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Khar00fhonestly i don't understand why it's still not working00:00
Khar00fdo i have to create a password for smb users?00:01
kicksledKhar00f: what happens when you open the share and enter a username and password thats added to the group?00:01
Khar00fi saw some tutorials that said someting like smbpwd uid00:02
Khar00fit rejects my username00:02
Khar00fit just says invalid credentials00:02
kicksledhow does the global section in your smb.conf look?00:03
kicksledand yeah, "sudo smbpasswd -a <username>" lets you make a password for the user00:04
Khar00fso the users that are listed don't have any passwords right now is that why it's not working?00:05
Khar00fmy smb.conf is default00:05
Khar00fdin't hcange anything on it00:05
Khar00fthe only thing i added are the share sections at the end00:05
kicksledKhar00f: ok. add password for the user with the command above, that should solve it00:06
Khar00fi'll try it right away00:06
ksdfksdQuestion00:07
ksdfksdI have a laptop00:07
ksdfksdI want to isolate my aps from eachotehr00:07
ksdfksdhow would I go about this.00:07
ksdfksdI want something like Qubes but not Qubes00:07
Khar00fit worked00:09
Bray90820Can anyone help me with a wifi issue my tablet freezes every time I use a browser and this is the error I am getting00:09
Bray90820https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/IMAG0104.jpg00:09
Khar00fi dont' understand why on this page, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html there's no mention of the password command00:09
Khar00fi've been trying this for 2 days00:09
kk4ewtsamba can run its own password database00:10
kicksledKhar00f: glad you got it working00:10
Khar00fbut that's a pain, if you want your users to be able to use the shares, they have to remember their login info and their smb pwd, there should be a way to simply authenticate with system logons00:11
Khar00fbut anyways, at least it works, it's not a productive environment so it'll do for now00:11
Khar00fkicksled: thank you very much my friend00:11
Khar00fnext server, is webserver :)00:12
Khar00fmigrating all my servers from nas4free is longer than i thought00:12
kicksledksdfksd: check out subuser.org00:13
kicksledKhar00f: I can recommend the tutorials digitalocean has on setting up different server apps etc, well written stuff00:13
ksdfksdkicksled: neat00:14
Khar00fkk4ewt: you said "can run" does that mean there's a way to make it not to and instead use local userbase and passwords?00:14
kicksledksdfksd: something like that you're looking for?00:14
ksdfksdkicksled: thats exactly it.00:15
ksdfksdI wanted to lock down applications00:16
kicksledKhar00f: I belive the line "unix password sync = yes" in the global section of your smb.conf will solve the problem with 2 passwords00:16
ksdfksdkicksled: you know if I can lockdown it further?00:16
kicksledksdfksd: looks neat. haven't tried it out myself, but its based on docker as far as I know and docker is great00:17
kicksledksdfksd: they have a channel here on freenode, subuser00:21
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ksdfksdits dead00:21
kicksledksdfksd: ah, noticed that. since its based on docker maybe you'll have better luck finding articles on hardening docker, and can use that to also harden subuser00:22
kicksledKhar00f: let me know if that unix password sync line makes things easier for you regarding passwords00:23
ksdfksdkicksled: I might try out Qubes00:23
ksdfksdPart of the reasoning is to isolate personal from internet data00:23
ksdfksdso Freenode shouldn't be mixed with Facebook00:24
kicksledKhar00f: but you still need to add a smbpasswd for new users the first time. use same password as unix password, and after that it will update when user updates the unix password00:24
kicksledksdfksd: haven't tried Qubes, but yeah, it looks like it would do what you want.00:25
ksdfksdI'm split00:26
ksdfksdQubes or subuser.00:26
kicksledksdfksd: fire up a vm with Qubes and test it out, could do the same with subuser, test it out in a vm first and see what you like best00:27
ksdfksdI know my laptop is fully supported00:28
kicksledksdfksd: you could also check out https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/docker-containers-on-the-desktop/ a good read on gui apps with docker00:28
retrojeffroot@ubuntu[~]# telnet 185.61.138.17600:29
Castor_TI am trying to run this command and it is asking for installation CD. doesnt it get downloaded from internet? sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall00:29
kicksledksdfksd: and this for how to write the docker files etc http://fabiorehm.com/blog/2014/09/11/running-gui-apps-with-docker/00:30
Castor_Tfixed it by commenting cdrom line in source.list00:31
kicksledCastor_T: is main repository activated in software & updates?00:31
Castor_Tkicksled, I commented it now00:32
Castor_Tlooks like the main repository will get its data from cdrom00:32
ScriptonautHey all, I'm on ubuntu 16.10, and I can't find the fonts directory00:32
Scriptonautthere is no ~/.fonts, no /usr/local/share/fonts00:32
master_jisn't it usr/share/fonts ?00:35
Scriptonautoh, yes :)00:35
Scriptonautthanks00:35
master_jnp :)00:35
kicksledyeah00:35
sphrakHi, Im thinking about setting up a VM in VBox and then deploy it to an actual physical machine (server). But while this seems easy to do via various conversion methods and then write an image to a clean disk.. what are some caveats etc? anyone have experience with this?00:37
arooniit appears using sftp i cannot connect two instances to the same destination?  in this case id like to connect to the /Users/myusername directory as well as /Volumes/ExternalHardDrive (connecting to a mac mini)... ideas?  also is sftp == sshfs ?00:38
SchrodingersScatarooni: yes, as far as I know sshfs uses basically the same function as sftp, what error is it giving you?  I have to admit I haven't tried connecting two places at once.00:40
lordcirth_sphrak, that can work, but are you sure you need to?  Why not install it and then configure?00:40
SchrodingersScaton the same destination I mean, normally I mount my user directory or /00:40
arooniSchrodingersScat: doesnt give me an error message; but id like an easy way to navigate to say my home folder on my mac or the attached external hard drive00:41
arooniSchrodingersScat: when i double click the saved bookmark; it just mounts that location ; just moves from say my home dir to hard drive or vice versa00:41
lordcirth_arooni, do you want to mount the same remote in 2 places, or mount 2 remotes at the same place?00:41
aroonilordcirth_: well both remoters are the same host (mac mini) ;  they are just different destinations on the mini.  one home directory the other an external hard drive00:43
arooniboth remotes00:43
aroonisame remote in 2 places i suppose00:43
sphraklordcirth_: well its mostly because I want to avoid downtime, and also I have some stuff I need to migrate onto it. Im also thinking I might avoid going to the site and deploy it myself, this way I can just write an ssd with the image and mail it to the person that hosts it and make him replace the current system disk :-)00:43
lordcirth_sphrak, ah, long distance, I see.00:43
lordcirth_arooni, if you want the same remote in 2 places, symlink or bind mount, dont mount twice00:44
lordcirth_I mean, it should work, but it's messy00:44
kicksledsphrak: just make sure to test it a couple of times on a local machine before sending off and having downtime ;)00:44
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sphraklordcirth_: yes, what im worried about is drivers etc.. on the physical system.. will it be detected automatically once it boots up?00:45
sphrakkicksled: yes I will do plenty of testing before :)00:45
lordcirth_sphrak, if you don't have to install any drivers to make it work, then it will just work00:45
sphraklordcirth_: thats amazing really. well I dont, its playtime then :D00:46
lordcirth_Linux kernel autodetects everything every boot, normally00:46
sphraksounds rock solid by design, love that :D00:46
kicksledyeah, it should be somewhat straight forward migrating from a VM, just follow one of the write ups that you feel are detailed enough, and test a few times locally so you're confident you're getting it all right - and you should be ok :)00:47
floam412Hey can someone help me with a question about changing the password for root? If I use the top answer from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/294946/how-to-change-root-password-in-ubuntu ... does that change sudo and not my username password?00:47
sphrakkicksled: awesome, yes im starting now :D gonna be great to go from 12.04 to 16.04.00:48
kicksled16.04 is great00:48
kicksledrun a couple of 16.04 server instances myself, solid asf00:49
arooniwhat do you mean by bind mount00:49
sphrakkicksled: yes it is, the mysql installation bug appears to be solved aswell00:49
kicksledsphrak: yeah, I had no problems with mysql installation on 16.0400:50
kicksledstraight forward00:50
sphrakkicksled: on some testing machines prior to 16.04.1 the installation failed on me but it works great now. This gonn be a good night, coffee and sysinstall00:52
kicksledfloam412: root acount is locked on ubuntu desktop, just use sudo -i for a root shell.00:52
kicksledsphrak: what are the server for? :)00:52
kicksledsphrak: yeah, sysinstall on servers are good fun, at leat I think so :p00:53
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Khar00fkicksled: unfortunately it didn't work, i tried changing a user pwd and the smbpass didn't change00:55
Khar00feven after restarting the server00:56
terminalfactorexit00:56
Khar00fmaybe i'm using it wrong, but anyways not a big deal in my setup, just more convenient00:56
kicksledKhar00f: hmm. yeah, I haven't used it that way much myself, just tried it in testing. I like having it seperate, and also I'm the only user that needs access to the server, so other users only have the smbpasswd they need to remember :p00:57
twoddleHas anyone come across sound coming out laptop speakers, even when headphones are connected?00:58
ptx0twoddle: that's typically related to alsa jack sensing00:58
ptx0maybe your alsamixer will have switches to enable/disable speakers00:58
Castor_Troyhow to update path in ubuntu. I need to add a folder00:58
twoddleyeah, I can see autoswitch working in alsamixer00:59
twoddlebut sound still comes out lol00:59
Khar00fyeah, same here, like i said, it's not biggie on my setup, really only one user with write access00:59
kk4ewtCastor_Troy,  the same way you do in any version of linux00:59
twoddleits crazy. Ive gotten around it by attaching a DAC00:59
Khar00fthanks a lot for your help00:59
Castor_Troykk4ewt, thats the problem. i dont know how to do it in linux00:59
kicksledtwoddle: use lubuntu and pavucontrol myself, and have different ports for speakers and headset. if it don't change automatically I have to change it manually.01:00
kk4ewtCastor_Troy,  and google says01:00
kicksledKhar00f: no problem01:00
Castor_Troykk4ewt, the answers are confusing.01:00
Castor_Troyi will try again anyway01:00
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kk4ewtPATH=$PATH:newPath1:newPAth201:01
kk4ewtexport PATH01:01
Castor_Troyi am trying to edit the .bashrc file, will this work ?01:02
twoddleIve tried mutiple linux distros, and they all do it. This lalptop has 4 speakers (2 up front and 2 on rear) as its a 2 in 1. The sound is odd though, like it's just the left channel, thats coming out of both speakers01:02
kicksledCastor_Troy: is this what you're trying to do? http://askubuntu.com/questions/60218/how-to-add-a-directory-to-my-path01:03
Castor_Troyyes, thanks kicksled01:04
sphrakkicksled: the server is for owncloud which I use alot and also some file storage. Also host some websites aswell for fun01:04
kicksledCastor_Troy: no problem01:05
twoddlesecond question, is with screen rotation, as it isnt being detected. I'm using gnome; is there a gui that's tablet mode friendlier than gnome?01:05
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kicksledsphrak: ah, nice. have owncloud set up myself on a server. along with openvpn, my own wiki, rss feed etc. fun to play around with :)01:06
kicksledtwoddle: I guess unity perhaps? but haven't tried it myself01:07
sphrakkicksled: yes I have that aswell, mediawiki, and pi-hole setup for adblocking, also openvpn, both connected and as server. Use rss feeds via nextclouds news app, Have that aswell for testing01:07
floam412kicksled... so I tried that, and the password I usually use for sudo for some reason isn't working... would the password for su be the same as sudo or my regular username password by chance?01:08
kicksledfloam412: you can't su, but you can sudo -i for a root shell. if you for some reason want access to root, use sudo passwd to set a root passord. then you can su with that password in to root. but not recommended, I would just use sudo -i if I need a root shell and keep root account locked01:10
kicksledsphrak: cool. tried mediawiki myself, but was to comprehensive for what I needed. just needed something simple for my linux wiki stuff. use tiny tiny rss as rss feed, works great. easy set up and I like the UI01:11
sphrakkicksled: hmm what do you use for wiki then?01:11
sphrakI feel its quite extensive for my own purpose too.. might migrate once at it right hehe01:12
john52there is no way we can crack excel 2013 password ?01:12
kicksledsphrak: use get-simple, more a cms than a wiki, but I just call it my wiki :p01:12
floam412kicksled; so changing my root password to something random and long won't make my computer any more secure when it comes to preventing malware from getting at my computer?01:13
kicksledfloam412: all passwords should be long and random01:13
lordcirth_floam412, having login disabled is always more secure than even a good password, of course.01:13
floam412lol I know... but in this case, I feel that my current sudo password isn't long and random enough01:13
lordcirth_floam412, then fix that01:14
lordcirth_As a fun exercise, calculate how much entropy it has.01:14
kicksledfloam412: change your users password - best solution01:15
floam412so how would I go about fixing that exactly?  I'm confused because different stuff I'm reading says to do different things01:15
lordcirth_floam412, fixing what?01:15
kicksledsphrak: pi-hole looks interesting, need to check that out01:15
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lordcirth_kicksled, yeah I'm considering setting one up01:15
floam412like comparing to the first article I sent to this one... http://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Root-Password-in-Linux01:15
kicksledfloam412: keep root disabled and change the password for your user to something strong01:15
lordcirth_floam412, su uses root's password, which should be disabled01:16
lordcirth_sudo uses your user's password, so change that01:16
floam412ohhhh01:16
aroonican anyone help me set up NFS to connect from ubuntu ==> mac via NFS?01:17
floam412thanks guys01:17
kicksledno problem floam41201:17
lordcirth_arooni, ubuntu client?01:17
john52Hi there01:17
john52i am using hexchat to connect please help how can i join more group ?01:18
aroonilordcirth_: yes ubuntu is the client; connecting to mac os x;01:18
SchrodingersScatjohn52: /join #channel01:19
john52but it ask for registered01:19
john52?01:19
lordcirth_!register | john5201:19
ubottujohn52: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode01:19
lordcirth_arooni, well, assuming the server is working correctly, you should be able to mount it with 'mount -t nfs hostname:/mount /mountpoint' or similar01:19
kicksledarooni: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#NFS_Client01:20
jvljavkjivnmkscm.01:20
john52ok but how can i check if i m registered or not?01:20
kicksledjohn52: join #freenode, they can help you with nickserv01:20
arooniplenty of info on how to set up nfs server on ubuntu and mac client; not so much on the reverse01:20
john52I m under freenode01:21
lordcirth_arooni, well, we can only help you with the Ubuntu side here.01:21
lordcirth_john52, you are on the server Freenode, channel #ubuntu.  There is a channel, #freenode, for Freenode help01:21
kk4ewtjohn53 /ns  help register01:21
aroonii guess first thing is to make sure mac server is set up01:21
aroonihttp://www.barryodonovan.com/2012/12/12/apple-os-x-as-an-nfs-server-with-linux-clients should help me01:21
john52ohhhh O.O01:21
john52no one rply back01:22
aroonilordcirth_: i tried following instructions but im seeing;   mount.nfs: timeout set for Tue Oct 25 20:32:53 2016 ..01:31
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lordcirth_arooni, do the clocks match?01:32
lordcirth_arooni, also, you can try -t nfsv301:32
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aroonilordcirth_: clocks appear to match to me01:36
aroonilordcirth_: mount: unknown filesystem type 'nfsv3'  ;; i assume it was mount -t nfsv301:37
BurtReynoldsAre there any sweet command line games like hacknet for linux for free?01:37
aroonilordcirth_: so if i run showmount -e on the mac side i dont seeany output01:38
lordcirth_BurtReynolds, there are many roguelikes that are free.  DoomRL is fun.01:38
BurtReynoldsI do like the roguelike games but I'd like to try something that's a "hacking" simulator01:39
BurtReynoldsI'll try out doomRL as I've never heard of it :D01:39
SonikkuAmericaUbuntu has nethack01:40
lordcirth_arooni, try -t nfs again, but add -onfsvers=3 to the end01:40
lordcirth_nethack has nothing to do with either meaning of 'hacking' however01:41
PenumbralFromage<3 nethack..01:41
PenumbralFromageI've only ascended once, though … Hard game.01:41
BurtReynoldsnethack is crazy01:43
anonymous-laptophello!01:43
lordcirth_hi01:43
anonymous-laptophey guys, i ve wondering about something may result extrange01:43
anonymous-laptoplet see if someone of you have the key01:44
Kramerboyhello, I have a question about nautilus. I right clicked on a folder containing over 100 gb of files. But I accidentally closed the properties window before it finished calculating the size. Does this affect the files in the folder?01:45
PenumbralFromageNo01:45
anonymous-laptopI have a laptop, sith 80Gb HDD, it cannot boot from usb. I want to use tails and DVD is slower than USB, of course, so i was thinking about "burn" the ISO file into a partition and run it as it was an USB stick.01:46
aroonilordcirth_: output >> https://gist.github.com/arooni/f4fb00c8b31ee2f9788f3ad3da67c94b01:46
anonymous-laptopcould be that possible?01:46
lordcirth_anonymous-laptop, that is possible, yes.01:46
PenumbralFromageI've been trying the same thing.. I have an old Mac - my bootloader sees the partition, but when I boot from it I get issues.01:47
anonymous-laptopso much difficult?01:47
Kramerboyalso, that folder is located on a USB drive and I am using Nautilus from gnome3-team repo01:47
lordcirth_anonymous-laptop, 2 ways you can do that: 1) you dd the iso over the drive like making a USB.  2) you make a partition, put the ISO file in it, and configure Grub to boot to it.01:47
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anonymous-laptopfuck yeah01:48
anonymous-laptopthanks you lordcirth_01:48
PenumbralFromage@Kramer - You're fine. Your files are fine.01:48
lordcirth_anonymous-laptop, the file method, while harder, would allow you to save things from Tails if you wanted to.01:49
anonymous-laptopany recommendation about the filesystem to use? FAT32 could be work fine?01:49
Kramerboy@Penumbral: ok then. Thanks for the answer01:49
lordcirth_anonymous-laptop, ext401:49
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lordcirth_fat *should* work, but you may as well01:49
lordcirth_arooni, well did you try -o nolock like it suggested (assuming you're only mounting in one place) or start the daemon?01:50
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PenumbralFromageAnyone have a recommendation on how to install on an old mac that refuses to install from USB, and the HD Partition thing doesn't work - oh, and the DVD drive is shot .. sigh ..01:50
aroonilordcirth_: the daemon is running on mac os x; but when i run sudo showmount -e ; nothing appears01:50
lordcirth_PenumbralFromage, pull the drive, install, put it back?01:51
PenumbralFromageHmm.. Not sure I follow exactly.01:53
anonymous-laptopI will try it and then come back in a few days to tell you the results01:53
anonymous-laptopthanks a lot!01:53
PenumbralFromageGod luck, anon!01:54
PenumbralFromageI don't have another mac to boot the drive in / install from.01:54
PenumbralFromageI do have a PC - but doesn't the mac install need some special treatment on install?01:54
lordcirth_PenumbralFromage, I've no idea.  I've done it for PCs, though.01:55
lordcirth_Normally Linux doesn't care whether you move it around, but it's possible Macs have something special.01:55
PenumbralFromageYeah, same .. Mac and the borked EFI boot makes life fun.01:55
PenumbralFromageI have a bootloader now that can see and boot the install from USB/external drive - but it then goes to "No bootable device - please insert blah blah"01:56
PenumbralFromageIt's an old mac.. 10y.. 2006 bodel.01:57
PenumbralFromagemodel01:57
PenumbralFromageI think I'll just get a new DVD drive.. $25 on Amazon … blah …01:57
lordcirth_I have managed to avoid dealing with Macs much, so I've no idea.01:57
PenumbralFromageGood machines, I just need to get off OS X, support is gone for this model - I need to get Linux going.01:58
PenumbralFromageI saw there was a special iso for mac on the 13.40 tree.. Hoping that will work,02:00
aroonilordcirth_: i ran ; https://gist.github.com/1c13c356607fb10592d806edc7244d48 ;; i got farther this time02:00
lordcirth_PenumbralFromage, 13.40 what?02:03
PenumbralFromageSorry, 13.04 - Raring Ringtail02:05
prometMy 16.04 dns just up and crapped out on me today, anyone else had problems?02:05
PenumbralFromage ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso                          24-Apr-2013 18:26  783M  Desktop image for 64-bit Mac (AMD64) computers (standard download)02:05
PenumbralFromageI haven't seen another build with that moniker - so I wondered if I needed to be worried about newer releases + Mac.02:06
PenumbralFromageAt least old ones :/02:06
PenumbralFromage(Pasted from old-releases.ubuntu.com)02:07
anonymous-laptophi again lordcirth_02:08
anonymous-laptopdoing that just now, primary, logical, extended...?02:08
lordcirth_anonymous-laptop, if you only need 1 or 2 partitions, they should be primary02:09
anonymous-laptop;)02:10
franck2I deleted repositories from /etc/apt/sources.list.  Is there a way to remove packages that were included in those repositories ?02:14
lordcirth_franck2, ppa-purge02:21
ShayBoxanyone know if theres another way to overclock a nvidia gpu w/o coolbits? that doesn't work02:34
ErpoI'm looking for NVR software that can record from ONVIF compliant IP cameras and offers a web interface for viewing live feeds, archived footage, and administration. Any suggestions?02:36
ShayBoxcustom firmware?02:37
ShayBoxthats what i did for my foscam camera02:38
anonymous-laptophi again02:39
ErpoHow does replacing the firmware on the camera help? Wouldn't I still need a server to archive the video?02:39
anonymous-laptopthat could work for wifislax?02:39
anonymous-laptopmenuentry "WifiSlax4.12" {02:39
anonymous-laptopset isofile="/media/anonymous/a2249a77-88d2-4e11-ad35-2d6a3f487110/wifislax-4-12-final.iso"02:39
anonymous-laptoploopback loop (hd0,4)$isofile02:39
anonymous-laptoplinux (loop)/boot/vmlinuz boot=casper02:39
anonymous-laptopiso-sacn/filename=${isofile} quiet splash02:39
lordcirth_anonymous-laptop, please do not paste so many lines to channel02:39
anonymous-laptopokay, so can I private paste this?02:41
anonymous-laptopjust 10 lines02:41
anonymous-laptopto see if the code is good02:41
lordcirth_!paste | anonymous-laptop02:41
ubottuanonymous-laptop: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:41
zylum_iso-sacn should be iso-scan02:43
anonymous-laptophttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23381833/02:43
anonymous-laptopand what about the path?02:44
anonymous-laptopand the vmlinuz file, has no extension02:44
anonymous-laptopthere is also vmlinuz2 file in the iso02:44
zylum_are they both in casper?02:44
lordcirth_anonymous-laptop, that path looks like a mount?02:44
anonymous-laptopyes, i used gparted, make this partition, and this is the path02:45
zylum_use the vmlinuz in the /casper folder02:45
anonymous-laptopmaybe im doing something wrong02:45
zylum_it could be the grub device02:45
zylum_go to grub command line and type 'ls' - could be that (hd0,4) isn't the correct device,partition02:46
anonymous-laptopi didn't test it yet02:47
anonymous-laptopjust send the code to see if it's okay02:47
anonymous-laptopinside iso there is no casper folder02:47
anonymous-laptopjust boot folder02:47
zylum_ok, then 'boot=casper' will produce an error if there is no /casper folder02:48
anonymous-laptopso boot=boot?02:48
zylum_yeah boot should equal the folder in which initrd and vmlinuz resides02:49
anonymous-laptopso, lets test it hehe02:50
anonymous-laptopthanks guys02:50
zylum_np02:50
CountryfiedLinuxhowdy03:01
CountryfiedLinuxIs there a good IRC app for Ubuntu with HiDPI?03:01
migueldwhat is HiDPI?03:04
kicksledhigh dpi screen I think CountryfiedLinux means?03:04
migueldoh interesting03:05
kicksledpersonally I use irssi with the terminal font a bit higher than normal :p CountryfiedLinux03:05
miguelddoes any irc app support that?03:05
mkquistmigueld: maybe... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI03:05
CountryfiedLinuxhowdy03:10
CountryfiedLinuxAny good IRC apps for 4K display?03:10
Ben64hexchat03:10
CountryfiedLinuxok thanks03:11
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FatSpitfiremornin guys :)03:30
kicksledmornin03:30
FatSpitfireanyone with questions for the mornin ?03:36
fajarlaksonoanyone can help me ?03:37
fajarlaksonoi have problem with codeblock, many gui doesn't work well03:38
FatSpitfirefajarlaksono , what is codeblock ?03:40
fajarlaksonoIDE for c++03:40
FatSpitfirefajarlaksono , you got me lost on that one bro :( sorry I can`t help you03:43
StumpDumbIs there a way to install Lubuntu on a second hard drive using a hard drive with Ubuntu on it?03:46
FatSpitfireyep03:46
StumpDumbUNetbootin?03:47
FatSpitfireStumpDumb , you have to copy your ubuntu into the second one - than install lubuntu-desktop on top03:47
StumpDumbsecond hard drive is blank03:48
FatSpitfireStumpDumb ,no - you`ll need to do some google searchin for that - you really just copy all the files and write some code in terminal ( two or tree commands) that`s all03:48
StumpDumbI want a clean/pure Lubuntu install03:48
StumpDumbnot just the Desktop03:49
FatSpitfireStumpDumb , it`s the same thing - I use Ubuntu server live cd for clean install - I trow everything else over it03:49
mabushey so i want to install a custom compiled openssl that supports sslv2 as i need to check other servers for their sslv2 support - how can i remove the current openssl and install a new one without clobbering every dang thing that depends on openssl such as ubuntu-server*03:50
mabusdont really need support on the openssl side just how i can replace a package without killing the dependencies03:50
mabusor knowing what i need to do to rebuild necessary packages against custom compiled dependancies03:51
StumpDumbinteresting03:51
Marre.03:55
Marrey03:55
Marrehpoi03:56
ibenznpo we?03:56
linociscohi all,03:57
ibenznpo su03:57
linociscovery slow shutting down or rebooting my ubuntu 16.04.1 x6403:57
Marreheh ojo kasar03:57
Rumixmiq03:59
AuctusSo i open up two file manager windows, one to a remote sftp/ssh server, so i can send a couple of html files over, and it transfers at like 900 bytes a second, no other programs do this, is there a reason for that?04:04
mabusi think i might actually have misspoke... i think ubuntu's openssl supports sslv2. i assumed it didnt since the penetration distro kali does not and should04:04
saifei???04:08
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rusticblendHi, i have a question. Is there a way to run and get external files in a /etc/service start up process? if I do any form for remote access the /etc/service script keeps repeating it self. Maybe it's my lack of knowledge getting in the way. It's ubuntu 14.04 server04:09
saifeihaha04:09
admin__enen04:10
boydhey04:11
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SircleI plugged nvs quadro 420 and 450 http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_420_us.html and http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_450_us.html and I saw only 2 out of 4 LCDs were shown as connected in xrandr -q. Other 2 as disconneced. I plugged that on an other machine having windows, I got all 4 working. A) any clues why? B) whats the minimum most costly card with 3-4 display at a time (for04:13
Sirclemultiseat) is 100% supported by ubuntu?04:13
econdudeawesomeHowdy all. I am unable to make a valid USB livecd. Currently working on Debian, dd makes the drive write-protected. What can I do?04:24
econdudeawesomeI am able to clear off old attempts using gparted04:25
lotuspsychje!usb | econdudeawesome04:25
ubottuecondudeawesome: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent04:25
StumpDumbBye bi04:29
anzhiwho04:31
ubmtHOW ARE U TODAY?04:34
lotuspsychjeubmt: you joined the ubuntu support channel04:36
ubmtand i say hello to anzhi but he left04:36
SircleI plugged nvs quadro 420 and 450 http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_420_us.html and http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_450_us.html and I saw only 2 out of 4 LCDs were shown as connected in xrandr -q. Other 2 as disconneced. I plugged that on an other machine having windows, I got all 4 working. A) any clues why? B) whats the minimum most costly card with 3-4 display at a time (for04:39
Sirclemultiseat) is 100% supported by ubuntu?04:39
lotuspsychjeSircle: you got the right drivers active?04:39
lotuspsychjeSircle: ubuntu version?04:39
rajmohani need to update openssl. can guide me please?04:40
Sirclelotuspsychje:  yes. the driver manager auto suggested the correct one. I have 16LTS latest04:41
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lotuspsychjeSircle: your up to date also to 16.04.1?04:41
Sirclelotuspsychje:  yes04:41
lotuspsychjeSircle: did you test other drivers? other ubuntu versions?04:42
Sirclelotuspsychje:  no04:42
Sirclelotuspsychje:  which cards are fully supported out of box?04:42
lotuspsychjerajmohan: you want the heartbleed bug?04:43
Sirclelotuspsychje:  I would use them and avoiad time wastage04:43
lotuspsychjeSircle: out of the box is very relative mate, lets say the best driver is the one working best on your card04:43
lotuspsychjeSircle: did you check your additional drivers section for other drivers?04:43
Sirclelotuspsychje:  where is the additional driver secion?04:44
lotuspsychjeSircle: its the hardware icon04:44
lotuspsychjeSircle: or sources/additional drivers tab04:44
lotuspsychje!heartbleed | rajmohan04:45
ubotturajmohan: A fix for the recent OpenSSL vulnerabilities (2014-0076 & 0160) has been pushed to the Ubuntu repositories. See http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ and http://heartbleed.com/ for more information.04:45
Sirclelotuspsychje:  I have kubuntu. No such link/button04:45
lotuspsychjeSircle: even on kubuntu, additional drivers should exist04:45
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Sirclelotuspsychje: cant find. But isnt there any "suppprted'/fully supported" cards?04:47
lotuspsychjeSircle: there is a hardware list certified for ubuntu, yes04:47
lotuspsychjeSircle: but in most cases, testing out drivers/ubuntu versions can sort most of the graphics cards04:48
Sirclehm04:48
lotuspsychjeSircle: you can check by terminal also with ubuntu-drivers04:49
Sirclelotuspsychje:  i saw 340.96 on driver list and 340.98 on quadro website. I think I should download the later?04:49
Sirclelotuspsychje: usage: ubuntu-drivers [-h] [--package-list PATH] <command>04:50
lotuspsychjeSircle: i would recommend testing things out like: testing latest ubuntu graphics drivers ppa, or a higher kernel, or switching existing drivers, or testing another ubuntu version04:50
lotuspsychjeSircle: try ubuntu-drivers --list04:50
lotuspsychjeSircle: perhaps also compare kubuntu with unity if it influences?04:52
Sircleunity?04:52
Sirclewhats that04:52
lotuspsychje!unity | Sircle04:53
ubottuSircle: Unity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity04:53
NoCodeis there a way to have a small buffer space in Konversation between the nickname, and conversation? It looks neater.04:55
lotuspsychjeNoCode: the #konversation channel might know?04:57
ubmti'm dying which channel could help?04:59
fishcookerhow to upgrade from "Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS" to the latest "14.04.X"?05:02
Bashing-omfishcooker: Try as ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' .05:03
FatSpitfireback :D05:05
fishcookerThanks Bashing-om, i'll try dry run first05:06
Bashing-omfishcooker: K; when in doubt ' simulate ' :)05:06
tubuliferousSo...05:09
tubuliferousI installed a bunch of packages by sudo apt-get...05:09
tubuliferousand no when I choose my Mint installation in Grub I get a black screen05:10
tubuliferousI have an Nvidia card, and I had some trouble setting it up initially...05:10
Ben64well then you should head to the mint support channel at #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org05:10
tubuliferousThis is essentially an ubuntu issue05:11
Ben64it is a mint issue05:11
tubuliferousOh, ok...05:12
ManInTheShedHello?05:13
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PrutheusHello! I am on arch-linux. Now, I don't know why, some of the icons of fontawesome, are not displayed correctly anymore. I don't know why, before all have worked fine, but now, only some icons are broken. How could I fix this?05:17
FatSpitfiretubuliferous , I always say : "Use Grub4dos" :D05:18
tubuliferousGrub4dos?05:18
ManInTheShedNo clue, sorry >_<05:19
FatSpitfirecomes in Puppy linux - make a dualboot usb with puppy alongside Ubuntu live iso (or whatever) :D05:20
Ben64Prutheus: wrong channel man05:20
FatSpitfiretubuliferous , comes in Puppy linux - make a dualboot usb with puppy alongside Ubuntu live iso (or whatever) :D05:20
PrutheusBen64: nope. I can also ask linux questions here.05:21
Ben64Prutheus: incorrect05:21
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FatSpitfireGrub4dos handles dual , trial , or more - boot like a pro !05:22
ManInTheShedOkay, I don't want to sound needy, but I can't fix this problem... Whenever i try to delete a file, I get an error like "Unable to create trashing file for <file>: Permission denied. Is there a way to fix this? I feel so dumb.05:23
him-cesjfwafflejock: I opened htop but couldn't otice any strnage process causing this issue. Sorry for late reply05:23
FatSpitfireManInTheShed , open your terminal : sudo su05:23
ManInTheShedokay05:24
FatSpitfireManInTheShed , than : sudo sinoptic (what was ubuntu`s file manager ?)05:24
him-cesjfnotice* strange*05:24
FatSpitfireManInTheShed , that`s how you open your file manager as root and have all the privileges ;)05:25
ManInTheShedOh okay, thanks!!05:25
Bashing-omManInTheShed: What are the permissions on the filke that you are trashing " ls -al <file> ' ? Maybe "you" do not have the access rights to that file ?05:27
ManInTheShedBashing om: I'm not sure, I'm a noob at Linux.05:27
ManInTheShedI'll check brb.05:28
varaindemianDon't know why I get this error and why the screen looks like this after I tell it to try it without installing or to install it https://imgur.com/a/ndqp405:30
varaindemianIs there any option to force a resolution05:30
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ManInTheShedBashing-om: I have access to the file, it gives me the error every time I want to delete a file, (I can still delete them, but only perm-delete, not move to trash)05:33
FatSpitfirevaraindemian , how many cpu cores have you assined to that server ?05:33
Guest6969696How do I backup either a snap or the configurations to export a snap(and configs) to another server?05:34
Bashing-omManInTheShed: show the output of the ls command . If "you" do not have the rights, you can not delete the file .05:36
ManInTheShedokay05:36
FatSpitfireGuest6969696 , donno , but I would try some resque live CDs - there are a lot of good tools among them05:36
stacks88`im out of the loop, just got on ubuntu 16.04 , should i not be using iptables anymore? what should i be using?05:36
ManInTheShedBashing-om: -rw-rw-r-- 1 ben ben 1793 Oct 21 14:01 dum28.cpp05:37
FatSpitfireManInTheShed , did it work ? remember that you have to log in as root : suso su :)05:37
varaindemianFatSpitfire, 105:37
Guest6969696FatSpitfire, im not having a problem. Im trying to understand how to back a snap up.05:37
LewocoI used xmodmap to modify the behavior of the caps lock key and that is working great, but the caps lock LED still toggles every time I press it. How do I disable this?05:38
ManInTheShedFatSpitFire: Yeah, I can delete it that way, just a bit of hassle every time I want to delete a file.05:38
varaindemianFatSpitfire, set it to 205:39
FatSpitfireGuest6969696 , live rescue cd iso have tools for backing up or cloning or whatever - learn to use other distro`s live cd - they`re as good as Ubuntu05:39
varaindemianFatSpitfire, now it works sir05:39
Guest6969696FatSpitfire, nevermind, thanks.05:39
FatSpitfirenp :)05:39
FatSpitfireGuest6969696 , i`m not naggin - just givin you an advice :)05:40
geirhaManInTheShed: Is it in the terminal you get that error message?05:40
FatSpitfireGuest6969696 , sorry I meant varaindemian :D :D05:40
ManInTheShedgeirha No, it's when I right-click and click "Move to trash"05:41
* Guest6969696 knows about live rescue but is asking for something else.05:41
geirhaManInTheShed: Ok, so it's a different partition than your homedir is on?05:42
Bashing-omManInTheShed: Only other thing I can think of is that you are not logged in as 'ben' ??05:43
varaindemianFatSpitfire, who said you are nagging me?05:43
FatSpitfirevaraindemian , donno , sorry - I thought you`re someone else :D05:44
FatSpitfireGuest6969696 , be more specific than05:45
varaindemianFatSpitfire, also, how did that work? :D05:45
ManInTheShedBashing-om Maybe, I changed my username a while ago, but my terminal still says "Ben@Mutron" so idk05:45
ManInTheShedgeirha I'm pretty sure my home directory is on the same partition...05:46
geirhaAh, changing username might explain it05:47
geirhaThat's no trivial task05:47
FatSpitfirevaraindemian , well the guy left dissapointed :( I should keep my mouth shut05:47
ManInTheShedMaybe...05:47
varaindemianFatSpitfire, hehe lol I am not, is that a bug?05:48
FatSpitfirevaraindemian , what is a bug ? :D05:48
geirhaManInTheShed: Would have to see the steps you went through to chagne your username to determine what steps you missed05:49
varaindemianFatSpitfire, I am just trying to understand why it worked :'(05:50
FatSpitfirevaraindemian , you were using a 64-bit iso on a one cored processor :)05:51
ManInTheShedgeirha that was a long time ago, but I think I just went to Settings -> User Accounts, and changed it to say "Muto" instead of "Ben", not sure if that's a username or just a login name.05:52
varaindemianthank you :)05:52
geirhaManInTheShed: Ah, that likely only changed the name, which is a trivial change05:52
ManInTheShedOkay.05:52
ManInTheShedWell, I'm going to bed than, lol, thanks anyway, guys!!05:53
geirhaManInTheShed: Do all the directories listed by this show that they are owned by your user?  ls -ld ~{,/.local{,/share{,/Trash{,/*}}}}05:54
ManInTheShedou05:54
ManInTheShedoh05:54
ManInTheShedOkay05:54
Bashing-omManInTheShed: When you do terminal command ' who ' .. are the returns all 'ben' or some other user name ?05:54
FatSpitfirevaraindemian , no prob05:55
ManInTheShedBashing-om ben      tty7         2016-10-25 22:04 (:0)05:55
Bashing-omManInTheShed: You is you then - ben - . something else some where else .05:56
ManInTheShedgeirha there are two outputs that say root, drwx------ 10 root root 4096 Oct 25 15:02 /home/ben/.local/share/Trash/files     and    drwx------  2 root root 4096 Oct 25 15:02 /home/ben/.local/share/Trash/info05:57
geirhaManInTheShed: Ah, owned by root. That's the problem.05:57
ManInTheShedAlright!05:57
the_rooterhey guys05:58
geirhasudo chown -R "$USER:" ~/.local/share/Trash  # reclaim your trash05:58
the_rooterhas there been a fix for the wifi issue on 16.04 yet?05:58
ManInTheShedgeirha Thanks!! It works!05:59
ManInTheShedBeen like a full year with that trash problem05:59
the_rooteranyone on?06:01
kicksledgood morning06:01
ManInTheShedThe_rooter I'm on, but probably gonna log off soon06:01
the_rooterjust a question about 16.0406:02
kicksledshoot06:02
the_rooterlast time i had it fresh install the wifi wasnt working and i seen a few post stating its kernel related...but i tested out linux mint and it works great06:02
the_rooteris there a fix of the wifi issue06:02
the_rootersorry for bringing up another os but rather get back to ubuntu06:03
ManInTheShedThe_rooter my solution is to just upgrade to 16.10, lol, But tbh I have no idea, sorry.06:04
the_rooterok?06:05
hateballthe_rooter: You could try telling us what chipset you're using06:05
Ben64what is "the wifi issue"06:05
kicksledthe 16.04.1 release had some firmware updates in the kernel relating to wifi06:05
kicksledas far as I know06:05
ManInTheShedOh, happy mignight Mountain timezone, guys!06:06
kicksledthe_rooter: which wifi card do you have?06:06
SURUi don't have vrohh06:06
the_rootersorry guys had a crying kid to tend to...06:08
the_rooterprocessor is intel core i3-4170 cpu @3.70GHz06:09
Ben64processor doesn't really matter06:09
the_rooterbroadcom corporation: BCM43142 802.11 b/g/n06:10
kicksledah broadcom06:10
hateballthe_rooter: should be able to install the firmware for that card through the additional drivers gui06:13
kicksledthe_rooter: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers06:13
kicksledif what hateball said dont work06:13
FatSpitfirethe_rooter , try to change Wifi channel on your router - try with one of channels from 1 to 906:13
hateballotherwise I think a "sudo apt install bcmwl-kernel-source" should do it06:13
the_rooteri have dont that kicksled and hateball and was a no go...i can try again and see if it goes06:14
the_rooterthanks guys i will try again06:14
ManInTheShedWelp, I'm out. Bye, friends!06:16
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hakan_hi there06:33
hakan_Any one here?06:33
hakan_I have a problem with virtualbox06:34
varaindemianFatSpitfire, the vm won't see the usb drive if I initially set it to usb 1.106:34
varaindemiando I need a reinstall to fix that?06:34
fajarlaksonowhats is unmount mean in drive ?06:51
fajarlaksonoanyone still alive ?06:52
Caluser2000NO!06:52
Bashing-omfajarlaksono: context ?06:52
fajarlaksonoright click on the disc and there is unmount option what is that ?06:54
fajarlaksonohow to mount it back ?06:54
fajarlaksonohallo ?06:55
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fajarlaksonohallo !!!!!06:55
ubmthow save channel log?06:55
fajarlaksonocan any one answer my question06:56
ubmthelp me06:56
ashrovHI, Can you please help me to run command which find only file and symbolic link ? I am using find -L -type f06:56
ashrovbut I don't want to follow the symbolic link just to find the file link itself06:57
ubmtfajarlaksono:you can mount it back06:57
fajarlaksonohow to do that ?06:58
ubmtfor example mount /dev/sda06:58
fajarlaksonoterminal ? alright thanks you06:59
ubmtyes07:00
fajarlaksonoany one know every statement you input to terminal ? or you just copy that from the internet, i want to know every digit that i input...07:01
ubmthow to save the conversation content???anyone know how to do?07:01
Bashing-omfajarlaksono: Well, -- when a device (disk) is in use .. data is in cache ,, this cache is written to the device when unmounted . Now a faulure to unmount can and does lead to a dirty file system .. and that will cause ya all kinds of issues ,07:02
ducasseubmt: read the docs for your irc client07:03
kegan_gnome volume overlay is displaying the wrong volume, and shows up of its own accord frequently07:03
fajarlaksonowhy unmount button exist ? lol...07:05
Ben64fajarlaksono: so you can unmount things07:06
kegan_how can i figure out whether this is my hardware or some kind of package issue?07:07
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Bashing-omfajarlaksono: History : ' less ~/.bash_history ' . As a terminal command .07:09
fajarlaksonowhat is that ?07:09
kicksledfajarlaksono: a command for viewing your .bash_history file in terminal07:10
Bashing-omfajarlaksono: " i want to know every digit that i input..." ^^ :)07:11
fajarlaksonothas not what i meant...07:12
shaygranthello07:12
fajarlaksonohallo too07:13
kicksledfajarlaksono: what device are you trying to mount?07:13
fajarlaksonoi not trying to unmount, just ask..07:14
fajarlaksonojust wondering about unmount07:14
kicksledok. type in man umount in a terminal window, brings up the manual on the unmount command.07:15
kicksledfajarlaksono: a good read on mount and usb drives: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB07:15
kicksledI would recommend reading those resources for learning more about mounting/unmounting at least07:17
linociscohow to make my ubuntu restart and shutdown faster?07:20
kicksledlinocisco: start with removing unnecessary startup applications07:22
kicksleddon't remove anything you don't know what is07:22
linociscokicksled, I tried07:22
fajarlaksonoubuntu already fast for me07:22
fajarlaksonohow to ubdate ubuntu without download and re instal ubuntu. like i have ubuntu 16 and i want ubuntu 17 without re-instal computer, can i ?07:23
kicksledlinocisco: in a terminal you can run the command systemd-analyze blame to see which processes takes long to initialize, can give you an indicator of what to do also07:25
ikevinfajarlaksono, use apt07:25
ducassefajarlaksono: you can upgrade from one version to the next with update-manager07:26
migueldubuntu 16? i thought the latest was 15.10?07:27
fajarlaksonoi'm 1607:27
fajarlaksono16.04 LTS07:27
migueldoops07:27
migueldi mean 16.1007:27
ducassemigueld: latest is 16.10, 15.10 is eol07:27
migueldoh okay07:27
migueldsorry wrong number07:28
migueldbut 17 is not out yet right?07:28
ducassemigueld: no07:28
fajarlaksono17 is next year07:28
fajarlaksonoi guest07:28
kicksled16.10 is the newest07:28
migueldwhy are people telling him how to update to 17?07:28
Ben64nobody is07:28
migueld<fajarlaksono> how to ubdate ubuntu without download and re instal ubuntu. like i have ubuntu 16 and i want ubuntu 17 without re-instal computer, can i ?07:29
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migueld<kicksled> linocisco: in a terminal you can run the command systemd-analyze blame to see which processes takes long to initialize, can give you an indicator of what to do also07:29
Ben64migueld: don't paste a bunch of stuff07:29
migueld<ducasse> fajarlaksono: you can upgrade from one version to the next with update-manager07:29
ducassemigueld: i told him how to upgrade in general, i didn't say anything about 1707:29
migueldi meant that07:29
migueldwell he was asking about 1707:30
migueldno one even said it was not out lol07:30
ducassemigueld: and i gave him a general answer07:30
migueldwow07:30
fajarlaksonoLOL07:30
migueld17 is not out would have been a good answer07:30
migueld:)07:30
Ben64migueld: relax, buddy07:30
kicksledfajarlaksono: 17.04 isn't scheduled to be released until april next year. but in general you can either upgrade via software updater or via terminal and apt07:31
migueldpoor guy might have been trying over and over to get 1707:31
migueldlol07:31
Ben64migueld: stop already07:31
migueldyou guys could use some help with tech support07:31
migueldsometimes I wonder if you guys don't just come here to fuck with people07:32
migueldsad07:32
migueldi guess you dont have anything else to do07:32
Ben64migueld: right now you're spamming the channel, you're the problem.07:32
ducassemigueld: he was clearly just giving an example.07:32
migueldnah you telling someone how to get 17 when ITS NOT EVE FUCKING OUT YET07:32
Ben64i didn't tell him a damn thing you idiot07:32
wiiguymigueld dont just highlight me07:33
migueldhe was asking about 17 fucktard07:33
fajarlaksonoit's just example.07:33
Ben64i still didn't say a damn thing to him, you need to work on your reading comprehension. he already knows 17 is not out yet, so DROP IT ALREADY07:33
kicksledmigueld: well, case closed. he got an answer, both about release date for 17.04 and upgrading in general.07:33
cariaso16.0.4 seems to have enabled automatic-upgrades on first boot? I'm on a starcluster, and my code runs as a plugin, and needs to apt-get install some packages, but it's often losing the race, and blocked by the autoupdate, causing my plugin to crash.07:33
migueldi was saying in general buddy ahhah07:33
migueldwell im glad someone told him07:34
cariasoI don't see an easy way to beat it to the punch, I don't want to build a new ami. Can anyone suggest a safe way to kill or workaround this?07:34
kicksledlinocisco: you could also check this thread for some tips around slow boot and shutdown, maybe some of the tips mentioned there will work. (note, haven't tested them myself, just thought you could check it out as it looks to have a few good tips) https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/help-with-slow-boot-and-shutdown-of-16-04/562207:36
ducassecariaso: uninstalling unattended-upgrades will disable them.07:36
sonu_nkHi i am new to Ubuntu.. if i have plain cloud ubuntu .. then we need to run a domain on that.. for this we need to setup a host ?07:36
cariasoducasse, even if they're already actively running?07:37
ducassecariaso: just purge the package, it won't autoupdate again.07:38
oliver8282hi07:39
fajarlaksonohi oliver828207:39
thekrynnhi... is there any reason why running the same basic commands in a bash script in a loop over and over would cause the commands to take longer and longer?07:49
Ben64thekrynn: you're going to have to be more specific07:49
thekrynnecho "${dtu} - (${dtu} % 86400)" | b07:49
thekrynnecho "${dtu} - (${dtu} % 86400)" | bc07:49
omnipim07:50
thekrynnim running about 5 of those (similar variants), and when the script first starts, they take 0.2s and after a few minutes, its taking over a second07:50
thekrynndtu is an integer07:50
thekrynni feel as though im spinning up too many pipes or something of the sort07:51
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Ben64thekrynn: might want to ask in #bash07:53
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fajarlaksonoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyo07:54
crash_ok...07:55
fajarlaksonoanyone have recommendation music ?07:55
thekrynnthanks07:55
Mathisenfajarlaksono, i heard that #chat or #defocus gor a god beat going for you07:56
fajarlaksonolol i got wrong room sorry. i thoung i chat with my friends at university...07:57
fajarlaksonoi'm so sorry07:57
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Harishello all08:02
kicksledello08:02
HarisI updated LC_TIME to en_US in /etc/default/locale and ran dpkg-reconfigure locales. that hasn't helped in changing that language back to english08:03
Harishow does one do it ? does it require reboot ?08:03
Haristhis is 14.04 lts08:03
kicksledHaris: what does your /etc/default/locale say in the line LANG= ?08:05
HarisLANG="en_US.UTF-8"08:05
kicksledHaris: try to log out and back in after making the changes08:06
Aterwynjoin freenode08:06
Harisyep. workign08:06
Harisworking+08:06
ameuruxhello08:08
kicksledhi ameurux08:08
ameuruxanyone experienced samba install errors?08:08
ameuruxon 16.1008:08
ameurux?08:08
kicksledwhat error are you getting?08:09
ameuruxit hangs on installing package08:09
ameuruxall works fine except samba08:10
Ben64you need to paste the error for anyone to be able to help08:10
ameuruxyeah just a min08:11
ameuruxI have to login from my Linux Machine08:11
cariasoducasse, I won't be able to test this for a while, but thank you for the suggestion08:13
BloomHello everyone, i am trying to install this csgosl from github: https://github.com/lenosisnickerboa/csgosl/wiki/Installing%20a%20new%20server08:17
BloomI am getting an error code saying:no display name and no $DISPLAY environment variable     while executing "load /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtk8.5.so Tk"     ("package ifneeded Tk 8.5.19" script)     invoked from within "package require Tk"     (file "bin/csgosl.tcl" line 6)08:18
gerry_hi I have written an app in java and packaged it in a .deb is it not possible to upload it to the ubuntu software center anymore?08:19
ducasse!motu | gerry_08:19
ubottugerry_: motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU08:19
Bloomis there any support in here?08:20
gerry_ok thanks for the quick answer08:21
linux_g10@Bloom what do you need help with?08:21
BloomI am trying to install a script from github and i don't get anything of the error messages08:21
ducasseBloom: $DISPLAY is unset, how and where are you running this?08:22
Bloomi have an old computer i installed ubuntu on which im trying to run it on, i have contacted the author of the script and he can get it work on his linux computer08:23
ducasseBloom: it needs access to an x server08:23
BloomWhat need access? My computer?08:23
ducasseBloom: the script, it needs to run under a gui08:24
Bloomi don't get it, so what do i need to do? I've followed the guide that he put and i have installed tk and tcl. Do i need to have a screen connected to my ubuntu based server=08:25
Bloom?08:25
MathisenBloom, are using the server with ssh only ?08:26
Bloomyea right now, but at home i have screen and keyboard08:26
Bloomjust not connected08:26
MathisenBloom, are you connecting from a windows machine ?08:26
Bloomyes08:26
ducasseBloom: won't work.08:27
MathisenBloom, then you need putty + xming08:27
Bloomhow do i do that?08:27
kicksledBloom: you want the cs go dedicated server, not the graphical interface. thats my guess. check http://bit.ly/2dVqOQg08:27
Bloomno i want the graphical interface but i thought i could get it on Linux? and then use my screen and keyboard to my Ubuntu based machine08:28
kicksledBloom: then putty + xming, see how to install here http://www.geo.mtu.edu/geoschem/docs/putty_install.html08:29
klimicz_Hello i have some problem with sound in headphones. Yesterday i was trying to save power via powertop and today i am having problem with headphones and idle state... while nothing is playing music ... wait 5 sec.. and a nd play a little bump... if i turn some music app on or some song the noise will again play i thing it is some power saving feature but i want to disable it08:29
BloomSo from this xming i will be able to connect to the server and run the gui on my windows machine?08:30
kicksledBloom: yeah, xming lets you run gui remotely08:31
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BloomWow, thank you guys:)08:31
klimicz_anyone?08:35
BloomI can't u08:35
BloomI can't open xming tho? but putty works08:35
ducasseBloom: you need to ask in ##windows for that, we only support ubuntu08:36
BloomHow do i connect to an irc? i found this on a website08:36
ducasseBloom: /join ##windows08:37
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Chukaruhello08:38
DerRaidenIs the wifi problem with the networkmanager still there on Ubuntu 16.10 ?08:38
ouroumov_DerRaiden, that's an overly vague query considering the number of problems with networking08:39
Chukaruthere is a 90gb folder, and i have three 32gb usb drives. is it possible to make archived (zip?) parts of the 90gb folder and place each part in each drive, so i can reassemble all the parts together back into the original 90gb folder?08:39
Chukaruthat is: make three 30gb zip files for each drive08:40
Chukaruso i can reassemble the zip files into a single one later on08:40
Ben64Chukaru: yep08:41
ouroumov_Chukaru, yes08:41
Chukaruhow08:41
Ben64you can make split rars, split zips, or split anything by using "split"08:41
ouroumov_Depending on the version of Ubuntu you're using, there's also a split option when creating the archive with a GUI08:42
ouroumov_I'm seeing it on Ubuntu MATE 16.0408:42
DerRaidenouroumov_: sorry there was a networkmanager problem on 16.04 when you came back from suspend that shows no wifi or no accesspoints08:42
Chukaruim (somewhat?) of a newbie on linux, and am using ubuntu 12.0408:42
BloomMathisen: what should i configure in Putty for it to work?08:42
Chukaruso im not exactly sure how to proceed, can you elaborate?08:42
Ben6412.04 is no longer supported, you need to upgrade08:42
Ben64wait, i forgot how to math08:42
DerRaidenafter restart networkmanager everything is ok08:43
Ben64it runs out of support in April08:43
Chukaruso it is supported as of this moment, Ben64?08:43
Ben64Chukaru: anyway, easiest would be to tar the whole thing, then use split08:43
Ben64Chukaru: yes, it's late and i forgot how to add 5 to 1208:43
MathisenBloom, you got link how to setup that.. but you need to export the screen on your ubuntu server > export DISPLAY=<my ip address>:008:44
ChukaruBen64: ok, thanks!08:44
BloomOh right sorry for that, so many links heh08:44
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Calyd0n#q08:45
ziscqotest08:45
BloomMathisen: in X11 settings should i put localhost:0.0, my internal or external IP?08:48
ziscqotest08:50
kicksledDerRaiden: I haven't noticed any problems on my 16.10 lubuntu install, but can't confirm if the bug is fixed or not.08:50
MathisenBloom, local if it is xming settings you talking about08:51
DerRaideni've tested with ubuntu mate and it's still there :/08:51
Bloomit is putty in the X11 section08:51
WulfGood Morning.08:51
ziscqotest test08:51
WulfHow can I boot Ubuntu over network? It should include a desktop environment and I can't use nfs or similar. Preferred would be to load a full iso image into RAM08:52
MathisenBloom, local there also08:52
kicksledDerRaiden: there are some workarounds for it I think08:55
MathisenWulf, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto08:55
BloomThank you alot Mathisen & kicksled, works now. I appreciate:) How can i save this IRC for future help? Do i need to download an IRC client or can i connect directly through a link?08:56
kicksledBloom: best way is to install a irc client. check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat08:57
multifractalNetwork manager applet crashed (so I don't have the little icon of wave-fronts in my top panel. How can I restart it?08:57
MathisenBloom, both of your sugestions work.. but the "best" irc experience would be to download an irc client, i recomend hexchat08:57
Mathisenmultifractal, sudo service network-manager restart08:59
ducassemultifractal: the applet is 'nm-applet'08:59
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WulfMathisen: this howto looks like it needs NFS. Which is not possible for my setup09:13
ppfWulf: PXE boot uses TFTP09:18
Wulfppf: yes. But I need a big root fs. I want to load it into RAM09:19
Wulfppf: I want to be able to pull the network plug after the boot and it should still work09:19
ppfpxe boot is just the boot09:19
Wulfyes, I know that.09:19
ppfit'll download and bootstrap a second stage package09:20
ppfhttp://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php?title=PXELINUX09:20
Wulfppf: exactly. So how do I download the root fs (e.g. as iso image) and boot from it?09:22
Wulfppf: do I need to modify the initrd?09:22
Wulfor is there an easier way like someone did it before?09:22
lakituhi; i've been trying to install ubuntu for days and can't figure out the problem. i think it's UEFI related. anyway i've been getting this message when i try to boot, with 2 checked Ubuntu 16 discs: "the 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot."09:23
lakituits toward the end of a 'something else' ubuntu install, and like it says, it won't boot after that09:24
lakituit's.*09:24
lakituit's my main machine, hard to do stuff with it down09:24
lakitumy mainframe09:24
lakitu(ha ha)09:24
lakituwhen i try to install, i meant. not boot09:27
lakitutoward the end of the gui install, it says that ("the 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot.")09:27
lakitu/target/ sounds like a generic placeholder name, like its not getting some actual directory name or somesuch. but that is beyond what i'm going to go fix to get my/an os running09:28
lakitumint had too many hardware problems and other detractions, i'm looking to migrate back to ubuntu with this install09:29
* lakitu food, be back in a few09:32
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lakitui guess, my only other clue is that during install, it says something about 'continue in uefi, or go back' and i always just push continue09:37
lakitui read up about uefi, vs. bios, and i couldn't really figure out what i needed to do re uefi being a new standard, if that is why my install glitches out09:37
Ben64lakitu: if you're not dual booting with something that requires efi, i'd suggest turning it off and booting old school09:39
lakituhow? in my uefi menu when i turn on the computer?09:40
Ben64yeah should be09:40
Ben64you should look for 'legacy boot' maybe and disable secure boot if you see it, etc09:40
lakituand what if i want to install win 8 or newer eventually -- is it easy to switch over and have ubuntu still work AND get win 8 or higher to work09:40
lakituok09:40
Ben64windows can install in bios mode too09:41
lakitueven newer ones?09:41
Ben64yeah, unless i'm mistaken09:41
lakituhmm. i thought like 8 and/or 10 needed uefi, i could be wrong09:41
Ben64to be windows certified oem it has to be09:41
lakitubecause some hardware doesn't work in linux, last i tried, so . . .    ok09:42
lakitui thought i read otherwise09:42
Ben64i'm like 98% sure09:42
lakitumisread/bad information09:42
lakituok09:42
lakituso ok, turn off uefi09:42
Ben64although i think windows might need uefi to use gpt partition tables09:43
lakitumm. well my raid array is in gpt, i think09:43
Ben64might want to head to ##windows to make sure09:43
ducasseif i'm not mistaken, windows can only boot from gpt disks in uefi mode, but it can still read them anyway09:47
SourceyIf I need to set up a mx record - what is the hostname that is needed? Where do I find it?09:48
bozo68what happened to xchat in yakkety09:48
Ben64bozo68: xchat has been unmaintained for a while09:48
Ben64Sourcey: your mail provider will give you that information09:48
SourceyCreating my own mail server Ben6409:49
Ben64then you ought to know09:49
DerRaidenkicksled: yeah i found one to set a systemctl service script to restart nm09:49
SourceyI dont, thats why I need help09:49
Ben64Sourcey: then, and i don't mean this in a bad way, but you probably shouldn't be running a mail server09:50
bozo68Ben64: Where can I find a list of packages that got discontinued in yakkety?09:50
SourceyGot to start somewhere Ben64, cant learn without doing09:50
Ben64so start by reading09:50
Ben64bozo68: i'm not sure if such a list exists anywhere09:51
lakituducasse you're right09:51
bozo68Ben64: Ok, thanks anyway09:51
lakituaccording to eirirs in ##windows anyway09:51
ducasseSourcey: the mx record points to your mail server. running a mail server requires a certain level of knowledge, so i urge you to think about this.09:56
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pragomer_1had to hard reset my pc and now my icon theme isnt used any more. neither the window decoration.. plus: I cannot change the theme anymore. can select it in tweak tool but it isnt shown. any hints?10:11
davesidiousHey folks - how would one delete all directories in the filesytem which do not match specified paths?10:15
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ducassedavesidious: 'find', for example10:18
davesidiousducasse - I'm aware of its existence, but I don't know how to use it to do what I asked :)10:18
Ben64sounds like the precursor to "help i deleted my filesystem, how do i fix it??"10:19
davesidiousI'm creating Ubuntu docker images and I want to clean them out.10:19
ducassedavesidious: then read the man page :) it can do tests, and negate them.10:19
davesidiousBen64 - so that's not really a problem :)10:19
davesidiousthanks, ducasse.  Wonderfully helpful :)10:20
ducassedavesidious: something like 'find / \! -name dir-to-exclude'10:22
ducassedavesidious: then 'find / \! -name dir-to-exclude -delete' when you are happy with the output.10:23
davesidiousducasse - thanks - I'll have a look.10:24
ducassedavesidious: look at the bottom of the man page, the examples section.10:24
ootanixrffff10:38
FManTropyxwhat's up?10:38
mmm_Help guys, i have installed fullscreen aplication that closes top menu bar (because app should be in kiosk mode), and i need widget or smth else that will popup current language when user changes language by alt shift combination, can you help me?10:39
ootanimy cat steps10:39
mmm_Help guys, i have installed fullscreen aplication that closes top menu bar (because app should be in kiosk mode), and i need widget or smth else that will popup current language when user changes language by alt shift combination, can you help me?10:40
grassywhat kind of fucked up bullshit garbage is it that ubuntu 16.04 cant fucking deal with rar files? what kind of shit eating assface coder decided that it was ok to release an update when it cant even handle a "natively supported file-format"? seriously, fuck ubuntu and every shit felching fuckbag who works on it10:42
FManTropyxlol10:43
FManTropyxRAR is so 90s, who uses it anymore10:43
mmm_Help guys, i have installed fullscreen aplication that closes top menu bar (because app should be in kiosk mode), and i need widget or smth else that will popup current language when user changes language by alt shift combination, can you help me?10:44
mmm_Help guys, i have installed fullscreen aplication that closes top menu bar (because app should be in kiosk mode), and i need widget or smth else that will popup current language when user changes language by alt shift combination, can you help me?10:44
ducasseFManTropyx: the warez crowd, at least10:44
hateball!patience | mmm_10:44
ubottummm_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/10:44
FManTropyxI bet they still use ARJ too :P10:44
yakarmmm_: sudo apt-get install rar10:45
mrbinaeryakar: i think you mean grassy and not mmm_ :)10:46
mmm_rar? rly?10:46
FManTropyxI wouldn't even want rar on my system :P10:46
FManTropyxfor me it's XZ or nothing!10:47
mmm_doesnt anybody made a widget that alerts user current language for 3-4 seconds10:47
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yakarmmm_: rar for your first question :) i dont no second one..10:51
ducassemmm_: i'm guessing layout switch is communicated over dbus, so you could create a script that listens for that and sends a notification. don't know of anything pre-made.10:57
lakituwow, i think that worked Ben (Ben64). at least it didn't throw an error, and said it finished.  fwiw i was getting that error about a 'grub-efi-signed' package failing to install or something similar, and also it before it was asking if i wanted to continue, since i was in uefi. i googled and found 'asrock uefi setup utility' (my uefi setup screen) requires switching "CSM" to enabled11:00
lakituthat worked11:00
lakitui'm in11:00
lakituthanks11:00
mmm_ducasse thank you11:00
mmm_will investigate such script11:00
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mtgrdo you know how to connect unbuntu to chrmoecast ?11:24
BluesKajHi Folks11:30
=== amine_ is now known as Amine-H
rocket__hi so far i really like ubuntu unity11:38
rocket__installing the nvidia drivers been a little crappy11:38
rocket__but else it works better than windows11:38
rocket__which has issues with my network card ;)11:39
rocket__anyway is there a better dock which is better organized for more icons11:39
trijntjerocket__: might be easiest to decrease the icon size11:41
rocket__true11:42
rocket__well i like the bar11:42
rocket__another question11:42
rocket__anyone managed to do gpu pass on nvidia11:42
rocket__?11:42
rocket__with qemu11:42
ducasserocket__: does your machine support vt-d?11:42
rocket__yes11:43
rocket__unfortunately i have no amd card11:43
rocket__gtx 107011:43
rocket__it supports vt-d and vt-x11:43
rocket__also my cpu does11:43
rocket__ducasse, you did it?11:43
trijntjerocket__: try not to use the enter key that much ;)11:44
ducasserocket__: never tried, but i've seen a few guides online. if noone here responds i would try a bit of googling.11:44
rocket__trijntje, ok11:45
wafflejockhim-cesjf, no problem almost missed your message in the history there though :) let me know if you're around today and still having the problem can maybe help troubleshoot11:45
rocket__ducasse, ok i think i will find a lot online, but i have been told its a bit tricky to do that for nvidia11:46
dgoHi here. I'm using a bluetooth headset.  It works great, except I always have to restart the bluetooth service, otherwise the A2DP sink mode does not work. Any idea ?11:47
* theDoomGuy 's 11:49
gutengoki'm lending my computer to my gf (she's an engineer) and I don't want her to look into my past life. I've searched for *.pub and *.pem and deleted a few keys (I found even keys I forgot I had) ... any other extension I should search for?11:50
rocket__gutengok, i would not do that ;-) you always forget something11:53
dgogutengok: *.jpg11:54
killehey guys. anyone here ever use citrix to run lync on ubuntu?11:56
lordcirth_gutengok, do you need anything on the computer?  Backup onto a USB and reinstall11:56
gutengoki want to search for extensions11:57
gutengokif reinstalling was an option i wouldnt ask this thx11:58
lordcirth_gutengok, ok.  Well, yeah, all picture and video extensions, clear all browsers & caches, if you want to be paranoid, you can zerofill the free space when you're done, or use shred to delete12:01
gutengokthanks12:02
pandaadbhi - is there a tool that can create a bootable windows usb stick on ubuntu?12:04
pandaadbI read about one, however it was last maintained in 2012 or something like that12:04
wafflejockpandaadb, http://askubuntu.com/questions/707159/how-can-i-create-a-windows-10-boot-usb-from-ubuntu12:24
carbineHello. I am having issues with my wifi connection, and I believe it has to do with DNS. Ubuntu 16.10, ath9k, ar9565.12:27
carbineDHCP keeps setting the nameserver in resolv.conf to 127.0.1.112:27
carbineEven though I'm specifying which nameservers to use in NetworkManager.12:27
pandaadbwafflejock, thanks12:28
wafflejockpandaadb, no problem12:29
Ben64carbine: that's because of dnsmasq most likely, nothing to worry about12:29
carbineBen64: But it is causing connection issues.12:29
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Ben64doubt it12:29
carbineThen something is.12:29
Ben64can you explain the issue12:30
carbineYesterday I thought it was the ath9k drivers.12:30
carbineRegardless of which path I go down, I still can't use this laptop at work lol.12:30
Ben64carbine: try "nmcli device show | grep DNS"12:32
carbineReturns 192.168.0.13, 192.168.0.14, 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.412:36
carbineSo obviously not a DNS issue...12:36
younderwhen did nmcli become pa standard package?12:36
carbineThough /etc/resolv.conf is showing 127.0.1.112:37
squigso I am having a problem settings options on the nfs-kernel-server12:38
squigI want to remove the RPCMOUNTDOPT --manage-gids12:38
squigI havecommented out that line in /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server12:39
carbineWould it be bad to write-protect resolv.conf and set my settings in there?12:39
Ben64carbine: yes12:39
squigbut the after a restart the setting returns12:39
carbineLol glad I asked. :D12:39
Ben64carbine: you already know it's not dns, why keep going down that path12:39
carbineBen64: I'm running out of solutions, sadly.12:39
Ben64just go one step at a time12:40
boreeas_Hey, I am observing strange behavior with dd. Using 'dd if=/dev/urandom of=somefile bs=64M count=1' reliably only writes 32MiB. Can someone explain that behavior to me?12:40
wafflejockboreeas_, did you sync afterwards?12:40
wafflejockboreeas_, dd will have things in buffers/cache sometimes honestly not sure why it is sometimes and not other though, sync will flush the buffers12:41
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boreeas_wafflejock: No, I didn't. But I'm going by dd's own output here ("33554431 bytes (34 MB, 32 MiB) copied, 1,49784 s, 22,4 MB/s")12:41
squigwhere else might service nfs-kernel-server be reading from?12:41
wafflejockboreeas_, yeah it will say that while stuff is still in cache12:41
carbineThe things I have done so far, in both 16.04 and 16.10 are: Disable power management, disable hwcrpyt, turned of IPv6, set my own DNS servers, blacklisted the following: ath3k, acer_wmi12:41
wafflejockboreeas_, when you run sync can watch the buffers flush out http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/48235/can-i-watch-the-progress-of-a-sync-operation12:42
Ben64carbine: i mean just test networking stuff, it's weird to disable ipv612:42
Ben64ping gateway, ping google, etc12:42
carbineI've been doing all of that. Pinging anything, including gateway is iffy at best. I get maybe 5-10 seconds of connectivity at a time while always showing as connected with full signal.12:43
Ben64carbine: sounds like hardware/driver then12:44
carbineWell, this laptop works fine at home. My issues are in my office. This office handles 30-40 devices, not including personal devices connected via wifi, all without issue.12:45
boreeas_wafflejock:  even after a sync file size is still 32M12:45
Ben64boreeas_: try bs=1M count=6412:45
boreeas_Ben64: yeah, that does it12:46
Ben64problem solved12:46
boreeas_Ben64: Thanks. But why does that happen?12:46
Ben64dunno, 64M works on my computer12:46
Ben64my computer stops at 625472380 bytes12:48
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rjkhelp! i am getting this error on mounting external harddisk;  https://paste.ubuntu.com/23383465/13:03
rjkuable to access "My passport"13:03
Doc-SaintlyHello all. For some reason when I'm trying to install ubuntu, it keeps running 'grub-install --force "/dev/sda"' and failing, even though I told it to install Ubuntu to /dev/sdb13:07
ANTI_microchiphy13:08
ANTI_microchiphelp13:08
Doc-SaintlyHello all. For some reason when I'm trying to install ubuntu, it keeps running 'grub-install --force "/dev/sda"' and failing, even though I told it to install Ubuntu to /dev/sdb13:08
leavdDoc-Saintly: did you manually put mbr to sdb?13:09
Doc-Saintlyleavd: nope, I just had it "erase the drive and Install Ubuntu" there13:10
Doc-Saintlyleavd: is this necessary to do for a fresh install? If so, how?13:11
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kicksledANTI_microchip: please do not spam me on msg13:13
ameuruxhello13:13
ameuruxanyone tried install samba on 16.10?13:14
kicksledDoc-Saintly: just remembered someone solved that same issue with answering no to "automatically install to MBR of first hard drive" under installation and manually set it to sdb.13:14
kicksledameurux: desktop or server?13:15
ameuruxboth13:15
ameuruxor any13:15
Doc-Saintlykicksled: looking at the partition table it created, it doesn't seem to have made a boot partition by default.13:15
ameuruxcause I got an error13:15
Timmy_LSo.... Is downloading the binary amdgpu-pro from the amd site still the way to go for installing it? Shouldn't it be in a repo or PPA by now? (on xubuntu but couldn't find their irc)13:16
kicksledwhat error?13:16
kicksledameurux:13:16
vfwameurux: So what is the error?13:16
Doc-Saintlyam I mistaken, or shouldn't a "use the whole disk" installation of Ubuntu just work?13:16
ameuruxit hands here13:16
ameuruxSetting up samba (2:4.4.5+dfsg-2ubuntu5) ...13:16
ameuruxCreated symlink /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/nmbd.service → /lib/systemd/system/nmbd.service.13:16
ameuruxFailed to preset unit: Unit file /etc/systemd/system/samba-ad-dc.service is masked.13:16
ameuruxCreated symlink /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/smbd.service → /lib/systemd/system/smbd.service.13:16
vfw!paste | ameurux13:16
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vfwameurux: So is your samba share working? Or not?13:17
vfwameurux: Have you tried it?13:18
ameuruxnot sure13:18
ameuruxFailed to start Samba NMB Daemon.13:18
altermhi13:18
ameuruxis one error13:18
ameuruxnow everytime I try to install something dpkg will hand again at samba package13:20
vfwameurux: dpkg-reconfigure samba13:21
vfwameurux: apt-get -f install13:21
ameuruxit gives me this   /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: samba is broken or not fully installed.13:22
ameuruxI think samba is broken on 16.1013:22
ameuruxneed to report a bug maybe13:23
vfwameurux: apt-get -f install13:23
ameuruxsame13:26
ameuruxsudo apt-get -f install13:26
ameuruxReading package lists... Done13:26
ameuruxBuilding dependency tree13:26
ameuruxReading state information... Done13:26
ameuruxThe following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:13:26
vfw!paste | ameurux13:27
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ameuruxFailed to preset unit: Unit file /etc/systemd/system/samba-ad-dc.service is masked.13:31
vfwameurux: dpkg-reconfigure samba13:32
ameuruxI did, same error13:32
ameuruxdo u have 16.10?13:32
vfwameurux: apt-get -f install13:32
vfwameurux: For ubuntu, I use LTS13:32
ameuruxyeah, thats what I ment, only on 16.10 this is a bug13:33
ameuruxI dont have that error on 16.0413:33
vfwameurux: Can you paste results of "sudo apt-get -f install"?13:34
vfwplease...13:34
ameuruxI did13:34
vfwameurux: Then send us the URL13:34
ameuruxsudo apt-get -f install13:35
ameuruxReading package lists... Done13:35
ameuruxBuilding dependency tree13:35
ameuruxReading state information... Done13:35
ameuruxThe following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:13:35
ameurux  libv8-3.14.513:35
ameuruxProcessing triggers for libc-bin (2.24-3ubuntu1) ...13:36
ameuruxErrors were encountered while processing:13:36
ameurux samba13:36
ameuruxE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)13:36
ameuruxhow to paste multi lines?13:36
ameuruxhello13:36
mcphailameurux: please stop spamming the channel. Scroll up - you have been given a link about how to paste gracefully13:36
OerHekshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/161036113:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1610361 in samba (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/deb-systemd-helper: error: systemctl preset failed on samba-ad-dc.service: No such file or directory" [Undecided,Incomplete]13:37
ameuruxty,13:38
OerHekscheck for  /etc/samba/smb.conf, maybe it is not there.13:38
ameuruxsry for my noob act13:38
mcphailameurux: no worries. We've all made the same mistake ;)13:39
ameuruxty13:39
OerHekssystemctl status samba-ad-dc13:39
ameuruxI will try to create smb.conf manualy13:39
ameuruxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23383632/13:41
vfwameurux:13:41
vfwsudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade13:41
ameuruxjust checked, smb.conf  exist13:42
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vfwameurux: sudo apt-get autoremove13:43
ameuruxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23383642/13:43
kicksledameurux: do sudo apt-get autoremove as vfw mentioned13:44
ameuruxjust a min13:45
neldogzIs there a way to stop the windows from shuffling when doing a window spread?13:46
ameuruxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23383648/13:47
ameuruxafter apt-get autoremove13:47
vfwameurux: sudo dpkg-reconfigure samba13:48
ameuruxits a bug I guess13:48
vfwameurux: sudo apt-get remove samba && sudo apt-get update13:48
ameuruxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23383654/13:49
ameuruxI can remove samba13:49
ameuruxbut I can't use it13:49
vfwsudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade13:49
vfwameurux:   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^13:50
ameuruxok13:50
ameuruxas u like13:50
ubmtmotherfuckers13:51
vfwameurux: Any errors?  (If so, use pastebin and send URL)13:51
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vfwubmt: Come back when you have something useful to say.13:51
bumspelljoin #linuxmint13:51
ameuruxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23383664/13:52
ameuruxsame thing13:52
vfwbumspell: Preface that with /13:52
kicksledcould apt purge samba be worth trying?13:52
ameuruxI did13:52
vfwameurux: sudo apt-get purge samba13:53
ameuruxsame error when I re-installing13:53
vfwsudo apt purge samba && sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade13:53
ameuruxafter purge   http://paste.ubuntu.com/23383676/13:54
ameuruxanyone can test on virtual machine?13:55
vfwsudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade13:55
Vuurdraak_hi everybody, after a PC shop told me they thought linux/ubuntu update servers might somehow be less trust worthy then say a close sourced ms update server, I was wondering how do I know that the update server I'm using has the same content as the main canonical update server ? are patch/update servers somehow tested and validated or how does this work ? is there a chain of trust ?13:56
BluesKajVuurdraak_:  pc shop is uninformed , unless they're thinking of ppas13:57
Vuurdraak_well yeh i kind of disagreed with them, i know there are signing keys, but does for instance canonical test if the data is the same ?13:58
vfwNaw... they don't test anything ......13:59
kicksled:p13:59
ameuruxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23383696/13:59
vfwsorry, couldn't resist14:00
kicksledameurux: sudo apt autoremove now and then try to install samba again14:00
Vuurdraak_it's based more on trust worthyness of the organization hosting patches, or maybe rather if i trust them, like for instance im using the dutch university of twente, im dutch14:00
ameuruxok14:00
vfwameurux: sudo apt-get autoremove14:00
kicksledofficial repos are safe. ppas are as trustworthy as the people who put things up14:00
Vuurdraak_okay14:01
ameuruxsame errors14:01
ameuruxafter trying to reinstall14:01
ameuruxit's a bug14:02
ameuruxsamba is broken on 16.1014:02
vfwameurux: did you do autoremove?14:02
ameuruxyes14:02
ameuruxI did14:02
vfwsudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade14:03
ameuruxsame result14:03
ameuruxI guess I have to report a bug14:03
kicksledVuurdraak_: good read on repositories: http://bit.ly/2ffyqPi14:03
Vuurdraak_thanks14:03
ameuruxsad14:03
vfwameurux: Your pacage management system is broken.  You need to fix it.14:04
Vuurdraak_yeh i guess i searched for the wrong words, "patch servers" gives a lot of other stuff :)14:04
ameuruxwhat?14:04
ameuruxdo a test on a virtual machine,14:04
ameuruxthe same result14:04
vfwameurux: You read the bug report. Right?14:05
ameuruxevery single packe I installed, works fine, except samba14:05
ameuruxtry to do a test with 16.10 on any virtualbox machine14:05
ameuruxIm running on real machine14:06
Guest2685hi guys!14:07
ameuruxIm noob in chat, but I've been using Linux since 199814:07
lakitui had compatibility issues, it seemed, in linux mint. i switched off mint to ubuntu so that gives me the idea to try them now, in ubuntu14:07
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ameuruxuse Red Hat, Suse, Kannopix, old shit14:07
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lakituwhat is knoppix again?14:08
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lakitui just read the other day a blurb on it, but i forget14:08
ameuruxits an old live cd we use to play with14:08
lakituis Arch a good idea for your mainframe / main offline comp14:09
lakitu- ?14:09
ameurux<vfw> u have a phone I can call you?14:09
vfwlakitu: Yes14:09
lakitui've used linux for about 6-8 years like i say14:09
lakituvfw - pro/con for that?14:10
lakituoops wrong wrong14:12
lakituwrong room14:12
terribleim using ubuntu 16 xenial how can i change the splash screen the easy way?14:13
ameuruxsee u guys, gonna play some Dota 214:14
hemant__hello14:16
whothehellamihi, I have a thinkpad t450s with two batteries and I can only see the battery life time from the first battery. Is it possible that ubuntu (16.04) estimates and displays the hole battery lifetime?14:17
Vuurdraak_whothehellami,  no idea, but i would try to drain one bat and see what the dial says, if there is no other smarter solution14:18
hemant__why am i getting connection reset by peer?14:19
pahi14:20
pahow can i install private qt5 headers in 16.04?14:20
mnemoHello guys. What type of ubuntu you recommend on Asus Eee PC 1005HA 2gb Ram ?14:21
hateballmnemo: as minimal as you can go, Lubuntu probably14:22
smoulecI am planning to install Ubuntu on a touch screen laptop. Unity or Gnome? What's your opinion?14:22
kicksled_I think unity would be better for touch, but thats just my opinion14:23
mcphailsmoulec: try them both and see what you like best14:24
smoulec@mcpfail Agreed, I am trying to see if there is a clear fav in the community14:25
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Timmy_LSo.... Is downloading the binary amdgpu-pro from the amd site still the way to go for installing it? Shouldn't it be in a repo or PPA by now? (on xubuntu but couldn't find their irc)14:26
Vuurdraak_smoulec, i have no opinion on it, because my screen is dirty enough without touching it :)14:26
hateballTimmy_L: have you checked oibaf ppa? that's the only amd ppa I know of, but perhaps it has it14:27
Timmy_LI haven't, so thanks for the tip. Will check it out!14:28
smoulecVuurdraak: I hear you... I am going touchscreen b/c my keyboard is gross!14:28
Vuurdraak_lol14:29
smoulecDoesn't sound like there is a fav. I will try both on live USBs and go from there14:29
Vuurdraak_good luck may the best one win14:29
Timmy_LThe oibaf PPA seems to only have amdgpu, and not amdgpu-pro...14:30
smoulecccccccevihteurfglfgliudtinuknbbbrvtnuhnnlnck14:30
smoulecOops! Sorry, hit my yubikey!14:31
Vuurdraak_lol14:31
rocket__i wonder that anybody uses windows when there is linux14:35
rocket__now all works great14:35
rocket__i really like it, i also use osx like that too but ubuntu is even better14:35
Vuurdraak_<314:35
Vuurdraak_since i got 60 good games in ubuntu, i sort of stopped caring about windows14:36
rocket__well i will try to manage gpu pass14:36
rocket__and use some vm14:36
logikosboss ordered me a new laptop that shipped with windows .. he wants some security junk in windows so that if someone steals the laptop it boots to windows automaticly and phones home kinda thing.  I want to install and use linux so i used gparted to shrink windows partition, and add 3 new partitions .. one for /, /home, and swap ..14:38
conmanworknorwhat games?14:38
logikosduring install .. to get it to use the partitions i want i have to chose 'something else' instead of 'install ubuntu alongside windows'14:38
logikosbut will windows still be an option in grub?14:39
rocket__i dont like windows14:39
rocket__plus i dont trust it14:39
logikosme neither14:39
conmanworknoryeah windows is still an option in grub, as long as you generate grubconfig properly14:39
Vuurdraak_conmanworknor, https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197963002890/games/?tab=all14:39
conmanworknornice14:39
logikoshow do i ensure to 'generate grubconfig properly'14:40
Vuurdraak_logikos, if you install ubuntu along  sode windows , you should be able to boot both14:40
Vuurdraak_side*14:40
Vuurdraak_grub will auto detect the windows osses and ad them14:40
logikosis that part of the install process? .. i've installed linux many times but i always remove all other parititons on the disk first .. i havent done dual boot in over 10 years14:40
de-factoI always get those really annoying kernel freezes with dataloss when i use nvidia 340 on xenial. Now it seems i will have to throw my nvidia card in the trash bin and ordered an 2nd gen Radeon GCN R7 360, to be able to have a working computer with xenial and no data loss. Does someone here know if that works stable with amdgpu?14:41
Vuurdraak_always first install windows14:41
Vuurdraak_then linux alongside it14:41
conmanworknorlol i haven't touched my windows partition in like a year but it's still there14:41
logikosVuurdraak_, but i chose the 'something else' option so i can select my partitions .. will windows still be an option so long as i do not overwrite its partition?14:41
smoulecrocket: why do you want to partition your disk rather than letting Ubuntu do it (install alongside Windows)?14:41
Vuurdraak_logikos, yes ur okay as long as u dont over write ur win partition14:41
Vuurdraak_grub will detect the win partition14:42
rocket__smoulec, i like vm's14:42
conmanworknor>graphical installer .... i should really switch to #arch14:42
rocket__just interested if i get it running smoulec14:42
smoulecfair enough!14:42
Vuurdraak_if it fails some how you could always repair with a windows resque disk to get win back, as long as that partition is there14:42
rocket__smoulec, running in a vm is also running in a sandbox14:43
logikosVuurdraak_, for 'Device for boot loader installation' do i chose the entire disk /dev/sda or the partition where i am mounting / which is /dev/sda5  .. /dev/sda1 says it has the windows boot manager on it14:43
logikosor does it not mater if i chose /dev/sda or /dev/sda5 for that14:44
Vuurdraak_you want to point the boot loader to a drive14:44
Vuurdraak_so sda14:44
logikosi just dont want to jack up the windows partition or make it so they cant get back into windows .. i wont use windows but they require i keep it14:44
logikosty14:44
smouleclogikos: you want /dev/sda14:44
Vuurdraak_taht way u can tell ur bios what drive to read the boot loader from14:44
Vuurdraak_if u have more then one drive14:45
logikosty14:45
smouleclogikos: if you have security software on your Windows install, I would check that it won't get triggered if the partition table is changed14:45
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logikossmoulec, he hasnt added the security software yet14:46
logikosbut will once i'm done setting this up14:46
logikosgood tip though.. didnt think of that14:46
smoulecI am thining that b/c you said the soft can boot the PC to Windows if stolen. souds like it requires WOL14:47
Vuurdraak_ah yeh intresting one14:48
smouleclogikos: if your company is fine with dual boot. I would say try a "install alongside Windows" and let Ubuntu resize / partition the drive14:49
ceibalhola14:49
smoulecbootloader on /dev/sda14:49
ceibalhola soy taty14:49
Vuurdraak_if there is already valuable data in windows though, not resizing windows might be a better option14:50
smouleclogikos: going outside the box: can you get a 2nd drive, clone your drive and test on the clone?14:51
smoulecI see what Vuurdraak is saying: resizing partitions can always get dicy, especially Windows14:52
insyhow does one set his system so that i dont have to manual startup a series of programs,but that i goes automatic to specfic  locations onscreen14:53
theGoati have updated one of my ubuntu boxes to 16.04.  now i can't mount dmg files from my mac.  all i see in the kernel logs is lockd: cannot monitor <client>  not sure if i need to make changes on one of the sides.  client side is OS X 10.1114:55
Vuurdraak_insy, there are different ways to start up programs i guess, but i would not know if you can specify locations on the screen, i haven't made many of those my self but you got stuff like cron jobs and this start directory: "/home/<cool_user_name>/.config/autostart"14:58
insytrue but what i want is let them start and then put some on desktop1 and some on desktop 2 on a fixed position14:59
smoulecinsy: depending on your window manager, you may be able to use saved sessions (KDE does that I believe)15:01
insyim on ubuntu 16.04 unity15:01
Vuurdraak_theGoat, if you are sure that the problem started after you updated ubuntu, and with osx nothing changed, i would think the problem is on the ubuntu side, maybe fstab was changed ?15:02
theGoatit was working before the upgrade.  only thing that changed was the upgrade to ubuntu 16.04 which is the fileserver running nfs15:03
smoulecinsy: you can try http://www.webupd8.org/2016/03/how-to-save-and-restore-unity-session.html15:07
juanonymoushey i tried downloading a game that is for windows so i installed wine on the system, problem is the game is on the left side of the screen. anyone here knows how to fix this problem or make this full screen?15:08
Vuurdraak_theGoat, can you find all the drives with:  sudo blkid15:08
theGoatyes, and i am able to browse the files with my client, etc, but trying to mount a volume like an iso or something like across nfs no longer works15:09
Vuurdraak_is there not a wine channel ;) ?15:09
juanonymoushttp://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2016-10-26_23_02_07-546Axn6P.png15:09
PiciVuurdraak_: its #winehq15:09
Vuurdraak_there u go juanonymous15:10
Pici!wine | juanonymous also...15:10
ubottujuanonymous also...: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu15:10
Vuurdraak_theGoat, are you trying to mount them with their uuid ?15:11
GodModehello15:11
Vuurdraak_or just iso files on a file system ?15:11
GodModeanyone need help i'm giving free help15:12
theGoatno: Vuurdraak_: here is the entry from the automounter on my mac: software   -fstype=nfs,soft,intr,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,noatime,timeo=900,retrans=3,proto=tcp 192.168.101.150:/dumping_ground/software15:12
smoulecjuanonymous: try Alt-Enter after starting the game / in the game menu, see if you can change the screen resolution (sounds like that could be it based on your screenshot)15:13
logikosVuurdraak_, smoulec .. strange thing .. i installed xubuntu selecting my partitions manually .. the installation finished .. but on reboot it booted to windows .. and holding shift doesnt seem to help.. my fear was it would go to ubuntu and i wouldnt be able to get to windows .. not i dont see how to get to ubuntu15:13
logikosgrub most not have taken over as the boot manager?15:13
logikosif i hit F12 i git the boot options as seen by the bios .. and it lists only the windows boot manager15:13
Vuurdraak_theGoat, okay yeh sorry im at a loss, maybe there is somebody who knows more about then me available15:13
smouleclogikos: what was your target to install grub?15:13
ajm73hi15:13
theGoatno problem..tks for the help anyways15:14
logikosit was /dev/sda15:14
logikoswith /dev/sda1 being windows and /dev/sda5 being mount point / for linux15:14
logikosat least i think it was 5...15:14
logikosmaybe 315:14
logikosbut i think 515:14
Vuurdraak_logikos, the pc has only one drive ?15:14
logikosyes with many partitions15:15
Vuurdraak_yeh i guess grub somehow didn't get installed15:15
smouleclogikos: what version of Windows do you have? do you use secure boot (check BIOS)?15:15
logikossmoulec, ubuntu asked me to enter a password ti disable secure boot and so i did during the install15:16
logikosi've never been prompted for the password though15:17
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logikosin the bios so long as i have UEFI mode selected secure boot is not chnageable15:17
smoulecccccccevihtejjcgbnhrtljjjurgukjetlujtkuilikb15:17
smoulecccccccevihteunnulcngihhbltggltbftgkkvcktvhkg15:17
smoulecDAMN Yubikey!!!! NEVER GET A NEO /rant over!15:17
smouleclogikos: can you check your bios boot options yourself and see if it's uefi / secureboot15:18
danielthebaguewhats the latest stable kernel release for 16.0415:18
smoulecI tend to do disable it myself when I want to dual boot15:18
logikosyes it is uefi with secure boot enabled15:19
logikosif i change it to legacy then i cant boot into windows15:19
smoulecthat could be your problem: you don't want secureboot15:19
Southern_Gentlemok how do i update a ubuntu box15:19
RockRollahello15:20
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, the current kernel that I'm using is: Linux version 4.4.0-45-generic (buildd@lcy01-08) (gcc version 4.8.4 (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.3) ) #66~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 19 15:05:38 UTC 201615:20
RockRollahello man15:20
kicksled4.4.0-45 is the latest I think15:20
Vuurdraak_it should be the same for 16.0415:21
logikossmoulec, I see secure boot: enabled in the bios but it isnt changeable15:21
kicksledfor 16.0415:21
RockRollahow can enable wpa15:21
logikoslike i said ubuntu had me set a password specificly for secure boot15:21
kicksledand 4.8.0-26 for 16.1015:21
logikosbut i'm unsure what to do with it15:21
Vuurdraak_logikos, weird that it doesn't ask for the password15:21
smouleclogikos: I would disable secureboot in the bios, then reboot to make sure Windows 10 works (assuming Win10)15:22
logikoshmm by setting a bios password i can now change other things that i couldnt before15:22
smoulecif htat works, you will most likely have to re-install ubuntu15:22
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, i have kernel 4.4.0-45 install but when i get to login screen the resolution of screen is big and i can not type in password , then it freezes and i have to restart the computer via reset button15:23
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, maybe you have a gpu driver problem ?15:23
smoulecyou can probably fix grub but a new install may be faster15:23
kicksledlogikos: turn of fast boot also in windows15:23
kicksledlogikos: http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6320-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-8-a.html15:23
logikosdisable it in windows???15:23
debkadhello, when my system crash, a small window appear and tell me to send report, when accepting, another error appear ( something like it can't send the report )15:23
EriC^^logikos: what's the problem?15:24
smouleclogikos: disable fastboot in bios if present15:24
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, first try to read the log files though like /var/log/Xorg.failsafe.log etc15:24
kicksledlogikos: you can also try to re-register grub with your firmware's nvram by opening a administrator command prompt in windows and the following command "bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi" - source http://askubuntu.com/questions/371559/grub-not-showing-on-startup-for-windows-8-1-ubuntu-13-10-dual-boot15:24
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danielthebagueVuurdraak_, running an nvidia gt610 on the previous kernel i ubunut works fine. i thought the newer kernel would use the installed driver that i use previously. when i boot into revoery mode it freezes aswell15:25
logikosEriC^^, new win10 laptop .. company requires i keep win10 on it but is letting me install ubuntu with dual boot so long as it boots to windows by default .. i installed ubuntu but cant figure out how to boot to it15:25
logikoslots more details but dont want to write a story .. any specific questions?15:25
EriC^^logikos: which laptop model?15:25
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, how can i read the log files when i can not log in15:25
logikosAcer Aspire V 155 Nitro15:26
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, normaly new gpu driver modules are build yes, but maybe something went accidently wrong ?15:26
logikosV 15 not 15515:26
EriC^^logikos: try to "trust" the efi file in the bios15:26
Vuurdraak_you can not drop to a command prompt ?15:26
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, nope can not drop to command prompt15:26
logikosEriC^^, i'll look for that option .. dont recall seeing it..15:26
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, can you boot from a resque disk cd/dvd/usb ?15:27
danielthebagueyes15:27
Vuurdraak_try to look from there in the logfiles15:27
Vuurdraak_see what is going on15:27
danielthebagueok15:27
EriC^^logikos: it might come up after setting the admin password15:27
logikosEriC^^, there are 3 password in the bios .. 'supervisor', 'user', and 'HDD'15:28
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, im forgetting something, normaly you can boot also with an older kernel15:29
logikosi set the supervisor password which did enable many more options15:29
EriC^^logikos: try supervisor15:29
smouleclogikos: supervisor should do15:29
logikosdid not make anymore visible but did make them changable15:29
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, yes i am on older kernel now15:29
logikoslooking for something that says 'trust' now...15:29
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, ah so you should be able to look in the log files then ?15:29
EriC^^logikos: try to enable/disable secureboot15:29
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, sorry i thought you could not get to them15:30
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, how do you decipher which log file srelate to which kernel15:30
logikosEriC^^, do i care about TPM (TCM) state ? not sure what that is15:30
EriC^^yeah15:30
smouleclogikos: I wouldn't rely on ubuntu to disable. I would do it in the bios now that you can. disable secureboot and fastboot15:30
EriC^^i think that is a security feature15:30
logikosTPM(TCM) is currently enabled with an option to clear...15:30
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, i just look in /var/log/15:31
EriC^^dont clear15:31
smouleclogikos: TPM is a security chip. I would leave that alone.15:31
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, i dont see many different log files in there15:31
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, i dont know what you see though15:31
EriC^^logikos: can you boot a live usb?15:31
smouleclogikos: that won't have any effect on installing an OS15:31
logikossmoulec, i did disable secureboot .. had no affect.. perhaps i have to reinstall ubuntu now that i've done so .. 'fastboot' though an option in most bios's i've seen .. isnt an option that i can see here15:31
logikosEriC^^, yes15:31
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, try look in kern.log15:31
logikosEriC^^, so long as i didnt make the usb by burning the iso to the usb .. i had to folow some special UEFI instructions .. which just unziped a .iso to it15:32
smouleclogikos: probably have to re-install: secureboot stopped grub from installing15:32
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, and Xorg.0.log or Xorg.log15:32
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, scan for any display errors15:32
logikosalright, will try reinstall15:32
EriC^^logikos: never heard of that15:32
EriC^^no need to reinstall15:33
EriC^^it's not related15:33
logikosEriC^^, other options?15:33
EriC^^some bios are a more difficult than others with the uefi stuff15:33
EriC^^logikos: boot the live usb in uefi mode for a bit to check how stuff are15:33
logikosits a clean install .. so to reinstall isnt a big deal .. but i'll try to get back to the live usb15:34
EriC^^there are a ton of workarounds you can do, not sure if you want them as it's a work laptop15:34
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, i dont know which kernel is referenced by which log file, also i have three different versions of ubuntu installed15:34
smouleclogikos: if you don't want to re-install, you can try to repair the boot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair15:34
EriC^^logikos: it's a matter of reinstall isn't related15:34
EriC^^the bios can't stop ubuntu from adding anything if secureboot is set, and ubuntu uses now the same efi image for both secureboot and non15:34
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, i don't know how many times you booted, but if you booted from the latest kernel now 1 time to the working older kernel, get the 2nd newest logfile by time15:35
smoulecEric^^, have you tried dual-booting Windows/Ubuntu with secure boot enabled? I know ubuntu supports it now but never tried both at the same tine15:36
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, the kernel log and current kernel log should be the newest files in theory15:36
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, previous kernel log*15:36
EriC^^smoulec: yeah it works fine15:36
vahidhi all15:37
bazfoobarHi, I'm going to be installing Ubuntu 16 to a computer that (for the moment) has no internet connection. I have a mobile plan with unlimited data, however. Is USB tethering with Android going to function out-of-the-box or am I going to run into problems?15:37
bazfoobarI've been searching Google and haven't really had much luck so far.15:37
danielthebagueVuurdraak_,  (EE) AIGLX error: failed to open /usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/dri/fglrx15:37
danielthebague_dri.so, error[/usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared obj15:37
danielthebagueect file: No such file or directory]15:37
vahidhow invet back box chanel15:38
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, looks like some driver problem15:38
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, is it posible to rename your X11/xorg.conf and use a default one ?15:39
smoulecEric^^: you're right, I stand corrected. Secureboot on dual boot has been fixed after 12.04...15:39
Vuurdraak_and back up your current xorg.conf15:39
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, how can i reinstall driver if i can not get to the command prompt in recovery mode, due to it freezing15:39
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, see if you can start on a default driver15:39
tgm4883bazfoobar: I believe I've done that before with no issues15:39
smouleclogikos: I would still then take a shot at repairing the boot (see my link) Something happened when grub tried to install15:39
pepperm1ntShit there's a ton of people here, didnt know what hexchat was, was always uninstalling it, might be useful someday ! :)15:40
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, you can get to the menu to chose to run in failsafe mode ?15:40
bazfoobarHmm, okay, thanks @tgm4883. I hope you're right.15:40
Vuurdraak_danielthebague,  or not even to there ?15:40
tgm4883bazfoobar: unfortunatly I don't have a cable to check right now15:41
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, in grub menu i choose recovery mode15:41
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, and then after that it's broken already ?15:41
danielthebagueyeah the recovery mode menu is frozen15:42
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, yeah the recovery mode menu is frozen15:42
bazfoobartgm4883: Well, I suppose that if I do have any problems then at least I can use my phone to try to get some help. Thanks anyway.15:42
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, okay yeh, try to start up with a back up xorg.conf15:42
bazfoobarI wasn't expecting it to work without having to install additional software.15:42
Vuurdraak_danielthebague,  so that you start it basicly up in safemode15:42
tgm4883bazfoobar: you could also just test it in the live environment before making any changes15:43
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, revert to the nouvaou driver or something15:43
bazfoobarMy Windows install is dead (so I was just going to wipe it) and I need to get my computer working as I am behind on assignments but have no recovery discs etc. so figured... Linux.15:44
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, there should be a: xorg.conf.failsafe   in: etc/X11/15:44
wafflejockbazfoobar, can't you put the phone into hotspot mode?15:44
danielthebagueso mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak and reboot so it recreates another xorg.conf?15:44
bazfoobarHmm, possibly, I'll have a look.15:44
bazfoobarIt's a fairly old Android phone though.15:44
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, backup xorg.conf to xorg.conf.mybackup and then copy xorg.conf.failsage to xorg.conf15:44
wafflejockbazfoobar, I use the wireless on mine occasionally if I have no better connection think android 4. something they added the hotspot to the cell/wireless options but it's buried15:44
Vuurdraak_xorg.conf.failsafe*15:45
wafflejockbazfoobar, can use apps to do it too though think foxfi was the one I used before15:45
bazfoobarI believe I'm on 4.2.215:45
insy@vuurdraak tnx for that hint on restoring the sesion , it worked15:45
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, even though this kernel has working graphics??15:45
bazfoobarAh, yes, portable Wi-Fi hotspot!15:45
bazfoobarAwesome.15:45
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, if you backup your current xorg.conf, you can get it back later15:45
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, just to see if you can boot with the failsafe xorg.conf with the new kernel15:46
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, if that works you can try to re-install the driver15:46
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, in /etc/X11 i have xorg.conf.07292016 and fail safe15:47
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, only two files ?15:47
bazfoobarI still need to get a hold of a Windows recovery disc or something as I need access to VS for some of my work but at least I can do some of my work now. It'll be interesting using Ubuntu for the first time in like 10 years.15:48
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, plus other folders and files15:48
wafflejockbazfoobar, it's better now :)15:49
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, can you search for "xorg.conf" in those folders ?15:49
bazfoobarI remember fighting to get audio working for days.15:49
bazfoobarI can imagine!15:49
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, not just xorg.conf is it supposed to have numbers following it15:49
mjaykbazfoobar: 99% of things work out of the box now, no wifi drivers or weird usb problems :)15:49
archer121Hi, I have connected a reciept printer to my PC. Does it create a file under /dev directory? If so, how can I locate it?15:49
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, maybe because you have multiple ubuntu's idk, not with me it does15:49
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, the only xorg.conf on my pc are in the etc/X11/ folder, you have other sub folders with xorg.conf style files ?15:50
bazfoobarHas anyone had any luck running Visual Studio in a VM or via WINE or whatever, on Ubuntu?15:50
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, nope just the  two xorg.conf, failsafe and one with numbers following it15:51
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, okay then im assuming it's using the xorg.conf.0729201615:52
danielthebagueso mv Xorg.conf with number following it to a backup15:52
danielthebaguethen copy xorg.conf.failsafe to xorg.conf15:52
wafflejockbazfoobar, haven't used VS in a while but I run windows VMs in virtual box on occasion when I need to test things out, don't think it'll be a problem so long as you have the RAM to give the virtual machine15:52
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, yeh try back that one up, and copy the failsafe one back in to it15:52
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, im wondering also what happens if there is also an extra xorg.conf maybe it will also try to read that15:53
wafflejockbazfoobar, doesn't look good for wine https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=89215:53
bazfoobarI have no idea how much RAM the machine I've been donated has but we shall see.15:53
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, i never encountered the numbnered version15:53
bazfoobarThanks again!15:53
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, i only have the two xorg.conf fail safe and the other15:53
wafflejockbazfoobar, no problemo15:53
bazfoobarMS really need to release their developer tools for Linux and OS X but I doubt that'll ever happen barring things like VS Code.15:54
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, be prepaired to dive in to the console later on, to get your old xorg.conf back15:54
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, if failsafe also fails15:54
danielthebagueok15:54
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, ok here goes time for reboot15:56
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, good luck :D15:56
malinusHello. So I've got the D31HW HUAWEI which is a "modem dongle". Connecting it gives the following message: http://paste.debian.net/890062/ . The kernel tained error comes AFTER disconnecting. Trying to run lsusb gives no results (it hangs?), and the process has to be killed.15:56
malinusI'm guessing it's a kernel driver issue?15:57
malinusBut I'm not even sure what else I can do to test it.15:57
wafflejockmalinus, looks like it detected as a storage device but the lsusb hanging is where the process got hung15:58
wafflejocker where the error is coming from saying "INFO: task lsusb:2217 blocked for more than 120 seconds."15:59
malinuswafflejock: it also detects it as a cdrom apperently :D15:59
malinusand a "uas" whatever that is15:59
wafflejockmalinus, did the modem ever work or this is first time trying it?15:59
malinusFirst time trying it. I'm just wondering if I can try anything else16:00
malinusIt might be a bug in their firmware or even hardware problem for all I know16:00
bazfoobarHmm, apparently the download button for Ubuntu Desktop defaults to amd64 and not i386. Let's try this again. D:16:00
AARCGuys, I have done something very stupid and now i'm f***ed16:00
NoImNotNineVoltpeople still have i386 boxes?16:00
yinflying2016。。。16:00
kicksledsome modems have a storage device in them as well for drivers and software, could perhaps confuse your system? :p16:00
AARCI messed around with the partitions through fdisk and now it won't boot anymore16:01
AARCstuck at initramfs16:01
malinuskicksled: yeah. But what's with the cdrom ?16:01
kicksledmalinus: no idea tbh16:01
skfaxAfter switching from unity to i3 for window management I've had audio issues. Suddenly I need to turn the volume up heavily to listen to some music in my browser, and way down to listen to audio from some other program. On a couple of occations I've forgotten to turn the volume down and it almost destroys my speakers and hearing. Is there a simple way to make audio when using i3wm work as with unity?16:02
AARCHow can I possibly fix this? "ALERT! /dev/mapper/CAC_VG-CAC-LV does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"16:02
yinflying2016NoImNotNineVolt: There are some machines still stay in 2G or less internal memory16:03
tgm4883NoImNotNineVolt: not many, but they do exist16:04
wafflejockmalinus, appears someone got this to work with a similar model but you'd have to adjust values and cross fingers that it may work or bork something ymmv http://askubuntu.com/questions/776497/huawei-modem-does-not-work-with-16-04 doesn't talk about the hanging lsusb though16:04
bazfoobarI'm not sure how old the machine I've been donated even is. What would you folks recommend as a lighter-weight alternative to Ubuntu, in case it doesn't meet the minimum required specifications? I'd rather take a load of discs with me, rather than have to travel all this way to burn more.16:04
marcel_hello16:05
bazfoobarShould have checked the specs beforehand but I'm an idiot.16:05
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tgm4883bazfoobar: I'd also grab xubuntu and lubuntu if I were you16:05
Vuurdraak_skfax, normaly individual programs can only be controlled with their own volume in the soundsettings/application, alsamixer can only tune whole lines, i guess if unity doesn't have the same issues, better get back to unity ?16:05
wafflejockbazfoobar, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems can grab xubuntu and lubuntu too ^^16:05
bazfoobarOh, yeah, I remember Xubuntu from way back but Lubuntu must be new. Thanks.16:06
malinuswafflejock: cheers that might prove helpful. I however think I've figured it out - you need to plug an micro-sd card into it. Then it started spitting out all the serial GSM ports etc.16:06
malinusgo figure!16:06
wafflejockah cool16:06
kicksledAARC: think it has to do with missing lvm support. see http://askubuntu.com/a/26936 on how to fix that16:06
Vad3rI wonder if anyone can help me. I am trying to use the network installer for 16.04 with an old system that runs XP. I downloaded the 32bit .ISO and created the usb boot with dd, rufus (windows) and it keeps failing and saying it's ran out of space?16:07
Vad3rI tried a sd card with an adapter and a usb and both do the same.16:08
Vad3ram I missing something?16:08
AARCkicksled: that solution is going to be a problem, this cloudathost stuff doesn't allow for inserting livecd's in anyway16:08
AARCcloudatcost16:09
wafflejockVad3r, mmm what ran out of space? when actually doing the installation of ubuntu you mean?16:09
kicksledAARC: ah, yeah. hmm16:09
yinflying2016Vad3r: seems strange16:12
wafflejockVad3r, what size is the drive you're running out of space on too https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/ch03s04.html16:13
rocket__is chromium and js off secure to browse16:14
rocket__or are there a lot of other leaks?16:14
Vuurdraak_I use chromium for banking and payments & firefox for all the other stuff16:14
ZibbrHello! First time writing int this channel. And first tume on Ubuntu (on my laptop). I have som verry verry beginner questions. Do someone have a few minutes to point me in the right direction?16:14
wafflejockrocket__, leaks how?16:14
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, back that didn't make any difference changing the xorg.conf16:15
wafflejockrocket__, there is always IP communication and there are typically cookies for most things to work16:15
Vad3rwafflejock, 80gb ide hdd. it gets to 25% and says ran out of space then asks me to retry the download.16:15
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, wb16:15
rocket__wafflejock, just asking in general, usually if you turn off js you should be fine what side you ever browse on16:15
rocket__Vuurdraak_, why firefox for the rest?16:15
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, i was just wondering if it is posible to get a console by pressing ctrl-alt-f1 while the screen goes weird16:15
rocket__because of the cookies?16:15
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, think i will remove the new kernel and wait for a new kernel update16:16
Vad3ryinflying2016, I know.16:16
jontesup16:16
Vuurdraak_rocket__, to keep banking and the rest sepperated by cache etc16:16
NordacHi everyone ! I'm in the process of making config scripts that set up my Ubuntu just right. I'd like to know if there is a way to modify the Unity launcher shortcuts from command line or file. Is it possible ?16:16
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, i treid that no success16:16
rocket__ok16:16
Vad3ranyone have an idea what to try?16:16
jontei am chatting through emacs16:16
Vuurdraak_danielthebague,  yeh weird16:16
rocket__well i think chromium is more secure compared to ff16:16
jonte/16:16
kicksledZibbr: shoot16:16
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, maybe you can try to reinstall the kernel ?16:16
jonte/16:16
wafflejockVad3r, have you tried checking out the disk after it says it's full by going into the "try/live" mode16:16
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, the problem is will it upgrade the kernel to the same one i am having problems with16:17
Vad3rwafflejock, it's a network install.16:17
wafflejockVad3r, see if the drive shows as having some weird partitioning or something going on, I would look in gparted but dunno otherwise16:17
wafflejockah right :(16:17
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, i --reinstall the kernel already no success16:17
rocket__wafflejock, true but i dont think you could comprimise a system by that16:17
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, yeh it will, but maybe somehow what ever went wrong with building a driver module will go right this time ?16:17
bazfoobarDisable JS except for sites that need it, install something like uBlock Origin, activate click-to-run for extensions and optionally install something like HTTPS-Everywhere. Enable Do-Not-Track. Err.16:18
Vad3rI can't get past the "download installer compoments"16:18
wafflejockrocket__, well just saying there are traces and can more or less cover things depending on how paranoid you get :)16:18
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, not sure if it will do any good though16:18
bazfoobarThere's a guide on the internet somewhere about all of this. I think it's by the EFF.16:18
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, so remove the new kernel and when it comes to upgrqading let it16:18
Vad3r512MB RAM and 80gb hdd. HOW is it running out of space?!16:18
Vuurdraak_yeh16:18
rocket__wafflejock, ok :D, well i just dont want to catch some virus16:18
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, ok thaks for your help16:18
danielthebaguethank you16:18
rocket__i have no feeling how good browsers on linux are but i guess they are as good as elsewhere16:19
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, it's weird how suddenly a new kernel would not work with the graphics anymore16:19
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, unless you did drastic changes what kernel tree you are using16:19
bazfoobarrocket__: Look up, I posted some tips.16:19
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, like i had to switch from the old 14.04 lts kernel tree to the new xenial one16:19
wafflejockrocket__, yeah pretty low chance of getting something that escapes the sandbox of the browser really, usually it's via some plugins like Java/Flash and the like that have more permissions to do things but JS as far as I know is pretty well locked inside V8 and the other engines and doesn't have much access insofar as hardware is concerned16:20
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, but even then i did not have a driver/gpu isue16:20
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, keyboard input and mouse didnt work either in recovery mode too16:20
wafflejockrocket__, maybe a bit more with local storage and things in newer JS but really not a lot that can be done from that context typically16:20
bazfoobarThe disc image didn't burn successfully because an error occurred. Son of a... nice lady.16:20
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, maybe something wrong with that kernel16:20
theGoatVuurdraak_:  i think my issue was something with systemd.  i reverted back to upstart, and i have no issues16:20
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danielthebagueVuurdraak_, i did a online search and not seen anyone else with issues16:21
Vuurdraak_theGoat, wb okay great16:21
theGoatyeah...i am new to systemd, so i have no idea to troubleshoot16:21
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, the latest kernel works great here16:21
rocket__bazfoobar, i cant not agree on antivirus16:22
wafflejocktheGoat, from what I've seen journalctl and systemctl are your friends16:22
rocket__-t16:22
rocket__most anti virus software is a mess16:22
bazfoobarCan anyone recommend a Windows program to burn my Ubuntu ISOs? The built-in Windows burner is not working.16:22
theGoatwhen i have some time i will convert back to systemd and see what i can find.  or i will build another 16.04 instance and play with that16:22
wafflejockbazfoobar, think I used imgburn16:22
yinflying2016bazfoobar: ultra-iso?16:22
danielthebague Vuurdraak_what the latest kernel in repos?16:23
bazfoobarI'll try one of those.16:23
Vuurdraak_danielthebague,  version 4.4.0-4516:24
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, the one i am having issues with .,dam16:24
yinflying2016bazfoobar: the system built in can't burn boot ISO...16:25
bazfoobarAh okay.16:25
bazfoobarWell that explains that then.16:25
bazfoobarI was worried the optical drive was broken.16:25
for{}can u recommend some dark themes installable for ubuntu 16.10? on noobslab is nothing for now16:25
mistawrighthi guys I need to have qt5.7 installed on my 14.04.5 lts server. how would one recommend I go about this?16:27
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, i'm wondering if there are any other errors in the kern.log if it is something else then just a graphics issue, as you are saying everything is freezing up, it might just be the pc crashing, it could still be graphics related rather then the kernel16:27
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, i havent yet the skills to decipher the kernel logs16:28
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, are you using a 3d card ?16:28
for{}i tried to install rstudio and a libgreamer was needed but unfortunately isnt installable16:29
for{}*libgstreamer16:30
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, it has 3d for blueray but not using it for that16:30
for{}i know it isnt installable because apt told me so16:30
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, you have a special driver installed or just the ubuntu default driver ?16:30
for{}there is none in repository16:30
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, the nvidia proprietry driver that is tested16:31
for{}and from what i read there are no competitors for rstudio16:31
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, sudo apt-get distupgrade not even showing the kernel i am having problems with.16:32
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, upgrade to 16.04 or 16.10 ?16:32
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, from memory i think i may have installed it myself a few months back16:32
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, already upgraded to 16.0416:34
rocket__btw whats the best audio player for linux, im using vlc now16:34
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, 16.10 has a different kernel16:34
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, 14.04 & 16.04 should have the same xenial kernal16:34
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, i normally stick with the LTS releases16:34
Vuurdraak_kernel*16:35
CliveGerardHelp! I've logged on to UbuntuOne and tried to create a "derivative subpage" - It seems to create it but wont let me edit it!16:35
Vuurdraak_im searching for fglrx and i can not find it on my system, the error you gave before, it went of the chat with me now :'(16:36
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, anyway i must go thanks for your help again16:36
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, im wondering if that is the default driver from ubuntu that it is looking for16:36
OerHeksthere is no fglrx anymore, with 16.04 came radeon & amdgpu16:36
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, im using nvidia too16:36
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, that may have been an old log of the on board graphics i had Radeon which is not supported in 16.04 so switched to nvida gt61016:37
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, should etc/X11 what if you tried to copy that xorg.conf.072etc file to xorg.conf16:37
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, i dont understand why it tried to load fglrx and that you do not have a default xorg.conf16:38
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, as you say you have the nvidia binairy driver installed on the old kernel16:39
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, i give up for now i will wait till teh next kernel is released then upgrade that way16:39
Vuurdraak_okay ;)16:39
mistawrightanyone can make any suggestions on making this happen?16:39
Vuurdraak_danielthebague, at least the old kernel works :)16:39
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, case of it seems to be working so don;t try and break it lol16:39
Vuurdraak_:)16:39
danielthebagueVuurdraak_, thanks again for your help16:39
Vuurdraak_np16:39
Vuurdraak_rocket__, i use amarok & rhythmbox, i like amarok better for fast loading directories full of files to play that repeat, rhythmbox doesnt like to play nice there with its play lists16:41
for{}why isnt mplayer preinstalled?16:42
gianni44!list16:42
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for{}mplayer pure, no mplayer gui/frontend16:42
Vuurdraak_for{}, maybe some copyright issues, non free software blabla16:42
Jordan_Ufor{}: That's a question for #ubuntu-offtopic. We can help you install mplayer here though.16:43
for{}i think mplayer still rocks16:43
bazfoobarMy burn failed with imgburn too! I really hope it's not the optical drive.16:46
wafflejockbazfoobar, could be old optical media too those things can go bad in the sun or just sitting around long enough flash drives are ideal if you've got a tech shop around or some laying around16:47
aroonihow to deal with this mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking.16:48
Guest64510прив всем16:53
Guest64510помогите наладить жестак16:53
Vuurdraak_!russian16:53
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.16:53
Guest64510как это делать и чем на линуксе16:54
Guest64510 <Vuurdraak_>  там забанили16:54
Vuurdraak_:)16:54
aroonitrying to get ubuntu to mount a NFS enabled drive (on a asus rt-56n router).  on the router its /etc/exports line is /media/HardDriveArooni   192.168.1.0/24(rw,async,insecure,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check) ... and output from trying to connect on ubuntu is https://gist.github.com/3891e462785b9387b176f7473931d438 ... ideas?16:54
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Guest44331guys, how do I install netctl? it isn't on the official repos and somehow I don't find anything for ubuntu, I've only find info for arch16:58
Vuurdraak_arooni, maybe the client and server do not support the right version ? "mount.nfs: mount(2): Protocol not supported"17:01
arooniwell yes; but i think the last line of permission denied means that it found a protocol taht works17:02
Vuurdraak_arooni, maybe a firewall is blocking udp then or something ?17:02
aroonihow can i check that17:03
arooniVuurdraak_: in /etc/hosts.allow; i have rcpbind : 192.168.1.1 (ip of rotuer ) as well as 192.168.1.101 (laptops ip)17:03
wafflejock!info network-manager | Guest4433117:04
ubottuGuest44331: network-manager (source: network-manager): network management framework (daemon and userspace tools). In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.4-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 2025 kB, installed size 10832 kB (Only available for linux-any)17:04
Vuurdraak_arooni, is uwf running ?17:04
wafflejockGuest44331, pretty sure this does the same thing, what are you looking for from netctl?17:05
arooniVuurdraak_: ps -lA | ack ufw ==> yielded nothing17:05
Guest44331I'm not interested in using network-manager because it seems it is what's causing my problem. after a couple of hours wifi will disconnect and won't ever connect to a network again until the computer is rebooted17:05
Vuurdraak_arooni, mm yeh not sure whats going on17:05
Guest44331wafflejock, avoid a bug present in network-manager17:06
Vuurdraak_arooni, i was reading this info: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/205529/nfs-mount-nfs-protocol-not-supported17:06
wafflejockGuest44331, have you tried to restart network manager when that happens?17:07
Vuurdraak_arooni, maybe you can test what the capibilities are17:07
wafflejockGuest44331, or check out the output from dmesg, sounds like it could be a driver too in which case the manager won't really matter so much17:07
Vuurdraak_arooni, as they talk aslo there about nsf not liking udp17:07
Vuurdraak_also*17:07
Guest64510помогите дельфина починить непоказывает весь обьем диска и ппц виснет при копирывание17:09
kicksledarooni: protocol not supported? is nfs-common package installed?17:09
aroonikicksled: nfs-common package is installed yes17:10
Guest44331wafflejock,  it didn't give anything useful, it just said it timed out, it times out at trying to connect to all and every network17:10
OerHeks!ru | <Guest64510>17:10
ubottu<Guest64510>: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.17:10
ameuruxhello17:10
ameuruxanyone tried samba on 16.10?17:10
Guest64510fack ru all loser17:11
Guest64510help eng17:11
kicksledameurux: you're back17:12
aroonithis is the error i'm getting https://gist.github.com/3891e462785b9387b176f7473931d43817:12
Guest44331https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1393744 here's a bug report that shows the same behavior and it was never fixed, some people claimed that after removing network-manager the problem stopped17:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1393744 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "1814:0301 RT2x00/rt61pci disconnects since update to 15.04" [Medium,Triaged]17:12
OerHeksi rather suspect the wifi card/dongle than networkmanager17:13
kicksledameurux: yeah, while you were gone I fired up a virtual machine with 16.10 server. fresh install, only commands I ran was "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" after all updates were installed I did sudo apt-get install samba. no errors17:13
OerHeksand such old bugreport, do you think it is still valid?17:13
kicksledameurux: can you do a ifconfig please and pastebin the output?17:14
kicksledameurux: I see from your pastebin earlier that there are some issues with the interfaces also17:14
OerHeksif this still is your error, "Failed to preset unit: Unit file /etc/systemd/system/samba-ad-dc.service is masked." maybe this wiki is any help https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-dc.html17:16
kicksledarooni: are all the ports you need for nfs open on the server?17:17
aroonikicksled: i'm not sure how to check that;  its sort of a scaled back version of linux running on it17:18
Guest44331OerHeks, the card works properly on windows, so the card isn't the problem, and there are messages from a year ago, so I don't see how a but that hasn't been marked as solved isn't relevant17:18
Vuurdraak_arooni, maybe reverting to an older protocol version will help ? like adding: vers=2  to the mount command ?17:18
arooniversion 2 doesnt let it run :\17:18
kicksledarooni: what device is it? do you have a web interface or just command line?17:19
arooniif i could just get something to mount it17:19
kicksledlooks like v4 fails and v3 is ok but permissions fail17:19
aroonikicksled: i have a web interface ; and command line;  https://bitbucket.org/padavan/rt-n56u/wiki/EN/FirmwareBuilds17:19
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kicksledarooni: under advanced settings and firewall on your web interface17:20
ChinesiumOkay, I'm posing this question to multiple channels. Why should I pick this distro over another? I'm a Windows user mostly, but I also run ChromiumOS for battery life.17:20
aroonikicksled: stuipd me :\  haha17:21
aroonikicksled: so turn off the firewall?17:21
mcphailChinesium: this is the support channel. Best ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux17:21
ameurux<kicksled>  ty17:21
ameuruxI paste17:21
Southern_GentlemChinesium, all the major distros have live isos you can download and try out17:21
OerHeksGuest44331, it al depends on your wifi chipset/driver, and cannot be compared with windows.17:21
Southern_Gentlemtry them and see which one works the best for you17:21
ChinesiumI want people to sell me on them17:22
OerHeksGuest44331, so what wifi chipset do you have exactly?17:22
ChinesiumI'll probably end up using lxde of xfce anyway17:22
kicksledarooni: I wouldn't turn it off, but yeah, you can test it and see. If it works with firewall off, turn it back on and just open the ports you need and set permissions for your laptop/local network only17:22
Guest44331OerHeks, the same one of the bug report17:22
kicksledChinesium: lubuntu17:22
ChinesiumWhy?17:22
Southern_GentlemChinesium,  no its up to you in the long run17:22
aroonikicksled: turned it off and didnt have any effect lol :(17:22
PiciChinesium: You should try out a distro before picking it for use. Many distros offer live CDs/DVDs.  I would familiarize yourself with the package management systems in each as well as the actual packages offered and the support lifetime for the release you're choosing.17:23
ameuruxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23384523/17:24
PiciChinesium: Lubuntu and Xubuntu come with lxde/xfce installed by default, but they have the rest of the Ubuntu respositories available for use.17:24
kicksledarooni: what does your system log on the router/server say?17:24
ameurux<kicksled>   http://paste.ubuntu.com/23384523/17:26
kicksledameurux: hmm.. strange. I had no problems installing samba on a fresh 16.10 server at least. have no idea whats going on with your samba install unfortunately. try sudo apt-get purge samba and after that, check if there still is a samba dir in /etc/ and try to delete it manually. and then try to install samba again17:26
ameuruxok17:28
ameuruxI try17:28
OerHeksGuest44331, known issues with that ralink, nohwcrypt seems like a solution https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/26603317:28
kicksledameurux: if that fails I really have no clue whats happened with your server. Is it a server thats in production and needs to stay up? If its only for testing/personal use, I would recommend a fresh install again as a last resort.17:30
ducasseChinesium: it's not our job to sell you on anything, this channel is for support. try #ubuntu-offtopic.17:30
ameurux<kicksled>  thank you for trying out for me,17:39
kicksledameurux: no problem :)17:39
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meatrockethi17:44
meatrocketI'm a child molester17:44
meatrocketany little kids here?17:44
alejandro_i cant install apps17:47
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kicksledalejandro_: elaborate please17:47
theShirbiny!info alejandro_17:47
ubottuPackage alejandro_ does not exist in yakkety17:47
theShirbinyshit17:47
kicksled:p17:48
alejandro_alguien que hable español me podría ayudar con un problemita?17:48
Pici!es | alejandro_17:48
ubottualejandro_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.17:48
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noboodyhello17:49
konradosHi. When I'm trying to uninstall firefox ( sudo apt-get purge firefox ) I get this: http://pastebin.com/LQ5iHZRq - why can I solve this?17:51
kicksledkonrados: try sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox17:53
konradossec...17:53
deadpirateshello guys17:53
deadpiratesI need a help17:53
deadpiratesanyone here to help me out17:53
ameuruxhello17:54
deadpirateshello ameurux17:54
ameuruxkicksled  u there?17:54
Vuurdraak_just ask the question and see if anybody has any clue about it17:54
deadpiratesI heard about about mariana's web recently !! Is that total hoax or true ?17:55
ameuruxI found out why samba is making the error17:55
konradoskicksled, - same result:( "update-alternatives: error: /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-www-browser corrupt: unexpected end of file while trying to read slave link"17:55
ameuruxthere's no bug17:55
ameuruxIm using 3g dongle, it confuses samba installer with ppp01 interface17:56
ameuruxafter connecting to LAN with ipv4 the install went smooth17:56
ameuruxthank you all for your support17:56
for{}is there a romanian channel?17:57
Random832!ro | for{}17:58
ubottufor{}: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro17:58
for{}wow17:58
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kicksledkonrados: sudo apt-get install -f to fix broken dependencies first. that should do the trick I think17:58
deadpiratesthanks17:58
Random832generally the hint thingy is always !xx where xx is the language code17:58
deadpiratesI got it17:58
ameurux<kicksled>    thank you again and again17:59
kicksledameurux: glad you found the problem and got it sorted :)17:59
kicksledameurux: no problem17:59
konradoskicksled, thanks, but not really, I get this: http://pastebin.com/uAqGj1wY please help me...18:00
kicksledkonrados: http://askubuntu.com/a/62098318:03
konradossec...18:03
konradoskicksled, I tried that, because indeed, I don't really want to remove ff, but I want to make chrome the default. I already managed to increase chrome's priority, it did not work. Now it even worse, when I'm trying to "sudo update-alternatives..." I see "error: /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-www-browser corrupt: unexpected end of file while trying to read slave link"18:07
konradoskicksled, this is my "/var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-www-browser" file: http://pastebin.com/HCtUhe2f18:08
aroonihow can i make sure that the drive i mounted with ; [I]  ~  sshfs admin@192.168.1.1:/media/HardDriveArooni ~/HardDriveArooni/ ;;; is always mounted?  on startup?  but also always18:09
jacksbumleghello, I'm new to ubuntu18:09
jacksbumlegand irc18:10
kicksledkicksled: I have firefox as default browser. my x-www-browser file says 40 on firefox and 200 on chrome. hmm18:10
konradoskicksled - sec... it's the opposite than I thought, I thought the higher number the higher priority, sec..18:11
OwlHi!18:11
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jacksbumlegHI18:11
jqkeHi, i run ubuntu 16.04, and i try to upgrade to kernel 4.8.4 (with newer mesa) in order to have my rx480 running. Boot is hanging. Anyone to help me find out why ? I have no idea where to look18:13
konradoshttp://google.com18:14
Pici!google | konrados18:15
ubottukonrados: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.18:15
konradosNo, pici, I'm testing what will be fired on clicking :)18:15
konradosSorry for that18:15
konradosI'm trying to make chrome my default browser and I'm failing all the time Pici18:16
konradosjqke - it wasn't to you, I was just testing something18:16
konradosgoogle-fu :) :)18:16
konradoskicksled,  - I'm not sure where did you take this "200" for chrome, but now I have this: http://pastebin.com/nNN11ARW - what should be the default now? Isn't that chrome? Should I restart the system after making those changes? Or maybe now I should do this "update-alternatives" or something? I've just modified the file, nothing more18:19
TEB1992I was wondering with Kubuntu 10.04 LTS Can I still download updates from different other programs like VLC or Firefox or other programs18:20
hippybearTEB1992, on K10?18:22
hippybearyou will have to keep it unplugged and manually build everything18:23
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konradosPici,  - I misspelled your nickname, I wanted to say that this "google.com" link was my testing, I wasn't telling anybody to use google.18:23
Picikonrados: I saw it anyway.18:23
hippybearrepo versions will probably give you issues over dependencies and updating versions18:23
konradosOK, cool18:23
TEB1992hibbybear yes18:24
TEB1992hibbybear: I want to download Kubuntu Netbook Verison 10.04 LTS I know it Long Term Support but I was wondering can I still recive updates from different other application like VLC and other stuff to...18:25
ducasseTEB1992: 10.04 is eol18:26
TEB1992Can you be more clear please I downloaded the version that was LTS18:27
ducasseTEB1992: eol = end of life. no longer supported.18:27
konradosOK, so to put it short - I modified "/var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-www-browser" file, should I do anything else?18:27
konrados*to make it shorted18:27
kicksledkonrados: afaik chrome should be default18:27
PiciTEB1992: Ubuntu versions are named after the YEAR.MONTH of release. 10.04 was released in April 2010, its over 5 years old now and is no longer supported.18:27
samldo I need dnsmasq?18:27
samlis it safe to remove/disable it?18:27
TEB1992Kubuntu 10.04.4 LTS (Lucid Lynx) is not supported anymore18:28
TEB1992is that what you are saying18:28
ducasseTEB1992: yes.18:29
konradoskicksled, but when I do "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" I get "error: /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-www-browser corrupt: unexpected end of file while trying to read slave name" - is there a syntax error here: http://pastebin.com/nNN11ARW or somewhere else?18:29
TEB1992ducasse so why does the company put LTS if it not going to be a long term support am I seeing it wrong18:29
wafflejockTEB1992, as mentioned versions are named based on the year and month released 10.04 was 2010 and 04 month or april18:29
ducasseTEB1992: 'long term' does not mean forever.18:29
wafflejockTEB1992, it's cleared shown here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases18:30
wafflejockTEB1992, it's expected that at least every 4 years you upgrade to get newer software that will get security patches18:30
SircleI plugged nvs quadro 420 and 450 http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_420_us.html and http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_450_us.html and I saw only 2 out of 4 LCDs were shown as connected in xrandr -q. Other 2 as disconneced. I plugged that on an other machine having windows, I got all 4 working. A) any clues why? B) whats the minimum most costly card with 3-4 display at a time (for18:31
Sirclemultiseat) is 100% supported by ubuntu?18:31
Sircleppf: ^18:31
noboody;]18:31
noboody[;18:31
TEB1992waflejock: or ducasse: Am running a netbook it has a intel atom it has a CPU of 1.97 GHz Proccessor 2GB of ram it very slow machine I can't really do a lot on it I want to load something that will make it better fell is there a netbook editon of ubuntu that I can try18:31
OerHeksthere is no longer a netbook edition.18:32
konradoskicksled, you think this is the way: http://askubuntu.com/a/714730 >18:32
konrados?18:32
OerHeksleightweight distro would be xubuntu or lubuntu18:32
wafflejockTEB1992, ^^18:32
kicksledkonrados: yeah18:33
wafflejockTEB1992, xubuntu or lubuntu are graphically less demanding so will run much better on slower hardware18:33
konradossec...18:34
Sircleanyone ever used ubuntu with multi display card?18:36
wafflejockSircle, yeah have 2 monitors here now usually works fine what's up18:37
tgm4883I'm on two monitors right now18:37
Sirclewafflejock: tried more than 2 ever? I am trying multi seat18:37
wafflejockSircle, mmm only had 2 work for me but only tried 3 on Intel4000 which I don't think is able to deal with that18:38
wafflejockSircle, have seen a handful of more than 2 though18:38
tgm4883Sircle: I've turned off my laptop monitor, but I've had it on before in a 3 monitor setup18:38
OerHeksdual cards, you'll need to write a proper xorg.conf AFAIK18:38
elisa87can someone help me with this (or editting it?)? I am not very good in putting the situation into words http://askubuntu.com/questions/842111/manipulating-files-in-large-scale18:39
Sircletgm4883: how? USB video cards?18:39
Sirclecan I plug 2 graphic cards and use both at same time? Looks like I cannot. Nor more than 2 ports of a card.18:39
tgm4883Sircle: my laptop has a VGA and mini-display port18:39
Sirclewafflejock:  tgm4883 OerHeks ^18:39
SircleOerHeks:  ok, so without xorg.conf, I CANNOT use more than one card or even more than 2 ports in a card?18:40
Sircletgm4883:  so those vga and mini display port be turned to multi seat?18:41
tgm4883Sircle: oh, multi-seat18:41
tgm4883Sircle: maybe? IDK, I've not tried multi-seat18:41
tgm4883Sircle: you'd likely need a custom xorg.conf for that18:42
konradosanother test: http://google.com18:43
Sircletgm4883: but the cards should pickup. my 2 port of same card shows disconnected and 2 display. (xrandr)18:44
Sircletgm4883:  do I need xorg config for that even?18:44
tgm4883Sircle: IDK, I've not really dealt with multi-card systems except for hybrid laptop setups18:45
konradosIt didn't work kicksled - I have this now: http://pastebin.com/2ptpCd1d - but still this damn ff fires when I click on a link here... is there anything more I should do....... ?18:45
kicksledkonrados: what desktop environment are you using?18:45
konradosKDE, kicksled18:45
OerHeksSircle, with multiset you want 2 xorg.conf https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/936873/-howto-multiseat-with-ubuntu-16-04-systemd-gdm-proprietary-drivers/18:46
kicksledkonrados: and you can't set default browser via system settings - default applications?18:46
konradoskicksled I tried that in the first place, but I'll try again, sec...18:47
konradosIt's "google-chrome" kicksled18:48
kicksledkonrados: strange..18:48
SircleOerHeks:  why is that? why 2xorg.conf are needed?18:50
thegamerhello18:50
OerHeksSircle, you want multiseat, = 2 users18:50
SircleOerHeks:  and without even going to multiseat, the displays should not be shown as disconneced in xrandr -q. No?18:50
konradosYeah, but I need to solve this, my knowledge is so poor when it comes to linux, kicksled - is there something else I can try? I even tried to simply uninstall the FF but I got the issues like: http://pastebin.com/LQ5iHZRq18:50
konradossec.. kicksled  this time I think I managed to remove ff, after those "update-alternatives --remove-all ... " commands, sec...18:52
OerHeksIt all depends on what cards and what connections, vga/dvi/dvi-d/hdmi/dp, without xorg.conf the max is 3 monitors maybe18:52
konradostest: http://google.com18:52
kicksledkonrados: and sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-www-browser x-www-browser /usr/bin/google-chrome 40 also fails?18:52
MonkeyDustkonrados  stop. use #test18:53
OerHeksor make it https18:53
konradosI tried that yesterday, the same error, but now I managed to delete ff, and now chrome starts up, as I wanted :) Thank you kicksled !18:53
konradosMonkeyDust, - OK, I'll stop, I was frustrated18:54
OerHeksmake sure all browsers have 'check if <browser> is default' disabled, and logout, login and remove whatever18:54
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konradosOerHeks - thanks, now I have only one browser, and it's enough for me right now, later I'll have to install ff anyway, but not in the next days :) Btw - yes, I tried that too.18:54
kicksledkonrados: glad it worked out one way, strange problem you had there18:55
SircleOerHeks:  and without even going to multiseat, the displays should not be shown as disconneced in xrandr -q. No?18:55
SircleOerHeks:  sorry for repeat.18:56
SircleOerHeks: is there a limit of default detectable displays to 3?18:56
konradoskicksled, yeah, I had no such problems before, actually, I usually managed to solve this using GUI only, thanks again.18:56
konradosFinally... after two days...18:56
stan_man_canHey all. Whats the best way to monitor a group of servers? I have 6 servers around the world all serving the same website. Users get routed to a specific server via Constellix DNS Geo Proximity and Source GTD. Each region has a different amount of traffic, so I need to be able to monitor/view graphics of each machine18:56
MyFightSongi use ff to test if chrome has bugs or the site18:56
stan_man_canAny good way to do that? They're just VPS's at Digital Ocean.18:57
OerHeksSircle, It all depends on what cards and what connections, vga/dvi/dvi-d/hdmi/dp18:57
stan_man_cannot sure if there's a third party I should be using or what18:57
SircleOerHeks:  all ports are dvi18:57
ducassestan_man_can: munin, maybe.18:57
dxiristan_man_can: or nagios18:58
MonkeyDuststan_man_can  is this useful https://landscape.canonical.com/18:58
dxiriin fact..for 6 servers you can use nagios XI18:58
stan_man_canthanks guys i'll check those out18:58
dxiriwhich is commercially supported nagios, very expensive but FREE for less than 10 hosts :)18:58
Guest44331guys, how do I safely remove network manager? I attempted to right now but it also wants to remove ubuntu-desktop among others18:59
stan_man_canI'm a developer not a sysadmin so this stuff isn't my forte. However, I setup a free API about 5 years ago and it's usage has exploded lately. 1 year ago it was doing about 1m req/m and now it's about 35m req/m and growing18:59
stan_man_candxiri, awesome thanks18:59
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SircleOerHeks:  is there any such limited stated? (in a config file or so) or at system level?19:00
stan_man_candxiri, looks like it's 7 hosts now not 1019:01
stan_man_canYes! Nagios XI is available free of charge for monitoring small environments. Nagios XI installations with a free license are limited to monitoring seven (7) hosts (nodes).19:01
dxiriguess 7 is a sweeter spot to charge for it than 10 then :P19:01
dxiriit used to be 1019:01
stan_man_canlol19:01
dxiriits really cool stuff...takes away most of nagios complexity19:02
dxiriyou download a VM, put it somewhere where it can reach your hosts19:02
dxiriand you set the ips and off you go19:02
dxiriit should detect what you are running and monitor the basic stuff19:02
dxirithen you can tune what to monitor19:03
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stan_man_cani'm assuming you have to install a client or something on the servers?19:03
SircleOerHeks: there?19:04
C0r3What time does ubuntu pushes the updates?19:05
PiciC0r3: When they're ready.19:05
SircleI plugged nvs quadro 420 and 450 http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_420_us.html and http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_450_us.html and I saw only 2 out of 4 LCDs were shown as connected in xrandr -q. Other 2 as disconneced. I plugged that on an other machine having windows, I got all 4 working. A) any clues why? B) whats the minimum most costly card with 3-4 display at a time (for19:06
Sirclemultiseat) is 100% supported by ubuntu?19:06
dxiristan_man_can: depends on how much you want to monitor19:06
dxiricould be agentless using plain ssh19:06
dxirior you could use one of the nagios agents and install that on your 6 boxes19:07
dxiriagents give you more control at the expense of having something to install19:07
Guest28463Anyone here familiar with Ubuntu snap?19:07
OerHeksSircle, then i guess you still need an xorg19:09
C0r3Pici: Is there a specific time? Like at 00:00 Hrs??19:09
ducasseGuest28463: just ask your question.19:09
PiciC0r3: Nope.  They just push them when they're done working on them.19:10
hackerii_org19:10
C0r3Oh.. Okay. Thanks.19:10
Sircleherekun:  why ubuntu had stopped cards to display all ports/lcds by default? why does it not auto detects?19:11
ducasseSircle: ubuntu does nothing to stop them working, you need to configure your drivers and x server correctly.19:14
Sircleducasse:  if 2 ports out of four are detected and working, why the other 2 not auto detected (after all its the same card we are talking about)?19:15
Sircleducasse:  the other 2 ports are shown as disconnected in xrandr -q. Why?19:16
Sircleducasse:  I cant plug 2 cards also19:16
Sircleonly one works19:16
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de-factohmm how come i get displayed *just* the i386 packages in a repo instead of the correct (and also available) amd64 packages? .(19:17
Sircleducasse:  I had already selected the recommended drivers of card in extrra drivers app19:17
Sircleducasse: OerHeks ?19:17
de-factocan i somehow tell dpkg/apt to ignore all i386 and just *always* use amd64?19:19
ducasseSircle: i know nothing about the nvidia drivers, i avoid them as much as possible. have you seen this? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_multiseat19:20
Sircleducasse:  its not about multiseat yet. I should get a display at least when I pluch 4 lcds in a 4 port card19:20
Guest17062de-facto: use19:21
Guest17062deb [ arch=amd64 ] ...19:21
Guest17062in sources.list19:21
Sircleducasse:  signing off. THanks19:21
ducasseSircle: take a look at that article, it explains how to set up what you want.19:21
MohammadHello19:22
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Guest28463I know how to install a snap but I can't find any info at all on how to backup said data from snap application. For ex, nextcloud is available in snap. Suppose I want a backup of the data contained within the snap itself?19:23
Guest61747Anybody can help me?19:23
de-factoGuest17062 thanks but that seems to make no difference, it displays the <pkg>:i386 versions just19:23
de-factoi really dont want to download them all manually :( grrr19:24
Guest17062you did an apt update?19:24
ducasseGuest61747: the data is saved wherever it would normally be saved, in your homedir or whatever.19:24
ducasseGuest28463: ^^19:24
de-factoGuest17062 yes aand reload in synaptic19:25
Guest28463ducasse, I've looked and looked.. I've even done a dir size x-reference before and after dumping huge files in.. no change.19:25
Guest28463ducasse, are you speculating or do you know snappy workings?19:26
ducasseGuest28463: i know it's not saved inside the snap, because that is read only.19:26
Guest28463ducasse, agree.19:26
Guest28463ducasse, how would i monitor file size changes in terminal? Maybe that would give me a clue19:27
ducasseGuest28463: for something like nextcloud i would think you could configure where data is saved, if not ask whoever built the snap.19:29
de-factocan i somehow tell synaptic to never ever display i386 packages?19:29
mahmutturk var mı :D19:29
Guest28463ducasse, it's in /var/snap19:29
Guest28463ducasse, so far it doesn't.. im just experimenting with snap but there's no way in hell i would use it without knowing how to restore it on another server :)19:30
abhishekhi guys!19:31
abhishekAny ideas on this one http://askubuntu.com/questions/842134/acpi-warning-argument-4-type-mismatch?19:31
OerHeksabhishek, KDE neon, better ask in #kubuntu19:32
de-factolol should i scroll in 53462 packages in arch:amd64 because synaptic search is broken (displaying i386)?19:33
abhishekOerHeks, thanks for the suggestion. But it seems more on the side bios and neon is 16.04.19:33
abhishekWhich may make relevant here I guess. :)19:34
ducasseabhishek: not really, kde neon is not ubuntu, it's a derivative.19:35
abhishekducasse, but it uses ubuntu-core package right? Sry I am new to ubuntu.19:36
de-factothis is ridiculous, why cant i just choose that it prefers amd64 and dont display the wrong arch on searches?19:36
OerHeksducasse, synaptic, bottom option: architecture19:37
OerHeks...19:37
ducasseabhishek: it is not an official flavor, so not supported here.19:38
newbie|2Anyone wanna help me with teamviewer?19:43
de-factoOerHeks i guess that was meant for me? sure i can scroll in 53462 packages, that is what i did now, but searches wont remember the previously selected arch there (then it goes to search results tab)19:44
newbie|2I sse "teamviewerd -d" in task manager. But no GUI pops up, so I can't use it19:45
CtrlChi, what's the easiest way to have phantomjs on ubuntu?19:47
de-factocan i set that in internal option Variable->Value somehow maybe?19:48
CtrlCI need to make an installation script and phantomjs is a part of it.19:48
ducassenewbie|2: are you sure that's the frontend process? sounds like a daemon.19:48
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de-factohmm i give up, i guess multiarch is broken for this19:53
speederhow I make a DNS be 100% automatic?19:54
speederie: given to me by the DHCP server19:55
speederI tried using NetworkManager to set all to auto, but it still doesn't work, if I cat /etc/resolv.conf I still get some bogus DNS addresses (with a comment on top saying it was generated by NetworkManager)19:55
akikspeeder: the 127.0.1.1 is the address of dnsmasq started by network-manager19:56
akikspeeder: network-manager knows then the correct dns server addresses19:57
speederI am not seeing a 127 address19:57
speederI am getting some random stuf19:57
speederlike 186.120.1.25219:57
apb1963_what video editing software is available?  I need to modify a .mp4 which is essentially just a powerpoint presentation in .mp4 format as far as I know..  I tried to get avidemux2.6-qt4 but it's not in the Xenial.19:58
Southern_Gentlemspeeder you shouldnt see a 127 address19:58
speederso, what I SHOULD see, and where?19:58
akiknameserver 127.0.1.119:58
speederthe ubuntu machines are the only ones in my network that refuse to connect to any website19:58
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apb1963_ubuntu 16.0420:00
speederI tried doing cat /etc/resolv.conf and I get a comment about it being generated by networkmanager, and then several random IPs that are NOT the ones I want.20:00
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speedermy networkmanager app I set everything to auto, no global DNS setting, no static DNS anywhere20:01
apb1963_newbie|2, try "teamviewer"20:01
apb1963_speeder, 14.04 ?20:02
akikspeeder: are you in a corporate environment with some extra provisioning server or is still a stand-alone installation?20:02
speederapb1963_: recently it was updated to 16.0420:02
speederakik: there are no server controlling the network directly ,each machien has its own configuration20:03
apb1963_speeder, I could never get network manager to work in 14.04.  16.04 was a fresh install for me and networking simply worked.20:03
speeder:/20:04
terriblei have ubuntu 16 xenial installed and i want to know if i can set the unity launcher in dodge mode only hide when a windows show up20:05
apb1963_speeder, was it working for you in 14.04 ?20:05
speederapb1963_: yes20:06
speederI think20:06
OerHeksterrible, check out unitytweak-tool20:06
speederI am not 100% sure, it isn't my machine20:06
OerHeks!info unitytweak-tool20:06
ubottuPackage unitytweak-tool does not exist in yakkety20:06
apb1963_speeder, so you didn't make any manual.... oh... yeah... I have a feeling you have some leftovers from manual config.20:06
OerHeks!info unity-tweak-tool20:06
ubottuunity-tweak-tool (source: unity-tweak-tool): configuration tool for the Unity desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.7ubuntu2 (yakkety), package size 367 kB, installed size 2797 kB20:06
speederany idea on how I track it down?20:07
speederor how I reset the DNS?20:07
speederI couldn't figure how to make networkmanager change the /etc/resolv.conf file at all20:07
speederdisabling it, changing connection, etc... nothing worked20:07
speederI didn't tried inputting a manual DNS though20:07
apb1963_speeder, take a look under /etc/network* and see if you see anything20:07
speederwill do20:07
apb1963_*anything amiss20:08
ducassespeeder: also look under /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d20:08
speederwhoa20:08
newbie|2ducasse: I had installed it.  From the "internet" tab, I just chose "teamviewer 11"20:09
terribleOerHeks: i already did but it doesnt give the option that i want only hide and auto-hide20:09
newbie|2apb1963_: I will try that20:09
apb1963_what video editing software is available?  I need to modify a .mp4 which is essentially just a powerpoint presentation in .mp4 format as far as I know..  I tried to get avidemux but it's not in Xenial.20:11
MonkeyDustapb1963_  there's openshot20:13
ducasseapb1963_: i know of kdenlive and openshot, never tried any of them.20:13
speederalright20:13
speeder /etc/reoslvconf/resolv.conf.d/ has two files, "head" and another one, that is empty20:14
speederthe "head" one has only a comment saying it is an automatically generated file20:14
terribleOerHeks: any help?20:14
speederI also deleted /etc/resolv.conf20:14
apb1963_Yeah... saw the reviews... the "over my head" reviews... can't tell if any of them will do what I want without installing them :/  avidemux seemed to be the ticket but... not in Xenial and I've learned to be afraid of ppa's.20:15
apb1963_alrighty... thanks guys :)20:15
apb1963_speeder, I have the same20:15
ducassespeeder: 'head' and 'base' are actually used for generating the final resolv.conf file.20:16
speederI have no final resolv.conf file anywhere now20:16
speederand can't figure how to make a new one20:17
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dn`Is there a way to figure out at which pci address e.g. ‘/sys/kernel/debug/dri/4/‘ is connected? (amdgpu)20:18
ducassespeeder: 'resolvconf -u', i think20:18
apb1963_speeder, pastebin /etc/network/interfaces20:19
Jsync& for other a comment to you, Mr. Spider on the ceiling, being an individual named Jason that's in a relationship with a female with a Zeus Spouse Name Similarity, "It's good because it's truly good. It's like walking on the ground".20:22
PiciJsync: excuse me?20:22
apb1963_Google says, The resolvconf -u command only updates resolv.conf from resolvconf's own database. You need to update the database.  To update the database you have to call resolvconf with the -a or -d option.20:23
speederfound the solution to my problem20:23
speederhttp://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/280264/no-dns-resolution-after-upgrade-from-ubuntu-14-04-to-16-0420:23
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speederwhat is missing is this line: sudo ln -s ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf20:23
logikosI have a windows10 company laptop, boss wants to keep windows on it and have it be the default boot option but is allowing me to dual boot linux.  I resized the windows partition and added 3 partitions for linux (/, /home, swap) then installed xubuntu .. however after installation when it reboots ubuntu is not a boot option .. its not loading grub (i think)20:24
JsyncYou didn't deserve that much "consideration", & that wasn't really about you, regardless that I directed the comment to you. ;)20:24
speederseemly updating upbuntu from 14.04 to 16.04 craps out due to different expectations about resolv.conf being a symlink20:24
JsyncJust because I squint, that doesn't mean you're brilliant. I mean, "Hell"!! :)20:24
logikosIf i hit F12 during boot i get boot options which only has the option for windows (unless my live usb is inserted then i have an option for it also)20:24
logikosboth windows and ubuntu are using UEFI20:25
logikosany idea where i went wrong or how i can fix it?20:25
apb1963_speeder, I don't think that's the solution.  Did it actually fix all your problems, or just restore /etc/resolv.conf ?20:26
speederapb1963_: following the solution there that has upvotes fixed all my network woes :)20:28
speederso the problem was literally a missing symlink20:28
speeder(the other stuff I already had done)20:28
apb1963_that doesn't make sense... unless you actually did delete a file, not a link20:28
speederapb1963_: taht is the thing, Ubuntu 14 seemly DIDN'T used that as a symlink, and Ubuntu 16 DOES20:29
speederthus networkmanager was happily updating a dns file that my programs never read20:29
akikspeeder: it's a symlink in 14.04 too20:29
speederthen what happened to the symlink?20:29
speedermaybe it linked different places?20:30
apb1963_speeder, we'll never know.  You said you deleted /etc/resolv.conf20:30
speederapb1963_: I did, with a rm, like the first line in the solution20:30
apb1963_speeder, There went all the evidence.20:30
speederafter I gave up in figuring why it wasn't updating20:30
MonkeyDustspeeder  shouldnt have rm'd it, rather renamed it to foo.bak or so20:31
apb1963_speeder, To know, we'd have had to see what /etc/resolv.conf really was... a file or a link.  However, why it would be a file in the first place... perhaps your predecessor was monkeying.20:31
apb1963_speeder, well, it works... happy happy.20:32
apb1963_I'm off to the video editing races.... tally ho!20:32
speederI did tried writing into resolv.conf before erasing it, it never got error, but never got edited either20:32
speeder(using cat >)20:32
speederecho >20:32
speederor both20:32
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akikspeeder: that's why the file says not to edit it manually20:35
speederakik: I only tried to edit it manually to see what would happen20:35
speederI never wanted anything manual20:35
terribleis there a way to replace unity launcher for cairo-dock or another dock bar??20:35
speederI have 4 DNS servers provided by my network20:35
speedersometimes more20:35
speedermanual config usually has less20:35
JsyncThe point is, if you don't realize it's a huge security risk to the system & a profound detriment to the global human population now & in the future within a context that the published Lune Names are Greek Pagan Deity Names (mostly female spouse names) & the published Planet Names actually are false names (not associated in slightest context!!), then you people were not as aware as my first comodore!! It's a good technical point, while 20:36
vin3anyone using Smuxi knows how to edit colors of background?20:37
vin3founded20:39
Picivin3: #smuxi supposedly exists here on freenode20:39
marcofehello everybody20:41
yokisuci:q20:44
sayan97 /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER sayan97 orhtpytpcexe20:44
Pici(its not a password)20:45
ikoniaoops/win 1420:50
IranyAnyone here has used Kubuntu AND Ubuntu + KDE?20:53
IranyKubuntu is lighter?20:53
JustAnotherIdiothow do I make a fake domain? I want the domain vw point to my vps's ip20:53
bindiJustAnotherIdiot: add it to /etc/hosts20:54
JustAnotherIdiotoh ok20:54
JustAnotherIdiotis there a way to have ssh by default login with root instead my username?20:56
bindidisable root login where ever you are using it20:57
bindiit's not safe20:57
JustAnotherIdiotno20:57
chubinouJustAnotherIdiot: maybe with ssh_config20:58
bindi:|20:58
JustAnotherIdiotI use ssh keys20:58
JustAnotherIdiotI don't see how it would make a difference20:58
JustAnotherIdiotit would just be more of an annoyance20:59
chubinouin .ssh/config   Host *\n\tUser root21:00
OerHeksJustAnotherIdiot, it would be annoyance when default was root.21:00
OerHeksso set it properly to your conveniance21:00
JsyncI'd like to make a real quick point about "TRUTH", then I'll stop commenting: It's FALSE to suggest that the eye inverts an image to the brain. The suggestion that the eye sees what's upside down is a detriment to the concept of science of a consequence of invaders' descendants within the North American Continental borders. "This land is Mayan". If it were really so that the eye inverts an image that is transmitted to the brain, then th21:04
ikoniacsop21:04
chubinouHello, I upgraded recently my (k)ubuntu from 16.04 to 16.10 and since my screen is blinking, I already tried to downgrade my kernel and video driver but it doesn't make a difference. My computer is a laptop with an "NVIDIA Corporation GM107M [GeForce GTX 850M]" and a intel chipset21:06
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chubinoudmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23385457/21:08
chubinou  /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23385469/21:09
CtrlCWhat is the easiest way to give out a https proxy?21:14
Free99Hello everyone, I'm on 16.04.1 x64, fully updated. I'm using a CFD application which leans real hard on my CPU to where the system completely freezes. I can't figure out what's up as there are no old syslog or dmesg entries when I reboot and look at the old logs, I tried using the kexec crashdump thing but I can't get that working either. Any ideas?21:15
insymkmvd19321:21
MonkeyDustthis page still mentions Breezy Badger as minimum requirement for CFD ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenFOAM21:22
Free99lol21:22
Free99I'm using COMSOL multiphysics 5.221:22
Free99I've never seen the kernel do a full freeze because the load was too high21:23
AndChat728121Could anyone spare a few moments to help me set up my partitions? I've been googling for a while but due to the way my Windows 7 partitions are setup, I'm having a lot of issues.21:24
Ben64AndChat728121: explain21:25
AndChat728121sda1 is "Windows Boot", sda2 is "Windows Recovery Environment", sda3 is C:/, sda4 is free.21:26
AndChat728121But preferably I want a home partition, a swap partition and a partition for Ubuntu but I seem to not be able to do that.21:27
Ben64ok, you should be able to make sda4 extended, and put everything else inside that21:27
AndChat728121Nope, extended is not an option.21:27
AndChat728121Only physical and logical.21:27
usr13sda4 is free?21:27
AndChat728121Yup. But there's no option to select extended.21:28
Ben64can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"21:28
AndChat728121That's what my searches led me to.21:28
usr13logical21:28
usr13AndChat728121: Actually, you'll just delete it and re-create it21:29
AndChat728121I'm pretty sure I tried that. Give me a minute to boot back into the DVD.21:29
usr13AndChat728121: But you said "sda3 is c:/"  Really?21:29
o|0_0|v_PeaceHow can I use gcc-4.9 instead of gcc 6.2.021:29
AndChat728121Well, I presume so. It doesn't say anything.21:30
o|0_0|v_PeaceUbuntu 16.0421:30
usr13AndChat728121: Ok, well I guess it could be....21:30
AndChat728121I can take a picture in a moment.21:30
AndChat728121Just messing around trying to get into WRE at the moment.21:30
Ben64o|0_0|v_Peace: you don't21:30
usr13AndChat728121: sda1 is usually C:\21:30
o|0_0|v_PeaceBen64 Never under any circumstances?21:30
usr13AndChat728121: How large is sda4?21:30
Ben64o|0_0|v_Peace: doesn't seem like it's in the repositories, so probably not21:31
o|0_0|v_PeaceRight on, thank you.21:31
AndChat728121I'll let you know as soon as I boot into the DVD again, sorry. I came unprepared!21:31
usr13AndChat728121: What you might do is use gparted live CD to delete sda421:32
usr13AndChat728121: http://gparted.org/livecd.php21:32
usr13AndChat728121: But you might even be able to use MS Windows' own partition manager to do it.21:33
john_106hi guys, can you hel pout with a lubuntu issue?21:33
usr13john_106: Sure....21:34
AndChat728121Need to get into WRE first and reinstall Windows. This computer was donated to me earlier so I've only just gotten my hands on it. Seems that the Windows install I'd pretty borked.21:34
usr13AndChat728121: Just install Ubuntu and ditch MS Windows.  :)21:34
AndChat728121I need VS for University.21:35
AndChat728121Amongst other things.21:35
usr13AndChat728121: Half the work, twice the satisfaction. :)21:35
usr13AndChat728121: VS?21:35
AndChat728121Visual Studio.21:35
john_106im running fresh 16.10 lubuntu, I'm expecting xterm in the "?other" menu but instead have 2 instances of "image magick"21:35
Free99My fully updated ubuntu 16.04.1 x64 system is crashing when I apply a moderate load to it... can anyone help?21:36
Free99this is how the system froze: http://s11.postimg.org/uqfmpp1pv/crash.jpg21:36
ikoniaFree99: define crashing21:36
usr13AndChat728121: Here is what I suggest:  Install Linux, use VirtualBox to install MS Windows and then you'll have your VS21:37
Free99ikonia, I am running a multiphysics application (COMSOL) which has always worked in the past, but now seems to completely halt the system. SysRq doesn't work, ctrl-f1 nada, nothing21:37
ikoniaFree99: it seems to only be hitting one core too21:37
usr13AndChat728121: ... that way, you can get started now...21:38
usr13AndChat728121: Is it Windows 10 or Windows 7 ?21:38
ikoniaFree99: if sysrq is not responding it's normally a hardware lock,21:38
Free99ikonia, it leaves no trace of what happened in the logs, I tried using linux-crashdump to help but to no avail.21:39
Free99hmm21:39
ikoniaFree99: I'm having a similar problem with a different distro, so I can appreciate how frustrating it is21:39
ikoniaFree99: I'm currently running a 100 hour memcheck21:39
Free99I can get this to happen literally every time, within about 5 minutes21:40
ikoniaFree99: it doesn't always mean it is a hardware problem, but it is the most common situation, so like you, I need to remove that doubt as best possible21:40
Free99frustrating to say the least, trying to get some work done21:40
ikoniaFree99: I can do it in under 321:40
Free99lol sheesh21:40
ikoniaFree99: it's annoying as hell, I fully feel your pain21:40
ikoniaI've had to migrate my dhcp service to another device as it was having a huge impact21:41
Free99ikonia, think it could be a kernel issue?21:41
Free99I'm on 4.4.0-4521:41
de-factoi got this too, and i guess for me its nvidia, so might not be related then21:41
ikoniaFree99: is that a stock kernel ?21:41
Free99yes, EFI signed21:41
ikoniaFree99: why do you think it's a kernel problem out of interest21:41
ikoniaFree99: thats the kernel that ubuntu ships with ?21:42
lgomezclwhat21:42
lgomezclññ21:43
Free99well when I was on 14.04 I had kernel 4.2 on one previous hardware revision of this laptop21:44
Free99ikonia, unfortunately I chose to install 16.04 on this new revision of the laptop at the same time as the laptop itself was new, so whether its a hardware issue or kernel issue requires sniffing around for clues21:44
AndChat728121Oh dear.21:45
AndChat728121So, I can get onto one of the Windows user accounts but the admin account password is... lost to the ages. So I can't even reinstall Windows using the built-in recovery partition.21:45
AndChat728121Would it maybe be easier to just wipe the entire HDD, install Ubuntu and leave some space for Windows and deal with the later?21:45
ikoniaFree99: I can see why you'd make that initial assumption as it's "locking" and the kernel isn't responding to sysrq21:45
ikoniaFree99: are there any crash dumps ?21:45
Free99AndChat728121, it's easier to install windows first because it doesn't respect bootloaders of others21:45
ikoniaFree99: install the kernel debug symbols incase you manage to get a crash dump21:45
AndChat728121But last time I did something like that I lost the ability to boot at all.21:45
Free99ikonia, no crash dumps which is why I'm wondering what's going on21:46
AndChat728121Crap! I guess I need to research if it's possible to hack a W7 admin account. Fun.21:46
ikoniaFree99: and thats the sign that points more at hardware (again not fact), I'm having the same, 1 crash dump after about 4 days of dumping every 3 - 7 minutes21:46
Free99AndChat728121, it sure is possible21:46
Free99AndChat728121, http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/21:46
ikoniaFree99: I'd suggest you start getting some confidence your hardware is fine, as thats the first point to rule out21:46
de-factoAndChat728121 maybe you can reset your windows password with sth like http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/  (carefull and at own risk!)21:46
AndChat728121Worth a shot. There is nothing of value on the entire HDD.21:47
abhishekhi21:48
abhishekwhy doesn't unattended-upgrades work?21:49
abhishekhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23385604/21:49
abhishekany ideas?21:50
hippybearit did21:51
hippybearNo packages found that can be upgraded unattended and no pending auto-removals21:51
hippybearRun 'apt list --upgradable21:51
hippybearalso shouldnt neon have its own room?21:52
AndChat728121Ah ha. Need admin to setup USB tethering. Computer has no wireless support. Ethernet not possible, no modem/router, only a phone with unlimited data. Kill me now.21:52
de-factouse cdrom or usbstick21:56
AndChat728121Hopefully ntpaswd will work when burned to a DVD but it mentions only CDs. Only one way to find out!21:56
de-factoneat-to-have cd/dvd anyhow ;)21:57
juanonymousHello my unity disappeared after i opened confiz-settings-manager21:58
AndChat728121Why is nothing ever easy?21:58
juanonymousTried alt-cltl-t to get into the terminal21:58
juanonymousBut it seems gone too21:59
juanonymousAnything to resolve this issue?21:59
de-factojuanonymous if you cant get a TTY with Alt Ctrl F1-F? then you might need SysRQ to reboot maybe: Ctr Shift Print + {R,E,I,S,U,B] (hold Ctrl Shift Print and then type those letters slowly, then release all keys)22:00
OerHeksconfiz->compiz22:01
OerHeks!info compizconfig-settings-manager22:01
ubottucompizconfig-settings-manager (source: compiz): Compiz configuration settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:0.9.13.0+16.10.20160818.2-0ubuntu2 (yakkety), package size 561 kB, installed size 4487 kB22:01
lakituerasmus, cool nick22:02
erasmusI also have a huge coq.22:03
memo-rmxhola!!!22:03
spacecuboh, hi22:03
memo-rmxque tal!?22:03
spacecubive got a root shell, how do i start a root file-manager from there?22:04
lakitufind your filemanager name and just type it; e.g. "dolphin22:05
lakitu"22:05
insywhats the best way to install cinnamon on ubuntu 16-04 with unity, i dont want the complete install just the desktop manager22:05
spacecublakitu: no ./ first?22:06
lakituno, because it knows it, by being in /usr/sbin or wherever22:06
lakitu/usr/bin, etc22:06
spacecubworked, thanky :)22:06
lakituyep22:06
debkadif it is a gui best to use gksu/gksudo22:07
lakitudebkad probabyl knows better than me there, spacecub22:08
lakituprobably i mean.22:08
juanonymousDe-facto i am now at tty22:09
juanonymousAny instructions on what to do next?22:10
juanonymousPlease22:10
protndo we have DiffMerge like stuff in repo?22:16
protngui diff tool22:16
hippybearprotn, http://meldmerge.org ?22:17
Free99ikonia, so I got my system to crash with "stress-ng --syslog -v --cpus 1 --vm 2 --vm-bytes 4G --timeout 120s", and it never came back after 120s22:17
protnsimilar22:17
protnty22:17
hippybearyou can also use diff from terminal22:18
hippybeardiff or colordiff22:18
debkador cmp may be22:18
Free99my system has 8G ram, plus 2g swap.. I ran stress-ng as my regular user so it'd still be subject to OOM killing, why didn't that work?22:19
protnwhats the easiest way to use diff to see if two dirs got same files or not?22:19
Ben64diff dir_a dir_b22:20
protnkl22:20
AndChat728121ntpaswd worked. I could kiss you guys.22:25
AndChat728121s/s/ss22:25
Free99AndChat728121, it even works on windows 10 lol22:26
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AndChat728121Amazing22:26
juanonymousFuck22:27
AndChat728121I'm resetting Windows to factory settings now and then I can finally install Ubuntu. ^_^22:27
juanonymousI could not even boot to the system now22:27
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hippybeartoast.OS22:28
hippybearlol22:28
hippybearbeen there22:28
hippybearFree99, nothing works on windows 1022:28
hippybearlol22:28
AndChat728121I bet the tracking works really really well.22:29
Free99oh dude tell me about it, I have to use it on a tablet for my engineering job, the touch interface absolutely stinks even on apps written to use the touch libraries22:29
vin3juanonymous: can I help u?22:30
StumpDumbHello...Is there a way to low level format a hard drive?22:30
SwedeMikeStumpDumb: what problem are you trying to solve?22:30
Free99bbl guys, thanks22:30
hippybearI paid 3.5k for this brand new top of the line win10 with some fancy bells and whistles and it is the biggest piece of shit I have ever owned22:30
Free99oh one last thing, is memtest still included with grub?22:30
Free99I mean with default ubuntu install22:31
hippybearyupp22:31
AndChat728121OS X > *nix > Win7 > XP > Vista > Scientific Calculators > Household Appliances > Windows 1022:31
hippybearseems legit22:32
Free99thanks hippybear, I hear ya. I'm all for heterogenous clients and stuff but its pretty surprising how bad windows is this time around22:32
AndChat728121Although Apple have been ruining OS X för the last few years22:32
hippybearand their security is a joke22:32
StumpDumbI partitioned a hard drive and installed the Lubuntu install on the partition and it will not go away. I have installed (from USB) Lubuntu several times but it still boots to the installer on the HD partition22:32
hippybearsettings is horrid22:32
linxehuh, osx IS unix22:32
hippybearApple is just an expensive printer22:32
hippybearjust a status symbol22:32
hippybearStumpDumb, did you remove the USB after you installed?22:33
linxehhippybear: no, it's the most practical desktop environment. I even know canonical employees (that work on Unity) that feel that22:33
StumpDumbyes,22:33
hippybearOh people have a different opinion22:33
hippybearthat seems normal22:33
AndChat728121But but but I like the pretty UI. Also my 8 year old stock Mac that still worked perfectly fine until I blew it up the other week ain't no status symbol.22:34
StumpDumbit continuously runs the install from the HD22:34
* nacc feels like we've veered a bit offtopic22:34
hippybearStumpDumb, then where is it picking up the install.iso from?22:34
* hippybear agrees22:34
AndChat728121Yeah, sorry. That was my fault.22:34
* hippybear will rope it back in lol22:34
StumpDumbI partitioned a hard drive and installed the Lubuntu install on the partition and it will not go away. I have installed (from USB) Lubuntu several times but it still boots to the installer on the HD partition22:34
naccStumpDumb: what do you mean by "installed the Lubuntu install"?22:35
StumpDumbI have tried Everything to get rid of the partition that is booting the install22:35
hippybearyoure not really making sense22:36
hippybearhow did you partition?22:36
thgilfodrolsounds like he cloned the installation media to a partition or something22:36
StumpDumbpartitioned drive to 1G, ran Disk Image Writer to that partition and now it seems permanent22:38
catbadger1G?!?!?22:38
mitchellHowdy!22:38
catbadgerlol22:38
catbadgerhowdy mitchell22:38
naccStumpDumb: I don't know what "Disk Image Writer" is, but why did you partition your hard drive outside of the installer?22:38
StumpDumbthe files are ~850k22:39
mitchellSo Xubuntu is an official flavor of Ubuntu, so I can ask questions here?22:39
mitchellBut my question doesn't have to do with xfce.22:39
naccmitchell: yes22:39
mitchellExcellent.22:39
StumpDumbThe USB install DOES NOT remove the bootable partition on the drive WHY?22:40
naccStumpDumb: did you tell the install to do so?22:41
StumpDumbSo back to my original question How can I low level format a HD?22:41
mitchellSo, I'm having trouble authenticating on the network at work. I disabled networkmanager and installed wicd, which is working, in part because the supplicant that came with networkmanager was not enabled or configured.22:41
mitchellwicd supports what should be the right authentication for my work network.22:41
mitchellBut I still can't authenticate.22:42
StumpDumbIn the install it asks how to set up the drive, the first selection is erase disk completely, it does not22:42
mitchellOne of the IT guys at work thinks the network is set up to not allow Linux machines to authenticate.22:42
mitchellFirst, is that possible?22:42
mitchellSecond, is there a way I can spoof a Windows configuration to the network authentication software?22:43
StumpDumbThe fourth selection is to manually adjust the partition table, the bootable part is not displayed and is uneffected here also22:43
mitchell(That is, if the answer to the first question is "yes.")22:43
linxehmitchell: yes. should you? no.22:43
mitchellThaanks, linxeh. Could you please elaborate?22:44
linxehmitchell: you can spoof anything - it's just bits over the wire. you said 'at work' - if you don't want to lose your job I'd suggest you don't want to violate their policies (unless you have a waiver allowing you to do this for security research purposes or similar - I've been where you are, and I've been beaten with the stick for not complying)22:45
mitchellToo true, linxeh.22:45
mitchellAnd an *excellent* point.22:45
linxehmitchell: in short, find another job - not like clued up people aren't in demand22:45
AndChat728121What the heck kind of policy is "No Linux" anyway?22:45
mitchelllinxeh, thank you for the compliment.22:45
mitchellIt's not even a *policy*.22:46
akikmitchell: authenticate for any network access?22:46
mitchellIt's just "This doesn't work... now go figure out why. Maybe."22:46
thgilfodrolwait, wouldn't that also prohibit android/chrome os stuff?22:46
mitchellWell, my Android phone gets on their network just fine.22:46
StumpDumbThe install files are 899MB22:46
mitchellThe only competent people in our IT department are the front-line people. Some of them.22:47
homeschooldadHi, I need a little help installing a .deb file from the hard drive.  Sorry for being a neub...22:47
naccStumpDumb: why do you keep saying that?22:47
mitchellLinxeh, I love my job--and it's not even in IT.22:47
naccStumpDumb: you can reformat your hard drive, if booted into linux, with fdisk, cfdisk, parted, etc22:48
Ben64homeschooldad: dpkg -i blah.deb .... but you should find the software you want in the repositories or possibly a PPA before doing manual installs22:48
linxehmitchell: nor mine, I'm a developer22:48
StumpDumbThe bootable partition does not show up in gparted22:48
homeschooldadben22:48
StumpDumbfdisk22:48
mitchelllinxeh... hmmmm. I see software development as IT, but if software development *were* IT, Google would be one huge IT department.22:49
mitchellSo, good point again.22:49
Ben64StumpDumb: then it doesn't exist22:49
mitchellBut I'm an academic law librarian (and a lawyer). I'm just *sick to death* of Windows.22:49
homeschooldadben64 - thanks do I need to cd into the directory that blah.deb is in?22:49
linxehI see IT as those that provision computer systems (which is how pretty much every business and recruitment agency label it too)22:50
Ben64homeschooldad: or specify where it is, yes. but really, installing a deb manually is probably not what you want to do22:50
naccmitchell: linxeh: i feel like this has veered offtopic22:50
homeschooldadBen64 - I tried to use the ubuntu software installer but it craps outs and needs admin password22:51
AndChat728121Okay, I could use some help setting up my partitions. I've reset Windows to factory settings and now I'd like to add 3 partitions for Ubuntu - swap, root, home. But Window is taking up three partitions.22:51
linxehnacc: I would agree; time to switch channels...22:51
Ben64homeschooldad: what are you trying to install? you need admin password to install a deb as well22:51
StumpDumbwen I boot with Only the HD connected, it goes into the Lubuntu install....select language....I have removed all partitions and formated the entire HD, yet it STILL runs the install22:51
AndChat728121I googled this earlier for a while and the solution seems to be "select extended" but it is not an option.22:52
mitchellnacc: Only if you think that stopping me from getting fired while learning about Linux isn't Linux support.22:52
homeschooldadben64 - I have admin.  https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux/22:52
Ben64AndChat728121: did you ever show your partitioning here like it was asked for?22:52
naccmitchell: this isn't "Linux support"22:52
AndChat728121I didn't because I was trying to fix Windows, sorry. I shall do so now, Ben64.22:53
mitchelllinxeh: No, I get it--after you made the implicit distinction.22:53
naccStumpDumb: can you provide the partitioning output for that disk?22:53
naccStumpDumb: you can always zero out the disk, I really don't know what you did to put hte installer on the disk itself, which is rather abnormal22:54
StumpDumbIm looking at FDisk now22:54
Ben64StumpDumb: pastebin the output of 'sudo parted -l'22:55
akikAndChat728121: if you have three primary partitions, you can create the 4th partition as extended, and then create logical partitions under the extended partition22:57
homeschooldadben64 - the file is at the link i posted.  its web conference software22:57
Ben64i know what teamviewer is22:57
AndChat728121Extended ws not an option, only logical and physical. Once Acer stops installing bloatware I will boot immediately into my Ubuntu disc.22:58
akikAndChat728121: i guess the installer hides that extended partition setup from you, but that's what is happening22:59
homeschooldadBen64 - I didn't. sorry - double click doesnt work, and neither does dropping into ubuntu software22:59
Ben64homeschooldad: how does it not work22:59
akiki hate that information is hidden from the user22:59
homeschooldadBen64 - I get a gui with and "instal" button.  I click the install button and it starts and then stops with out installing23:00
AndChat72812110/15 bloatwares installed! What a joke.23:00
StumpDumbJust posted it in pastebin     "Lubuntu Boot"23:00
Ben64homeschooldad: ok so try 'sudo dpkg -i blah.deb'23:00
Ben64StumpDumb: you need to give the link here23:00
homeschooldadok23:00
StumpDumbhttp://pastebin.com/62w8F9M423:01
StumpDumbIs it booting from the zram0, I thot that was cleared on reboot23:02
Ben64what kind of machine is it23:02
StumpDumbIs the machine inquiry for me?23:03
Ben64yes23:03
GuestieI've been using Ubuntu Desktop for the past couple of weeks now. The Ubuntu Software Center is always bugging out. After I've installed packages with it, it still says "install" on the package.23:03
naccGuestie: use gnome-software not hte ubuntu software center23:04
homeschooldadben64- thanks for the help - the file is corrupt.  I'll resort to a (shudder) windoze box for tonight.  =)23:04
naccGuestie: is my recommendation :)23:04
GuestieAnd, I've had it once where it wouldn't install packages, try after try. Is the Ubuntu Software Center a work-in-progress on working out the bugs?23:04
naccGuestie: ubuntu is rmeoving the software-center package probably at some point (from the development release) during this cycle23:05
hanshenrikhow the heck does this happen? http://paste.debian.net/890184/23:06
StumpDumbIts an old machine....Omni OTC-H3122D0023:06
GuestieI am using Ubuntu TLS 16.04. Should I get a new version? I don't have time to have to deal with computer issues, so I don't want to install an unstable version of Ubuntu.23:07
naccGuestie: no, LTS is your best bet if you want stability23:07
naccGuestie: as i said, just use gnome software and it should be fine23:07
protnhmm I used diff merge its gui sucky23:08
protnany tool that shows in GUI itself diff files if any23:08
protndir, file, comparison23:08
TortillionHello!23:08
protn:P23:08
nacchanshenrik: not sure, maybe provide more data like `ls -ahl` output for .ssh?23:09
hanshenriknacc, http://paste.debian.net/hidden/7e042174/23:10
nacchanshenrik: may need to use sudo temporarily just to get the output23:10
hanshenrikhttp://paste.debian.net/hidden/2c237cba/23:11
protnin fact diff merge is nice23:11
protn btw who is girl here?>23:11
naccprotn: irrelevant question for this channel.23:11
protndodge29: hi23:11
protn:P23:11
protnnatalia ok23:11
nacchanshenrik: hrm, you can see that i think your chmod also didn't actually work (o+rwx)23:12
andinohWhich command patches kernel security holes..apt get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade?23:12
hanshenrik nacc seems so. annoying that chmod didnt say anything (and yes i was reading stderr too)23:13
usr13dist-upgrade will find new kernel if there is one.23:13
nacchanshenrik: yeah, is there a reason you've made your .ssh so permissive?23:13
hanshenrikcus now that i did it from root, i can access it from hanshenrik23:13
hanshenriknacc, BECAUSE I COULDNT ACCESS IT. rest assured, i will fix it now23:13
nacchanshenrik: ah sure23:14
hanshenrikchmod -R 0600 .ssh     right?23:14
andinohusr13, thanks..23:14
usr13sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade23:14
nacchanshenrik: 600 for the directory, certainly; not sure of the default perms otherwise23:14
Free99stranger and stranger... memtest reports no errors, but it's obvious that my system crashes when I am running a memory-heavy program23:15
usr13andinoh: It's what I do for updates...23:15
Free99only changes I've made are to swappiness and using dphys-swapfile instead of regular swap23:15
hippybearhanshenrik, isnt it 644?23:15
TortillionI have a Pentium M processor, will Libre Office be slow on my  Lubuntu laptop?23:15
hippybearnvm 60023:15
hanshenrikhippybear, pretty sure that would allow everyone to read my private keys ^^23:15
andinohusr13: will do that..23:15
hippybearFree99, is it KDE?23:15
naccFree99: system crashes or goes OOM? are you out of memory?23:16
hanshenrikhippybear, maybe 644 for my public key23:16
hanshenrik(allow the ssh server to read it?)23:16
Free99no xfce... program causing the crash is COMSOL multiphysics23:16
hippybearI had an issue with it killing my cpu23:16
nacchanshenrik: my public is 644 here, true23:17
naccFree99: what kind of crash?23:17
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leavdTortillion: think you should be ok23:18
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Free99nacc, complete system freeze, no sysrq, no tty23:18
naccFree99: are your disks spinning up trying to swap? do you have a serial console?23:18
TortillionLeavd: Ok thank you for your help23:18
hippybearsame with my KDE23:18
Free99nacc, SSD, no serial console23:18
hippybearloaded the splash screen to 50% then just sits there to eternity23:19
naccFree99: it sounds like you're putting significant memory pressure on your system; not sure you should expect responsiveness23:19
naccFree99: you could try netconsole, etc., to see if the kernel is still up23:19
Free99nacc, thing is when I rung "stress-ng --vm 2 --vm-bytes 4G --timeout 120s" the system stops responding, but never comes back23:20
kicksledTortillion: but if you're having problems Abiword and Gnumeric should be even more lightweight and work better23:20
Free99nacc, I've got 8G ram, 2g swap23:21
Tortillionkicksled: Thank you,  I think LibreOffice is fast enough23:21
hanshenriknacc, i do barely recall something about public key + ssh server + 0644 , i guess that's it ^^23:22
naccFree99: right, so you've overcommitted your system -- i mean 8G of workload on a 10G system, so it's going to swap constantly, probably?23:22
naccFree99: well, to be clear, 8G on a 8G system, with no room for the kernel overhead itself, which means it will swap constantly23:22
Free99nacc, sure there will be pressure, SSD though and I gave it 10 minutes to return... no traces of anything in logs, and I bumped the offending processes oom score adj up to 80023:23
Free99nacc, peep this: http://s11.postimg.org/uqfmpp1pv/crash.jpg23:24
Free99this never happened on 14.0423:24
naccFree99: not really sure; without actually getting the crash output, it's hard to debug anything. The two top processes in that picture are using more RSS than htop says you have, though. So at some point, if you leave htop open, htop stops refreshing?23:27
Free99_sorry, did you say something?23:28
naccFree99_: not really sure; without actually getting the crash output, it's hard to debug anything. The two top processes in that picture are using more RSS than htop says you have, though. So at some point, if you leave htop open, htop stops refreshing?23:30
protnfolks I use diffmerge and it shows 2 dirs got same files yet when I start ftp dir 1 into dir 2 I get same file warning23:31
protn...23:31
Free99_nacc yeah, the whole system stops... clock stops, everything23:31
AndChat728121Ben64 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxnU6N4VAZ5mWC0yZHJlS0R4MDQ/view?usp=drivesdk23:31
protni selected show equivalent files in diffmerge23:31
Free99_but not even sysrq b works23:31
protnwhat I am missing23:32
Ben64AndChat728121: you don't have a free partition23:32
naccFree99_: sounds like you would need a serial console to debug it further (or netconsole, maybe, but if the kernel is locking up that hard, the network stack may be dead)23:32
skinuxLooking for a little help. I've borrowed a portable CD/DVD drive from a friend. It simply connects via USB (ofcourse), I have no software to install. I cannot get Ubuntu to see it at all. Is there some kind of driver I need to install?23:32
Ben64skinux: plug it in, pastebin the output of "dmesg | tail -n50"23:33
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Free99_nacc, perhaps linux-crashdump?23:34
AndChat728121Yes Ben64, sda3 is C:/ and sda4 is D:/, on Windows. If I delete sda4, and then create an Ext4 partition, extended is not an option.23:34
Ben64AndChat728121: logical = extended23:34
OerHekswithout gpt, extended with logical partitions would be your only option23:35
naccFree99_: you could try and setup kdump, yeah23:36
john[m]Fjff23:36
AndChat728121When I delete sda4 and make it logical, I can't add any "child" partitions.23:36
usr13AndChat728121: Well, you would delete sda4 and creating the new partitions can be done with Ubuntu installer's partition manager.23:36
usr13AndChat728121: Why not?23:36
AndChat728121It is all created a a child of sda and named sda5, instead of sda4 like before.23:36
AndChat728121... because the button is greyed out.23:37
OerHeksjust leave the space blanc, let ubuntu do the partitioning23:37
Ben64AndChat728121: sda5 is in the extended partition23:37
AndChat728121Right. Now how do I create a home partition and a swap and one for Ubuntu?23:38
Ben64create more than one partition23:38
AndChat728121It won't let me create more than 423:38
AndChat728121I can't!23:38
Ben64it will23:38
AndChat728121It's greyed out.23:38
Ben64you're doing it wrong23:39
AndChat728121The plus.23:39
AndChat728121Right. Helpful.23:39
Ben64start up the live system, open gparted and do it there23:39
AndChat728121Maybe it's because I enabled encryption and LVM. I'll try without, I guess.23:40
usr13AndChat728121: Yea, as Ben64 points out, the extended partition contains the logical ones.  If you designated hda4 as extended, you should be able to create sda5 sda6 and sda723:41
tgm4883Does the RX480 work on 16.04 at all or do I need to upgrade to 16.10? I thought I read that it works on 16.04 now?23:43
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AndChat728121Here's what I did. Select sda4. Click minus. Select free space. Click plus. Select logical. Select beginning of this space. Use as Ext4. Mount point none, because it will be the sub-partitions that have mount points, no?23:43
Ben64AndChat728121: no23:43
usr13(I said hda4 but I meant sda4)23:43
TortillionI also have another question if you don't mind me asking: Does Lubuntu have less functionality than Ubuntu, and will Ubuntu run slower than Lubuntu on my Pentium M computer?23:43
Guest50913newbee...lol23:44
Ben64Tortillion: no and yes23:44
usr13AndChat728121: You need to delete sda4, re-create it as an extended partition, and then you can create sda5 sda6 and sda7 for / and /home and swap23:44
TortillionSo everything I can do in Ubuntu I can do in Lubuntu? So theres no point in using Ubuntu right.23:45
rocket__whats lubuntu?23:45
nacc!lubuntu | rocket__23:45
ubotturocket__: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.23:45
AndChat728121That's what I thought I did. Logical is extended, no? There is no "extended".23:45
OerHeksJan 28, 2015 - The vast majority of Pentium M and Celeron M CPUs are suitable for fakepae or forcepae and can work with PAE kernels. But some of these ...23:45
TortillionI can forcepae and it worked23:46
Ben64AndChat728121: sda4 is the extended one23:46
naccTortillion: lubuntu is ubuntu -- you're just using a different DE23:46
AndChat728121I was told to delete sda4. It was NTFS (D:/).23:46
hippybearman OerHeks I have seen your name in here since I first started using ubuntu23:46
TortillionOh right23:46
TortillionThanks23:46
usr13AndChat728121: Logical partitions are the ones inside of the Extended partition.  You have primary, extended and logical.23:47
Ben64AndChat728121: yep, then you make it into an extended partition23:47
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usr13AndChat728121: Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/PartitioningBasics23:47
AndChat728121There is no "extended". So logical, right? Which is what I did.23:47
Ben64AndChat728121: if you have sda5, then sda4 is the extended partition23:47
usr13AndChat728121: You need to decide how many linux partitions you want.  Minimum is 2 for / and swap, sda5 and sda623:48
usr13AndChat728121: One large one and one small one, (the size of RAM).23:49
usr13AndChat728121: sda4 - extemded    sda5 - logical    sda6 - logical23:49
AndChat728121I'll take a look but it's literally size, type, location, use as, mount point. Would take seconds to list the correct options and will take me presumably longer to figure it out. I've been fighting computer /all day/. Excuse the crankiness.23:49
AndChat728121I can't add anything after sda4.23:50
Ben64AndChat728121: presumably because you took up all the space with sda523:50
usr13AndChat728121: Sometimes it takes a while for the concept to sink in.23:50
Free99_nacc, I got the system to come back from death23:51
usr13AndChat728121: How much free space do you have?  (Size of sda4)...23:51
Bashing-omTortillion: Have you seen : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE/PentiumM ?23:51
usr13AndChat728121: How much RAM do you have?23:51
AndChat728121Oh. I misunderstood then. I figured I'd create an extended partition that uses all the space and then be able to split that into three.23:51
AndChat728121I am not good with partition.23:52
naccFree99_: pastebin dmesg?23:52
usr13AndChat728121: Correct.23:52
naccFree99_: and how? :)23:52
OerHeksjust leave the space blanc, let ubuntu do the partitioning23:52
usr13AndChat728121: How much free space do you have?23:52
AndChat728121It complains about that.23:52
AndChat728121493882 MB23:52
Free99_so I had to re-enable sysrq, it is apparently disabled beyond increasing log levels (see /etc/sysctl.d/10-magic-sysrq.conf) and then I kept leaning on alt-sysrq-f and it took a few minutes but the system reappeared23:52
usr13AndChat728121: And how much RAM?23:53
AndChat728121I was thinking 8 GB swap and splitting the rest between home and the install?23:53
naccFree99_: yes, magic sysrq is disabled (you can also change it with a kernel command parameter, iirc)?23:53
AndChat7281214 but will upgrade to 8 or 16 soon.23:53
usr13AndChat728121: So make sda5 8G and designate as swap.  Make sda6 to occupy the rest of the free space you have.23:54
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usr13AndChat728121: or make sda5 16G and designate as swap.  Make sda6 to occupy the rest of the free space23:55
tgm4883Using 16.04.1, trying to upgrade from a GTX 760 (prop drivers) to an RX 480 (amdgpu driver) but upon rebooting amdgpu isn't getting loaded and I'm stuck at 1024x76823:55
veterHello, how to make that my second HDD in laptop mount with more simple name? http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1477526097.png23:56
Ben64!fstab | veter23:56
ubottuveter: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200709/page07.html and !Partitions23:56
usr13veter: Create a fstab entry for it.23:56
AndChat728121Is there any advantage to having a partition for /home and another for /?23:57
usr13AndChat728121: Yes.  If you re-install and you have separate /home partition, it can be left as is during install.23:57
AndChat728121Thanks for your patience. Mine ran out about eight hours ago.23:57
Free99_nacc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386071/23:57
Bashing-omtgm4883: You did remove the old nVidia driver ?23:57
AndChat728121Okay, cool23:57
Free99_and to change sysrq, just sysctl -w kernel.sysrq=123:58
tgm4883Bashing-om: yep, old nvidia is removed and purged23:58
usr13AndChat728121: If you have separate /home partition, make it the biggest.  Like 100G for / and 8G for swap and the rest for /home23:58
Free99_this is territory I'm unfamiliar with, rsize and such23:58
tgm4883Bashing-om: I can modprobe the amdgpu driver, but restarting lightdm doesn't show any better resolution in the display manager23:59

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