |
| jgrimm | basically pre-imported list of server packages that are out of date wrt upstream version | 16:20 |
| cpaelzer | I'm on the dovecot one and about 5 others, but while a lot of work non is like exploding the system for anybody | 16:20 |
| powersj | anything else? | 16:21 |
| jgrimm | #link https://code.launchpad.net/~usd-import-team/+git | 16:21 |
| powersj | thx! | 16:21 |
| jgrimm | that's all i had | 16:21 |
| cpaelzer | did my first re-merge | 16:21 |
| cpaelzer | using the toolchain | 16:21 |
| cpaelzer | so far I could fix all I needed together with nacc | 16:21 |
| jgrimm | nish still owes an email out to ml | 16:21 |
| * smoser started a mega-import to see failures | 16:22 | |
| cpaelzer | smoser: did that mean many imports or a packet with weird and huge history? | 16:22 |
| smoser | using https://gist.github.com/smoser/4c5480b3c98c37a4eff0715e51f2c27b | 16:22 |
| jgrimm | always gotta break things | 16:22 |
| smoser | just started top to bottom alpha on main | 16:22 |
| jgrimm | :) | 16:22 |
| cpaelzer | hehe | 16:23 |
| smoser | lots of network errors :-( | 16:23 |
| smoser | and then https://bugs.launchpad.net/usd-importer/+bug/1636529 | 16:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1636529 in usd-importer "UnicodeDecodeError on package gmp and others" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:23 |
| cpaelzer | you did that DDOS last week with all the git traffic :-P | 16:23 |
| powersj | anything else? | 16:24 |
| jgrimm | that's all i have | 16:24 |
| powersj | #topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (caribou) | 16:24 |
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| powersj | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server | 16:24 |
| caribou | on a personal note, waiting for upstream ACK of a patch so makedumpfile works on 4.8 kernels again | 16:24 |
| smoser | cpaelzer, i wasnt pushing anything . just locally. | 16:24 |
| caribou | and now adding a new segment to our weekly broadcast : Current SRU being worked on | 16:25 |
| caribou | LP: #1626258 [SRU] AttributeError: 'Requirement' object has no attribute 'project_name' | 16:25 |
| caribou | - Uploaded to Z; X & Y to follow | 16:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1626258 in python-pip (Ubuntu Zesty) "[SRU] AttributeError: 'Requirement' object has no attribute 'project_name'" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1626258 | 16:25 |
| caribou | LP: #1621835 multipathd reconfigure does not update /etc/multipath/wwids file on trusty | 16:25 |
| caribou | - Waiting on verification | 16:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1621835 in multipath-tools (Ubuntu Trusty) "multipathd reconfigure does not update /etc/multipath/wwids file on trusty" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1621835 | 16:25 |
| caribou | btw, do you want them all in sequence or wait if discussion is needed ? | 16:25 |
| caribou | LP: #1587261 [SRU] Swift bucket X-Timestamp not set by Rados Gateway | 16:26 |
| caribou | - Reviewing patch, preparing upload to Z | 16:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1587261 in ceph (Ubuntu Zesty) "[SRU] Swift bucket X-Timestamp not set by Rados Gateway" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1587261 | 16:26 |
| caribou | well, this one is more about openstack though | 16:26 |
| caribou | LP: #1584485 Upgrading samba to latest security fixes together with winbind in nsswitch.conf can harm entire OS | 16:26 |
| caribou | - Preparing upload to Z, X & Y to follow | 16:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1584485 in samba (Ubuntu Yakkety) "Upgrading samba to latest security fixes together with winbind in nsswitch.conf can harm entire OS" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1584485 | 16:26 |
| jgrimm | caribou, i appreciate this. good to know about | 16:26 |
| caribou | so these are all our current SRUs | 16:26 |
| caribou | anything that the server team want to bring attention on ? (SRU wise I mean) | 16:27 |
| caribou | (done) | 16:27 |
| cpaelzer | sooner or later that will be an SRU bug 1633220 | 16:27 |
| ubottu | bug 1633220 in dovecot (Ubuntu Yakkety) "Dovecot panics when sieve filter outputs much data" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1633220 | 16:27 |
| * powersj will be filing SRU for debootstrap | 16:28 | |
| caribou | cpaelzer:we'll be keeping an eye on the release bug report | 16:28 |
| powersj | anything else for caribou? | 16:29 |
| jgrimm | caribou, i have an SRU for multipath-tools that you may be interested in | 16:29 |
| jgrimm | caribou, (i also need a sponsor) given you have experience in that package | 16:29 |
| caribou | jgrimm: got a fix for it yet ? | 16:29 |
| jgrimm | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/multipath-tools/+bug/1611360 | 16:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1611360 in multipath-tools (Ubuntu Yakkety) "Xenial 32-bit: multipath exits with SIGSEGV" [High,In progress] | 16:29 |
| caribou | (multipath-tools changelog got my name all over the place) :) | 16:30 |
| jgrimm | caribou, already got it into zesty, just need a sponsor for xenial before it can move to sru team assist | 16:30 |
| caribou | jgrimm: I'll add it to our list to sponsor if you want | 16:31 |
| jgrimm | much appreciated if you have the time | 16:31 |
| jgrimm | caribou, cool! | 16:31 |
| caribou | jgrimm: ok, will do | 16:31 |
| powersj | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj) | 16:32 |
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| powersj | cloud-init integration testing is up on Jenkins with initial test lots of thanks to magicalChicken and his hard work. Plan is to focus on writing additional tests this week. | 16:32 |
| powersj | Some other work on Jenkins slaves, capturing work done in Yakkety cycle and Zesty task planning. | 16:32 |
| powersj | #link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/ | 16:32 |
| powersj | anything for me? | 16:32 |
| cpaelzer | powersj: don't forget me :-P | 16:33 |
| powersj | cpaelzer: haven't ;) | 16:33 |
| cpaelzer | powersj: no it's fine - finalize cloud-init and let me know once we make a nother turn on qemu then | 16:33 |
| powersj | I don't like seeing all that red, so I'm still looking | 16:33 |
| powersj | moving on | 16:34 |
| powersj | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee) | 16:34 |
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| smb | No smudged dairy animals this week. Noting else from us (kernel-team). Besides, next week we are at Linux Plumbers. | 16:34 |
| powersj | thx smb! anything else for kernel folks? | 16:34 |
| powersj | #topic Upcoming Call For Papers | 16:35 |
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| powersj | #link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/ | 16:35 |
| jgrimm | fosdem end of month, only thing i'm seeing | 16:36 |
| powersj | #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events | 16:37 |
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| jgrimm | OpenStack Summit, Linux Plumbers already mentioned, various folks attending both | 16:38 |
| powersj | #topic Open Discussion | 16:38 |
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| rbasak | Nobody is working on debootstrap | 16:39 |
| rbasak | So powersj is taking it. | 16:39 |
| rbasak | Thanks powersj! | 16:39 |
| jgrimm | rbasak, you'll sponsor? | 16:39 |
| * powersj may learn to keep his mouth shut ;) | 16:40 | |
| rbasak | Sure | 16:40 |
| jgrimm | rbasak, cool, tx | 16:40 |
| powersj | anything else? | 16:40 |
| jgrimm | smoser, cloud-init updates? | 16:41 |
| smoser | not a lot. i made a couple merges | 16:41 |
| smoser | still have some to do, and really wanting to try magicalChicken's integration test. | 16:41 |
| powersj | smoser: I proposed one to add coverage to unit tests | 16:42 |
| smoser | yeah, saw that. will look again. | 16:42 |
| powersj | ok thx | 16:42 |
| powersj | final comments? | 16:43 |
| jgrimm | smoser, i'm interested in snap-create-user support (rharper).. | 16:43 |
| smoser | it is in trunk now. | 16:43 |
| smoser | rharper and i working on getting an 'all-snap' image going. | 16:43 |
| rharper | sometime today if cloud-init daily ppa kicks off; I'll have a new core snap recipe building against cloud-init daily ppa | 16:44 |
| jgrimm | smoser, and https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1611074 | 16:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1611074 in cloud-init "Reformatting of ephemeral drive fails on resize of Azure VM" [High,Fix committed] | 16:44 |
| smoser | believed fixed in trunk | 16:44 |
| jgrimm | yeah, needs fixed in xenial tho | 16:44 |
| smoser | rharper, https://code.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/+archive/ubuntu/daily is seemingly good to go | 16:44 |
| rharper | cool, | 16:44 |
| rharper | I'll create the recipe for core snap to build against that daily | 16:45 |
| smoser | jgrimm, well, yes. i will look to update zesty today. | 16:45 |
| jgrimm | smoser, cool. tx | 16:45 |
| rharper | we've an almost fully working image for OpenStack; currently chasing down why we don't mount the boot partition properly; this prevents snapd from confirming that we booted into grub (or uboot); which blocked installing new snaps; a workaround is to bind mount it from where it got mounted | 16:45 |
| rharper | hoping to get an image booted in EC2 sometime today and update the status in the document | 16:46 |
| jgrimm | rharper, smoser \o/ | 16:46 |
| powersj | last call... | 16:47 |
| jgrimm | that's all for me | 16:47 |
| powersj | #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair | 16:48 |
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| powersj | Same time, same place with your host: beisner | 16:48 |
| powersj | #endmeeting | 16:48 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Oct 25 16:48:11 2016 UTC. | 16:48 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-10-25-16.03.moin.txt | 16:48 |
| powersj | o/ | 16:48 |
| jgrimm | thanks powersj | 16:48 |
| caribou | thanks! | 16:48 |
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