[00:00] <Khar00f> honestly i don't understand why it's still not working
[00:01] <Khar00f> do i have to create a password for smb users?
[00:01] <kicksled> Khar00f: what happens when you open the share and enter a username and password thats added to the group?
[00:02] <Khar00f> i saw some tutorials that said someting like smbpwd uid
[00:02] <Khar00f> it rejects my username
[00:02] <Khar00f> it just says invalid credentials
[00:03] <kicksled> how does the global section in your smb.conf look?
[00:04] <kicksled> and yeah, "sudo smbpasswd -a <username>" lets you make a password for the user
[00:05] <Khar00f> so the users that are listed don't have any passwords right now is that why it's not working?
[00:05] <Khar00f> my smb.conf is default
[00:05] <Khar00f> din't hcange anything on it
[00:05] <Khar00f> the only thing i added are the share sections at the end
[00:06] <kicksled> Khar00f: ok. add password for the user with the command above, that should solve it
[00:06] <Khar00f> i'll try it right away
[00:07] <ksdfksd> Question
[00:07] <ksdfksd> I have a laptop
[00:07] <ksdfksd> I want to isolate my aps from eachotehr
[00:07] <ksdfksd> how would I go about this.
[00:07] <ksdfksd> I want something like Qubes but not Qubes
[00:09] <Khar00f> it worked
[00:09] <Bray90820> Can anyone help me with a wifi issue my tablet freezes every time I use a browser and this is the error I am getting
[00:09] <Bray90820> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/IMAG0104.jpg
[00:09] <Khar00f> i dont' understand why on this page, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html there's no mention of the password command
[00:09] <Khar00f> i've been trying this for 2 days
[00:10] <kk4ewt> samba can run its own password database
[00:10] <kicksled> Khar00f: glad you got it working
[00:11] <Khar00f> but that's a pain, if you want your users to be able to use the shares, they have to remember their login info and their smb pwd, there should be a way to simply authenticate with system logons
[00:11] <Khar00f> but anyways, at least it works, it's not a productive environment so it'll do for now
[00:11] <Khar00f> kicksled: thank you very much my friend
[00:12] <Khar00f> next server, is webserver :)
[00:12] <Khar00f> migrating all my servers from nas4free is longer than i thought
[00:13] <kicksled> ksdfksd: check out subuser.org
[00:13] <kicksled> Khar00f: I can recommend the tutorials digitalocean has on setting up different server apps etc, well written stuff
[00:14] <ksdfksd> kicksled: neat
[00:14] <Khar00f> kk4ewt: you said "can run" does that mean there's a way to make it not to and instead use local userbase and passwords?
[00:14] <kicksled> ksdfksd: something like that you're looking for?
[00:15] <ksdfksd> kicksled: thats exactly it.
[00:16] <ksdfksd> I wanted to lock down applications
[00:16] <kicksled> Khar00f: I belive the line "unix password sync = yes" in the global section of your smb.conf will solve the problem with 2 passwords
[00:16] <ksdfksd> kicksled: you know if I can lockdown it further?
[00:17] <kicksled> ksdfksd: looks neat. haven't tried it out myself, but its based on docker as far as I know and docker is great
[00:21] <kicksled> ksdfksd: they have a channel here on freenode, subuser
[00:21] <ksdfksd> its dead
[00:22] <kicksled> ksdfksd: ah, noticed that. since its based on docker maybe you'll have better luck finding articles on hardening docker, and can use that to also harden subuser
[00:23] <kicksled> Khar00f: let me know if that unix password sync line makes things easier for you regarding passwords
[00:23] <ksdfksd> kicksled: I might try out Qubes
[00:23] <ksdfksd> Part of the reasoning is to isolate personal from internet data
[00:24] <ksdfksd> so Freenode shouldn't be mixed with Facebook
[00:24] <kicksled> Khar00f: but you still need to add a smbpasswd for new users the first time. use same password as unix password, and after that it will update when user updates the unix password
[00:25] <kicksled> ksdfksd: haven't tried Qubes, but yeah, it looks like it would do what you want.
[00:26] <ksdfksd> I'm split
[00:26] <ksdfksd> Qubes or subuser.
[00:27] <kicksled> ksdfksd: fire up a vm with Qubes and test it out, could do the same with subuser, test it out in a vm first and see what you like best
[00:28] <ksdfksd> I know my laptop is fully supported
[00:28] <kicksled> ksdfksd: you could also check out https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/docker-containers-on-the-desktop/ a good read on gui apps with docker
[00:29] <retrojeff> root@ubuntu[~]# telnet 185.61.138.176
[00:29] <Castor_T> I am trying to run this command and it is asking for installation CD. doesnt it get downloaded from internet? sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall
[00:30] <kicksled> ksdfksd: and this for how to write the docker files etc http://fabiorehm.com/blog/2014/09/11/running-gui-apps-with-docker/
[00:31] <Castor_T> fixed it by commenting cdrom line in source.list
[00:31] <kicksled> Castor_T: is main repository activated in software & updates?
[00:32] <Castor_T> kicksled, I commented it now
[00:32] <Castor_T> looks like the main repository will get its data from cdrom
[00:32] <Scriptonaut> Hey all, I'm on ubuntu 16.10, and I can't find the fonts directory
[00:32] <Scriptonaut> there is no ~/.fonts, no /usr/local/share/fonts
[00:35] <master_j> isn't it usr/share/fonts ?
[00:35] <Scriptonaut> oh, yes :)
[00:35] <Scriptonaut> thanks
[00:35] <master_j> np :)
[00:35] <kicksled> yeah
[00:37] <sphrak> Hi, Im thinking about setting up a VM in VBox and then deploy it to an actual physical machine (server). But while this seems easy to do via various conversion methods and then write an image to a clean disk.. what are some caveats etc? anyone have experience with this?
[00:38] <arooni> it appears using sftp i cannot connect two instances to the same destination?  in this case id like to connect to the /Users/myusername directory as well as /Volumes/ExternalHardDrive (connecting to a mac mini)... ideas?  also is sftp == sshfs ?
[00:40] <SchrodingersScat> arooni: yes, as far as I know sshfs uses basically the same function as sftp, what error is it giving you?  I have to admit I haven't tried connecting two places at once.
[00:40] <lordcirth_> sphrak, that can work, but are you sure you need to?  Why not install it and then configure?
[00:40] <SchrodingersScat> on the same destination I mean, normally I mount my user directory or /
[00:41] <arooni> SchrodingersScat: doesnt give me an error message; but id like an easy way to navigate to say my home folder on my mac or the attached external hard drive
[00:41] <arooni> SchrodingersScat: when i double click the saved bookmark; it just mounts that location ; just moves from say my home dir to hard drive or vice versa
[00:41] <lordcirth_> arooni, do you want to mount the same remote in 2 places, or mount 2 remotes at the same place?
[00:43] <arooni> lordcirth_: well both remoters are the same host (mac mini) ;  they are just different destinations on the mini.  one home directory the other an external hard drive
[00:43] <arooni> both remotes
[00:43] <arooni> same remote in 2 places i suppose
[00:43] <sphrak> lordcirth_: well its mostly because I want to avoid downtime, and also I have some stuff I need to migrate onto it. Im also thinking I might avoid going to the site and deploy it myself, this way I can just write an ssd with the image and mail it to the person that hosts it and make him replace the current system disk :-)
[00:43] <lordcirth_> sphrak, ah, long distance, I see.
[00:44] <lordcirth_> arooni, if you want the same remote in 2 places, symlink or bind mount, dont mount twice
[00:44] <lordcirth_> I mean, it should work, but it's messy
[00:44] <kicksled> sphrak: just make sure to test it a couple of times on a local machine before sending off and having downtime ;)
[00:45] <sphrak> lordcirth_: yes, what im worried about is drivers etc.. on the physical system.. will it be detected automatically once it boots up?
[00:45] <sphrak> kicksled: yes I will do plenty of testing before :)
[00:45] <lordcirth_> sphrak, if you don't have to install any drivers to make it work, then it will just work
[00:46] <sphrak> lordcirth_: thats amazing really. well I dont, its playtime then :D
[00:46] <lordcirth_> Linux kernel autodetects everything every boot, normally
[00:46] <sphrak> sounds rock solid by design, love that :D
[00:47] <kicksled> yeah, it should be somewhat straight forward migrating from a VM, just follow one of the write ups that you feel are detailed enough, and test a few times locally so you're confident you're getting it all right - and you should be ok :)
[00:47] <floam412> Hey can someone help me with a question about changing the password for root? If I use the top answer from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/294946/how-to-change-root-password-in-ubuntu ... does that change sudo and not my username password?
[00:48] <sphrak> kicksled: awesome, yes im starting now :D gonna be great to go from 12.04 to 16.04.
[00:48] <kicksled> 16.04 is great
[00:49] <kicksled> run a couple of 16.04 server instances myself, solid asf
[00:49] <arooni> what do you mean by bind mount
[00:49] <sphrak> kicksled: yes it is, the mysql installation bug appears to be solved aswell
[00:50] <kicksled> sphrak: yeah, I had no problems with mysql installation on 16.04
[00:50] <kicksled> straight forward
[00:52] <sphrak> kicksled: on some testing machines prior to 16.04.1 the installation failed on me but it works great now. This gonn be a good night, coffee and sysinstall
[00:52] <kicksled> floam412: root acount is locked on ubuntu desktop, just use sudo -i for a root shell.
[00:52] <kicksled> sphrak: what are the server for? :)
[00:53] <kicksled> sphrak: yeah, sysinstall on servers are good fun, at leat I think so :p
[00:55] <Khar00f> kicksled: unfortunately it didn't work, i tried changing a user pwd and the smbpass didn't change
[00:56] <Khar00f> even after restarting the server
[00:56] <terminalfactor> exit
[00:56] <Khar00f> maybe i'm using it wrong, but anyways not a big deal in my setup, just more convenient
[00:57] <kicksled> Khar00f: hmm. yeah, I haven't used it that way much myself, just tried it in testing. I like having it seperate, and also I'm the only user that needs access to the server, so other users only have the smbpasswd they need to remember :p
[00:58] <twoddle> Has anyone come across sound coming out laptop speakers, even when headphones are connected?
[00:58] <ptx0> twoddle: that's typically related to alsa jack sensing
[00:58] <ptx0> maybe your alsamixer will have switches to enable/disable speakers
[00:58] <Castor_Troy> how to update path in ubuntu. I need to add a folder
[00:59] <twoddle> yeah, I can see autoswitch working in alsamixer
[00:59] <twoddle> but sound still comes out lol
[00:59] <Khar00f> yeah, same here, like i said, it's not biggie on my setup, really only one user with write access
[00:59] <kk4ewt> Castor_Troy,  the same way you do in any version of linux
[00:59] <twoddle> its crazy. Ive gotten around it by attaching a DAC
[00:59] <Khar00f> thanks a lot for your help
[00:59] <Castor_Troy> kk4ewt, thats the problem. i dont know how to do it in linux
[01:00] <kicksled> twoddle: use lubuntu and pavucontrol myself, and have different ports for speakers and headset. if it don't change automatically I have to change it manually.
[01:00] <kk4ewt> Castor_Troy,  and google says
[01:00] <kicksled> Khar00f: no problem
[01:00] <Castor_Troy> kk4ewt, the answers are confusing.
[01:00] <Castor_Troy> i will try again anyway
[01:01] <kk4ewt> PATH=$PATH:newPath1:newPAth2
[01:01] <kk4ewt> export PATH
[01:02] <Castor_Troy> i am trying to edit the .bashrc file, will this work ?
[01:02] <twoddle> Ive tried mutiple linux distros, and they all do it. This lalptop has 4 speakers (2 up front and 2 on rear) as its a 2 in 1. The sound is odd though, like it's just the left channel, thats coming out of both speakers
[01:03] <kicksled> Castor_Troy: is this what you're trying to do? http://askubuntu.com/questions/60218/how-to-add-a-directory-to-my-path
[01:04] <Castor_Troy> yes, thanks kicksled
[01:04] <sphrak> kicksled: the server is for owncloud which I use alot and also some file storage. Also host some websites aswell for fun
[01:05] <kicksled> Castor_Troy: no problem
[01:05] <twoddle> second question, is with screen rotation, as it isnt being detected. I'm using gnome; is there a gui that's tablet mode friendlier than gnome?
[01:06] <kicksled> sphrak: ah, nice. have owncloud set up myself on a server. along with openvpn, my own wiki, rss feed etc. fun to play around with :)
[01:07] <kicksled> twoddle: I guess unity perhaps? but haven't tried it myself
[01:07] <sphrak> kicksled: yes I have that aswell, mediawiki, and pi-hole setup for adblocking, also openvpn, both connected and as server. Use rss feeds via nextclouds news app, Have that aswell for testing
[01:08] <floam412> kicksled... so I tried that, and the password I usually use for sudo for some reason isn't working... would the password for su be the same as sudo or my regular username password by chance?
[01:10] <kicksled> floam412: you can't su, but you can sudo -i for a root shell. if you for some reason want access to root, use sudo passwd to set a root passord. then you can su with that password in to root. but not recommended, I would just use sudo -i if I need a root shell and keep root account locked
[01:11] <kicksled> sphrak: cool. tried mediawiki myself, but was to comprehensive for what I needed. just needed something simple for my linux wiki stuff. use tiny tiny rss as rss feed, works great. easy set up and I like the UI
[01:11] <sphrak> kicksled: hmm what do you use for wiki then?
[01:12] <sphrak> I feel its quite extensive for my own purpose too.. might migrate once at it right hehe
[01:12] <john52> there is no way we can crack excel 2013 password ?
[01:12] <kicksled> sphrak: use get-simple, more a cms than a wiki, but I just call it my wiki :p
[01:13] <floam412> kicksled; so changing my root password to something random and long won't make my computer any more secure when it comes to preventing malware from getting at my computer?
[01:13] <kicksled> floam412: all passwords should be long and random
[01:13] <lordcirth_> floam412, having login disabled is always more secure than even a good password, of course.
[01:13] <floam412> lol I know... but in this case, I feel that my current sudo password isn't long and random enough
[01:14] <lordcirth_> floam412, then fix that
[01:14] <lordcirth_> As a fun exercise, calculate how much entropy it has.
[01:15] <kicksled> floam412: change your users password - best solution
[01:15] <floam412> so how would I go about fixing that exactly?  I'm confused because different stuff I'm reading says to do different things
[01:15] <lordcirth_> floam412, fixing what?
[01:15] <kicksled> sphrak: pi-hole looks interesting, need to check that out
[01:15] <lordcirth_> kicksled, yeah I'm considering setting one up
[01:15] <floam412> like comparing to the first article I sent to this one... http://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Root-Password-in-Linux
[01:15] <kicksled> floam412: keep root disabled and change the password for your user to something strong
[01:16] <lordcirth_> floam412, su uses root's password, which should be disabled
[01:16] <lordcirth_> sudo uses your user's password, so change that
[01:16] <floam412> ohhhh
[01:17] <arooni> can anyone help me set up NFS to connect from ubuntu ==> mac via NFS?
[01:17] <floam412> thanks guys
[01:17] <kicksled> no problem floam412
[01:17] <lordcirth_> arooni, ubuntu client?
[01:17] <john52> Hi there
[01:18] <john52> i am using hexchat to connect please help how can i join more group ?
[01:18] <arooni> lordcirth_: yes ubuntu is the client; connecting to mac os x;
[01:19] <SchrodingersScat> john52: /join #channel
[01:19] <john52> but it ask for registered
[01:19] <john52> ?
[01:19] <lordcirth_> !register | john52
[01:19] <lordcirth_> arooni, well, assuming the server is working correctly, you should be able to mount it with 'mount -t nfs hostname:/mount /mountpoint' or similar
[01:20] <kicksled> arooni: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#NFS_Client
[01:20] <jvljavkjivnmkscm> .
[01:20] <john52> ok but how can i check if i m registered or not?
[01:20] <kicksled> john52: join #freenode, they can help you with nickserv
[01:20] <arooni> plenty of info on how to set up nfs server on ubuntu and mac client; not so much on the reverse
[01:21] <john52> I m under freenode
[01:21] <lordcirth_> arooni, well, we can only help you with the Ubuntu side here.
[01:21] <lordcirth_> john52, you are on the server Freenode, channel #ubuntu.  There is a channel, #freenode, for Freenode help
[01:21] <kk4ewt> john53 /ns  help register
[01:21] <arooni> i guess first thing is to make sure mac server is set up
[01:21] <arooni> http://www.barryodonovan.com/2012/12/12/apple-os-x-as-an-nfs-server-with-linux-clients should help me
[01:21] <john52> ohhhh O.O
[01:22] <john52> no one rply back
[01:31] <arooni> lordcirth_: i tried following instructions but im seeing;   mount.nfs: timeout set for Tue Oct 25 20:32:53 2016 ..
[01:32] <lordcirth_> arooni, do the clocks match?
[01:32] <lordcirth_> arooni, also, you can try -t nfsv3
[01:36] <arooni> lordcirth_: clocks appear to match to me
[01:37] <arooni> lordcirth_: mount: unknown filesystem type 'nfsv3'  ;; i assume it was mount -t nfsv3
[01:37] <BurtReynolds> Are there any sweet command line games like hacknet for linux for free?
[01:38] <arooni> lordcirth_: so if i run showmount -e on the mac side i dont seeany output
[01:38] <lordcirth_> BurtReynolds, there are many roguelikes that are free.  DoomRL is fun.
[01:39] <BurtReynolds> I do like the roguelike games but I'd like to try something that's a "hacking" simulator
[01:39] <BurtReynolds> I'll try out doomRL as I've never heard of it :D
[01:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Ubuntu has nethack
[01:40] <lordcirth_> arooni, try -t nfs again, but add -onfsvers=3 to the end
[01:41] <lordcirth_> nethack has nothing to do with either meaning of 'hacking' however
[01:41] <PenumbralFromage> <3 nethack..
[01:41] <PenumbralFromage> I've only ascended once, though … Hard game.
[01:43] <BurtReynolds> nethack is crazy
[01:43] <anonymous-laptop> hello!
[01:43] <lordcirth_> hi
[01:43] <anonymous-laptop> hey guys, i ve wondering about something may result extrange
[01:44] <anonymous-laptop> let see if someone of you have the key
[01:45] <Kramerboy> hello, I have a question about nautilus. I right clicked on a folder containing over 100 gb of files. But I accidentally closed the properties window before it finished calculating the size. Does this affect the files in the folder?
[01:45] <PenumbralFromage> No
[01:46] <anonymous-laptop> I have a laptop, sith 80Gb HDD, it cannot boot from usb. I want to use tails and DVD is slower than USB, of course, so i was thinking about "burn" the ISO file into a partition and run it as it was an USB stick.
[01:46] <arooni> lordcirth_: output >> https://gist.github.com/arooni/f4fb00c8b31ee2f9788f3ad3da67c94b
[01:46] <anonymous-laptop> could be that possible?
[01:46] <lordcirth_> anonymous-laptop, that is possible, yes.
[01:47] <PenumbralFromage> I've been trying the same thing.. I have an old Mac - my bootloader sees the partition, but when I boot from it I get issues.
[01:47] <anonymous-laptop> so much difficult?
[01:47] <Kramerboy> also, that folder is located on a USB drive and I am using Nautilus from gnome3-team repo
[01:47] <lordcirth_> anonymous-laptop, 2 ways you can do that: 1) you dd the iso over the drive like making a USB.  2) you make a partition, put the ISO file in it, and configure Grub to boot to it.
[01:48] <anonymous-laptop> fuck yeah
[01:48] <anonymous-laptop> thanks you lordcirth_
[01:48] <PenumbralFromage> @Kramer - You're fine. Your files are fine.
[01:49] <lordcirth_> anonymous-laptop, the file method, while harder, would allow you to save things from Tails if you wanted to.
[01:49] <anonymous-laptop> any recommendation about the filesystem to use? FAT32 could be work fine?
[01:49] <Kramerboy> @Penumbral: ok then. Thanks for the answer
[01:49] <lordcirth_> anonymous-laptop, ext4
[01:49] <lordcirth_> fat *should* work, but you may as well
[01:50] <lordcirth_> arooni, well did you try -o nolock like it suggested (assuming you're only mounting in one place) or start the daemon?
[01:50] <PenumbralFromage> Anyone have a recommendation on how to install on an old mac that refuses to install from USB, and the HD Partition thing doesn't work - oh, and the DVD drive is shot .. sigh ..
[01:50] <arooni> lordcirth_: the daemon is running on mac os x; but when i run sudo showmount -e ; nothing appears
[01:51] <lordcirth_> PenumbralFromage, pull the drive, install, put it back?
[01:53] <PenumbralFromage> Hmm.. Not sure I follow exactly.
[01:53] <anonymous-laptop> I will try it and then come back in a few days to tell you the results
[01:53] <anonymous-laptop> thanks a lot!
[01:54] <PenumbralFromage> God luck, anon!
[01:54] <PenumbralFromage> I don't have another mac to boot the drive in / install from.
[01:54] <PenumbralFromage> I do have a PC - but doesn't the mac install need some special treatment on install?
[01:55] <lordcirth_> PenumbralFromage, I've no idea.  I've done it for PCs, though.
[01:55] <lordcirth_> Normally Linux doesn't care whether you move it around, but it's possible Macs have something special.
[01:55] <PenumbralFromage> Yeah, same .. Mac and the borked EFI boot makes life fun.
[01:56] <PenumbralFromage> I have a bootloader now that can see and boot the install from USB/external drive - but it then goes to "No bootable device - please insert blah blah"
[01:57] <PenumbralFromage> It's an old mac.. 10y.. 2006 bodel.
[01:57] <PenumbralFromage> model
[01:57] <PenumbralFromage> I think I'll just get a new DVD drive.. $25 on Amazon … blah …
[01:57] <lordcirth_> I have managed to avoid dealing with Macs much, so I've no idea.
[01:58] <PenumbralFromage> Good machines, I just need to get off OS X, support is gone for this model - I need to get Linux going.
[02:00] <PenumbralFromage> I saw there was a special iso for mac on the 13.40 tree.. Hoping that will work,
[02:00] <arooni> lordcirth_: i ran ; https://gist.github.com/1c13c356607fb10592d806edc7244d48 ;; i got farther this time
[02:03] <lordcirth_> PenumbralFromage, 13.40 what?
[02:05] <PenumbralFromage> Sorry, 13.04 - Raring Ringtail
[02:05] <promet> My 16.04 dns just up and crapped out on me today, anyone else had problems?
[02:05] <PenumbralFromage>  ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso                          24-Apr-2013 18:26  783M  Desktop image for 64-bit Mac (AMD64) computers (standard download)
[02:06] <PenumbralFromage> I haven't seen another build with that moniker - so I wondered if I needed to be worried about newer releases + Mac.
[02:06] <PenumbralFromage> At least old ones :/
[02:07] <PenumbralFromage> (Pasted from old-releases.ubuntu.com)
[02:08] <anonymous-laptop> hi again lordcirth_
[02:08] <anonymous-laptop> doing that just now, primary, logical, extended...?
[02:09] <lordcirth_> anonymous-laptop, if you only need 1 or 2 partitions, they should be primary
[02:10] <anonymous-laptop> ;)
[02:14] <franck2> I deleted repositories from /etc/apt/sources.list.  Is there a way to remove packages that were included in those repositories ?
[02:21] <lordcirth_> franck2, ppa-purge
[02:34] <ShayBox> anyone know if theres another way to overclock a nvidia gpu w/o coolbits? that doesn't work
[02:36] <Erpo> I'm looking for NVR software that can record from ONVIF compliant IP cameras and offers a web interface for viewing live feeds, archived footage, and administration. Any suggestions?
[02:37] <ShayBox> custom firmware?
[02:38] <ShayBox> thats what i did for my foscam camera
[02:39] <anonymous-laptop> hi again
[02:39] <Erpo> How does replacing the firmware on the camera help? Wouldn't I still need a server to archive the video?
[02:39] <anonymous-laptop> that could work for wifislax?
[02:39] <anonymous-laptop> menuentry "WifiSlax4.12" {
[02:39] <anonymous-laptop> set isofile="/media/anonymous/a2249a77-88d2-4e11-ad35-2d6a3f487110/wifislax-4-12-final.iso"
[02:39] <anonymous-laptop> loopback loop (hd0,4)$isofile
[02:39] <anonymous-laptop> linux (loop)/boot/vmlinuz boot=casper
[02:39] <anonymous-laptop> iso-sacn/filename=${isofile} quiet splash
[02:39] <lordcirth_> anonymous-laptop, please do not paste so many lines to channel
[02:41] <anonymous-laptop> okay, so can I private paste this?
[02:41] <anonymous-laptop> just 10 lines
[02:41] <anonymous-laptop> to see if the code is good
[02:41] <lordcirth_> !paste | anonymous-laptop
[02:43] <zylum_> iso-sacn should be iso-scan
[02:43] <anonymous-laptop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23381833/
[02:44] <anonymous-laptop> and what about the path?
[02:44] <anonymous-laptop> and the vmlinuz file, has no extension
[02:44] <anonymous-laptop> there is also vmlinuz2 file in the iso
[02:44] <zylum_> are they both in casper?
[02:44] <lordcirth_> anonymous-laptop, that path looks like a mount?
[02:45] <anonymous-laptop> yes, i used gparted, make this partition, and this is the path
[02:45] <zylum_> use the vmlinuz in the /casper folder
[02:45] <anonymous-laptop> maybe im doing something wrong
[02:45] <zylum_> it could be the grub device
[02:46] <zylum_> go to grub command line and type 'ls' - could be that (hd0,4) isn't the correct device,partition
[02:47] <anonymous-laptop> i didn't test it yet
[02:47] <anonymous-laptop> just send the code to see if it's okay
[02:47] <anonymous-laptop> inside iso there is no casper folder
[02:47] <anonymous-laptop> just boot folder
[02:48] <zylum_> ok, then 'boot=casper' will produce an error if there is no /casper folder
[02:48] <anonymous-laptop> so boot=boot?
[02:49] <zylum_> yeah boot should equal the folder in which initrd and vmlinuz resides
[02:50] <anonymous-laptop> so, lets test it hehe
[02:50] <anonymous-laptop> thanks guys
[02:50] <zylum_> np
[03:01] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[03:01] <CountryfiedLinux> Is there a good IRC app for Ubuntu with HiDPI?
[03:04] <migueld> what is HiDPI?
[03:04] <kicksled> high dpi screen I think CountryfiedLinux means?
[03:05] <migueld> oh interesting
[03:05] <kicksled> personally I use irssi with the terminal font a bit higher than normal :p CountryfiedLinux
[03:05] <migueld> does any irc app support that?
[03:05] <mkquist> migueld: maybe... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI
[03:10] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[03:10] <CountryfiedLinux> Any good IRC apps for 4K display?
[03:10] <Ben64> hexchat
[03:11] <CountryfiedLinux> ok thanks
[03:30] <FatSpitfire> mornin guys :)
[03:30] <kicksled> mornin
[03:36] <FatSpitfire> anyone with questions for the mornin ?
[03:37] <fajarlaksono> anyone can help me ?
[03:38] <fajarlaksono> i have problem with codeblock, many gui doesn't work well
[03:40] <FatSpitfire> fajarlaksono , what is codeblock ?
[03:40] <fajarlaksono> IDE for c++
[03:43] <FatSpitfire> fajarlaksono , you got me lost on that one bro :( sorry I can`t help you
[03:46] <StumpDumb> Is there a way to install Lubuntu on a second hard drive using a hard drive with Ubuntu on it?
[03:46] <FatSpitfire> yep
[03:47] <StumpDumb> UNetbootin?
[03:47] <FatSpitfire> StumpDumb , you have to copy your ubuntu into the second one - than install lubuntu-desktop on top
[03:48] <StumpDumb> second hard drive is blank
[03:48] <FatSpitfire> StumpDumb ,no - you`ll need to do some google searchin for that - you really just copy all the files and write some code in terminal ( two or tree commands) that`s all
[03:48] <StumpDumb> I want a clean/pure Lubuntu install
[03:49] <StumpDumb> not just the Desktop
[03:49] <FatSpitfire> StumpDumb , it`s the same thing - I use Ubuntu server live cd for clean install - I trow everything else over it
[03:50] <mabus> hey so i want to install a custom compiled openssl that supports sslv2 as i need to check other servers for their sslv2 support - how can i remove the current openssl and install a new one without clobbering every dang thing that depends on openssl such as ubuntu-server*
[03:50] <mabus> dont really need support on the openssl side just how i can replace a package without killing the dependencies
[03:51] <mabus> or knowing what i need to do to rebuild necessary packages against custom compiled dependancies
[03:51] <StumpDumb> interesting
[03:55] <Marre> .
[03:55] <Marre> y
[03:56] <Marre> hpoi
[03:56] <ibenz> npo we?
[03:57] <linocisco> hi all,
[03:57] <ibenz> npo su
[03:57] <linocisco> very slow shutting down or rebooting my ubuntu 16.04.1 x64
[03:57] <Marre> heh ojo kasar
[03:59] <Rumix> miq
[04:04] <Auctus> So i open up two file manager windows, one to a remote sftp/ssh server, so i can send a couple of html files over, and it transfers at like 900 bytes a second, no other programs do this, is there a reason for that?
[04:04] <mabus> i think i might actually have misspoke... i think ubuntu's openssl supports sslv2. i assumed it didnt since the penetration distro kali does not and should
[04:08] <saifei> ？？？
[04:09] <rusticblend> Hi, i have a question. Is there a way to run and get external files in a /etc/service start up process? if I do any form for remote access the /etc/service script keeps repeating it self. Maybe it's my lack of knowledge getting in the way. It's ubuntu 14.04 server
[04:09] <saifei> haha
[04:10] <admin__> enen
[04:11] <boyd> hey
[04:13] <Sircle> I plugged nvs quadro 420 and 450 http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_420_us.html and http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_450_us.html and I saw only 2 out of 4 LCDs were shown as connected in xrandr -q. Other 2 as disconneced. I plugged that on an other machine having windows, I got all 4 working. A) any clues why? B) whats the minimum most costly card with 3-4 display at a time (for
[04:13] <Sircle> multiseat) is 100% supported by ubuntu?
[04:24] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all. I am unable to make a valid USB livecd. Currently working on Debian, dd makes the drive write-protected. What can I do?
[04:25] <econdudeawesome> I am able to clear off old attempts using gparted
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> !usb | econdudeawesome
[04:29] <StumpDumb> Bye bi
[04:31] <anzhi> who
[04:34] <ubmt> HOW ARE U TODAY?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> ubmt: you joined the ubuntu support channel
[04:36] <ubmt> and i say hello to anzhi but he left
[04:39] <Sircle> I plugged nvs quadro 420 and 450 http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_420_us.html and http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_450_us.html and I saw only 2 out of 4 LCDs were shown as connected in xrandr -q. Other 2 as disconneced. I plugged that on an other machine having windows, I got all 4 working. A) any clues why? B) whats the minimum most costly card with 3-4 display at a time (for
[04:39] <Sircle> multiseat) is 100% supported by ubuntu?
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: you got the right drivers active?
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: ubuntu version?
[04:40] <rajmohan> i need to update openssl. can guide me please?
[04:41] <Sircle> lotuspsychje:  yes. the driver manager auto suggested the correct one. I have 16LTS latest
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: your up to date also to 16.04.1?
[04:41] <Sircle> lotuspsychje:  yes
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: did you test other drivers? other ubuntu versions?
[04:42] <Sircle> lotuspsychje:  no
[04:42] <Sircle> lotuspsychje:  which cards are fully supported out of box?
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> rajmohan: you want the heartbleed bug?
[04:43] <Sircle> lotuspsychje:  I would use them and avoiad time wastage
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: out of the box is very relative mate, lets say the best driver is the one working best on your card
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: did you check your additional drivers section for other drivers?
[04:44] <Sircle> lotuspsychje:  where is the additional driver secion?
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: its the hardware icon
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: or sources/additional drivers tab
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> !heartbleed | rajmohan
[04:45] <Sircle> lotuspsychje:  I have kubuntu. No such link/button
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: even on kubuntu, additional drivers should exist
[04:47] <Sircle> lotuspsychje: cant find. But isnt there any "suppprted'/fully supported" cards?
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: there is a hardware list certified for ubuntu, yes
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: but in most cases, testing out drivers/ubuntu versions can sort most of the graphics cards
[04:48] <Sircle> hm
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: you can check by terminal also with ubuntu-drivers
[04:49] <Sircle> lotuspsychje:  i saw 340.96 on driver list and 340.98 on quadro website. I think I should download the later?
[04:50] <Sircle> lotuspsychje: usage: ubuntu-drivers [-h] [--package-list PATH] <command>
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: i would recommend testing things out like: testing latest ubuntu graphics drivers ppa, or a higher kernel, or switching existing drivers, or testing another ubuntu version
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: try ubuntu-drivers --list
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: perhaps also compare kubuntu with unity if it influences?
[04:52] <Sircle> unity?
[04:52] <Sircle> whats that
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> !unity | Sircle
[04:55] <NoCode> is there a way to have a small buffer space in Konversation between the nickname, and conversation? It looks neater.
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> NoCode: the #konversation channel might know?
[04:59] <ubmt> i'm dying which channel could help?
[05:02] <fishcooker> how to upgrade from "Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS" to the latest "14.04.X"?
[05:03] <Bashing-om> fishcooker: Try as ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' .
[05:05] <FatSpitfire> back :D
[05:06] <fishcooker> Thanks Bashing-om, i'll try dry run first
[05:06] <Bashing-om> fishcooker: K; when in doubt ' simulate ' :)
[05:09] <tubuliferous> So...
[05:09] <tubuliferous> I installed a bunch of packages by sudo apt-get...
[05:10] <tubuliferous> and no when I choose my Mint installation in Grub I get a black screen
[05:10] <tubuliferous> I have an Nvidia card, and I had some trouble setting it up initially...
[05:10] <Ben64> well then you should head to the mint support channel at #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[05:11] <tubuliferous> This is essentially an ubuntu issue
[05:11] <Ben64> it is a mint issue
[05:12] <tubuliferous> Oh, ok...
[05:13] <ManInTheShed> Hello?
[05:17] <Prutheus> Hello! I am on arch-linux. Now, I don't know why, some of the icons of fontawesome, are not displayed correctly anymore. I don't know why, before all have worked fine, but now, only some icons are broken. How could I fix this?
[05:18] <FatSpitfire> tubuliferous , I always say : "Use Grub4dos" :D
[05:18] <tubuliferous> Grub4dos?
[05:19] <ManInTheShed> No clue, sorry >_<
[05:20] <FatSpitfire> comes in Puppy linux - make a dualboot usb with puppy alongside Ubuntu live iso (or whatever) :D
[05:20] <Ben64> Prutheus: wrong channel man
[05:20] <FatSpitfire> tubuliferous , comes in Puppy linux - make a dualboot usb with puppy alongside Ubuntu live iso (or whatever) :D
[05:21] <Prutheus> Ben64: nope. I can also ask linux questions here.
[05:21] <Ben64> Prutheus: incorrect
[05:22] <FatSpitfire> Grub4dos handles dual , trial , or more - boot like a pro !
[05:23] <ManInTheShed> Okay, I don't want to sound needy, but I can't fix this problem... Whenever i try to delete a file, I get an error like "Unable to create trashing file for <file>: Permission denied. Is there a way to fix this? I feel so dumb.
[05:23] <him-cesjf> wafflejock: I opened htop but couldn't otice any strnage process causing this issue. Sorry for late reply
[05:23] <FatSpitfire> ManInTheShed , open your terminal : sudo su
[05:24] <ManInTheShed> okay
[05:24] <FatSpitfire> ManInTheShed , than : sudo sinoptic (what was ubuntu`s file manager ?)
[05:24] <him-cesjf> notice* strange*
[05:25] <FatSpitfire> ManInTheShed , that`s how you open your file manager as root and have all the privileges ;)
[05:25] <ManInTheShed> Oh okay, thanks!!
[05:27] <Bashing-om> ManInTheShed: What are the permissions on the filke that you are trashing " ls -al <file> ' ? Maybe "you" do not have the access rights to that file ?
[05:27] <ManInTheShed> Bashing om: I'm not sure, I'm a noob at Linux.
[05:28] <ManInTheShed> I'll check brb.
[05:30] <varaindemian> Don't know why I get this error and why the screen looks like this after I tell it to try it without installing or to install it https://imgur.com/a/ndqp4
[05:30] <varaindemian> Is there any option to force a resolution
[05:33] <ManInTheShed> Bashing-om: I have access to the file, it gives me the error every time I want to delete a file, (I can still delete them, but only perm-delete, not move to trash)
[05:33] <FatSpitfire> varaindemian , how many cpu cores have you assined to that server ?
[05:34] <Guest6969696> How do I backup either a snap or the configurations to export a snap(and configs) to another server?
[05:36] <Bashing-om> ManInTheShed: show the output of the ls command . If "you" do not have the rights, you can not delete the file .
[05:36] <ManInTheShed> okay
[05:36] <FatSpitfire> Guest6969696 , donno , but I would try some resque live CDs - there are a lot of good tools among them
[05:36] <stacks88`> im out of the loop, just got on ubuntu 16.04 , should i not be using iptables anymore? what should i be using?
[05:37] <ManInTheShed> Bashing-om: -rw-rw-r-- 1 ben ben 1793 Oct 21 14:01 dum28.cpp
[05:37] <FatSpitfire> ManInTheShed , did it work ? remember that you have to log in as root : suso su :)
[05:37] <varaindemian> FatSpitfire, 1
[05:37] <Guest6969696> FatSpitfire, im not having a problem. Im trying to understand how to back a snap up.
[05:38] <Lewoco> I used xmodmap to modify the behavior of the caps lock key and that is working great, but the caps lock LED still toggles every time I press it. How do I disable this?
[05:38] <ManInTheShed> FatSpitFire: Yeah, I can delete it that way, just a bit of hassle every time I want to delete a file.
[05:39] <varaindemian> FatSpitfire, set it to 2
[05:39] <FatSpitfire> Guest6969696 , live rescue cd iso have tools for backing up or cloning or whatever - learn to use other distro`s live cd - they`re as good as Ubuntu
[05:39] <varaindemian> FatSpitfire, now it works sir
[05:39] <Guest6969696> FatSpitfire, nevermind, thanks.
[05:39] <FatSpitfire> np :)
[05:40] <FatSpitfire> Guest6969696 , i`m not naggin - just givin you an advice :)
[05:40] <geirha> ManInTheShed: Is it in the terminal you get that error message?
[05:40] <FatSpitfire> Guest6969696 , sorry I meant varaindemian :D :D
[05:41] <ManInTheShed> geirha No, it's when I right-click and click "Move to trash"
[05:41]  * Guest6969696 knows about live rescue but is asking for something else.
[05:42] <geirha> ManInTheShed: Ok, so it's a different partition than your homedir is on?
[05:43] <Bashing-om> ManInTheShed: Only other thing I can think of is that you are not logged in as 'ben' ??
[05:43] <varaindemian> FatSpitfire, who said you are nagging me?
[05:44] <FatSpitfire> varaindemian , donno , sorry - I thought you`re someone else :D
[05:45] <FatSpitfire> Guest6969696 , be more specific than
[05:45] <varaindemian> FatSpitfire, also, how did that work? :D
[05:45] <ManInTheShed> Bashing-om Maybe, I changed my username a while ago, but my terminal still says "Ben@Mutron" so idk
[05:46] <ManInTheShed> geirha I'm pretty sure my home directory is on the same partition...
[05:47] <geirha> Ah, changing username might explain it
[05:47] <geirha> That's no trivial task
[05:47] <FatSpitfire> varaindemian , well the guy left dissapointed :( I should keep my mouth shut
[05:47] <ManInTheShed> Maybe...
[05:48] <varaindemian> FatSpitfire, hehe lol I am not, is that a bug?
[05:48] <FatSpitfire> varaindemian , what is a bug ? :D
[05:49] <geirha> ManInTheShed: Would have to see the steps you went through to chagne your username to determine what steps you missed
[05:50] <varaindemian> FatSpitfire, I am just trying to understand why it worked :'(
[05:51] <FatSpitfire> varaindemian , you were using a 64-bit iso on a one cored processor :)
[05:52] <ManInTheShed> geirha that was a long time ago, but I think I just went to Settings -> User Accounts, and changed it to say "Muto" instead of "Ben", not sure if that's a username or just a login name.
[05:52] <varaindemian> thank you :)
[05:52] <geirha> ManInTheShed: Ah, that likely only changed the name, which is a trivial change
[05:52] <ManInTheShed> Okay.
[05:53] <ManInTheShed> Well, I'm going to bed than, lol, thanks anyway, guys!!
[05:54] <geirha> ManInTheShed: Do all the directories listed by this show that they are owned by your user?  ls -ld ~{,/.local{,/share{,/Trash{,/*}}}}
[05:54] <ManInTheShed> ou
[05:54] <ManInTheShed> oh
[05:54] <ManInTheShed> Okay
[05:54] <Bashing-om> ManInTheShed: When you do terminal command ' who ' .. are the returns all 'ben' or some other user name ?
[05:55] <FatSpitfire> varaindemian , no prob
[05:55] <ManInTheShed> Bashing-om ben      tty7         2016-10-25 22:04 (:0)
[05:56] <Bashing-om> ManInTheShed: You is you then - ben - . something else some where else .
[05:57] <ManInTheShed> geirha there are two outputs that say root, drwx------ 10 root root 4096 Oct 25 15:02 /home/ben/.local/share/Trash/files     and    drwx------  2 root root 4096 Oct 25 15:02 /home/ben/.local/share/Trash/info
[05:57] <geirha> ManInTheShed: Ah, owned by root. That's the problem.
[05:57] <ManInTheShed> Alright!
[05:58] <the_rooter> hey guys
[05:58] <geirha> sudo chown -R "$USER:" ~/.local/share/Trash  # reclaim your trash
[05:58] <the_rooter> has there been a fix for the wifi issue on 16.04 yet?
[05:59] <ManInTheShed> geirha Thanks!! It works!
[05:59] <ManInTheShed> Been like a full year with that trash problem
[06:01] <the_rooter> anyone on?
[06:01] <kicksled> good morning
[06:01] <ManInTheShed> The_rooter I'm on, but probably gonna log off soon
[06:02] <the_rooter> just a question about 16.04
[06:02] <kicksled> shoot
[06:02] <the_rooter> last time i had it fresh install the wifi wasnt working and i seen a few post stating its kernel related...but i tested out linux mint and it works great
[06:02] <the_rooter> is there a fix of the wifi issue
[06:03] <the_rooter> sorry for bringing up another os but rather get back to ubuntu
[06:04] <ManInTheShed> The_rooter my solution is to just upgrade to 16.10, lol, But tbh I have no idea, sorry.
[06:05] <the_rooter> ok?
[06:05] <hateball> the_rooter: You could try telling us what chipset you're using
[06:05] <Ben64> what is "the wifi issue"
[06:05] <kicksled> the 16.04.1 release had some firmware updates in the kernel relating to wifi
[06:05] <kicksled> as far as I know
[06:06] <ManInTheShed> Oh, happy mignight Mountain timezone, guys!
[06:06] <kicksled> the_rooter: which wifi card do you have?
[06:06] <SURU> i don't have vrohh
[06:08] <the_rooter> sorry guys had a crying kid to tend to...
[06:09] <the_rooter> processor is intel core i3-4170 cpu @3.70GHz
[06:09] <Ben64> processor doesn't really matter
[06:10] <the_rooter> broadcom corporation: BCM43142 802.11 b/g/n
[06:10] <kicksled> ah broadcom
[06:13] <hateball> the_rooter: should be able to install the firmware for that card through the additional drivers gui
[06:13] <kicksled> the_rooter: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers
[06:13] <kicksled> if what hateball said dont work
[06:13] <FatSpitfire> the_rooter , try to change Wifi channel on your router - try with one of channels from 1 to 9
[06:13] <hateball> otherwise I think a "sudo apt install bcmwl-kernel-source" should do it
[06:14] <the_rooter> i have dont that kicksled and hateball and was a no go...i can try again and see if it goes
[06:14] <the_rooter> thanks guys i will try again
[06:16] <ManInTheShed> Welp, I'm out. Bye, friends!
[06:33] <hakan_> hi there
[06:33] <hakan_> Any one here?
[06:34] <hakan_> I have a problem with virtualbox
[06:34] <varaindemian> FatSpitfire, the vm won't see the usb drive if I initially set it to usb 1.1
[06:34] <varaindemian> do I need a reinstall to fix that?
[06:51] <fajarlaksono> whats is unmount mean in drive ?
[06:52] <fajarlaksono> anyone still alive ?
[06:52] <Caluser2000> NO!
[06:52] <Bashing-om> fajarlaksono: context ?
[06:54] <fajarlaksono> right click on the disc and there is unmount option what is that ?
[06:54] <fajarlaksono> how to mount it back ?
[06:55] <fajarlaksono> hallo ?
[06:55] <fajarlaksono> hallo !!!!!
[06:55] <ubmt> how save channel log?
[06:56] <fajarlaksono> can any one answer my question
[06:56] <ubmt> help me
[06:56] <ashrov> HI, Can you please help me to run command which find only file and symbolic link ? I am using find -L -type f
[06:57] <ashrov> but I don't want to follow the symbolic link just to find the file link itself
[06:57] <ubmt> fajarlaksono:you can mount it back
[06:58] <fajarlaksono> how to do that ?
[06:58] <ubmt> for example mount /dev/sda
[06:59] <fajarlaksono> terminal ? alright thanks you
[07:00] <ubmt> yes
[07:01] <fajarlaksono> any one know every statement you input to terminal ? or you just copy that from the internet, i want to know every digit that i input...
[07:01] <ubmt> how to save the conversation content???anyone know how to do?
[07:02] <Bashing-om> fajarlaksono: Well, -- when a device (disk) is in use .. data is in cache ,, this cache is written to the device when unmounted . Now a faulure to unmount can and does lead to a dirty file system .. and that will cause ya all kinds of issues ,
[07:03] <ducasse> ubmt: read the docs for your irc client
[07:03] <kegan_> gnome volume overlay is displaying the wrong volume, and shows up of its own accord frequently
[07:05] <fajarlaksono> why unmount button exist ? lol...
[07:06] <Ben64> fajarlaksono: so you can unmount things
[07:07] <kegan_> how can i figure out whether this is my hardware or some kind of package issue?
[07:09] <Bashing-om> fajarlaksono: History : ' less ~/.bash_history ' . As a terminal command .
[07:09] <fajarlaksono> what is that ?
[07:10] <kicksled> fajarlaksono: a command for viewing your .bash_history file in terminal
[07:11] <Bashing-om> fajarlaksono: " i want to know every digit that i input..." ^^ :)
[07:12] <fajarlaksono> thas not what i meant...
[07:12] <shaygrant> hello
[07:13] <fajarlaksono> hallo too
[07:13] <kicksled> fajarlaksono: what device are you trying to mount?
[07:14] <fajarlaksono> i not trying to unmount, just ask..
[07:14] <fajarlaksono> just wondering about unmount
[07:15] <kicksled> ok. type in man umount in a terminal window, brings up the manual on the unmount command.
[07:15] <kicksled> fajarlaksono: a good read on mount and usb drives: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[07:17] <kicksled> I would recommend reading those resources for learning more about mounting/unmounting at least
[07:20] <linocisco> how to make my ubuntu restart and shutdown faster?
[07:22] <kicksled> linocisco: start with removing unnecessary startup applications
[07:22] <kicksled> don't remove anything you don't know what is
[07:22] <linocisco> kicksled, I tried
[07:22] <fajarlaksono> ubuntu already fast for me
[07:23] <fajarlaksono> how to ubdate ubuntu without download and re instal ubuntu. like i have ubuntu 16 and i want ubuntu 17 without re-instal computer, can i ?
[07:25] <kicksled> linocisco: in a terminal you can run the command systemd-analyze blame to see which processes takes long to initialize, can give you an indicator of what to do also
[07:25] <ikevin> fajarlaksono, use apt
[07:26] <ducasse> fajarlaksono: you can upgrade from one version to the next with update-manager
[07:27] <migueld> ubuntu 16? i thought the latest was 15.10?
[07:27] <fajarlaksono> i'm 16
[07:27] <fajarlaksono> 16.04 LTS
[07:27] <migueld> oops
[07:27] <migueld> i mean 16.10
[07:27] <ducasse> migueld: latest is 16.10, 15.10 is eol
[07:27] <migueld> oh okay
[07:28] <migueld> sorry wrong number
[07:28] <migueld> but 17 is not out yet right?
[07:28] <ducasse> migueld: no
[07:28] <fajarlaksono> 17 is next year
[07:28] <fajarlaksono> i guest
[07:28] <kicksled> 16.10 is the newest
[07:28] <migueld> why are people telling him how to update to 17?
[07:28] <Ben64> nobody is
 how to ubdate ubuntu without download and re instal ubuntu. like i have ubuntu 16 and i want ubuntu 17 without re-instal computer, can i ?
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 linocisco: in a terminal you can run the command systemd-analyze blame to see which processes takes long to initialize, can give you an indicator of what to do also
[07:29] <Ben64> migueld: don't paste a bunch of stuff
 fajarlaksono: you can upgrade from one version to the next with update-manager
[07:29] <ducasse> migueld: i told him how to upgrade in general, i didn't say anything about 17
[07:29] <migueld> i meant that
[07:30] <migueld> well he was asking about 17
[07:30] <migueld> no one even said it was not out lol
[07:30] <ducasse> migueld: and i gave him a general answer
[07:30] <migueld> wow
[07:30] <fajarlaksono> LOL
[07:30] <migueld> 17 is not out would have been a good answer
[07:30] <migueld> :)
[07:30] <Ben64> migueld: relax, buddy
[07:31] <kicksled> fajarlaksono: 17.04 isn't scheduled to be released until april next year. but in general you can either upgrade via software updater or via terminal and apt
[07:31] <migueld> poor guy might have been trying over and over to get 17
[07:31] <migueld> lol
[07:31] <Ben64> migueld: stop already
[07:31] <migueld> you guys could use some help with tech support
[07:32] <migueld> sometimes I wonder if you guys don't just come here to fuck with people
[07:32] <migueld> sad
[07:32] <migueld> i guess you dont have anything else to do
[07:32] <Ben64> migueld: right now you're spamming the channel, you're the problem.
[07:32] <ducasse> migueld: he was clearly just giving an example.
[07:32] <migueld> nah you telling someone how to get 17 when ITS NOT EVE FUCKING OUT YET
[07:32] <Ben64> i didn't tell him a damn thing you idiot
[07:33] <wiiguy> migueld dont just highlight me
[07:33] <migueld> he was asking about 17 fucktard
[07:33] <fajarlaksono> it's just example.
[07:33] <Ben64> i still didn't say a damn thing to him, you need to work on your reading comprehension. he already knows 17 is not out yet, so DROP IT ALREADY
[07:33] <kicksled> migueld: well, case closed. he got an answer, both about release date for 17.04 and upgrading in general.
[07:33] <cariaso> 16.0.4 seems to have enabled automatic-upgrades on first boot? I'm on a starcluster, and my code runs as a plugin, and needs to apt-get install some packages, but it's often losing the race, and blocked by the autoupdate, causing my plugin to crash.
[07:33] <migueld> i was saying in general buddy ahhah
[07:34] <migueld> well im glad someone told him
[07:34] <cariaso> I don't see an easy way to beat it to the punch, I don't want to build a new ami. Can anyone suggest a safe way to kill or workaround this?
[07:36] <kicksled> linocisco: you could also check this thread for some tips around slow boot and shutdown, maybe some of the tips mentioned there will work. (note, haven't tested them myself, just thought you could check it out as it looks to have a few good tips) https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/help-with-slow-boot-and-shutdown-of-16-04/5622
[07:36] <ducasse> cariaso: uninstalling unattended-upgrades will disable them.
[07:36] <sonu_nk> Hi i am new to Ubuntu.. if i have plain cloud ubuntu .. then we need to run a domain on that.. for this we need to setup a host ?
[07:37] <cariaso> ducasse, even if they're already actively running?
[07:38] <ducasse> cariaso: just purge the package, it won't autoupdate again.
[07:39] <oliver8282> hi
[07:39] <fajarlaksono> hi oliver8282
[07:49] <thekrynn> hi... is there any reason why running the same basic commands in a bash script in a loop over and over would cause the commands to take longer and longer?
[07:49] <Ben64> thekrynn: you're going to have to be more specific
[07:49] <thekrynn> echo "${dtu} - (${dtu} % 86400)" | b
[07:49] <thekrynn> echo "${dtu} - (${dtu} % 86400)" | bc
[07:50] <omnip> im
[07:50] <thekrynn> im running about 5 of those (similar variants), and when the script first starts, they take 0.2s and after a few minutes, its taking over a second
[07:50] <thekrynn> dtu is an integer
[07:51] <thekrynn> i feel as though im spinning up too many pipes or something of the sort
[07:53] <Ben64> thekrynn: might want to ask in #bash
[07:54] <fajarlaksono> yoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyo
[07:55] <crash_> ok...
[07:55] <fajarlaksono> anyone have recommendation music ?
[07:55] <thekrynn> thanks
[07:56] <Mathisen> fajarlaksono, i heard that #chat or #defocus gor a god beat going for you
[07:57] <fajarlaksono> lol i got wrong room sorry. i thoung i chat with my friends at university...
[07:57] <fajarlaksono> i'm so sorry
[08:02] <Haris> hello all
[08:02] <kicksled> ello
[08:03] <Haris> I updated LC_TIME to en_US in /etc/default/locale and ran dpkg-reconfigure locales. that hasn't helped in changing that language back to english
[08:03] <Haris> how does one do it ? does it require reboot ?
[08:03] <Haris> this is 14.04 lts
[08:05] <kicksled> Haris: what does your /etc/default/locale say in the line LANG= ?
[08:05] <Haris> LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
[08:06] <kicksled> Haris: try to log out and back in after making the changes
[08:06] <Aterwyn> join freenode
[08:06] <Haris> yep. workign
[08:06] <Haris> working+
[08:08] <ameurux> hello
[08:08] <kicksled> hi ameurux
[08:08] <ameurux> anyone experienced samba install errors?
[08:08] <ameurux> on 16.10
[08:08] <ameurux> ?
[08:09] <kicksled> what error are you getting?
[08:09] <ameurux> it hangs on installing package
[08:10] <ameurux> all works fine except samba
[08:10] <Ben64> you need to paste the error for anyone to be able to help
[08:11] <ameurux> yeah just a min
[08:11] <ameurux> I have to login from my Linux Machine
[08:13] <cariaso> ducasse, I won't be able to test this for a while, but thank you for the suggestion
[08:17] <Bloom> Hello everyone, i am trying to install this csgosl from github: https://github.com/lenosisnickerboa/csgosl/wiki/Installing%20a%20new%20server
[08:18] <Bloom> I am getting an error code saying:no display name and no $DISPLAY environment variable     while executing "load /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtk8.5.so Tk"     ("package ifneeded Tk 8.5.19" script)     invoked from within "package require Tk"     (file "bin/csgosl.tcl" line 6)
[08:19] <gerry_> hi I have written an app in java and packaged it in a .deb is it not possible to upload it to the ubuntu software center anymore?
[08:19] <ducasse> !motu | gerry_
[08:20] <Bloom> is there any support in here?
[08:21] <gerry_> ok thanks for the quick answer
[08:21] <linux_g10> @Bloom what do you need help with?
[08:21] <Bloom> I am trying to install a script from github and i don't get anything of the error messages
[08:22] <ducasse> Bloom: $DISPLAY is unset, how and where are you running this?
[08:23] <Bloom> i have an old computer i installed ubuntu on which im trying to run it on, i have contacted the author of the script and he can get it work on his linux computer
[08:23] <ducasse> Bloom: it needs access to an x server
[08:23] <Bloom> What need access? My computer?
[08:24] <ducasse> Bloom: the script, it needs to run under a gui
[08:25] <Bloom> i don't get it, so what do i need to do? I've followed the guide that he put and i have installed tk and tcl. Do i need to have a screen connected to my ubuntu based server=
[08:25] <Bloom> ?
[08:26] <Mathisen> Bloom, are using the server with ssh only ?
[08:26] <Bloom> yea right now, but at home i have screen and keyboard
[08:26] <Bloom> just not connected
[08:26] <Mathisen> Bloom, are you connecting from a windows machine ?
[08:26] <Bloom> yes
[08:27] <ducasse> Bloom: won't work.
[08:27] <Mathisen> Bloom, then you need putty + xming
[08:27] <Bloom> how do i do that?
[08:27] <kicksled> Bloom: you want the cs go dedicated server, not the graphical interface. thats my guess. check http://bit.ly/2dVqOQg
[08:28] <Bloom> no i want the graphical interface but i thought i could get it on Linux? and then use my screen and keyboard to my Ubuntu based machine
[08:29] <kicksled> Bloom: then putty + xming, see how to install here http://www.geo.mtu.edu/geoschem/docs/putty_install.html
[08:29] <klimicz_> Hello i have some problem with sound in headphones. Yesterday i was trying to save power via powertop and today i am having problem with headphones and idle state... while nothing is playing music ... wait 5 sec.. and a nd play a little bump... if i turn some music app on or some song the noise will again play i thing it is some power saving feature but i want to disable it
[08:30] <Bloom> So from this xming i will be able to connect to the server and run the gui on my windows machine?
[08:31] <kicksled> Bloom: yeah, xming lets you run gui remotely
[08:31] <Bloom> Wow, thank you guys:)
[08:35] <klimicz_> anyone?
[08:35] <Bloom> I can't u
[08:35] <Bloom> I can't open xming tho? but putty works
[08:36] <ducasse> Bloom: you need to ask in ##windows for that, we only support ubuntu
[08:36] <Bloom> How do i connect to an irc? i found this on a website
[08:37] <ducasse> Bloom: /join ##windows
[08:38] <Chukaru> hello
[08:38] <DerRaiden> Is the wifi problem with the networkmanager still there on Ubuntu 16.10 ?
[08:39] <ouroumov_> DerRaiden, that's an overly vague query considering the number of problems with networking
[08:39] <Chukaru> there is a 90gb folder, and i have three 32gb usb drives. is it possible to make archived (zip?) parts of the 90gb folder and place each part in each drive, so i can reassemble all the parts together back into the original 90gb folder?
[08:40] <Chukaru> that is: make three 30gb zip files for each drive
[08:40] <Chukaru> so i can reassemble the zip files into a single one later on
[08:41] <Ben64> Chukaru: yep
[08:41] <ouroumov_> Chukaru, yes
[08:41] <Chukaru> how
[08:41] <Ben64> you can make split rars, split zips, or split anything by using "split"
[08:42] <ouroumov_> Depending on the version of Ubuntu you're using, there's also a split option when creating the archive with a GUI
[08:42] <ouroumov_> I'm seeing it on Ubuntu MATE 16.04
[08:42] <DerRaiden> ouroumov_: sorry there was a networkmanager problem on 16.04 when you came back from suspend that shows no wifi or no accesspoints
[08:42] <Chukaru> im (somewhat?) of a newbie on linux, and am using ubuntu 12.04
[08:42] <Bloom> Mathisen: what should i configure in Putty for it to work?
[08:42] <Chukaru> so im not exactly sure how to proceed, can you elaborate?
[08:42] <Ben64> 12.04 is no longer supported, you need to upgrade
[08:42] <Ben64> wait, i forgot how to math
[08:43] <DerRaiden> after restart networkmanager everything is ok
[08:43] <Ben64> it runs out of support in April
[08:43] <Chukaru> so it is supported as of this moment, Ben64?
[08:43] <Ben64> Chukaru: anyway, easiest would be to tar the whole thing, then use split
[08:43] <Ben64> Chukaru: yes, it's late and i forgot how to add 5 to 12
[08:44] <Mathisen> Bloom, you got link how to setup that.. but you need to export the screen on your ubuntu server > export DISPLAY=<my ip address>:0
[08:44] <Chukaru> Ben64: ok, thanks!
[08:44] <Bloom> Oh right sorry for that, so many links heh
[08:45] <Calyd0n> #q
[08:45] <ziscqo> test
[08:48] <Bloom> Mathisen: in X11 settings should i put localhost:0.0, my internal or external IP?
[08:50] <ziscqo> test
[08:50] <kicksled> DerRaiden: I haven't noticed any problems on my 16.10 lubuntu install, but can't confirm if the bug is fixed or not.
[08:51] <Mathisen> Bloom, local if it is xming settings you talking about
[08:51] <DerRaiden> i've tested with ubuntu mate and it's still there :/
[08:51] <Bloom> it is putty in the X11 section
[08:51] <Wulf> Good Morning.
[08:51] <ziscqo> test test
[08:52] <Wulf> How can I boot Ubuntu over network? It should include a desktop environment and I can't use nfs or similar. Preferred would be to load a full iso image into RAM
[08:52] <Mathisen> Bloom, local there also
[08:55] <kicksled> DerRaiden: there are some workarounds for it I think
[08:55] <Mathisen> Wulf, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[08:56] <Bloom> Thank you alot Mathisen & kicksled, works now. I appreciate:) How can i save this IRC for future help? Do i need to download an IRC client or can i connect directly through a link?
[08:57] <kicksled> Bloom: best way is to install a irc client. check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[08:57] <multifractal> Network manager applet crashed (so I don't have the little icon of wave-fronts in my top panel. How can I restart it?
[08:57] <Mathisen> Bloom, both of your sugestions work.. but the "best" irc experience would be to download an irc client, i recomend hexchat
[08:59] <Mathisen> multifractal, sudo service network-manager restart
[08:59] <ducasse> multifractal: the applet is 'nm-applet'
[09:13] <Wulf> Mathisen: this howto looks like it needs NFS. Which is not possible for my setup
[09:18] <ppf> Wulf: PXE boot uses TFTP
[09:19] <Wulf> ppf: yes. But I need a big root fs. I want to load it into RAM
[09:19] <Wulf> ppf: I want to be able to pull the network plug after the boot and it should still work
[09:19] <ppf> pxe boot is just the boot
[09:19] <Wulf> yes, I know that.
[09:20] <ppf> it'll download and bootstrap a second stage package
[09:20] <ppf> http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php?title=PXELINUX
[09:22] <Wulf> ppf: exactly. So how do I download the root fs (e.g. as iso image) and boot from it?
[09:22] <Wulf> ppf: do I need to modify the initrd?
[09:22] <Wulf> or is there an easier way like someone did it before?
[09:23] <lakitu> hi; i've been trying to install ubuntu for days and can't figure out the problem. i think it's UEFI related. anyway i've been getting this message when i try to boot, with 2 checked Ubuntu 16 discs: "the 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot."
[09:24] <lakitu> its toward the end of a 'something else' ubuntu install, and like it says, it won't boot after that
[09:24] <lakitu> it's.*
[09:24] <lakitu> it's my main machine, hard to do stuff with it down
[09:24] <lakitu> my mainframe
[09:24] <lakitu> (ha ha)
[09:27] <lakitu> when i try to install, i meant. not boot
[09:27] <lakitu> toward the end of the gui install, it says that ("the 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot.")
[09:28] <lakitu> /target/ sounds like a generic placeholder name, like its not getting some actual directory name or somesuch. but that is beyond what i'm going to go fix to get my/an os running
[09:29] <lakitu> mint had too many hardware problems and other detractions, i'm looking to migrate back to ubuntu with this install
[09:32]  * lakitu food, be back in a few
[09:37] <lakitu> i guess, my only other clue is that during install, it says something about 'continue in uefi, or go back' and i always just push continue
[09:37] <lakitu> i read up about uefi, vs. bios, and i couldn't really figure out what i needed to do re uefi being a new standard, if that is why my install glitches out
[09:39] <Ben64> lakitu: if you're not dual booting with something that requires efi, i'd suggest turning it off and booting old school
[09:40] <lakitu> how? in my uefi menu when i turn on the computer?
[09:40] <Ben64> yeah should be
[09:40] <Ben64> you should look for 'legacy boot' maybe and disable secure boot if you see it, etc
[09:40] <lakitu> and what if i want to install win 8 or newer eventually -- is it easy to switch over and have ubuntu still work AND get win 8 or higher to work
[09:40] <lakitu> ok
[09:41] <Ben64> windows can install in bios mode too
[09:41] <lakitu> even newer ones?
[09:41] <Ben64> yeah, unless i'm mistaken
[09:41] <lakitu> hmm. i thought like 8 and/or 10 needed uefi, i could be wrong
[09:41] <Ben64> to be windows certified oem it has to be
[09:42] <lakitu> because some hardware doesn't work in linux, last i tried, so . . .    ok
[09:42] <lakitu> i thought i read otherwise
[09:42] <Ben64> i'm like 98% sure
[09:42] <lakitu> misread/bad information
[09:42] <lakitu> ok
[09:42] <lakitu> so ok, turn off uefi
[09:43] <Ben64> although i think windows might need uefi to use gpt partition tables
[09:43] <lakitu> mm. well my raid array is in gpt, i think
[09:43] <Ben64> might want to head to ##windows to make sure
[09:47] <ducasse> if i'm not mistaken, windows can only boot from gpt disks in uefi mode, but it can still read them anyway
[09:48] <Sourcey> If I need to set up a mx record - what is the hostname that is needed? Where do I find it?
[09:48] <bozo68> what happened to xchat in yakkety
[09:48] <Ben64> bozo68: xchat has been unmaintained for a while
[09:48] <Ben64> Sourcey: your mail provider will give you that information
[09:49] <Sourcey> Creating my own mail server Ben64
[09:49] <Ben64> then you ought to know
[09:49] <DerRaiden> kicksled: yeah i found one to set a systemctl service script to restart nm
[09:49] <Sourcey> I dont, thats why I need help
[09:50] <Ben64> Sourcey: then, and i don't mean this in a bad way, but you probably shouldn't be running a mail server
[09:50] <bozo68> Ben64: Where can I find a list of packages that got discontinued in yakkety?
[09:50] <Sourcey> Got to start somewhere Ben64, cant learn without doing
[09:50] <Ben64> so start by reading
[09:51] <Ben64> bozo68: i'm not sure if such a list exists anywhere
[09:51] <lakitu> ducasse you're right
[09:51] <bozo68> Ben64: Ok, thanks anyway
[09:51] <lakitu> according to eirirs in ##windows anyway
[09:56] <ducasse> Sourcey: the mx record points to your mail server. running a mail server requires a certain level of knowledge, so i urge you to think about this.
[10:11] <pragomer_1> had to hard reset my pc and now my icon theme isnt used any more. neither the window decoration.. plus: I cannot change the theme anymore. can select it in tweak tool but it isnt shown. any hints?
[10:15] <davesidious> Hey folks - how would one delete all directories in the filesytem which do not match specified paths?
[10:18] <ducasse> davesidious: 'find', for example
[10:18] <davesidious> ducasse - I'm aware of its existence, but I don't know how to use it to do what I asked :)
[10:19] <Ben64> sounds like the precursor to "help i deleted my filesystem, how do i fix it??"
[10:19] <davesidious> I'm creating Ubuntu docker images and I want to clean them out.
[10:19] <ducasse> davesidious: then read the man page :) it can do tests, and negate them.
[10:19] <davesidious> Ben64 - so that's not really a problem :)
[10:20] <davesidious> thanks, ducasse.  Wonderfully helpful :)
[10:22] <ducasse> davesidious: something like 'find / \! -name dir-to-exclude'
[10:23] <ducasse> davesidious: then 'find / \! -name dir-to-exclude -delete' when you are happy with the output.
[10:24] <davesidious> ducasse - thanks - I'll have a look.
[10:24] <ducasse> davesidious: look at the bottom of the man page, the examples section.
[10:38] <ootani> xrffff
[10:38] <FManTropyx> what's up?
[10:39] <mmm_> Help guys, i have installed fullscreen aplication that closes top menu bar (because app should be in kiosk mode), and i need widget or smth else that will popup current language when user changes language by alt shift combination, can you help me?
[10:39] <ootani> my cat steps
[10:40] <mmm_> Help guys, i have installed fullscreen aplication that closes top menu bar (because app should be in kiosk mode), and i need widget or smth else that will popup current language when user changes language by alt shift combination, can you help me?
[10:42] <grassy> what kind of fucked up bullshit garbage is it that ubuntu 16.04 cant fucking deal with rar files? what kind of shit eating assface coder decided that it was ok to release an update when it cant even handle a "natively supported file-format"? seriously, fuck ubuntu and every shit felching fuckbag who works on it
[10:43] <FManTropyx> lol
[10:43] <FManTropyx> RAR is so 90s, who uses it anymore
[10:44] <mmm_> Help guys, i have installed fullscreen aplication that closes top menu bar (because app should be in kiosk mode), and i need widget or smth else that will popup current language when user changes language by alt shift combination, can you help me?
[10:44] <mmm_> Help guys, i have installed fullscreen aplication that closes top menu bar (because app should be in kiosk mode), and i need widget or smth else that will popup current language when user changes language by alt shift combination, can you help me?
[10:44] <ducasse> FManTropyx: the warez crowd, at least
[10:44] <hateball> !patience | mmm_
[10:44] <FManTropyx> I bet they still use ARJ too :P
[10:45] <yakar> mmm_: sudo apt-get install rar
[10:46] <mrbinaer> yakar: i think you mean grassy and not mmm_ :)
[10:46] <mmm_> rar? rly?
[10:46] <FManTropyx> I wouldn't even want rar on my system :P
[10:47] <FManTropyx> for me it's XZ or nothing!
[10:47] <mmm_> doesnt anybody made a widget that alerts user current language for 3-4 seconds
[10:51] <yakar> mmm_: rar for your first question :) i dont no second one..
[10:57] <ducasse> mmm_: i'm guessing layout switch is communicated over dbus, so you could create a script that listens for that and sends a notification. don't know of anything pre-made.
[11:00] <lakitu> wow, i think that worked Ben (Ben64). at least it didn't throw an error, and said it finished.  fwiw i was getting that error about a 'grub-efi-signed' package failing to install or something similar, and also it before it was asking if i wanted to continue, since i was in uefi. i googled and found 'asrock uefi setup utility' (my uefi setup screen) requires switching "CSM" to enabled
[11:00] <lakitu> that worked
[11:00] <lakitu> i'm in
[11:00] <lakitu> thanks
[11:00] <mmm_> ducasse thank you
[11:00] <mmm_> will investigate such script
[11:24] <mtgr> do you know how to connect unbuntu to chrmoecast ?
[11:30] <BluesKaj> Hi Folks
[11:38] <rocket__> hi so far i really like ubuntu unity
[11:38] <rocket__> installing the nvidia drivers been a little crappy
[11:38] <rocket__> but else it works better than windows
[11:39] <rocket__> which has issues with my network card ;)
[11:39] <rocket__> anyway is there a better dock which is better organized for more icons
[11:41] <trijntje> rocket__: might be easiest to decrease the icon size
[11:42] <rocket__> true
[11:42] <rocket__> well i like the bar
[11:42] <rocket__> another question
[11:42] <rocket__> anyone managed to do gpu pass on nvidia
[11:42] <rocket__> ?
[11:42] <rocket__> with qemu
[11:42] <ducasse> rocket__: does your machine support vt-d?
[11:43] <rocket__> yes
[11:43] <rocket__> unfortunately i have no amd card
[11:43] <rocket__> gtx 1070
[11:43] <rocket__> it supports vt-d and vt-x
[11:43] <rocket__> also my cpu does
[11:43] <rocket__> ducasse, you did it?
[11:44] <trijntje> rocket__: try not to use the enter key that much ;)
[11:44] <ducasse> rocket__: never tried, but i've seen a few guides online. if noone here responds i would try a bit of googling.
[11:45] <rocket__> trijntje, ok
[11:45] <wafflejock> him-cesjf, no problem almost missed your message in the history there though :) let me know if you're around today and still having the problem can maybe help troubleshoot
[11:46] <rocket__> ducasse, ok i think i will find a lot online, but i have been told its a bit tricky to do that for nvidia
[11:47] <dgo> Hi here. I'm using a bluetooth headset.  It works great, except I always have to restart the bluetooth service, otherwise the A2DP sink mode does not work. Any idea ?
[11:49]  * theDoomGuy 's 
[11:50] <gutengok> i'm lending my computer to my gf (she's an engineer) and I don't want her to look into my past life. I've searched for *.pub and *.pem and deleted a few keys (I found even keys I forgot I had) ... any other extension I should search for?
[11:53] <rocket__> gutengok, i would not do that ;-) you always forget something
[11:54] <dgo> gutengok: *.jpg
[11:56] <kille> hey guys. anyone here ever use citrix to run lync on ubuntu?
[11:56] <lordcirth_> gutengok, do you need anything on the computer?  Backup onto a USB and reinstall
[11:57] <gutengok> i want to search for extensions
[11:58] <gutengok> if reinstalling was an option i wouldnt ask this thx
[12:01] <lordcirth_> gutengok, ok.  Well, yeah, all picture and video extensions, clear all browsers & caches, if you want to be paranoid, you can zerofill the free space when you're done, or use shred to delete
[12:02] <gutengok> thanks
[12:04] <pandaadb> hi - is there a tool that can create a bootable windows usb stick on ubuntu?
[12:04] <pandaadb> I read about one, however it was last maintained in 2012 or something like that
[12:24] <wafflejock> pandaadb, http://askubuntu.com/questions/707159/how-can-i-create-a-windows-10-boot-usb-from-ubuntu
[12:27] <carbine> Hello. I am having issues with my wifi connection, and I believe it has to do with DNS. Ubuntu 16.10, ath9k, ar9565.
[12:27] <carbine> DHCP keeps setting the nameserver in resolv.conf to 127.0.1.1
[12:27] <carbine> Even though I'm specifying which nameservers to use in NetworkManager.
[12:28] <pandaadb> wafflejock, thanks
[12:29] <wafflejock> pandaadb, no problem
[12:29] <Ben64> carbine: that's because of dnsmasq most likely, nothing to worry about
[12:29] <carbine> Ben64: But it is causing connection issues.
[12:29] <Ben64> doubt it
[12:29] <carbine> Then something is.
[12:30] <Ben64> can you explain the issue
[12:30] <carbine> Yesterday I thought it was the ath9k drivers.
[12:30] <carbine> Regardless of which path I go down, I still can't use this laptop at work lol.
[12:32] <Ben64> carbine: try "nmcli device show | grep DNS"
[12:36] <carbine> Returns 192.168.0.13, 192.168.0.14, 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4
[12:36] <carbine> So obviously not a DNS issue...
[12:36] <younder> when did nmcli become pa standard package?
[12:37] <carbine> Though /etc/resolv.conf is showing 127.0.1.1
[12:38] <squig> so I am having a problem settings options on the nfs-kernel-server
[12:38] <squig> I want to remove the RPCMOUNTDOPT --manage-gids
[12:39] <squig> I havecommented out that line in /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server
[12:39] <carbine> Would it be bad to write-protect resolv.conf and set my settings in there?
[12:39] <Ben64> carbine: yes
[12:39] <squig> but the after a restart the setting returns
[12:39] <carbine> Lol glad I asked. :D
[12:39] <Ben64> carbine: you already know it's not dns, why keep going down that path
[12:39] <carbine> Ben64: I'm running out of solutions, sadly.
[12:40] <Ben64> just go one step at a time
[12:40] <boreeas_> Hey, I am observing strange behavior with dd. Using 'dd if=/dev/urandom of=somefile bs=64M count=1' reliably only writes 32MiB. Can someone explain that behavior to me?
[12:40] <wafflejock> boreeas_, did you sync afterwards?
[12:41] <wafflejock> boreeas_, dd will have things in buffers/cache sometimes honestly not sure why it is sometimes and not other though, sync will flush the buffers
[12:41] <boreeas_> wafflejock: No, I didn't. But I'm going by dd's own output here ("33554431 bytes (34 MB, 32 MiB) copied, 1,49784 s, 22,4 MB/s")
[12:41] <squig> where else might service nfs-kernel-server be reading from?
[12:41] <wafflejock> boreeas_, yeah it will say that while stuff is still in cache
[12:41] <carbine> The things I have done so far, in both 16.04 and 16.10 are: Disable power management, disable hwcrpyt, turned of IPv6, set my own DNS servers, blacklisted the following: ath3k, acer_wmi
[12:42] <wafflejock> boreeas_, when you run sync can watch the buffers flush out http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/48235/can-i-watch-the-progress-of-a-sync-operation
[12:42] <Ben64> carbine: i mean just test networking stuff, it's weird to disable ipv6
[12:42] <Ben64> ping gateway, ping google, etc
[12:43] <carbine> I've been doing all of that. Pinging anything, including gateway is iffy at best. I get maybe 5-10 seconds of connectivity at a time while always showing as connected with full signal.
[12:44] <Ben64> carbine: sounds like hardware/driver then
[12:45] <carbine> Well, this laptop works fine at home. My issues are in my office. This office handles 30-40 devices, not including personal devices connected via wifi, all without issue.
[12:45] <boreeas_> wafflejock:  even after a sync file size is still 32M
[12:45] <Ben64> boreeas_: try bs=1M count=64
[12:46] <boreeas_> Ben64: yeah, that does it
[12:46] <Ben64> problem solved
[12:46] <boreeas_> Ben64: Thanks. But why does that happen?
[12:46] <Ben64> dunno, 64M works on my computer
[12:48] <Ben64> my computer stops at 625472380 bytes
[13:03] <rjk> help! i am getting this error on mounting external harddisk;  https://paste.ubuntu.com/23383465/
[13:03] <rjk> uable to access "My passport"
[13:07] <Doc-Saintly> Hello all. For some reason when I'm trying to install ubuntu, it keeps running 'grub-install --force "/dev/sda"' and failing, even though I told it to install Ubuntu to /dev/sdb
[13:08] <ANTI_microchip> hy
[13:08] <ANTI_microchip> help
[13:08] <Doc-Saintly> Hello all. For some reason when I'm trying to install ubuntu, it keeps running 'grub-install --force "/dev/sda"' and failing, even though I told it to install Ubuntu to /dev/sdb
[13:09] <leavd> Doc-Saintly: did you manually put mbr to sdb?
[13:10] <Doc-Saintly> leavd: nope, I just had it "erase the drive and Install Ubuntu" there
[13:11] <Doc-Saintly> leavd: is this necessary to do for a fresh install? If so, how?
[13:13] <kicksled> ANTI_microchip: please do not spam me on msg
[13:13] <ameurux> hello
[13:14] <ameurux> anyone tried install samba on 16.10?
[13:14] <kicksled> Doc-Saintly: just remembered someone solved that same issue with answering no to "automatically install to MBR of first hard drive" under installation and manually set it to sdb.
[13:15] <kicksled> ameurux: desktop or server?
[13:15] <ameurux> both
[13:15] <ameurux> or any
[13:15] <Doc-Saintly> kicksled: looking at the partition table it created, it doesn't seem to have made a boot partition by default.
[13:15] <ameurux> cause I got an error
[13:16] <Timmy_L> So.... Is downloading the binary amdgpu-pro from the amd site still the way to go for installing it? Shouldn't it be in a repo or PPA by now? (on xubuntu but couldn't find their irc)
[13:16] <kicksled> what error?
[13:16] <kicksled> ameurux:
[13:16] <vfw> ameurux: So what is the error?
[13:16] <Doc-Saintly> am I mistaken, or shouldn't a "use the whole disk" installation of Ubuntu just work?
[13:16] <ameurux> it hands here
[13:16] <ameurux> Setting up samba (2:4.4.5+dfsg-2ubuntu5) ...
[13:16] <ameurux> Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/nmbd.service → /lib/systemd/system/nmbd.service.
[13:16] <ameurux> Failed to preset unit: Unit file /etc/systemd/system/samba-ad-dc.service is masked.
[13:16] <ameurux> Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/smbd.service → /lib/systemd/system/smbd.service.
[13:16] <vfw> !paste | ameurux
[13:17] <vfw> ameurux: So is your samba share working? Or not?
[13:18] <vfw> ameurux: Have you tried it?
[13:18] <ameurux> not sure
[13:18] <ameurux> Failed to start Samba NMB Daemon.
[13:18] <alterm> hi
[13:18] <ameurux> is one error
[13:20] <ameurux> now everytime I try to install something dpkg will hand again at samba package
[13:21] <vfw> ameurux: dpkg-reconfigure samba
[13:21] <vfw> ameurux: apt-get -f install
[13:22] <ameurux> it gives me this   /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: samba is broken or not fully installed.
[13:22] <ameurux> I think samba is broken on 16.10
[13:23] <ameurux> need to report a bug maybe
[13:23] <vfw> ameurux: apt-get -f install
[13:26] <ameurux> same
[13:26] <ameurux> sudo apt-get -f install
[13:26] <ameurux> Reading package lists... Done
[13:26] <ameurux> Building dependency tree
[13:26] <ameurux> Reading state information... Done
[13:26] <ameurux> The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
[13:27] <vfw> !paste | ameurux
[13:31] <ameurux> Failed to preset unit: Unit file /etc/systemd/system/samba-ad-dc.service is masked.
[13:32] <vfw> ameurux: dpkg-reconfigure samba
[13:32] <ameurux> I did, same error
[13:32] <ameurux> do u have 16.10?
[13:32] <vfw> ameurux: apt-get -f install
[13:32] <vfw> ameurux: For ubuntu, I use LTS
[13:33] <ameurux> yeah, thats what I ment, only on 16.10 this is a bug
[13:33] <ameurux> I dont have that error on 16.04
[13:34] <vfw> ameurux: Can you paste results of "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[13:34] <vfw> please...
[13:34] <ameurux> I did
[13:34] <vfw> ameurux: Then send us the URL
[13:35] <ameurux> sudo apt-get -f install
[13:35] <ameurux> Reading package lists... Done
[13:35] <ameurux> Building dependency tree
[13:35] <ameurux> Reading state information... Done
[13:35] <ameurux> The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
[13:35] <ameurux>   libv8-3.14.5
[13:36] <ameurux> Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.24-3ubuntu1) ...
[13:36] <ameurux> Errors were encountered while processing:
[13:36] <ameurux>  samba
[13:36] <ameurux> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[13:36] <ameurux> how to paste multi lines?
[13:36] <ameurux> hello
[13:36] <mcphail> ameurux: please stop spamming the channel. Scroll up - you have been given a link about how to paste gracefully
[13:37] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1610361
[13:38] <ameurux> ty,
[13:38] <OerHeks> check for  /etc/samba/smb.conf, maybe it is not there.
[13:38] <ameurux> sry for my noob act
[13:39] <mcphail> ameurux: no worries. We've all made the same mistake ;)
[13:39] <ameurux> ty
[13:39] <OerHeks> systemctl status samba-ad-dc
[13:39] <ameurux> I will try to create smb.conf manualy
[13:41] <ameurux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23383632/
[13:41] <vfw> ameurux:
[13:41] <vfw> sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[13:42] <ameurux> just checked, smb.conf  exist
[13:43] <vfw> ameurux: sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:43] <ameurux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23383642/
[13:44] <kicksled> ameurux: do sudo apt-get autoremove as vfw mentioned
[13:45] <ameurux> just a min
[13:46] <neldogz> Is there a way to stop the windows from shuffling when doing a window spread?
[13:47] <ameurux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23383648/
[13:47] <ameurux> after apt-get autoremove
[13:48] <vfw> ameurux: sudo dpkg-reconfigure samba
[13:48] <ameurux> its a bug I guess
[13:48] <vfw> ameurux: sudo apt-get remove samba && sudo apt-get update
[13:49] <ameurux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23383654/
[13:49] <ameurux> I can remove samba
[13:49] <ameurux> but I can't use it
[13:49] <vfw> sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[13:50] <vfw> ameurux:   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[13:50] <ameurux> ok
[13:50] <ameurux> as u like
[13:51] <ubmt> motherfuckers
[13:51] <vfw> ameurux: Any errors?  (If so, use pastebin and send URL)
[13:51] <vfw> ubmt: Come back when you have something useful to say.
[13:51] <bumspell> join #linuxmint
[13:52] <ameurux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23383664/
[13:52] <ameurux> same thing
[13:52] <vfw> bumspell: Preface that with /
[13:52] <kicksled> could apt purge samba be worth trying?
[13:52] <ameurux> I did
[13:53] <vfw> ameurux: sudo apt-get purge samba
[13:53] <ameurux> same error when I re-installing
[13:53] <vfw> sudo apt purge samba && sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[13:54] <ameurux> after purge   http://paste.ubuntu.com/23383676/
[13:55] <ameurux> anyone can test on virtual machine?
[13:55] <vfw> sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[13:56] <Vuurdraak_> hi everybody, after a PC shop told me they thought linux/ubuntu update servers might somehow be less trust worthy then say a close sourced ms update server, I was wondering how do I know that the update server I'm using has the same content as the main canonical update server ? are patch/update servers somehow tested and validated or how does this work ? is there a chain of trust ?
[13:57] <BluesKaj> Vuurdraak_:  pc shop is uninformed , unless they're thinking of ppas
[13:58] <Vuurdraak_> well yeh i kind of disagreed with them, i know there are signing keys, but does for instance canonical test if the data is the same ?
[13:59] <vfw> Naw... they don't test anything ......
[13:59] <kicksled> :p
[13:59] <ameurux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23383696/
[14:00] <vfw> sorry, couldn't resist
[14:00] <kicksled> ameurux: sudo apt autoremove now and then try to install samba again
[14:00] <Vuurdraak_> it's based more on trust worthyness of the organization hosting patches, or maybe rather if i trust them, like for instance im using the dutch university of twente, im dutch
[14:00] <ameurux> ok
[14:00] <vfw> ameurux: sudo apt-get autoremove
[14:00] <kicksled> official repos are safe. ppas are as trustworthy as the people who put things up
[14:01] <Vuurdraak_> okay
[14:01] <ameurux> same errors
[14:01] <ameurux> after trying to reinstall
[14:02] <ameurux> it's a bug
[14:02] <ameurux> samba is broken on 16.10
[14:02] <vfw> ameurux: did you do autoremove?
[14:02] <ameurux> yes
[14:02] <ameurux> I did
[14:03] <vfw> sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[14:03] <ameurux> same result
[14:03] <ameurux> I guess I have to report a bug
[14:03] <kicksled> Vuurdraak_: good read on repositories: http://bit.ly/2ffyqPi
[14:03] <Vuurdraak_> thanks
[14:03] <ameurux> sad
[14:04] <vfw> ameurux: Your pacage management system is broken.  You need to fix it.
[14:04] <Vuurdraak_> yeh i guess i searched for the wrong words, "patch servers" gives a lot of other stuff :)
[14:04] <ameurux> what?
[14:04] <ameurux> do a test on a virtual machine,
[14:04] <ameurux> the same result
[14:05] <vfw> ameurux: You read the bug report. Right?
[14:05] <ameurux> every single packe I installed, works fine, except samba
[14:05] <ameurux> try to do a test with 16.10 on any virtualbox machine
[14:06] <ameurux> Im running on real machine
[14:07] <Guest2685> hi guys!
[14:07] <ameurux> Im noob in chat, but I've been using Linux since 1998
[14:07] <lakitu> i had compatibility issues, it seemed, in linux mint. i switched off mint to ubuntu so that gives me the idea to try them now, in ubuntu
[14:07] <ameurux> use Red Hat, Suse, Kannopix, old shit
[14:08] <lakitu> what is knoppix again?
[14:08] <lakitu> i just read the other day a blurb on it, but i forget
[14:08] <ameurux> its an old live cd we use to play with
[14:09] <lakitu> is Arch a good idea for your mainframe / main offline comp
[14:09] <lakitu> - ?
 u have a phone I can call you?
[14:09] <vfw> lakitu: Yes
[14:09] <lakitu> i've used linux for about 6-8 years like i say
[14:10] <lakitu> vfw - pro/con for that?
[14:12] <lakitu> oops wrong wrong
[14:12] <lakitu> wrong room
[14:13] <terrible> im using ubuntu 16 xenial how can i change the splash screen the easy way?
[14:14] <ameurux> see u guys, gonna play some Dota 2
[14:16] <hemant__> hello
[14:17] <whothehellami> hi, I have a thinkpad t450s with two batteries and I can only see the battery life time from the first battery. Is it possible that ubuntu (16.04) estimates and displays the hole battery lifetime?
[14:18] <Vuurdraak_> whothehellami,  no idea, but i would try to drain one bat and see what the dial says, if there is no other smarter solution
[14:19] <hemant__> why am i getting connection reset by peer?
[14:20] <pa> hi
[14:20] <pa> how can i install private qt5 headers in 16.04?
[14:21] <mnemo> Hello guys. What type of ubuntu you recommend on Asus Eee PC 1005HA 2gb Ram ?
[14:22] <hateball> mnemo: as minimal as you can go, Lubuntu probably
[14:22] <smoulec> I am planning to install Ubuntu on a touch screen laptop. Unity or Gnome? What's your opinion?
[14:23] <kicksled_> I think unity would be better for touch, but thats just my opinion
[14:24] <mcphail> smoulec: try them both and see what you like best
[14:25] <smoulec> @mcpfail Agreed, I am trying to see if there is a clear fav in the community
[14:26] <Timmy_L> So.... Is downloading the binary amdgpu-pro from the amd site still the way to go for installing it? Shouldn't it be in a repo or PPA by now? (on xubuntu but couldn't find their irc)
[14:26] <Vuurdraak_> smoulec, i have no opinion on it, because my screen is dirty enough without touching it :)
[14:27] <hateball> Timmy_L: have you checked oibaf ppa? that's the only amd ppa I know of, but perhaps it has it
[14:28] <Timmy_L> I haven't, so thanks for the tip. Will check it out!
[14:28] <smoulec> Vuurdraak: I hear you... I am going touchscreen b/c my keyboard is gross!
[14:29] <Vuurdraak_> lol
[14:29] <smoulec> Doesn't sound like there is a fav. I will try both on live USBs and go from there
[14:29] <Vuurdraak_> good luck may the best one win
[14:30] <Timmy_L> The oibaf PPA seems to only have amdgpu, and not amdgpu-pro...
[14:30] <smoulec> ccccccevihteurfglfgliudtinuknbbbrvtnuhnnlnck
[14:31] <smoulec> Oops! Sorry, hit my yubikey!
[14:31] <Vuurdraak_> lol
[14:35] <rocket__> i wonder that anybody uses windows when there is linux
[14:35] <rocket__> now all works great
[14:35] <rocket__> i really like it, i also use osx like that too but ubuntu is even better
[14:35] <Vuurdraak_> <3
[14:36] <Vuurdraak_> since i got 60 good games in ubuntu, i sort of stopped caring about windows
[14:36] <rocket__> well i will try to manage gpu pass
[14:36] <rocket__> and use some vm
[14:38] <logikos> boss ordered me a new laptop that shipped with windows .. he wants some security junk in windows so that if someone steals the laptop it boots to windows automaticly and phones home kinda thing.  I want to install and use linux so i used gparted to shrink windows partition, and add 3 new partitions .. one for /, /home, and swap ..
[14:38] <conmanworknor> what games?
[14:38] <logikos> during install .. to get it to use the partitions i want i have to chose 'something else' instead of 'install ubuntu alongside windows'
[14:39] <logikos> but will windows still be an option in grub?
[14:39] <rocket__> i dont like windows
[14:39] <rocket__> plus i dont trust it
[14:39] <logikos> me neither
[14:39] <conmanworknor> yeah windows is still an option in grub, as long as you generate grubconfig properly
[14:39] <Vuurdraak_> conmanworknor, https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197963002890/games/?tab=all
[14:39] <conmanworknor> nice
[14:40] <logikos> how do i ensure to 'generate grubconfig properly'
[14:40] <Vuurdraak_> logikos, if you install ubuntu along  sode windows , you should be able to boot both
[14:40] <Vuurdraak_> side*
[14:40] <Vuurdraak_> grub will auto detect the windows osses and ad them
[14:40] <logikos> is that part of the install process? .. i've installed linux many times but i always remove all other parititons on the disk first .. i havent done dual boot in over 10 years
[14:41] <de-facto> I always get those really annoying kernel freezes with dataloss when i use nvidia 340 on xenial. Now it seems i will have to throw my nvidia card in the trash bin and ordered an 2nd gen Radeon GCN R7 360, to be able to have a working computer with xenial and no data loss. Does someone here know if that works stable with amdgpu?
[14:41] <Vuurdraak_> always first install windows
[14:41] <Vuurdraak_> then linux alongside it
[14:41] <conmanworknor> lol i haven't touched my windows partition in like a year but it's still there
[14:41] <logikos> Vuurdraak_, but i chose the 'something else' option so i can select my partitions .. will windows still be an option so long as i do not overwrite its partition?
[14:41] <smoulec> rocket: why do you want to partition your disk rather than letting Ubuntu do it (install alongside Windows)?
[14:41] <Vuurdraak_> logikos, yes ur okay as long as u dont over write ur win partition
[14:42] <Vuurdraak_> grub will detect the win partition
[14:42] <rocket__> smoulec, i like vm's
[14:42] <conmanworknor> >graphical installer .... i should really switch to #arch
[14:42] <rocket__> just interested if i get it running smoulec
[14:42] <smoulec> fair enough!
[14:42] <Vuurdraak_> if it fails some how you could always repair with a windows resque disk to get win back, as long as that partition is there
[14:43] <rocket__> smoulec, running in a vm is also running in a sandbox
[14:43] <logikos> Vuurdraak_, for 'Device for boot loader installation' do i chose the entire disk /dev/sda or the partition where i am mounting / which is /dev/sda5  .. /dev/sda1 says it has the windows boot manager on it
[14:44] <logikos> or does it not mater if i chose /dev/sda or /dev/sda5 for that
[14:44] <Vuurdraak_> you want to point the boot loader to a drive
[14:44] <Vuurdraak_> so sda
[14:44] <logikos> i just dont want to jack up the windows partition or make it so they cant get back into windows .. i wont use windows but they require i keep it
[14:44] <logikos> ty
[14:44] <smoulec> logikos: you want /dev/sda
[14:44] <Vuurdraak_> taht way u can tell ur bios what drive to read the boot loader from
[14:45] <Vuurdraak_> if u have more then one drive
[14:45] <logikos> ty
[14:45] <smoulec> logikos: if you have security software on your Windows install, I would check that it won't get triggered if the partition table is changed
[14:46] <logikos> smoulec, he hasnt added the security software yet
[14:46] <logikos> but will once i'm done setting this up
[14:46] <logikos> good tip though.. didnt think of that
[14:47] <smoulec> I am thining that b/c you said the soft can boot the PC to Windows if stolen. souds like it requires WOL
[14:48] <Vuurdraak_> ah yeh intresting one
[14:49] <smoulec> logikos: if your company is fine with dual boot. I would say try a "install alongside Windows" and let Ubuntu resize / partition the drive
[14:49] <ceibal> hola
[14:49] <smoulec> bootloader on /dev/sda
[14:49] <ceibal> hola soy taty
[14:50] <Vuurdraak_> if there is already valuable data in windows though, not resizing windows might be a better option
[14:51] <smoulec> logikos: going outside the box: can you get a 2nd drive, clone your drive and test on the clone?
[14:52] <smoulec> I see what Vuurdraak is saying: resizing partitions can always get dicy, especially Windows
[14:53] <insy> how does one set his system so that i dont have to manual startup a series of programs,but that i goes automatic to specfic  locations onscreen
[14:55] <theGoat> i have updated one of my ubuntu boxes to 16.04.  now i can't mount dmg files from my mac.  all i see in the kernel logs is lockd: cannot monitor <client>  not sure if i need to make changes on one of the sides.  client side is OS X 10.11
[14:58] <Vuurdraak_> insy, there are different ways to start up programs i guess, but i would not know if you can specify locations on the screen, i haven't made many of those my self but you got stuff like cron jobs and this start directory: "/home/<cool_user_name>/.config/autostart"
[14:59] <insy> true but what i want is let them start and then put some on desktop1 and some on desktop 2 on a fixed position
[15:01] <smoulec> insy: depending on your window manager, you may be able to use saved sessions (KDE does that I believe)
[15:01] <insy> im on ubuntu 16.04 unity
[15:02] <Vuurdraak_> theGoat, if you are sure that the problem started after you updated ubuntu, and with osx nothing changed, i would think the problem is on the ubuntu side, maybe fstab was changed ?
[15:03] <theGoat> it was working before the upgrade.  only thing that changed was the upgrade to ubuntu 16.04 which is the fileserver running nfs
[15:07] <smoulec> insy: you can try http://www.webupd8.org/2016/03/how-to-save-and-restore-unity-session.html
[15:08] <juanonymous> hey i tried downloading a game that is for windows so i installed wine on the system, problem is the game is on the left side of the screen. anyone here knows how to fix this problem or make this full screen?
[15:08] <Vuurdraak_> theGoat, can you find all the drives with:  sudo blkid
[15:09] <theGoat> yes, and i am able to browse the files with my client, etc, but trying to mount a volume like an iso or something like across nfs no longer works
[15:09] <Vuurdraak_> is there not a wine channel ;) ?
[15:09] <juanonymous> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2016-10-26_23_02_07-546Axn6P.png
[15:09] <Pici> Vuurdraak_: its #winehq
[15:10] <Vuurdraak_> there u go juanonymous
[15:10] <Pici> !wine | juanonymous also...
[15:11] <Vuurdraak_> theGoat, are you trying to mount them with their uuid ?
[15:11] <GodMode> hello
[15:11] <Vuurdraak_> or just iso files on a file system ?
[15:12] <GodMode> anyone need help i'm giving free help
[15:12] <theGoat> no: Vuurdraak_: here is the entry from the automounter on my mac: software   -fstype=nfs,soft,intr,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,noatime,timeo=900,retrans=3,proto=tcp 192.168.101.150:/dumping_ground/software
[15:13] <smoulec> juanonymous: try Alt-Enter after starting the game / in the game menu, see if you can change the screen resolution (sounds like that could be it based on your screenshot)
[15:13] <logikos> Vuurdraak_, smoulec .. strange thing .. i installed xubuntu selecting my partitions manually .. the installation finished .. but on reboot it booted to windows .. and holding shift doesnt seem to help.. my fear was it would go to ubuntu and i wouldnt be able to get to windows .. not i dont see how to get to ubuntu
[15:13] <logikos> grub most not have taken over as the boot manager?
[15:13] <logikos> if i hit F12 i git the boot options as seen by the bios .. and it lists only the windows boot manager
[15:13] <Vuurdraak_> theGoat, okay yeh sorry im at a loss, maybe there is somebody who knows more about then me available
[15:13] <smoulec> logikos: what was your target to install grub?
[15:13] <ajm73> hi
[15:14] <theGoat> no problem..tks for the help anyways
[15:14] <logikos> it was /dev/sda
[15:14] <logikos> with /dev/sda1 being windows and /dev/sda5 being mount point / for linux
[15:14] <logikos> at least i think it was 5...
[15:14] <logikos> maybe 3
[15:14] <logikos> but i think 5
[15:14] <Vuurdraak_> logikos, the pc has only one drive ?
[15:15] <logikos> yes with many partitions
[15:15] <Vuurdraak_> yeh i guess grub somehow didn't get installed
[15:15] <smoulec> logikos: what version of Windows do you have? do you use secure boot (check BIOS)?
[15:16] <logikos> smoulec, ubuntu asked me to enter a password ti disable secure boot and so i did during the install
[15:17] <logikos> i've never been prompted for the password though
[15:17] <logikos> in the bios so long as i have UEFI mode selected secure boot is not chnageable
[15:17] <smoulec> ccccccevihtejjcgbnhrtljjjurgukjetlujtkuilikb
[15:17] <smoulec> ccccccevihteunnulcngihhbltggltbftgkkvcktvhkg
[15:17] <smoulec> DAMN Yubikey!!!! NEVER GET A NEO /rant over!
[15:18] <smoulec> logikos: can you check your bios boot options yourself and see if it's uefi / secureboot
[15:18] <danielthebague> whats the latest stable kernel release for 16.04
[15:18] <smoulec> I tend to do disable it myself when I want to dual boot
[15:19] <logikos> yes it is uefi with secure boot enabled
[15:19] <logikos> if i change it to legacy then i cant boot into windows
[15:19] <smoulec> that could be your problem: you don't want secureboot
[15:19] <Southern_Gentlem> ok how do i update a ubuntu box
[15:20] <RockRolla> hello
[15:20] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, the current kernel that I'm using is: Linux version 4.4.0-45-generic (buildd@lcy01-08) (gcc version 4.8.4 (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.3) ) #66~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 19 15:05:38 UTC 2016
[15:20] <RockRolla> hello man
[15:20] <kicksled> 4.4.0-45 is the latest I think
[15:21] <Vuurdraak_> it should be the same for 16.04
[15:21] <logikos> smoulec, I see secure boot: enabled in the bios but it isnt changeable
[15:21] <kicksled> for 16.04
[15:21] <RockRolla> how can enable wpa
[15:21] <logikos> like i said ubuntu had me set a password specificly for secure boot
[15:21] <kicksled> and 4.8.0-26 for 16.10
[15:21] <logikos> but i'm unsure what to do with it
[15:21] <Vuurdraak_> logikos, weird that it doesn't ask for the password
[15:22] <smoulec> logikos: I would disable secureboot in the bios, then reboot to make sure Windows 10 works (assuming Win10)
[15:22] <logikos> hmm by setting a bios password i can now change other things that i couldnt before
[15:22] <smoulec> if htat works, you will most likely have to re-install ubuntu
[15:23] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, i have kernel 4.4.0-45 install but when i get to login screen the resolution of screen is big and i can not type in password , then it freezes and i have to restart the computer via reset button
[15:23] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, maybe you have a gpu driver problem ?
[15:23] <smoulec> you can probably fix grub but a new install may be faster
[15:23] <kicksled> logikos: turn of fast boot also in windows
[15:23] <kicksled> logikos: http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6320-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-8-a.html
[15:23] <logikos> disable it in windows???
[15:23] <debkad> hello, when my system crash, a small window appear and tell me to send report, when accepting, another error appear ( something like it can't send the report )
[15:24] <EriC^^> logikos: what's the problem?
[15:24] <smoulec> logikos: disable fastboot in bios if present
[15:24] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, first try to read the log files though like /var/log/Xorg.failsafe.log etc
[15:24] <kicksled> logikos: you can also try to re-register grub with your firmware's nvram by opening a administrator command prompt in windows and the following command "bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi" - source http://askubuntu.com/questions/371559/grub-not-showing-on-startup-for-windows-8-1-ubuntu-13-10-dual-boot
[15:25] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, running an nvidia gt610 on the previous kernel i ubunut works fine. i thought the newer kernel would use the installed driver that i use previously. when i boot into revoery mode it freezes aswell
[15:25] <logikos> EriC^^, new win10 laptop .. company requires i keep win10 on it but is letting me install ubuntu with dual boot so long as it boots to windows by default .. i installed ubuntu but cant figure out how to boot to it
[15:25] <logikos> lots more details but dont want to write a story .. any specific questions?
[15:25] <EriC^^> logikos: which laptop model?
[15:25] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, how can i read the log files when i can not log in
[15:26] <logikos> Acer Aspire V 155 Nitro
[15:26] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, normaly new gpu driver modules are build yes, but maybe something went accidently wrong ?
[15:26] <logikos> V 15 not 155
[15:26] <EriC^^> logikos: try to "trust" the efi file in the bios
[15:26] <Vuurdraak_> you can not drop to a command prompt ?
[15:26] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, nope can not drop to command prompt
[15:26] <logikos> EriC^^, i'll look for that option .. dont recall seeing it..
[15:27] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, can you boot from a resque disk cd/dvd/usb ?
[15:27] <danielthebague> yes
[15:27] <Vuurdraak_> try to look from there in the logfiles
[15:27] <Vuurdraak_> see what is going on
[15:27] <danielthebague> ok
[15:27] <EriC^^> logikos: it might come up after setting the admin password
[15:28] <logikos> EriC^^, there are 3 password in the bios .. 'supervisor', 'user', and 'HDD'
[15:29] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, im forgetting something, normaly you can boot also with an older kernel
[15:29] <logikos> i set the supervisor password which did enable many more options
[15:29] <EriC^^> logikos: try supervisor
[15:29] <smoulec> logikos: supervisor should do
[15:29] <logikos> did not make anymore visible but did make them changable
[15:29] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, yes i am on older kernel now
[15:29] <logikos> looking for something that says 'trust' now...
[15:29] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, ah so you should be able to look in the log files then ?
[15:29] <EriC^^> logikos: try to enable/disable secureboot
[15:30] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, sorry i thought you could not get to them
[15:30] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, how do you decipher which log file srelate to which kernel
[15:30] <logikos> EriC^^, do i care about TPM (TCM) state ? not sure what that is
[15:30] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:30] <smoulec> logikos: I wouldn't rely on ubuntu to disable. I would do it in the bios now that you can. disable secureboot and fastboot
[15:30] <EriC^^> i think that is a security feature
[15:30] <logikos> TPM(TCM) is currently enabled with an option to clear...
[15:31] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, i just look in /var/log/
[15:31] <EriC^^> dont clear
[15:31] <smoulec> logikos: TPM is a security chip. I would leave that alone.
[15:31] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, i dont see many different log files in there
[15:31] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, i dont know what you see though
[15:31] <EriC^^> logikos: can you boot a live usb?
[15:31] <smoulec> logikos: that won't have any effect on installing an OS
[15:31] <logikos> smoulec, i did disable secureboot .. had no affect.. perhaps i have to reinstall ubuntu now that i've done so .. 'fastboot' though an option in most bios's i've seen .. isnt an option that i can see here
[15:31] <logikos> EriC^^, yes
[15:31] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, try look in kern.log
[15:32] <logikos> EriC^^, so long as i didnt make the usb by burning the iso to the usb .. i had to folow some special UEFI instructions .. which just unziped a .iso to it
[15:32] <smoulec> logikos: probably have to re-install: secureboot stopped grub from installing
[15:32] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, and Xorg.0.log or Xorg.log
[15:32] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, scan for any display errors
[15:32] <logikos> alright, will try reinstall
[15:32] <EriC^^> logikos: never heard of that
[15:33] <EriC^^> no need to reinstall
[15:33] <EriC^^> it's not related
[15:33] <logikos> EriC^^, other options?
[15:33] <EriC^^> some bios are a more difficult than others with the uefi stuff
[15:33] <EriC^^> logikos: boot the live usb in uefi mode for a bit to check how stuff are
[15:34] <logikos> its a clean install .. so to reinstall isnt a big deal .. but i'll try to get back to the live usb
[15:34] <EriC^^> there are a ton of workarounds you can do, not sure if you want them as it's a work laptop
[15:34] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, i dont know which kernel is referenced by which log file, also i have three different versions of ubuntu installed
[15:34] <smoulec> logikos: if you don't want to re-install, you can try to repair the boot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[15:34] <EriC^^> logikos: it's a matter of reinstall isn't related
[15:34] <EriC^^> the bios can't stop ubuntu from adding anything if secureboot is set, and ubuntu uses now the same efi image for both secureboot and non
[15:35] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, i don't know how many times you booted, but if you booted from the latest kernel now 1 time to the working older kernel, get the 2nd newest logfile by time
[15:36] <smoulec> Eric^^, have you tried dual-booting Windows/Ubuntu with secure boot enabled? I know ubuntu supports it now but never tried both at the same tine
[15:36] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, the kernel log and current kernel log should be the newest files in theory
[15:36] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, previous kernel log*
[15:36] <EriC^^> smoulec: yeah it works fine
[15:37] <vahid> hi all
[15:37] <bazfoobar> Hi, I'm going to be installing Ubuntu 16 to a computer that (for the moment) has no internet connection. I have a mobile plan with unlimited data, however. Is USB tethering with Android going to function out-of-the-box or am I going to run into problems?
[15:37] <bazfoobar> I've been searching Google and haven't really had much luck so far.
[15:37] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_,  (EE) AIGLX error: failed to open /usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/dri/fglrx
[15:37] <danielthebague> _dri.so, error[/usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared obj
[15:37] <danielthebague> ect file: No such file or directory]
[15:38] <vahid> how invet back box chanel
[15:38] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, looks like some driver problem
[15:39] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, is it posible to rename your X11/xorg.conf and use a default one ?
[15:39] <smoulec> Eric^^: you're right, I stand corrected. Secureboot on dual boot has been fixed after 12.04...
[15:39] <Vuurdraak_> and back up your current xorg.conf
[15:39] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, how can i reinstall driver if i can not get to the command prompt in recovery mode, due to it freezing
[15:39] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, see if you can start on a default driver
[15:39] <tgm4883> bazfoobar: I believe I've done that before with no issues
[15:39] <smoulec> logikos: I would still then take a shot at repairing the boot (see my link) Something happened when grub tried to install
[15:40] <pepperm1nt> Shit there's a ton of people here, didnt know what hexchat was, was always uninstalling it, might be useful someday ! :)
[15:40] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, you can get to the menu to chose to run in failsafe mode ?
[15:40] <bazfoobar> Hmm, okay, thanks @tgm4883. I hope you're right.
[15:40] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague,  or not even to there ?
[15:41] <tgm4883> bazfoobar: unfortunatly I don't have a cable to check right now
[15:41] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, in grub menu i choose recovery mode
[15:41] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, and then after that it's broken already ?
[15:42] <danielthebague> yeah the recovery mode menu is frozen
[15:42] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, yeah the recovery mode menu is frozen
[15:42] <bazfoobar> tgm4883: Well, I suppose that if I do have any problems then at least I can use my phone to try to get some help. Thanks anyway.
[15:42] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, okay yeh, try to start up with a back up xorg.conf
[15:42] <bazfoobar> I wasn't expecting it to work without having to install additional software.
[15:42] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague,  so that you start it basicly up in safemode
[15:43] <tgm4883> bazfoobar: you could also just test it in the live environment before making any changes
[15:43] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, revert to the nouvaou driver or something
[15:44] <bazfoobar> My Windows install is dead (so I was just going to wipe it) and I need to get my computer working as I am behind on assignments but have no recovery discs etc. so figured... Linux.
[15:44] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, there should be a: xorg.conf.failsafe   in: etc/X11/
[15:44] <wafflejock> bazfoobar, can't you put the phone into hotspot mode?
[15:44] <danielthebague> so mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak and reboot so it recreates another xorg.conf?
[15:44] <bazfoobar> Hmm, possibly, I'll have a look.
[15:44] <bazfoobar> It's a fairly old Android phone though.
[15:44] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, backup xorg.conf to xorg.conf.mybackup and then copy xorg.conf.failsage to xorg.conf
[15:44] <wafflejock> bazfoobar, I use the wireless on mine occasionally if I have no better connection think android 4. something they added the hotspot to the cell/wireless options but it's buried
[15:45] <Vuurdraak_> xorg.conf.failsafe*
[15:45] <wafflejock> bazfoobar, can use apps to do it too though think foxfi was the one I used before
[15:45] <bazfoobar> I believe I'm on 4.2.2
[15:45] <insy> @vuurdraak tnx for that hint on restoring the sesion , it worked
[15:45] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, even though this kernel has working graphics??
[15:45] <bazfoobar> Ah, yes, portable Wi-Fi hotspot!
[15:45] <bazfoobar> Awesome.
[15:45] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, if you backup your current xorg.conf, you can get it back later
[15:46] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, just to see if you can boot with the failsafe xorg.conf with the new kernel
[15:46] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, if that works you can try to re-install the driver
[15:47] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, in /etc/X11 i have xorg.conf.07292016 and fail safe
[15:47] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, only two files ?
[15:48] <bazfoobar> I still need to get a hold of a Windows recovery disc or something as I need access to VS for some of my work but at least I can do some of my work now. It'll be interesting using Ubuntu for the first time in like 10 years.
[15:48] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, plus other folders and files
[15:49] <wafflejock> bazfoobar, it's better now :)
[15:49] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, can you search for "xorg.conf" in those folders ?
[15:49] <bazfoobar> I remember fighting to get audio working for days.
[15:49] <bazfoobar> I can imagine!
[15:49] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, not just xorg.conf is it supposed to have numbers following it
[15:49] <mjayk> bazfoobar: 99% of things work out of the box now, no wifi drivers or weird usb problems :)
[15:49] <archer121> Hi, I have connected a reciept printer to my PC. Does it create a file under /dev directory? If so, how can I locate it?
[15:49] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, maybe because you have multiple ubuntu's idk, not with me it does
[15:50] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, the only xorg.conf on my pc are in the etc/X11/ folder, you have other sub folders with xorg.conf style files ?
[15:50] <bazfoobar> Has anyone had any luck running Visual Studio in a VM or via WINE or whatever, on Ubuntu?
[15:51] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, nope just the  two xorg.conf, failsafe and one with numbers following it
[15:52] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, okay then im assuming it's using the xorg.conf.07292016
[15:52] <danielthebague> so mv Xorg.conf with number following it to a backup
[15:52] <danielthebague> then copy xorg.conf.failsafe to xorg.conf
[15:52] <wafflejock> bazfoobar, haven't used VS in a while but I run windows VMs in virtual box on occasion when I need to test things out, don't think it'll be a problem so long as you have the RAM to give the virtual machine
[15:52] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, yeh try back that one up, and copy the failsafe one back in to it
[15:53] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, im wondering also what happens if there is also an extra xorg.conf maybe it will also try to read that
[15:53] <wafflejock> bazfoobar, doesn't look good for wine https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=892
[15:53] <bazfoobar> I have no idea how much RAM the machine I've been donated has but we shall see.
[15:53] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, i never encountered the numbnered version
[15:53] <bazfoobar> Thanks again!
[15:53] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, i only have the two xorg.conf fail safe and the other
[15:53] <wafflejock> bazfoobar, no problemo
[15:54] <bazfoobar> MS really need to release their developer tools for Linux and OS X but I doubt that'll ever happen barring things like VS Code.
[15:54] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, be prepaired to dive in to the console later on, to get your old xorg.conf back
[15:54] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, if failsafe also fails
[15:54] <danielthebague> ok
[15:56] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, ok here goes time for reboot
[15:56] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, good luck :D
[15:56] <malinus> Hello. So I've got the D31HW HUAWEI which is a "modem dongle". Connecting it gives the following message: http://paste.debian.net/890062/ . The kernel tained error comes AFTER disconnecting. Trying to run lsusb gives no results (it hangs?), and the process has to be killed.
[15:57] <malinus> I'm guessing it's a kernel driver issue?
[15:57] <malinus> But I'm not even sure what else I can do to test it.
[15:58] <wafflejock> malinus, looks like it detected as a storage device but the lsusb hanging is where the process got hung
[15:59] <wafflejock> er where the error is coming from saying "INFO: task lsusb:2217 blocked for more than 120 seconds."
[15:59] <malinus> wafflejock: it also detects it as a cdrom apperently :D
[15:59] <malinus> and a "uas" whatever that is
[15:59] <wafflejock> malinus, did the modem ever work or this is first time trying it?
[16:00] <malinus> First time trying it. I'm just wondering if I can try anything else
[16:00] <malinus> It might be a bug in their firmware or even hardware problem for all I know
[16:00] <bazfoobar> Hmm, apparently the download button for Ubuntu Desktop defaults to amd64 and not i386. Let's try this again. D:
[16:00] <AARC> Guys, I have done something very stupid and now i'm f***ed
[16:00] <NoImNotNineVolt> people still have i386 boxes?
[16:00] <yinflying2016> 。。。
[16:00] <kicksled> some modems have a storage device in them as well for drivers and software, could perhaps confuse your system? :p
[16:01] <AARC> I messed around with the partitions through fdisk and now it won't boot anymore
[16:01] <AARC> stuck at initramfs
[16:01] <malinus> kicksled: yeah. But what's with the cdrom ?
[16:01] <kicksled> malinus: no idea tbh
[16:02] <skfax> After switching from unity to i3 for window management I've had audio issues. Suddenly I need to turn the volume up heavily to listen to some music in my browser, and way down to listen to audio from some other program. On a couple of occations I've forgotten to turn the volume down and it almost destroys my speakers and hearing. Is there a simple way to make audio when using i3wm work as with unity?
[16:02] <AARC> How can I possibly fix this? "ALERT! /dev/mapper/CAC_VG-CAC-LV does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"
[16:03] <yinflying2016> NoImNotNineVolt: There are some machines still stay in 2G or less internal memory
[16:04] <tgm4883> NoImNotNineVolt: not many, but they do exist
[16:04] <wafflejock> malinus, appears someone got this to work with a similar model but you'd have to adjust values and cross fingers that it may work or bork something ymmv http://askubuntu.com/questions/776497/huawei-modem-does-not-work-with-16-04 doesn't talk about the hanging lsusb though
[16:04] <bazfoobar> I'm not sure how old the machine I've been donated even is. What would you folks recommend as a lighter-weight alternative to Ubuntu, in case it doesn't meet the minimum required specifications? I'd rather take a load of discs with me, rather than have to travel all this way to burn more.
[16:05] <marcel_> hello
[16:05] <bazfoobar> Should have checked the specs beforehand but I'm an idiot.
[16:05] <tgm4883> bazfoobar: I'd also grab xubuntu and lubuntu if I were you
[16:05] <Vuurdraak_> skfax, normaly individual programs can only be controlled with their own volume in the soundsettings/application, alsamixer can only tune whole lines, i guess if unity doesn't have the same issues, better get back to unity ?
[16:05] <wafflejock> bazfoobar, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems can grab xubuntu and lubuntu too ^^
[16:06] <bazfoobar> Oh, yeah, I remember Xubuntu from way back but Lubuntu must be new. Thanks.
[16:06] <malinus> wafflejock: cheers that might prove helpful. I however think I've figured it out - you need to plug an micro-sd card into it. Then it started spitting out all the serial GSM ports etc.
[16:06] <malinus> go figure!
[16:06] <wafflejock> ah cool
[16:06] <kicksled> AARC: think it has to do with missing lvm support. see http://askubuntu.com/a/26936 on how to fix that
[16:07] <Vad3r> I wonder if anyone can help me. I am trying to use the network installer for 16.04 with an old system that runs XP. I downloaded the 32bit .ISO and created the usb boot with dd, rufus (windows) and it keeps failing and saying it's ran out of space?
[16:08] <Vad3r> I tried a sd card with an adapter and a usb and both do the same.
[16:08] <Vad3r> am I missing something?
[16:08] <AARC> kicksled: that solution is going to be a problem, this cloudathost stuff doesn't allow for inserting livecd's in anyway
[16:09] <AARC> cloudatcost
[16:09] <wafflejock> Vad3r, mmm what ran out of space? when actually doing the installation of ubuntu you mean?
[16:09] <kicksled> AARC: ah, yeah. hmm
[16:12] <yinflying2016> Vad3r: seems strange
[16:13] <wafflejock> Vad3r, what size is the drive you're running out of space on too https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/ch03s04.html
[16:14] <rocket__> is chromium and js off secure to browse
[16:14] <rocket__> or are there a lot of other leaks?
[16:14] <Vuurdraak_> I use chromium for banking and payments & firefox for all the other stuff
[16:14] <Zibbr> Hello! First time writing int this channel. And first tume on Ubuntu (on my laptop). I have som verry verry beginner questions. Do someone have a few minutes to point me in the right direction?
[16:14] <wafflejock> rocket__, leaks how?
[16:15] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, back that didn't make any difference changing the xorg.conf
[16:15] <wafflejock> rocket__, there is always IP communication and there are typically cookies for most things to work
[16:15] <Vad3r> wafflejock, 80gb ide hdd. it gets to 25% and says ran out of space then asks me to retry the download.
[16:15] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, wb
[16:15] <rocket__> wafflejock, just asking in general, usually if you turn off js you should be fine what side you ever browse on
[16:15] <rocket__> Vuurdraak_, why firefox for the rest?
[16:15] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, i was just wondering if it is posible to get a console by pressing ctrl-alt-f1 while the screen goes weird
[16:15] <rocket__> because of the cookies?
[16:16] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, think i will remove the new kernel and wait for a new kernel update
[16:16] <Vad3r> yinflying2016, I know.
[16:16] <jonte> sup
[16:16] <Vuurdraak_> rocket__, to keep banking and the rest sepperated by cache etc
[16:16] <Nordac> Hi everyone ! I'm in the process of making config scripts that set up my Ubuntu just right. I'd like to know if there is a way to modify the Unity launcher shortcuts from command line or file. Is it possible ?
[16:16] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, i treid that no success
[16:16] <rocket__> ok
[16:16] <Vad3r> anyone have an idea what to try?
[16:16] <jonte> i am chatting through emacs
[16:16] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague,  yeh weird
[16:16] <rocket__> well i think chromium is more secure compared to ff
[16:16] <jonte> /
[16:16] <kicksled> Zibbr: shoot
[16:16] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, maybe you can try to reinstall the kernel ?
[16:16] <jonte> /
[16:16] <wafflejock> Vad3r, have you tried checking out the disk after it says it's full by going into the "try/live" mode
[16:17] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, the problem is will it upgrade the kernel to the same one i am having problems with
[16:17] <Vad3r> wafflejock, it's a network install.
[16:17] <wafflejock> Vad3r, see if the drive shows as having some weird partitioning or something going on, I would look in gparted but dunno otherwise
[16:17] <wafflejock> ah right :(
[16:17] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, i --reinstall the kernel already no success
[16:17] <rocket__> wafflejock, true but i dont think you could comprimise a system by that
[16:17] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, yeh it will, but maybe somehow what ever went wrong with building a driver module will go right this time ?
[16:18] <bazfoobar> Disable JS except for sites that need it, install something like uBlock Origin, activate click-to-run for extensions and optionally install something like HTTPS-Everywhere. Enable Do-Not-Track. Err.
[16:18] <Vad3r> I can't get past the "download installer compoments"
[16:18] <wafflejock> rocket__, well just saying there are traces and can more or less cover things depending on how paranoid you get :)
[16:18] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, not sure if it will do any good though
[16:18] <bazfoobar> There's a guide on the internet somewhere about all of this. I think it's by the EFF.
[16:18] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, so remove the new kernel and when it comes to upgrqading let it
[16:18] <Vad3r> 512MB RAM and 80gb hdd. HOW is it running out of space?!
[16:18] <Vuurdraak_> yeh
[16:18] <rocket__> wafflejock, ok :D, well i just dont want to catch some virus
[16:18] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, ok thaks for your help
[16:18] <danielthebague> thank you
[16:19] <rocket__> i have no feeling how good browsers on linux are but i guess they are as good as elsewhere
[16:19] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, it's weird how suddenly a new kernel would not work with the graphics anymore
[16:19] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, unless you did drastic changes what kernel tree you are using
[16:19] <bazfoobar> rocket__: Look up, I posted some tips.
[16:19] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, like i had to switch from the old 14.04 lts kernel tree to the new xenial one
[16:20] <wafflejock> rocket__, yeah pretty low chance of getting something that escapes the sandbox of the browser really, usually it's via some plugins like Java/Flash and the like that have more permissions to do things but JS as far as I know is pretty well locked inside V8 and the other engines and doesn't have much access insofar as hardware is concerned
[16:20] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, but even then i did not have a driver/gpu isue
[16:20] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, keyboard input and mouse didnt work either in recovery mode too
[16:20] <wafflejock> rocket__, maybe a bit more with local storage and things in newer JS but really not a lot that can be done from that context typically
[16:20] <bazfoobar> The disc image didn't burn successfully because an error occurred. Son of a... nice lady.
[16:20] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, maybe something wrong with that kernel
[16:20] <theGoat> Vuurdraak_:  i think my issue was something with systemd.  i reverted back to upstart, and i have no issues
[16:21] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, i did a online search and not seen anyone else with issues
[16:21] <Vuurdraak_> theGoat, wb okay great
[16:21] <theGoat> yeah...i am new to systemd, so i have no idea to troubleshoot
[16:21] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, the latest kernel works great here
[16:22] <rocket__> bazfoobar, i cant not agree on antivirus
[16:22] <wafflejock> theGoat, from what I've seen journalctl and systemctl are your friends
[16:22] <rocket__> -t
[16:22] <rocket__> most anti virus software is a mess
[16:22] <bazfoobar> Can anyone recommend a Windows program to burn my Ubuntu ISOs? The built-in Windows burner is not working.
[16:22] <theGoat> when i have some time i will convert back to systemd and see what i can find.  or i will build another 16.04 instance and play with that
[16:22] <wafflejock> bazfoobar, think I used imgburn
[16:22] <yinflying2016> bazfoobar: ultra-iso?
[16:23] <danielthebague>  Vuurdraak_what the latest kernel in repos?
[16:23] <bazfoobar> I'll try one of those.
[16:24] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague,  version 4.4.0-45
[16:24] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, the one i am having issues with .,dam
[16:25] <yinflying2016> bazfoobar: the system built in can't burn boot ISO...
[16:25] <bazfoobar> Ah okay.
[16:25] <bazfoobar> Well that explains that then.
[16:25] <bazfoobar> I was worried the optical drive was broken.
[16:25] <for{}> can u recommend some dark themes installable for ubuntu 16.10? on noobslab is nothing for now
[16:27] <mistawright> hi guys I need to have qt5.7 installed on my 14.04.5 lts server. how would one recommend I go about this?
[16:27] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, i'm wondering if there are any other errors in the kern.log if it is something else then just a graphics issue, as you are saying everything is freezing up, it might just be the pc crashing, it could still be graphics related rather then the kernel
[16:28] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, i havent yet the skills to decipher the kernel logs
[16:28] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, are you using a 3d card ?
[16:29] <for{}> i tried to install rstudio and a libgreamer was needed but unfortunately isnt installable
[16:30] <for{}> *libgstreamer
[16:30] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, it has 3d for blueray but not using it for that
[16:30] <for{}> i know it isnt installable because apt told me so
[16:30] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, you have a special driver installed or just the ubuntu default driver ?
[16:30] <for{}> there is none in repository
[16:31] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, the nvidia proprietry driver that is tested
[16:31] <for{}> and from what i read there are no competitors for rstudio
[16:32] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, sudo apt-get distupgrade not even showing the kernel i am having problems with.
[16:32] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, upgrade to 16.04 or 16.10 ?
[16:32] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, from memory i think i may have installed it myself a few months back
[16:34] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, already upgraded to 16.04
[16:34] <rocket__> btw whats the best audio player for linux, im using vlc now
[16:34] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, 16.10 has a different kernel
[16:34] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, 14.04 & 16.04 should have the same xenial kernal
[16:34] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, i normally stick with the LTS releases
[16:35] <Vuurdraak_> kernel*
[16:35] <CliveGerard> Help! I've logged on to UbuntuOne and tried to create a "derivative subpage" - It seems to create it but wont let me edit it!
[16:36] <Vuurdraak_> im searching for fglrx and i can not find it on my system, the error you gave before, it went of the chat with me now :'(
[16:36] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, anyway i must go thanks for your help again
[16:36] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, im wondering if that is the default driver from ubuntu that it is looking for
[16:36] <OerHeks> there is no fglrx anymore, with 16.04 came radeon & amdgpu
[16:36] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, im using nvidia too
[16:37] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, that may have been an old log of the on board graphics i had Radeon which is not supported in 16.04 so switched to nvida gt610
[16:37] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, should etc/X11 what if you tried to copy that xorg.conf.072etc file to xorg.conf
[16:38] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, i dont understand why it tried to load fglrx and that you do not have a default xorg.conf
[16:39] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, as you say you have the nvidia binairy driver installed on the old kernel
[16:39] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, i give up for now i will wait till teh next kernel is released then upgrade that way
[16:39] <Vuurdraak_> okay ;)
[16:39] <mistawright> anyone can make any suggestions on making this happen?
[16:39] <Vuurdraak_> danielthebague, at least the old kernel works :)
[16:39] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, case of it seems to be working so don;t try and break it lol
[16:39] <Vuurdraak_> :)
[16:39] <danielthebague> Vuurdraak_, thanks again for your help
[16:39] <Vuurdraak_> np
[16:41] <Vuurdraak_> rocket__, i use amarok & rhythmbox, i like amarok better for fast loading directories full of files to play that repeat, rhythmbox doesnt like to play nice there with its play lists
[16:42] <for{}> why isnt mplayer preinstalled?
[16:42] <gianni44> !list
[16:42] <for{}> mplayer pure, no mplayer gui/frontend
[16:42] <Vuurdraak_> for{}, maybe some copyright issues, non free software blabla
[16:43] <Jordan_U> for{}: That's a question for #ubuntu-offtopic. We can help you install mplayer here though.
[16:43] <for{}> i think mplayer still rocks
[16:46] <bazfoobar> My burn failed with imgburn too! I really hope it's not the optical drive.
[16:47] <wafflejock> bazfoobar, could be old optical media too those things can go bad in the sun or just sitting around long enough flash drives are ideal if you've got a tech shop around or some laying around
[16:48] <arooni> how to deal with this mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking.
[16:53] <Guest64510> прив всем
[16:53] <Guest64510> помогите наладить жестак
[16:53] <Vuurdraak_> !russian
[16:54] <Guest64510> как это делать и чем на линуксе
[16:54] <Guest64510>  <Vuurdraak_>  там забанили
[16:54] <Vuurdraak_> :)
[16:54] <arooni> trying to get ubuntu to mount a NFS enabled drive (on a asus rt-56n router).  on the router its /etc/exports line is /media/HardDriveArooni   192.168.1.0/24(rw,async,insecure,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check) ... and output from trying to connect on ubuntu is https://gist.github.com/3891e462785b9387b176f7473931d438 ... ideas?
[16:58] <Guest44331> guys, how do I install netctl? it isn't on the official repos and somehow I don't find anything for ubuntu, I've only find info for arch
[17:01] <Vuurdraak_> arooni, maybe the client and server do not support the right version ? "mount.nfs: mount(2): Protocol not supported"
[17:02] <arooni> well yes; but i think the last line of permission denied means that it found a protocol taht works
[17:02] <Vuurdraak_> arooni, maybe a firewall is blocking udp then or something ?
[17:03] <arooni> how can i check that
[17:03] <arooni> Vuurdraak_: in /etc/hosts.allow; i have rcpbind : 192.168.1.1 (ip of rotuer ) as well as 192.168.1.101 (laptops ip)
[17:04] <wafflejock> !info network-manager | Guest44331
[17:04] <Vuurdraak_> arooni, is uwf running ?
[17:05] <wafflejock> Guest44331, pretty sure this does the same thing, what are you looking for from netctl?
[17:05] <arooni> Vuurdraak_: ps -lA | ack ufw ==> yielded nothing
[17:05] <Guest44331> I'm not interested in using network-manager because it seems it is what's causing my problem. after a couple of hours wifi will disconnect and won't ever connect to a network again until the computer is rebooted
[17:05] <Vuurdraak_> arooni, mm yeh not sure whats going on
[17:06] <Guest44331> wafflejock, avoid a bug present in network-manager
[17:06] <Vuurdraak_> arooni, i was reading this info: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/205529/nfs-mount-nfs-protocol-not-supported
[17:07] <wafflejock> Guest44331, have you tried to restart network manager when that happens?
[17:07] <Vuurdraak_> arooni, maybe you can test what the capibilities are
[17:07] <wafflejock> Guest44331, or check out the output from dmesg, sounds like it could be a driver too in which case the manager won't really matter so much
[17:07] <Vuurdraak_> arooni, as they talk aslo there about nsf not liking udp
[17:07] <Vuurdraak_> also*
[17:09] <Guest64510> помогите дельфина починить непоказывает весь обьем диска и ппц виснет при копирывание
[17:09] <kicksled> arooni: protocol not supported? is nfs-common package installed?
[17:10] <arooni> kicksled: nfs-common package is installed yes
[17:10] <Guest44331> wafflejock,  it didn't give anything useful, it just said it timed out, it times out at trying to connect to all and every network
[17:10] <OerHeks> !ru | <Guest64510>
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[17:10] <ameurux> hello
[17:10] <ameurux> anyone tried samba on 16.10?
[17:11] <Guest64510> fack ru all loser
[17:11] <Guest64510> help eng
[17:12] <kicksled> ameurux: you're back
[17:12] <arooni> this is the error i'm getting https://gist.github.com/3891e462785b9387b176f7473931d438
[17:12] <Guest44331> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1393744 here's a bug report that shows the same behavior and it was never fixed, some people claimed that after removing network-manager the problem stopped
[17:13] <OerHeks> i rather suspect the wifi card/dongle than networkmanager
[17:13] <kicksled> ameurux: yeah, while you were gone I fired up a virtual machine with 16.10 server. fresh install, only commands I ran was "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" after all updates were installed I did sudo apt-get install samba. no errors
[17:13] <OerHeks> and such old bugreport, do you think it is still valid?
[17:14] <kicksled> ameurux: can you do a ifconfig please and pastebin the output?
[17:14] <kicksled> ameurux: I see from your pastebin earlier that there are some issues with the interfaces also
[17:16] <OerHeks> if this still is your error, "Failed to preset unit: Unit file /etc/systemd/system/samba-ad-dc.service is masked." maybe this wiki is any help https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-dc.html
[17:17] <kicksled> arooni: are all the ports you need for nfs open on the server?
[17:18] <arooni> kicksled: i'm not sure how to check that;  its sort of a scaled back version of linux running on it
[17:18] <Guest44331> OerHeks, the card works properly on windows, so the card isn't the problem, and there are messages from a year ago, so I don't see how a but that hasn't been marked as solved isn't relevant
[17:18] <Vuurdraak_> arooni, maybe reverting to an older protocol version will help ? like adding: vers=2  to the mount command ?
[17:18] <arooni> version 2 doesnt let it run :\
[17:19] <kicksled> arooni: what device is it? do you have a web interface or just command line?
[17:19] <arooni> if i could just get something to mount it
[17:19] <kicksled> looks like v4 fails and v3 is ok but permissions fail
[17:19] <arooni> kicksled: i have a web interface ; and command line;  https://bitbucket.org/padavan/rt-n56u/wiki/EN/FirmwareBuilds
[17:20] <kicksled> arooni: under advanced settings and firewall on your web interface
[17:20] <Chinesium> Okay, I'm posing this question to multiple channels. Why should I pick this distro over another? I'm a Windows user mostly, but I also run ChromiumOS for battery life.
[17:21] <arooni> kicksled: stuipd me :\  haha
[17:21] <arooni> kicksled: so turn off the firewall?
[17:21] <mcphail> Chinesium: this is the support channel. Best ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux
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[17:21] <ameurux> I paste
[17:21] <Southern_Gentlem> Chinesium, all the major distros have live isos you can download and try out
[17:21] <OerHeks> Guest44331, it al depends on your wifi chipset/driver, and cannot be compared with windows.
[17:21] <Southern_Gentlem> try them and see which one works the best for you
[17:22] <Chinesium> I want people to sell me on them
[17:22] <OerHeks> Guest44331, so what wifi chipset do you have exactly?
[17:22] <Chinesium> I'll probably end up using lxde of xfce anyway
[17:22] <kicksled> arooni: I wouldn't turn it off, but yeah, you can test it and see. If it works with firewall off, turn it back on and just open the ports you need and set permissions for your laptop/local network only
[17:22] <Guest44331> OerHeks, the same one of the bug report
[17:22] <kicksled> Chinesium: lubuntu
[17:22] <Chinesium> Why?
[17:22] <Southern_Gentlem> Chinesium,  no its up to you in the long run
[17:22] <arooni> kicksled: turned it off and didnt have any effect lol :(
[17:23] <Pici> Chinesium: You should try out a distro before picking it for use. Many distros offer live CDs/DVDs.  I would familiarize yourself with the package management systems in each as well as the actual packages offered and the support lifetime for the release you're choosing.
[17:24] <ameurux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23384523/
[17:24] <Pici> Chinesium: Lubuntu and Xubuntu come with lxde/xfce installed by default, but they have the rest of the Ubuntu respositories available for use.
[17:24] <kicksled> arooni: what does your system log on the router/server say?
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[17:26] <kicksled> ameurux: hmm.. strange. I had no problems installing samba on a fresh 16.10 server at least. have no idea whats going on with your samba install unfortunately. try sudo apt-get purge samba and after that, check if there still is a samba dir in /etc/ and try to delete it manually. and then try to install samba again
[17:28] <ameurux> ok
[17:28] <ameurux> I try
[17:28] <OerHeks> Guest44331, known issues with that ralink, nohwcrypt seems like a solution https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/266033
[17:30] <kicksled> ameurux: if that fails I really have no clue whats happened with your server. Is it a server thats in production and needs to stay up? If its only for testing/personal use, I would recommend a fresh install again as a last resort.
[17:30] <ducasse> Chinesium: it's not our job to sell you on anything, this channel is for support. try #ubuntu-offtopic.
  thank you for trying out for me,
[17:39] <kicksled> ameurux: no problem :)
[17:44] <meatrocket> hi
[17:44] <meatrocket> I'm a child molester
[17:44] <meatrocket> any little kids here?
[17:47] <alejandro_> i cant install apps
[17:47] <kicksled> alejandro_: elaborate please
[17:47] <theShirbiny> !info alejandro_
[17:47] <theShirbiny> shit
[17:48] <kicksled> :p
[17:48] <alejandro_> alguien que hable español me podría ayudar con un problemita?
[17:48] <Pici> !es | alejandro_
[17:49] <alejandro_> join #ubuntu-es
[17:49] <noboody> sdadsa
[17:49] <noboody> hello
[17:51] <konrados> Hi. When I'm trying to uninstall firefox ( sudo apt-get purge firefox ) I get this: http://pastebin.com/LQ5iHZRq - why can I solve this?
[17:53] <kicksled> konrados: try sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox
[17:53] <konrados> sec...
[17:53] <deadpirates> hello guys
[17:53] <deadpirates> I need a help
[17:53] <deadpirates> anyone here to help me out
[17:54] <ameurux> hello
[17:54] <deadpirates> hello ameurux
[17:54] <ameurux> kicksled  u there?
[17:54] <Vuurdraak_> just ask the question and see if anybody has any clue about it
[17:55] <deadpirates> I heard about about mariana's web recently !! Is that total hoax or true ?
[17:55] <ameurux> I found out why samba is making the error
[17:55] <konrados> kicksled, - same result:( "update-alternatives: error: /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-www-browser corrupt: unexpected end of file while trying to read slave link"
[17:55] <ameurux> there's no bug
[17:56] <ameurux> Im using 3g dongle, it confuses samba installer with ppp01 interface
[17:56] <ameurux> after connecting to LAN with ipv4 the install went smooth
[17:56] <ameurux> thank you all for your support
[17:57] <for{}> is there a romanian channel?
[17:58] <Random832> !ro | for{}
[17:58] <for{}> wow
[17:58] <ducasse> !ot | deadpirates
[17:58] <kicksled> konrados: sudo apt-get install -f to fix broken dependencies first. that should do the trick I think
[17:58] <deadpirates> thanks
[17:58] <Random832> generally the hint thingy is always !xx where xx is the language code
[17:58] <deadpirates> I got it
    thank you again and again
[17:59] <kicksled> ameurux: glad you found the problem and got it sorted :)
[17:59] <kicksled> ameurux: no problem
[18:00] <konrados> kicksled, thanks, but not really, I get this: http://pastebin.com/uAqGj1wY please help me...
[18:03] <kicksled> konrados: http://askubuntu.com/a/620983
[18:03] <konrados> sec...
[18:07] <konrados> kicksled, I tried that, because indeed, I don't really want to remove ff, but I want to make chrome the default. I already managed to increase chrome's priority, it did not work. Now it even worse, when I'm trying to "sudo update-alternatives..." I see "error: /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-www-browser corrupt: unexpected end of file while trying to read slave link"
[18:08] <konrados> kicksled, this is my "/var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-www-browser" file: http://pastebin.com/HCtUhe2f
[18:09] <arooni> how can i make sure that the drive i mounted with ; [I]  ~  sshfs admin@192.168.1.1:/media/HardDriveArooni ~/HardDriveArooni/ ;;; is always mounted?  on startup?  but also always
[18:09] <jacksbumleg> hello, I'm new to ubuntu
[18:10] <jacksbumleg> and irc
[18:10] <kicksled> kicksled: I have firefox as default browser. my x-www-browser file says 40 on firefox and 200 on chrome. hmm
[18:11] <konrados> kicksled - sec... it's the opposite than I thought, I thought the higher number the higher priority, sec..
[18:11] <Owl> Hi!
[18:11] <jacksbumleg> HI
[18:13] <jqke> Hi, i run ubuntu 16.04, and i try to upgrade to kernel 4.8.4 (with newer mesa) in order to have my rx480 running. Boot is hanging. Anyone to help me find out why ? I have no idea where to look
[18:14] <konrados> http://google.com
[18:15] <Pici> !google | konrados
[18:15] <konrados> No, pici, I'm testing what will be fired on clicking :)
[18:15] <konrados> Sorry for that
[18:16] <konrados> I'm trying to make chrome my default browser and I'm failing all the time Pici
[18:16] <konrados> jqke - it wasn't to you, I was just testing something
[18:16] <konrados> google-fu :) :)
[18:19] <konrados> kicksled,  - I'm not sure where did you take this "200" for chrome, but now I have this: http://pastebin.com/nNN11ARW - what should be the default now? Isn't that chrome? Should I restart the system after making those changes? Or maybe now I should do this "update-alternatives" or something? I've just modified the file, nothing more
[18:20] <TEB1992> I was wondering with Kubuntu 10.04 LTS Can I still download updates from different other programs like VLC or Firefox or other programs
[18:22] <hippybear> TEB1992, on K10?
[18:23] <hippybear> you will have to keep it unplugged and manually build everything
[18:23] <konrados> Pici,  - I misspelled your nickname, I wanted to say that this "google.com" link was my testing, I wasn't telling anybody to use google.
[18:23] <Pici> konrados: I saw it anyway.
[18:23] <hippybear> repo versions will probably give you issues over dependencies and updating versions
[18:23] <konrados> OK, cool
[18:24] <TEB1992> hibbybear yes
[18:25] <TEB1992> hibbybear: I want to download Kubuntu Netbook Verison 10.04 LTS I know it Long Term Support but I was wondering can I still recive updates from different other application like VLC and other stuff to...
[18:26] <ducasse> TEB1992: 10.04 is eol
[18:27] <TEB1992> Can you be more clear please I downloaded the version that was LTS
[18:27] <ducasse> TEB1992: eol = end of life. no longer supported.
[18:27] <konrados> OK, so to put it short - I modified "/var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-www-browser" file, should I do anything else?
[18:27] <konrados> *to make it shorted
[18:27] <kicksled> konrados: afaik chrome should be default
[18:27] <Pici> TEB1992: Ubuntu versions are named after the YEAR.MONTH of release. 10.04 was released in April 2010, its over 5 years old now and is no longer supported.
[18:27] <saml> do I need dnsmasq?
[18:27] <saml> is it safe to remove/disable it?
[18:28] <TEB1992> Kubuntu 10.04.4 LTS (Lucid Lynx) is not supported anymore
[18:28] <TEB1992> is that what you are saying
[18:29] <ducasse> TEB1992: yes.
[18:29] <konrados> kicksled, but when I do "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" I get "error: /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-www-browser corrupt: unexpected end of file while trying to read slave name" - is there a syntax error here: http://pastebin.com/nNN11ARW or somewhere else?
[18:29] <TEB1992> ducasse so why does the company put LTS if it not going to be a long term support am I seeing it wrong
[18:29] <wafflejock> TEB1992, as mentioned versions are named based on the year and month released 10.04 was 2010 and 04 month or april
[18:29] <ducasse> TEB1992: 'long term' does not mean forever.
[18:30] <wafflejock> TEB1992, it's cleared shown here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[18:30] <wafflejock> TEB1992, it's expected that at least every 4 years you upgrade to get newer software that will get security patches
[18:31] <Sircle> I plugged nvs quadro 420 and 450 http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_420_us.html and http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_450_us.html and I saw only 2 out of 4 LCDs were shown as connected in xrandr -q. Other 2 as disconneced. I plugged that on an other machine having windows, I got all 4 working. A) any clues why? B) whats the minimum most costly card with 3-4 display at a time (for
[18:31] <Sircle> multiseat) is 100% supported by ubuntu?
[18:31] <Sircle> ppf: ^
[18:31] <noboody> ;]
[18:31] <noboody> [;
[18:31] <TEB1992> waflejock: or ducasse: Am running a netbook it has a intel atom it has a CPU of 1.97 GHz Proccessor 2GB of ram it very slow machine I can't really do a lot on it I want to load something that will make it better fell is there a netbook editon of ubuntu that I can try
[18:32] <OerHeks> there is no longer a netbook edition.
[18:32] <konrados> kicksled, you think this is the way: http://askubuntu.com/a/714730 >
[18:32] <konrados> ?
[18:32] <OerHeks> leightweight distro would be xubuntu or lubuntu
[18:32] <wafflejock> TEB1992, ^^
[18:33] <kicksled> konrados: yeah
[18:33] <wafflejock> TEB1992, xubuntu or lubuntu are graphically less demanding so will run much better on slower hardware
[18:34] <konrados> sec...
[18:36] <Sircle> anyone ever used ubuntu with multi display card?
[18:37] <wafflejock> Sircle, yeah have 2 monitors here now usually works fine what's up
[18:37] <tgm4883> I'm on two monitors right now
[18:37] <Sircle> wafflejock: tried more than 2 ever? I am trying multi seat
[18:38] <wafflejock> Sircle, mmm only had 2 work for me but only tried 3 on Intel4000 which I don't think is able to deal with that
[18:38] <wafflejock> Sircle, have seen a handful of more than 2 though
[18:38] <tgm4883> Sircle: I've turned off my laptop monitor, but I've had it on before in a 3 monitor setup
[18:38] <OerHeks> dual cards, you'll need to write a proper xorg.conf AFAIK
[18:39] <elisa87> can someone help me with this (or editting it?)? I am not very good in putting the situation into words http://askubuntu.com/questions/842111/manipulating-files-in-large-scale
[18:39] <Sircle> tgm4883: how? USB video cards?
[18:39] <Sircle> can I plug 2 graphic cards and use both at same time? Looks like I cannot. Nor more than 2 ports of a card.
[18:39] <tgm4883> Sircle: my laptop has a VGA and mini-display port
[18:39] <Sircle> wafflejock:  tgm4883 OerHeks ^
[18:40] <Sircle> OerHeks:  ok, so without xorg.conf, I CANNOT use more than one card or even more than 2 ports in a card?
[18:41] <Sircle> tgm4883:  so those vga and mini display port be turned to multi seat?
[18:41] <tgm4883> Sircle: oh, multi-seat
[18:41] <tgm4883> Sircle: maybe? IDK, I've not tried multi-seat
[18:42] <tgm4883> Sircle: you'd likely need a custom xorg.conf for that
[18:43] <konrados> another test: http://google.com
[18:44] <Sircle> tgm4883: but the cards should pickup. my 2 port of same card shows disconnected and 2 display. (xrandr)
[18:44] <Sircle> tgm4883:  do I need xorg config for that even?
[18:45] <tgm4883> Sircle: IDK, I've not really dealt with multi-card systems except for hybrid laptop setups
[18:45] <konrados> It didn't work kicksled - I have this now: http://pastebin.com/2ptpCd1d - but still this damn ff fires when I click on a link here... is there anything more I should do....... ?
[18:45] <kicksled> konrados: what desktop environment are you using?
[18:45] <konrados> KDE, kicksled
[18:46] <OerHeks> Sircle, with multiset you want 2 xorg.conf https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/936873/-howto-multiseat-with-ubuntu-16-04-systemd-gdm-proprietary-drivers/
[18:46] <kicksled> konrados: and you can't set default browser via system settings - default applications?
[18:47] <konrados> kicksled I tried that in the first place, but I'll try again, sec...
[18:48] <konrados> It's "google-chrome" kicksled
[18:48] <kicksled> konrados: strange..
[18:50] <Sircle> OerHeks:  why is that? why 2xorg.conf are needed?
[18:50] <thegamer> hello
[18:50] <OerHeks> Sircle, you want multiseat, = 2 users
[18:50] <Sircle> OerHeks:  and without even going to multiseat, the displays should not be shown as disconneced in xrandr -q. No?
[18:50] <konrados> Yeah, but I need to solve this, my knowledge is so poor when it comes to linux, kicksled - is there something else I can try? I even tried to simply uninstall the FF but I got the issues like: http://pastebin.com/LQ5iHZRq
[18:52] <konrados> sec.. kicksled  this time I think I managed to remove ff, after those "update-alternatives --remove-all ... " commands, sec...
[18:52] <OerHeks> It all depends on what cards and what connections, vga/dvi/dvi-d/hdmi/dp, without xorg.conf the max is 3 monitors maybe
[18:52] <konrados> test: http://google.com
[18:52] <kicksled> konrados: and sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-www-browser x-www-browser /usr/bin/google-chrome 40 also fails?
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> konrados  stop. use #test
[18:53] <OerHeks> or make it https
[18:53] <konrados> I tried that yesterday, the same error, but now I managed to delete ff, and now chrome starts up, as I wanted :) Thank you kicksled !
[18:54] <konrados> MonkeyDust, - OK, I'll stop, I was frustrated
[18:54] <OerHeks> make sure all browsers have 'check if <browser> is default' disabled, and logout, login and remove whatever
[18:54] <konrados> OerHeks - thanks, now I have only one browser, and it's enough for me right now, later I'll have to install ff anyway, but not in the next days :) Btw - yes, I tried that too.
[18:55] <kicksled> konrados: glad it worked out one way, strange problem you had there
[18:55] <Sircle> OerHeks:  and without even going to multiseat, the displays should not be shown as disconneced in xrandr -q. No?
[18:56] <Sircle> OerHeks:  sorry for repeat.
[18:56] <Sircle> OerHeks: is there a limit of default detectable displays to 3?
[18:56] <konrados> kicksled, yeah, I had no such problems before, actually, I usually managed to solve this using GUI only, thanks again.
[18:56] <konrados> Finally... after two days...
[18:56] <stan_man_can> Hey all. Whats the best way to monitor a group of servers? I have 6 servers around the world all serving the same website. Users get routed to a specific server via Constellix DNS Geo Proximity and Source GTD. Each region has a different amount of traffic, so I need to be able to monitor/view graphics of each machine
[18:56] <MyFightSong> i use ff to test if chrome has bugs or the site
[18:57] <stan_man_can> Any good way to do that? They're just VPS's at Digital Ocean.
[18:57] <OerHeks> Sircle, It all depends on what cards and what connections, vga/dvi/dvi-d/hdmi/dp
[18:57] <stan_man_can> not sure if there's a third party I should be using or what
[18:57] <Sircle> OerHeks:  all ports are dvi
[18:57] <ducasse> stan_man_can: munin, maybe.
[18:58] <dxiri> stan_man_can: or nagios
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> stan_man_can  is this useful https://landscape.canonical.com/
[18:58] <dxiri> in fact..for 6 servers you can use nagios XI
[18:58] <stan_man_can> thanks guys i'll check those out
[18:58] <dxiri> which is commercially supported nagios, very expensive but FREE for less than 10 hosts :)
[18:59] <Guest44331> guys, how do I safely remove network manager? I attempted to right now but it also wants to remove ubuntu-desktop among others
[18:59] <stan_man_can> I'm a developer not a sysadmin so this stuff isn't my forte. However, I setup a free API about 5 years ago and it's usage has exploded lately. 1 year ago it was doing about 1m req/m and now it's about 35m req/m and growing
[18:59] <stan_man_can> dxiri, awesome thanks
[19:00] <Sircle> OerHeks:  is there any such limited stated? (in a config file or so) or at system level?
[19:01] <stan_man_can> dxiri, looks like it's 7 hosts now not 10
[19:01] <stan_man_can> Yes! Nagios XI is available free of charge for monitoring small environments. Nagios XI installations with a free license are limited to monitoring seven (7) hosts (nodes).
[19:01] <dxiri> guess 7 is a sweeter spot to charge for it than 10 then :P
[19:01] <dxiri> it used to be 10
[19:01] <stan_man_can> lol
[19:02] <dxiri> its really cool stuff...takes away most of nagios complexity
[19:02] <dxiri> you download a VM, put it somewhere where it can reach your hosts
[19:02] <dxiri> and you set the ips and off you go
[19:02] <dxiri> it should detect what you are running and monitor the basic stuff
[19:03] <dxiri> then you can tune what to monitor
[19:03] <stan_man_can> i'm assuming you have to install a client or something on the servers?
[19:04] <Sircle> OerHeks: there?
[19:05] <C0r3> What time does ubuntu pushes the updates?
[19:05] <Pici> C0r3: When they're ready.
[19:06] <Sircle> I plugged nvs quadro 420 and 450 http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_420_us.html and http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_450_us.html and I saw only 2 out of 4 LCDs were shown as connected in xrandr -q. Other 2 as disconneced. I plugged that on an other machine having windows, I got all 4 working. A) any clues why? B) whats the minimum most costly card with 3-4 display at a time (for
[19:06] <Sircle> multiseat) is 100% supported by ubuntu?
[19:06] <dxiri> stan_man_can: depends on how much you want to monitor
[19:06] <dxiri> could be agentless using plain ssh
[19:07] <dxiri> or you could use one of the nagios agents and install that on your 6 boxes
[19:07] <dxiri> agents give you more control at the expense of having something to install
[19:07] <Guest28463> Anyone here familiar with Ubuntu snap?
[19:09] <OerHeks> Sircle, then i guess you still need an xorg
[19:09] <C0r3> Pici: Is there a specific time? Like at 00:00 Hrs??
[19:09] <ducasse> Guest28463: just ask your question.
[19:10] <Pici> C0r3: Nope.  They just push them when they're done working on them.
[19:10] <hackerii_> org
[19:10] <C0r3> Oh.. Okay. Thanks.
[19:11] <Sircle> herekun:  why ubuntu had stopped cards to display all ports/lcds by default? why does it not auto detects?
[19:14] <ducasse> Sircle: ubuntu does nothing to stop them working, you need to configure your drivers and x server correctly.
[19:15] <Sircle> ducasse:  if 2 ports out of four are detected and working, why the other 2 not auto detected (after all its the same card we are talking about)?
[19:16] <Sircle> ducasse:  the other 2 ports are shown as disconnected in xrandr -q. Why?
[19:16] <Sircle> ducasse:  I cant plug 2 cards also
[19:16] <Sircle> only one works
[19:17] <de-facto> hmm how come i get displayed *just* the i386 packages in a repo instead of the correct (and also available) amd64 packages? .(
[19:17] <Sircle> ducasse:  I had already selected the recommended drivers of card in extrra drivers app
[19:17] <Sircle> ducasse: OerHeks ?
[19:19] <de-facto> can i somehow tell dpkg/apt to ignore all i386 and just *always* use amd64?
[19:20] <ducasse> Sircle: i know nothing about the nvidia drivers, i avoid them as much as possible. have you seen this? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_multiseat
[19:20] <Sircle> ducasse:  its not about multiseat yet. I should get a display at least when I pluch 4 lcds in a 4 port card
[19:21] <Guest17062> de-facto: use
[19:21] <Guest17062> deb [ arch=amd64 ] ...
[19:21] <Guest17062> in sources.list
[19:21] <Sircle> ducasse:  signing off. THanks
[19:21] <ducasse> Sircle: take a look at that article, it explains how to set up what you want.
[19:22] <Mohammad> Hello
[19:23] <Guest28463> I know how to install a snap but I can't find any info at all on how to backup said data from snap application. For ex, nextcloud is available in snap. Suppose I want a backup of the data contained within the snap itself?
[19:23] <Guest61747> Anybody can help me?
[19:23] <de-facto> Guest17062 thanks but that seems to make no difference, it displays the <pkg>:i386 versions just
[19:24] <de-facto> i really dont want to download them all manually :( grrr
[19:24] <Guest17062> you did an apt update?
[19:24] <ducasse> Guest61747: the data is saved wherever it would normally be saved, in your homedir or whatever.
[19:24] <ducasse> Guest28463: ^^
[19:25] <de-facto> Guest17062 yes aand reload in synaptic
[19:25] <Guest28463> ducasse, I've looked and looked.. I've even done a dir size x-reference before and after dumping huge files in.. no change.
[19:26] <Guest28463> ducasse, are you speculating or do you know snappy workings?
[19:26] <ducasse> Guest28463: i know it's not saved inside the snap, because that is read only.
[19:26] <Guest28463> ducasse, agree.
[19:27] <Guest28463> ducasse, how would i monitor file size changes in terminal? Maybe that would give me a clue
[19:29] <ducasse> Guest28463: for something like nextcloud i would think you could configure where data is saved, if not ask whoever built the snap.
[19:29] <de-facto> can i somehow tell synaptic to never ever display i386 packages?
[19:29] <mahmut> turk var mı :D
[19:29] <Guest28463> ducasse, it's in /var/snap
[19:30] <Guest28463> ducasse, so far it doesn't.. im just experimenting with snap but there's no way in hell i would use it without knowing how to restore it on another server :)
[19:31] <abhishek> hi guys!
[19:31] <abhishek> Any ideas on this one http://askubuntu.com/questions/842134/acpi-warning-argument-4-type-mismatch?
[19:32] <OerHeks> abhishek, KDE neon, better ask in #kubuntu
[19:33] <de-facto> lol should i scroll in 53462 packages in arch:amd64 because synaptic search is broken (displaying i386)?
[19:33] <abhishek> OerHeks, thanks for the suggestion. But it seems more on the side bios and neon is 16.04.
[19:34] <abhishek> Which may make relevant here I guess. :)
[19:35] <ducasse> abhishek: not really, kde neon is not ubuntu, it's a derivative.
[19:36] <abhishek> ducasse, but it uses ubuntu-core package right? Sry I am new to ubuntu.
[19:36] <de-facto> this is ridiculous, why cant i just choose that it prefers amd64 and dont display the wrong arch on searches?
[19:37] <OerHeks> ducasse, synaptic, bottom option: architecture
[19:37] <OerHeks> ...
[19:38] <ducasse> abhishek: it is not an official flavor, so not supported here.
[19:43] <newbie|2> Anyone wanna help me with teamviewer?
[19:44] <de-facto> OerHeks i guess that was meant for me? sure i can scroll in 53462 packages, that is what i did now, but searches wont remember the previously selected arch there (then it goes to search results tab)
[19:45] <newbie|2> I sse "teamviewerd -d" in task manager. But no GUI pops up, so I can't use it
[19:47] <CtrlC> hi, what's the easiest way to have phantomjs on ubuntu?
[19:48] <de-facto> can i set that in internal option Variable->Value somehow maybe?
[19:48] <CtrlC> I need to make an installation script and phantomjs is a part of it.
[19:48] <ducasse> newbie|2: are you sure that's the frontend process? sounds like a daemon.
[19:53] <de-facto> hmm i give up, i guess multiarch is broken for this
[19:54] <speeder> how I make a DNS be 100% automatic?
[19:55] <speeder> ie: given to me by the DHCP server
[19:55] <speeder> I tried using NetworkManager to set all to auto, but it still doesn't work, if I cat /etc/resolv.conf I still get some bogus DNS addresses (with a comment on top saying it was generated by NetworkManager)
[19:56] <akik> speeder: the 127.0.1.1 is the address of dnsmasq started by network-manager
[19:57] <akik> speeder: network-manager knows then the correct dns server addresses
[19:57] <speeder> I am not seeing a 127 address
[19:57] <speeder> I am getting some random stuf
[19:57] <speeder> like 186.120.1.252
[19:58] <apb1963_> what video editing software is available?  I need to modify a .mp4 which is essentially just a powerpoint presentation in .mp4 format as far as I know..  I tried to get avidemux2.6-qt4 but it's not in the Xenial.
[19:58] <Southern_Gentlem> speeder you shouldnt see a 127 address
[19:58] <speeder> so, what I SHOULD see, and where?
[19:58] <akik> nameserver 127.0.1.1
[19:58] <speeder> the ubuntu machines are the only ones in my network that refuse to connect to any website
[20:00] <apb1963_> ubuntu 16.04
[20:00] <speeder> I tried doing cat /etc/resolv.conf and I get a comment about it being generated by networkmanager, and then several random IPs that are NOT the ones I want.
[20:01] <speeder> my networkmanager app I set everything to auto, no global DNS setting, no static DNS anywhere
[20:01] <apb1963_> newbie|2, try "teamviewer"
[20:02] <apb1963_> speeder, 14.04 ?
[20:02] <akik> speeder: are you in a corporate environment with some extra provisioning server or is still a stand-alone installation?
[20:02] <speeder> apb1963_: recently it was updated to 16.04
[20:03] <speeder> akik: there are no server controlling the network directly ,each machien has its own configuration
[20:03] <apb1963_> speeder, I could never get network manager to work in 14.04.  16.04 was a fresh install for me and networking simply worked.
[20:04] <speeder> :/
[20:05] <terrible> i have ubuntu 16 xenial installed and i want to know if i can set the unity launcher in dodge mode only hide when a windows show up
[20:05] <apb1963_> speeder, was it working for you in 14.04 ?
[20:06] <speeder> apb1963_: yes
[20:06] <speeder> I think
[20:06] <OerHeks> terrible, check out unitytweak-tool
[20:06] <speeder> I am not 100% sure, it isn't my machine
[20:06] <OerHeks> !info unitytweak-tool
[20:06] <apb1963_> speeder, so you didn't make any manual.... oh... yeah... I have a feeling you have some leftovers from manual config.
[20:06] <OerHeks> !info unity-tweak-tool
[20:07] <speeder> any idea on how I track it down?
[20:07] <speeder> or how I reset the DNS?
[20:07] <speeder> I couldn't figure how to make networkmanager change the /etc/resolv.conf file at all
[20:07] <speeder> disabling it, changing connection, etc... nothing worked
[20:07] <speeder> I didn't tried inputting a manual DNS though
[20:07] <apb1963_> speeder, take a look under /etc/network* and see if you see anything
[20:07] <speeder> will do
[20:08] <apb1963_> *anything amiss
[20:08] <ducasse> speeder: also look under /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d
[20:08] <speeder> whoa
[20:09] <newbie|2> ducasse: I had installed it.  From the "internet" tab, I just chose "teamviewer 11"
[20:09] <terrible> OerHeks: i already did but it doesnt give the option that i want only hide and auto-hide
[20:09] <newbie|2> apb1963_: I will try that
[20:11] <apb1963_> what video editing software is available?  I need to modify a .mp4 which is essentially just a powerpoint presentation in .mp4 format as far as I know..  I tried to get avidemux but it's not in Xenial.
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> apb1963_  there's openshot
[20:13] <ducasse> apb1963_: i know of kdenlive and openshot, never tried any of them.
[20:13] <speeder> alright
[20:14] <speeder>  /etc/reoslvconf/resolv.conf.d/ has two files, "head" and another one, that is empty
[20:14] <speeder> the "head" one has only a comment saying it is an automatically generated file
[20:14] <terrible> OerHeks: any help?
[20:14] <speeder> I also deleted /etc/resolv.conf
[20:15] <apb1963_> Yeah... saw the reviews... the "over my head" reviews... can't tell if any of them will do what I want without installing them :/  avidemux seemed to be the ticket but... not in Xenial and I've learned to be afraid of ppa's.
[20:15] <apb1963_> alrighty... thanks guys :)
[20:15] <apb1963_> speeder, I have the same
[20:16] <ducasse> speeder: 'head' and 'base' are actually used for generating the final resolv.conf file.
[20:16] <speeder> I have no final resolv.conf file anywhere now
[20:17] <speeder> and can't figure how to make a new one
[20:18] <dn`> Is there a way to figure out at which pci address e.g. ‘/sys/kernel/debug/dri/4/‘ is connected? (amdgpu)
[20:18] <ducasse> speeder: 'resolvconf -u', i think
[20:19] <apb1963_> speeder, pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[20:22] <Jsync> & for other a comment to you, Mr. Spider on the ceiling, being an individual named Jason that's in a relationship with a female with a Zeus Spouse Name Similarity, "It's good because it's truly good. It's like walking on the ground".
[20:22] <Pici> Jsync: excuse me?
[20:23] <apb1963_> Google says, The resolvconf -u command only updates resolv.conf from resolvconf's own database. You need to update the database.  To update the database you have to call resolvconf with the -a or -d option.
[20:23] <speeder> found the solution to my problem
[20:23] <speeder> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/280264/no-dns-resolution-after-upgrade-from-ubuntu-14-04-to-16-04
[20:23] <speeder> what is missing is this line: sudo ln -s ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf
[20:24] <logikos> I have a windows10 company laptop, boss wants to keep windows on it and have it be the default boot option but is allowing me to dual boot linux.  I resized the windows partition and added 3 partitions for linux (/, /home, swap) then installed xubuntu .. however after installation when it reboots ubuntu is not a boot option .. its not loading grub (i think)
[20:24] <Jsync> You didn't deserve that much "consideration", & that wasn't really about you, regardless that I directed the comment to you. ;)
[20:24] <speeder> seemly updating upbuntu from 14.04 to 16.04 craps out due to different expectations about resolv.conf being a symlink
[20:24] <Jsync> Just because I squint, that doesn't mean you're brilliant. I mean, "Hell"!! :)
[20:24] <logikos> If i hit F12 during boot i get boot options which only has the option for windows (unless my live usb is inserted then i have an option for it also)
[20:25] <logikos> both windows and ubuntu are using UEFI
[20:25] <logikos> any idea where i went wrong or how i can fix it?
[20:26] <apb1963_> speeder, I don't think that's the solution.  Did it actually fix all your problems, or just restore /etc/resolv.conf ?
[20:28] <speeder> apb1963_: following the solution there that has upvotes fixed all my network woes :)
[20:28] <speeder> so the problem was literally a missing symlink
[20:28] <speeder> (the other stuff I already had done)
[20:28] <apb1963_> that doesn't make sense... unless you actually did delete a file, not a link
[20:29] <speeder> apb1963_: taht is the thing, Ubuntu 14 seemly DIDN'T used that as a symlink, and Ubuntu 16 DOES
[20:29] <speeder> thus networkmanager was happily updating a dns file that my programs never read
[20:29] <akik> speeder: it's a symlink in 14.04 too
[20:29] <speeder> then what happened to the symlink?
[20:30] <speeder> maybe it linked different places?
[20:30] <apb1963_> speeder, we'll never know.  You said you deleted /etc/resolv.conf
[20:30] <speeder> apb1963_: I did, with a rm, like the first line in the solution
[20:30] <apb1963_> speeder, There went all the evidence.
[20:30] <speeder> after I gave up in figuring why it wasn't updating
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> speeder  shouldnt have rm'd it, rather renamed it to foo.bak or so
[20:31] <apb1963_> speeder, To know, we'd have had to see what /etc/resolv.conf really was... a file or a link.  However, why it would be a file in the first place... perhaps your predecessor was monkeying.
[20:32] <apb1963_> speeder, well, it works... happy happy.
[20:32] <apb1963_> I'm off to the video editing races.... tally ho!
[20:32] <speeder> I did tried writing into resolv.conf before erasing it, it never got error, but never got edited either
[20:32] <speeder> (using cat >)
[20:32] <speeder> echo >
[20:32] <speeder> or both
[20:35] <akik> speeder: that's why the file says not to edit it manually
[20:35] <speeder> akik: I only tried to edit it manually to see what would happen
[20:35] <speeder> I never wanted anything manual
[20:35] <terrible> is there a way to replace unity launcher for cairo-dock or another dock bar??
[20:35] <speeder> I have 4 DNS servers provided by my network
[20:35] <speeder> sometimes more
[20:35] <speeder> manual config usually has less
[20:36] <Jsync> The point is, if you don't realize it's a huge security risk to the system & a profound detriment to the global human population now & in the future within a context that the published Lune Names are Greek Pagan Deity Names (mostly female spouse names) & the published Planet Names actually are false names (not associated in slightest context!!), then you people were not as aware as my first comodore!! It's a good technical point, while 
[20:37] <vin3> anyone using Smuxi knows how to edit colors of background?
[20:39] <vin3> founded
[20:39] <Pici> vin3: #smuxi supposedly exists here on freenode
[20:41] <marcofe> hello everybody
[20:44] <yokisuci> :q
[20:44] <sayan97>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER sayan97 orhtpytpcexe
[20:45] <Pici> (its not a password)
[20:50] <ikonia> oops/win 14
[20:53] <Irany> Anyone here has used Kubuntu AND Ubuntu + KDE?
[20:53] <Irany> Kubuntu is lighter?
[20:53] <JustAnotherIdiot> how do I make a fake domain? I want the domain vw point to my vps's ip
[20:54] <bindi> JustAnotherIdiot: add it to /etc/hosts
[20:54] <JustAnotherIdiot> oh ok
[20:56] <JustAnotherIdiot> is there a way to have ssh by default login with root instead my username?
[20:57] <bindi> disable root login where ever you are using it
[20:57] <bindi> it's not safe
[20:57] <JustAnotherIdiot> no
[20:58] <chubinou> JustAnotherIdiot: maybe with ssh_config
[20:58] <bindi> :|
[20:58] <JustAnotherIdiot> I use ssh keys
[20:58] <JustAnotherIdiot> I don't see how it would make a difference
[20:59] <JustAnotherIdiot> it would just be more of an annoyance
[21:00] <chubinou> in .ssh/config   Host *\n\tUser root
[21:00] <OerHeks> JustAnotherIdiot, it would be annoyance when default was root.
[21:00] <OerHeks> so set it properly to your conveniance
[21:04] <Jsync> I'd like to make a real quick point about "TRUTH", then I'll stop commenting: It's FALSE to suggest that the eye inverts an image to the brain. The suggestion that the eye sees what's upside down is a detriment to the concept of science of a consequence of invaders' descendants within the North American Continental borders. "This land is Mayan". If it were really so that the eye inverts an image that is transmitted to the brain, then th
[21:04] <ikonia> csop
[21:06] <chubinou> Hello, I upgraded recently my (k)ubuntu from 16.04 to 16.10 and since my screen is blinking, I already tried to downgrade my kernel and video driver but it doesn't make a difference. My computer is a laptop with an "NVIDIA Corporation GM107M [GeForce GTX 850M]" and a intel chipset
[21:08] <chubinou> dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23385457/
[21:09] <chubinou>   /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23385469/
[21:14] <CtrlC> What is the easiest way to give out a https proxy?
[21:15] <Free99> Hello everyone, I'm on 16.04.1 x64, fully updated. I'm using a CFD application which leans real hard on my CPU to where the system completely freezes. I can't figure out what's up as there are no old syslog or dmesg entries when I reboot and look at the old logs, I tried using the kexec crashdump thing but I can't get that working either. Any ideas?
[21:21] <insy> mkmvd193
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> this page still mentions Breezy Badger as minimum requirement for CFD ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenFOAM
[21:22] <Free99> lol
[21:22] <Free99> I'm using COMSOL multiphysics 5.2
[21:23] <Free99> I've never seen the kernel do a full freeze because the load was too high
[21:24] <AndChat728121> Could anyone spare a few moments to help me set up my partitions? I've been googling for a while but due to the way my Windows 7 partitions are setup, I'm having a lot of issues.
[21:25] <Ben64> AndChat728121: explain
[21:26] <AndChat728121> sda1 is "Windows Boot", sda2 is "Windows Recovery Environment", sda3 is C:/, sda4 is free.
[21:27] <AndChat728121> But preferably I want a home partition, a swap partition and a partition for Ubuntu but I seem to not be able to do that.
[21:27] <Ben64> ok, you should be able to make sda4 extended, and put everything else inside that
[21:27] <AndChat728121> Nope, extended is not an option.
[21:27] <AndChat728121> Only physical and logical.
[21:27] <usr13> sda4 is free?
[21:28] <AndChat728121> Yup. But there's no option to select extended.
[21:28] <Ben64> can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"
[21:28] <AndChat728121> That's what my searches led me to.
[21:28] <usr13> logical
[21:29] <usr13> AndChat728121: Actually, you'll just delete it and re-create it
[21:29] <AndChat728121> I'm pretty sure I tried that. Give me a minute to boot back into the DVD.
[21:29] <usr13> AndChat728121: But you said "sda3 is c:/"  Really?
[21:29] <o|0_0|v_Peace> How can I use gcc-4.9 instead of gcc 6.2.0
[21:30] <AndChat728121> Well, I presume so. It doesn't say anything.
[21:30] <o|0_0|v_Peace> Ubuntu 16.04
[21:30] <usr13> AndChat728121: Ok, well I guess it could be....
[21:30] <AndChat728121> I can take a picture in a moment.
[21:30] <AndChat728121> Just messing around trying to get into WRE at the moment.
[21:30] <Ben64> o|0_0|v_Peace: you don't
[21:30] <usr13> AndChat728121: sda1 is usually C:\
[21:30] <o|0_0|v_Peace> Ben64 Never under any circumstances?
[21:30] <usr13> AndChat728121: How large is sda4?
[21:31] <Ben64> o|0_0|v_Peace: doesn't seem like it's in the repositories, so probably not
[21:31] <o|0_0|v_Peace> Right on, thank you.
[21:31] <AndChat728121> I'll let you know as soon as I boot into the DVD again, sorry. I came unprepared!
[21:32] <usr13> AndChat728121: What you might do is use gparted live CD to delete sda4
[21:32] <usr13> AndChat728121: http://gparted.org/livecd.php
[21:33] <usr13> AndChat728121: But you might even be able to use MS Windows' own partition manager to do it.
[21:33] <john_106> hi guys, can you hel pout with a lubuntu issue?
[21:34] <usr13> john_106: Sure....
[21:34] <AndChat728121> Need to get into WRE first and reinstall Windows. This computer was donated to me earlier so I've only just gotten my hands on it. Seems that the Windows install I'd pretty borked.
[21:34] <usr13> AndChat728121: Just install Ubuntu and ditch MS Windows.  :)
[21:35] <AndChat728121> I need VS for University.
[21:35] <AndChat728121> Amongst other things.
[21:35] <usr13> AndChat728121: Half the work, twice the satisfaction. :)
[21:35] <usr13> AndChat728121: VS?
[21:35] <AndChat728121> Visual Studio.
[21:35] <john_106> im running fresh 16.10 lubuntu, I'm expecting xterm in the "?other" menu but instead have 2 instances of "image magick"
[21:36] <Free99> My fully updated ubuntu 16.04.1 x64 system is crashing when I apply a moderate load to it... can anyone help?
[21:36] <Free99> this is how the system froze: http://s11.postimg.org/uqfmpp1pv/crash.jpg
[21:36] <ikonia> Free99: define crashing
[21:37] <usr13> AndChat728121: Here is what I suggest:  Install Linux, use VirtualBox to install MS Windows and then you'll have your VS
[21:37] <Free99> ikonia, I am running a multiphysics application (COMSOL) which has always worked in the past, but now seems to completely halt the system. SysRq doesn't work, ctrl-f1 nada, nothing
[21:37] <ikonia> Free99: it seems to only be hitting one core too
[21:38] <usr13> AndChat728121: ... that way, you can get started now...
[21:38] <usr13> AndChat728121: Is it Windows 10 or Windows 7 ?
[21:38] <ikonia> Free99: if sysrq is not responding it's normally a hardware lock,
[21:39] <Free99> ikonia, it leaves no trace of what happened in the logs, I tried using linux-crashdump to help but to no avail.
[21:39] <Free99> hmm
[21:39] <ikonia> Free99: I'm having a similar problem with a different distro, so I can appreciate how frustrating it is
[21:39] <ikonia> Free99: I'm currently running a 100 hour memcheck
[21:40] <Free99> I can get this to happen literally every time, within about 5 minutes
[21:40] <ikonia> Free99: it doesn't always mean it is a hardware problem, but it is the most common situation, so like you, I need to remove that doubt as best possible
[21:40] <Free99> frustrating to say the least, trying to get some work done
[21:40] <ikonia> Free99: I can do it in under 3
[21:40] <Free99> lol sheesh
[21:40] <ikonia> Free99: it's annoying as hell, I fully feel your pain
[21:41] <ikonia> I've had to migrate my dhcp service to another device as it was having a huge impact
[21:41] <Free99> ikonia, think it could be a kernel issue?
[21:41] <Free99> I'm on 4.4.0-45
[21:41] <de-facto> i got this too, and i guess for me its nvidia, so might not be related then
[21:41] <ikonia> Free99: is that a stock kernel ?
[21:41] <Free99> yes, EFI signed
[21:41] <ikonia> Free99: why do you think it's a kernel problem out of interest
[21:42] <ikonia> Free99: thats the kernel that ubuntu ships with ?
[21:42] <lgomezcl> what
[21:43] <lgomezcl> ññ
[21:44] <Free99> well when I was on 14.04 I had kernel 4.2 on one previous hardware revision of this laptop
[21:44] <Free99> ikonia, unfortunately I chose to install 16.04 on this new revision of the laptop at the same time as the laptop itself was new, so whether its a hardware issue or kernel issue requires sniffing around for clues
[21:45] <AndChat728121> Oh dear.
[21:45] <AndChat728121> So, I can get onto one of the Windows user accounts but the admin account password is... lost to the ages. So I can't even reinstall Windows using the built-in recovery partition.
[21:45] <AndChat728121> Would it maybe be easier to just wipe the entire HDD, install Ubuntu and leave some space for Windows and deal with the later?
[21:45] <ikonia> Free99: I can see why you'd make that initial assumption as it's "locking" and the kernel isn't responding to sysrq
[21:45] <ikonia> Free99: are there any crash dumps ?
[21:45] <Free99> AndChat728121, it's easier to install windows first because it doesn't respect bootloaders of others
[21:45] <ikonia> Free99: install the kernel debug symbols incase you manage to get a crash dump
[21:45] <AndChat728121> But last time I did something like that I lost the ability to boot at all.
[21:46] <Free99> ikonia, no crash dumps which is why I'm wondering what's going on
[21:46] <AndChat728121> Crap! I guess I need to research if it's possible to hack a W7 admin account. Fun.
[21:46] <ikonia> Free99: and thats the sign that points more at hardware (again not fact), I'm having the same, 1 crash dump after about 4 days of dumping every 3 - 7 minutes
[21:46] <Free99> AndChat728121, it sure is possible
[21:46] <Free99> AndChat728121, http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/
[21:46] <ikonia> Free99: I'd suggest you start getting some confidence your hardware is fine, as thats the first point to rule out
[21:46] <de-facto> AndChat728121 maybe you can reset your windows password with sth like http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/  (carefull and at own risk!)
[21:47] <AndChat728121> Worth a shot. There is nothing of value on the entire HDD.
[21:48] <abhishek> hi
[21:49] <abhishek> why doesn't unattended-upgrades work?
[21:49] <abhishek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23385604/
[21:50] <abhishek> any ideas?
[21:51] <hippybear> it did
[21:51] <hippybear> No packages found that can be upgraded unattended and no pending auto-removals
[21:51] <hippybear> Run 'apt list --upgradable
[21:52] <hippybear> also shouldnt neon have its own room?
[21:52] <AndChat728121> Ah ha. Need admin to setup USB tethering. Computer has no wireless support. Ethernet not possible, no modem/router, only a phone with unlimited data. Kill me now.
[21:56] <de-facto> use cdrom or usbstick
[21:56] <AndChat728121> Hopefully ntpaswd will work when burned to a DVD but it mentions only CDs. Only one way to find out!
[21:57] <de-facto> neat-to-have cd/dvd anyhow ;)
[21:58] <juanonymous> Hello my unity disappeared after i opened confiz-settings-manager
[21:58] <AndChat728121> Why is nothing ever easy?
[21:58] <juanonymous> Tried alt-cltl-t to get into the terminal
[21:59] <juanonymous> But it seems gone too
[21:59] <juanonymous> Anything to resolve this issue?
[22:00] <de-facto> juanonymous if you cant get a TTY with Alt Ctrl F1-F? then you might need SysRQ to reboot maybe: Ctr Shift Print + {R,E,I,S,U,B] (hold Ctrl Shift Print and then type those letters slowly, then release all keys)
[22:01] <OerHeks> confiz->compiz
[22:01] <OerHeks> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:02] <lakitu> erasmus, cool nick
[22:03] <erasmus> I also have a huge coq.
[22:03] <memo-rmx> hola!!!
[22:03] <spacecub> oh, hi
[22:03] <memo-rmx> que tal!?
[22:04] <spacecub> ive got a root shell, how do i start a root file-manager from there?
[22:05] <lakitu> find your filemanager name and just type it; e.g. "dolphin
[22:05] <lakitu> "
[22:05] <insy> whats the best way to install cinnamon on ubuntu 16-04 with unity, i dont want the complete install just the desktop manager
[22:06] <spacecub> lakitu: no ./ first?
[22:06] <lakitu> no, because it knows it, by being in /usr/sbin or wherever
[22:06] <lakitu> /usr/bin, etc
[22:06] <spacecub> worked, thanky :)
[22:06] <lakitu> yep
[22:07] <debkad> if it is a gui best to use gksu/gksudo
[22:08] <lakitu> debkad probabyl knows better than me there, spacecub
[22:08] <lakitu> probably i mean.
[22:09] <juanonymous> De-facto i am now at tty
[22:10] <juanonymous> Any instructions on what to do next?
[22:10] <juanonymous> Please
[22:16] <protn> do we have DiffMerge like stuff in repo?
[22:16] <protn> gui diff tool
[22:17] <hippybear> protn, http://meldmerge.org ?
[22:17] <Free99> ikonia, so I got my system to crash with "stress-ng --syslog -v --cpus 1 --vm 2 --vm-bytes 4G --timeout 120s", and it never came back after 120s
[22:17] <protn> similar
[22:17] <protn> ty
[22:18] <hippybear> you can also use diff from terminal
[22:18] <hippybear> diff or colordiff
[22:18] <debkad> or cmp may be
[22:19] <Free99> my system has 8G ram, plus 2g swap.. I ran stress-ng as my regular user so it'd still be subject to OOM killing, why didn't that work?
[22:19] <protn> whats the easiest way to use diff to see if two dirs got same files or not?
[22:20] <Ben64> diff dir_a dir_b
[22:20] <protn> kl
[22:25] <AndChat728121> ntpaswd worked. I could kiss you guys.
[22:25] <AndChat728121> s/s/ss
[22:26] <Free99> AndChat728121, it even works on windows 10 lol
[22:26] <AndChat728121> Amazing
[22:27] <juanonymous> Fuck
[22:27] <AndChat728121> I'm resetting Windows to factory settings now and then I can finally install Ubuntu. ^_^
[22:27] <juanonymous> I could not even boot to the system now
[22:28] <hippybear> toast.OS
[22:28] <hippybear> lol
[22:28] <hippybear> been there
[22:28] <hippybear> Free99, nothing works on windows 10
[22:28] <hippybear> lol
[22:29] <AndChat728121> I bet the tracking works really really well.
[22:29] <Free99> oh dude tell me about it, I have to use it on a tablet for my engineering job, the touch interface absolutely stinks even on apps written to use the touch libraries
[22:30] <vin3> juanonymous: can I help u?
[22:30] <StumpDumb> Hello...Is there a way to low level format a hard drive?
[22:30] <SwedeMike> StumpDumb: what problem are you trying to solve?
[22:30] <Free99> bbl guys, thanks
[22:30] <hippybear> I paid 3.5k for this brand new top of the line win10 with some fancy bells and whistles and it is the biggest piece of shit I have ever owned
[22:30] <Free99> oh one last thing, is memtest still included with grub?
[22:31] <Free99> I mean with default ubuntu install
[22:31] <hippybear> yupp
[22:31] <AndChat728121> OS X > *nix > Win7 > XP > Vista > Scientific Calculators > Household Appliances > Windows 10
[22:32] <hippybear> seems legit
[22:32] <Free99> thanks hippybear, I hear ya. I'm all for heterogenous clients and stuff but its pretty surprising how bad windows is this time around
[22:32] <AndChat728121> Although Apple have been ruining OS X för the last few years
[22:32] <hippybear> and their security is a joke
[22:32] <StumpDumb> I partitioned a hard drive and installed the Lubuntu install on the partition and it will not go away. I have installed (from USB) Lubuntu several times but it still boots to the installer on the HD partition
[22:32] <hippybear> settings is horrid
[22:32] <linxeh> uh, osx IS unix
[22:32] <hippybear> Apple is just an expensive printer
[22:32] <hippybear> just a status symbol
[22:33] <hippybear> StumpDumb, did you remove the USB after you installed?
[22:33] <linxeh> hippybear: no, it's the most practical desktop environment. I even know canonical employees (that work on Unity) that feel that
[22:33] <StumpDumb> yes,
[22:33] <hippybear> Oh people have a different opinion
[22:33] <hippybear> that seems normal
[22:34] <AndChat728121> But but but I like the pretty UI. Also my 8 year old stock Mac that still worked perfectly fine until I blew it up the other week ain't no status symbol.
[22:34] <StumpDumb> it continuously runs the install from the HD
[22:34]  * nacc feels like we've veered a bit offtopic
[22:34] <hippybear> StumpDumb, then where is it picking up the install.iso from?
[22:34]  * hippybear agrees
[22:34] <AndChat728121> Yeah, sorry. That was my fault.
[22:34]  * hippybear will rope it back in lol
[22:34] <StumpDumb> I partitioned a hard drive and installed the Lubuntu install on the partition and it will not go away. I have installed (from USB) Lubuntu several times but it still boots to the installer on the HD partition
[22:35] <nacc> StumpDumb: what do you mean by "installed the Lubuntu install"?
[22:35] <StumpDumb> I have tried Everything to get rid of the partition that is booting the install
[22:36] <hippybear> youre not really making sense
[22:36] <hippybear> how did you partition?
[22:36] <thgilfodrol> sounds like he cloned the installation media to a partition or something
[22:38] <StumpDumb> partitioned drive to 1G, ran Disk Image Writer to that partition and now it seems permanent
[22:38] <catbadger> 1G?!?!?
[22:38] <mitchell> Howdy!
[22:38] <catbadger> lol
[22:38] <catbadger> howdy mitchell
[22:38] <nacc> StumpDumb: I don't know what "Disk Image Writer" is, but why did you partition your hard drive outside of the installer?
[22:39] <StumpDumb> the files are ~850k
[22:39] <mitchell> So Xubuntu is an official flavor of Ubuntu, so I can ask questions here?
[22:39] <mitchell> But my question doesn't have to do with xfce.
[22:39] <nacc> mitchell: yes
[22:39] <mitchell> Excellent.
[22:40] <StumpDumb> The USB install DOES NOT remove the bootable partition on the drive WHY?
[22:41] <nacc> StumpDumb: did you tell the install to do so?
[22:41] <StumpDumb> So back to my original question How can I low level format a HD?
[22:41] <mitchell> So, I'm having trouble authenticating on the network at work. I disabled networkmanager and installed wicd, which is working, in part because the supplicant that came with networkmanager was not enabled or configured.
[22:41] <mitchell> wicd supports what should be the right authentication for my work network.
[22:42] <mitchell> But I still can't authenticate.
[22:42] <StumpDumb> In the install it asks how to set up the drive, the first selection is erase disk completely, it does not
[22:42] <mitchell> One of the IT guys at work thinks the network is set up to not allow Linux machines to authenticate.
[22:42] <mitchell> First, is that possible?
[22:43] <mitchell> Second, is there a way I can spoof a Windows configuration to the network authentication software?
[22:43] <StumpDumb> The fourth selection is to manually adjust the partition table, the bootable part is not displayed and is uneffected here also
[22:43] <mitchell> (That is, if the answer to the first question is "yes.")
[22:43] <linxeh> mitchell: yes. should you? no.
[22:44] <mitchell> Thaanks, linxeh. Could you please elaborate?
[22:45] <linxeh> mitchell: you can spoof anything - it's just bits over the wire. you said 'at work' - if you don't want to lose your job I'd suggest you don't want to violate their policies (unless you have a waiver allowing you to do this for security research purposes or similar - I've been where you are, and I've been beaten with the stick for not complying)
[22:45] <mitchell> Too true, linxeh.
[22:45] <mitchell> And an *excellent* point.
[22:45] <linxeh> mitchell: in short, find another job - not like clued up people aren't in demand
[22:45] <AndChat728121> What the heck kind of policy is "No Linux" anyway?
[22:45] <mitchell> linxeh, thank you for the compliment.
[22:46] <mitchell> It's not even a *policy*.
[22:46] <akik> mitchell: authenticate for any network access?
[22:46] <mitchell> It's just "This doesn't work... now go figure out why. Maybe."
[22:46] <thgilfodrol> wait, wouldn't that also prohibit android/chrome os stuff?
[22:46] <mitchell> Well, my Android phone gets on their network just fine.
[22:46] <StumpDumb> The install files are 899MB
[22:47] <mitchell> The only competent people in our IT department are the front-line people. Some of them.
[22:47] <homeschooldad> Hi, I need a little help installing a .deb file from the hard drive.  Sorry for being a neub...
[22:47] <nacc> StumpDumb: why do you keep saying that?
[22:47] <mitchell> Linxeh, I love my job--and it's not even in IT.
[22:48] <nacc> StumpDumb: you can reformat your hard drive, if booted into linux, with fdisk, cfdisk, parted, etc
[22:48] <Ben64> homeschooldad: dpkg -i blah.deb .... but you should find the software you want in the repositories or possibly a PPA before doing manual installs
[22:48] <linxeh> mitchell: nor mine, I'm a developer
[22:48] <StumpDumb> The bootable partition does not show up in gparted
[22:48] <homeschooldad> ben
[22:48] <StumpDumb> fdisk
[22:49] <mitchell> linxeh... hmmmm. I see software development as IT, but if software development *were* IT, Google would be one huge IT department.
[22:49] <mitchell> So, good point again.
[22:49] <Ben64> StumpDumb: then it doesn't exist
[22:49] <mitchell> But I'm an academic law librarian (and a lawyer). I'm just *sick to death* of Windows.
[22:49] <homeschooldad> ben64 - thanks do I need to cd into the directory that blah.deb is in?
[22:50] <linxeh> I see IT as those that provision computer systems (which is how pretty much every business and recruitment agency label it too)
[22:50] <Ben64> homeschooldad: or specify where it is, yes. but really, installing a deb manually is probably not what you want to do
[22:50] <nacc> mitchell: linxeh: i feel like this has veered offtopic
[22:51] <homeschooldad> Ben64 - I tried to use the ubuntu software installer but it craps outs and needs admin password
[22:51] <AndChat728121> Okay, I could use some help setting up my partitions. I've reset Windows to factory settings and now I'd like to add 3 partitions for Ubuntu - swap, root, home. But Window is taking up three partitions.
[22:51] <linxeh> nacc: I would agree; time to switch channels...
[22:51] <Ben64> homeschooldad: what are you trying to install? you need admin password to install a deb as well
[22:51] <StumpDumb> wen I boot with Only the HD connected, it goes into the Lubuntu install....select language....I have removed all partitions and formated the entire HD, yet it STILL runs the install
[22:52] <AndChat728121> I googled this earlier for a while and the solution seems to be "select extended" but it is not an option.
[22:52] <mitchell> nacc: Only if you think that stopping me from getting fired while learning about Linux isn't Linux support.
[22:52] <homeschooldad> ben64 - I have admin.  https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux/
[22:52] <Ben64> AndChat728121: did you ever show your partitioning here like it was asked for?
[22:52] <nacc> mitchell: this isn't "Linux support"
[22:53] <AndChat728121> I didn't because I was trying to fix Windows, sorry. I shall do so now, Ben64.
[22:53] <mitchell> linxeh: No, I get it--after you made the implicit distinction.
[22:53] <nacc> StumpDumb: can you provide the partitioning output for that disk?
[22:54] <nacc> StumpDumb: you can always zero out the disk, I really don't know what you did to put hte installer on the disk itself, which is rather abnormal
[22:54] <StumpDumb> Im looking at FDisk now
[22:55] <Ben64> StumpDumb: pastebin the output of 'sudo parted -l'
[22:57] <akik> AndChat728121: if you have three primary partitions, you can create the 4th partition as extended, and then create logical partitions under the extended partition
[22:57] <homeschooldad> ben64 - the file is at the link i posted.  its web conference software
[22:57] <Ben64> i know what teamviewer is
[22:58] <AndChat728121> Extended ws not an option, only logical and physical. Once Acer stops installing bloatware I will boot immediately into my Ubuntu disc.
[22:59] <akik> AndChat728121: i guess the installer hides that extended partition setup from you, but that's what is happening
[22:59] <homeschooldad> Ben64 - I didn't. sorry - double click doesnt work, and neither does dropping into ubuntu software
[22:59] <Ben64> homeschooldad: how does it not work
[22:59] <akik> i hate that information is hidden from the user
[23:00] <homeschooldad> Ben64 - I get a gui with and "instal" button.  I click the install button and it starts and then stops with out installing
[23:00] <AndChat728121> 10/15 bloatwares installed! What a joke.
[23:00] <StumpDumb> Just posted it in pastebin     "Lubuntu Boot"
[23:00] <Ben64> homeschooldad: ok so try 'sudo dpkg -i blah.deb'
[23:00] <Ben64> StumpDumb: you need to give the link here
[23:00] <homeschooldad> ok
[23:01] <StumpDumb> http://pastebin.com/62w8F9M4
[23:02] <StumpDumb> Is it booting from the zram0, I thot that was cleared on reboot
[23:02] <Ben64> what kind of machine is it
[23:03] <StumpDumb> Is the machine inquiry for me?
[23:03] <Ben64> yes
[23:03] <Guestie> I've been using Ubuntu Desktop for the past couple of weeks now. The Ubuntu Software Center is always bugging out. After I've installed packages with it, it still says "install" on the package.
[23:04] <nacc> Guestie: use gnome-software not hte ubuntu software center
[23:04] <homeschooldad> ben64- thanks for the help - the file is corrupt.  I'll resort to a (shudder) windoze box for tonight.  =)
[23:04] <nacc> Guestie: is my recommendation :)
[23:04] <Guestie> And, I've had it once where it wouldn't install packages, try after try. Is the Ubuntu Software Center a work-in-progress on working out the bugs?
[23:05] <nacc> Guestie: ubuntu is rmeoving the software-center package probably at some point (from the development release) during this cycle
[23:06] <hanshenrik> how the heck does this happen? http://paste.debian.net/890184/
[23:06] <StumpDumb> Its an old machine....Omni OTC-H3122D00
[23:07] <Guestie> I am using Ubuntu TLS 16.04. Should I get a new version? I don't have time to have to deal with computer issues, so I don't want to install an unstable version of Ubuntu.
[23:07] <nacc> Guestie: no, LTS is your best bet if you want stability
[23:07] <nacc> Guestie: as i said, just use gnome software and it should be fine
[23:08] <protn> hmm I used diff merge its gui sucky
[23:08] <protn> any tool that shows in GUI itself diff files if any
[23:08] <protn> dir, file, comparison
[23:08] <Tortillion> Hello!
[23:08] <protn> :P
[23:09] <nacc> hanshenrik: not sure, maybe provide more data like `ls -ahl` output for .ssh?
[23:10] <hanshenrik> nacc, http://paste.debian.net/hidden/7e042174/
[23:10] <nacc> hanshenrik: may need to use sudo temporarily just to get the output
[23:11] <hanshenrik> http://paste.debian.net/hidden/2c237cba/
[23:11] <protn> in fact diff merge is nice
[23:11] <protn>  btw who is girl here?>
[23:11] <nacc> protn: irrelevant question for this channel.
[23:11] <protn> dodge29: hi
[23:11] <protn> :P
[23:11] <protn> natalia ok
[23:12] <nacc> hanshenrik: hrm, you can see that i think your chmod also didn't actually work (o+rwx)
[23:12] <andinoh> Which command patches kernel security holes..apt get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade?
[23:13] <hanshenrik>  nacc seems so. annoying that chmod didnt say anything (and yes i was reading stderr too)
[23:13] <usr13> dist-upgrade will find new kernel if there is one.
[23:13] <nacc> hanshenrik: yeah, is there a reason you've made your .ssh so permissive?
[23:13] <hanshenrik> cus now that i did it from root, i can access it from hanshenrik
[23:13] <hanshenrik> nacc, BECAUSE I COULDNT ACCESS IT. rest assured, i will fix it now
[23:14] <nacc> hanshenrik: ah sure
[23:14] <hanshenrik> chmod -R 0600 .ssh     right?
[23:14] <andinoh> usr13, thanks..
[23:14] <usr13> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:14] <nacc> hanshenrik: 600 for the directory, certainly; not sure of the default perms otherwise
[23:15] <Free99> stranger and stranger... memtest reports no errors, but it's obvious that my system crashes when I am running a memory-heavy program
[23:15] <usr13> andinoh: It's what I do for updates...
[23:15] <Free99> only changes I've made are to swappiness and using dphys-swapfile instead of regular swap
[23:15] <hippybear> hanshenrik, isnt it 644?
[23:15] <Tortillion> I have a Pentium M processor, will Libre Office be slow on my  Lubuntu laptop?
[23:15] <hippybear> nvm 600
[23:15] <hanshenrik> hippybear, pretty sure that would allow everyone to read my private keys ^^
[23:15] <andinoh> usr13: will do that..
[23:15] <hippybear> Free99, is it KDE?
[23:16] <nacc> Free99: system crashes or goes OOM? are you out of memory?
[23:16] <hanshenrik> hippybear, maybe 644 for my public key
[23:16] <hanshenrik> (allow the ssh server to read it?)
[23:16] <Free99> no xfce... program causing the crash is COMSOL multiphysics
[23:16] <hippybear> I had an issue with it killing my cpu
[23:17] <nacc> hanshenrik: my public is 644 here, true
[23:17] <nacc> Free99: what kind of crash?
[23:18] <leavd> Tortillion: think you should be ok
[23:18] <Free99> nacc, complete system freeze, no sysrq, no tty
[23:18] <nacc> Free99: are your disks spinning up trying to swap? do you have a serial console?
[23:18] <Tortillion> Leavd: Ok thank you for your help
[23:18] <hippybear> same with my KDE
[23:18] <Free99> nacc, SSD, no serial console
[23:19] <hippybear> loaded the splash screen to 50% then just sits there to eternity
[23:19] <nacc> Free99: it sounds like you're putting significant memory pressure on your system; not sure you should expect responsiveness
[23:19] <nacc> Free99: you could try netconsole, etc., to see if the kernel is still up
[23:20] <Free99> nacc, thing is when I rung "stress-ng --vm 2 --vm-bytes 4G --timeout 120s" the system stops responding, but never comes back
[23:20] <kicksled> Tortillion: but if you're having problems Abiword and Gnumeric should be even more lightweight and work better
[23:21] <Free99> nacc, I've got 8G ram, 2g swap
[23:21] <Tortillion> kicksled: Thank you,  I think LibreOffice is fast enough
[23:22] <hanshenrik> nacc, i do barely recall something about public key + ssh server + 0644 , i guess that's it ^^
[23:22] <nacc> Free99: right, so you've overcommitted your system -- i mean 8G of workload on a 10G system, so it's going to swap constantly, probably?
[23:22] <nacc> Free99: well, to be clear, 8G on a 8G system, with no room for the kernel overhead itself, which means it will swap constantly
[23:23] <Free99> nacc, sure there will be pressure, SSD though and I gave it 10 minutes to return... no traces of anything in logs, and I bumped the offending processes oom score adj up to 800
[23:24] <Free99> nacc, peep this: http://s11.postimg.org/uqfmpp1pv/crash.jpg
[23:24] <Free99> this never happened on 14.04
[23:27] <nacc> Free99: not really sure; without actually getting the crash output, it's hard to debug anything. The two top processes in that picture are using more RSS than htop says you have, though. So at some point, if you leave htop open, htop stops refreshing?
[23:28] <Free99_> sorry, did you say something?
[23:30] <nacc> Free99_: not really sure; without actually getting the crash output, it's hard to debug anything. The two top processes in that picture are using more RSS than htop says you have, though. So at some point, if you leave htop open, htop stops refreshing?
[23:31] <protn> folks I use diffmerge and it shows 2 dirs got same files yet when I start ftp dir 1 into dir 2 I get same file warning
[23:31] <protn> ...
[23:31] <Free99_> nacc yeah, the whole system stops... clock stops, everything
[23:31] <AndChat728121> Ben64 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxnU6N4VAZ5mWC0yZHJlS0R4MDQ/view?usp=drivesdk
[23:31] <protn> i selected show equivalent files in diffmerge
[23:31] <Free99_> but not even sysrq b works
[23:32] <protn> what I am missing
[23:32] <Ben64> AndChat728121: you don't have a free partition
[23:32] <nacc> Free99_: sounds like you would need a serial console to debug it further (or netconsole, maybe, but if the kernel is locking up that hard, the network stack may be dead)
[23:32] <skinux> Looking for a little help. I've borrowed a portable CD/DVD drive from a friend. It simply connects via USB (ofcourse), I have no software to install. I cannot get Ubuntu to see it at all. Is there some kind of driver I need to install?
[23:33] <Ben64> skinux: plug it in, pastebin the output of "dmesg | tail -n50"
[23:34] <Free99_> nacc, perhaps linux-crashdump?
[23:34] <AndChat728121> Yes Ben64, sda3 is C:/ and sda4 is D:/, on Windows. If I delete sda4, and then create an Ext4 partition, extended is not an option.
[23:34] <Ben64> AndChat728121: logical = extended
[23:35] <OerHeks> without gpt, extended with logical partitions would be your only option
[23:36] <nacc> Free99_: you could try and setup kdump, yeah
[23:36] <john[m]> Fjff
[23:36] <AndChat728121> When I delete sda4 and make it logical, I can't add any "child" partitions.
[23:36] <usr13> AndChat728121: Well, you would delete sda4 and creating the new partitions can be done with Ubuntu installer's partition manager.
[23:36] <usr13> AndChat728121: Why not?
[23:36] <AndChat728121> It is all created a a child of sda and named sda5, instead of sda4 like before.
[23:37] <AndChat728121> ... because the button is greyed out.
[23:37] <OerHeks> just leave the space blanc, let ubuntu do the partitioning
[23:37] <Ben64> AndChat728121: sda5 is in the extended partition
[23:38] <AndChat728121> Right. Now how do I create a home partition and a swap and one for Ubuntu?
[23:38] <Ben64> create more than one partition
[23:38] <AndChat728121> It won't let me create more than 4
[23:38] <AndChat728121> I can't!
[23:38] <Ben64> it will
[23:38] <AndChat728121> It's greyed out.
[23:39] <Ben64> you're doing it wrong
[23:39] <AndChat728121> The plus.
[23:39] <AndChat728121> Right. Helpful.
[23:39] <Ben64> start up the live system, open gparted and do it there
[23:40] <AndChat728121> Maybe it's because I enabled encryption and LVM. I'll try without, I guess.
[23:41] <usr13> AndChat728121: Yea, as Ben64 points out, the extended partition contains the logical ones.  If you designated hda4 as extended, you should be able to create sda5 sda6 and sda7
[23:43] <tgm4883> Does the RX480 work on 16.04 at all or do I need to upgrade to 16.10? I thought I read that it works on 16.04 now?
[23:43] <AndChat728121> Here's what I did. Select sda4. Click minus. Select free space. Click plus. Select logical. Select beginning of this space. Use as Ext4. Mount point none, because it will be the sub-partitions that have mount points, no?
[23:43] <Ben64> AndChat728121: no
[23:43] <usr13> (I said hda4 but I meant sda4)
[23:43] <Tortillion> I also have another question if you don't mind me asking: Does Lubuntu have less functionality than Ubuntu, and will Ubuntu run slower than Lubuntu on my Pentium M computer?
[23:44] <Guest50913> newbee...lol
[23:44] <Ben64> Tortillion: no and yes
[23:44] <usr13> AndChat728121: You need to delete sda4, re-create it as an extended partition, and then you can create sda5 sda6 and sda7 for / and /home and swap
[23:45] <Tortillion> So everything I can do in Ubuntu I can do in Lubuntu? So theres no point in using Ubuntu right.
[23:45] <rocket__> whats lubuntu?
[23:45] <nacc> !lubuntu | rocket__
[23:45] <AndChat728121> That's what I thought I did. Logical is extended, no? There is no "extended".
[23:45] <OerHeks> Jan 28, 2015 - The vast majority of Pentium M and Celeron M CPUs are suitable for fakepae or forcepae and can work with PAE kernels. But some of these ...
[23:46] <Tortillion> I can forcepae and it worked
[23:46] <Ben64> AndChat728121: sda4 is the extended one
[23:46] <nacc> Tortillion: lubuntu is ubuntu -- you're just using a different DE
[23:46] <AndChat728121> I was told to delete sda4. It was NTFS (D:/).
[23:46] <hippybear> man OerHeks I have seen your name in here since I first started using ubuntu
[23:46] <Tortillion> Oh right
[23:46] <Tortillion> Thanks
[23:47] <usr13> AndChat728121: Logical partitions are the ones inside of the Extended partition.  You have primary, extended and logical.
[23:47] <Ben64> AndChat728121: yep, then you make it into an extended partition
[23:47] <nacc> quit
[23:47] <hippybear> nou
[23:47] <usr13> AndChat728121: Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/PartitioningBasics
[23:47] <AndChat728121> There is no "extended". So logical, right? Which is what I did.
[23:47] <Ben64> AndChat728121: if you have sda5, then sda4 is the extended partition
[23:48] <usr13> AndChat728121: You need to decide how many linux partitions you want.  Minimum is 2 for / and swap, sda5 and sda6
[23:49] <usr13> AndChat728121: One large one and one small one, (the size of RAM).
[23:49] <usr13> AndChat728121: sda4 - extemded    sda5 - logical    sda6 - logical
[23:49] <AndChat728121> I'll take a look but it's literally size, type, location, use as, mount point. Would take seconds to list the correct options and will take me presumably longer to figure it out. I've been fighting computer /all day/. Excuse the crankiness.
[23:50] <AndChat728121> I can't add anything after sda4.
[23:50] <Ben64> AndChat728121: presumably because you took up all the space with sda5
[23:50] <usr13> AndChat728121: Sometimes it takes a while for the concept to sink in.
[23:51] <Free99_> nacc, I got the system to come back from death
[23:51] <usr13> AndChat728121: How much free space do you have?  (Size of sda4)...
[23:51] <Bashing-om> Tortillion: Have you seen : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE/PentiumM ?
[23:51] <usr13> AndChat728121: How much RAM do you have?
[23:51] <AndChat728121> Oh. I misunderstood then. I figured I'd create an extended partition that uses all the space and then be able to split that into three.
[23:52] <AndChat728121> I am not good with partition.
[23:52] <nacc> Free99_: pastebin dmesg?
[23:52] <usr13> AndChat728121: Correct.
[23:52] <nacc> Free99_: and how? :)
[23:52] <OerHeks> just leave the space blanc, let ubuntu do the partitioning
[23:52] <usr13> AndChat728121: How much free space do you have?
[23:52] <AndChat728121> It complains about that.
[23:52] <AndChat728121> 493882 MB
[23:52] <Free99_> so I had to re-enable sysrq, it is apparently disabled beyond increasing log levels (see /etc/sysctl.d/10-magic-sysrq.conf) and then I kept leaning on alt-sysrq-f and it took a few minutes but the system reappeared
[23:53] <usr13> AndChat728121: And how much RAM?
[23:53] <AndChat728121> I was thinking 8 GB swap and splitting the rest between home and the install?
[23:53] <nacc> Free99_: yes, magic sysrq is disabled (you can also change it with a kernel command parameter, iirc)?
[23:53] <AndChat728121> 4 but will upgrade to 8 or 16 soon.
[23:54] <usr13> AndChat728121: So make sda5 8G and designate as swap.  Make sda6 to occupy the rest of the free space you have.
[23:55] <usr13> AndChat728121: or make sda5 16G and designate as swap.  Make sda6 to occupy the rest of the free space
[23:55] <tgm4883> Using 16.04.1, trying to upgrade from a GTX 760 (prop drivers) to an RX 480 (amdgpu driver) but upon rebooting amdgpu isn't getting loaded and I'm stuck at 1024x768
[23:56] <veter> Hello, how to make that my second HDD in laptop mount with more simple name? http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1477526097.png
[23:56] <Ben64> !fstab | veter
[23:56] <usr13> veter: Create a fstab entry for it.
[23:57] <AndChat728121> Is there any advantage to having a partition for /home and another for /?
[23:57] <usr13> AndChat728121: Yes.  If you re-install and you have separate /home partition, it can be left as is during install.
[23:57] <AndChat728121> Thanks for your patience. Mine ran out about eight hours ago.
[23:57] <Free99_> nacc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386071/
[23:57] <Bashing-om> tgm4883: You did remove the old nVidia driver ?
[23:57] <AndChat728121> Okay, cool
[23:58] <Free99_> and to change sysrq, just sysctl -w kernel.sysrq=1
[23:58] <tgm4883> Bashing-om: yep, old nvidia is removed and purged
[23:58] <usr13> AndChat728121: If you have separate /home partition, make it the biggest.  Like 100G for / and 8G for swap and the rest for /home
[23:58] <Free99_> this is territory I'm unfamiliar with, rsize and such
[23:59] <tgm4883> Bashing-om: I can modprobe the amdgpu driver, but restarting lightdm doesn't show any better resolution in the display manager